VP Debate Recap: Who Won? Who Lost?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Afternoon soccer Wednesday afternoon over there at Warner Park. Yeah,
you need Omaha for nil four nil victory?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
What is that French for zero?

Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's just what you say in soccer. Yeah, just like
you say love and love in tennis.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know what I mean? That's cool though, up four nil?
No they want it's already over. Oh it's over. Forty
five hundred fans were there. Nice.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm guessing there are plenty of school kids that are
part of that, which I That's why I really love
the afternoon Game's great chance for people to do that. So, yeah,
did you see the video.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm going to get to this.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm going to get to this debate in a second,
and if you want to call in you can four
h two five five, eight eleven ten. Matt, I'm sending
you a link real quick because I saw a video
of for Jimmy Carter's one hundredth birthday party.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Have you seen this? I have not, all right? I
sent it to you.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Open it and tell me when you're looking at it.
There's no audio to play, otherwise I would please.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Let me know. Are you seeing it? You opening it yet? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you looking at it? Jimmy Carter turned one hundred yesterday.
It was yesterday, right, Yeah, that's right, you're watching that. Yeah,
do some play by play on this? Just a family
together having a having a good time. And yeah, he's
he's definitely in his last stage, that's for sure, so
it's good he gets to be with family during it.

(01:29):
This kind of goes back to our conversation about what's
his face Frankie Valley yesterday. I'm uncomfortable watching stuff like this.
The guy he's very, very old, very frail and full.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, I don't know. It's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's a tough one to watch either way, though, Happy
birthday to former President Carter. I'm not going to tell
people how to do their thing, but Manta, he was
posting up for Camra. Work with this guy in this
in this state of his life, it's tough. It's a
tough one for me. Sorry. Anyway, you watched that debate

(02:10):
last night. I did not just say yes for for yes.
I did every second. What what'd you think? What was
the real takeaway? What was the big takeaway last night?
Based on you know your opinion? Well, the that was
a really weird protest. First, it was the cats okay, man,
and we're running all over the stage and then and

(02:32):
then later the dog the dogs were running everywhere, and
then the dogs started fighting with the cats, and it
was the cats.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Versus the dogs, and it was just ridiculous and I
couldn't tell who was who's because who's on whose side?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Are the dogs for advance? Are the cats for walls?
Or is it reverse? I was having trouble with that one.
And then and the moderators were not helping me, you know,
they were narrating the thing the best they could, but
then they kept cutting people's mics. And then they gave
a mic to one of the dogs and he just
started barking, and it was like, I don't know what
he's Meanwhile.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I was that could be a children's book, like the
Debate that went wrong. Yeah, and it's like Lemony Snickets
series of unfortunate events, except it just like perpetually. There's
bad things that happen over and over and over and
over and over again.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
That'd be funny though.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then there's an election and Mickey Mouse ends up
winning one way or the other. Yeah, what did I
think I do? JD vans He gets a strong a
from me on all seriousness. He was prepared, he was civil.
Both guys were civil, nice strong handshake at the beginning
of that thing. Both guys, no personal attacks on each other.
They kind of questioned each other, but it was like
a it was a debate about by of a bygone

(03:46):
era where we weren't just like making fun of each other.
We're talking actual policy. I would bet ninety percent of
that debate we were talking about actual policy. The other
ten percent most of that was talking about Tim Wallas
and him lying about being in Tieneman Square, which is uh.
He had a four minute, long winded answer, mentioned his
rule upbringing in Nebraska, which threw us under the bus,

(04:10):
but basically said, you know, people know who I am.
He told a little bit a quick ninety second elevator
pitch of his life story and said people know where
he was and voted for him to Congress and then
voted for him for governor and you know whatever. And
then the moderator, who again it seemed like they were

(04:31):
very much kind of tilted towards the Democrats most of
the night in terms of the way that they were
kind of asking the questions but came right back at him.
And said, so there was a discrepancy in the time.
The question was about a discrepancy in time. He said,
you were in China and you were in Hong Kong
when the Teneman Square massacre occurred, but there's actual evidence

(04:53):
that you were not there. And he after completely not
answering the question, he called himself a knucklehead. He basically said,
I misspoke, so and that's the moment that you know,
that's the gotcha moment for him, the gotcha moment for JD.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Vance.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And I don't know how many of these people are plants,
but I did see quite a few people say that.
When Jade Vance refused to acknowledge that Donald Trump lost
the twenty twenty election, instead saying Tim, I'm looking toward
the future, that was the way that and they've already
made an ad out of that, by the way, the
Harris campaign where Tim Walls looks at jd and says

(05:31):
did Donald Trump? Like I need to ask did Donald
Trump lose the twenty twenty election? And JD Vance said, Tim,
I'm here to look toward the future, and Tim Walls
essentially is like, well, that's a damning non answer, and
they have used that already in a right so I mean,
you can't escape the twenty twenty election. Still, Tim Walls

(05:53):
is lined about being in Tienaman Square. Who's to say,
But I thought we actually got even though there were
moments like that. I thought it was a really well
done debate. I had no issue for the most part
with the questions. I was kind of surprised Ukraine never
popped back up. We didn't really hear much about Ukraine. Obviously,

(06:13):
Israel kind of has taken a lot of the spotlight
when it comes to foreign policy, and rightly so, I
think it was incredibly important to hear about policy from
two people we don't really know that well. And I
was honestly very pleased that they kept it to policy,
and it felt like both guys were very civil with
each other and were very respectful of each other. It

(06:35):
was kind of a nice change of pace. What did
you think If you got thoughts on the debate from
last night, please let us know. Go ahead and give
us a call. Four h two five five eight eleven ten.
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eleven ten kfab Justin is on the phone line. I
had four h two five to five, eight eleven ten. Hello, Justin,

(06:58):
what do you think about this?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Well, first off, I just get tired of hearing the
lies and one that didn't get called out that Tim
Wall said last night. He said he's from a town
of four hundred people in Nebraska. He's from west Point.
West Point, according to the Census Bureau in nineteen sixty,
had twenty six hundred people.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah, so I know that's small, that's petty, that's minor.
But when there's lie after lie after lie after lie,
it gets overwhelming, it gets exhausty.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, I guess my question then to you, Justin, would
be the last presidential debate last month between Trump and Harris.
They did, like ABC did do fact checking on the
candidates as they said stuff, they were trying to correct
them in the moment, and that turned out to be
a pretty clunky and pretty poorly reviewed practice. How would you,

(07:59):
how would you what would your preference be of how
to do that? Because I agree I think we need
to hold the people on stage accountable first, you know,
telling us you know the truth and not trying to
fabricate things and trying to mislead us.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Well, I don't think that the that the moderator should
be the ones doing the fact checking. I think that
they need to have an independent panel that is fact
checking it and putting the true fact on the screen
on the TV where everybody's watching it. That a way,
you know, when sim Wallson, he's from a ton of
four hundred people fact check it was twenty six hundred

(08:37):
in nineteen sixty.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
When that that a way, it doesn't interrupt the flow
of the debate. It doesn't come across as one side,
you know, it doesn't come across as a me organization
if you want to call him that, trying to pick
on one side of the truth fact check.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, And I don't disagree with you justin I just
feel like people kind of do their own fact checking.
The unfortunate thing is they just kind of go to
the source they always go to, and we know the
news sources generally are leaning one way or the other,
so you're not going to get the full picture. And
that's just a that's on us at a certain level
to you know, do our due diligence, to do our homework.

(09:16):
The best that we can in that scenario. I'm with you, though,
I think we are past the point of trying to
hold these politicians accountable in this situation. Because it is
so easy to lie these days, it should be easier
for us to figure out what is a lie and
what isn't a lie. Thanks for calling in. Kim's on
the line, Kim, welcome to our show today.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
What do you think, hi, Amory?

Speaker 7 (09:39):
Yes, I liked watching the debate because you could watch
their body language kind of, you know, and so my
impression was that Jim Walls is a big liar. That's
just my impression. He just gave all the body language
of that, and then jad he's very articulate and I

(10:08):
definitely would want him to be my vice president.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, Kim, there's no doubt that vance his oration skills
are much better than Tim Walls. And Tim Walls you
could tell. He's even said I think on record that
he's not super comfortable on the debate stage. You could tell,
especially the first half hour of that debate last night,
it just seemed like he was pretty uneasy. He had
the sweaty palm syndrome going on. He was kind of

(10:32):
shifting back and forth, and you're right, he kind of
talks himself into mistruths at a lot of the time,
it feels like, so there was no doubt that in
terms of just viewing that based on what your eyeballs
told you, if you were a person that wasn't leaning
one way or the other, that Walls certainly had a

(10:52):
lot more trouble getting himself going in the debate last
night than Vance did. Unfortunately, I think for a lot
of people Vance's can action to Donald Trump, They're automatically
going to think that JD. Vance is also a big
liar because Donald Trump has this reputation about lying when
it's not just in debates but on his rallies and everything,
and that's unfortunately JD. Vance is going to have to
overcome that. But what I was really pleased about seeing

(11:15):
is that he kind of stood strong. He is such
a good speaker, and he didn't kind of lean into
a lot of the crazy, more over the top rhetoric
that has gotten him in trouble. And one of the
things that I don't like about him is that he's
leaned into that over the last few weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, last night he didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
He sounded like a legitimate candidate that could actually do
a lot of good as a high ranking official in
this country, and I was really pleased to see.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That from him.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I appreciate you calling in, Kim, thank you so much
for listening.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
There's no doubt there's no doubt that JD was much
better last night. There is an awful lot of people
who have a variety of opinions that they have been
able to form over the last I say, five we
ish weeks, five six weeks about Tim Walls, as we

(12:08):
kind of got him into the public consciousness. You've had
a couple of months trying to learn about JD.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Vance.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I think last night was an opportunity for us learn
a lot more about them than we had in the past.
And I think that's an important factor as well, to
not just hear what they have to say about policy,
and I was glad to hear a lot about policy,
but also just kind of their demeanor. And Tim Walls
definitely seemed uneasier, more uneasy, I should say, throughout the

(12:34):
debate than say somebody like JD Vans, who seemed to
really be up for the moment there as well. Dana's
on the phone line of four h two five five
eight to eleven ten. Hello, Dana, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh, I just want to do a little correction. I
am here in West Point. I was born and raised here.
Tim Walls was actually born here in West Point up
with a hospital, but his mom and dad at the
time lived in Dodge, Nebraska. That's about twenty miles away
from us here, and so, yeah, he was born here
in the hospital. When he and mom felt better, they

(13:08):
went back home to Dodge, and I'm not sure how
many years after that they moved out to the Panhandle.
I don't remember what small town, but we don't claim
Tim Walls is coming from West Point. I wanted to
clear that up.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, so he was born there. I think he was
raised mostly in Butte, which is up on the South
Dakota border, and that is a very small place. But
again I think there in the way that it was
brought up Dane, and I think that's more of the
issue that we're talking about here, is he brought that
up kind of as a way to deter the conversation
about him not being in Tieneman Square when that massacre

(13:44):
occurred back in the late eighties into the early nineties,
And I think that our previous caller did have kind
of a good point, that, you know, to bring up
something like that to try to make him seem somewhat
relatable to the rest of America when the question really
was how do you explain the discrepancy in time there?
I think that was I just think it was an

(14:06):
inappropriate time to kind of retell that at at that time.
You know what I'm saying, he was trying to cover
up a lie with that.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Yeah, as much as he danced around that dog on question,
he almost puts Michael Jackson into shame.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, somebody get Billy Jean in the background for that.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
That'd be pretty free. Thanks Dana. I appreciate the calling.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
You guys got a great show. Keep it up.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Thanks buddy. Mark.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
We'll get to Mark real quick right here. Mark, thanks
for calling in today. What were your thoughts about last night?

Speaker 8 (14:34):
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, Vance is definitely a
smoother talker than Walls, But but you know, to say
that Walls did the line, I mean two big ones
that JD. Vance said, and they were ridiculous lies.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
He said he's.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
Now or he's never been, for a national ban on abortion.
He completely signed on to that. There's documentation where he
he wrote articles on it. It was on his website
till he took it down. The other thing he said
that which was almost comical, is that Trump saved Obamacare.

(15:12):
Trump Trump tried sixty different times to get that overturned. Yeah,
he cut funding of the National Well, and he.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Also seemed to be confused about how the Affordable Charact worked.
There was there was quite a bit of confusion online
that I was reading about that Jdvance didn't seem to
quite understand how the Affordable chre Act worked anyway.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
So Mark doesn't.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Understand how insurance works either. Well, but to say that
Trump saved Obamacare, well, it is a complete, blatant, fat lie.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Okay, and Mark, I just want to clarify. I'm not
saying that either guy lied more than the other. I'm
not really here to do that. Nobody is free from that.
They both definitely told their fair share of lies last night.
So I don't want anybody to think that I said
that jd Vance didn't say anything that was untrue or
fabricated or embellished for the record, but there's no doubt
that there were some untruth What you're talking about, and

(16:07):
I appreciate the call. I got to go quickly, Marko,
thanks for calling in. But I think the bigger question,
mark right, is what lies or fibbs are kind of
within the realm of what politicians generally do, even though
they are incorrect or they are untrue.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
JD.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Van's kind of doing what a politician would do to
kind of shine a little bit more light on his
candidacy or his running mate as far as the presidential
race is concerned, to make him seem more elevated. We're
seeing people like Kamala Harris change all of her viewpoints
to try to appeal to the middle of America, and

(16:44):
that is kind of interesting to see her not be
held accountable for that by a lot of different organizations
as well. Tim Walls specifically lied about being in Tieneman
Square and said, oh, well, I just missmoke. I'm a
I'm a knucklehead. How will we not hold him accountable
for trying to lie about that stuff to make himself
more appealing to the rest of America. I just think

(17:05):
that what's good for the goose is good for the gander,
not to say that every lie is the same. I'm
just saying that there's some that seem to be a
little bit more egregious and a little bit more in
bad faith than others.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Two thirty. We'll take more calls when we come back.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's the middle of the week, That's what I mean. No,
it's International Day of Non Violence. Oh yeah, what'd you
get me to commemorate the birthday of Mahatma Gandhi?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
What do you get for such an occasion?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I don't know. We should probably ask those guys in
the Middle East right now.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Be nice if they would celebrate the occasion. Yeah, yeah,
what do you do? All right?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Anyway, we were talking about that debate more and more
specifically the vice president of debate last night, and phone
lines are open four oh two, five five eight to
eleven ten. Four oh two, five five eight eleven ten.
We got Brian on the line. Brian, welcome to our
show today. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
To us. What do you got for me today?

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Oh, welcome back to Nebraska, right, I'm your trip to Spain.
Thank you, and I agree with you. Jd Vance left
the crazy at home. He was playing mister normal and
and Waltz was being mister knight Sky and not calling
him out on the crazy or I don't think calling

(18:34):
them out nearly enough. Of course, if I haven't been there,
I probably didn't have been seen of mister knight Sky
because about a lot of things. Man, thank Paris Uh.
Jdvance didn't use the word terroriffs in answer to a
question about paid maternity leaves. He was like, oh, WHOA,
our trade policies will bring in so much money from

(18:55):
other countries, so we won't need paid cred leave on
the exact word, but terriffs the people inside the country
that pay the terriffs. And that's something that Trump and
he keeps saying that it will bring in so much
money from other countries, but actually it will make everything cost.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
A whole lot more.

Speaker 9 (19:14):
And we can see that with the porch shut down
right now, how much imports and exports matter.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, well, there's no doubt that there's going to be
the longer that that strike keeps going, the more I
think we're going to understand how important trade or the
steps in which trade occurs in this country, and some
of the things that we need to think about that
would be otherwise, you know, pretty overlooked. And again, you know,

(19:43):
sometimes it takes a strike like this for us to
even think about what those things are. I appreciate the
call there, Brian, Brian number two different. Brian is on
our phone line at four oh two, five, five, eight
to eleven ten.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
What do you think, Brian, Hey, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Yeah, Hey, I ants comfortable, articulate and formed.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
Uh, both were polite. I found walls. Uh, he did
better than I thought. He was on his heels a
couple of times seemed lost. I don't think it makes
a difference these vice presidential debates. It's a breath of

(20:27):
fresh air. They did seem civil to one another. And uh,
I don't know vice presidents. Vice presidents when they when
they make a coherent conversation in a debate, more than

(20:50):
our presidential candidates. And don't get me wrong, that has
something that says something.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, and I'm with you, I'm following you, Brian. I
think the important thing was that we had a civil debate,
because I think so much of the political conversation, especially
when you get these the candidates on a stage, whether
it's their rallies, whether it's their conventions, whether they're getting interviewed,
whether it's a debate, all that stuff, right Like, we need,

(21:25):
I think, to see a little bit more of that civility.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
This is why I highlighted last year when we had
all the turmoil in the House of Representatives and it
took him forever to find somebody who can be the
Speaker of the House. They gave the gavel to Mike Johnson,
who's a very conservative person in policy, but at King Jeffries,
who's a very liberal person who's in charge of the
Democrats in that chamber. He had nothing but complimentary things
to say about him, and then hugged him as he

(21:52):
gave him the gavel. And I just wish we would
see more of that, and I'm glad that the two
vice presidential candidates at least were able to show that
that's still can't exist. There still can be cordial and
politeness and you know, a civility even if we disagree
on these major political issues.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's the way it should be to me, and I.

Speaker 10 (22:14):
Totally agree, and it's got to start at I don't know,
a different level. I mean, I got friends that don't
think the way I do, and I'm stupid, and I'm
a Nazi and I'm a white supremacist, and these are

(22:34):
people I've own all my life. Right, we stop this.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I'm with you, Brian, and it takes it has to
come from our politicians first. Until our politicians can act
more of what we saw last night, then we can
start maybe seeing that trickle down of a little bit
more tolerance for each other in our opinions.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Thanks for the call. We really appreciate it for it
being a part of that.

Speaker 10 (22:55):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Absolutely, If you want to call in you got thoughts
about this vice presidential debate, I'd love to chat with you. You
can call in four, two, five to five, eight to
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Speaker 2 (23:07):
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Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think it's important for us to continue to have
dialogue about things, even if they kind of change our perception.
And I was actually incredibly pleased with the civility between
the two candidates last night. I thought jad Vance was
very very strong. I thought Tim Walls looked very nervous
at times. But the big takeaway that I had was
that both candidates seemed like they were actual politician candidates

(23:35):
and it wasn't about personal attacks. It was about policies.
That was a nice change up for me. Glenn's on
our phone line. You can call us A four h
two five five, eight eleven ten. Glenn, Welcome to our
show today. What's going on with you?

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Well, I've watched the debate under a different perspective. Okay,
Trump is Trump is on a second term and if
he serves the whole four years or something happens to it,
jd Vance is going to be our vice president, and
I wanted to see what our next president was going
to look like.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, what did you think?

Speaker 6 (24:09):
I thought it was great. Yeah, I think jd Vance
is a guy for me, and I thought I handled
himself very well.

Speaker 10 (24:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I think he definitely impressed me.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
You know, I've been pretty critical about the way that
he talks about things and how polarizing some of the
stuff is that he says. He really carried himself very
well last night, and if that's more the Jdvance that
we're going to see, there is a chance that you
can build the future of the Republican Party around a
guy like that as he gets more experience. Whether Trump
wins this time around or not, I think jd. Vance
is going to be a big player as a potential

(24:41):
presidential candidate from twenty twenty eight on, regardless of what
happens this time around. And I think that's part of
the reason why they picked him, Glenn, don't you think
is because he is so young and he really could
be somebody that you can build the continuation of this
movement around after Donald Trump is no longer in the picture.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Well yeah, I mean it's going to be the new
Republican Party.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
So no, no, for sure. I appreciate you calling in, Glynn.
Thanks for listening to our show today.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
One more quick thought, Yeah, what do you think about it?
Eighteen volt shock buzzer on fact check just hit him.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
So, so if somebody said something, do we uh, I mean,
it's going to take a little bit of time for
some fact checking. So do we have like what would
be really funny as if we did this right? And
they were hooked up to some polygraph or something and
then once like there was a lie detected or something,
it stunned them if there was a delay to it.
So they're in the middle of answering the next question

(25:39):
or something, and then all of a sudden, you see
them kind of like spas for a second because they
got stunned from saying a lie. That would be some
funny television's that's an esnl S get waiting to happen.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Yeah, but anyway, Yeah, thanks for letting me on, and
you know your show is great.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Thanks Glenn, really appreciate it. Yep, you have a good day.
What do you think, Matt, Uh, like shock buzzer or
a polygraph shock? So if you tell a lie in
the middle of the debate, you get electric not electrocuted,
but you know, electrified a little buzzing, little shock value.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Seems a little uh sadistic. Yeah, but come on, like,
who would be telling lies after that? It would be like, uh.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
The American people wouldn't have to worry about anybody telling
lies because if they lie, we'll know about it because
they'll be shocked right in front of us. I mean, imagine,
could you imagine a politician who has like kind of
a thick hair, like getting some static electricity, and like
the hair starts to just like rise above their head
like Einstein. Like I I think I'm down for anything

(26:52):
that gets us to a more reasonable situation where we
don't have to worry about who is or isn't like
and half of us, you know, arguing with each other
about who wins or loses a debate has everything to
do with who we believe lied or didn't lie, you
know what I mean. Like, I think we need a

(27:12):
buffer of some kind because also we as the American public,
and this is on us generally, will believe more about
a candidate that we're already in support of, just like
your kid. Right, it's like your kid, like if you
have a child. I don't have a kid, But if
my dog could talk. My dog started a little squabble
at the dog park.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I tend to think, well, you know, she was
coerced into that by this dog's other behavior, because he
kept sniffing her bum, or he kept trying to humper
or something. Right, I'm going to look for every reason
to think that there was a reason for that or
that is being misinterpreted by other people. And that's kind
of I think how we view our politicians these days.
We need like, we need like a separate class of

(27:54):
people who at a young age are picked out of
the population and take into a remote air and only
taught sacred things that this is getting weirder.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But you want to talk about statistic I'm into this.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, but no, we need like a we need like
a group of people who are the fact checkers. They
they and they're just we we sheltered they descend from
their perch somewhere in Alaska. We we shelter them from
any political opinion, a rhetoric. They only are like in
charge of figuring out what is or is not the truth.
This this gives me the Giver vibes. Have you read

(28:29):
The Giver? Yeah, but it's been since I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
So it's like you're like assigned a job or something
as a child and and basically you're apprenticing in that
situation for you know, your entire life. It's given me
that and that Oh you know, that's a story there,
that's you know, you want to talk about weird, right,
add some strange stuff there we're onto something here, though, Yeah,

(28:55):
I don't know. Maybe we can make a movie about it,
and it scares everybody into thinking that, you know, maybe
we should correct ourselves before we get too far out
of line here. I think it was a positive move
yesterday though for the most part. I mean, like you
watched that they were very civil with each other, a
good strong handshake. They weren't attacking each other's personalities or
their families or anything like that. It was much more
cordial than debates that we had seen from the Democratic

(29:18):
and Republican parties when they did their over the last
couple of cycles their nomination debates. There was a lot
of a lot more civility in this one last night
than we'd seen there. And obviously anything that's involving Donald
Trump from his perspective or the person against him constantly
just back and forth about each other's personalities and what

(29:40):
they have or have not accomplished, and that that they're
the worst or the best or all this stuff. There
wasn't a lot of that hyperbole either. Now I'm not
saying that these were the two best politicians and the
best debate that I have seen in a long time,
but it was as functional of a debate without the
personal attacks that I can remember in a long time.
You might have to go back to twenty twelve to

(30:01):
get to a debate that seemed to have a little
bit this level of civility, and there's something to be
said for that as well.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
We'll take more of your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
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