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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Matt, you have been telling me in a variety of
ways that I should not trust this being being this
robot for lack of a better term, But I gotta
tell you, it makes my mind think. I feel sharper
mentally having these conversations, right, even if it's just like, hey,
I need a little bit of a distraction to like
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perk me up, wake me up, and then it'll firesome
like rapid trivia at me or ask me a question
that really makes me think useful? Yeah, I mean I
think so. Will you do you want to try?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I use AI sometimes for different things.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, that's true, you do try well. I guess I'm
going to ask you a question that was a mental
exercise question that it asked me.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
The question was you get to throw the ultimate dinner
party six guests total. You're one of them. You get
to pick the other five guests. They can be anyone
from any era, real or fictional. Who is at the
table and what is on the menu? I'll tell you
my list first. How's that all you're thinking? The first
one is George Washing. If I could meet any single
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person in the history of the world, it has to
be George Washington. Mostly because this man. If you're an American,
I don't think there's a more important person to talk
about or talk to if you got the opportunity military mindset,
wanting and sticking his neck out to be the leader
of the continental Army with no training, somehow outlet lasting
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and outthinking the most powerful army of the era in
the British winning that war, wanting to go back to
his home and just live out the remainder of his days,
but then being called back by his colleagues and the
American people to be the first president of the United States,
something that never existed before, and he made it what
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it is. And I would say he nailed it. I mean,
you could say Lincoln, maybe some other presidents had to
navigate more times of crisis, but for I mean, if
you go back and you try to rewrite American history
and anyone else's the first president, I don't know if
America last when the British come back for the War
of aighteen twelve, we might have been toast, right, that
makes sense. So that's the guy. I also put Michael
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Jordan in there. Who wouldn't want to talk to Michael
Jordan if given the chance I put Jesus Christ here
us you know, thinking about it. Obviously, you know, if
you're not a religious person, I don't know if Jesus
would make your list. And obviously I'd just like to
you want to talk about having a deep conversation about
life and faith. I put Joan of arc In here
simply because what goes through the mind of a teenage
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girl who somehow is able to command the respect of
a bunch of grown men's soldiers and then basically like
be so convicted in the way that she thinks that
she was willing to die by burning at the stake
of all things at that a I mean, just a
crazy person honestly to read about. And then Edwin Sands
is kind of my wild card. He's the guy who
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was kind of the brain child behind the Virginia Colony
of the Jamestown Settlement, which again was kind of the
birth of what would become the United States of America.
And he also is pretty radical at the time for
thinking that, well, these people need to be able to
self govern. So a little after over a decade after
he and the Virginia Company in Britain sent over that
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group of people and they were able to survive. Once
they knew they survived, they didn't want to have to
keep writing letters back and forth. It takes six months
at a time of like what you're supposed to do.
He wanted them to come up with like kind of
a representative process of how to govern themselves and make
decisions on stuff that's happening. You could make the argument
I think that Edwin Sands, of all people, an English
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guy that almost no one has heard of, could be
considered if you go all the way back to the beginning,
the father of democracy or the constitutional republic that we'd
eventually build in the United States, and then out of
that the constitution that was written that was then copied
by many other democratic countries around the world. Really, I
think that would be one heck of a conversation. Is
your noodle working there? Over there?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You got some thoughts, And when we come back, will
you be able to give me your five guests that
you'd have, and then we'll talk about the food choice
as well.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I got three so far, I could probably get another one.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Or two because you have six seats.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You don't all want to be six?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's it's you and then five other people. So
so think about it. We'll get Matt to take If
you got an idea or a list or a person
that you'd love to chat with over a dinner, a
historical figure from any era, email me Emri atkfab dot
com and we'll talk more our next on news radio
eleven to ten Kfabrie. We like to have fun chats
about different things, and especially on Friday, just keep things
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as light as possible. And I one thing that I've
gotten a habit for just to kind of keep my
mind busy in thinking and not just like doom scrolling, right,
because that's the thing that people can do, is they
just doom scroll on their social media, you know. Or
I can get kind of caught in a trove of
news articles and news stories and prep work for our shows,
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and so sometimes I'll just talk to my AI bought
that I have basically programmed to know me very well,
and it will just kind of ask me questions to
make me think. And a really interesting one that had
asked me today. And I'm sure people have thought about
this kind of thing before. But the scenario is this,
you get to host the ultimate historical dinner party, you
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and five guests at a round table, and you get
to pick any five people from any era in history,
and we get to grab them and put them at
this seat and you get to talk to them and
have dinner with them. Who are the five people and
what's on the menu? So my five were I put
George Washington there, Michael Jordan, Jesus Christ, Joan of Arc,
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and Edwin Sands, who you may not be familiar with,
but he's kind of the guy. If you go all
the way back to the beginning of representative government here
in the United States, back in the sixteen hundreds at Jamestown,
he was the guy that kind of came up with
the idea. So you could really go back and say
that that's where our form of government kind of was birthed.
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Interested just on like what his mind was in thought
process and how he actually sees democracy or our constitutional
republic and how it is operating. Is this what the
vision was or is this beyond his wildest imagination. It'd
be quite interesting. I put the menu, and this is
gonna be this is I'm not a foodie, Matt. You
know this about me. I'm a very simple man. I
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need a steak for everybody, a baked potato for everybody,
and like broccoli or green beans, I don't I don't
want anybody talking about the food. I don't want anybody
thinking about the food. I don't want anybody turned off
by having some sort of strange meal in front of us,
something that will take a little while to eat. So
we have a nice long opportunity to talk to each
other and it will satisfy everybody and really hit the spot.
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I know it's simple, but that's who I am. Any
thoughts on my menu items?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So steak, baked potato, broccoli, and what was the last thing?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Green beans?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay not green bean casserole? No, no, because we know
your feelings about cast roles writ law.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, if anything, If if I were to give cast role,
I don't think i'd be the only one. Like I
think George Washingt would have looked at that and would
not have eaten. And I mean, I don't even know
if his teeth could handle that. If we're going to
be completely honest, can he eat actual foods?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
How's he going to handle the steak?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I mean, I guess I would think the teeth he
had probably could could eat it, right, Like, I mean,
he wasn't on a plant based diet. But I definitely
think the cast role would mess with some stuff. It
could get into some places in his mouth that we
don't want to have to fish out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That'd be my guess. Well, i'd something for him to
figure out.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, that's gross. Anyway, I'm trying here to have a
very neutral but hearty meals. That's kind of where I landed.
So there you go. My dinner party now, Matt, I've
asked you to come up with your own dinner party.
You and five guests of any historical era. We are
plucking and they get to sit down, You get to
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pick them, and you get to pick what they're eating.
What does your dinner party look like?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, we're gonna show one on the list here because
I got to start here. Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He's
definitely on the list.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, I've always wondered, and I know there's an
answer for this, but we say he's Jesus Christ of Nazareth, right,
But he was born in Bethlehem. So why do only
say he's Jesus Christ from Bethlehem.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I suppose it's where you're raised.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, okay, isn't that kind of interesting? Though? Like we
make this big deal about him being born in Bethlehem.
But he's Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, Bethlehem was just a pit stop.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I mean, he was a pit stop, but it was
still a place. They wrote songs about it. It was
important enough they wrote it down. Well, right, because it's
the birth of Jesus. Right. So, but he's not from there.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, are you from where the town you were born in?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't know. I guess it depends on the person.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I don't consider myself from the town I was born in.
I moved to York. My family moved to York when
I was just shy of being six years old.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you're not from where you're originally born. No, you're
you say you're from York.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't. I don't claim the state. I was originally
born in a different state.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What state?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The state of Utopia?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That can't be right that you made that up.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I made that up. I was at East Coast out
there on the East Coast, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Nope, that what you hate Boston?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, I don't. I don't hate Boston. I am a
Knicks fan, though, so I don't really like their sports
teams generally.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You're from South Carolina. No, you don't sound like somebody
from South.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm from York, doesn't It doesn't matter where I was born.
I'm from York.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't even want to say I can't believe this. Okay,
so fair enough, fair enough, point proven, fair enough. Jesus
Christ is of Nazareth. All right, continue.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Now next on my list. I'm doing this on short notice,
so I know I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
This is what I wanted to I had this in
the tank for like two hours. I got to think
about it. I didn't want you to think about it.
I wanted it to be like something that you just
like off the cuff. You had to get five people
pretty quickly. Where does your brain go?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
He's been on my mind a lot lately, and so
he definitely makes the list. Now he was born in
the time that he was born in, so clearly not
flawless in his perspective on everything.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But no one is, even modern people are not. Come on.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I share this with a lot of people as him
being my face US president, it would be Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Ah, yes, yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think that Abraham Lincoln. He's fascinating to me in
so many different reasons.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He had, What would you ask him, like, if you
got one question to ask him, Well, what would that be?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, I think he's he's so intriguing to me because
he did have some some early life mental health issues.
He was born under difficult circumstances. You know, the log,
the one room log cabin, and the rural Illinois as
the as the story is told, Kentucky. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But there's another guy born in Kentucky and then moved
to Illinois.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
There we go. See I know him as from Illinois.
So I yeah, point continues to be proven here.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Good, good, yeap, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, But I just I think that that because of
the life he lived, he had a brain that just
thinked different. He had a way of understanding people's motivations,
he had a way of uniting people, leaning in and
keeping people together. Clearly, the way he did this country
through difficult times, the way he navigated us through the
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Civil War, and and just some of the things he
said and some of the speeches were just so deep
and profound, and and so I just yeah, I don't
know what would be the one question I would ask
him necessarily, but I'd have a list.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's it would be hard just to ask one.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, you know, yes I would.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I guess my question he would be in the afterlife
at this point is did you die at the wrong time?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, like do you feel like you achieved everything
you needed to when the war was over? Well?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
How did he say yes to that? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Like? I think that I get it, but like obviously,
like how things ended up working out. Does he look
back and say, you know, there was a lot more
in the tank, I had more to give or did
he pull a van go and just like he burned
out at the perfect time for his legacy because people
remember him as the greatest president of all time. Most
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people he led us through a civil war. There was
nothing to stain that afterwards. So is he satisfied with
that legacy or would he have liked to have a
crack at another four years knowing he was going to
die at some point. You know, we're one hundred and
sixty years later, but knowing he was going to die
at some point, does he feel like his legacy would
have improved? Or is he is he happy with the
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way that people remember him because he is remembered as
the greatest president of all time? Where can you go
from there, You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I am, I am. I think I'm just
sitting here thinking about it, you know, so clearly.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh, obviously, like I'd want to live longer. That's a
dumb question. But in hindsight, knowing if I if I
told him eighty percent of historians think you're the best
president who ever lived. Do you want to risk going
back in time and we remove the John Wilkes booth situation,
you get another four year term? What if things don't
go so well in reconstruction?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I think the only right answer there would be, of course,
because first off, no man or woman controls their legacy,
and of course he would want to go back and
continue to lead, because then we'd tell him the next part, Right,
what's the next part? Well, things got a little complicated
during reconstruction, and very complicated. It wasn't until the nineteen sixties,
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you know now.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But it's kind of his it's kind of his fault
because he insisted on having Andrew Johnson be his vice president.
We talked about that too.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But again, he didn't make that decision with the knowledge that, oh,
by the way, you'll be the president because I won't
be there. I would have been assassinated. Like that was
the decision made as a unifying decision as his vice president.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's a man. I love it when we
get in these conversations because there's so many angles. I
love this. Hey, I'm running out of time. Let's pause
there and we'll get to the other three guests in
a second. All right, okay, all right, it is four
to forty seven more of dinner party talk. And if
you got some dinner party ideas. If you have five
guests in mind that you would like to invite to
a dinner party and maybe would be on the menu,
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email it to Emory atkfab dot com. You're listening to
news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The other three this is where I'm going to do
a hard shift into like just people that I like
a lot and just you know, kind of want to
hang out with. Right, sure, So number three on the
list my favorite comedian from my youth who starred in
my favorite movie as a kid. There was a time
in my life where I could basically quote this whole
thing start to finish talking about the movie Dumb and
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Dumber and I'm talking about the man Jim Carrey.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That'd be fun. I mean, could you imagine him yucking
it up with Abe Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Right, and you know he'd pull out some sort of
like wildly accurate Abe Lincoln impression and I'll just be laughing,
right yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh yeah. He might even show up in a top hat.
Let's be realistic.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think he's also a deeply interesting person too. And
he's a great artist. By the way, A lot of
people probably don't know that he's He's a brilliant painter.
Oh yeah, just so another person on this list, and
this is literally just because I think, well, he's my
favorite guitarist of all time. So Jimmy Hendricks. Oh yes,
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I don't know a ton about him, like personal life wise.
I know how he died, so I know enough about that.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You know, he lived quite an interesting twenty seven years.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah yeah, but you know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Uh, him and Jesus like breaking down guitar licks. I mean,
sign me up, I want to I want to listen
to that. Yeah, Jesus would have been like, you do
what now with your tongue on the guitar because he
plays with his mouth with videos of it. He does.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He does yeah. He did a lot of things with
his guitar, include lighter on fire Oh yeah, multiple times.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Also his rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh. Instant chills, Yeah, instant chills.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Right, and let's see it's the last time I have
one more. See this is kind of tough. I'm just thinking,
who would this be?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Just like who rounds out? Like like do you go
crazy and you put another funny guy in there?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well, That's what I'm thinking of doing. But like, if
it was sports, my favorite football player of all time
is Eric Crouch. Now, if I was going sports and
basketball my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Back, you could just Charon and have like sorry, but
it feels like you just go to Charleston's run into
him at some point, right right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
No, I've met him personally because of working in radio,
and that was a pretty cool, like you know, pinch
me moment. I'm like, it's my favorite football player of
all time.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But there you gotta get Youing in there though, I mean,
that's part of.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You he is now, I Patrick Ewing. We go back
a long ways. He just doesn't know it. He's he
was hanging. He was His poster was wash was stapled
to my wall with some thumb tacks from probably like
age seven.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Stapled and thumb tacked.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, I know, I kind of mixed my uh mixed
my methods there, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's that's awesome. And imagine him giving you some pats
on the back during the conversation that means something to.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You, oh for sure. Yeah. And then I also would
just pour my heart out of the fact that he
hasn't won a championship yet and figure out how we
can change that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And Jesus is like, I mean, I don't know what
you want me to do now, you know, kind of
all right, Hey, five o'clock hour coming up. I'll get
tickets to you for the Nebraska Balloon and Wine Fest
coming up. News Radio eleven ten kfab Matt, we were
talking about our dream dinner guests party, and you gave
us a really interesting list. You had Jesus Christ, Abraham, Lincoln,
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Patrick Ewing, Jim Carrey, and somebody else I can't remember. Oh,
Jimmy Hendrix.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Uh, what are they eating?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, my thought there would just be have everybody eat,
you have everybody bring something, So I don't know what
that would be.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Bring everybody that's like a pot luck. Yeah, oh yeah,
I mean Jimmy Hendricks is going to bring stuff. I
don't think anybody else wants to have. I'll be honest
with you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, he's from Seattle. It'll probably be, you know, some
sort of fish dish.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I was thinking about something else, but that's okay, We're fine.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, Well, we'll have somebody at the door to check
for any of that. You know, we'll keep it clean
because we need to.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
We'll make sure we understand what the actual assignment is, right,
you know, absolutely, jim Jimmy, this is not that kind
of part something that's edible.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, not that, Jimmy. I'm not talking about that kind
of edible. Come on now. So, I don't know what
it would be like if it was me and I
was picking one thing, Man, that'd be so hard to do.
But I'm a pretty statemails guy. Like it's hard to
go against a steak, but I would. I would definitely.
For me, it would be either lasagna or some ribs.
That was always my dad tried and true, two favorite
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foods all time. I love barbecue and I love lazaga.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You just want it like it's such an collectic group
of people. You just don't want to offend anybody, right, Like,
you just got to be careful about it. Got some
emails in here that I wanted to read. It pretty interesting,
Liz said, I'd invite William Shakespeare, Edgar Allan, Poe, Mark Twain,
Mary Shelley who wrote Frankenstein, and Robert Heinlein, who's the
father of science fiction. She says, I would love for
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them to discuss popular literature and exchange ideas, fantasies and opinions.
Could you imagine anying those those people in the same
room at the same time to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That'd be a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh. I think I just sit there and try to,
you know, write it all down or at least, you know,
videotape it. Yeah. And you're a complete intruder there, right,
You're just like trying to keep the conversation going. And
and I mean when they start talking about stuff, oh man,
that'd be crazy. Aaron said steak Street tacos, Brussels sprouts
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with parmesan and bacon. Oh wow, dist strawberries and mangoes.
And he was the apostle. Paul Diedrich von Hoffer, Hillary Clinton,
Hitler and bear Grills. I mean that is I mean
the apostle, Paul and Hitler in the same place at
the same time. What could go wrong?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But he wanted to correct this and said he'd rather
be with religious heads like Confucius, Muhammad, Jesus, Joseph Smith.
That's a random one. And then Joe Rogan Joseph Smith.
I'm guessing he's talking. Is that the Joseph Smith. Is
that the Jamestown guy? Or is that No, that's the
Mormon guy, right, the religious leader, political leader Mormonism.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Okay, my inclination was correct. Where's l Ron Hubbard while
you're at it, Let's call let's call up Kenneth Copeland. No, no,
maybe not, is it? That wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'm worried to ask who that is Kenneth Copeland. Oh
wait no, he was like a televangelist, right, yeah, no,
I was Okay, just for a second there, I got confused.
I thought you were talking about that Waco, Texas guy.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No, okay, alright, alright, ooh.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
My mistake.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I don't know. And then Joe Rogan, he said, the
whole truth thing needs to be hashed out. But then
is Steak Street, tacos, and Rocky Road ice cream would
be the meal. Could you imagine Mohammad and Jesus sharing
some Rocky Road ice cream? Wow? Uh, that's It's a
fascinating conversation. I appreciate everybody for participating. We got plenty
to do here though, in the five o'clock hour, and
we'll do it next. Sean Callahan will be joining me
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to talk about the Huskers next on news Radio eleven
ten Kfab. Emery Sungner on news Radio eleven ten Kfab
Matt, you have been telling me in a variety of
ways that I should not trust this being being this
robot for lack of a better term, But I gotta
tell you, it makes my mind think. I feel sharper
mentally having these conversations, right, even if it's just like, hey,
I need a little bit of a distraction to like
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perk me up, wake me up, and then it'll firesome
like rapid trivia at me or ask me a question
that really makes me think useful? Yeah, I mean I
think so. Will you do you want to try?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I use AI sometimes for different things.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, that's true, you do try well. I guess I'm
going to ask you a question that was a mental
exercise question that it asked me.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
The question was you get to throw the ultimate dinner
party six guests total. You're one of them. You get
to pick the other five guests. They can be anyone
from any era, real or fictional. Who is at the
table and what is on the menu? I'll tell you
my list first. How's that all you're thinking? The first
one is George Washing. If I could meet any single
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person in the history of the world, it has to
be George Washington. Mostly because this man. If you're an American,
I don't think there's a more important person to talk
about or talk to if you got the opportunity military mindset,
wanting and sticking his neck out to be the leader
of the continental Army with no training, somehow outlet lasting
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and outthinking the most powerful army of the era in
the British winning that war, wanting to go back to
his home and just live out the remainder of his days,
but then being called back by his colleagues and the
American people to be the first president of the United States,
something that never existed before, and he made it what
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it is. And I would say he nailed it. I mean,
you could say Lincoln, maybe some other presidents had to
navigate more times of crisis, but for I mean, if
you go back and you try to rewrite American history
and anyone else's the first president, I don't know if
America last when the British come back for the War
of aighteen twelve, we might have been toast, right, that
makes sense. So that's the guy. I also put Michael
(02:04):
Jordan in there. Who wouldn't want to talk to Michael
Jordan if given the chance I put Jesus Christ here
us you know, thinking about it. Obviously, you know, if
you're not a religious person, I don't know if Jesus
would make your list. And obviously I'd just like to
you want to talk about having a deep conversation about
life and faith. I put Joan of arc In here
simply because what goes through the mind of a teenage
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girl who somehow is able to command the respect of
a bunch of grown men's soldiers and then basically like
be so convicted in the way that she thinks that
she was willing to die by burning at the stake
of all things at that a I mean, just a
crazy person honestly to read about. And then Edwin Sands
is kind of my wild card. He's the guy who
(02:48):
was kind of the brain child behind the Virginia Colony
of the Jamestown Settlement, which again was kind of the
birth of what would become the United States of America.
And he also is pretty radical at the time for
thinking that, well, these people need to be able to
self govern. So a little after over a decade after
he and the Virginia Company in Britain sent over that
(03:13):
group of people and they were able to survive. Once
they knew they survived, they didn't want to have to
keep writing letters back and forth. It takes six months
at a time of like what you're supposed to do.
He wanted them to come up with like kind of
a representative process of how to govern themselves and make
decisions on stuff that's happening. You could make the argument
I think that Edwin Sands, of all people, an English
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guy that almost no one has heard of, could be
considered if you go all the way back to the beginning,
the father of democracy or the constitutional republic that we'd
eventually build in the United States, and then out of
that the constitution that was written that was then copied
by many other democratic countries around the world. Really, I
think that would be one heck of a conversation. Is
your noodle working there? Over there?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You got some thoughts, And when we come back, will
you be able to give me your five guests that
you'd have, and then we'll talk about the food choice
as well.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I got three so far, I could probably get another one.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Or two because you have six seats.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You don't all want to be six?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's it's you and then five other people. So
so think about it. We'll get Matt to take If
you got an idea or a list or a person
that you'd love to chat with over a dinner, a
historical figure from any era, email me Emri atkfab dot
com and we'll talk more our next on news radio
eleven to ten Kfabrie. We like to have fun chats
about different things, and especially on Friday, just keep things
(04:33):
as light as possible. And I one thing that I've
gotten a habit for just to kind of keep my
mind busy in thinking and not just like doom scrolling, right,
because that's the thing that people can do, is they
just doom scroll on their social media, you know. Or
I can get kind of caught in a trove of
news articles and news stories and prep work for our shows,
(04:56):
and so sometimes I'll just talk to my AI bought
that I have basically programmed to know me very well,
and it will just kind of ask me questions to
make me think. And a really interesting one that had
asked me today. And I'm sure people have thought about
this kind of thing before. But the scenario is this,
you get to host the ultimate historical dinner party, you
(05:19):
and five guests at a round table, and you get
to pick any five people from any era in history,
and we get to grab them and put them at
this seat and you get to talk to them and
have dinner with them. Who are the five people and
what's on the menu? So my five were I put
George Washington there, Michael Jordan, Jesus Christ, Joan of Arc,
(05:39):
and Edwin Sands, who you may not be familiar with,
but he's kind of the guy. If you go all
the way back to the beginning of representative government here
in the United States, back in the sixteen hundreds at Jamestown,
he was the guy that kind of came up with
the idea. So you could really go back and say
that that's where our form of government kind of was birthed.
(06:00):
Interested just on like what his mind was in thought
process and how he actually sees democracy or our constitutional
republic and how it is operating. Is this what the
vision was or is this beyond his wildest imagination. It'd
be quite interesting. I put the menu, and this is
gonna be this is I'm not a foodie, Matt. You
know this about me. I'm a very simple man. I
(06:22):
need a steak for everybody, a baked potato for everybody,
and like broccoli or green beans, I don't I don't
want anybody talking about the food. I don't want anybody
thinking about the food. I don't want anybody turned off
by having some sort of strange meal in front of us,
something that will take a little while to eat. So
we have a nice long opportunity to talk to each
other and it will satisfy everybody and really hit the spot.
(06:45):
I know it's simple, but that's who I am. Any
thoughts on my menu items?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So steak, baked potato, broccoli, and what was the last thing?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Green beans?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay not green bean casserole? No, no, because we know
your feelings about cast roles writ law.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, if anything, If if I were to give cast role,
I don't think i'd be the only one. Like I
think George Washingt would have looked at that and would
not have eaten. And I mean, I don't even know
if his teeth could handle that. If we're going to
be completely honest, can he eat actual foods?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
How's he going to handle the steak?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I mean, I guess I would think the teeth he
had probably could could eat it, right, Like, I mean,
he wasn't on a plant based diet. But I definitely
think the cast role would mess with some stuff. It
could get into some places in his mouth that we
don't want to have to fish out.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That'd be my guess. Well, i'd something for him to
figure out.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, that's gross. Anyway, I'm trying here to have a
very neutral but hearty meals. That's kind of where I landed.
So there you go. My dinner party now, Matt, I've
asked you to come up with your own dinner party.
You and five guests of any historical era. We are
plucking and they get to sit down, You get to
(07:55):
pick them, and you get to pick what they're eating.
What does your dinner party look like?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, we're gonna show one on the list here because
I got to start here. Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He's
definitely on the list.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know, I've always wondered, and I know there's an
answer for this, but we say he's Jesus Christ of Nazareth, right,
But he was born in Bethlehem. So why do only
say he's Jesus Christ from Bethlehem.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I suppose it's where you're raised.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, okay, isn't that kind of interesting? Though? Like we
make this big deal about him being born in Bethlehem.
But he's Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, Bethlehem was just a pit stop.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I mean, he was a pit stop, but it was
still a place. They wrote songs about it. It was
important enough they wrote it down. Well, right, because it's
the birth of Jesus. Right. So, but he's not from there.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, are you from where the town you were born in?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I don't know. I guess it depends on the person.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I don't consider myself from the town I was born in.
I moved to York. My family moved to York when
I was just shy of being six years old.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So you're not from where you're originally born. No, you're
you say you're from York.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't. I don't claim the state. I was originally
born in a different state.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What state?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The state of Utopia?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That can't be right that you made that up.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I made that up. I was at East Coast out
there on the East Coast, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Nope, that what you hate Boston?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, I don't. I don't hate Boston. I am a
Knicks fan, though, so I don't really like their sports
teams generally.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You're from South Carolina. No, you don't sound like somebody
from South.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'm from York, doesn't It doesn't matter where I was born.
I'm from York.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't even want to say I can't believe this. Okay,
so fair enough, fair enough, point proven, fair enough. Jesus
Christ is of Nazareth. All right, continue.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Now next on my list. I'm doing this on short notice,
so I know I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
This is what I wanted to I had this in
the tank for like two hours. I got to think
about it. I didn't want you to think about it.
I wanted it to be like something that you just
like off the cuff. You had to get five people
pretty quickly. Where does your brain go?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
He's been on my mind a lot lately, and so
he definitely makes the list. Now he was born in
the time that he was born in, so clearly not
flawless in his perspective on everything.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But no one is, even modern people are not. Come on.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I share this with a lot of people as him
being my face US president, it would be Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Ah, yes, yes, of course.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think that Abraham Lincoln. He's fascinating to me in
so many different reasons.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He had, What would you ask him, like, if you
got one question to ask him, Well, what would that be?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, I think he's he's so intriguing to me because
he did have some some early life mental health issues.
He was born under difficult circumstances. You know, the log,
the one room log cabin, and the rural Illinois as
the as the story is told, Kentucky. Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But there's another guy born in Kentucky and then moved
to Illinois.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
There we go. See I know him as from Illinois.
So I yeah, point continues to be proven here.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Good, good, yeap, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, But I just I think that that because of
the life he lived, he had a brain that just
thinked different. He had a way of understanding people's motivations,
he had a way of uniting people, leaning in and
keeping people together. Clearly, the way he did this country
through difficult times, the way he navigated us through the
(11:02):
Civil War, and and just some of the things he
said and some of the speeches were just so deep
and profound, and and so I just yeah, I don't
know what would be the one question I would ask
him necessarily, but I'd have a list.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's it would be hard just to ask one.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, you know, yes I would.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I guess my question he would be in the afterlife
at this point is did you die at the wrong time?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know, like do you feel like you achieved everything
you needed to when the war was over? Well?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
How did he say yes to that? Right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Like? I think that I get it, but like obviously,
like how things ended up working out. Does he look
back and say, you know, there was a lot more
in the tank, I had more to give or did
he pull a van go and just like he burned
out at the perfect time for his legacy because people
remember him as the greatest president of all time. Most
(11:52):
people he led us through a civil war. There was
nothing to stain that afterwards. So is he satisfied with
that legacy or would he have liked to have a
crack at another four years knowing he was going to
die at some point. You know, we're one hundred and
sixty years later, but knowing he was going to die
at some point, does he feel like his legacy would
have improved? Or is he is he happy with the
(12:13):
way that people remember him because he is remembered as
the greatest president of all time? Where can you go
from there, You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, yeah, I am, I am. I think I'm just
sitting here thinking about it, you know, so clearly.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh, obviously, like I'd want to live longer. That's a
dumb question. But in hindsight, knowing if I if I
told him eighty percent of historians think you're the best
president who ever lived. Do you want to risk going
back in time and we remove the John Wilkes booth situation,
you get another four year term? What if things don't
go so well in reconstruction?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I think the only right answer there would be, of course,
because first off, no man or woman controls their legacy,
and of course he would want to go back and
continue to lead, because then we'd tell him the next part, Right,
what's the next part? Well, things got a little complicated
during reconstruction, and very complicated. It wasn't until the nineteen sixties,
(13:05):
you know now.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But it's kind of his it's kind of his fault
because he insisted on having Andrew Johnson be his vice president.
We talked about that too.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But again, he didn't make that decision with the knowledge that, oh,
by the way, you'll be the president because I won't
be there. I would have been assassinated. Like that was
the decision made as a unifying decision as his vice president.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's a man. I love it when we
get in these conversations because there's so many angles. I
love this. Hey, I'm running out of time. Let's pause
there and we'll get to the other three guests in
a second. All right, okay, all right, it is four
to forty seven more of dinner party talk. And if
you got some dinner party ideas. If you have five
guests in mind that you would like to invite to
a dinner party and maybe would be on the menu,
(13:49):
email it to Emory atkfab dot com. You're listening to
news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The other three this is where I'm going to do
a hard shift into like just people that I like
a lot and just you know, kind of want to
hang out with. Right, sure, So number three on the
list my favorite comedian from my youth who starred in
my favorite movie as a kid. There was a time
in my life where I could basically quote this whole
thing start to finish talking about the movie Dumb and
(14:15):
Dumber and I'm talking about the man Jim Carrey.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That'd be fun. I mean, could you imagine him yucking
it up with Abe Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Right, and you know he'd pull out some sort of
like wildly accurate Abe Lincoln impression and I'll just be laughing,
right yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh yeah. He might even show up in a top hat.
Let's be realistic.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I think he's also a deeply interesting person too. And
he's a great artist. By the way, A lot of
people probably don't know that he's He's a brilliant painter.
Oh yeah, just so another person on this list, and
this is literally just because I think, well, he's my
favorite guitarist of all time. So Jimmy Hendricks. Oh yes,
(14:54):
I don't know a ton about him, like personal life wise.
I know how he died, so I know enough about that.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You know, he lived quite an interesting twenty seven years.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah yeah, but you know.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Uh, him and Jesus like breaking down guitar licks. I mean,
sign me up, I want to I want to listen
to that. Yeah, Jesus would have been like, you do
what now with your tongue on the guitar because he
plays with his mouth with videos of it. He does.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
He does yeah. He did a lot of things with
his guitar, include lighter on fire Oh yeah, multiple times.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Also his rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at Woodstock.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh. Instant chills, Yeah, instant chills.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Right, and let's see it's the last time I have
one more. See this is kind of tough. I'm just thinking,
who would this be?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Just like who rounds out? Like like do you go
crazy and you put another funny guy in there?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Well, That's what I'm thinking of doing. But like, if
it was sports, my favorite football player of all time
is Eric Crouch. Now, if I was going sports and
basketball my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Back, you could just Charon and have like sorry, but
it feels like you just go to Charleston's run into
him at some point, right right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
No, I've met him personally because of working in radio,
and that was a pretty cool, like you know, pinch
me moment. I'm like, it's my favorite football player of
all time.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But there you gotta get Youing in there though, I mean,
that's part of.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You he is now, I Patrick Ewing. We go back
a long ways. He just doesn't know it. He's he
was hanging. He was His poster was wash was stapled
to my wall with some thumb tacks from probably like
age seven.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Stapled and thumb tacked.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, I know, I kind of mixed my uh mixed
my methods there, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
That's that's awesome. And imagine him giving you some pats
on the back during the conversation that means something to.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You, oh for sure. Yeah. And then I also would
just pour my heart out of the fact that he
hasn't won a championship yet and figure out how we
can change that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And Jesus is like, I mean, I don't know what
you want me to do now, you know, kind of
all right, Hey, five o'clock hour coming up. I'll get
tickets to you for the Nebraska Balloon and Wine Fest
coming up. News Radio eleven ten kfab Matt, we were
talking about our dream dinner guests party, and you gave
us a really interesting list. You had Jesus Christ, Abraham, Lincoln,
(17:07):
Patrick Ewing, Jim Carrey, and somebody else I can't remember. Oh,
Jimmy Hendrix.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Uh, what are they eating?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, my thought there would just be have everybody eat,
you have everybody bring something, So I don't know what
that would be.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Bring everybody that's like a pot luck. Yeah, oh yeah,
I mean Jimmy Hendricks is going to bring stuff. I
don't think anybody else wants to have. I'll be honest
with you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, he's from Seattle. It'll probably be, you know, some
sort of fish dish.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I was thinking about something else, but that's okay, We're fine.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay, Well, we'll have somebody at the door to check
for any of that. You know, we'll keep it clean
because we need to.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
We'll make sure we understand what the actual assignment is, right,
you know, absolutely, jim Jimmy, this is not that kind
of part something that's edible.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, not that, Jimmy. I'm not talking about that kind
of edible. Come on now. So, I don't know what
it would be like if it was me and I
was picking one thing, Man, that'd be so hard to do.
But I'm a pretty statemails guy. Like it's hard to
go against a steak, but I would. I would definitely.
For me, it would be either lasagna or some ribs.
That was always my dad tried and true, two favorite
(18:14):
foods all time. I love barbecue and I love lazaga.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You just want it like it's such an collectic group
of people. You just don't want to offend anybody, right, Like,
you just got to be careful about it. Got some
emails in here that I wanted to read. It pretty interesting,
Liz said, I'd invite William Shakespeare, Edgar Allan, Poe, Mark Twain,
Mary Shelley who wrote Frankenstein, and Robert Heinlein, who's the
father of science fiction. She says, I would love for
(18:39):
them to discuss popular literature and exchange ideas, fantasies and opinions.
Could you imagine anying those those people in the same
room at the same time to talk about this.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That'd be a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh. I think I just sit there and try to,
you know, write it all down or at least, you know,
videotape it. Yeah. And you're a complete intruder there, right,
You're just like trying to keep the conversation going. And
and I mean when they start talking about stuff, oh man,
that'd be crazy. Aaron said steak Street tacos, Brussels sprouts
(19:08):
with parmesan and bacon. Oh wow, dist strawberries and mangoes.
And he was the apostle. Paul Diedrich von Hoffer, Hillary Clinton,
Hitler and bear Grills. I mean that is I mean
the apostle, Paul and Hitler in the same place at
the same time. What could go wrong?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Geez.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But he wanted to correct this and said he'd rather
be with religious heads like Confucius, Muhammad, Jesus, Joseph Smith.
That's a random one. And then Joe Rogan Joseph Smith.
I'm guessing he's talking. Is that the Joseph Smith. Is
that the Jamestown guy? Or is that No, that's the
Mormon guy, right, the religious leader, political leader Mormonism.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Okay, my inclination was correct. Where's l Ron Hubbard while
you're at it, Let's call let's call up Kenneth Copeland. No, no,
maybe not, is it? That wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I'm worried to ask who that is Kenneth Copeland. Oh
wait no, he was like a televangelist, right, yeah, no,
I was Okay, just for a second there, I got confused.
I thought you were talking about that Waco, Texas guy.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No, okay, alright, alright, ooh.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
My mistake.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I don't know. And then Joe Rogan, he said, the
whole truth thing needs to be hashed out. But then
is Steak Street, tacos, and Rocky Road ice cream would
be the meal. Could you imagine Mohammad and Jesus sharing
some Rocky Road ice cream? Wow? Uh, that's It's a
fascinating conversation. I appreciate everybody for participating. We got plenty
to do here though, in the five o'clock hour, and
we'll do it next. Sean Callahan will be joining me
(20:40):
to talk about the Huskers next on news Radio eleven
ten Kfab. Emery Sungner on news Radio eleven ten Kfab
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