Trump and Mamdani break the ice at the White House

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it looks like we're they got a camera

(00:02):
in the White House. Donald Trump just starting to speak,
Zormam Donnie standing next to him in the Oval office.
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
One thing in common.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
We want this city of ours that we love to
do very well. And I wanted to congratulate the mayor.
He really ran an incredible race against a lot of
smart people, starting with the early primaries, against some very
tough people, very smart people, and he beat him, and
he beat him easily, and I congratulated him, and we

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talked about some things in very strong common, like housing
and getting housing built, and food and prices and the
price of oil is coming way down that anything I
do is going to be good for New York. If
I can get prices down, it's good for New York.
And we've got him down, way down from last year.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
We have, as you know, I've been saying to a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Walmart said that Thanksgiving this year is exactly twenty five
percent less than last year.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
So that's good for New New York, good for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
But I just want to congratulate. I think you're going
to have, hopefully a really great mayor. The better he
does the happier I am. I will say there's no
difference in party, there's no difference in anything, and we're
going to be helping him to make everybody's dream come
true having a strong and very safe New York.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
And congratulations mister Merri, Thank you, His President, thank you.
I appreciate it. Please.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I appreciated the meeting with the President, and as he said,
it was a productive meeting focused on a place of
shared admiration and love, which is New York City, and
the need to deliver affordability to New Yorkers, the eight
and a half million people who call our city their home,
who are struggling to afford life in the most expensive
city in the United States of America. We spoke about

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rant we spoke about groceries, we spoke about utilities, we
spoke about the different ways in which people are being
pushed out. And I appreciated the time with the President.
I appreciated the conversation. I look forward to working together
to deliver that affordability for new orders.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Any questions, Trump, Stephen, else is the New York Post.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I've got a question for you.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
And then also went for Themarrow Share for you, you've
heard Easter Antony's communists describe why you feel that way,
and also, will you do anything to stop him from
arresting a ministrument because.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
It's well, we didn't discuss to your second part of
big question, and on your first part. I mean, he's
got views and live out there, but who knows. I mean,
we're going to see what works or he's going to change.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Also, we all change.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I change a lot, change a lot from when I
first came to office. It's now quite a while ago.
It's quite a while. My first term was great. We
had the greatest economy in the history of our country.
We're doing even better now. We're doing much better now
than we did even the first term. And I can
tell you some of my views have changed, and we
had discussions on something. I'm going to discuss what they were,

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but that I feel very confident that he can do
a very good job. I think I think he's going
to be I think he is going to surprise conservative
people actually and to very liberal people who won't surprise
it because they already like him.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
And it.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
Sounds like you had a productive discussion, but just days
ago to President Trump is a desert.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
We trained the country, he said his worst. And you're
used in a country a basclist agenda?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Are you planning to retract it? In these remarks?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
In order to prove the relationship, I think both President
Trump and I we are very clear about our positions
and our views.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And what I really appreciate.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
About the President is the meeting that we had focused
not on places of disagreement, which there are many, and
also focused on the shared purpose that we have in
serving New Yorkers, and frankly, that is something that could
transform the lives of the eight and a half million
people who are currently struggling under a cost of living crisis,
with one in four living in poverty. And the meeting
came back again and again to what it could look

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like to lift those New Yorkers out of struggle and
start to deliver them a city that they could do
more than just struggle to afford it, but actually start
to live in it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And I've been called much worse than A as far,
so it's U. It's not that insulting.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Maybe he I think he'll change his mind after we
get to work it together.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, please, God, I am.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
I would like to ask you a question about the
deis regard here if you've the set that is not
any good position and Lebanon, now is this fine as
unresolved after Plata and see, given your an assessment, what
do you say for the race today?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Is the yeah?

Speaker 8 (04:29):
And what is your next move to push or disarmor
the design?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Sure, well, we are pushing for a total disarmament of
homos and frankly everybody else. And we actually have peace
in the Middle he says. You know, the King of
Sunny Arabi just left yesterday. We had some great meetings
and he's uh made a contribution toward the United States.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And more than a trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
We have now over twenty trillion dollars coming into No
country has ever had anything like that, not even close.
If you go to two trillion or one trillion, it's
a lot. We have to twenty one twention dollars. I
think that Hesbill has been a problem and Lebanon big problem.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
We're working with Lebanon. We're working with everybody in the
Middle East. That's another thing I think we have in common.
We want to see peace in the.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Middle East, and we actually have now for the first
time peace in the Middle East. After three thousand years,
and now we're going to refine it, and I think
you're going to see some very positive things happen. Why
did anything, Oh sure, Oh, I would do that absolutely,
And if the mayor would like to be here for
that meaning because I know he feels very strongly.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think you feel very very strongly about peace in
the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
We desperately wanted and that's something that I shared with
the President that when I spoke to New Yorkers who
had voted for the President last November on Hillside Avenue
in Fordham Road, I asked them why. I heard again
and again two major reasons. One was that they wanted
an end.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
To forever wars.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
They wanted an end to the taxpayer dollars we had
funding violations of human rights, and they wanted to address
the cost of living crisis. And I appreciated the chance
to discuss both of those things.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
You said, a lot of my voters actually voted for
him and them, and I'm okay with it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'll do that. I'll sign it, give.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
It to that's that's pretty good, all right, Yeah, so
we'll pause it. I don't want to miss any of this.
This is actually quite remarkable. I didn't know we were
going to get a full Q and A. And I'm
so glad they went to the New York Post guy
first because he was ready to be like, you called
this guy a communist like a week ago, and then
he asked, Mom, Donnie, you called this guy fascist like

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two days ago, like and uh. They seem to be
on the same page. The way that they're interacting with
each other's it's remarkable. It's it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Pause, We're not going to miss anything.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'll do that. I'll sign it, give it to That's
that's pretty good, mister president.

Speaker 9 (06:49):
Mister president, mister President, you've threatened to send federal troops
to New York City. You both have differences when it
comes to ICE agents in New York City. On mister Momdonie,
you called ICE a rogue government entity. I wonder how
you reconcile your differences on both of those issues.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think we're going to work them out.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And I think that if we have known murderers and
known drug dealers and some very bad people, you know,
we want.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
To get them out.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
And the mayor on we discussed as a great length
actually maybe more than anything else he wants to have
a safe New York. Ultimately, a safe New York is
going to be a great new York if it's not safe,
no matter how well we do with pricing and with
anything else, we can talk about anything you want. If
you don't have safe streets, it's not going to be
a success.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So we're going to work together.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
We're going to make sure that if they are horrible
people there, we want to get him out.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think he wants to get him out.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Maybe more than I do, so we'll work together. We
discussed it at great length.

Speaker 10 (07:47):
Yes, please, Yeah, two questions if I mean, won't for
you miss President on BBC in a second, But first
of all, for the mayor elect. You're both from different
parts of the political spectrum. You're both populoust though, and
I just wonder to what extent the President's campaign style,
his techniques, his social media inspired any parts of your campaign.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well, I actually told the President that, you know, so
much of the focus of our campaign has been on
the cost of living crisis. And when we asked those
New Yorkers who had voted for the President, when we
saw an increase in his numbers in New York City,
that came back to the same issue cost of living,
cost of living, cost of living, and they spoke about
the cost of groceries, the cost of rent, to the
cost of khan ed, the cost of childcare. And too

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often politicians are looking to lecture to New Yorkers what
they should care about, as opposed to listen. And when
we spoke to those voters who voted for President Trump,
we heard them speak about cost of living. We focus
on that same cost of living. And that's where I
am really looking forward to delivering for New Yorkers in
partnership with the President on the affordability agenda.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Hik Amiding and I think we have to work a
little bit. We talked about con Edison. We have to
work a little bit in getting the prices because you know,
we've gotten fuel prices way down, but it hasn't shown
up in con Edison.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
And we're going to have to talk to them.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
You know, if if if we're seeing sending them fuel
that a much lower price than it was a year ago,
which is true. Uh, we have to get kind interson
to start lowering their rates.

Speaker 10 (09:09):
Absolutely, and if they last week he told me you
were pushing ahead with your plans to see the BBC
for up to five billion dollars. You're gonna speak to
Prime Minister Starmer as well. Is there any progress or
any updates.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
On those issues.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, we get well very well with uh the Prime
Minister we've made to deal with UK.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I like him.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He's a fine person. And you know, I think they
have some big energy problems. You know, they've got windmills
all over the place. They're gonna have to start using
other methods because their energy is out of control. Talking
about in the UK is out of control. And he's
got that problem. He's got a big immigration problem, as
you know, and he's got a big energy problem.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And we talk about he's a good man. Yeah, Prime
Minister is a good man. You have talk to see
this week. I haven't spoken this week.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Intend to be them because it's a lens kid about
your way on igret with them.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Uh, I've spoken with their people. We UH have a plan.
It's uh horrible what's happening. It's a war that should
have never happened. It would have never happened if I
was president. And it's a shame and I thought they
should have acted quicker. But it's a cold winter and
a lot of the UH, A lot of the You
talk about utilities, but a lot of the big UH
energy producing plants have been under attack. To put it mildly,

(10:23):
to put it nicely, Uh, yeah, we have a a
way of getting peace, or we think we have a
way of getting peace. He's gonna have to approve it.
Just so, said so many people. You know, the last
month they lost twenty five thousand soldiers. This is UH
something we haven't seen anything like this. It's the Second
World War. They're averaging six or seven thousand a week

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between the two of 'em dead soldiers, and it goes
on and on, and Uh, I think they're getting reasonably close.
But I it's I I don't wanna predict. I woulda
said that would have been one of my early ones.
I did eight peace deals of countries, including in India, Pakistan,
you could even go in fact, they're coming here in

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a week or two, go to the Congo and Rwanda.
That was one ten million people did and we work
something out on that.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But so many.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And the one I thought would have been for me,
because I have a very good relationship with President Putin,
I thought that would have been maybe quicker, but it
does take two to tango. And now you just see
all the death and you know it doesn't affect us
other than the fact that we don't want to see
all those people that really it's on the other side
of the ocean. It's a war that should have never happened.

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It happened. I blame the person also sitting right behind
this desk. This is a war that should have never happened,
and it wouldn't have happened if I were president. But
we're trying to save a lot of lives. They're losing
twenty five think of that, twenty five thousand lives over
the last short period of time. That's Ukrainian and Russian

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and into shame.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
All right, Well before we we're gonna posit there. I'm
captivated by this as much as I want to kind
of interject and be like, oh, like, what are they
talking about here? Zora mam Donni is sitting here. This
is good stuff too, because Donald Trump also has talked
about updates and things that he's talked about with Ukraine
and with the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin. But does

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aramm Donni sitting here next to Donald Trump in the
Oval Office and the way they're talking to each other,
and they're talking about New York and they're talking about
the United States. It's actually quite compelling because I don't
think anybody thought this would be the way that this
conversation would go.

Speaker 11 (12:39):
I want to ask the mayor elect about a House
resolution it just passed overwhelmingly to condemn socialism, including with
eighty six Democrats, all of House dem leadership and the
minority leader, ha Km Jeffries, despite his endorsement of you.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
What's your reaction to that.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I have to be honest with you, I focused very
little on resolutions. Frankly, I've been focusing on socialism. I understand.
I think the focus is on the work at hand.
I can tell you I am someone who is a
democratic socialist. I've been very open about that, and I
know there might be differences about ideology, but the place
of agreement is the work that needs to be done
to make New York City affordable. That's what I look
forward to.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I want to.

Speaker 11 (13:13):
Clarify your answer to Steven Nelson. He asked about your
comment calling the president a fascist, and your answer was,
with President Trump and I have been clear about our
positions and our views are you affirming that you think
President Trump is a fascist?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
I've spoken about.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's okay, okay, it's easier. It's easier than explaining.

Speaker 11 (13:35):
And I wanted to ask you also about this Ukraine plan.
President Zelensky said today that his country would risk either
giving up a partner or giving up its dignity. There's
been criticism that this deal proposed to it's unclear. He
was sort of tenuous.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
About you'll have to like it, and if he doesn't
like it, then you know, they should just keep fighting.

Speaker 11 (13:58):
I guess you know, though, was that if he doesn't
accept it, that the US would pull back its support
for Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Is well, at some point he's going to have to
accept something you know he hasn't accepted. You remember, right
in the Oval Office not so long ago, I said,
you don't have the cards. Don't forget. I inherited this war.
I would have never this war never would have happened.
I inherited this war. And I thought he should have
made a deal a year ago, two years ago, the

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ultimate deal would have been never started. That would have
been a good deal. That could have been done too,
if you had the right president. But you didn't have
the right president as the president.

Speaker 9 (14:36):
Mister President, the cost of living is something that you
and mister Mondani seem to agree on. Democrats have run
New York City for a long time. Mister Mundani, do
you see Democrat policy specifically as being a problem? And
I'd like that be a question that both of you
could answer.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
In New York City, Look, I think that there are
many things in our city where we have to own
the responsibility of its things that existed long before the
president was the president, and those are also part of
a message of our campaign was to take on a
broken politics of the past, and I ran against a
number of candidates who represented different versions of that past.
And what we found time and again is that working

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people were left behind in the politics of our city.
And what we're looking to do is put those people
right back at the heart of our politics so that
we don't have a situation where we're in the wealthiest
city in the history of the world and yet one
in five can't even afford two dollars and ninety cents
for a metro card.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know, we had some interesting conversation and some of
his ideas really are the same ideas that I have.
But a big thing on cost. You know, the new
word is affordability. Another word is just groceries. You know,
it's sort of an old fashioned word, but it's very accurate.
And they're coming down. They're coming down. They were you know,
we had both of us. We had the highest inflation

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in the history of our country the last four years
under the Biden administration. And we've got inflation now to
a normal number. It's going to go even a little
bit lower than that. Katy, you have something, Thank you
so much, mis from mom.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Donnie often talks about New York City being covered by
international law, that they will follow international law. Doesn't often
talk about the US Constitution.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
What is your response to that, Well, I don't know
what you're referring to in terms. It can be covered
by international local law. It's covered by a lot of laws,
but it's covered by US law. Are you referring to
anything in particular? He just says that they're a city
that endorses and enforces international law.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Would you want to have you do you want to
respond to?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah? I think what I've shared with the President is
our desire to not only follow the laws of our
own city, laws that protect New Yorkers but also a
desire for consistency in our politics across the board. And
that's something that we've talked about and something that I
know many New Yorkers want. We discussed ice and New
York City, and I spoke about how the laws that

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we have in New York City allow for New York
City government to speak to the federal administration for about
one hundred and seventy serious crimes. The concerns that many
New Yorkers have are around the enforcement of immigration laws
on New Yorkers across the Five boroughs, and most recently,
we're talking about a mother and her two children. How
this has very little to do with what that is.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
We discussed crime more than ice per se. We discuss crime,
and he doesn't want to see crime, and I don't
want to see crime, and I have very little.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Doubt that we're not going to get along on that issue.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
He wants to and he said some things that were
very interesting, very interesting as to housing construction, and he
wants to see houses go up. He wants to see
a lot of houses created, a lot of apartments built,
et cetera. And you know, we actually people would be shocked,
but I want to see.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
The same thing protesters ms. I want to know one
of the.

Speaker 12 (18:00):
As well that mayret like Montdomie talked a number of
times about on the campaign, was shifting the tax burden
for property taxes from what he called minority communities to
white based communities and putting.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
More taxes on white people.

Speaker 12 (18:14):
I also noticed that in your acceptance speech you didn't
mention didn't mention anything about America or Christians or white
people in general, and so I didn't know if that
was one of the policies that you guys had spoken about.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
We focused on affordability, We focused on the cost of
living crisis. What I will say is that I am
very much interested in property tax reform because what we
see right now in New York City is a system
that is so inequitable that it can't even stand up
in court. And the President and I spoke about the
importance of not only building more housing, but also making
sure that regulation of housing is something that is manageable

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to actually get through and not the cause of yet
another weight that we see.

Speaker 12 (18:51):
Are so clear you're continuing this idea of race based
property taxes.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
To be very clear, the use of the term was
a description of neighborhoods not a description of intent.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So you intend to tax the whiter neighborhood's more.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
No, we intend to create a fair property tax system
because we want a New York city that is not
only fair and equitable, but also one that ever New
York can afford.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Mister Montani, anti Israel protesters just targeted a synagogue in
New York. Are you concerned about Jewish New Yorkers feeling
welcome and safe in the city? And President Trump, you've
threatened to cut off federal funding to New York City.
What policies would prompt you to do that? Would that
be city run first rey stores?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Would it be something else?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Well, I think if we didn't get along, whether it's
cut off or just make it a little bit difficult,
or not give as much we want to see I
use the term, we don't want good money going after that,
and we just we don't want that to happen. I
don't think that's going to happen. I did say, you know,
subject to what policies are being said. We had a

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meeting today that actually surprised me. He wants to see
no crime, he wants to see how being built, he
wants to see rents coming down. All things that I
agree with. Now we may disagree how we get there.
The rent coming down, I think one of the things
that really gleaned Verry very much today. We'd like to
see him come down, ideally by building a lot of

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additional housing.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
That's the ultimate way. He agrees with that, and so
do I.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
But if I read the newspapers of the series, hear
I don't hear that.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
But I heard him say it today, and I think
that's a very positive step.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
No, I don't expect. I expect to be helping him,
not hurting him. A big help because I want New
York City to be great. Look, I love New York City.
It's where I come from. I spent a lot of
years there. Now I'm right here. We took a big
setback with a mayor that we had named Deblasio. I
thought it was a tremendous setback for the city. I

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think this mayor can do some things that are going
to be really great.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, I mean, it's just a really remarkable turn of
events the way that Donald Trump and Zoronman. I just
you want to talk about odd bedfellows who are on
screen on camera. I said, maybe this was for the cameras,
but there's some substance to the actual discussion with these
two guys.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I I just I'm sitting here and I'm I'm just shocked.
It's really, honestly a visual I did not anticipate.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
The President knew you. You're a billionaire.

Speaker 9 (21:26):
You have a different address nowadays than you used to,
but you used to call New York City home. Would
you feel comfortable living in New York City under a
Mum Donnie.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Administration, especially after the meeting? Absolutely? What makes you?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
We agree it a lot more than I would have thought.
I think he's I want him to do a great
job and will help them do a great job. You know,
he may have different views, but in many ways, you know,
we were discussing. When Bernie Sanders was out of the race.
I picked up a lot of his votes, and people
had no idea because he was strong on getting ripped
off in trade and lots of the things that I've

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practiced and have been very successful on.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Tariffs, a lot of things Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
And I agreed on much more than people thought, And
when he was put out of the race, I think
quite unfairly. If you want to know the truth, many
of the Bernie Sanders voters voted for me, and I
felt very comfortable, frankly, and seeing that and saying that,
and you know, it just turned out to be a
statistical truth.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
But no, I feel very comfortable. I would be.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I would feel very very comfortable being in New York,
and I think much more so after the meeting.

Speaker 11 (22:37):
Is please, I have a question for you, but a
very quick one for the mayor. Why did you fly here?
Aren't trains greener?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (22:46):
He's every form of transit and I want to make
sure that they're all affordable in New York City. And
that's why making buses fast and free as a centerpiece
of work.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Did you here's the bus that goes that's a lot
quicker too, you know, I mean he's working very hard
for him to be as a long it's a very
that's a.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Very long drive. I'll stick up for you.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
You know, the plane takes you thirty minutes and driving
takes you a long And.

Speaker 11 (23:07):
As wonder if you could clear up some confusion around
a Washington Post report. There was this explosive report that
the Coast Guard is no longer going to characterize swashedifas
and news his hate symbols.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
DHS called that a lie and fake news. Can you
clear up? I don't know anything about it. When when
was this written? Yesterday? Well?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Look, the Coast Guard is an incredible group of people.
I know very well. Just ordered a lot of new
Coast Guard cutters, beautiful, the most magnificence shift. They look
like yachts with lots of guns on them. So I
don't know. I haven't seen any report like that, but
certainly we want them to remain a great force and
they are.

Speaker 8 (23:48):
And you did the peace in all the nine months. Yes,
I don't do what I would like to ask, mister Mamdaney,
you've accused the asked government of committing genocide and Gaza
white President Trumpet working on peace?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Why why that?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
I've spoken about the Israeli government committing genocide, and I've
spoken about our government funding it. And I shared with
the President in our meeting about the concern that many
New Yorkers have of wanting their tax dollars to go
towards the benefit of New Yorkers and their ability to
afford basic dignity. And what we see right now is
we're in the ninth consecutive year of more than one
hundred thousand school children being homeless in our city.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
And there's a.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Desperate need not only for the following of human rights,
but also the following through on the promises we've made
New Yorkers. And I appreciated the meeting we had and
the work that we can do.

Speaker 8 (24:31):
That President Trump didn't do a piece and work hard
to make the peace, because we were hard to do
with the peace in the Midate East and everywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
What do you agree with that?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I appreciate all efforts towards peace, and I shared with
President Trump that when I spoke to Trump voters on
Hillside Avenue, including one of whom was a pharmacist, that
spoke about how President Trump's father actually went to that
pharmacy not too far from Jamaica, states that people were
tired of seeing our tax dollars fund endless wars. And
I also believe that we have to follow through on
the international human rights and I know that still today

(25:01):
those are being violated, and that continues to be work
that has to be done no matter where.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
We're speaking of the leader of the party, and you
have to follow his well.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Look, I hope they have great leaders. This is a
man that right now I think is focused in New
York City. I really think there's a chance to do
a great job. We're gonna help him, but I really
think he's a chance to do a great job. But
I'll let you ask say that you consider yourself the
leader of the Democrats, I think it's more appropriate for him.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I consider myself the next mayor of New York City,
and I keep my horizons firmly on New York City.
And I appreciate the meeting with the President, which focused
again on the Five Boroughs and whether New Yorkers could
afford to live there.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
By the way, being the mayor of New York City
is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I always said, you know, one of the things I
would love to be someday is the mayor of New
York City. Being the mayor of New York and especially now,
because I think you're really a turning point one way.
You know that you can go great or it can
go in a different direction, and I think you really
have a chance to make it great.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I appreciate what.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
You love New York City, mister maum Downie.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Does New York City love President Trump?

Speaker 4 (26:13):
New York City loves the future that is affordable. And
I can tell you that there were more New Yorkers
who voted for President Trump in the most recent presidential
election because of that focus on cost of living. And
I'm looking forward to working together to deliver on that
affordability agenda.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I got a lot of votes. One more, go ahead,
one or two more. Good.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
I tell you, the press has eaten this thing up.
You know, I've had a lot of meetings with the
heads of major countries. Nobody cared this meeting that you
people have gone. You know, outside you have hundreds of
people waiting. This is just a small little group. For
some reason, the press has found this to be a
very interesting meeting. The biggest people in the world, they

(26:53):
come over from countries nobody cares. But they did care
about this meeting, and it was a great meeting.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Good.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yes, Why do you think there's so much more, you know,
so much excitement around less that he and some for.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Him because different?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Alright, I think he's different, and that can be in
a very positive way. But I think he's different than
you know, your typical guy runs, he wins, becomes mayor
maybe and nothing exciting because he has a chance to
really do something great for New York. New York is
at a very critical point, and he does need to
help with the federal government to really succeed, and we're
gonna be helping him. But uh, he's different than you know,

(27:31):
your average candidate. He came out of nowhere. I'd said,
he has a great campaign manager's standing over there. Uh,
he came out of he came out of nowhere. What'd
you start off at one or two? And then I
I watched, I say, who is this guy? He was
at one, and he was at three, that it was
at five, that he was at nine.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
And he went up to seventeen. I said, hm, let's
get it a little bit of.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Trusting, right, And then all of a sudden, he wins
the primary that nobody expected he was gonna win. It's
a great, a great tribute. It's an amazing thing that
he did.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I'm sorry, I'll just add one thing to what the
President said. Is one thing I also appreciated is in
our meeting to appreciate a portrait of FDR and the
incredible work that was done with the new Deal, and
also in thinking about what it can look like when
the federal government and New York City government work together

(28:24):
deliver on affordability.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It can be transformed.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
You know, we have a great portrait of FDR that
I found in the vaults that was missing for years.
I found it and I put it up. He's a Democrat.
To the best of my noves, he's a democrat. And
when the mayor saw of that portrait, he said, sir,
do you mind if I have a picture taken by
that point? It's an amazing put The picture comes out good,
but it's an amazing portrait in the cabinet room. There

(28:50):
you go.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
They may be talking for a little bit longer than that.
You'll be able to find all this stuff on social
media reposted. I just can't believe this, and he even
says it, it's like, wow, the press is really eating
this up. Yes we are. The media is eating this up.
This is a self proclaimed democratic socialist who very recently
is called Donald Trump a fascist. Says he, I mean,

(29:13):
he's gonna be Donald Trump's worst nightmare. He has said this.
He has been elected by a city of eight point
five million people, the largest city in our country, and
he wants to do some really radical things. And Donald
Trump and him had a meeting today and all that
they're talking about. In the meeting, Donald Trump is called
this guy a communist, said that he would never vote
for a guy like this. He would vote for Andrew

(29:35):
Cuomo over him. And here they are in the White
House in the Oval Office. The way that they're shaking hands,
they're you know, tapping at each other on the back.
I mean this, it's honestly, it feels like hell's kind
of frozen over a little bit. We don't know Zoramm
Donnie as well as we know Donald Trump, obviously, but
what we know about him, I would not have ever
anticipated this type of meeting, with this type of camaraderie

(29:58):
between these two individuals, and the way Donald Trump said, yeah,
I'd love to move to New York with him?

Speaker 11 (30:03):
Is the mayor?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Are you kidding me? Who had this on the Bengo card.
I just cannot believe what we have heard between Zoramm
Donnie and Donald Trump. Is it not very strange?

Speaker 13 (30:18):
Yeah, they were talking very sweetly to each other. And
this was something I was able to see with it
pulled up on my monitor. Over here. There was a
lot of positive body language and there was a couple
of times where they even touched each other in a
way that was you know a pat yeah, yeah, yeah,
like that's something you do with a buddy. Yeah, like
positive body language where they were like affirming it with

(30:39):
the contact, or you know, it was kind of interesting
to see.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
How about that? Isn't that kind of crazy? I don't
want anybody to be, Oh, Zoron's a change man. Donald
Trump likes Zoran. I mean Donald Trump seems too like
Zoron for whatever it's worth. Based on that interaction, the
question becomes what happens next? Does oor and go back

(31:04):
to New York get sworn in and start, you know,
finding ways to try to undermine Donald Trump or to
try to talk garbage about Republicans in general. Not that
that should matter. I mean, it doesn't seem like it's
that big of a deal, right, I Mean, what's the
point of doing that, because it's not like the President
of the United States had anything to do with him

(31:26):
getting elected or not getting elected. New York is super blue.
The people who voted for him probably are also not.
Like he said, one in ten Trump voters voted for him.
That's still not that many people. I mean, it's not
like based on the results of the election. It's not
one of those things where you're just kind of like, yeah,
that obviously that one person all of a sudden deciding

(31:47):
that they don't like Zorn anymore would lose him a
reelection campaign four years from now. It's not the read
I get on it. Would Donald Trump look at some
of the stuff that Zoron is doing and start talking
smack again about him on social media and true social
and in front of the cameras when Zoron's not present.

(32:08):
I didn't get that red, you know, like you could
say that with some of these you know, I talked
about the Mark Carney thing. Mark Carney, I'm Minister of Canada,
talked pretty big game about wanting to stand up to
Donald Trump and you know, like flex for Canada. And
then when him and Donald were in the same room

(32:28):
at the same time, Donald still says the same stuff,
the same fifty first state, all that stuff. And you
want to know something quite interesting, Mark Carney sat there.
He sat there and he just kind of smirked, didn't
have much to say like, yeah, you're you're doing it, Mark, congratulations,
You're really standing up for yourself. I'm not sure as

(32:51):
it relates the as it relates to this conversation. It
just was a completely different Donald Trump. It was a
completely different Donald Trump than we've seen with some of
the other world leaders that he has. And him and
Zoron standing there. He was sitting at the desk, Trump
was Zoron was standing next to him, and they were

(33:15):
They weren't talking over each other and weren't trying to
interrupt each other correcting each other about things. Trump was
doing his thing and the way that he talked about
a lot of different things and saying, you know, the
Ukraine War would never happen. You know, the inflation was
highest because of the previous administration. We're bringing cost way
down and all that stuff. And it's it's trump isms,
trump isms, whatever you want to call them. They are.

(33:39):
I mean, you could have a Bengo card and you
could mark every single one of those off. Almost every
time that he's talking to the press, no matter what,
no matter what he's asked about, it'll eventually get to
it at some point, right But with Zoron, you know,
he just kind of joking with him. I think one
of the more interesting moments was when there was a
reporter there challenging him why he flew instead of him

(34:03):
going to like it's like because he's such a big
public transportation guy. He's a trained guy, he's a he's
a bus guy. He's like, why did you take a flight?
I mean it was like, it's a reporter trying to
get a gotcha moment. I don't know how serious she was.
But at the same time Donald Trump jumped in, He's like,
come on, it was a thirty minute flight. He you know,
he's he cares about what he does for New York

(34:24):
and it's a long drive for me. I've never taken
that drive either.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
He's like trying to play a little bit of mediator
there from you know, a reporter who was likely from
a you know, conservative publication, trying to catch his Ora
mom Donnie in a little gotcha moment there. And then
there was the time that a different person said you
called Donald Trump a fascist. We asked, like, if you
think about that with him earlier, and you really didn't

(34:49):
say you didn't, do you still think he's a fascist?
And Zorn's kind of trying to dance around the question,
just kind of like what do you want me to
say here? Without saying, hey, I was wrong, He's not
a fascist. He can't say that. He can't say that now,
and for the people that support him like that, that
would make him look incredibly spineless. Donald Trump knows what
the name calling thing is because he was calling him

(35:09):
a communist two weeks ago. And so Donald Trump was
the one that said, just say yes, it's not a
big deal. It's just say yes, it's no big deal.
And he's like, he's telling Zoron, just don't feel like
you need to explain yourself to these people. He's saying
this in front of the cameras. I can't, I couldn't.
I can't believe it.

Speaker 13 (35:26):
Yeah, I don't know if I've ever really seen anything
like that where they're like Trump wasn't even giving him
a chance to respond. He was kind of Intererjeck, like,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
He's like he's like coaching him through it. He's just like,
you don't have to answer that question. This is mom Duddy,
isn't the Democratic Socialist? I just I can't believe it.
I know, and maybe I'm overreacting here, but if you
would have told me these two guys are gonna get
into a room, they were gonna have a good meeting,
they were gonna take questions from We basically had that
thing playing for you know, we heard probably forty thirty

(35:58):
to forty minutes of their talk in them answering questions,
which was compelling. They answered a lot of questions. They
both were talking a lot about different things, and the
mutual respect they seem to have for each other was
not something I had anticipated. And for not just to
be civil, but to be honestly quite productive is a
shocking development for me. And if Donald Trump and him

(36:22):
are like at all friendly with each other, that honestly
could be a thing that tones the political rhetoric in
this country down. It honestly does. It really makes like
like this is a guy who whether or not he's
ever going to be president of the United States, they're
going to have to adjust some constitutional rules. But if
he ever becomes the president of the United States or not,

(36:45):
it doesn't matter. Him being a young man like this
as far as politics are related, in his mid thirties
and he's the mayor of the biggest city in the
United States, that is a he's an important figure in
the Democrat Party, and not just for right now, but
for the future of what this party was will look like.
And that's no matter what his goals are, because there
are gonna be plenty of miniature Zorns popping up in

(37:06):
cities all over America. But to have Donald Trump, of
all people, the maga guy himself, talking to a self
proclaimed democratic socialist like this and having some type of
respect for him and saying I would I would be
fine living in New York with him as my mayor.

(37:27):
It is a very fascinating development today