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Speaker 1 (00:00):
His name is Jeff Angelo, and he is joining us
to help unsheap the people. Jeff Fangelo, thank you for
being on the show today.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey, looking forward and talking with you, and I'm also
looking forward to Sunny Guy's eighty. Is my shorts threshold
with eighty or that's when I put shorts on? So
everybody's got the shorts threshold? And what is your memory?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Like it's lower than that. But I also regularly regret
what yeah, yeah, like like sometimes it'll be like seventy
seventy two. I like to put the shorts on and
then I get out and then like the clouds cover
the sun, and I'm like, man, I shouldn't have war shorts.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah. See, I don't understand why you go low there.
You just you gotta know after all this time, what
your shorts threshold is. It's eighty. It's eighty for me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's a given take, Jeff. It's a given take, like
just anything else, like say a give and take. I
build you a golden dome and you give me your
country something like that. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Exactly right, Yeah, I make you a stake if you
let me build a military, don't over your state. Sounds good, is.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That the are we is he serious still about this
or or is this just something that is him just
kind of poking and seeing what the reaction is going
to be because I sometimes I can't tell anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, yeah, and sometimes you really can't tell. He loves
to make a deal, so he negotiates in public. President
Trump does, but he has admitted to just trolling the media,
trolling other people having a little fun with him also,
and we we I don't think we've ever really seen
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that in a president, you know, I mean, Ronald Reagan
had a great sense of humor, but it was sort
of straightforward, funny, funny jokes and remarks, and you know,
President Trump is definitely a president of the social media area.
Are always patrol people you troll entire country just because
you're having fun. So it's hard to say sometimes. Obviously
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with the fifty first state thing, he is in the fact,
I think he's trolling them. I think with the Golden
Dome he is going to negotiate with them. They do
want to participate in it, and I think it's a
smart move on their part. And what I think he's
going to do is he's going to negotiate some kind
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of key that they would help pay for it. But yeah,
he can't help but poke a little fun at him
while he's at it about well, you know, you get
the dome for free. Yeah, it's almost like like a
coupon you take the Coles. It's like you get the
Golden Dome for free if you let us make you
a state. You know, And immediately the Prime Minister had
the immediate respont back We'll keep our sovereignty, thanks very much.
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But what I do like is that the Canadian Prime
Minister has now met with a Trump and probably he's
got a good eye now of oh okay, this guy's
having a little fun with us, and you know we're
we're gonna have to take it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, Jeffy a little joining us a political analyst and
also a host of the HU Morning Show and our
sister station into Mooine ten forty who. I think that's
also a good point. I think Mark Carney probably is like,
you know, this is like he's kind of winking at
me while he says stuff like this, you know that
kind of thing. Now, with that being said, we definitely
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know Donald Trump has been very serious when it comes
to the Russia Ukraine thing. And it feels like he
thinks he's making headway with Vladimir Putin to try to
get him into a spot where he wants to negotiate
to end the war. I keep asking why would Putin
negotiate to the end of the war if he feels
like he wants all of Ukraine? Like what's stopping him
from just trying to keep going? And then every time
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it feels like Donald Trump makes progress, then he comes
back a few days later and says, I don't know
what's gotten into this guy, but they obviously don't. One piece,
What does the what kind of role does the United
States play and trying to get this over with? And
is it a smaller role than initially anticipating.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, I think that we can play a big role.
I think the next step is actually sanctioned on Russia.
Trump hasn't wanted to go that route, and I agree.
Senator Chuck Grassley tweeted out the last few days and
he said, you know, it's obvious that President Trump thought
that Putin respected Trump enough. Grassy put you know, was
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a friend that somehow he'd be in agreement with Trump
on coming to a ceasefire. I think that Putin what
he's doing is he's trying to win the war, and
he just keeps pretending that he wants to cease fire
while he's bombing away in Ukraine. And I think it's
going to be tough for Trump to accept that. I
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do think that he did think he had the ability,
he had the connection with Putin, get Putin to the
table and get a ceasefire. I think he's going to
have to turn out and slap sanctions on Russia. I
think he's gonna have to work with Congress and do
that because I don't think Putin is serious about a ceasefire.
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I think Putin thinks that he will eventually win the war.
He'll make the noise that everybody wants to hear, which is, oh, sure,
I'm interested in the ceasefire, and then then he keeps
the bombing carpet bomb in Ukraine because I think he's
trying to win, and I think he is trying to
take over the country, and I think President Trumps has
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had to come to realize that. And I think at
some point he does say he's going to join together
with Congress and slap them with some sanctions to see
if something will work to get Russia to the table, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Angelo joining us to break this down on eleven ten
kfab the sanctions would they be enough to get him
to the table or do you think because it sounds
like he's surrounded himself with people in the Kremlin in
their government, that really the whole point of this was
to take that country. And I don't know how you
after three plus years, like if you put yourself in
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his shoes, how do you go back to your nation
and say, hey, guys, that three years was totally worth it.
I got thirteen percent of Ukraine like that, It doesn't
make a whole lot of sense. So what I just
don't know, even if the sanctions would work at this point,
is there something else, like beyond just European nations sending
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actual boots on the ground to Ukraine that would make
him feel like, Okay, maybe the status quo has changed
enough for me to want to negotiate a peace deal.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, i'll tell you Emory then. One of the things
I respected about President Trump's first term was he really
seemed to know what economic buttons to push that really
caused the country to come to the table and negotiate.
And I have faith that he's got the ability to
figure out what kind of economic pressure he can bring
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to bear on Putin to get him to the table. Now,
as you were saying, and I think this is right,
it's got to look like some sort of win. And
I think for what Ukraine is unfortunately going to have
to realize is they are going to have to give
up some land. But also, at the same time, if
Putin says and they're never going to be allowed to
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join NATO, or there's just some long term agreement in
which Ukraine is not some sort of threat to Russia
or what have you, there's got to be some there's
got to be land plus another win in there, I
think for Russia to stop. And I don't know what
that other win is going to be. I agree with you,
he's not going to get the whole country in any
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kind of agreement. But if you can give him some
other kind of win, like they're not going to go
to NATO or or they won't have any aggression towards
the neighbor or something like that, I think then you
do get a seafire eventually.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
To pay close attention to, Jeff, can you stick with
me for one more segment?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, sure can.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
All right, we'll come back, going to talk a bit
about the Rob Sands effect on the state of Iowa's
He is a Democrat that is making some waves early
in the election process for next fall. Jeff Angelo, who
is the morning show host on our sister station in
Des Moines ten forty Who Jeff, You're a former politician,
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so I know that you have it in your bones
you like to look at the strategy political analysis. Can
you explain to the fine folks that are listening to
this radization and mostly me, why you have to announce
that you're running for a seat or an office eighteen
plus months before the actual election takes place.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, I mean, you gotta do the work. I know
it seems crazy, but if you're going to get out
there and you are going to be taken seriously, you
gotta crisscross the state. You gotta raise money, you gotta
run ads, you gotta get known. The very first thing
you gotta do is you got to get known. And
for first of all, people need to be able to
(09:05):
see your name, see you, and they have to take
you seriously as a candidate. Okay, we take them seriously
as a candidate. Okay, Now, they need to know where
you stand on the issues. So it is not unusual.
And usually it does take this long for people to campaign,
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so they have to declare early. They've got to go
around the state. They've got to go to all the
church suppers, they got to go to the town square
and the farmers' markets and things like that, just to
say hello to people. Start to get known, start to
raise money, because it does take a lot of money
to win any office these days, and you got to
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get known, and after you get known, then you've got
to establish yourself. From an issues perspective, it is it's
a lot of hard work. It is a long, hard
slog to be a candidate, a successful candidate, and yes,
it does take this long. It really does well.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
With that being all said, I believe you because it
seems like everybody in the state of Iowa, at least
because the news has been coming out of all the
people that are running for different seats, challenging for seats,
and of course I think the one that's most notable,
at least for right now is the governor's race. We know,
Kim Reynolds, you know, a couple months ago, said that
she's not seeking reelection that surprised some people. I don't
(10:25):
think it necessarily surprised me or anybody that was close
to her, But that kind of leaves this void of Okay,
so who is going to be the Republican And there's
not an obvious answer there. And then of course Rob
sand uses this as an opportunity. As the only state
elected Democrat in the entire state of Iowa, he is
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announcing that he's going to run for office, and he
is exciting the people. He's exciting the Democrats that are
independence that I think really like him. The way he
talks feels a bit different. And I talked to him
yesterday and we had that interview on the show and
his foundation. We haven't got into the issues yet because
I think he's just trying to build a base before
he you know, has to take hardline stances on a
lot of these issues. But there's something about him that
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makes me feel like if he makes waves in a
very red state Ioway's become a very red state, then
there's going to be like, hey, that's the prototype. If
other red states can find a guy like that that
they can, you know, have as a candidate for a
major office, they're going to try to find everything that
they can do to give him the resources to win.
How important is it for the Republicans in Iowa to
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get their stuff together? And what do you think about
Rob stand and the ripple effect that just him being
in this race now can potentially create in the state
of Iowa.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, So let me be the guy that sort of
swims against the tide on all of this. Like, I
like Rob sand as a person. I think he's a
good guy, But I shake my head at all this hype.
You still have to prove to me that he's got
a serious shot in Iowa. He when he went one
election as state auditor, he spent millions of dollars against
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his opponent to try to win the state auditor seat.
And I think his opponent spent a grand total of
seventeen dollars ninety seven cents and only lost by twenty
nine hundred votes. So I think there's a lot of hype.
And look, Rob is a great hype guy. I mean,
he's on social media a lot, he does the media
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rounds a lot, He's talked to you, he's talked to me.
He's a great guy. But dude, I mean, just simply
because he's the only Democrat that won and he happened
to be in a race where he had millions of
dollars and his opponent had, you know, a gold penny
he found on the ground. I mean it just he
only won by twenty nine hundred votes. So I find
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I don't buy the hype right now. I just I
find this amazing that he's considered to be this gigantic,
formidable Democratic candidate that's really going to show the Democrats
corossed this to the nation that Democrats can win in
red state. I'm skeptical, and I'll be glad for him
to prove me wrong. But we kind of forget Rob's history.
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He barely eked out a win last election, out spending
his opponent like one hundred to one.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So I guess, Jeff, the follow up to that would be,
you're not buying it because you haven't seen it yet.
Do you think that there would be more resources that
would be put into him now, because I mean, who
else is going to even challenge right Like, is there
another Democrat that can make that a little bit harrier
for him? And is it just because I was so
read that he kind of sticks out as a sore thumb,
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as a guy, as a Democrat that's actually at least
won a state election in the last decade.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Well, that's it. I mean, he does stick out because
he's one in a state that's becoming more red, as
you pointed out, but barely won. And this time around,
his opponent will have an equal amount of money, and
therefore you're really going to see whether or not that
somehow he's found some magical potion to appeal to Republicans,
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or if it just happened that he ran for an
office where he could outspend his opponent ten to one.
I mean, so the Republicans, of course, will put up
a strong candidate and they'll match him dollar for dollar,
and then we will find out if this really is
if he really is a tremendous candidate. To me, that's
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yet to be seen. Hey, so he'll have a serious
challenger in the upcoming race.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Hey, Jeff, you know what, You're really smart, and this
is why I have you on because sometimes you can
just say, look, it's really not that big a deal yet.
And that's what I appreciate about you, because you can
see things from an actual politician's perspective and I do
appreciate you for being on my show today. One last thing,
I am excited to see you at the Principal Charity
Classic and know a lot of people from the Omahai
(14:58):
area go over there every year to kind of check
out the golfing and see some of the great golfers
that have been on planet Earth. And I can't wait
to see you over there tomorrow, my man.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I know, man, it was so much fun. I was
just going over the Friday pairings and what amazing names
returning Champernie El's, you got DJ Singh. We have a
great time tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's going to be great. That is the host of
the morning show on Oursissocation ten forty who Jeff Angela
appreciate it. Jeff, thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You bet, buddy, anytime.