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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can you name any time magazine Person of the Year
since two thousand Donald Trump? Good it, he's won twice,
twenty twenty four and twenty sixteen, the two years he
was elected.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I know the one this year.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I don't. I don't don't say this year. No, I know.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was just hinting at it. Obama Obama? Was he
on there?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Two thousand and eight, yes, sir? Okay, twenty twelve, the
two years that he was elected.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, they like to go presidents. Good hint yep, George W. Bush.
He's got to be on there, right.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
George W. Bush. He was two thousand and two thousand
and four, exactly the years in which he was elected.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So yeah, Wow, wasn't Mark Zuckerberg also on there?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Mark Zuckerberg? Mark Zuckerberg twenty ten? Mark Zuckerberg?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey, we're rolling right now, We're rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You got to keep going, dude, Like dang.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
The Pope was was that everone?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Pope Francis twenty thirteen? What is wrong with you? What's happening?
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And then that's it? I think, come on, that's only
one more, give me one more?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You got it. There's a couple here that are obvious
you missed. The president.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Was Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, there you go. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris both
were Persons of the Year.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
What about Elon Musk twenty twenty one?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Elon Musk?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, oh, I think I think I've depleted my my stores.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah that's good, well done. That might be the best
pop quizzy you've ever you've ever had here, Uh okay,
I'm just gonna run through these because it's not like
I don't find it to be. Yes, it's incredibly subjective,
and yes, you may be like, oh, eye roll, but
I do think that the list generally is kind of
an interesting snapshot as to what happened and what was
(02:02):
important in that year, right, And this is why every
single presidential election since two thousand, the person who won
that presidential election has been the Time Person of the
Year every single time. So it's a snapshot two thousand
and one, what happened in two thousand and one. I
know you weren't alive yet, but like two thousand and one,
(02:24):
come on, hm, not a good thing? Not thing?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
No, I oh oh. The only thing that I can
think of is nine.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It is, and you know who was the person of
the Year Mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani. It's
a snapshot, is to like, the biggest thing that happened
that year right now? Two thousand and two is an
interesting one. The whistleblowers, people who uncovered different financial Cynthia
(02:56):
Cooper who exposed a fraud at WorldCom, Sharon Watkins who
uncovered accounting irregularities at RUN. People like that. The American
soldier in two thousand and three. Guess what happened in
two thousand and three we went into Iraq? Two thousand
(03:16):
and four was Bush two thousand and five the Good Samaritans,
which were represented by Bono, Bill Gates and Melinda Gates
for their philanthropy and the organization of the Live eight concerts.
Come on now. Two thousand and six, this was a
dumb one. You me, you were the You were the
(03:40):
Person of the Year in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Man at four years old. My parents must have been
doing everything right.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I mean they pushed, They definitely pushed for the campaign
for Peyton Hilock to be the Person of the Year
in two thousand and six. No, the way that they
described this was individual content to create on the world
wide web. This was like the dawn of MySpace and YouTube,
kind of really taking over the world. That's a cool one,
(04:10):
I guess. Two thousand and seven. Vladimir Putin was the
Person of the Air in two thousand and seven, and
it was because of his yeah, I don't know. I
guess just the general power that he was starting to
exhibit as President of Russia because he had been President
of Russia for a while at that point. Oh, wait,
(04:31):
was Barack Obama. Nine was Ben Bernikey, who was the
Chairman of the Federal Reserve, And that was during the
financial crisis in Great Recession in two thousand and eight.
Person of the Air. I'm not sure he would have
called it that, but congrats. He got his face on
a issue of Time magazine. Zuckerberg in twenty ten, twenty eleven,
(04:52):
it was the protester man. I feel like that could
have been twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five too.
The protester Thus protests across the world, including the Occupy movement,
and remember all those Occupy movements, you'd have been pretty young.
But yeah, jeez, Obama in twelve, Pope Francis in thirteen.
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Ebola fighters were the Persons of the Year in twenty fourteen,
doctors and nurses who were fighting the Ebola virus epidemic
in Africa. Angela Merkele, who was the Chancellor of Germany
twenty fifteen, was Person of the Year, recognized for her
leadership in the Greek debt crisis and European migrant crisis.
(05:32):
I wonder ten years later how they would describe what's
going on in Europe now. Trump in twenty sixteen, the
Me too silence breakers in twenty seventeen, Dang, remember that.
Remember when the me too thing happens. Just realize how
many really bad people are out there in the famous
world carve. Yes, yeah, there you go. Twenty eighteen, the Guardians,
(05:55):
which are essentially journalists who faced persecution, arrests, or murder
for their reporting, and that was there was a highlighting
of several different people and Washington Post columnist Jamal Kashogi,
who came back into the news here recently after Donald
Trump welcomed the Saudi Crown Prince to the White House,
(06:18):
and he believed that the criticism of Kuskogi Koshogi was
what got him murdered, and that was well documented in
twenty eighteen, among others. Credit Thorn Dunenberg, remember her credit Dunenberg.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, the climate activist.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
How dag you?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
How dag you?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
She's the kind of person that, Yeah, I mean I
feel like that's that's what this should be for. Yeah,
it's a snapshot of who the person of the Year
is based on, you know, Like and she she's like
an underrated one, I think, because I definitely think that
she was like the way that she went viral for
that and in trying to be an activist. Now I
(07:00):
think she's cuckoo for Coca puffs also, and I really
think that she's you know, she's always trying to have
something to fight for. You know, she does the three
Palatine things. She was like arrested on a boat a
couple of times in the sea Miniterranean off the coast
of Israel, and you're just kind of like, Greta's going
(07:20):
to be one of those people that just has to
have something to fight against her entire life. And that's fine,
the life of a protest or life of agen z Er.
I don't, but I do think that she the way
that she speaks, the way that she is able to
articulate what she thinks, the world needs to be. I
don't think that that's worth overlooking if we even if
we disagree with the way that she's living her life.
(07:42):
She I mean, it's pretty remarkable what she achieved at
just fifteen years old when she did that speech that
had her worldwide famous. Biden and Kamala were the twenty
twenty Persons of the Year Elon and twenty one. Twenty
twenty two, what happened? The invasion of Ukraine, The Russo
Ukrainian War began, and Volodimir z Alynsky in the Spirit
of Ukraine, that was the person of the year. Taylor
(08:05):
Swift in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
How did I not get that one?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't know. I was waiting for you to say her,
but you never did. She's officially got two because she
was among those in the Me Too silence breakers in
twenty seventeen, so that was the second time she was
technically listed. But twenty twenty three, Yeah, the Giant Tour,
remember the tour.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The Era's Tour. Yes, Yeah, that was pretty epic, and.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's that's what I got her the person that year
in twenty three, Trumpet twenty four and twenty twenty five
the person of the year, the architects, the architects of AI,
the architects behind the rapid development of artificial intelligence technology
and the AI boom. And I think in twenty twenty five,
(08:51):
I think more people are aware of what AI is
and what AI is doing for us, and there are
more fears of it. There are more people who are
using it in diffferent ways. It has become more and
more prevalent in all of our lives, and I think
we're all aware of it now. I think this is
a really good one for twenty twenty five. Eight different
people were featured in the story in the issue of
(09:15):
Time magazine. Sam Altman of Open Ai, which you know,
that's your chat GPT. Dario Amodey, who is the CEO
of Anthropic, Demis Hasabis, who I'm not super sure how
to say that name, but CEO of deep Mind the
Google so Google and what they're working on. Jensen Huang,
(09:37):
who's the CEO of Navidia, which we know. I mean
everybody's looking at, especially them in the way that they
were trading this year as we were battling with the
stock markets in the first half of the year. After
the Liberation Day on tariffs. Fai fe Lee, known for
establishing ImageNet Elon Musk of course, CEO of x AI.
(09:57):
We know their model groc this will the one that
many people are utilizing. Lisa Sue, CEO of AMD, and
then Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta Platforms. Those are the
people who are the persons of the year. What do
you think?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I mean, like just what would be okay, So let's
think over the break about who could have been the
person of the Year in twenty twenty five instead, because
they didn't really give us any alternatives. Sometimes they'll have like,
all right, who's are gonna be? And there's like five
or six pictures of somebody like in the week leading up,
and then they pick one. They didn't do that this year,
so I guess it's up to us when we come back.
You give me a good alternative, and I'll give you
(10:38):
an alternative. Payton comes with a very different perspective on
the world fresh graduate of college, and I'm always curious
to see how he feels about certain things and what
he thinks about certain things, especially when we do like
Friday fours and things of that nature. And I was
talking about the time person of the Year, and I
guess it's persons of the Year this year, the architects
of AI and you know it includes people like Elon
(11:00):
Muskmark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, et cetera, and uh Peyton. Your
reaction was kind of whatever, and okay, so I asked
you if you could come up with somebody who might
be better. So what you got for me?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You know, over the break, I thought, it's so tough.
It's to be fair. It probably is justified them. I mean,
I think it's justified, but it's not certainly not the
only answer.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I just feel like in the last year AI has
been such a cop out for everything and maybe that
I mean that that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, you're you're not wrong. That's it has been
very well.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The reason why they are person of the Year quote
unquote people of the year. What about like uh Nico
Harrison for putting the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Come on, you know, I mean you're kidding, we got it. Yeah.
I Mean That's the thing though, is like, depending on
what you like, what you care about, and what realm
is like, you're gonna like, what are the biggest moments
of the year, right? And I always do this at
the end of a year. I'm like, Okay, so what
were the stories of the year. What were the stories
that I loved or I paid closest int to or
(12:14):
just completely had me enthralled in in the year. And
a lot of the stuff that I pay attention to,
you know, sports, music, movies, pop culture, politics. You know,
I'm gonna find a way to try to have pretty
equal representation of all that. But I gotta be quite
frank with you, I'm not one hundred percent sure that
(12:35):
you can tell the story of twenty twenty five without
artificial intelligence. Yeah, you're right now, but so much happened
politically and so much happened internationally that I'm not one
hundred percent sure that. And I know Trump won it
last year, and I know they always give it to
like a person who wins the presidency. Would we go
(12:58):
with could could you go with somebody that we you
call him the person of the year, But it's not
like an a war, It's like an acknowledgment of how
important this individual was. Yeah, because like that, then you
could go to the Benjamin Nett Yahoo's or you could
go to Vladimir Putin again, you could go to maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Zelensky would be on there again too, probably, but as
far as.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know, just like his interactions with Trump at the
White House, I mean it's pretty crazy. Could you go
something like Pope Leo the fourteenth because he's the first
American pope? Now, I know that he hasn't been a
part of like a ton of different things unless you're, like,
are a Chicago White Sox or Chicago Bears fan, and
you know the references to the pope that are made
(13:45):
by fans in the fan base. But I mean that's
not nothing. That is a pretty substantial thing that happened
in twenty twenty five that Pope Leo the fourteenth became
the first American born pope. It's a guy from the
South side of Chicago. Could you make that argument even
if he didn't actually do a lot of things of impact,
(14:07):
just the fact that he was chosen as the next pope? Right? Yeah?
Could you go with another entertainer, I mean, is Taylor Swift?
I mean, she's she. I don't know if you'd go
Taylor Swift two out of three years, but you could
maybe make the argument that like a Sabrina Carpenter could
could be like I know, they named the Entertainer of
(14:29):
the Year was Leonardo DiCaprio, which is interesting. I feel
like Leonardo DiCaprio's had five or six years as big
as this year. I don't I don't think. I don't
think he would qualify as like the person of the Year.
I was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I was thinking shoheo Tani.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now, see if you're talking about sports and roping that in,
I don't know if there's been a more influential player
in baseball or in American sports on a worldwide scale
since Jordan maybe. And I say this, and I know
that's laughable, right because Lebron, James, Kobe Brighten, all that stuff.
They have made big impacts and they've had fans overseas.
(15:09):
But with shohe Otani, especially the last two years since
he's been on the Dodgers and been playing in the playoffs,
and you can even go back to twenty twenty three
in the World Baseball Classic when he was representing Japan,
how good he is as a hitter and pitcher, as
good as he is all the time, pretty much like
the guy doesn't seem to have like a full slump.
Sometimes he doesn't have great games, but the guy's pretty unbelievable,
(15:34):
and he has single handedly individually brought in an entire
Japanese audience to watch American baseball and American culture. He
has basically been kind of There's been plenty of Japanese
players that have come from Japan to play baseball in
the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He also had such a historic year. I mean he
literally is incomparable, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah on the pitching and hitting front. Yeah, he runs
the bases, he he's he hits for power, he hits
a ton of home runs. He's always gonna win MVP
if he can just stay healthy for the rest of
his career. Probably we don't see guys like this do
what he does, but also have the kind of star
power that he is bringing in other people from all
over the world to watch our game. On an international level.
(16:22):
This World Series between Toronto and the Dodgers this year
is gonna bust every single worldwide record for years because
of the Canadian aspect and all of Canada wanting to
watch that World Series and the fact that people in
Japan want to see show Hey and the other Japanese
players that joined him on the Dodgers. I don't I
(16:43):
think Shoe hee O Tani had to have been on
a shortlist if we made a legitimate shortlist, He's got
to be on there, along with net and Yahoo and
Putin and I think the Pope. And then obviously we
could go with you know, Donald Trump and people in
American politics too, could Jowon Mom, Donnie have gotten onto
the table just based solely on his rise. I know
he hasn't actually done anything but be elected, but you know,
(17:07):
his impact on twenty twenty five I think has been
pretty substantial on a political front.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I asked my AI speaking of AI shout out,
and I just said, like a quick short list of candidates,
and it said pop Leo, Donald Trump, Netanyahu, Zorn, Mom, Donnie. Oh,
and it put Charlie Kirk on there as well.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That was my AI.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I just asked it, you know, five people that could
have been candidates, and that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Charlie Kirk is a good one. Wow, that's a good one.
I cannot believe I didn't think of that, because that
was a hug. I mean, you want to talk about
a huge moment in a sad moment for sure, but
a huge moment in American history. It's going to be
in textbooks the future of political discourse has been completely
altered in a way. Maybe not permanently yet, but the
(17:56):
effects and the ripple effects of that event are going
to be felt in America for years. And I know,
like I think, we all would rather Charlie Kirk be here,
but the impact of him as an individual has only
grown after his assassination. So I think, I mean, that's
(18:20):
a great one. Whatever, what are we calling your AI THEO.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
THEO And that's Sam Altman's open AI chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well THEO did good there. That's a good one. Congratulations
to him. That Wow, that's a that's a good that's
a good finished to that list.
Can you name any time magazine Person of the Year
since two thousand Donald Trump? Good it, he's won twice,
twenty twenty four and twenty sixteen, the two years he
was elected.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I know the one this year.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I don't. I don't don't say this year. No, I know.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was just hinting at it. Obama Obama? Was he
on there?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Two thousand and eight, yes, sir? Okay, twenty twelve, the
two years that he was elected.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, they like to go presidents. Good hint yep, George W. Bush.
He's got to be on there, right.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
George W. Bush. He was two thousand and two thousand
and four, exactly the years in which he was elected.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So yeah, Wow, wasn't Mark Zuckerberg also on there?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Mark Zuckerberg? Mark Zuckerberg twenty ten? Mark Zuckerberg?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hey, we're rolling right now, We're rolling.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
You got to keep going, dude, Like dang.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
The Pope was was that everone?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Pope Francis twenty thirteen? What is wrong with you? What's happening?
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And then that's it? I think, come on, that's only
one more, give me one more?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You got it. There's a couple here that are obvious
you missed. The president.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Was Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, there you go. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris both
were Persons of the Year.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
What about Elon Musk twenty twenty one?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Elon Musk?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, oh, I think I think I've depleted my my stores.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah that's good, well done. That might be the best
pop quizzy you've ever you've ever had here, Uh okay,
I'm just gonna run through these because it's not like
I don't find it to be. Yes, it's incredibly subjective,
and yes, you may be like, oh, eye roll, but
I do think that the list generally is kind of
an interesting snapshot as to what happened and what was
(02:02):
important in that year, right, And this is why every
single presidential election since two thousand, the person who won
that presidential election has been the Time Person of the
Year every single time. So it's a snapshot two thousand
and one, what happened in two thousand and one. I
know you weren't alive yet, but like two thousand and one,
(02:24):
come on, hm, not a good thing? Not thing?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
No, I oh oh. The only thing that I can
think of is nine.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It is, and you know who was the person of
the Year Mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani. It's
a snapshot, is to like, the biggest thing that happened
that year right now? Two thousand and two is an
interesting one. The whistleblowers, people who uncovered different financial Cynthia
(02:56):
Cooper who exposed a fraud at WorldCom, Sharon Watkins who
uncovered accounting irregularities at RUN. People like that. The American
soldier in two thousand and three. Guess what happened in
two thousand and three we went into Iraq? Two thousand
(03:16):
and four was Bush two thousand and five the Good Samaritans,
which were represented by Bono, Bill Gates and Melinda Gates
for their philanthropy and the organization of the Live eight concerts.
Come on now. Two thousand and six, this was a
dumb one. You me, you were the You were the
(03:40):
Person of the Year in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Man at four years old. My parents must have been
doing everything right.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I mean they pushed, They definitely pushed for the campaign
for Peyton Hilock to be the Person of the Year
in two thousand and six. No, the way that they
described this was individual content to create on the world
wide web. This was like the dawn of MySpace and YouTube,
kind of really taking over the world. That's a cool one,
(04:10):
I guess. Two thousand and seven. Vladimir Putin was the
Person of the Air in two thousand and seven, and
it was because of his yeah, I don't know. I
guess just the general power that he was starting to
exhibit as President of Russia because he had been President
of Russia for a while at that point. Oh, wait,
(04:31):
was Barack Obama. Nine was Ben Bernikey, who was the
Chairman of the Federal Reserve, And that was during the
financial crisis in Great Recession in two thousand and eight.
Person of the Air. I'm not sure he would have
called it that, but congrats. He got his face on
a issue of Time magazine. Zuckerberg in twenty ten, twenty eleven,
(04:52):
it was the protester man. I feel like that could
have been twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five too.
The protester Thus protests across the world, including the Occupy movement,
and remember all those Occupy movements, you'd have been pretty young.
But yeah, jeez, Obama in twelve, Pope Francis in thirteen.
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Ebola fighters were the Persons of the Year in twenty fourteen,
doctors and nurses who were fighting the Ebola virus epidemic
in Africa. Angela Merkele, who was the Chancellor of Germany
twenty fifteen, was Person of the Year, recognized for her
leadership in the Greek debt crisis and European migrant crisis.
(05:32):
I wonder ten years later how they would describe what's
going on in Europe now. Trump in twenty sixteen, the
Me too silence breakers in twenty seventeen, Dang, remember that.
Remember when the me too thing happens. Just realize how
many really bad people are out there in the famous
world carve. Yes, yeah, there you go. Twenty eighteen, the Guardians,
(05:55):
which are essentially journalists who faced persecution, arrests, or murder
for their reporting, and that was there was a highlighting
of several different people and Washington Post columnist Jamal Kashogi,
who came back into the news here recently after Donald
Trump welcomed the Saudi Crown Prince to the White House,
(06:18):
and he believed that the criticism of Kuskogi Koshogi was
what got him murdered, and that was well documented in
twenty eighteen, among others. Credit Thorn Dunenberg, remember her credit Dunenberg.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, the climate activist.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
How dag you?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
How dag you?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
She's the kind of person that, Yeah, I mean I
feel like that's that's what this should be for. Yeah,
it's a snapshot of who the person of the Year
is based on, you know, Like and she she's like
an underrated one, I think, because I definitely think that
she was like the way that she went viral for
that and in trying to be an activist. Now I
(07:00):
think she's cuckoo for Coca puffs also, and I really
think that she's you know, she's always trying to have
something to fight for. You know, she does the three
Palatine things. She was like arrested on a boat a
couple of times in the sea Miniterranean off the coast
of Israel, and you're just kind of like, Greta's going
(07:20):
to be one of those people that just has to
have something to fight against her entire life. And that's fine,
the life of a protest or life of agen z Er.
I don't, but I do think that she the way
that she speaks, the way that she is able to
articulate what she thinks, the world needs to be. I
don't think that that's worth overlooking if we even if
we disagree with the way that she's living her life.
(07:42):
She I mean, it's pretty remarkable what she achieved at
just fifteen years old when she did that speech that
had her worldwide famous. Biden and Kamala were the twenty
twenty Persons of the Year Elon and twenty one. Twenty
twenty two, what happened? The invasion of Ukraine, The Russo
Ukrainian War began, and Volodimir z Alynsky in the Spirit
of Ukraine, that was the person of the year. Taylor
(08:05):
Swift in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
How did I not get that one?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't know. I was waiting for you to say her,
but you never did. She's officially got two because she
was among those in the Me Too silence breakers in
twenty seventeen, so that was the second time she was
technically listed. But twenty twenty three, Yeah, the Giant Tour,
remember the tour.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The Era's Tour. Yes, Yeah, that was pretty epic, and.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's that's what I got her the person that year
in twenty three, Trumpet twenty four and twenty twenty five
the person of the year, the architects, the architects of AI,
the architects behind the rapid development of artificial intelligence technology
and the AI boom. And I think in twenty twenty five,
(08:51):
I think more people are aware of what AI is
and what AI is doing for us, and there are
more fears of it. There are more people who are
using it in diffferent ways. It has become more and
more prevalent in all of our lives, and I think
we're all aware of it now. I think this is
a really good one for twenty twenty five. Eight different
people were featured in the story in the issue of
(09:15):
Time magazine. Sam Altman of Open Ai, which you know,
that's your chat GPT. Dario Amodey, who is the CEO
of Anthropic, Demis Hasabis, who I'm not super sure how
to say that name, but CEO of deep Mind the
Google so Google and what they're working on. Jensen Huang,
(09:37):
who's the CEO of Navidia, which we know. I mean
everybody's looking at, especially them in the way that they
were trading this year as we were battling with the
stock markets in the first half of the year. After
the Liberation Day on tariffs. Fai fe Lee, known for
establishing ImageNet Elon Musk of course, CEO of x AI.
(09:57):
We know their model groc this will the one that
many people are utilizing. Lisa Sue, CEO of AMD, and
then Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta Platforms. Those are the
people who are the persons of the year. What do
you think?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I mean, like just what would be okay, So let's
think over the break about who could have been the
person of the Year in twenty twenty five instead, because
they didn't really give us any alternatives. Sometimes they'll have like,
all right, who's are gonna be? And there's like five
or six pictures of somebody like in the week leading up,
and then they pick one. They didn't do that this year,
so I guess it's up to us when we come back.
You give me a good alternative, and I'll give you
(10:38):
an alternative. Payton comes with a very different perspective on
the world fresh graduate of college, and I'm always curious
to see how he feels about certain things and what
he thinks about certain things, especially when we do like
Friday fours and things of that nature. And I was
talking about the time person of the Year, and I
guess it's persons of the Year this year, the architects
of AI and you know it includes people like Elon
(11:00):
Muskmark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, et cetera, and uh Peyton. Your
reaction was kind of whatever, and okay, so I asked
you if you could come up with somebody who might
be better. So what you got for me?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
You know, over the break, I thought, it's so tough.
It's to be fair. It probably is justified them. I mean,
I think it's justified, but it's not certainly not the
only answer.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I just feel like in the last year AI has
been such a cop out for everything and maybe that
I mean that that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I mean, you're you're not wrong. That's it has been
very well.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The reason why they are person of the Year quote
unquote people of the year. What about like uh Nico
Harrison for putting the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Come on, you know, I mean you're kidding, we got it. Yeah.
I Mean That's the thing though, is like, depending on
what you like, what you care about, and what realm
is like, you're gonna like, what are the biggest moments
of the year, right? And I always do this at
the end of a year. I'm like, Okay, so what
were the stories of the year. What were the stories
that I loved or I paid closest int to or
(12:14):
just completely had me enthralled in in the year. And
a lot of the stuff that I pay attention to,
you know, sports, music, movies, pop culture, politics. You know,
I'm gonna find a way to try to have pretty
equal representation of all that. But I gotta be quite
frank with you, I'm not one hundred percent sure that
(12:35):
you can tell the story of twenty twenty five without
artificial intelligence. Yeah, you're right now, but so much happened
politically and so much happened internationally that I'm not one
hundred percent sure that. And I know Trump won it
last year, and I know they always give it to
like a person who wins the presidency. Would we go
(12:58):
with could could you go with somebody that we you
call him the person of the year, But it's not
like an a war, It's like an acknowledgment of how
important this individual was. Yeah, because like that, then you
could go to the Benjamin Nett Yahoo's or you could
go to Vladimir Putin again, you could go to maybe.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Zelensky would be on there again too, probably, but as
far as.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You know, just like his interactions with Trump at the
White House, I mean it's pretty crazy. Could you go
something like Pope Leo the fourteenth because he's the first
American pope? Now, I know that he hasn't been a
part of like a ton of different things unless you're, like,
are a Chicago White Sox or Chicago Bears fan, and
you know the references to the pope that are made
(13:45):
by fans in the fan base. But I mean that's
not nothing. That is a pretty substantial thing that happened
in twenty twenty five that Pope Leo the fourteenth became
the first American born pope. It's a guy from the
South side of Chicago. Could you make that argument even
if he didn't actually do a lot of things of impact,
(14:07):
just the fact that he was chosen as the next pope? Right? Yeah?
Could you go with another entertainer, I mean, is Taylor Swift?
I mean, she's she. I don't know if you'd go
Taylor Swift two out of three years, but you could
maybe make the argument that like a Sabrina Carpenter could
could be like I know, they named the Entertainer of
(14:29):
the Year was Leonardo DiCaprio, which is interesting. I feel
like Leonardo DiCaprio's had five or six years as big
as this year. I don't I don't think. I don't
think he would qualify as like the person of the Year.
I was.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I was thinking shoheo Tani.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now, see if you're talking about sports and roping that in,
I don't know if there's been a more influential player
in baseball or in American sports on a worldwide scale
since Jordan maybe. And I say this, and I know
that's laughable, right because Lebron, James, Kobe Brighten, all that stuff.
They have made big impacts and they've had fans overseas.
(15:09):
But with shohe Otani, especially the last two years since
he's been on the Dodgers and been playing in the playoffs,
and you can even go back to twenty twenty three
in the World Baseball Classic when he was representing Japan,
how good he is as a hitter and pitcher, as
good as he is all the time, pretty much like
the guy doesn't seem to have like a full slump.
Sometimes he doesn't have great games, but the guy's pretty unbelievable,
(15:34):
and he has single handedly individually brought in an entire
Japanese audience to watch American baseball and American culture. He
has basically been kind of There's been plenty of Japanese
players that have come from Japan to play baseball in
the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
He also had such a historic year. I mean he
literally is incomparable, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah on the pitching and hitting front. Yeah, he runs
the bases, he he's he hits for power, he hits
a ton of home runs. He's always gonna win MVP
if he can just stay healthy for the rest of
his career. Probably we don't see guys like this do
what he does, but also have the kind of star
power that he is bringing in other people from all
over the world to watch our game. On an international level.
(16:22):
This World Series between Toronto and the Dodgers this year
is gonna bust every single worldwide record for years because
of the Canadian aspect and all of Canada wanting to
watch that World Series and the fact that people in
Japan want to see show Hey and the other Japanese
players that joined him on the Dodgers. I don't I
(16:43):
think Shoe hee O Tani had to have been on
a shortlist if we made a legitimate shortlist, He's got
to be on there, along with net and Yahoo and
Putin and I think the Pope. And then obviously we
could go with you know, Donald Trump and people in
American politics too, could Jowon Mom, Donnie have gotten onto
the table just based solely on his rise. I know
he hasn't actually done anything but be elected, but you know,
(17:07):
his impact on twenty twenty five I think has been
pretty substantial on a political front.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I asked my AI speaking of AI shout out,
and I just said, like a quick short list of candidates,
and it said pop Leo, Donald Trump, Netanyahu, Zorn, Mom, Donnie. Oh,
and it put Charlie Kirk on there as well.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That was my AI.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I just asked it, you know, five people that could
have been candidates, and that.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Charlie Kirk is a good one. Wow, that's a good one.
I cannot believe I didn't think of that, because that
was a hug. I mean, you want to talk about
a huge moment in a sad moment for sure, but
a huge moment in American history. It's going to be
in textbooks the future of political discourse has been completely
altered in a way. Maybe not permanently yet, but the
(17:56):
effects and the ripple effects of that event are going
to be felt in America for years. And I know,
like I think, we all would rather Charlie Kirk be here,
but the impact of him as an individual has only
grown after his assassination. So I think, I mean, that's
(18:20):
a great one. Whatever, what are we calling your AI THEO.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
THEO And that's Sam Altman's open AI chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well THEO did good there. That's a good one. Congratulations
to him. That Wow, that's a that's a good that's
a good finished to that list.
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