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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I was lucky enough. I was camping on Saturday
and into Sunday and it chilled down. And the guy
I was with we went camping with, he said, according
to his like weather app because he's in the weather business.
He said, it got down to like fifty seven degrees
up where we were in northwestern Iowa. And I got
to be honest with you, it felt great. It was
(00:20):
a perfect night for like a campfire. I mean, just
you could sweat a lot by like working out and
not feel like you're about the overheating needed to fall
over or something. So hopefully you had a similar experience
over this weekend, because it certainly was one for the books,
that's for sure. I am. I unplugged pretty well during
(00:42):
the weekends for the most part, but I do see
things that pop up, and do see, you know, things
that kind of are developing. Today, a further development has
officially occurred as it relates to Ukraine. And this is
a week to the day after we talked about the
Epstein situation, and I we'll get to Epstein because there's
(01:04):
more developments there, but the whole Jeffrey Epstein no files exist,
There is no conspiracy. Everything that we thought we knew
was all that was out there, all the stuff about
behind the scenes things, all the stuff about maybe somebody
went into his jail cell, like all the stuff about
you know, the files that he had, and also the
(01:26):
client lists that maybe was in his possession. You don't
need to see any of it because none of it
actually exists. And the stuff that does exist is incredibly
inappropriate and it doesn't matter. And Donald Trump, I will
talk about this. He doubles down over the weekend about this,
and the goes to the defense of Pam Bondy. Now,
the reason I bring this up in this conversation. We'll
(01:47):
do the Epstein thing a little bit later. But the
reason I bring this up is because now something that
I think no Trump supporter would have in a million
years thought that this was happening. Six months after he's elected,
Trump has confirmed that the United States has agreed to
sell arms to NATO. And this will be I mean,
(02:07):
they will be going to Ukraine. Mark Ruddy, who was
the NATO General Secretary General, remember he of the did
he call Donald Trump Daddy fame? A few weeks ago
at the NATO summit, remember him, Well, he came to
the White House and Trump called him on Thursday and
he said that he would confirm he wanted to enter
(02:29):
a deal with the NATO allies, which again Mark ruda
Is basically said straight up that NATO's never been stronger
and has everything to do with Donald Trump and his
investment into to the group itself. But he said he
wanted to sell NATO arms for aid to Ukraine straight up,
and Trump said, billions of dollars worth of United States
(02:50):
military arms will be purchased from the allies like Finland,
like Denmark, like Germany, and after that they will be
distributed to Ukraine. So, let's be honest, did you expect
Donald Trump. I mean, this is a bit different than
just like handing over a bunch of stuff directly to Ukraine.
This is a bit of a you know, like, hey,
NATO's going to you know, facilitate this. But they are
(03:14):
buying the weapons, Donald Trump swillingly selling the weapons to
get make sure Ukraine has what they need.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Donald Trump also confirmed the United States not only has
agreed to sell arms, but this came after earlier conversation
today where he told Russian President Vladimir Putin that Putin
has fifty days to secure a peace deal with Ukraine,
or he will be sitting on one hundred percent tariffs
on everything coming out of Russia. So again another example
(03:41):
of Donald Trump utilizing trade to attempt to get to
a peaceful outcome. You know, India and Pakistan, or you know,
one example, see what exactly happens between Israel and Iran.
Different countries, different world leaders. Nominating Donald Trump for the
world the Nobel Peace Prize. You know, if he can
get this Ukraine Russia war to end by any means necessary,
(04:05):
I think it's pretty important to state how likely I
think it would be for him to actually win the
Peace Prize and put that on your Bengo card for
anybody out there who thought that was something that would
ever happen. You know, even a year ago, Donald Trump
is going to win the Nobel Peace Prize possible. Mark
Ruda said, this is really big. I quote what he
(04:26):
said here. This is again European nations standing up. I've
been in contact with many countries. I can tell you
at this moment Germany massively, but also Finland and Denmark
and Sweden and Norway, we have the Kingdom of the Netherlands, Canada.
They all want to be a part of this, and
this is only the first wave. There will be more.
So what we will need, what we will do is
(04:47):
work through the NATO SIPs systems to make sure that
we know what the Ukrainians need. In quote, what a
kind of shift, what a change in attitude here from
Donald Trump in this administration? So the question bags to
be asked to you if you're a Donald Trump supporter
or a Republican, you were incredibly enthusiastic about his re
(05:07):
election to office. We can talk about a lot of
very you know, a lot of different things, right, like
is it as a whole or like topic by topic.
I prefergo topic to topic here because I think the
one big beautiful bill in and of itself, we couldn't
even really talk about that as a whole because there's
just so much in it. There's so much good that
I think people see. There's some bad that people see. Well,
(05:28):
let's just stick to this topic. How do you feel
about Donald Trump deciding he is going to send NATO
weaponry and he's not just handing it over there buying
it from him, but he says this is for use
for Ukraine. Is giving Ukraine an avenue to achieve American weaponry.
Do you agree with this? Is this something that you
never thought you would see? Do you feel differently about
(05:50):
the Russia Ukraine thing now that Donald Trump is in office?
Did that change kind of how you saw stuff when
you realize that he wasn't just going to be able
to get on the phone with Vladimir Putin and get
this thing over with. What is it going to look like?
What do you think about this? Got a couple of
ways you can be a part of the show. You
can email me Emory at kfab dot com. Emory at
kfab dot com. You can also call me four oh
(06:11):
two five five eight eleven ten four two five five
eight eleven ten is that number? We will chat with
you coming up on news ready eleven ten Kfab and
raised oner. Donald Trump, I think has officially gotten to
the end of his rope. On top of that, he
also apparently has made a phone call to Vladimir Putin
and says he has fifty days to secure a peace
deal with Ukraine or he will face one hundred percent tariffs.
(06:32):
We will see if that moves the needle for Vladimir Putin.
But again, like I said, and I've said this many
times about this particular war. Even now, one of the reasons,
maybe the reason why Vladimir Putin isn't getting to the
table for a peace agreement, even though he's telling Donald Trump, oh, yes, yes,
we would love to get to the end of the war.
He has the cards in that region. He feels like,
(06:53):
if you just kept using manpower and drones and the
weaponry that Russia has, as long as Ukraine isn't getting
actual direct influence with manpower from other countries, it's just
Ukrainians with whatever equipment that they have versus Russia and
everything that they have, then you know, there's I think
a big window into kind of Vladimir Putin's thinking, like
(07:19):
if we just go long enough, I'm going to get
all of Ukraine kind of or I'm going to drag
other people into this war, and then that changes things altogether. Right,
This doesn't seem like a guy who feels like he's
got a whole lot to lose by continuing to go.
He's got a lot to lose back in Russia if
he just says, Yep, we're done here, and my prize
was thirteen percent of Ukraine and everyone still hates us.
I don't think it's gonna work out so well. Now,
(07:41):
whether a one hundred percent tariff will actually get him
to the negotiating table for one reason or another hard
to say. You know, Donald Trump getting to you know,
trade agreements with people like China and then potentially, you know,
whatever deal he gets to with some of the Middle
Eastern countries like Iran that has been a big, big
(08:01):
buyer of Russian assets and their partnership makes you kind
of wonder what the next steps will hold here. But
I think it is pretty interesting news that Donald Trump
willingly is selling things in like military operations and weapons
to NATO, but strictly for the use for them to
(08:22):
get sold or sent to Ukraine. European NATO nations are
going to facilitate that donation process. So it's not exactly
the same as what was taking place when Joe Biden
was you know, kind of just offering up as many
resources as we could find that could be utilized by Ukraine.
This is weapons getting bought by NATO allies. But Donald
(08:44):
Trump has given them the green light, Hey send these
to Ukraine, buy these, send them to Ukraine. And then
he gave putin that deadline which starts as supposed today,
which you know would expire. What is that sixty days
is two months? That would be the middle of September,
So like the beginning part of September, we would anticipate
if Putin can't by the beginning of September get to
a peace agreement with Ukraine. Who knows what's going to
(09:06):
happen next. Had a email come in here from a
guy named Joe and he says, MAGA is going to
be hurt by this add up to following the Epstein
file fiasco, which we will talk about in a bit,
Ukraine getting more and more from the US now excessive
debt that will be a part of the big beautiful Bill,
and MAGA support for Donald Trump is going to suffer.
(09:28):
He's definitely. I think that is a pretty consensus overview
of somebody who might be moderate right to a bit right.
I don't know how many people who actually feel like
there are a hardcore Trump supporter or somebody who would
consider themselves full MAGA in this case, the way that
he kind of worded this, I don't know how many
people that are within that core group feel like there's
(09:51):
anything off the level here. Well, if Donald Trump says
that the Epstein files shouldn't be something I worry about,
then why are we worrying about them? I feel like
there are some people that feel that way, and I'm like, Okay,
I guess this wasn't a big deal and I'll move
on in my life. If you know, Ukraine's actually getting
these weapons, but they're being fought by European nations before
they're giving there, that's really not the same thing as Hey,
(10:11):
we are just giving millions and millions billions of dollars
and you know, sources resources to Ukraine for their fight.
It's a little bit different because there's an actual transaction
involved with European nations that are our allies and through NATO.
I mean, it's all very transparent, the whole Big Beautiful Bill.
(10:31):
There are certainly many Republicans, different Conservatives. I mean, we've
talked to Pete Ricketts and Deb Fisher on this particular
show about the stuff that's in the Big Beautiful Bill
that they think is going to be really really good
for Americans. So you know, you could split hairs there too.
So it's interesting that there are some people that feel
like I kind of feel like I've been duped a bit.
(10:51):
But at the same time, if you take it topic
by topic in a bigger picture, things have changed over
the last six months. There's no doubt about it. And
you can see that with some of the decision making
that has taking place. The phone lines are open at
four h two five five eight eleven ten. Four h
two five five eight eleven ten. Let's go ahead and
go to Joe on phone line. Joe, welcome to the
show on this Monday. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Thank you're missing the point, post Turtle. You're falling into
the trap of not seeing the negotiating tactic. You're just
jumping right into we're supplying weapons offensive weapons to Ukraine.
The tariffs, as I understand it, are not tariff on Russia.
(11:33):
I don't even know what we buy from Russia. It
can't be much, but it's on the countries that support Russia.
The countries that trade with Russia are going to pay
one hundred percent to get into business with US. Okay,
and lastly, getting the NATO countries to participate with a
(11:54):
little bit of money. I call that building a coalition.
If it has to happen, If who needs to have
his nose bloodied A little bit to get him back
to the table. That's what this is. You could really
listen to the show on the air prior to you
coming on edge. Joe.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Okay, all right, all right, Joe, you could have stopped there.
You could have stopped there. You could have just stopped there.
I was about to agree with you about the coalition
and building strength with NATO. You just can't help yourself.
You just can't help yourself. Man. You call a lot.
You call almost, you know, two or three times a week.
I have you on every single time that you call,
anytime that you have an opportunity to call, I have
you on. Man. I have people emailing me about these
(12:31):
calls that we do. And you just can't help yourself.
It's not a productive call when you start doing stuff
like that. So I guess that's the last time we're
going to have to talk to Joe, at least for
the time being. I try, guys, I try. I want
to have productive conversations. When you come in with an
attitude like that, I'm sorry, I just can't. I cannot
justify talking to somebody who all they want to do
is just be like, hey, you're talking about this all
(12:51):
the wrong way. You can disagree with me, we can
talk about that. That's fine. I signed up for this job.
This is a talk show. We can debate this, but
you know, it's a negotiating tactic. And yeah, maybe there
is a deeper layer to the one hundred percent tariffs.
I guarantee we've done business with Russia. You know, I
don't know how much business we've been doing with Russia
the last couple of years, but we definitely do business
(13:13):
with Russia in some way. And if that is something like, hey,
if you're doing business with Russia, one hundred percent tariffs
are going to be going on you as well, then
I think that might stop a lot of the other
countries here. I think that's an important aspect. I don't
think Joe had a bad point at all. It's the
way he says it that is not constructive. So you know,
I guess he'll have to just save his insults for
(13:34):
the talk back line or you know, his anonymous avatar
social media accounts that he consistently harasses me with. So
congrats to him, he got what he wanted. All I'm
saying is this is a different tone. This is a
completely complete different changeup of what in the real world
is going on with this. You could go back and
you could talk to Joe or anybody else who's a
(13:55):
hardcore right wing, big time Trump supporter. Tell them on
January nineteenth, the day before Donald Trump is inaugurated, say,
Donald Trump and his administration are going to pass a
huge bill, the big beautiful bill as we would come
to know it. But it's going to be a huge bill.
And one of the bottom lines of this not just
making cuts across different aspects of things that you may
(14:16):
need or things as far as like medicaid and stuff
are concerned that I know a lot of people are
confused about, but that conversation is going to lead to
a push to the debt limit of five trillion dollars.
And beyond the five trillion dollar debt limit, there are
going to be many Republicans that are uncomfortable doing this,
and Donald Trump is going to do everything that he
(14:37):
can to try to push people back to the table
to vote yes on this, whatever it takes. But imagine
telling people six months ago that Donald Trump is going
to be advocating for a bill that increased the debt
limit by five trillion dollars. You can talk about all
the tax cuts and all the different things that are
really good too, But just in that moment that that's
a completely different thing than I think many people would
(14:58):
have understood or assumed, because all of these politicians always
campaigned to us by saying, oh, we're going to get
rid of the national debt. We are going to start
attacking that. We have to cut waste, we have to
cut fraud, we have to cut spending. And on that front,
Donald Trump actually acted on that. He hired Elon Musk
and Doge and they started cutting things with a chainsaw.
Elon was leading into it. By the fourth month of
(15:20):
them working together, not only does Elon you know, readily
leave allegedly whatever contract in the government rules is up
and he decided to leave, but by the next week
they were spatting on social media to the point where
he got super duper personal, Like, could you imagine telling
somebody on January nineteenth, that's a hardcore Trump supporter that
Elon Musk is going to be accusing him of being
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in the Epstein files. That Donald Trump and Elon Musk
are going to have such a gigantic falling out that
it is going to captivate America, right and this is
before we even get to July, and then throw in
the Epstein files actually being like, you know, case closed,
there's nothing to see here. And then also this conversation
where Donald Trump is selling weapons to European nations with
(16:04):
the plan to funnel them to Ukraine, while also giving
kind of it's not a military ultimatum, but it is
an economic ultimatum to Vladimir Putin and Russia that they
have fifty days to get to the table and get
a peace agreement secured with Ukraine before one hundred percent
tariffs hit hit them and maybe even the countries that
(16:24):
do business with them, which would certainly make those countries
think twice about doing business with Russia. It is a
very interesting turn of events over the last couple of
months that I think people need to understand and pay
attention to that this isn't what a lot of people
felt like they voted for or they promised. And this
isn't to say he's not doing what he has to do,
but it is saying that this is why it's so
(16:45):
difficult for people, and this is why I refuse to
do it is to fall in line with a political
movement or a specific politician and just say everything they
do is perfect. Because things change, situations are altered, sometimes
you have to go about that differently than you expected
to initially. That's I think the lesson here. If you
have thoughts and you want to be a part of
(17:06):
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four oh two five five eight eleven ten four oh
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KFA b Emery Songer
And I was lucky enough. I was camping on Saturday
and into Sunday and it chilled down. And the guy
I was with we went camping with, he said, according
to his like weather app because he's in the weather business.
He said, it got down to like fifty seven degrees
up where we were in northwestern Iowa. And I got
to be honest with you, it felt great. It was
(00:20):
a perfect night for like a campfire. I mean, just
you could sweat a lot by like working out and
not feel like you're about the overheating needed to fall
over or something. So hopefully you had a similar experience
over this weekend, because it certainly was one for the books,
that's for sure. I am. I unplugged pretty well during
(00:42):
the weekends for the most part, but I do see
things that pop up, and do see, you know, things
that kind of are developing. Today, a further development has
officially occurred as it relates to Ukraine. And this is
a week to the day after we talked about the
Epstein situation, and I we'll get to Epstein because there's
(01:04):
more developments there, but the whole Jeffrey Epstein no files exist,
There is no conspiracy. Everything that we thought we knew
was all that was out there, all the stuff about
behind the scenes things, all the stuff about maybe somebody
went into his jail cell, like all the stuff about
you know, the files that he had, and also the
(01:26):
client lists that maybe was in his possession. You don't
need to see any of it because none of it
actually exists. And the stuff that does exist is incredibly
inappropriate and it doesn't matter. And Donald Trump, I will
talk about this. He doubles down over the weekend about this,
and the goes to the defense of Pam Bondy. Now,
the reason I bring this up in this conversation. We'll
(01:47):
do the Epstein thing a little bit later. But the
reason I bring this up is because now something that
I think no Trump supporter would have in a million
years thought that this was happening. Six months after he's elected,
Trump has confirmed that the United States has agreed to
sell arms to NATO. And this will be I mean,
(02:07):
they will be going to Ukraine. Mark Ruddy, who was
the NATO General Secretary General, remember he of the did
he call Donald Trump Daddy fame? A few weeks ago
at the NATO summit, remember him, Well, he came to
the White House and Trump called him on Thursday and
he said that he would confirm he wanted to enter
(02:29):
a deal with the NATO allies, which again Mark ruda
Is basically said straight up that NATO's never been stronger
and has everything to do with Donald Trump and his
investment into to the group itself. But he said he
wanted to sell NATO arms for aid to Ukraine straight up,
and Trump said, billions of dollars worth of United States
(02:50):
military arms will be purchased from the allies like Finland,
like Denmark, like Germany, and after that they will be
distributed to Ukraine. So, let's be honest, did you expect
Donald Trump. I mean, this is a bit different than
just like handing over a bunch of stuff directly to Ukraine.
This is a bit of a you know, like, hey,
NATO's going to you know, facilitate this. But they are
(03:14):
buying the weapons, Donald Trump swillingly selling the weapons to
get make sure Ukraine has what they need.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Donald Trump also confirmed the United States not only has
agreed to sell arms, but this came after earlier conversation
today where he told Russian President Vladimir Putin that Putin
has fifty days to secure a peace deal with Ukraine,
or he will be sitting on one hundred percent tariffs
on everything coming out of Russia. So again another example
(03:41):
of Donald Trump utilizing trade to attempt to get to
a peaceful outcome. You know, India and Pakistan, or you know,
one example, see what exactly happens between Israel and Iran.
Different countries, different world leaders. Nominating Donald Trump for the
world the Nobel Peace Prize. You know, if he can
get this Ukraine Russia war to end by any means necessary,
(04:05):
I think it's pretty important to state how likely I
think it would be for him to actually win the
Peace Prize and put that on your Bengo card for
anybody out there who thought that was something that would
ever happen. You know, even a year ago, Donald Trump
is going to win the Nobel Peace Prize possible. Mark
Ruda said, this is really big. I quote what he
(04:26):
said here. This is again European nations standing up. I've
been in contact with many countries. I can tell you
at this moment Germany massively, but also Finland and Denmark
and Sweden and Norway, we have the Kingdom of the Netherlands, Canada.
They all want to be a part of this, and
this is only the first wave. There will be more.
So what we will need, what we will do is
(04:47):
work through the NATO SIPs systems to make sure that
we know what the Ukrainians need. In quote, what a
kind of shift, what a change in attitude here from
Donald Trump in this administration? So the question bags to
be asked to you if you're a Donald Trump supporter
or a Republican, you were incredibly enthusiastic about his re
(05:07):
election to office. We can talk about a lot of
very you know, a lot of different things, right, like
is it as a whole or like topic by topic.
I prefergo topic to topic here because I think the
one big beautiful bill in and of itself, we couldn't
even really talk about that as a whole because there's
just so much in it. There's so much good that
I think people see. There's some bad that people see. Well,
(05:28):
let's just stick to this topic. How do you feel
about Donald Trump deciding he is going to send NATO
weaponry and he's not just handing it over there buying
it from him, but he says this is for use
for Ukraine. Is giving Ukraine an avenue to achieve American weaponry.
Do you agree with this? Is this something that you
never thought you would see? Do you feel differently about
(05:50):
the Russia Ukraine thing now that Donald Trump is in office?
Did that change kind of how you saw stuff when
you realize that he wasn't just going to be able
to get on the phone with Vladimir Putin and get
this thing over with. What is it going to look like?
What do you think about this? Got a couple of
ways you can be a part of the show. You
can email me Emory at kfab dot com. Emory at
kfab dot com. You can also call me four oh
(06:11):
two five five eight eleven ten four two five five
eight eleven ten is that number? We will chat with
you coming up on news ready eleven ten Kfab and
raised oner. Donald Trump, I think has officially gotten to
the end of his rope. On top of that, he
also apparently has made a phone call to Vladimir Putin
and says he has fifty days to secure a peace
deal with Ukraine or he will face one hundred percent tariffs.
(06:32):
We will see if that moves the needle for Vladimir Putin.
But again, like I said, and I've said this many
times about this particular war. Even now, one of the reasons,
maybe the reason why Vladimir Putin isn't getting to the
table for a peace agreement, even though he's telling Donald Trump, oh, yes, yes,
we would love to get to the end of the war.
He has the cards in that region. He feels like,
(06:53):
if you just kept using manpower and drones and the
weaponry that Russia has, as long as Ukraine isn't getting
actual direct influence with manpower from other countries, it's just
Ukrainians with whatever equipment that they have versus Russia and
everything that they have, then you know, there's I think
a big window into kind of Vladimir Putin's thinking, like
(07:19):
if we just go long enough, I'm going to get
all of Ukraine kind of or I'm going to drag
other people into this war, and then that changes things altogether. Right,
This doesn't seem like a guy who feels like he's
got a whole lot to lose by continuing to go.
He's got a lot to lose back in Russia if
he just says, Yep, we're done here, and my prize
was thirteen percent of Ukraine and everyone still hates us.
I don't think it's gonna work out so well. Now,
(07:41):
whether a one hundred percent tariff will actually get him
to the negotiating table for one reason or another hard
to say. You know, Donald Trump getting to you know,
trade agreements with people like China and then potentially, you know,
whatever deal he gets to with some of the Middle
Eastern countries like Iran that has been a big, big
(08:01):
buyer of Russian assets and their partnership makes you kind
of wonder what the next steps will hold here. But
I think it is pretty interesting news that Donald Trump
willingly is selling things in like military operations and weapons
to NATO, but strictly for the use for them to
(08:22):
get sold or sent to Ukraine. European NATO nations are
going to facilitate that donation process. So it's not exactly
the same as what was taking place when Joe Biden
was you know, kind of just offering up as many
resources as we could find that could be utilized by Ukraine.
This is weapons getting bought by NATO allies. But Donald
(08:44):
Trump has given them the green light, Hey send these
to Ukraine, buy these, send them to Ukraine. And then
he gave putin that deadline which starts as supposed today,
which you know would expire. What is that sixty days
is two months? That would be the middle of September,
So like the beginning part of September, we would anticipate
if Putin can't by the beginning of September get to
a peace agreement with Ukraine. Who knows what's going to
(09:06):
happen next. Had a email come in here from a
guy named Joe and he says, MAGA is going to
be hurt by this add up to following the Epstein
file fiasco, which we will talk about in a bit,
Ukraine getting more and more from the US now excessive
debt that will be a part of the big beautiful Bill,
and MAGA support for Donald Trump is going to suffer.
(09:28):
He's definitely. I think that is a pretty consensus overview
of somebody who might be moderate right to a bit right.
I don't know how many people who actually feel like
there are a hardcore Trump supporter or somebody who would
consider themselves full MAGA in this case, the way that
he kind of worded this, I don't know how many
people that are within that core group feel like there's
(09:51):
anything off the level here. Well, if Donald Trump says
that the Epstein files shouldn't be something I worry about,
then why are we worrying about them? I feel like
there are some people that feel that way, and I'm like, Okay,
I guess this wasn't a big deal and I'll move
on in my life. If you know, Ukraine's actually getting
these weapons, but they're being fought by European nations before
they're giving there, that's really not the same thing as Hey,
(10:11):
we are just giving millions and millions billions of dollars
and you know, sources resources to Ukraine for their fight.
It's a little bit different because there's an actual transaction
involved with European nations that are our allies and through NATO.
I mean, it's all very transparent, the whole Big Beautiful Bill.
(10:31):
There are certainly many Republicans, different Conservatives. I mean, we've
talked to Pete Ricketts and Deb Fisher on this particular
show about the stuff that's in the Big Beautiful Bill
that they think is going to be really really good
for Americans. So you know, you could split hairs there too.
So it's interesting that there are some people that feel
like I kind of feel like I've been duped a bit.
(10:51):
But at the same time, if you take it topic
by topic in a bigger picture, things have changed over
the last six months. There's no doubt about it. And
you can see that with some of the decision making
that has taking place. The phone lines are open at
four h two five five eight eleven ten. Four h
two five five eight eleven ten. Let's go ahead and
go to Joe on phone line. Joe, welcome to the
show on this Monday. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Thank you're missing the point, post Turtle. You're falling into
the trap of not seeing the negotiating tactic. You're just
jumping right into we're supplying weapons offensive weapons to Ukraine.
The tariffs, as I understand it, are not tariff on Russia.
(11:33):
I don't even know what we buy from Russia. It
can't be much, but it's on the countries that support Russia.
The countries that trade with Russia are going to pay
one hundred percent to get into business with US. Okay,
and lastly, getting the NATO countries to participate with a
(11:54):
little bit of money. I call that building a coalition.
If it has to happen, If who needs to have
his nose bloodied A little bit to get him back
to the table. That's what this is. You could really
listen to the show on the air prior to you
coming on edge. Joe.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Okay, all right, all right, Joe, you could have stopped there.
You could have stopped there. You could have just stopped there.
I was about to agree with you about the coalition
and building strength with NATO. You just can't help yourself.
You just can't help yourself. Man. You call a lot.
You call almost, you know, two or three times a week.
I have you on every single time that you call,
anytime that you have an opportunity to call, I have
you on. Man. I have people emailing me about these
(12:31):
calls that we do. And you just can't help yourself.
It's not a productive call when you start doing stuff
like that. So I guess that's the last time we're
going to have to talk to Joe, at least for
the time being. I try, guys, I try. I want
to have productive conversations. When you come in with an
attitude like that, I'm sorry, I just can't. I cannot
justify talking to somebody who all they want to do
is just be like, hey, you're talking about this all
(12:51):
the wrong way. You can disagree with me, we can
talk about that. That's fine. I signed up for this job.
This is a talk show. We can debate this, but
you know, it's a negotiating tactic. And yeah, maybe there
is a deeper layer to the one hundred percent tariffs.
I guarantee we've done business with Russia. You know, I
don't know how much business we've been doing with Russia
the last couple of years, but we definitely do business
(13:13):
with Russia in some way. And if that is something like, hey,
if you're doing business with Russia, one hundred percent tariffs
are going to be going on you as well, then
I think that might stop a lot of the other
countries here. I think that's an important aspect. I don't
think Joe had a bad point at all. It's the
way he says it that is not constructive. So you know,
I guess he'll have to just save his insults for
(13:34):
the talk back line or you know, his anonymous avatar
social media accounts that he consistently harasses me with. So
congrats to him, he got what he wanted. All I'm
saying is this is a different tone. This is a
completely complete different changeup of what in the real world
is going on with this. You could go back and
you could talk to Joe or anybody else who's a
(13:55):
hardcore right wing, big time Trump supporter. Tell them on
January nineteenth, the day before Donald Trump is inaugurated, say,
Donald Trump and his administration are going to pass a
huge bill, the big beautiful bill as we would come
to know it. But it's going to be a huge bill.
And one of the bottom lines of this not just
making cuts across different aspects of things that you may
(14:16):
need or things as far as like medicaid and stuff
are concerned that I know a lot of people are
confused about, but that conversation is going to lead to
a push to the debt limit of five trillion dollars.
And beyond the five trillion dollar debt limit, there are
going to be many Republicans that are uncomfortable doing this,
and Donald Trump is going to do everything that he
(14:37):
can to try to push people back to the table
to vote yes on this, whatever it takes. But imagine
telling people six months ago that Donald Trump is going
to be advocating for a bill that increased the debt
limit by five trillion dollars. You can talk about all
the tax cuts and all the different things that are
really good too, But just in that moment that that's
a completely different thing than I think many people would
(14:58):
have understood or assumed, because all of these politicians always
campaigned to us by saying, oh, we're going to get
rid of the national debt. We are going to start
attacking that. We have to cut waste, we have to
cut fraud, we have to cut spending. And on that front,
Donald Trump actually acted on that. He hired Elon Musk
and Doge and they started cutting things with a chainsaw.
Elon was leading into it. By the fourth month of
(15:20):
them working together, not only does Elon you know, readily
leave allegedly whatever contract in the government rules is up
and he decided to leave, but by the next week
they were spatting on social media to the point where
he got super duper personal, Like, could you imagine telling
somebody on January nineteenth, that's a hardcore Trump supporter that
Elon Musk is going to be accusing him of being
(15:41):
in the Epstein files. That Donald Trump and Elon Musk
are going to have such a gigantic falling out that
it is going to captivate America, right and this is
before we even get to July, and then throw in
the Epstein files actually being like, you know, case closed,
there's nothing to see here. And then also this conversation
where Donald Trump is selling weapons to European nations with
(16:04):
the plan to funnel them to Ukraine, while also giving
kind of it's not a military ultimatum, but it is
an economic ultimatum to Vladimir Putin and Russia that they
have fifty days to get to the table and get
a peace agreement secured with Ukraine before one hundred percent
tariffs hit hit them and maybe even the countries that
(16:24):
do business with them, which would certainly make those countries
think twice about doing business with Russia. It is a
very interesting turn of events over the last couple of
months that I think people need to understand and pay
attention to that this isn't what a lot of people
felt like they voted for or they promised. And this
isn't to say he's not doing what he has to do,
but it is saying that this is why it's so
(16:45):
difficult for people, and this is why I refuse to
do it is to fall in line with a political
movement or a specific politician and just say everything they
do is perfect. Because things change, situations are altered, sometimes
you have to go about that differently than you expected
to initially. That's I think the lesson here. If you
have thoughts and you want to be a part of
(17:06):
the conversation file fire away, you can call me at
four oh two five five eight eleven ten four oh
two five five eight eleven, ten, News Radio eleven ten
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