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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got some audio here, a couple of different pieces
from the people who are high ranking officials in Kerr
County or Kerrville, which is the big the Kerrville is
the big city, the biggest city in Kerr County. The
first piece of audio is from Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice,
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and this is at a press conference this morning. The
idea of the question, and you won't hear it very well,
I don't think, but we'll play it for you here.
The big question is how was the warnings, not like like,
why weren't the warnings operational? Right? Not the fact that
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they didn't exist, because I already, like last hour, I
read through the entire timeline of the Homeland Security Department,
who went through and saw minute time stamps of what
the National Weather Service was saying as it relates to
a big weather event. Now, a lot of people who
want to act like they're scientists are going to say
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global warming cause this. They're gonna say that. You know,
there's gonna be people on the complete other side that
said there was no way to know how bad this
was gonna get. And maybe that's true, But there were warnings,
there were all right, And I was in Iowa. There
was a thing called the de Rachel. Did you guys
get that or did that develop after Omaha in twenty twenty.
I remember summer twenty twenty when there was like the
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bow echo thing and it like had straight line winds
over one hundred miles an hour or whatever. I feel
like maybe it was like right around here is when
it started. I don't recall.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I wasn't working in the weather department here at iHeart
at the time, so I don't have a recollection of
what that would have been like that summer.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Was there a lot of Is there a lot of
wind and like we're at Raindom August Day and that
like knocked onunch trees down? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Gotta be honest, I wasn't living in Omaha the summer
of twenty twenty, so I am not entirely sure.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Bad Gut asked. Neither was I. I was in Des Moines.
But there's this but it was a o echo kind
of like shape and it was a deracho. I never
heard the word de Raichel before. You know how many
hours we had to prepare for that as it developed
just a few I mean we really only had a
few hours to be prepared for that. The weather imagined
straight like remember think about like hurricane level winds, except
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for in Iowa, it made no sense. It was crazy.
I never seen anything like it. Nobody that as a
normal person, if you unless you're a meteorologist. Nobody in
Iowa had heard the term de rachel before. Yet here
comes this bow echo thing. I left work that morning.
I was working as a producer at iHeartRadio, and I
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did and part of my job was keeping kind of
track of weather and stuff. I went home, and you
know what ended up happening. I took a nap and
woke up from my nap to my power being off
and a tree in my front yard just down. I
looked in the backyard. There were branches everywhere. The wind
was blowing so hard, like I felt like the wall
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could cave in. I look back and I talked to
a meteorologist and they said, we kind of saw that
there could be in that major storm that morning. But
by the time this got to us, like ten thirty
eleven o'clock in the morning, like it was way worse
than anybody anticipated. Now this is in twenty twenty, mind too,
so this is this is like pandemic this is like
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there are people that are working, there's no concern over
like cuts or anything. And even the people who are
in meteorology who believe in the whole climate change thing
and how the United how we the people are affecting
the climate with our bad habits and stuff, even they
were like this was completely confounding, couldn't quite understand how
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this had happened. Well, there's like a solid twelve plus
hour window, especially in the afternoon and evening of the
day before on Thursday afternoon evening, and the I mean
the National Weather Service absolutely said that this area is
under like a flood watch in a flood warning, and
then the major warning hit at the like overnight, like
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right after midnight in the one am hours, and the
flooding really didn't start taking hold until after the four
am hour. So they were doing everything that they could
and people just weren't responding to the warnings. And also
there isn't a huge siren warning. And we've illustrated the
fact that Kerr County and their county commissioners and the
people of Kerr County just didn't want to have their
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tax money going into a brand new flood warning system.
Well maybe the Kerrville City Manager, Dalton Rice, could give
us a little bit of insight as to why maybe
the warnings weren't taken as seriously as maybe they should
have been taken.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
How cool you could have so.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Many campers to the weighing of this danger and not
taken out.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Of their pets.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, you know, that's that's the question of the hour.
But you know, with these this is last time it
was this bad, and this one is even worse than
that was nineteen eighty seven, and you can't predict it.
Everybody in the media even knows everybody who does this
and sees this every single day. You have the verse
effect of if you continue to push it, and you
see this in Houston areas all the time, you cry wolf.
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What happens when you continue to, you know, ramp things
up and you continue to put a lot of information
out there. You know, again, not to harp on the media,
but there's a lot of stuff that gets overspun up,
and we see that way too often, and then that
cut trickles down. So we did look at stuff. Obviously,
I had told the story I was out on the
River Trail acts, you know, three point thirty I left
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about four o'clock, we did not see any signs of
the river rising, and by five point twenty we almost
weren't able to get out of the park on the
upper end it rose that quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, okay, so let's blame the White House. Right, come on,
what are we talking about here now? The whole crying
wolf thing, wolf wolf, The whole crying wolf thing is
a I mean, if you live in a place as
a floodplain, right, and maybe Saddle Creek is this is
not going to be a great example, but it's going
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to be like at least an example maybe we can
relate to, so Saddle Creek it floods, like every time
that there's heavy rain, right multiple times a year. It's
just like, hey, you know, Omaha Scanner. Like no matter
what you follow on social media, like even us here,
when we sit here and do severe weather, it's like,
Souddle Creek, be on the lookout, don't go down there.
When you say that enough, people just kind of assume
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it's just like okay, yeah, it's whatever, and then we
you know, say, okay, it's really really serious this time,
Like if you're anywhere near Saddle Creek, do not go
down there. It's massively flooded and the water is like
way higher than usual. Do some people just kind of
like internally like okay, yeah, but like how bad could
it possibly be? Like we get warned about this stuff
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with some regularity. We always know that the Guadalupe River
is going to be able to flood potentially you know
Kerr County and Kerrville. Yeah, I mean, we know that
there's flooding that could exist, But come on, what are
we talking about here? Like We've been worn so many times.
And when you get warned and you get any at
worn and you have meteorologists are saying, you know, take shelter,
takes shelter, takes shelter, and then nothing happens. We've seen
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that people are like, why was I hiding in my basement?
I didn't even see or hear anything that took place outside.
And again we don't understand that some of this is
done for overt precaution. But as Dalton Rice said, it's
been since nineteen eighty seven then a major flood of
any kind happened in Kerr County. Now see that seems
like still pretty new on the mind to be thinking
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like this could never happen.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Again.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But when you have a once in a one hundred
year type flood event or rain event to kickstart a flood,
and the National Weather Service is doing their due diligence,
still warning everybody the exact same way, and people decide
not to take that seriously. Who's at fault there, right?
We didn't do enough in Kerr County or the surrounding
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counties to have a good enough weather system in place,
or warning system in place to really dictate how serious
this situation was until it was too late. There were
multiple hours people could have figured this stuff out. Now
I have audio from the Kirk County judge. His name's
Rob Kelly, and in the way that they do their hierarchy,
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this is the guy that's kind of the big cheese
in the county, the judge. You hear people in the
Southern states talk, Well, that's the judge, not just a judge,
he's like in charge, right. Well, Kirk County Judge Rob
Kelly was being grilled about this by another reporter about
how some of these camps in the area of Kirk
County were not being evacuated.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Judge, why work these camps evacuated yesterday? Texas is a
prom of Emergency Management put out a ball hall and
said there's going to be a problem. We knew that
there was going to be a problem. Why weren't these
camps evaluated? I can't answer that. I don't know. Well,
you're the judge. I mean, you're the tom official here
in this county. Why can't you answer that there are
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kids missing? These camps weren't harm's way. We knew this
flow was coming. We didn't know this luck was coming.
Rest assured, no one knew this kind of flood was coming.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
We have floods all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
This is the most dangerous river valley in the United States.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
So if that's the most dangerous river valley in the
United States and they have floods all the time, right,
I guess they're just so callous to it that they
just don't think it's ever going to get bad enough
to where people's lives actually could be in danger. Ladies
and gentlemen, I don't think we need to look very
far for who actually didn't do the right work, the
right job. We can say this is a tragic accident,
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but blaming the White House, blaming the National Weather Service,
blaming anybody related to Washington DC politics that includes people
like Ted Cruz and people who are representing these districts
in Texas. We're missing the plot here. There are local
people who have been elected and are put in charge
in Kirk County and Kerrville and all these other areas
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that didn't take this seriously enough, including the people that
are in these situations and decided I'm not going to
get out of the way.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, the.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Guadalupe River floods all the time. Okay, So why is
this a political conversation? This should be We have terrible
leadership in Kirk County, in Kerrville, Texas, and that should
be where this conversation should end. I got more where
that came from, coming up on news radio eleven ten
Kfab and Mari Sunger. I may seem fairly incredulous to
this whole thing, and I think rightly so. I By
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the way, I've gotten a couple of emails from people
that said they did experience the Deracho in the Omaha area.
So for those who are you know, yelling at two
guys who didn't live in Omaha about whether or not
in Omaha dealt with a de Rachel in twenty twenty,
apparently the answer is yes. Jason says we did have
the De Rachel in twenty twenty. Brian says his power
is off for a day. My power was off for
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about a day and a half. It was closer to
like three or four days actually, now that I'm thinking
about it, there were people without power for over a
week in the Seed of Rapids area in Eastern Island.
I think just got stronger and stronger. But I just liked,
I'll always equate kind of how natural disasters can like
jump up on us. Do you remember last April when
we were sitting here, Matt when that first big tornado
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date happened, and we knew the weather was like favorable,
but we didn't know that there was going to be
a huge tornado outbreak until tornadoes were like on the
ground in Lincoln, right, So it's not crazy to think
that some natural disasters can actually like take place. How
much I mean you get like fifteen minutes with a
tornado to like potentially get out of the way if
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there's a warning. If that, I mean, it's not that
much time when we see a tornado. That's like when
a tornado is spot or there's a tornado warning based
on really correct conditions, that's when the siren goes off.
So if you were like in the exact spot, and
I know, a tornado is a little bit different because
while it can ravage it an entire area, it's a
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smaller space, right, Like it's it's a smaller space than
like the length of a river when it floods. So
I'm aware of that, but I think, right that's just
an illustration that some natural disasters, it's really hard to
be able to tell you exactly what's going on out
there when it happens. We do the best that we can, right,
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I mean, we jump on here, we'll talk to people
and say, hey, we got some major issues taking place
for this, that or the other thing, and let you
know the best that we can. A couple of different
issues with this whole thing. Apparently they get flood warnings
all the time, and people just didn't take this one
seriously enough that this could be like way worse than
other floods that they have had in recent years in
the Kerk County area. And number two, they just didn't
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doesn't sound like they were paying attention overnight to their
weather alerts. I had David send me this note and said,
did you point out cell phones have the capability of
receiving weather alerts and warnings? National Weather Service sends alert
via this how many lives are lost because the function
was turned off? Does your phone my phone used to
do like the like I couldn't even override it, where
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like if there was an amber alert or there was
an EAS thing, like your phone would just like start
going off and like notify you. Now I still have notifications,
but I have turned off kind of like the hey
go crazy and like buzz and wake me up kind
of thing. But he makes a good point, like haven't
have we been so annoyed by the fact that our
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notifications or the weather app is trying to warn us
of this stuff to the point where we just disable it.
Could a camp counselor at Camp Mystic in the Kerr
County area if they would have had like their eas
or like a weather radio trigger on to let them
know how serious that the flooding situation would have been.
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Would that have given them a chance over the next
couple of hours to get everybody waken up and get
people to safety. I mean, we're never going to know
the answer to that question, but maybe this is a
call to all of us to take the weather forecast
from the National Weather Service a bit more seriously, and
maybe we shouldn't get so upset or angry when we have,
you know, a forecast for some pretty severe weather and
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then it feels like not a whole lot ends up happening.
Maybe it's best for us to always just be prepared
for the worse and not get upset that meteorologists or
people are saying, hey, we should really take it, you know,
very seriously, that this thing could end up happening. It's
a delicate balance. Much like the city manager of Kerville said,
we don't want people to think that we're crying wolf.
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It happens a lot to the point where people just
stop paying attention to the warnings altogether because they don't
feel like it really matters. We do it too much.
I don't know if there's a right way to do
this except for us, we the people, having to just
be more responsible and understand, Okay, if this warning is here,
maybe it's there for a reason. Maybe we should take
as much precaution as we're being told to, or maybe
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even more. It could save lives. It could save lives.
We'll talk more about this later on in the program.
Today three twenty eight, we got to get to the
Epstein story Holy Cow, and a challenger has emerged for
the GOP for the soon to be vacated Don Baconcy
in the second Congressional District. We'll talk about that coming
up also, and recap some of the stuff that we
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saw or did over the Independence Day week. All of
that and more on the way on news Radio eleven
ten Kfab and Marie soon