Who is "Phillies Karen"?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Savories now popped in and he's with me today. Good

(00:03):
to have you, Scott. Hey, man, I'm sure you saw
the story of this Phillies lady.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Who how can you not see it? Well?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
And it's just one of those things right where you
don't really think that that's something you're ever going to
see happen, especially in broad daylight with all these cameras,
because usually people are a bit more self aware.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Than this person is.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I want to start, first of all, because you are
a dad who happens to have a son and a daughter.
It looked like this is a dad's son, daughter mother
that we're sitting here. And the dad was in a
position to go down the row when the ball was
hit and grab the home run ball and give it
to his son, which we found out later was his birthday.
What is the etiquette for a man even with his

(00:49):
son chasing foul balls or home run balls at a
baseball game.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I mean, his kid looked to be I don't know, what,
do you think? Ten? Yeah, eight, nine, ten, something like that.
I think we can confirm it was his tenth birthday. Yeah,
So the first thing I do there is, hey, there's
a home run ball, Go get it. I mean, I
I'd send my kid after it like a dog. I'm
a grown man. I'm not gonna be like running over

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knocking people down and trying to get a home run ball.
The son should have gone to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Son and daughter both brought their gloves of the game
right for that purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I would imagine, yeah, so run and go get it. Hey,
there it is, go get it. So he didn't do that,
then we can't see who had their hand on the
ball first. And I might be the only person on
the planet to say, it doesn't look like it's impossible
that she did have it and he grabbed it out

(01:48):
of her hand. And if that's the case, and maybe
he knew that he did that, and that's why he
then capitulated and said, Okay, here you go, lady, here's
the ball. Maybe he knew, like, yeah, I just grabbed
this ball from this lady with this bad haircut who
kind of looks like Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
The people who were putting Elizabeth Warren's face on this lady,
So I like, double take.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
The best one was, you know, she just ran over
to the people won the power ball and took the
ticket from him. And this isn't my power ball I wanted.
That's my favorite of all of them. But yeah, yeah,
maybe is it impossible that she actually had her hand
on it and then this guy grabbed it. I don't
think it's impossible. You can't really see that they both
are there at the ball at the same time. Does

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it matter? Yeah, if if we're gonna is it okay,
so being gentlemanly, if she's if she's got this ball,
all right, she touched it first, it's her ball.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, no, it's not. That's it's not how it works. No,
I disagree. I disagree, So.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
You would Lamar Jackson shoved this woman. Okay, now now
you're you're crossing the ball. You're crossing news stories. Here,
throw a water bottle at Derek Andry. There's a lot
of bad behavior over the weekend. Well behaved over the weekend, ladies.
And okay, no, so all right, let me let me
tell you how I feel. How I see this. The

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ball is a home run ball. So this is not
just a foul ball. This is a home run ball.
Let me stop you right there. This isn't the Berry bonds,
I know, but it's a home run ball. But so
you can say this was a ball off the bat,
a home run ball from one of my team's players.
Harrison Bader plays for the Phillies. Both of these people

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are Phillies fans in Miami. Okay, so this is a
very unique situation. These are two Phillies fans or families
of Phillies fans in the same section watching this game
in Miami. Not a unique situation for Miami. They have
so few Marlins fans there that the only people that
go to these games are fans of the ball clubs
who are the visiting team. Most of the sad reality

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of that team go on most of the time.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
But it is unique that you have two families in
the same vicinity that are totally decked out in the
visitor's gear and basically fighting each other over the baseball.
Now it appears to me as the ball lands, it
lands either at her feet or in the row right
in front of her. It is right in front of her,

(04:21):
like her and the guy she's with.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
She had to come over. She was as far as
the other guy. Well, she she was trying to reach
down into the row below her. This is in his
row and there's nobody next to him. In Miami. You
a ton of people there.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
And he just meanders down the row and is able
to get his hand on it and clearly possess the
ball before she would have clearly possessed the ball. And
then he walks right over. He holds the ball up,
puts it in his kid's glove and gives him a hug,
and the lady is there about immediately she had walked
down into the row where he is and grabbed him

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by the all and started yelling at him and be
rating him, and he's like surprised to see her there.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Now, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Disagreeing with you that he probably knew something like that
was probably coming, even if not in the moment she
was yelling at him immediately. You could see it on
the broadcast. The broadcast got.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
All of this.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh yeah, so she's yelling at him as soon as
he grabs the ball and is mad. And then we
can tell what she's saying based on video that other
people have posted to social media that were sitting like
right behind this family, and she said, you took.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
It from me. It was my ball number one. She's insane.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, the lack of self awareness that you are being
watched by the people not just in your section, but
probably the people who are filming this game for the
Marlins and the Phillies broadcasts are getting this and you're
seeing all of these people around you have the naked

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reaction that they're having. Have you ever been in that
spot where you're like mid way through doing something really
stupid and you finally like you kind of looked at
yourself and like recognized for a second, I'm definitely the
I'm the guy in the wrong here.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Every morning nine to eleven on Common Stop. I can't
think of a specific example, but you know, the knowing,
the feeling of, oh, I'm the a whole here. Yes,
I know that feeling. Yes.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I had one situation that this reminded me of where
I just lacked self awareness and I was really embarrassed
after the fact. And you can't go back and change it.
You just like try to learn for next time. I
was at a casino playing roulette with my friends. We
were at a bachelor party. It was me and the
guy who would eventually go and get married. We were

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sitting at this roulette table and we were dominating. It
was unbelievable. It's the greatest run anyone has ever had
in the history of roulette.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Wow, me and him both, we're up four. No, it
was like eight hundred dollars, and I mean we were
rolling and it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
So we were trying. We have my rule where you know,
like if you lose three times in a row, we're out.
We know we're up like at least five hundred bucks,
and then we decide, once we get our chips converted
into bigger chips so we can leave, we put like
five dollars on a couple of numbers just in case,
and that hit a couple of times in a row.

(07:25):
I thought that was my idea and that was my money,
but he was like, half of that's my money because
we had been playing together.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And so.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
When he's like trying to take the chips, and I'm like,
wait a second, these were my chips. These were the
I took this out of the stuff that I want.
And all of our friends had come over and start
of watching us just roll on this table. So they're
all here watching us argue, and then I stood up
and we'd go back upstairs. We should be like celebrating
together that we just completely steamrolled this. But I'm getting

(07:59):
sensitive over you know, like eighty bucks or whatever that
he's taking from this pile. And then I realized as
we were talking about it, like there was a moment
and we'd obviously been drinking, but there was a moment
in my head where I was like.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh man, this is bad.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I am looking like a complete jerk, Like I'm really
upset in this moment over this stupid thing. So I
apologized immediately. Again, we're all drinking, so I think maybe
it went over better. Still, I still have memories of this,
and I said, let's kiss his makeup, and so me
and him kissed and made up cute. It didn't taste great,

(08:35):
but you know what, like it ended the conversation right there.
It was never brought up again. Thankfully, we still left
both with like eight hundred bucks more than we started with.
And I don't know, like in that moment, like I
was just like, I'm never going to put myself in
a position where people outside of me are looking at
me and think I'm the jerk here. And that's what

(08:55):
this woman did, and nobody was there to tell her
she was the jerk. So you have thoughts, Let's let's
open the phones on this foul ball or home run
ball etiquette, self awareness and was the dad too soft
by giving the ball back that quickly because he just
gives her the ball and she just runs away with
the baseball after like fifteen seconds of her yelling at him.

(09:16):
We can talk about a call us four h two
five five eight eleven ten. Four h two five five
eight eleven ten. I don't know, like from my standpoint,
I love talking about something like this because this really
really tells you on a variety of levels how people
see the world and what you think that you are

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owed in this world, or what you think about what
other people think about you in a moment where in
the moment it feels like maybe a few but it's
actually thousands on thousands, maybe even millions of people who
are piling on you and your image. While we're talking
about this crazy lady and her approaching a man and

(10:00):
his family because he allegedly maybe took a ball out
of a home run ball out of her hand or
beat her to a home run ball at a baseball
game and she came and confronted him about it until
he gave it back. Brian's on our phone to talk
about this at four h two five five eight eleven
ten four H two five five eight eleven ten.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Brian, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, first off, I agree with Scott. Uh. You know,
if she did have it in her hand and he
kind of, for lack of better words, rush and just
wiped it out of her hands, that's a little rude
on his part. But I'm more concerned about the way

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the guy reacted when she came over to him. He
looked like he was concerned, like he was about to
get in a fight put it, put both his hands
up in the air like a muppet. She was really angry.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
She was gonna be I mean, he was doomed.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
He was never going to make it out of there.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I mean he was. He was taking him back to
a point of of comedy, to be honest, considering. I mean,
if this woman really decided to get truly physical, I
mean he would have been able to hold his own.
But with his son and his and his son and
daughter there, I mean, come on, like you expect him
to like make a bigger scene out of this. Did

(11:25):
he have any choice? No?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
No, I he probably I would say, he probably did
the right thing, but he was just a big trouble.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
If that was a big, angry dude. Well, yeah, I
don't know if he would have done. He was going down.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
To the next three, he was going down three more.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, And I bet that if it's a big guy
that was getting his hand on the baseball, I'm not
so sure he would have been hanging out over there
to grab it in the first place.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Brian, I appreciate the call, buddy, Thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
All right, good day, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yep. Let's talk about that part of them.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You're right at a baseball game, and you got your
ten year old son, your thirteen year old daughter, and
your wife with you. Baseball gets hit in the general
vicinity of where you're sitting.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
The ball is on the ground.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
By all accounts in American baseball history, that is a
live ball, and whomever comes out of there with it
gets the baseball. This lady, this crazy lady, doesn't seem
to see it that way, and she comes and berates him.
After about fifteen seconds of her yelling in his face,
he reaches into his son's glove, takes the baseball, and
gives it to her so she'll leave.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Grade that reaction. First of all, the two the dad
and this woman going after the ball at the same time,
whether he had it and she was really closed and
felt like, well, I was close enough, that should be
my ball. Right, you came from further away to get it.
This is closer to my seat, that should be my ball,

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or maybe she almost kind of had it in her
hand for a second and he grabbed it. That is
a huge difference between men and women, men who have
played sports. If this was two guys going after the ball,
I mean, once you have it, like think about it
like possession of a football. If you're a wide receiver

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and you catch it and you make a football move,
all right, that's your ball. If if you've already scored
a touchdown and now you're celebrating and someone comes up
and just grabs the ball out of your hand, like
what are you doing? Yeah, you know if it's live, right,
it's live as long as the play is still going on,
and you could have like half a hand on it,

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just like a scrum trying to get a fumble. You've
got to get that ball. And this guy probably just
saw it like, hey, this is a light ball a
fair game. By the way, he didn't look up to
see who else because there was another guy in there
as well. It was two guys in this woman that
were going after it. You'll notice that the other guy
didn't come over, going, hey, I think I have a
claim to this ball. He was like, ah, I got

(13:58):
a stat I was so close. You know, she's the
one who suddenly felt and title enough to think that
that was her ball. Now, let's talk about that interaction
when she goes over there. By this point, he'd already
gone over and he'd put it in the glove of
his son. Immediately, she's not taking it from this guy,
she's taking it from a kid. She saw the ball
going to this kid's glove and like, all right, this

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is this kid's ball. And she still felt like I
want that ball.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, And she grabs the guy and she's not yelling
at the kid, For whatever it's worth, she's yelling at
him and he's just like you can see and I
don't even know. I couldn't really make out what he said.
It's just like the ball was there or whatever, and
she's saying, it was mine.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
You took it from me. It's my ball.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
And again, you could buy a major League baseball, if
not a game used one, a major League baseball, brand
new for like twenty bucks. Like it is a nice ball,
I'm sure, and I know that it holds some significance
that it's a home run ball, and it would have
been cool for you to be the one that has
the baseball and holds it up and says, look, look

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at what I got. It's absolutely incredulous to me that
there are people out there who want something so badly
that they're willing to take it from kids. There's plenty
of videos that will make the rounds of an adult
taking something from a kid.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
And just the other day at the US Open tennis tournament,
you saw that.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, and now see that was a different and interesting thing,
and I talked about that on my show this morning.
That guy is like a CEO of a company in Poland,
and he was at the match of one of the
top Polish tennis players, so like he was there to
see that guy and that had greater significance to him.
But the Polish player looks like he's giving the hat

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to a kid, and before the kid can even get
his hand on it, the adult just grabs it and
he's so excited because he got the hat. This guy's
working millions of dollars by the way in a company
in Poland, and I just it's like, it's hard for
me to think this person apparently I've looked into this.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Europeans don't see things the same way as we do.
For whatever it's worth, they are much more like in
my like, you can argue with me, you can spit
on me, you can say all these terrible things about me,
and I am literally going to have the ability to
ignore you. I do that now.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, America, we care about what people think of us.
I mean, and we cancel people really fast and care.
That CEO went and his apology was like, well the.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Kid didn't move fast enough. Yeah, he didn't have an apology.
He said like, hey, that kid's got to learn, you know,
survival of the fittest. And honestly, like not a terrible point.
It's pretty much the only response I would accept. Like okay,
Like if you apologize, you have to give him the hat.
He's like, hey, he's welcome to fight me for it,
like the kids.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Eight Now, for whatever it's worth, that kid at the
US Open got to meet him the next day like
the Polish player and gave him a bunch of goodies
and sign him for him and everything, so that was
made right. And then the Marlins, I know those kid's
a Phillies fan. But the Marlins came over to the
family and they put it on the broadcast and everything,
and gave them a bunch of goodies. And then he

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got to go meet Harrison Bader, and Bader signed the
bat he hit the home run with and gave it
to the kid much cooler. I mean, he got all
this stuff. Did you see Marcus Lamonis from a camping
World and bed Betha and beyond for whatever remember him? Well,
he says, I'm giving him an RV and I'm giving
him take us to the World Series. So just for

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being in the right place at the right time, and
dad doing what he did, even if it was a
little soft in the way that he handed the ball
over so quickly, it got her out of his hair.
She's the villain, a clear villain. Him standing up and
saying I'm gonna fight for this baseball, like like, you
can't tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'm not giving you the ball.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That would have made him look at a certain point
also look pretty bad, to be honest with you. Now,
I get the principle that he should have stood up
and been like, I got the ball first. It was mine,
but by him. And he said this in the quote
because he was interviewed also by one of the TV stations.
At a certain point, I had to be dad, and
I wanted to show that de escalating things is the

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right way to do stuff with his dad or with
his son and his daughter sitting there, and it looked
look what it did for them. It paid off immensely
with all the stuff that they could do. So it's
an interesting case study into the American mind. If you
have thoughts, call us at four h two five five
eight eleven ten. Four h two five five eight eleven ten.
It is news Radio eleven ten, kfab. It's been three

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full days almost and we have no idea who this
person is.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
You know she has a last name too, right, they're
calling her Karen ball Snatcher. Oh is that right? They've
even made up some trading cards.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm going to pass on trying to acquire one of
those and also saying that name for a fear of
punishment from the FCC. We've been asking your opinions about
this entire debacle. In scenario, what's foul ball or home
run ball? Etiquette? First of first of all, and also
the behavior of both the woman who clearly is out

(19:06):
of her mind, and also the dad who caved and
folded pretty quickly after this woman came and yelled at him. Well,
what do you think for two five, five, eight eleven ten,
Adam is on the phone line. Adam, welcome to our
show today. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Hey? So, one thing I think we're ignoring, you know,
especially with the Coldplay guy that got caught the CEO
or whatever the Coldplay concert. These shows, you were always
on camera. Oh yeah, you have to imagine, you know,
you're you're sitting there picking your nose. Oh, that's going
to be put on the jumbo tron. They are looking
for that type of stuff. They want to find these
type of things. And another thing with the dad, he

(19:43):
did the exact right thing. He turned the other cheek
and look he got a whole bunch of free gear
from the from the teams. Now he's looking like the
good guys. She's the crazy one. You don't talk to crazy.
Give her the ball, leave her alone, otherwise you're gonna
be on national TV in a shouting match with her.
Your kids try and you're kicked out of the game
and you don't get any of that free stuff. It's

(20:04):
no surprise that she's snatching these baseballs. People do that
all the time. They don't want to give kids free
school lunch, and they're snatching baseballs. I'm not surprised one bit.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Now, see, Adam, now you've crossed another interesting line as
to what kind of person this likely is. And I
appreciate you for calling in, buddy, thanks for listening to
the show.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, so the haircut. We try not to profile people,
ladies and gentlemen. If you were to see me on
the street in my natural habitat with my hair down
and my Hawaiian shirts on, you would probably have like,
I've been misidentified as, you know, kind of a hippie.

(20:45):
Before I wouldn't say that I'm a hippie. I don't
think I would identify as a hippie. People think, you know,
like I'm really into the herb, or I'm really into
you know, like liberal politics and stuff like that. That's
those are not true things, you know. I just kind
of like looking this way. So I've been misidentified. However,

(21:10):
I can with some confidence, at least some confidence, peg
this particular individual as a liberal, and I'll tell you why,
incredible entitlement. Clearly never had children. And I say this
as a childless guy myself, But you don't have kids

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and then do that?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Is that is that unreasonable? I hadn't thought about the
being childless she did. She wasn't at the game with
a kid. She's with a guy who what I would
assume is a husband or a significant other of some sort.
I'm gonna say, I bet she has a kid. I
bet she has a kid in college. It would be
the right age.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
But that makes no sense, right because like everything I've
heard from people who have children is that it changes
the makeup of who you are in that moment. Now
again we have to ask, you know, if the roles
are reversed and this guy who ends up getting the
baseball and giving it to his son, if he's at
the game and she beats him to the baseball and

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it's right next to him, and she grabs it and
she walks away with it and she's celebrating, I'm not
guessing that he's gonna go over there and be rate
her for that baseball. Even if it's like, hey, my
kid wants a baseball. I don't think that's what's gonna
happen here. She did this because she wanted the baseball
herself that and like Adam said, you have to assume,

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I mean, she watches games, she's obviously a fan.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
She's wearing this really nice Philly sweatshirt.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Like you cannot tell me that she doesn't think that
the cameras are on her when she's doing all of that.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
And then I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
She'd already bolted after that, because there's all sorts of
like social media videos people have posted of her getting
booed and yelled at by people, and she's going down
and yelling at other people and is angry and flip
being people off, which you know, total unhinged behavior here.
I don't know if she was around to see all
the goodies the kid was receiving.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
In that moment.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
But I mean the other thing too, I mean, what
a typical Philly fan behavior. Right, We're led to believe
Philly fans are just the worst. They throw snowballs at
Santa Claus, they're booing their own teams, and here she is,
you know, like the grinch you stole Christmas? Did you
see the Savannah bananas over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
No, did they funny with this. They spoofed it, and
it was the grinch that stole the baseball the exact
same way by arguing with somebody. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
We were talking about learning the identity of the Phillies Karen,
the woman who was a Phillies fan that came and
eventually got a baseball that was hit into the.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Crowd home run ball.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And I got this email from Sue said, I read,
don't ask me where, I don't remember, sorry, but that
she's a high school administrator or a school administrator from Massachusetts.
They gave her name, said she's been fired, but I
haven't heard anything since, so I doubt that part. But
she looks like a school admin, self important type. Now,

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the haircut of the person that this was identified like
she was identified as, and the way that this woman
looked at the foot at the baseball game in the face,
you could say, Okay, maybe with the glasses and the
hair like, maybe that's it. But this person does not
have the same body type. And you're telling me that

(24:29):
a school administrator in Massachusetts is spending a Friday during
the school year in Miami going to a Phillies game.
This person's self identified as a right Red Sox fan.
The school also said she was not there. But this
is the Internet for you. We were trying to identify
these people.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's why, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Earlier in the show, I was talking about the Coldplay
couple and how quickly they were identified after they were
going viral on social media. This woman not only was
just on social media, but we have actual four K
cameras from the baseball teams that were filming the game
with this woman looked like, what her shape was, what
her hair looked like, what her face looked like, who

(25:08):
she was with, and we got nothing after three days.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Isn't that strange to you? It is now. I haven't
done my part.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I haven't tried to, you know, figure this out, but
I just cannot believe we don't know who she is yet.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's sad for her. She doesn't have friends, she didn't
have co workers who are willing to identify her. Or
maybe maybe she does have great friends who are not
going to turn her in. So yeah, I don't know
who she is, but you know who does she does?
What she been doing the last few days, besides shopping

(25:44):
various wig shops while going in there wearing a hoodie
and oh yeah, you know, no glasses and sneaking up
there going yeah, I'm interested in some wigs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
No, seriously, the moments thereafter, and again I would imagine
alcoholics to play some factor in this.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Nobody is this unaware? Oh, I don't know, unconscionable. You
gotta be kidding me. You are in this. This is not
the first time this woman has demanded to speak to
the manager. Now I don't disagree with that, but you
gotta know you're at a baseball game when there's so
many people around you will only have that irrational confidence

(26:21):
to do what she did and think that you could
just get away with it with nobody being upset about
it unless you are under the influence. Entitled people don't
have that level of shame and humility.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
He's got to be fifty years old. You're telling me
that she's not learned this stuff. No, she has to
be a baseball fan of some some kind. She's had
to watch games on TV, like she has to.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Know that was her ball. She told him my ball,
and then she.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I don't know if you saw some of the videos
on social media afterward, but she's going to other people
in the section yelling in their face when they're booing
at her and screaming at her from their seats, and
she's like going down and confronting them off fingers and eventually,
I think, you know, for her own safety. I don't
know if somebody told her to leave or she just
decided to get out of there, but I look man,

(27:12):
and and good for the Marlins. The Marlins said, people
come and give that family that gave the baseball back,
including the kid, which apparently was his tenth birthday.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
And uh, I'll never forget it, No.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
You won't, But I mean all the good stuff that
they're getting after that is really interesting. I like the
most unfathomable part of this. In twenty twenty five, considering
how fast we can identify these people, we couldn't identify
this person.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Over three full days.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
She and I'm not a fan of the cancel culture, okay,
and that includes somebody like this. Her life should not
be ruined because of this. She should just honestly feel
terrible about herself. The embarrassment she's gotten from television cameras
was far more than anything that I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
She had headed bargain for.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
However, now We live in a society where you do
something that's foolish, your name and your image is getting
plastered everywhere around the country and around the world, and
you are going to be a villain that is never
going to be able to be able to escape this.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Right, I still think it's Elizabeth Warren. But if it's
not the fact that people are out there saying, I
know who she is. She works for the school district.
She should be fired for what? Did you see the
entire statement from that school district though, no, they said
she is not an employee. She's never been employee of
our schools. And by the way, anyone who works for

(28:33):
our school district, attended as a student, or lives in
our community would obviously have caught that ball bare handed
in the first place, avoiding this entire situation. That's from
the Hamilton Public Schools in New Jersey. Well done. So.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yeah, there have been multiple misidentifications and no positive identifications
for this woman. Really crazy to me that in this
age that this person's been able to get away with this,
considering how many cameras were on her.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
But it is a.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Continued lesson for us as a society of what is
and isn't acceptable public behavior and what the new consequences are.
Because I'm with you, you shouldn't lose your job for
just being a jerk wherever you are, unless all of
a sudden, the company is being drugged through the mud
because of this. Think about that, right if your school district,

(29:25):
Let's say, let's say she is a school administrator somewhere,
and we know she probably is not she was at
a baseball game on a Friday during the school year,
unless she lives in Miami.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
There's no way she's going to that game.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Now, let's say she's doing that though, just for the record,
and they are able to positively identify her, and I
say they is the internet sluice, and it starts making
the rounds, and then all of a sudden, people start
giving terrible reviews for the school, calling the school phone
lines and clogging them up like the internet people do

(29:59):
these days, start trolling the school and saying have you
fired that woman yet, and putting all this pressure on her.
At some point, right she's either going to have to
leave that school or they're going to have to make
a determination as to whether or not this is worth
keeping her on staff or telling her maybe she just
needs to go. It's just an unfortunate reality. I mean,

(30:20):
did you think the astronomer CEO guy, the Coldplay couple
people should have lost their jobs over their infidelities.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well, you do sign in corporate circles like that and
somebody that says you can't have dalliance with a coworker
or whatever, and that's fair.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, you know, when the director of HR is committing
an HR violation, that does makes that bad.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That doesn't look good. Yeah, she's a teacher. Yeah, you're
good luck getting that by the teachers union. Even if
she had strangled that kid, the teachers union would have
been like, hey, you know, she's a tenured teacher. You
can't do it. He can't touch her. Could you imagine? Right?
What do you think she does for a living? Though?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean, I mean, I mean how much does president
of the homeowners association pay? Yeah, I mean it can't
be that. I argue that she might would bet powerball
money that she is the president of her homeowners association
or better yet, she's the past president of her HOA
but still tells the current president how to do everything

(31:25):
and without ever being asked for guidance. That's who that is.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
The haircut right like it wasn't It wasn't a bad haircut.
I mean, this is somebody in coloring in it and everything.
So they had She's got money, she's wearing a nice sweatshirt.
She's at a baseball game.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I don't know. Let me think about it. Well, I'll
give a guest after the break.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
How's that? Four seventeen. Thanks for listening News Radio eleven
ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Emory Songer on news Radio eleven ten kfab. Who is
this woman?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
We do not know after three days, the internet's loose
to not positively identified her. You ask an interesting question,
what is this person's job? What would be their occupation?
The woman looks to be late forties or maybe early fifties,
looks pretty good, cares about what she looks like. Even

(32:18):
though her hair looks weird, it looks well done. She
was wearing like hoopy earrings. I always find hoop earrings
to be kind of a statement for women to that
they like how they feel about themselves.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Am I is that a wrong thing to say? The
earrings are fine? Yeah, I like coopy ring. I do
want to say that it's not the hairstyle it's the
hairstyle and the attitude that stereotypically goes along with the hairstyle.
I agree, I feel compelled to say that. Well, at
the same time also saying it's not the name Karen,
because there are a lot of nice women out there

(32:53):
named Karen. I haven't don't act like this. Yeah, it's
the attitude, right, and people need to want to have
names for this kind of person to kind of like,
you know, I don't know. It's become a meme. The
internet has really made something's mom.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Now, the hoopier rings, to
me are a woman puts on hoopier rings when she
really likes the way that she looks. It's like a
real confidence booster kind of thing. And then she's wearing
a very nice I mean, I don't know about you,
but almost anything that you're gonna buy that's officially licensed

(33:32):
by Major League Baseball it's a pretty expensive thing, especially
a hoodie like the one she was wearing, so i'm
And then of course she bought tickets to sit in
the outfield to go to a Major League Baseball game
in Miami. Now, those are about the cheapest tickets you're
gonna find to a stadium in Major League Baseball because
the Marlins never have their own fans show up. But
I don't know, Like she seems fairly well to do

(33:56):
despite having an awful terrible attitude, So what does she do?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
The hoa thing is.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Kind of funny, but that's not a real occupation, but
I think it is. But I would say a realtor
isn't all that wrong, right, Like a real assertive person.
I'm sure she's very organized, but she also yells at
everybody who works for her, and nobody likes to stay
working in her realty company for more than about a
year or so because they just can't deal with her

(34:28):
mood swings because you know, she's like this like all
the time.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, And that also brings up It's the kind of
person you don't want to work against, but you don't
mind having her on your team. Like if she's an
attorney or something, Oh she gets done yet you want
her to be your attorney. You don't want to walk
into the courtroom see her and go, oh, great, we're done.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
For she's she definitely is a fighter. Whatever she does,
she's not going to back down. She would have been
willing over a baseball to make this scene. Imagine if
it's like something related to her job or with actual
money on the art, you know, so those things here
is what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
She's in good shape.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Too, so like this is a person that looks to
be in good shape. I was thinking maybe like a
CrossFit trainer. Like she not only is a like with
her attitude, she's not only like somebody who goes there,
but she's a person that likes to tell people what
to do. So she got her certification and is able
to coach CrossFit for people because I've been around CrossFit

(35:31):
gyms and I like most of the people that I've had.
You know, you have taught me CrossFit. I'm not a
huge fan of CrossFit for myself, my wife loves it.
I think if you're into that sort of thing and
you're a big weightlifter kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Like, it's great.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
But the best CrossFit coaches are also ones that know
how to push you. This person, I think is the opposite,
not quite like a soft person, but a person really
knows how to push, but also a person who cares
about results and she's gonna get you across the finish line.
So she doesn't have her own gym. But I think
she is like a a solid trainer who coaches a

(36:03):
couple of classes a week at the local CrossFit jams.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
A very interesting character study. The only thing that would
cause me to disagree with your assessment is if she
were really that strong, good agile, she would have gotten
that ball. I'm going with my original gut on this one.
She's the past HOA director who still bothers the current
HOA direct Homeowners Association president and tells her what to do,

(36:30):
even though the current HOA president never asks her for advice.
That's what her whole life revolves around. You're probably not wrong.
I got a couple ideas. What if she was a
flight attendant? Could you imagine her as a flight attendant.
She's like, she's got a real strong sense of right

(36:53):
and wrong. You know that this guy's using my arm rest, Hey,
his arm wrest. She could be good at that.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
And she's coming through the aisle, you know, giving you
your snacks, and you get a little too antsy about
like reaching up. I've seen a guy yell at a
person because she snatched like a snack from him, and
I was like, wow, he kind of snapped at her.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
At that passenger. She would do that. She would She's like,
don't touch me.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Also, what if she was a Disney princess at Disney World.
Could you imagine her in character and walking around and
like telling the kids, Hey, give me that charro, Hey
what are you doing with that snuwglobe.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I feel confident in saying she's not a Disney princess
at Disney World.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Hey, you never know. Maybe she lives in the Florida
area and that's like a side gig for her. Who knows,
or maybe she was at one time and at Scarter,
so now she became a total you know what,