May 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Was Trump Wrong? War Rages On Between Ukraine & Russia.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got thoughts. There are a couple of different things
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that we can get to on this conversation I'm about
to open up. That is on Russia, Ukraine, Donald Trump
and the like, the like, all of the the back
and forth that seems to be happening here. If you
have thoughts, the easiest way for you to get to
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me is to go to Emory at kfab dot com,
Emory at kfab dot com, or you can go straight
to us through the phone line, and that's calling us
at four oh two five five eight eleven ten. That
is four oh two five five eight eleven ten. And
uh yeah, I'd love to hear what you have to
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say about where we're at here. Last week was it
the last Tuesday or Wednesday? I sat here and we
had just heard from Donald Trump about his two and
a half two hour phone call or whatever it was.
It was a long phone call, and this long phone
call was taking place with Vladimir Putin. Immediately after the
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call was over, Trump says that he called Zelenski and
he called a lot of European leadership, and he said
the tone was good. It sounds like Vladimir Putin is
ready and willing to play some ball here, and I
expressed quite a bit of skepticism to that. As much
as I would love to be optimistic about what's going
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on in the Middle East, just to revisit this feeling
that I had, I found myself more and more. If
you're Putin, why would you stop? What incentive has been
given to Vladimir Putin to decide to stop the attacking
on the Ukraine war? If you are taking your fifteen
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to twenty percent of the land that Ukraine has, and
they have it right now, and you know that if
you just keep the foot down on the pedal, even
if you lose some guys, which hasn't stopped Ladimir Putin
for three plus years now. But you're sitting there and
you're saying, you know what, I think, I think I
want the whole thing. What would it take for you
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to say, yeah, no, I'll stop it? Certainly isn't just
a phone call with a world leader. From from my perspective. Now,
let's get into where some of this ends up. And
for some reason, Donald Trump's true social account, at least
on my computer, is becoming very slow to load. I
don't know if there's an overload of people interested in
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reading all these true social posts, but alas I have
the original true social posts. As attacks were taking place
in Ukraine over the weekend. It's just a few days after.
Donald Trump said the tone was great. I think we
can work toward a ceasefire or in a peace agreement
if these countries really want to want to work together.
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Donald Trump said this, and I quote I've always had
a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia. But
something has happened to him. He has got on absolutely crazy.
He is needlessly killing a lot of people. And I'm
not just talking about soldiers. Missiles and drones are being
shot into cities in Ukraine for no reason whatsoever. I've
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always said that he wants all of Ukraine, not just
a piece of it, and maybe that's proving to be right.
But if he does, it will lead to the downfall
of Russia. Likewise, President Zelenski is doing his country no
favors by talking the way he does. Everything out of
his mouth causes problems. I don't like it, and it
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better stop. This is a war that would never have
started if I were president. This is Alenski's, Putin's and
Biden's war, not Trump's I am only helping to put
out the big and ugly fires that have been started
through gross incompetence and hatred. Well, that's the end quote.
That's the end here. And I suppose my biggest issue
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with all of this stuff is my growing and immediate
feeling in my gut here that there are many people
that are kind of and this includes some Trump supporters.
I'm sure we're tired of hearing that this war would
not have started under Trump. Okay, like I hear you.
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I We've heard it on thousand times that this war
wouldn't have started if Donald Trump was president in twenty
twenty two. Okay, but it did start. It's happening now.
There are some people who are out there in the
land of political rhetoric who are saying, Okay, this was
a campaign promise that Donald Trump made. He said that
there was a good chance that he was going to
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wrap this thing up, maybe even before he actually took
office after he was elected in November. Between then and
when he was inaugurated in January, was there going to
be movement toward getting to a peace agreement? He made
it sound like very quickly. It's one of the first
things that he'd do is to get that thing over with.
He would be ending that war and the war in Israel. Well,
it's been four months. We're waiting, right. That's the attitude
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of people on the political left, some people in the center.
There's some people on the right that I'm seeing. Okay,
So what's taking so long? What are we missing here?
Trump's also said that there's a possibility of additional sanctions.
There's a lot of different angles that I can continue
to conjure up here now again, for whatever it's words,
Zelensky yesterday posted this on his ex account and basically
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shine a light on America on Moorial Day. Wasn't addressing
Donald Trump specifically. He said, on Memorial Day, Ukraine expresses
its special gratitude to the United States and it's people.
We honor all generations of brave American men and women
in uniform who defended liberty at home, in Europe and
all over the world. He goes on. He finishes in saying,
we think all Americans who have supported us all along
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in our struggle for our cause, we will always remember
their support and we will always be grateful. Got a
lot of different things that you can take from this.
Zelensky yesterday also said over nine hundred attack drones launched
against Ukraine in just three days, along with ballistic and
cruise missiles. There is no military logic in this, but
it is a clear political choice for Russia, the choice
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to keep waging war. Recently a meeting was held in Istanbul.
Now the Russians are supposedly drafting proposals for a memorandum
on peace. They've already spent over a week on this.
But when in the midst of all that there are
constant Russian strikes, constant killings, relentless assaults, and even preparations
for new offensives, this is clearly a diagnosis. New and
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strong sanctions against Russia from the United States, from Europe
and from all those around the world who seek peace
will serve as a guaranteed means of forcing Russia not
only to cease fire, but also to show respect. Putin
must start respecting those he talks to. For now he
is simply playing games with diplomacy and with diplomats, that
must change. And as from Vladimir Zelensky on his ex
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account yesterday evening just an hour ago, he posted this
and again, I'm just trying to get to every last bit.
And if he would, you know, I would let the
audio play itself if it was English. But it's not.
Zelenski said this. This is within the last hour. I
held an extended meeting with the military leadership. The agenda
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includes planning our actions, readiness to respond to Russian strikes,
and taking preventative measures, which means increasing the production of
our own drones and missiles. We are also preparing new
agreements with our European partners in the near future to
attract investment into Ukrainian production. First and foremost, this means
the production of unmanned systems and long range capabilities, everything
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that allows us to maintain control on the front lines,
protect the lives of our warriors, and operate at significant distances.
The prospect is to respond symmetrically to all Russian threats.
They in Russia must feel the consequences of what they
are doing against Ukraine and they will end quote. That's
within the last hour now, for whatever it's worth. Russia
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called Trump's reaction to his Trump's reaction to the missiles
happening an emotional response and I don't know exactly how
we can do this, and to keep a straight face.
Let's be honest here. We know that Vladimir Putin has
had this capability to seemingly just have no self awareness
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about how the rest of the world is looking at him,
and all he wants to do, more than anything, is
to try to make himself seem as legitimate as possible. Unfortunately,
as much as this takes place, nobody seems to really
respect Putin, and every single thing tactically that he seems
to do just makes him further away from the Western
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civilization leadership that he so desperately seems like he wants
to be a part of. There are a lot of
people out there also that are saying to Donald Trump,
if you don't sanction him, he's never going to stop.
He is so deep into this. Why would he ever
stop us, not just Europe, but the United States as well.
Say okay, fine, that's it, more sanctions, no trade, good
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luck trying to win Ukraine, and if you do, congratulations,
you'll be shunned forever. I don't know how you can
do that. I don't know how long that would last.
Certainly things be unhealthy. Trump earlier today said what Vladimir
Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't for me,
lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia.
And I mean really bad. He's playing with fire. End quote. Okay,
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that is Donald Trump today. So a week ago we
were hearing about all of the great things that we're
hearing and seeing, and this is great that you know,
seems like Putin is changing his tone and as very positive,
and Trump says we are close to actually getting them
in the same room and having a chance to break
this down and have an agreement. And here we are
a week later. We are as far apart as it
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seems like we have been in some time. If you
have thoughts on this and what comes next, hit me
up four h two five five eight eleven ten. Four
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You also email Emery at kfab dot com. News Radio
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Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think Trump is finally realizing that Putin is trying
to humiliate him. You know that Trump wants to give
Putin whatever he wants, even talking about being a trading
partner and getting him back into the international groups of
Democratic nations all he needs mister Putin to make some
small confession, like you know, a bay of cease fire,
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or meet in person at Putin's like, oh, of course
ceespires and of all of our demands are met and
in person, Oh yeah, of course we talk. Of course,
my representatives can talk with you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Me.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh, I'm much too busy Donald to meet you with
you in person. And you know, a good dictator always
humiliates their subordinates because it shows everybody who's in charge.
And I think that's what Putin's trying to do. So
we'll see if Trump actually put city sanctions on him,
as he's said.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He will do.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, And Brian, I don't disagree with what you're saying here,
and this is certainly something that Putin wants. I don't
know if it's as much a humiliation, however, as it
is just him noticing that he's got the cards. He
has the cards more so than anyone else in conflict
right now, because he knows if he continues to amp
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up the offensives, Ukraine probably will fall without proper defense
from other countries, including the United States potentially. And I
don't know how you go back to the people and say, yeah,
I quit because the United States told me to. I
think he would feel embarrassed to his own people if
at this stage, three plus years in, he decides, Okay, yeah,
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Donald Trump told me to stop, so we decided to stop.
I think he's really got to get something real juicy
to decide, you know what. Okay, that actually does make
some sense, But the rest of it, I do tend't
agree with you on I don't think that, you know,
he sees Donald Trump. He wants Donald Trump to feel
like he's not He's not his boss. He's Donald Trump
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is not Putin's boss, and Putin's trying to let him
know that. There's no doubt about that. I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Go ahead, Yeah, Putin wants Trump to kneel to him,
not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, And I don't know what that looks like, because
you know Trump isn't going to do that. I appreciate
the call, Brian, thanks for listening to us and for
calling us today. I can't I can't dispute that. I
can't dispute the fact that there isn't some sort of
egotistical aspect to this. But I also just think that
if you're in the conflict. I wonder what it would
take for you to say, Okay, twenty percent of your
Crain's enough after three plus years for a guy like Putin,
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I just don't think that's enough, especially when he feels
like he would win if he kept the fighting going
regardless of what kind of sanctions were put against him.
Connor is on our phone line four h two five
five eight eleven ten. Welcome in Connor to eleven ten
kfab I.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Am riy, thanks for taking my call. You know the
thing I find interesting is, you know, during the campaign,
you know, Trump guaranteed he's going to end this thing
before he took office. Right when he took office, they
negotiated kind of this cease fire deal that everybody, including
a lot of your callers, who were like, hey, you
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got to give Trump credit. He's doing what he said
he was going to do. You know the thing that
I wonder are the Trump supporters at this point ever thinking,
you know, we've been had to some degree by this
guy's he's not able to do what he promised he
was going to do. And is I mean it's a
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guy finally starting to come away from the curtain and going, hey,
this guy isn't the greatest thing that everybody thought he was.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, Connor, I think the question is being asked on
this issue. I don't know how. There are certainly Republicans
that don't like what those was doing. I know Republicans
out there that don't like some of the moves that
are made to dismantle the Department of Education, stuff like that.
There are people who are Trump supporters or general Republicans
that have had issues with some of the stuff that's
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been taking place over the last four months. On this issue,
I feel like there's still a sector. I don't think
it's everybody, and I don't think people think that they
were had I just think that they may have underestimated
the impact tariffs would have on their like stock exchange
in their portfolios. They may have underestimated how much like
a Putin or even a Benjaminett and Yaho, Trump has
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a little bit of a voice to them, but he
doesn't have all of the voice to them.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And I think I understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, And I think I think there's a lot of
people that voted for Trump because he talked like, you know,
if he was in charge, he's going to get all
this to stop and it's just been more of a
challenge than that. So I don't think he's lied per se,
but he definitely led people down a road to thinking
that he could solve and fix this, and it's increasingly
looking like he's not going to be able to do
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it by himself.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
And I think he always says that, you know, the
world's on fire with with Biden, but you know, in
my estimation, the world is just as much on fire now,
and it might even be more on fire.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I guess, Connor. We'll see how the next few weeks go,
but certainly there are a lot of questions, even from
Trump supporters about exactly what's going to happen next in
this particular conflict. Appreciate the call today.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yep, no problem, all right, We'll take more calls. If
you're interested in being a part of the show. Do
you want to combat with Connor or Brian have had
to say? If you would like to bring a new
perspective to the show. I think this is an important
conversation to have. Four oh two, five to five at
eleven ten. Is the number four oh two, five to five,
eight to eleven ten. We'll continue this chat with you
on news Radio eleven ten kfab Emery Songer. One thing
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that we have been speaking on is that Donald Trump
is once again put out truth social posts saying that
Ladimir Putin isn't the same guy once knew keeps attacking Ukraine.
This is just a few days after he had said
that he thought that Nane made some progress in tone
and with intention. We will see exactly what comes next.
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But a lot of people who are saying, I wonder
if Trump's supporters are going out and you know, feeling
like he lied to them, or he doesn't have the
influence that he said he did on the campaign trail.
He said he was going to end these wars? Why
isn't he ending these wars? Well, if we've had a
couple of calls that said exactly that, let's go ahead
and get back to the phones. Four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. We have Joe on the line. Joe, welcome
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to the show. What are you thinking about today?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I'm responding to you and Connor. I don't feel hoodwinked
at all. It takes me about a half second to
say to myself, how bad would this war be? But
at this point if Trump had lost a lot covers
pretty much everything.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
All right, I appreciate you just.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Said another one hundred billion dollars of weapons that would
matter stat Putin, either you want a good outweigh from
bad that's going on four thousand miles away from us.
I'm glad you'll keep working on it. I hope you'll
do the sanctions. There's on least so much you can do.
When I'm mad Man and I'm talking about Putin.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I agree with all that too.
I think that most people, and I appreciate the Calle
Joe things for listening to us today. I agree with
everything you just said. I think that if you are
a true Trump supporter, it's not going to be all
perfect in four months. I don't know what the expectation
necessarily would be. I think the one thing that is
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a little bit back and forth mostly is how we
feel like we're making progress and then we're not. We're
meeting with uh, what's his face? Olensky in the White
House and then that blows up and we got on
the phone with Vladimir Putin and we feel pretty good
about it. Vladimir Putin talks to Zelenski or whatever. They
didn't talk directly to each other, but they suggested a
meeting in turkeya and they were supposed to meet and
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all of a sudden, putin, isn't there anymore? Okay? I
think that's probably most of the frustration from people. Well,
and how much of that has to do with Donald Trump,
I can't tell you that it does. I just know
what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing from some Trump
supporters that this was one thing that he campaigned hard on,
and from Trump opponents also, it's like, hey, do you
feel and this is what Joe mentioned Connor. Connor said
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that in his call too. He said straight up, how
many Trump supporters feel like this guy has hoodwinked them.
I don't think you could say that he's been hoodwinking
them on much of anything. I feel like maybe there
was a loot. We in America are so detached from
the fighting that's happening in Russia and Ukraine and in
Israel that I think we don't quite understand how much
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power or influence a president of the United States potentially
may have on foreign conflicts. Now again, I'm hearing Donald
Trump every time that he brings this war up. He
always cannot help himself but say that he it would
not have happened underneath him, and I understand that he
wants to get that message out there and saying this
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has no responsibility to me. I'm just trying to help
end it. I think we get the picture on that.
But I think he's also in some ways frustrated that
Putin isn't doing what he said he would do, or
that he thought Putin would do, or Zelenski is not
had in hand with the United States. He's kind of
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I wouldn't say rogue, because again, it's his country in
a war. But he's saying what he wants to say.
He's making his own videos in his own pleas to
his people and the people of Europe, and he's treating
the United States as another country that he would like
to be allied with. But he's not going hat in
hand and begging Donald Trump for anything, and that I
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think Donald Trump wasn't expecting that kind of attitude. That's
I think what the frustration is for the people who
voted for Trump, hoping this would end before it could
continue to escalate. There just seems a lot of start
and stop in a lot of conversations that we had
here about what our leadership chain would do for that conflict,
and for some reason it just hasn't taken. And a
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lot of it has to do with, like Joe mentioned,
Putin's a mad man. How do you reason with a
mad man, especially when you're this deep into a conflict.
He's not gonna want to quit unless he gets almost everything,
if not everything, that he wants, because he feels like
he could win what he wants if he just kept fighting.
What sanctions could you put on a guy like Putin
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to get him to stop at this point, that's a
huge thing. You got to put yourself in his shoes
about that. Now, let's get back to the phones here,
got more calls coming in four h two, five to
five eight. Eleven ten is the number Robert is on
the phone line. Robert, welcome into the show on eleven ten,
kfab Hi.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
You know Omar has a very famous person on the
name of Brandeis Brands said over one hundred years ago,
if you want to control things, just put out propaganda.
And we were great at it, and the Germans copyist.
It became even better. What we don't know when what
we don't see is Trump's got information is going to
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tear up the corruption that has been going on for
a long time. And the only defense they have is
to discredit demand because they can't discredit the facts or
that would expose them. And if you really listen to
what's going on, the exposure is there. But you have
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to listen. The guys who have done all the unconstitutional activity,
the judges, the senators, the representatives who have gone against constitution,
all they're going to be exposed. And all this stuff
with Putin's just distraction, all distraction. You ought to believe
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what's going on behind the scenes. After the summer of
the world and the election and election this fall, the
world in this country is going to change.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm with you, Robert. I appreciate the call. Thanks for
listening to our show today. Not to get overtly disagreeable
on this, because I don't want to be disagreeable. I
just want to have a good discussion. I don't think
that Robert is coming from a place of where he's wrong.
I just don't. I don't think that's what it is.
I don't think it's a distraction by any opponent of
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Trump to try to distract the American people from the
corruptions happening in the government. I just really think that
the Vladimir Putin wants to take over Ukraine and he
will not stop until he does. And we have maybe
overestimated the influence of the United States or our current
president may have on coercing Putin to get to the
table to negotiate a peace in an end to the
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war that seems to be And I don't think that
has anything to do with any of our own domestic politics.
I'll be honest with you. The more that it's like
we're seeing, maybe it wouldn't have stopped, or maybe it
wouldn't have started. Sorry, in twenty twenty two if Trump
was there and sanctions were threatened very very strongly when
those tanks were lining along the Ukrainian border before they
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went to cross US and started the war. But after
it started. This is geopolitical to that region. And I mean,
we could have RoboCop as our president with like missiles
firing from here directly in the Moscow and I'm not
one hundred percent sure that would get Vladimir Putin to
end this war. Right now, for whatever it's worth, Tony's
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on the phone line four two five five eight eleven ten. Tony,
welcome into eleven ten.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Kfab Hey, thank you, big fan.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
You know I was looking at when when when Trump
was first elected. I was listening to what he was
talking about, and I don't feel hoodweek because I never
believed it in the first place, could stop a war
in a couple of wars.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, Tony, Tony, you're kind of going in and out,
all right, Yeah, Tony, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you
on hold and I'm gonna come back after a break.
You're kind of you're fading in and out on me
a little bit. But we'll take Tony again and we'll
see if he's in a better spot for his reception,
and we'll have him make his point here. But I'm
interested to see what he said because he's like I
didn't believe everything he was saying in the first place.
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We will get to that in moments, and if you
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while he is the president the first time, calling him
a bit crazy, saying he's gone off the rails, and
saying he's playing with fire. Well, Russia is accusing Trump
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of being emotional about his response to what's going on
over the weekend with drone attacks on Ukraine and for
whatever Ukraine is saying. They're basically saying, look, we told
you this guy won't stop in I don't know, I
don't know what the next step would be. So we're
talking about it and how that is being viewed by
the people of this country that you know, even a
week after Donald Trump said he was optimistic that things
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were gonna turn for the better. Here we are right
back at scho what well, let's go back to Tony
here on a phone line for a two Tony, welcome
back to the show. What's on your Mind today?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Thank you? Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yes? Sir?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
All right? Hey, Like I said, you know, when campaigns
come out, you know, if you believe everything these guys
are telling you, then you're a fool. And I don't
care which side of the aisle you're on. You could
tell if one of your guys are beating yellow line
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of crap, because Jesus watched her mouth move right, So
I don't know. I don't feel hoodwinked because I never
thought he could do it in the first place. I
same with getting rid of all the illegal aliens doing
that task and as as easy as he made it sound,
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it would be, it's not going to be that easy.
You know. He's just got to give him a grain
of salt here, because Trump's very very.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Verbos Yeah, yeah, he says a lot of things. He's
very hyperbolic in the way that he talks. He talks
in extremes. You know, it's either the best or the worst,
or the fastest or the slowest, or this never would
have happened, or it would always would have happened or whatever.
And I'm with you. I mean, we have to kind
of discern some of that information, understanding that there's no
way everything that is said is coming out exactly correct
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or what the truth is. But Tony, it's good perspective.
I do appreciate the call today. I think you're listening
to us, you bet, carry on all right, this conversation
I think is important for us to deduce what the
next step is because there is a chance I think
Donald Trump throws his hands up and says, I can't
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I can with these guys anymore. Zelenski just keeps talking
and he won't listen to why I'm telling him to
shut up, and keeps on fire and missiles into Ukraine,
even though I'm telling him I'm gonna You know, if
you would stop, I would help him with trade and everything.
I'd give him a reason to stop. It's just not enough.
And I think Donald Trump is not used to this
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kind of combativeness with other nations. You know, the United States,
the United Kingdom, good good example here, able to come
to a trade agreement, announce a huge trade agreement, and
certainly more of those to come. Donald Trump celebrates. He's
Keir Starmer is a guy. He's more liberal than he
is conservative. But they work together to get something done
and work on a deal and something that both sides
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can go back to their people and say, look, this
is actually quite good for us. It's good for our
relationship with this country, and it's good for our people
to have a positive relationship. Some aren't working so well.
And you look at China, you look at the European
Union right now, you look at Russia, and you Craine.
I think that that's a perfect encapsulation of the lack
of control that we actually have when country he's aren't
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interested in having deals. Russia isn't running to the table
like wanting Donald Trump to shake Putin's hand, get the photo, op,
pats on the back, and everything's fine and dandy. If
that were the case, this thing would have been over
within the first week of Donald Trump's presidency. But that's
just not what would ended up happening. And I think
Putin has there's a lot of people in his ear
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that are saying, look, we are way too deep to
be taking some sort of half hearted deal that we
feel okay about when we know we're winning the war.
And I think if you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat,
if you're an independent voter in this country, and you're
interested in seeing what Donald Trump could do with foreign
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relations in moments of crisis, you're really going to see
what his metal is made of here over the next
month or so, as he attempts to still be bringing
those two countries to the table together when he doesn't
overly get a along with either of them at this point,
and he can't figure out how to get through to
Zelenski to stop talking and get through to Putin to say, look,
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you're ruining your country by doing this. If you have thoughts,
I'd love to hear from you. Four oh two five, five,
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I got thoughts. There are a couple of different things
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that we can get to on this conversation I'm about
to open up. That is on Russia, Ukraine, Donald Trump
and the like, the like, all of the the back
and forth that seems to be happening here. If you
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uh yeah, I'd love to hear what you have to
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say about where we're at here. Last week was it
the last Tuesday or Wednesday? I sat here and we
had just heard from Donald Trump about his two and
a half two hour phone call or whatever it was.
It was a long phone call, and this long phone
call was taking place with Vladimir Putin. Immediately after the
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call was over, Trump says that he called Zelenski and
he called a lot of European leadership, and he said
the tone was good. It sounds like Vladimir Putin is
ready and willing to play some ball here, and I
expressed quite a bit of skepticism to that. As much
as I would love to be optimistic about what's going
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on in the Middle East, just to revisit this feeling
that I had, I found myself more and more. If
you're Putin, why would you stop? What incentive has been
given to Vladimir Putin to decide to stop the attacking
on the Ukraine war? If you are taking your fifteen
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to twenty percent of the land that Ukraine has, and
they have it right now, and you know that if
you just keep the foot down on the pedal, even
if you lose some guys, which hasn't stopped Ladimir Putin
for three plus years now. But you're sitting there and
you're saying, you know what, I think, I think I
want the whole thing. What would it take for you
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to say, yeah, no, I'll stop it? Certainly isn't just
a phone call with a world leader. From from my perspective. Now,
let's get into where some of this ends up. And
for some reason, Donald Trump's true social account, at least
on my computer, is becoming very slow to load. I
don't know if there's an overload of people interested in
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reading all these true social posts, but alas I have
the original true social posts. As attacks were taking place
in Ukraine over the weekend. It's just a few days after.
Donald Trump said the tone was great. I think we
can work toward a ceasefire or in a peace agreement
if these countries really want to want to work together.
(02:52):
Donald Trump said this, and I quote I've always had
a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia. But
something has happened to him. He has got on absolutely crazy.
He is needlessly killing a lot of people. And I'm
not just talking about soldiers. Missiles and drones are being
shot into cities in Ukraine for no reason whatsoever. I've
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always said that he wants all of Ukraine, not just
a piece of it, and maybe that's proving to be right.
But if he does, it will lead to the downfall
of Russia. Likewise, President Zelenski is doing his country no
favors by talking the way he does. Everything out of
his mouth causes problems. I don't like it, and it
(03:35):
better stop. This is a war that would never have
started if I were president. This is Alenski's, Putin's and
Biden's war, not Trump's I am only helping to put
out the big and ugly fires that have been started
through gross incompetence and hatred. Well, that's the end quote.
That's the end here. And I suppose my biggest issue
(03:58):
with all of this stuff is my growing and immediate
feeling in my gut here that there are many people
that are kind of and this includes some Trump supporters.
I'm sure we're tired of hearing that this war would
not have started under Trump. Okay, like I hear you.
(04:19):
I We've heard it on thousand times that this war
wouldn't have started if Donald Trump was president in twenty
twenty two. Okay, but it did start. It's happening now.
There are some people who are out there in the
land of political rhetoric who are saying, Okay, this was
a campaign promise that Donald Trump made. He said that
there was a good chance that he was going to
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wrap this thing up, maybe even before he actually took
office after he was elected in November. Between then and
when he was inaugurated in January, was there going to
be movement toward getting to a peace agreement? He made
it sound like very quickly. It's one of the first
things that he'd do is to get that thing over with.
He would be ending that war and the war in Israel. Well,
it's been four months. We're waiting, right. That's the attitude
(05:04):
of people on the political left, some people in the center.
There's some people on the right that I'm seeing. Okay,
So what's taking so long? What are we missing here?
Trump's also said that there's a possibility of additional sanctions.
There's a lot of different angles that I can continue
to conjure up here now again, for whatever it's words,
Zelensky yesterday posted this on his ex account and basically
(05:28):
shine a light on America on Moorial Day. Wasn't addressing
Donald Trump specifically. He said, on Memorial Day, Ukraine expresses
its special gratitude to the United States and it's people.
We honor all generations of brave American men and women
in uniform who defended liberty at home, in Europe and
all over the world. He goes on. He finishes in saying,
we think all Americans who have supported us all along
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in our struggle for our cause, we will always remember
their support and we will always be grateful. Got a
lot of different things that you can take from this.
Zelensky yesterday also said over nine hundred attack drones launched
against Ukraine in just three days, along with ballistic and
cruise missiles. There is no military logic in this, but
it is a clear political choice for Russia, the choice
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to keep waging war. Recently a meeting was held in Istanbul.
Now the Russians are supposedly drafting proposals for a memorandum
on peace. They've already spent over a week on this.
But when in the midst of all that there are
constant Russian strikes, constant killings, relentless assaults, and even preparations
for new offensives, this is clearly a diagnosis. New and
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strong sanctions against Russia from the United States, from Europe
and from all those around the world who seek peace
will serve as a guaranteed means of forcing Russia not
only to cease fire, but also to show respect. Putin
must start respecting those he talks to. For now he
is simply playing games with diplomacy and with diplomats, that
must change. And as from Vladimir Zelensky on his ex
(06:54):
account yesterday evening just an hour ago, he posted this
and again, I'm just trying to get to every last bit.
And if he would, you know, I would let the
audio play itself if it was English. But it's not.
Zelenski said this. This is within the last hour. I
held an extended meeting with the military leadership. The agenda
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includes planning our actions, readiness to respond to Russian strikes,
and taking preventative measures, which means increasing the production of
our own drones and missiles. We are also preparing new
agreements with our European partners in the near future to
attract investment into Ukrainian production. First and foremost, this means
the production of unmanned systems and long range capabilities, everything
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that allows us to maintain control on the front lines,
protect the lives of our warriors, and operate at significant distances.
The prospect is to respond symmetrically to all Russian threats.
They in Russia must feel the consequences of what they
are doing against Ukraine and they will end quote. That's
within the last hour now, for whatever it's worth. Russia
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called Trump's reaction to his Trump's reaction to the missiles
happening an emotional response and I don't know exactly how
we can do this, and to keep a straight face.
Let's be honest here. We know that Vladimir Putin has
had this capability to seemingly just have no self awareness
(08:22):
about how the rest of the world is looking at him,
and all he wants to do, more than anything, is
to try to make himself seem as legitimate as possible. Unfortunately,
as much as this takes place, nobody seems to really
respect Putin, and every single thing tactically that he seems
to do just makes him further away from the Western
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civilization leadership that he so desperately seems like he wants
to be a part of. There are a lot of
people out there also that are saying to Donald Trump,
if you don't sanction him, he's never going to stop.
He is so deep into this. Why would he ever
stop us, not just Europe, but the United States as well.
Say okay, fine, that's it, more sanctions, no trade, good
(09:07):
luck trying to win Ukraine, and if you do, congratulations,
you'll be shunned forever. I don't know how you can
do that. I don't know how long that would last.
Certainly things be unhealthy. Trump earlier today said what Vladimir
Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't for me,
lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia.
And I mean really bad. He's playing with fire. End quote. Okay,
(09:29):
that is Donald Trump today. So a week ago we
were hearing about all of the great things that we're
hearing and seeing, and this is great that you know,
seems like Putin is changing his tone and as very positive,
and Trump says we are close to actually getting them
in the same room and having a chance to break
this down and have an agreement. And here we are
a week later. We are as far apart as it
(09:51):
seems like we have been in some time. If you
have thoughts on this and what comes next, hit me
up four h two five five eight eleven ten. Four
h two five five eight eleven ten is that number?
You also email Emery at kfab dot com. News Radio
eleven ten Kfab Emriesung on news radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think Trump is finally realizing that Putin is trying
to humiliate him. You know that Trump wants to give
Putin whatever he wants, even talking about being a trading
partner and getting him back into the international groups of
Democratic nations all he needs mister Putin to make some
small confession, like you know, a bay of cease fire,
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or meet in person at Putin's like, oh, of course
ceespires and of all of our demands are met and
in person, Oh yeah, of course we talk. Of course,
my representatives can talk with you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Me.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh, I'm much too busy Donald to meet you with
you in person. And you know, a good dictator always
humiliates their subordinates because it shows everybody who's in charge.
And I think that's what Putin's trying to do. So
we'll see if Trump actually put city sanctions on him,
as he's said.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
He will do.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, And Brian, I don't disagree with what you're saying here,
and this is certainly something that Putin wants. I don't
know if it's as much a humiliation, however, as it
is just him noticing that he's got the cards. He
has the cards more so than anyone else in conflict
right now, because he knows if he continues to amp
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up the offensives, Ukraine probably will fall without proper defense
from other countries, including the United States potentially. And I
don't know how you go back to the people and say, yeah,
I quit because the United States told me to. I
think he would feel embarrassed to his own people if
at this stage, three plus years in, he decides, Okay, yeah,
(11:45):
Donald Trump told me to stop, so we decided to stop.
I think he's really got to get something real juicy
to decide, you know what. Okay, that actually does make
some sense, But the rest of it, I do tend't
agree with you on I don't think that, you know,
he sees Donald Trump. He wants Donald Trump to feel
like he's not He's not his boss. He's Donald Trump
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is not Putin's boss, and Putin's trying to let him
know that. There's no doubt about that. I do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Go ahead, Yeah, Putin wants Trump to kneel to him,
not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, And I don't know what that looks like, because
you know Trump isn't going to do that. I appreciate
the call, Brian, thanks for listening to us and for
calling us today. I can't I can't dispute that. I
can't dispute the fact that there isn't some sort of
egotistical aspect to this. But I also just think that
if you're in the conflict. I wonder what it would
take for you to say, Okay, twenty percent of your
Crain's enough after three plus years for a guy like Putin,
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I just don't think that's enough, especially when he feels
like he would win if he kept the fighting going
regardless of what kind of sanctions were put against him.
Connor is on our phone line four h two five
five eight eleven ten. Welcome in Connor to eleven ten
kfab I.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Am riy, thanks for taking my call. You know the
thing I find interesting is, you know, during the campaign,
you know, Trump guaranteed he's going to end this thing
before he took office. Right when he took office, they
negotiated kind of this cease fire deal that everybody, including
a lot of your callers, who were like, hey, you
(13:13):
got to give Trump credit. He's doing what he said
he was going to do. You know the thing that
I wonder are the Trump supporters at this point ever thinking,
you know, we've been had to some degree by this
guy's he's not able to do what he promised he
was going to do. And is I mean it's a
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guy finally starting to come away from the curtain and going, hey,
this guy isn't the greatest thing that everybody thought he was.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, Connor, I think the question is being asked on
this issue. I don't know how. There are certainly Republicans
that don't like what those was doing. I know Republicans
out there that don't like some of the moves that
are made to dismantle the Department of Education, stuff like that.
There are people who are Trump supporters or general Republicans
that have had issues with some of the stuff that's
(14:04):
been taking place over the last four months. On this issue,
I feel like there's still a sector. I don't think
it's everybody, and I don't think people think that they
were had I just think that they may have underestimated
the impact tariffs would have on their like stock exchange
in their portfolios. They may have underestimated how much like
a Putin or even a Benjaminett and Yaho, Trump has
(14:28):
a little bit of a voice to them, but he
doesn't have all of the voice to them.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And I think I understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, And I think I think there's a lot of
people that voted for Trump because he talked like, you know,
if he was in charge, he's going to get all
this to stop and it's just been more of a
challenge than that. So I don't think he's lied per se,
but he definitely led people down a road to thinking
that he could solve and fix this, and it's increasingly
looking like he's not going to be able to do
(14:55):
it by himself.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
And I think he always says that, you know, the
world's on fire with with Biden, but you know, in
my estimation, the world is just as much on fire now,
and it might even be more on fire.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I guess, Connor. We'll see how the next few weeks go,
but certainly there are a lot of questions, even from
Trump supporters about exactly what's going to happen next in
this particular conflict. Appreciate the call today.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yep, no problem, all right, We'll take more calls. If
you're interested in being a part of the show. Do
you want to combat with Connor or Brian have had
to say? If you would like to bring a new
perspective to the show. I think this is an important
conversation to have. Four oh two, five to five at
eleven ten. Is the number four oh two, five to five,
eight to eleven ten. We'll continue this chat with you
on news Radio eleven ten kfab Emery Songer. One thing
(15:43):
that we have been speaking on is that Donald Trump
is once again put out truth social posts saying that
Ladimir Putin isn't the same guy once knew keeps attacking Ukraine.
This is just a few days after he had said
that he thought that Nane made some progress in tone
and with intention. We will see exactly what comes next.
(16:05):
But a lot of people who are saying, I wonder
if Trump's supporters are going out and you know, feeling
like he lied to them, or he doesn't have the
influence that he said he did on the campaign trail.
He said he was going to end these wars? Why
isn't he ending these wars? Well, if we've had a
couple of calls that said exactly that, let's go ahead
and get back to the phones. Four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. We have Joe on the line. Joe, welcome
(16:27):
to the show. What are you thinking about today?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I'm responding to you and Connor. I don't feel hoodwinked
at all. It takes me about a half second to
say to myself, how bad would this war be? But
at this point if Trump had lost a lot covers
pretty much everything.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
All right, I appreciate you just.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Said another one hundred billion dollars of weapons that would
matter stat Putin, either you want a good outweigh from
bad that's going on four thousand miles away from us.
I'm glad you'll keep working on it. I hope you'll
do the sanctions. There's on least so much you can do.
When I'm mad Man and I'm talking about Putin.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I agree with all that too.
I think that most people, and I appreciate the Calle
Joe things for listening to us today. I agree with
everything you just said. I think that if you are
a true Trump supporter, it's not going to be all
perfect in four months. I don't know what the expectation
necessarily would be. I think the one thing that is
(17:31):
a little bit back and forth mostly is how we
feel like we're making progress and then we're not. We're
meeting with uh, what's his face? Olensky in the White
House and then that blows up and we got on
the phone with Vladimir Putin and we feel pretty good
about it. Vladimir Putin talks to Zelenski or whatever. They
didn't talk directly to each other, but they suggested a
meeting in turkeya and they were supposed to meet and
(17:53):
all of a sudden, putin, isn't there anymore? Okay? I
think that's probably most of the frustration from people. Well,
and how much of that has to do with Donald Trump,
I can't tell you that it does. I just know
what I'm seeing and what I'm hearing from some Trump
supporters that this was one thing that he campaigned hard on,
and from Trump opponents also, it's like, hey, do you
feel and this is what Joe mentioned Connor. Connor said
(18:16):
that in his call too. He said straight up, how
many Trump supporters feel like this guy has hoodwinked them.
I don't think you could say that he's been hoodwinking
them on much of anything. I feel like maybe there
was a loot. We in America are so detached from
the fighting that's happening in Russia and Ukraine and in
Israel that I think we don't quite understand how much
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power or influence a president of the United States potentially
may have on foreign conflicts. Now again, I'm hearing Donald
Trump every time that he brings this war up. He
always cannot help himself but say that he it would
not have happened underneath him, and I understand that he
wants to get that message out there and saying this
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has no responsibility to me. I'm just trying to help
end it. I think we get the picture on that.
But I think he's also in some ways frustrated that
Putin isn't doing what he said he would do, or
that he thought Putin would do, or Zelenski is not
had in hand with the United States. He's kind of
(19:22):
I wouldn't say rogue, because again, it's his country in
a war. But he's saying what he wants to say.
He's making his own videos in his own pleas to
his people and the people of Europe, and he's treating
the United States as another country that he would like
to be allied with. But he's not going hat in
hand and begging Donald Trump for anything, and that I
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think Donald Trump wasn't expecting that kind of attitude. That's
I think what the frustration is for the people who
voted for Trump, hoping this would end before it could
continue to escalate. There just seems a lot of start
and stop in a lot of conversations that we had
here about what our leadership chain would do for that conflict,
and for some reason it just hasn't taken. And a
(20:04):
lot of it has to do with, like Joe mentioned,
Putin's a mad man. How do you reason with a
mad man, especially when you're this deep into a conflict.
He's not gonna want to quit unless he gets almost everything,
if not everything, that he wants, because he feels like
he could win what he wants if he just kept fighting.
What sanctions could you put on a guy like Putin
(20:25):
to get him to stop at this point, that's a
huge thing. You got to put yourself in his shoes
about that. Now, let's get back to the phones here,
got more calls coming in four h two, five to
five eight. Eleven ten is the number Robert is on
the phone line. Robert, welcome into the show on eleven ten,
kfab Hi.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
You know Omar has a very famous person on the
name of Brandeis Brands said over one hundred years ago,
if you want to control things, just put out propaganda.
And we were great at it, and the Germans copyist.
It became even better. What we don't know when what
we don't see is Trump's got information is going to
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tear up the corruption that has been going on for
a long time. And the only defense they have is
to discredit demand because they can't discredit the facts or
that would expose them. And if you really listen to
what's going on, the exposure is there. But you have
(21:23):
to listen. The guys who have done all the unconstitutional activity,
the judges, the senators, the representatives who have gone against constitution,
all they're going to be exposed. And all this stuff
with Putin's just distraction, all distraction. You ought to believe
(21:46):
what's going on behind the scenes. After the summer of
the world and the election and election this fall, the
world in this country is going to change.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm with you, Robert. I appreciate the call. Thanks for
listening to our show today. Not to get overtly disagreeable
on this, because I don't want to be disagreeable. I
just want to have a good discussion. I don't think
that Robert is coming from a place of where he's wrong.
I just don't. I don't think that's what it is.
I don't think it's a distraction by any opponent of
(22:15):
Trump to try to distract the American people from the
corruptions happening in the government. I just really think that
the Vladimir Putin wants to take over Ukraine and he
will not stop until he does. And we have maybe
overestimated the influence of the United States or our current
president may have on coercing Putin to get to the
table to negotiate a peace in an end to the
(22:36):
war that seems to be And I don't think that
has anything to do with any of our own domestic politics.
I'll be honest with you. The more that it's like
we're seeing, maybe it wouldn't have stopped, or maybe it
wouldn't have started. Sorry, in twenty twenty two if Trump
was there and sanctions were threatened very very strongly when
those tanks were lining along the Ukrainian border before they
(22:59):
went to cross US and started the war. But after
it started. This is geopolitical to that region. And I mean,
we could have RoboCop as our president with like missiles
firing from here directly in the Moscow and I'm not
one hundred percent sure that would get Vladimir Putin to
end this war. Right now, for whatever it's worth, Tony's
(23:19):
on the phone line four two five five eight eleven ten. Tony,
welcome into eleven ten.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Kfab Hey, thank you, big fan.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
You know I was looking at when when when Trump
was first elected. I was listening to what he was
talking about, and I don't feel hoodweek because I never
believed it in the first place, could stop a war
in a couple of wars.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, Tony, Tony, you're kind of going in and out,
all right, Yeah, Tony, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you
on hold and I'm gonna come back after a break.
You're kind of you're fading in and out on me
a little bit. But we'll take Tony again and we'll
see if he's in a better spot for his reception,
and we'll have him make his point here. But I'm
interested to see what he said because he's like I
didn't believe everything he was saying in the first place.
(24:11):
We will get to that in moments, and if you
want to call in, you can four h two five
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news radio eleven ten KFA Brie plenty of chats with
while he is the president the first time, calling him
a bit crazy, saying he's gone off the rails, and
saying he's playing with fire. Well, Russia is accusing Trump
(24:33):
of being emotional about his response to what's going on
over the weekend with drone attacks on Ukraine and for
whatever Ukraine is saying. They're basically saying, look, we told
you this guy won't stop in I don't know, I
don't know what the next step would be. So we're
talking about it and how that is being viewed by
the people of this country that you know, even a
week after Donald Trump said he was optimistic that things
(24:56):
were gonna turn for the better. Here we are right
back at scho what well, let's go back to Tony
here on a phone line for a two Tony, welcome
back to the show. What's on your Mind today?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Thank you? Can you hear me now?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yes? Sir?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
All right? Hey, Like I said, you know, when campaigns
come out, you know, if you believe everything these guys
are telling you, then you're a fool. And I don't
care which side of the aisle you're on. You could
tell if one of your guys are beating yellow line
(25:33):
of crap, because Jesus watched her mouth move right, So
I don't know. I don't feel hoodwinked because I never
thought he could do it in the first place. I
same with getting rid of all the illegal aliens doing
that task and as as easy as he made it sound,
(25:57):
it would be, it's not going to be that easy.
You know. He's just got to give him a grain
of salt here, because Trump's very very.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Verbos Yeah, yeah, he says a lot of things. He's
very hyperbolic in the way that he talks. He talks
in extremes. You know, it's either the best or the worst,
or the fastest or the slowest, or this never would
have happened, or it would always would have happened or whatever.
And I'm with you. I mean, we have to kind
of discern some of that information, understanding that there's no
way everything that is said is coming out exactly correct
(26:31):
or what the truth is. But Tony, it's good perspective.
I do appreciate the call today. I think you're listening
to us, you bet, carry on all right, this conversation
I think is important for us to deduce what the
next step is because there is a chance I think
Donald Trump throws his hands up and says, I can't
(26:51):
I can with these guys anymore. Zelenski just keeps talking
and he won't listen to why I'm telling him to
shut up, and keeps on fire and missiles into Ukraine,
even though I'm telling him I'm gonna You know, if
you would stop, I would help him with trade and everything.
I'd give him a reason to stop. It's just not enough.
And I think Donald Trump is not used to this
(27:14):
kind of combativeness with other nations. You know, the United States,
the United Kingdom, good good example here, able to come
to a trade agreement, announce a huge trade agreement, and
certainly more of those to come. Donald Trump celebrates. He's
Keir Starmer is a guy. He's more liberal than he
is conservative. But they work together to get something done
and work on a deal and something that both sides
(27:37):
can go back to their people and say, look, this
is actually quite good for us. It's good for our
relationship with this country, and it's good for our people
to have a positive relationship. Some aren't working so well.
And you look at China, you look at the European
Union right now, you look at Russia, and you Craine.
I think that that's a perfect encapsulation of the lack
of control that we actually have when country he's aren't
(28:00):
interested in having deals. Russia isn't running to the table
like wanting Donald Trump to shake Putin's hand, get the photo, op,
pats on the back, and everything's fine and dandy. If
that were the case, this thing would have been over
within the first week of Donald Trump's presidency. But that's
just not what would ended up happening. And I think
Putin has there's a lot of people in his ear
(28:22):
that are saying, look, we are way too deep to
be taking some sort of half hearted deal that we
feel okay about when we know we're winning the war.
And I think if you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat,
if you're an independent voter in this country, and you're
interested in seeing what Donald Trump could do with foreign
(28:44):
relations in moments of crisis, you're really going to see
what his metal is made of here over the next
month or so, as he attempts to still be bringing
those two countries to the table together when he doesn't
overly get a along with either of them at this point,
and he can't figure out how to get through to
Zelenski to stop talking and get through to Putin to say, look,
(29:08):
you're ruining your country by doing this. If you have thoughts,
I'd love to hear from you. Four oh two five, five,
eight eleven ten. There's still more where that came from
if you want to continue this conversation four oh two
five five, eight eleven ten
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