Willie Mays, Juneteenth, CWS and more

Episode Transcript

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A lot going on in the news, and we'll get to it on a
point to point basis over the nextfour hours. Have a lot of fun
as well. Got a couple ofthings that I think are pretty interesting conversations
that have nothing to do with relevantnews, But you know what, some
of the best conversations come from someof that stuff. Before I get to
this, we got the New YorkCity rape charge for this illegal immigrant and

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the details that we have, thevideo that we have from the police officers
and their body cams and in NewYork when they arrested him. It's pretty
interesting, to say the least.And this is the kind of thing that
you wonder about. We'll get tothat in a second. I'll get to
more details and just kind of whatthat means, because obviously this is one

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person, but this is the kindof thing when we talk about the state
of the nation and our current perspectiveon illegal immigration and open borders. This
is the kind of thing that weare hoping not to have happened. So
if you got thoughts on anything we'retalking about today, you can call us
four h two five five eight eleventen. Four h two five five eight

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eleven ten is the phone number tobe a part of the show today.
Big thanks to my guy Roger who'sin here and he's going to be helping
us out on the phone line todayas well. So I want to talk
to you first off about Juneteenth,because that's today. I stupidly looked for
the mail this morning and didn't seeit. I was like, oh,
yeah, federal holiday today, that'syou know, for for I mean,

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it's a new day, right,It's like it's a new holiday. So
it's not like one that we've we'vegotten used to over long periods of time.
The first federal holiday of Juneteenth,it was instituted in twenty twenty one,
so it was as a Biden administrationthing. But as much guph as
we give the Biden administration, thisis kind of one of those things where

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I feel like we have I thinkthis is an important one to actually have
on the calendar. And I'll tellyou why in a few ways. And
again I'm free if you disagree.I'm totally down with that opinion. I
have no problem talking about this withdifferent opinions involved. First off, federal

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government has a holiday in January acouple if you tech technically count in New
Year's Day, but you throw inMartin Luther King Junior Day, you got
President's Day in February. You lookat like Easter and like the day after
Easter or a good Friday I guesswould be before Easter. Then you look

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at Memorial Day in May. Youhave Juneteenth now in June, fourth of
July, or Independence Day in July, Labor Day in September, you go
to October. I think, unlessI'm forgetting one, there's there's a Veterans
Day in November, and Thanksgiving,and then you got Christmas, of course
in December federal holidays. I totallyunderstand this one is a little bit interesting

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because people like me, straight white, normal looking person who has family history
in the Northern States since the youknow, thanks to Kathy, who you
know, helped find my ancestry forme all the way back to you know,
the early seventeen hundreds with a youknow, kind of the patriarch,

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and then my mom's side of thefamily didn't really get fully established here until
well after nineteen hundred from Germany,so I wouldn't have any idea of what
Juneteenth necessarily is. You learn inschool about the Civil War, you learned
about why the Civil War was fought. But while while I was in school,
I had a pretty loose understanding ofexactly how all that went down.

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I knew of the Emancipation Proclamation ofwhat it meant, the idea that it
freed the slaves, but that waslike two full years, two plus full
years before the actual Civil War finishedup. And June teenth is basically the
day that the last slaves in Texasand Galveston specifically found out that they were

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officially free. News didn't travel thesame way then as it does now,
and even though the people of Texasknew that it being a slave state,
they just chose not to inform anybody, and you know, did not recognize
the Emancipation Proclamation until basically the Unionwas able to go down there and tell
them as they wrapped up the CivilWar and won the Civil War. This

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day is important, I think fora lot of different reasons. And I
do think it's in if you weregoing to make a federal holiday in June.
I think this is a worthy cause. The idea of us being an
America, and America right as awhole, our country from sea to shining
sea. Right. It took sometime to accomplish. America definitely doesn't have,

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you know, sunshining daisies in everynook and cranny with the way that
the country was built. Right,there were challenges, and not all of
them are America's fault, certainly,but America did take manifest destiny to super
levels after the Civil War westward movement, but trying to eventually unite everyone under

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the same umbrella and celebrate people forbeing free. Now, the gentlemen,
our founding fathers who wrote the Constitution, they talked about that. They talked
about the freedom of every man,the opportunity to live in a place that
you could have, the freedom ofspeech, the freedom of the press,
freedom of assembly, the freedom ofthe right to protest, right, the

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freedom of bear arms, you know, every last one of those Bill of
Rights, and then the following amendments. Those were not done flippantly. Those
were done with real purpose. Yetthis country was one that we had at
least half of the country geographically,and there were a lot of political battles

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over which parts in which states,in which territories were and were not in
a slave state. During the eighteenthirties, forties, fifties, right and
like the Missouri Compromise in trying toyou know, the Kansas Nebraska Act,
which you know, hey, we'regoing to go here, but you have
to have a slave state too,you have to admit one of each.

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And the presidents that were in thatera just kind of letting that continue to
simmer and boil until eventually the SouthernStates said we are going to secede from
the Union, and that kick starteda four year long Civil war with Americans
killing Americans the backbone of that.And I know there's a lot of political
talk and fodder that goes along withit that economics of it in the Southern
States, but the idea that wewere a country that talked about freedom,

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yet at least half of the geographicalnation that we had was enslaving people of
color to do jobs in exchange forliterally just being able to live. They
were bought as property, they weretreated as property, and it was incredible

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economic work for the South, butincredibly terrible humanitarianism at the time. People
Even a century before that, there'splenty of writings of people that really felt
like slavery was a bad thing thatthe United States, we weren't even the
United States at that point, Butthe colonial Americas were wrong for having that
kind of thing. There were indenturedservants that were not African American, even

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in the sixteen to seventeen hundreds,that were coming over from England and Ireland
and places like that and working forthe people that had the property, the
people who got here first. Noneof that made any sense, but especially
when it became a real trade,the slave trade itself. America was not
the only place that had slaves,but it certainly was a lucrative spot for

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people who were trying to get intothat business. You go to Africa,
you get slaves from well one ofthe tribal nations that were enslaving people there,
give them whatever, bring them tothe United States, sell them on
auction, essentially separating families. YadA, YadA, YadA. You know the
rest, right, if you areinterested in learning about the history. Truly
a dark thing that was happening ina country that allegedly all men were created

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equal certainly was not practiced that way. And you can throw women in here
too, who didn't even have theright to vote until we got into the
nineteen hundreds. Right right as beforethe Roaring twenties was when women finally got
the opportunity to be on equal footing, at least in the right to vote
right. So it's just a reminderour country isn't perfect. It's never going

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to be perfect. But I dothink there is a power to the idea
of us wanting to remember the importantthings that did happen. I know that
we're very protective of what's taught inschools, and we should be. We're
incredibly protective about the way it isbeing taught, the way that it is
being explained to young minds who you'retrying to make sure they're not indoctrinated with

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any sort of political beliefs, butit is important for them to understand the
truth. And for every single Confederatestatue or you know, sports team or
school name that we have to adjustbased on outrage, and we rightly so
I think in a lot of cases, say why are we like, why

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are we changing or tearing down thesestatues? Why are we adjusting the way
that we're addressing certain things because we'rebeing told to by a woke mob on
social media. Well, for everyone of those things that we need to
be angry about, there are historicalthings that we also need to continuously promote
and I think one of the greatthings that America has done has evolved over
time. We've never stayed in thesame place for longer than a presidential administration

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for the most part, and certainlyeverything changes on a day to day basis,
but we learned from the past.We learn from what happened before,
and that is one thing that Americahas done. For all the transgressions that
people accuse this country of, wehave continuously evolved and become a better version
of ourselves, something that a lotof other countries that claim to be first

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world countries are a lot less likelyto do. So. It is a
celebration of the end of slavery ofthe African American race in our country in
the eighteen sixties. But I alsothink it can be a celebration for us
as a nation that we remember thatwe have made mistakes and we were willing
to correct those mistakes over time.If you got thoughts on this, you
got thoughts on anything related to this, whether you agree, disagree, totally

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fine with me. We're opening thediscussion for anybody and everybody today. You
can call in it. Four htwo five five, eight eleven ten,
four h two, five five eight, eleven ten News Radio eleven ten Kfab.
Emrie Sunger on news Radio eleven tenKfab did have quite an interesting conversation
about Juneteenth this morning on my IOWAshow, and I enjoyed. I enjoy

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having that discussion because it is something. You know, I'm not super passionate
about holidays. You know, Italk, I make fun of some stuff,
and I bring up whatever, youknow, weird little holiday like World
Otter Day or something like that that'shappening. But I do think that there
are some important days that do makea difference. Now, Joe sent a
very interesting email to me just nowand it says, amazing, isn't it.

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We have free entrance days to nationalparks around the country, and here
are those days. Birthday of MartinLuther King Junior. It's January the fifteenth
and twenty twenty four, a firstday of National Park Week, which obviously
self explanatory National Park Week, firstday of that you can get into national
parks for no admittance. That's Aprilthe twentieth, June teenth, today National

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Independence Day of juneteenth, National IndependenceDay. A lot of people say it's
really the true independence Day for alot of Americans because that was the day
that obviously slavery ended as a realinstitution in America. August the four,
which is the anniversary of the GreatAmerican Outdoors Act, another kind of self
serving thing that was passed in recentyears. That was a Donald Trump era

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late Donald Trump era Great American OutdoorsAct National Public Lands Day. Well.
By the way, Great American OutdoorsAct Day is August the fourth. Free
admittance to national parks. On Septembertwenty eighth, this National Public Lands Day,
a National Public Lands Day was establishedback in the nineties, so that's

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fairly new as well. And thenVeterans Day on November the eleventh. Joe
says, why wouldn't we have actualIndependence Day free of charge at these national
parks? Great question, great question, And my best guess to that is
money. Money. I mean thesame reason that you know, it costs

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as much much money, if notmore money to go to Branson when we
did near Christmas time than it doesotherwise. Right, You're just like,
oh, I'm getting getting gouged.It's kind of like that, except it
doesn't cost that much to go intonational parks. I think the conversation itself
is that these our days, right, we are observing days, but in

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a lot of national parks, Januarythe fifteenth is a day that most people,
I would say, don't have thatoff work unless they're a government employee.
This could be a way to kindof promote attendance to national parks or
maybe get people out that weekend.I don't generally camp in January, but
if you are in a place,you know, like in the southern United
States or Southwest or something, ora ski resort that's the national park,

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maybe the free admittance to the nationalpark on that specific day might get you
out all over the weekend. Obviously, the National Park Day, American Outdoors
Act Day, National Public Lands Day, those three are all that makes sense
because they want people to know theefforts for conservation, the efforts for national
parks in this country, and tomake sure that people can enjoy these for

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decades and decades to come. Thatmakes sense. But then the other the
only holidays, Mlkday, like Isaid in January, I think is just
a way to try to get peopleout that weekend ahead of that Monday.
And then the other two days areVeterans Day, which that makes complete sense
to me. And June teenth,Now, June teenth is the only day
in May, June, or Julythat they talk about the free entrance days

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to national parks. And my guessagain is that this is an opportunity to
get people out when they otherwise maynot have gone out. You don't see
Memorial Day there, you know why, because everybody's filling up campgrounds on Memorial
Day. Well, I think thesame can be said for the fourth of
July or Independence Day. There's goingto be a ton of people that have
already planned out what they're going todo for Independence Day, and a lot

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of people go camping, a lotof people go out and about whether it's
in the middle of the week,whatever way that is being celebrated, whether
it's midweek or near a weekend.People have July fourth on their calendar circle,
and they have plans set up formonths in advance, and it's just
not a money making venture to allof a sudden say hey, on one

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of the incredibly busy days that wealready know that we're gonna have, We're
gonna have free admission. You cansay that that kind of like in Veterans
Day, I don't think they're tryingto knock Veterans Day down to like secondary
level holiday. But Veterans Day happeningin November. Again, how often are
people going to national parks in themiddle of November and November eleventh specifically,
especially like Juneteenth this year where itlands in the middle of the week right

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away, potentially to get people togo to the national parks with fourth of
July Memorial Day, I mean,even Labor Day weekend, Let's be honest,
where a lot of people say that'skind of the last stand for summer,
even though school has started for alot of people by then. A
lot of people use Labor Day.They're not going to give free admission on
Labor Day weekend because they know aton of people are going to be utilizing

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the parks all ready, and they'renot going to forfeit the money that they
know is coming regardless. So whileI appreciate the point that Joe is making
saying, you know, Juneteenth ison this very short list of days that
you can get free admission to nationalparks around America, I do want to
put us into context that it's notalways as deep as we try to make
it. I think it has alot to do with the fact that Juneteenth

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is a new holiday, and thisis a great excuse during the summer to
give like a free day for peopleif they don't feel comfortable paying the very
small price to go into a nationalpark. This is a reason for them
on this random Wednesday in the middleof June maybe to go out to Grand
Teeton for the first time, ifthey live somewhere nearby or they're just in
the vicinity of something on a vacation. That's just my opinion on this.

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Now, if the Biden administration cameout to try to show how woke they
were and Karine John Pierre stands upthere and says, oh, no,
we did that intentionally along with MLKJunior Day, because we want to be
as inclusive as possible, and immediatelyyou can just say, well, you're
not being super inclusive because you havetwo of those and only Veterans Day as
like an they're legitimate, you know, federal holiday that you're utilizing. And

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on top of that, you havethree other days that are just you know,
celebrations of national parks, and theNational American or Great American Outdoors Act,
the National Public Land Day, youknow, so I don't. I
don't read too much into stuff likethat, mostly because at the end of
the day, they also want tomake a little bit of money. The
little bit of money it takes forus to pay to go in there is
the kind of money that it takesto keep those lands going. I have

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no problem donating my money to them, but if they do have free days,
it makes sense for them to makethe free days on days generally people
aren't going to go out of theirway to go to the National parks.
Hope that helps. Do you gotany thoughts on Juneteenth? You got any
thoughts on the holiday specifically itself orthe way that it is being talked about
or maybe utilized as a campaign ployby the left. You can call us
at four h two five five eighteleven ten. Four h two five five

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eight eleven ten. We'll keep thetrain of moving as we go along.
On this June teenth on news radioeleven ten, kfab and are You's songer
on news radio eleven Ta. Sowe were talking about We spent the first
half hour I talked specifically about Juneteenth, the Juneteenth Holiday, and why I
think it matters and why I thinkit's a good thing that we kind of

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put that on the calendar and makeit a day that we can at least
look back on, even though itmay not be relatable for a lot of
us. I certainly can't relate toit. I am as Caucasian as it
gets totally from Germany. As faras I know in my family over the
last several hundred years, there's nota whole lot that I can can add

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to a conversation that absolutely has nothingto do with me, which is kind
of what my point was when wetalked Pride Month a couple of weeks ago.
Had everything to do with the factthat, you know, Pride Month
is something that I can't relate to, but that's not going to stop me
from being okay with people who reallythink that it matters to them. Well,
June teenth is one I really thinkdoes matter for all of us,
because it's a chance for us tolook back at kind of the things that

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mess that our country feels like.We probably messed that up. We didn't
do that as good as we couldhave, but we still wanted to get
it right in the end, andwhen we did get it right, we
consistently been moving forward despite the waythat we you know, we now acknowledged
June teenth, you know, onehundred and fifty years after you know,

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it actually occurred almost gosh, almostone hundred and sixty, almost one hundred
and sixty years after it went down, right, And I sit here as
an American, right And there's onething that kind of was a good analogy
for why it still took another onehundred years for us to get a lot

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further in race relations in this country. And that's the American pastime. The
game of baseball, game of baseballis the American pass time. As far
as I'm concerned, I don't carewhat anybody else says. It is the
greatest game ever invented. It isthe It is the brainchild of people who
are living in this country and theyadjusted already existing games to fit something that

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they thought made way more sense.So there's something American about it that you
just can't take away. There's somethingincredibly American about the way that the game
is played is truly in a lotof ways, the first team sport of
the United States of America. Backin the day, when you talk about

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the United States of America and whatpeople's hobbies were, I mean you'd go
on a stroll, you would.I mean people weren't going on active bike
rides all the time. People wouldmaybe hike and go through the ups and
downs of certain hills and things likethat, but I'm not sure that there
was a whole lot of fun stuffthat was happening as far as hobbies are
concerned on a day to day basisfor people. And now when it comes

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to leisure, we have all thesedifferent options. That's how baseball was born.
It was a leisure thing to do. It was something that anybody could
go do. It really made anadult feel like a child, and that's
that these guys were kind of ratedfor that in the eighteen forties when they
came up with the rules. Fastforward a few few decades, you get
into the eighteen seventies, the gameis much more organized. They create leagues,

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and they realized people want to payto see these guys. Let's pay
the players. They are professional.Let's get the best players that we possibly
can. With an exception, upuntil like the eighteen eighties or so,
there was a sprinkling of either AfricanAmerican baseball players or Native American baseball players,
good athletes who would play these sports, but they were few and far

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between for obvious reasons. Well,the unfortunate thing is there were plenty of
other teams that said, I'm nottaking the field if that guy's got their
playing. One of those stories isMoses Fleetwood Walker, who, by all
accounts from sports writers and contemporaries inthe eighteen seventies and eighties said he was
an incredible ballplayer, but every townthey went to, he couldn't stay in

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the hotel with the team. Everytown that they went to was always a
fight with the other team whether ornot he was allowed to take the field,
and eventually he was blackballed, ifyou will, from baseball forever,
along with every single African American whotried to play the sport at a high
level. They created the Negro Leaguesto try to offset that in the early
nineteen hundreds, and just over thelast couple of weeks, the Negro League

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statistics have now been integrated, ifyou will, with Major League Baseball statistics.
Now I bring up all this andkind of recycle that topic because we
lost one of the great players whowas an African American who started his career
in the Negro leagues before becoming oneof the first dozen professional Major League African

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Americans in the modern era. Andhis name's Willie Mays, the say Hey
Kid, passed away at the ageof ninety three. Yesterday afternoon, the
news broke across baseball. I waswatching the Orioles play the Yankees. Bob
Costas was on the mic, andhe had just got done doing a two
inning interview with Kevin Costner, whichwas just phenomenal. Listen to hear Bob

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Costas and Kevin Costner talking about baseballand movies while two of the best teams
in the American League are playing.It was so great, and it was
on kind of in the background,and then all of a sudden, I
heard kind of a tone change fromBob Costas midway through the game, and
it was when he learned and thenbroke the news to most of the rest
of the world that was watching thatbaseball game that Willie Mays had passed away

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at the age of ninety three.I had a fear that something like this
was potentially happening because they're playing thatRickwood Field game, which is Rickwood Field
in Alabama. It's an incredibly historicbaseball field, one of the oldest in
the entire country, and they dida lot of work on it to kind
of get it up to modern amenities, just enough not to take away from

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the charm of it. They're onlyplaying the one game there, but it's
kind of taken the place of theField of Dreams game that Iowa had a
couple of years there when the WhiteSox and Yankees played, and then the
Cubs and the Reds played, andthe idea is they were gonna it was
celebration of the Negro leagues and WillieMays, who started his career playing in
that ballpark for the Birmingham Black Bearons. He was supposed to be there and

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they were going to do a fullhonoring of him, and that was going
to be tomorrow, and then Ithink it was yesterday, maybe it was
even maybe yesterday, like yesterday morning, maybe even the afternoon before that.
Sometime earlier this week, the campof Willie May said he's just not going
to be able to make Birmingham forthis game. And that was really sad,

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you know. I was like,man, that's such a big deal.
I'm surprised that he's not going tobe there, Considering how big of
a deal this is and the factthat they're playing a Major League Baseball game
on this incredibly historic Negro League's field, and he is kind of like the
one of the last living legends thathave bridged that gap from the Negro League

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still being a thing, and hegot his start as a seventeen year old
playing in that league to a legendin Major League Baseball. And of course,
obviously the sad news that he passedaway yesterday. We'll have so many
great memories of this guy. Andyou want to talk about I know Jim
Rose was posting on his social mediaa lot about this as well. An
exciting player, a guy who isan exact he's he along with Jackie Robinson

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and obviously Jackie Robinson who broke thecolor barrier with Branch Tricky the Brooklyn Dodgers
in nineteen forty seven. Somebody hadto kind of pave the way there.
And Willie Mays a couple of yearslater made his debut in Major League baseball.
He was only the tenth Major leaguerof African American descent in the modern
era, and the style of baseball, the speed, the ability to field

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and throw, he hit and hehit for power, and by the way,
despite all of his great success,we have to remember he missed all
of his twenty two year old seasonin the early fifties serving our country and
Korea. They just don't make himlike that anymore. So many stars,
I mean, you can go backTed Williams in the Stars of the forties,
right. Those guys not only wereour heroes on the field, but

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they also were serving our country andmissed a lot of time. Bob Feller
is another one who missed time andpotentially, you know, stat padding his
resume because serving our country was themost important thing to them. Willie Mays
was the same thing. Military servicetook out his entire age twenty two season.
A legend that will be absolutely unforgettableand on a daylight today where it

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is a celebration of people for AfricanAmerican descent and for people who have been
in this country and want to celebrateall different kinds of cultures, will Willie
May has brought a flair to theAmerican pastime that not many have been able
to match before, obviously or since. And he remains such a synonymous name

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with great baseball, like Babe Ruth, like players in the modern era,
like Mike Trout. They get comparedBarry Bonds compared to Willy Mays, and
that's going to continue forever. Andof course the Willie Mays catch nineteen fifty
four World Series when he's playing forthe Giants, he makes it over the
shoulder catch. Anytime you watch abaseball player and even sometimes in football or

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basketball, they will reference it ifthere's somebody who makes an incredible catch over
their shoulder and say, wow,that was Willy Mays right there. It's
a Willie Mays catch. That catchhappened get this seventy years ago and people
still refer to it as a WillieMays. He is definitely going to be
missed. Willie May's dead yesterday atthe age of ninety three. He got

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thoughts on Willie Mays, got thoughtson the American past time and how far
we've come there as well with thatkind of diversity and acceptance and inclusion.
I'm willing to have that conversation.I know it's not one we have a
whole lot on this radio station,but I think it's a good day to
do that. Our phone lines areopen for you at four oh two,
five, five, eight, eleven, ten, four oh two, five,
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ten KFAB and very song. We'retalking Willie Mays lost the legend in baseball

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and on a day right this istoday, is the day before they were
going to have that Rick wood Fieldgame in Birmingham, which was going to
be a celebration of Negro League heritage, and he was going to be the
guy that they were going to honor. Just sad timing, but now it's
going to mean so much more whenwe remember him watching that baseball game Tomorrow.
Followings are open to four or two, five to five, eight eleven,
ten, and we have Rick onthe line. Rick, thanks so

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much for calling in today. Whatare your thoughts on this? Well,
I was born in fifty seven,so I started taining a lot of attention
to baseball on about sixty seven,a little bit after Willie's prime year.
But I do remembering and some storiesabout him. Man, I'd just like

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to get the ball rolling and tohear from other comments where people might speak
their interest. But one of thethings I remember about Willy Mays was he
was a very humble athlete too.Leo Durocher, the great coach had Willie
coaching when he was a rookie.And of course it's been known that Willie's

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first at that he hit a homerun, which was impressive of itself.
But after that Willie went into aplump and he asked Leo Durocher if he
would send him down to the minorleague. That's how humble he was.
He didn't think he was good enough. Well, Leo says, you're gonna

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just be fine, son, andthe rest is history. So that's the
story that I remember, and Ihope I hear some more from some other
people because he was he was justfantastic. I really appreciate you calling in.
We're going to try to see howmany memories, hopefully people will be
willing to share with us today.I really appreciate your call. Thank you

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very much. The idea of WillieMays, like you talk about the legends
of the sport, any sport,but especially baseball. There's a laundry list,
and there's different people that like differentthings, and obviously a lot of
people who are born long time agoare thinking of players like Babe Ruth and

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even players like Rogers Hornsby, evenTy Cobb Hannus Wagner. I love the
history of baseball. It is suchan interesting sport, and there's so many
different characters through the eras, andevery era kind of has a different vibe
to it. It's one of myfavorite things about the sport. It's kind
of tough to watch it right nowbecause of all the blackout restrictions, the
fact that the rules are changing sofrequently on a year to year basis,

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trying to make it more hip orfaster. I don't hate a lot of
the rules, but it's just anadjustment to make, and I just don't
like a lot of the imbalances thatseem to favor the big market teams.
At the same time, it issuch a beautiful game when it's played at
a high level, and there's noway you can build a Mount Rushmore and
think of the great players of alltime, especially when you talk about like

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outfielders, especially when you talk aboutposition players, Willie Mays has to come
up in that conversation. There's justno way you can tell me that Willy
Mays isn't involved in that conversation insome way. So I'd love to hear
your thoughts on Willie Mays. Memoriesof Willie Mays, whether you saw him
play, whether you have a storyof meeting him or seeing him somewhere,

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or anything like what Rick said,just hearing about him being humble himself.
I'd love to share that with youthe American pastime on a great American day,
talking about a great American Willy Mays, not only a great baseball player,
but a veteran who served in themilitary as well. You can call
in with your thoughts at four ohtwo five five eight eleven ten. Four
oh two five five eight eleven ten. As we reminisce on this, we'll

(31:42):
also get to more news items aswe move through the rest of the show,
and a couple of weird stories thatI've been holding on to that I
think are going to be pretty interesting. We can get some opinions on.
But you can go ahead and giveus a call four roh two five to
five, eight eleven ten to talkabout to say hey, kid, or
anything else that we have on theDOCA today four oh two, five five
eight eleven to ten. My emailsalso open Emery E. M. E.
R Y at kfab dot com.More on the way as we move

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along right here on News Radio eleventen kfab three scheduled games. The first
game was able to be completed.It does look like, for the most
part, a lot of the CollegeWorld Series games could be all right for
the rest of the day. Floridadominant over Kentucky fifteen to four. That
eliminates Kentucky. They are out.Florida now has to regroup re rally quickly

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because they will play Texas A andM tonight. That game scheduled to start
at six. They're not gonna getsix. I don't think they're gonna get
six, but they will wait tillseven or eight o'clock and try to keep
tomorrow as an off day. Tennesseeis playing Florida State right now. That
is an elimination game for only FloridaState. Tennessee has only lost one time,
so if Tennessee were to lose thatgame, then that could change the

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way that things look right now.But Tennessee, if they win that game,
Florida State would be eliminated. Tennesseeflies on into the finals as we
head into the weekend. Texas Aand M and Florid or to will follow
at some point later today. ButI was looking at my radar and it
looks like there's a chance that wecould dodge any of the wet stuff.
Uh. And even if we doget a little bit of rain, as
long as it's not super duper heavy, I'm sure they're gonna try to get

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these games and not have to worryabout pushing them off into Thursday. We
were talking about Willie Mays though,Willie Mays passing away yesterday at the age
of ninety three and tomorrow. Imean, he was just a couple of
days off from this rick Wood Fieldgame, which is going to celebrate the
heritage of the Negro leagues in Alabama, and he was supposed to be uh
remembered, and there was gonna bea huge deal for that. It's just

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a shame he didn't get a chanceto see that. But it's gonna be
a really emotional moment, I'm sureat that game tomorrow. And we're just
kind of sharing some of our thoughtsand stories about to say, hey,
kid, and you can call usat four oh two five five eight eleven
ten. Four oh two, fivefive eight eleven ten on the phone,
Lene, we have Joe. Joe, welcome to the show. What do
you think about this? Hi?Oh, It's said that he wasn't good

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hang on just for a little while, so he could have appreciated all they
event tomorrow. But I was bornin fifty one. My dad was a
Cardinal fan, but we listened togames all the time. But I kind
of liked Willie May has grown upas a kid, just you know,
the way his hat would fly offand he was running the bases and stuff.

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But so I became fan that way. But I actually got a chance
to see him in his last AllStar Game in nineteen seventy three in Kansas
City. He had resigned with theMets. The Giants let him go.
They traded him, I guess yeah. But he didn't start, of course,
and he got in late in thegame as a pitch hitter. But

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the ovation he received was one thatI had never witnessed personally. I never
witnessed the O vision went on andon and on, and man, there
are a lot of kids and alot of older men crying that night.
So I always need to see that. But then I had a chance to
meet him at spring training in theearly nineties. We were fortunate to get

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down to Scotts, Arizona, andhe was in up in the San Francisco
Giants camp and he just came outthe door and I happened to meet him
there with my kids, got tomeet him. They were eight and nine
at the time. But he wasreal, real humble, little, real
gracious and he signed a ball forme with no problem. And told him
we were at seventy at the seventythree All Star Game and he acknowledged it.

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But by that time, you know, he just didn't have the skills
he had in the early fifties,but he was really something to watch.
Yeah, Joe, I got toask from my perspective, right, and
I grew up in the nineties,so like my first real baseball memories are
the home run chase with Sosain Maguireand oh yeah, so I kind of
even missed, like just after thestrike in ninety four, So that was

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my But then, obviously, likethat entire era has been tarnished for a
lot of people based on the steroidsstuff, and we just haven't been able
to build superstars in baseball since.Right. Barry Bonds was kind of the
last guy, and he was hatedas much as he was loved by San
Francisco fans. He was hated byeveryone else. So is there is the
fact that we are overexposed to thesepeople one of the reasons why we don't

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truly appreciate talents like Willie Mays,Or was Willie Mays that unique of a
talent even in an era that hadother great players like Hank Aaron that he
played with. Well, you knowthis is going to get a lot of
arguments for anybody that's a Yankee fan. But a lot of the Yankee fans
thought Mickey Mantle was the best centerfielder ever. Well, he wasn't the

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best center fielder in New York,right, you can look at the stats
and and May's Maye. You know, the Yankees got a lot of publicity
San Francisco didn't really because, especiallywhen he moved to the West coast,
you never heard about him in theMidwest. You know, Yeah, I
don't know. I supposed the overexposurehas a lot to do with stuff just

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but man, but we were wewere in baseball cards and we watched the
game of the week. I wasjust lucky enough to listen to every Cardinal
game on the radio for ever sinceI was growing up. So we listened
to everybody that played the nationally lookedlucky that way. Joe I wish I
wish I could talk to you aboutthis for for hours. Was there a

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favorite player that you had that playedin Saint Louis while you were listening,
because you came like the sixties wasa gold mine for that kind of thing.
Well, my dad was. Mydad was a stand usual fan,
yes, and that's why he listenedto the Cardinals. And the Cardinals were
actually in Omaha for a year ortwo years and years ago they're trible eighteen

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and tro you know, he washe was just a musual fan and so
uh, yeah, that's that's whowe listened to. But we didn't have
the you know, we'd never gottelevision. There were there's just a game
of the week and that was alwaysthe Yankees against Detroit or White Sox or
stuff. We didn't get exposure tillactually cable when we got Atlanta and and

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uh and the Cubs, and thatkind of opened it up to everything.
That opened it up to a lotof kids that could watch a game,
watch a game every day of theweek. Yeah, and you talk about
Atlanta and the Cubs because of WGNand TBS like those were you could watch
almost every game on those stations forthose teams, and so many other teams
were unable to kind of capitalize onthat kind of national exposure as well.

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So, uh, there are somany fond memories that people have with Braves
or the Cubs, or they becameBraves and Cubs fans even though they lived
in the middle of the Midwest likeNebraska, Iowa, just because they were
available to watch. They sure did. I mean there were a lot of
a lot of kids that were Cubsfans because of that. And so yeah,
you get to answer to my opinion, to answer the question, it

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might be overexposure. Now, Imean we follow, you know, we
follow the heroes. Look at youknow, look at Trout you mentioned and
mcannie and those guys. They geta lot of publicity, but you get
an opportunity to see those games now, and that's good. I think that's
good for baseball that kids can watchand who they like because you can You've
got a chance of watch your favoriteteam. Now, yeah, and that

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is fair. It's just a matterof whether or not baseball can kind of
regain a lot of those those fansor that grassroots you know, love of
the game. That they just don'thave now because the NFL and the NBA
have done a much better job ofjust stealing headlines over the last couple of
decades. But Joe, you're gonnahave to call in. I hope that
you listen regularly. I hope you'rea regularly listen. I'm glad to hear

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that, because next time I talkbaseball, and it's not going to be
that long, I'd love you tocall and talk about what we're talking about,
because you're awesome. I'm really appreciateyou calling in. Thanks for having
me. That's awesome. I loveguys like that. I love talking to
people who have a great appreciation forsomething and have a passion for it.
And the history that Joe has withthe game and with his family, What

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an awesome call that was. Ifyou got thoughts, if you've got memories
about Willie Mays that you'd like toshare, you can go ahead and call
into four oh two five five eighteleven ten. Four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. I got plentymore to talk about as well. On
the Way on news radio eleven tenkfab Eh Marie Son on news radio eleven
ten kfab The Big National News rightnow is we have a video that is

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showing and this is actually from awitness, not necessarily a from a body
cam, which I kind of misunderstoodas I watched it for the first time.
But it's a witness video and it'sfrom New York and it's an Ecuadorian
illegal immigrant that was accused of rapinga girl in a park. And I

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tell you what, this is thekind of thing that is just every person's
worst nightmare of I have a relativeor somebody near me, or a child
or a niece or a nephew ora grandkid, or a neighbor and them
just wandering in the wrong spot atthe wrong time, and somebody who has
criminal intentions just to size that they'regoing to They're gonna they're purpose, They're
gonna perpetrate a crime that is absolutelyinsane to most people minds, but they

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think for some reason that they eithershould do it and be they'll get away
with it. It's hard to imagineanyway. It's a twenty five year old
from Ecuador. As mentioned, heis an illegal immigrant. We are led
to believe that he came up throughthe southern border, and this basically is
the guy that they have been lookingfor who was accused of forcing two thirteen

(41:23):
year olds into the woods at apark in New York and forcing them in
there by using a big knife,like a giant knife. Some people have
called it a machete. Okay,that is obviously it's not like a full
on machete, but like a knifethat looks like a machete, and a

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thirteen year old like, what's athirteen year old or two thirteen year old's
gonna be able to do against atwenty five year old man who's telling them
to do this. Apparently they wentand hid in the brush, and police
are saying that he tied both ofthose thirteen year old wrists together and then
he raped the girl and stole theircell phones from them, and then he

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ran away. They had a wantedposter, they had an idea of who
this guy looked like, what helooked like. They were able to find
him, and they spotted him,and apparently a resident in that area just
made a citizen's arrest essentially, andthen the police arrived a little bit later,
but it was a person of interest. They had the crime stopper footage

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of him in the area. Theyshared it on social media. This is
one of the great things social mediahas the ability to do. And they
shared that this is what this guylooks like. If you see this person
twenty five years old, he's aboutthis tall, he wears clothes that look
like this, and you see him, this is the guy that we're looking
for. And they basically didn't evencall the police to say they didn't even

(42:52):
call the police and say, hey, we know where he is. No,
as many as ten different people helpeddetain this guy until police got there.
Now there's a ton of crimes.Apparently he illegally came to the United
States, according to the information wehave in twenty twenty one through that really

(43:12):
big hotspot Eagle Pass, Texas.He was captured there, had that encounter
with the border patrol, which iswhat they do, and then he was
released and led into the country becausethat's your Biden era rules at the border
until the last couple of weeks andit probably had a court date in twenty
thirty or something like that that hewas fined being in the country until then.

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There was all sorts of prior offenses. He was a charge with subway
fair jumping, drinking in public,involved in a domestic violence incident, but
no charges were filed there. Therewas another unspecified arrest in Texas, and
now he was in New York andnow facing kidnapping and endangering the welfare of
a child and rape, among otherthings that he's going to be facing here.

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And for anybody who wants to tellme that, well, this isn't
everybody, not every single person whocrosses the southern border is going to act
like this. You're right, you'reright. But I have to go back
to one of my favorite analogies whenit comes to anything kind of dangerous or
anything illegalish happening at all, includingpeople, you know, just streamlining across

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our southern border. If I gaveyou a bag, like a big pillowcase
type bag, and I told youthat there were twenty snakes in the bag,
and you would be like, Okay, I'll take the bag. I
give you a five hundred bucks ifyou can hold that bag for me and
reach in and pull a snake out. You're like, okay, yeah,

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sure, what's the catch, Isaid, Well, of the twenty snakes
in the bag, one of themis a cobra and it has venom that
could seriously injure you. It'll hurtreal bad when they bite you, and
you're probably going to the hospital,and there's a chance that you might die.
Are you gonna open the bag?Are you gonna take my five hundred

(45:04):
bucks? I think that you'd bethinking twice about that. Now I understand
the odds are even worse than that. Right, I'm gonna give you a
giant tub, like a giant tubfull of of snakes, and I'll tell
you the same thing. I'll giveyou five hundred dollars if you're reaching this
tub of snakes and all of themexcept for one. There's the one hundred
snakes in here. All of themexcept for one, are not gonna hurt

(45:27):
you. They might try to biteyou or squeeze you, but you're gonna
be okay. There's not gonna bea problem. Are you still gonna trust
that you can reach into that tuband pick out a snake blindly? And
you're gonna be okay with that.Let's even expand it to to you know,
one out of one hundred thousands,right, are we okay? Oh?
Like, I'll give you one hundredthousand snakes and you got to pick

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one. But there's a chance thatyou're gonna die if you picked the wrong
one. I mean, the oddsare a lot better than some of you
evil can evil types might be like, yeah, yeah, that sounds like
a fun game to play, orsnake Roulette or whatever. Right, yeah,
sure, Uh, as far asthis goes, you could say the
same thing, except for millions.Right, we're talking seven million people have

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come across this country ish and theBiden administration illegally at the southern border.
They were in a lot of wayscaptured and then released because that was that
were the that was the rules.Open borders. Say, you know what,
they'll have a court date, Nobig deal. We want to be
a humanitarian, lovely situation. Uhyeah, that's exactly what we're looking for
here. The real big question here, and this is this is more than

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any type of thing that I canpossibly tell you, is if there is
even one criminal that comes across thatborder illegally and we are harboring in our
country, we're giving them jumps.And we talked to this I think his
name was Rob. He called init might have been even yesterday and talked
to us about well, we talkedabout illegal immigration. And there's a reason
that we can't just blame the immigrants. And I agree, there are a

(46:59):
lot of immigrants that are coming acrossthe illegally looking for a better life or
the ability to make good money withoutpaying taxes, knowing that workers are needed
up here. But there are companiesthat are totally okay hiring illegal immigrants.
There are you know, different organizationsthat have no problem harboring immigrants. The

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idea of streamlining their ability to befunctional citizens in the country, that's a
different conversation. If there's a waythat we can make the citizenship test better,
there are ways to like, hey, you know what, if you're
going to come into the country inX, Y, and Z way,
then will you know if you wantto do if you show a willingness to

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do this and not break the rulesillegally because these people know better, they
know what they're doing is illegal.If we have the ability to understand that
you want to actually be a partof our society with your family, without
your family, by yourself, wecan have that conversation. We can discuss
that and get you on a fasttrack to get citizenship. I just saw
NASCAR driver Daniel Suarez, who's fromMexico. He just got his citizenship this

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week. Obviously, he's a NASCARdriver, he's very famous, he makes
a lot of money doing what hedoes, and he's been in the United
States for over ten years, sohe has done everything he needs to do
to become a citizen. But ifthere was a streamline operation that we could
do to make it easier for peopleto do this stuff legally, what would
that do to our society? Wouldwe have as many people coming across the

(48:28):
border if we were going to bevery strict on the people trying to break
the rules, but a lot morefriendly to the people who didn't want to
break the rules. I think thepeople who are coming here for humanitarian reasons,
we would be able to give thema good avenue to get here in
a legal sense. And the peoplewho are here trying to create crime,
create chaos, do what this guydid in New York. Talk about the
coyotes, talk about human trafficking,the selling of illegal weapons or drugs,

(48:51):
the way that that negatively impacts ournation, and the fact that we can't
track these people with any sort ofregularity. That is alarming to me.
And we aren't antswering all of theright questions here by just slamming the border
shut right now, because we stillhave seven million illegal immigrants from all over
the world that came up through thesouthern border in the last three years,
and we still have no idea wheremost of them are. We have a

(49:12):
ton of sanctuary cities. We cantry to track them down the best that
we can find, what their identitiesare, where they came from, and
all their history, and whether ornot they could be a terrorist threat like
the ISIS people that were found outa couple of weeks ago. Find out
if they're somebody that has a laundrylist of things that they have violent crime
like this guy. We could findthat stuff out. But the only way
that we can do that is ifwe properly secure the border, learn about

(49:36):
the people that are good people orbad people, turn away the people that
have no interest in being good citizensof whatever community they're trying to go to,
and have the ability to help thepeople that want to be good,
legal and law abiding citizens in thiscountry and give them a faster track to
get there. And I think wecan help solve a lot of these issues.

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But we're going to be paying forthis last three years of illegal immigration
for decades there's absolutely no doubt aboutthat. Even Donald Trump getting re elected
in November. I think it's goingto be a long trek back to try
to get our country right at thesouthern border, and that includes the people
that are already here. You gotthoughts on this, I'd love to hear
from you. Four oh two fiveto five eight eleven ten. Four h
two five to five, eight eleventen is the number three twenty eighth at

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the time you're listening to the newsradio eleven ten kfab Emrie song. Juneteenth
is the federal holiday. Don't belooking for the mail today, it won't
be coming. You were talking abouta few different things before we get back
into the phone lines and our conversationin regards to illegal immigration. Tennessee in
the bottom of the second inning,Tennessee is a for nothing on Florida State.
If Florida State loses, they areout of the College World Series here

(50:43):
in Omaha. If Tennessee were tolose, Florida State comes back, then
both those teams are saddled with oneloss and still remain alive in the tourney.
You look at the NCAA Tournament andthe College World Series tonight. After
that game finishes, they are scheduledto have another one tonight, Texas A
and M taking on Florida. Floridaalready kept their season alive in an elimination
game earlier today, beating Kentucky fifteento four. We'll keep you posted on

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that as the afternoon wheares on.All right, back to the phones.
A four h two, five,five, eight eleven ten is the number
if you're just tuning in. Wewere talking illegal immigration and kind of in
the context of the Ecuadorian who wasarrested in New York by about ten citizens
after he was identified as somebody whowas being looked for by police because he

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is accused of perpetrating a rape andfor kidnapping a couple of thirteen year olds
at knife point and then tying themup in a park in New York City.
Just a terrible, horrific story.And we're talking about this is what
happens when you just don't know whatkind of characters are coming across the southern
border and they're not really interested infollowing our rules. For our loss,
We'll start with Bob. Bob,appreciate you calling in. What's on your

(51:50):
mind? Well, I just wantedto add to your analogy that you had,
but I would like to make ita little more of an impact for
people, because I don't think theyreally understand. Okay, fireway. So
first of all, there shouldn't bea reward for reaching your hand in the
bag of snakes, because I don'tknow that there's really an upside to illegal
immigration, so therefore you shouldn't benefitfrom it, regardless of the outcome.

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That's the second. The second thingwould be that it's not your hand that's
going in that bag of snakes,that your daughters or your granddaughters. Now,
because it's not you that it's atrisk. It's our children and our
grandchildren are the ones that are goingto pay the price for this. No,
it makes a lot of sense,Bob. I do know that there
are some people in this country thatare going to argue that illegal immigration really

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isn't all that bad. It providesus workers, it helps with stimulation to
certain parts of our economy. Butthose people don't see the larger impact that
this could have, even if thereare some benefits theoretically to very small factors.
In the conversation, there's absolutely nodoubt that what you said is correct.
This isn't even just about us.This is about our children. It's

(52:58):
about our nieces, our nephews,and even the children beyond that. Because
a lot of these people who arein this country illegally and they are perpetrating
a variety of crimes, violent crimes, they don't even have a court date
set up for what they did atthe southern border, coming across illegally until
the twenty thirties, I mean,so long in the future. And I
want people to understand I'm not againstimmigration. Sure to look at how it's

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termed. It's illegal immigration. Ifyou're coming into the country with the zero
intentions of following the laws, we'vegot enough of those people here. We
don't need anymore. If you wantto go through the channels and you want
to jump through the hoops, andyou want to do it correctly, by
all means, if you're coming hereto make your life better, your family's
life better, then by all means, do it. But if you're coming

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in under a shroud of illegal actions, we don't want. We don't want
that, we don't need that.If you're doing it illegal, there is
no upside because you're already coming inas a burden to society. You know
what, Bob, you are verygood at this. You should take my
job please, Hey, no,no, no, thank you Hey,

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powerful stuff. Though, Man,I really appreciate you calling us and giving
your perspective on this today. Allright, thank you. Yeah, we'll
go now to John. John.I really appreciate you for holding being on
our show today. What are yourthoughts? Hello? John? Are you
there? John? Johnny? John? Oh? John? R P No

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John. Yeah. So, unfortunatelyJohn did not get the memo or did
not listen to the radio in thatvariety of ways. So we got Brian
on our phone line. Though,Brian is on our line. Brian,
welcome to the show. What's onyour mind? Yeah? I wanted to
let you know that I have someacquaintances in the Three Letter Agencies, and

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they tell me that that the Mexicancartels are pretty much carving out parts of
the US, taking out territories,and that it's already pretty much all the
Southwest has gains assigned to each majorcity in smaller cities too, and then
it's only a matter of time beforethey come to the Midwest. So I
think that we have to understand thateverybody comes across the Mexican border is indebted

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to the Mexican cartels that they areindentured servants. Essentially, they're no better
than really speaking about slavery. There'smodern slavery that's going on today. It's
not just a historic fact. Andwe are more than putting our families in
danger, in our future families.It's a very real and present danger that
we have to deal with. Wecan't push you foot around with it and

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say, oh, there's some benefitsmaybe labors. Yeah, no, no,
And Brian, I don't want thatto come across. I'm just like
I'm presenting the angles or the angulardiscussion from people on the other side that
say, well, this is whyan open border is positive, because I
don't think that everybody who says illegal, like I get the humanitarian aspect of
it, and I get that theremight be some benefits to different parts of

(55:58):
it. If you're going to tryto explained to me why you want an
open border, it's not going tobe something I'm ever going to advocate for.
But I have to ask from yourconversations, is there a legitimate solution
that we can take to help resolvethis except just slam the door shut.
Because there's still so many people thatare already here. Well, there's absolutely
not an easy solution. If thereis, there's no easy solution. When

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you are so completely deficit of anycontrols or any consideration over the safety of
the US for so long, it'sgoing to it's going to require harsh solutions,
and that's unfortunate. But we caneither keep this country or we can
abandon it. At this at theweek we're going, it's more to the
abandoned say, this country will notreflect what we see today in ten years

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if this is allowed to continue,Brian going to be like it's going to
be just like an extension of Mexico. Brian, I really appreciate your thoughts
today and thanks for calling in.Really appreciate your impact here. You're welcome
to play. Uh Yeah, everythingthat he said, there's a good note.
And anybody that has, you know, that kind of conversation with people
that are in those you know,like ICE or the three letter agencies like

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he referred to, there are goingto be people that have a lot more
intelligence and stuff like that than wedo. And whether or not they are
like ICE, I'm certain that thereare a lot of illegal immigration pockets that
are here, but specific specifically likethe cartels and how they're operating in like
Native American lands and stuff. Andthat's why Christy Noman is completely banned off

(57:29):
of the off the reservations of allthe Native tribes in that area, because
she is trying to call them out. I'm not a big fan of hers,
but she's calling them out and tryingto say, hey, you know,
like there is there are ways thatcartels can operate there and under kind
of the the guys of Night,if you will, if they provide some

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of the money to the people thatare hiding them. And I don't want
to assume anything, because I'm surethat's happening all closer to home than we
think it is. Dawn's on ourphone line at four h two five five
eight A line in don Thanks forthe call today. What do you think
about this? Well, I wantto venture back to the way immigration used
to happen in the United States.My godfather, Joe, was from Poland

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and he had to be sponsored inby his uncle who was here in the
late forties. Joe came in inthe fifties. Joe sponsored his brother who
came in in the seventies. Whohad to work here for a certain number
of years to sponsor in his wifeand adult sons in nineteen eighty one,

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so it's not been that long.And the sponsor you had to prove that
you had contacts in the United States, a place to live, a trade,
and a skill. So why doyou think all that changed to don
you know? I think it changedfor a lot of reasons. A type

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of immigration changed, and Europeans stillhave if they want to come to the
United States. It's the demographics.We're now getting more southern migration. Yeah,
and it's easier because it's it's youdon't have to cross an ocean and
come into a port. You know, you can't just swim across the ocean.

(59:22):
And also there's so many, there'sso many that they can't they can't
process them right. And yeah,the court dates are, you know,
not eight or nine years out rightnow for illegal immigrants. And it's just
it just happened just now a coupleof weeks ago with that executive order from
Biden that they're not letting people withnot citizenship status into the country. It

(59:43):
took them three years and seven millionillegal immigrants to come in for them to
be like, Okay, that wasenough, let's go ahead and shut the
door. But it's crazy, Don, because I hear the opposition tell me
like reason ABC as to why openborders would be an okay idea at a
variety of ways. But at theend of the day, I just don't
understand why any of those things wouldbe worth the risk of all the bad
things that could be happening. Well, it's that the predix immigration came in

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with the trade so that they werenot going to be siphoning or living off
of the government. They would beadding to the value of our culture and
adding to the value of the economy. Right, and they would want to
be here. It's not just themtrying to take advantage of our situation and
then go back wherever they came from. Right exactly, Yeah, exactly.

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It's tough. Don appreciate the call. Thanks for listening to us today.
Thank you. If you've got thoughtson legal immigration, you can call us
four oh two five five eight eleventen. Four h two five five eight
eleven ten. Really interesting stuff andnot a lot of positives that come out
of it. And really appreciate thediscussion today, and you can be a
part of it, and we'll talkto you next. It is three forty

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eight News Radio eleven ten. KfabEmrie's sung speaking of illegal immigration today in
the context of the dangers of someof the people that are coming in across
the southern border in the last fewyears, not wanting to do anything other
than create trouble in a place wherethey feel like they can live with an
invisibility cloak, like Kerry potter Woodrunning around Hogwarts, except it's the United

(01:01:10):
States of America, and instead ofjust trying to figure out and solve which
professors are good or bad, insteadthey are actually going out and committing violent
crimes around our communities. Mike's onour phone line at four h two five
five eight eleven ten. Mike,Welcome to the show. What's on your
mind? You know they're thrown outan estimate of five hundred thousand and stuff
like that. Joining in the governmentnever estimates, right, don't thing The

(01:01:32):
estimate ever highs your taxes, everything. All their other estimates have always so
far low. They're off the youknow, not even on the scale.
And when you start looking at whatBiden is not addressing when he comes on
here with there's little pressures and everythingis that once these people get you know,
they're married, they're okay, great, they're gonna give him citizenship or
a path. And then once thathappens, then they open up the back

(01:01:52):
door for the chain migration that willfollow because now they're going to start bringing
in the families under this. Guys, we need to do this and we
need to be this right country.But if you want to see how migration
and open borders have affected countries,just look at the European Unions and the
change in those countries. Cities thatare now being you know, not even

(01:02:14):
represented what they were even ten fifteenyears ago. And it's not just the
you know, the southern of theLatinos that are coming in. I mean
obviously they've documented, you know,the amount of single fighting age Chinese that
are coming across the border, thethe you know, the Middle Easterns that
are coming across the border, theyou know, the the other nations that

(01:02:35):
are coming across that have spent alot of time just to get to that
point. And you know, thenthey throw in the daka issue, Oh
we need to do this, andI'm like, okay, they want to
make the they say, oh,it's not the children's fault there here say
fine, okay, bring up theDACA child. You're going to stay,
name your parents. Your parents knewwhat they were doing, They're going back.
Yeah, And I mean it's justit's going to be a vicious circle.

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But nobody in politics has Look,you used to sit there and just
really come out and say, youknow, slam the border shut until we
get this figured out. Yeah.Even Reagan's when his big bill, Oh
we're going to stop this, andthat thing was a complete disaster. Yeah,
it never stopped anything. Is justonce again that numbers go up.
I don't think they really have agood valid number of how many people are

(01:03:22):
in this country illegally or you know, however you want to determine. And
I still think it's illegal as silencecall them migrants or whatever. But yeah,
no, and Mike, what you'resaying makes a lot of sense.
It's it's an ever evolving problem.It's not like it's ever truly been solved
in the modern era. I meanin my lifetime, it's never been like
one hundred percent solved. But it'sjust kind of evolving into different things.

(01:03:45):
And obviously it became a huge issuewhen all of these people, like you
said, you know, you're probablyeven getting low estimates on the numbers that
are coming across on a day today basis. But there's no doubt to
me that it's something that needs tobe addressed. And I just don't know
what the right answer is, exceptfor literally having a physical barrier across the
entirety of the border and making ita lot easier for people to be processed

(01:04:08):
if they are trying to cross illegallyand then be sent back where they came
from the people that are already here. I don't know if that's a solvable
problem, at least in the verynear field. It probably never will be.
But I think the other thing weneed to address is, unlike other
countries, you know, we've gotthe fourteenth Amendment that says, oh,
you're born here, you're a citizen. I have seen stats and numbers,

(01:04:29):
you know, they show them everyonce in a while about how much money
is being shipped out of this countrybecause now you come here and let's say
you have three or four kids,and now they're citizens, and now you
realize, I go back across theboard, we send millions of dollars out
of this country. Yeah, forage dependant children of non citizens because their

(01:04:49):
kids were a bit born here.And I think that's another thing that eventually
we need to look at. Granted, at the time it was designed to
to bring, you know, therelease slaves into the country. Yeah,
for sure. And now it's justit's just a tool. Yeah, it's
being it's apool, that's being it'sbeing abused, is what's happening. And
Mike, I Appreciate'm running out oftime this hour, but I really appreciate

(01:05:09):
the call man, Thanks so muchfor listening. Yeah, that's a great
discussion and good talking points for Mikethere. And if you've got thoughts,
you can call us on illegal immigrationas well. Four oh two five five
eight eleven ten. Four oh twofive five eight eleven ten. We really
appreciate having these different angles, thesedifferent perspectives on such a tough issue to
discuss in a reasonable way because somany people just want to throw political parties

(01:05:31):
into the mix. It's really nota political party conversation, folks. It
is a real problem for all Americans. More on the Way on news Radio
eleven ten kfa B five to fiveeight eleven ten is our phone number here.
Very pleased to be with you eachand every day, And uh,
we're going to do a quick hardleft turn from what we're talking illegal immigration
and kind of some of the thingsthat are happening when you have bad people

(01:05:55):
crossing the border and hiding amongst alot of people, and we just are
letting them do what they want todo in our country for the eight or
nine years before they have a courtdate. We're not letting them do that.
But they basically feel empowered to breakour rules because it's the first thing
they do when they get here isthey have actively broken our rules, are
our laws and come across the border. Well, speaking of rules in breaking

(01:06:16):
laws and trying to create a problem, but in a very different way.
Are these protesters Specifically, I'm goingto talk about a climate activist group,
but before I do that, Iwant to talk to you about a story
I had at the College World Serieson Saturday. I was wandering around downtown.
My wife and I were going tohang out, enjoy the festivities in

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and around the ballpark village and hangout at some of the bars, just
have a good time with all theaction that's happening. And the thing that
the literal first thing that happens iswe park the car. I'm one of
those people. I don't like topark right next to the field if I
don't have to, or if Ilike, I will if I have a

(01:07:00):
pass. If I don't have apass, then I'm not going to do
that. But if I have topay for it, then I'm going to
park far away. I have noproblem walking and uh park you know by
the holl And Center, even furtheraway and just walk down. It's not
a big deal to me. Well, as I got out of my car
on Saturday, I heard, well, I saw first this group of people

(01:07:26):
that was kind of approaching just behindus, kind of like a half block
away, and they had Palestinian flagsand will it looked at be an American
flag. It wasn't an American flag. It was just an American flag that
was upside down, which of courseis a sign of like an SOS if
you will. This one is certainlydone in this context in a very disrespectful

(01:07:48):
way to the flag itself, butagain not technically illegal. And of course
they got the kiefas and like whateveryou call them, the scarves that look
like they're from the Palestine area,and gaza and all that stuff, and
had a guy in the front.It is like twelve people. This was
not a large group, but itwas like twelve people and they the guy

(01:08:12):
in the front had a megaphone He'scarrying in one hand and like talking in
with the other and it's like thoseregular chants of you know, it's kind
of like if they were on strike, you know, like the chants there's
many dead, you know, thirtyfive thousand killed or whatever, right,
And then there was a woman thathad another one that was like echoing that
while the rest of them without thelike the people who are holding the flags

(01:08:36):
they are they're just chanting it back. And my first thought. My first
thought isn't like, Okay, whyare they doing this right now? Because
obviously I've been following all the proteststhat are happening around the rest of the
country, but there is absolutely likenothing here that made me feel like,

(01:08:58):
oh wow, yeah, powerful message. There's none of it, Like you
don't think that in that situation.This is the kind of protest where I
just thought, what are you guysdoing? Like why would you do this
on a Saturday? Like what Losersays, this is what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna pester the people that aregoing to baseball games on a beautiful Saturday

(01:09:18):
afternoon, and I'm gonna do thisto a point where, like people,
there's there's absolutely nothing I'm doing exceptdisrupting everyone else. That's it. That's
the only thing that was happening.All these people are just literally trying to
disrupt the flow of society because theydon't like what's going on, or they

(01:09:41):
feel better because nothing's going to changebased on what they're doing. I'm not
saying protesting is worthless or powerless,but it's the way that you do it
and the things that you are protesting, the stuff that they're like what they're
talking about. Nobody at the CollegeableSeries is gonna hear that and be like,
oh, yeah, those guys areright, Yeah I heard about that.
Wow, I can't believe that.No. What is way more impactful

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I think on that level is havingreal discussion, and I don't think the
College World Series is the right placefor it. And all I was thinking,
I'm sure most of the other peoplethat were down there were thinking the
same thing. And I don't evenknow about the kids that probably asked,
what are those people there for andtheir parents have to try to explain what
they're chanting about and what they're talkingabout in the fact that they're six seven

(01:10:28):
thousand miles away from any of whatactually is happening. And good luck to
them if they ever decided they wantedto go over to Palestine, because those
people would have them, you know, tangled in knots like a pretzel,
trying to explain themselves when they seethe way that they're dressed or their lifestyle
choices here in the United States.But that's neither here nor there. My
entire thing was I can't imagine anybodythinking that they have won them over.

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And my first thought is what loseris doing this on a Saturday afternoon of
the College World Series and they didn'tgo into the ball park village. They
were just like marching around the downtownarea with all the people, traffic and
all that stuff. I just butI just couldn't believe it. It's like
if they did it for attention tomake themselves feel like they did something today.
Okay, I guess that's fine,you didn't break any laws. But
I can think that you're a fool. I can think that you're a loser,

(01:11:15):
and that's what I did, youknow what I mean. And I
didn't think about them except for youknow, content on my radio show.
If I didn't have content to youknow, if I didn't have an audience
that might be interested in hearing aboutthat, I would have not thought about
them again the rest of the day. Not the way that things are supposed
to go. This climate activist group, though in the United Kingdom, decided
they were going to be a littlebit more disruptive. Two people showed up

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at Stonehenge. You know, I'venever been, but I've heard beautiful place
in a place where a lot ofpeople go to kind of try to understand
things like nobody really knows how itgot there or why it happened that way.
Well, this group called just StopOil, imagine that Just Oil.
They are behind an incident at StoneHinge where twenty one year old Neam Lynch

(01:12:09):
and seventy three year old Rejan Naydoboth ran with orange spray canisters and spray
painted parts of the rocks at Stonehenge. Ugh. And of course they have
video of this and there are peoplethat are in that vicinity trying to tackle

(01:12:31):
them and pull them away and Obviously, you don't want to hurt a seventy
three year old man who's trying totake part in one of these activism things,
trying to feel like he's doing goodwork. Here I tell you what
the video I mean, it's justlike again, my first thought is what
what losers are doing this? Well, anyway, this is what they said.

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They said they are demanding the incomingUnited Kingdom government commit to working with
other governments to create to agree onan equitabal plan to end the extraction and
burning of oil, gas and coalby twenty thirty. This continues their quote.
This is a Oxford student, NeamLynch. Of course she's an Oxford
student. She's twenty one years old, and she says on her social media

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or she told somebody this stonehinge atSolstice is all about celebrating the natural world,
but look at the state it's in. We all have to a right
to live a life free from suffering, but continued burning of oil, coal
and gases leading to death and sufferingon an unparalleled scale. It's time for

(01:13:41):
us to think about what our civilizationwill leave behind. What is our legacy?
Standing inert for generations? Works wellfor stones, not climate policy.
Uh yeah, okay, okay,not like this is the same kind of
you know, people that are throwingpaint on like the Mona Lisa or copies

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of really important artwork, or defacingstatues in Washington, DC. Right,
Orange some sense that according to justStop Oil, you know, they claim
all this stuff. They have alsoclaimed on their social media that the orange
spray paint that it looks like they'reusing is cornstarch and allegedly will wash away
easily either from rain or for somebodytrying to clean it. But a seventy

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three year old I guess that justhas nothing left to lose. And a
twenty one year old Oxford student whoprobably read a book somewhere and thought that
she could change the world by spraypainting stunt hinge and getting famous that way.
I just have to ask, doingthis stunt is going to change whose
opinion about what you're talking about?You're demanding this of the incoming United Kingdom

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government to work with other governments,as if they have any control over that,
to get an agreement done to stopburning fossil fuels within this decade,
and your answer to try to dothat was to spray paint Stonehenge. All
I can think of is what losersAnd if somebody out there who for some

(01:15:09):
reason agrees with this now all ofa sudden like this was Wow, I'm
surprised. I'm impressed. Incredible stuff. I think I agree with their plight.
Now we can certainly discuss the environmentand certainly discuss emissions and try to
figure out ways to kind of mixin, you know, moving forward and
trying to help the environment. Ihave no problem discussing that as adults,

(01:15:32):
but doing this, I'm not gonnawant to be on your side of anything.
I just find you to be giganticlosers. And I guess I if
somebody was actually like one over bythis kind of stunt, I'd love to
hear from him, like, whatmade you change your mind based on this
act? I just I don't thinkanybody would. It's just crazy to me.

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I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, But if you, if you
have thoughts on it, you cancall in four h two five five eight
eleven ten four h two five fiveeight to eleven ten. More on the
way stick Around on news radio eleventen kfab em Marie Sunger on news radio
eleven ten Pfab Florida still stayed aliveby their giant victory. As you just
heard over Kentucky earlier today. Thatgame started this morning after being moved from

(01:16:20):
last night. Florida is supposed toplay again tonight against Texas A and M.
Based on what I'm seeing right now, even if there might be like
a few like little pop ups herethere of like threats of potential rain or
a good chance that maybe we getsome sprinkling or something like that, I
don't think that they're going to haveany problem getting this game in. They
started a game at ten pm onSaturday last weekend that was another Texas A

(01:16:45):
and M game, I don't thinkthey're going to have a whole lot of
problems with getting that game. Andeven if they started like eight or nine
o'clock tonight and just letting that go, because they certainly want to keep tomorrow
open just in case the schedule findsa way if Florida State loses, Tennessee.
By the way, Florida State isout, Tennessee is on their way
to the finals, and we'll definitelyhave to take a look at that coming
forward. Before we get into thiscrazy story about this guy from this Collegen

(01:17:11):
Wisconsin. Jim emailed me and talkedabout the Stonehenge stunt by these climate activists,
and this is a great angle tothis as well. This is more
than just you know, how dumbI think this twenty one year old who's
at Oxford and the seventy three yearolds who I'm guessing just hangs out with
college kids. I have no ideahow he's involved in this, but they're
anti fossil fuel, climate activists orwhatever. And Jimmy emails in and says,

(01:17:32):
can you imagine that here you area graduate of one of the foremost
universities in the world, and allyou have to look forward to in life
is a life of activism. Thisyoung woman will never get any kind of
real job in anything but yelling intoa megaphone. Can you imagine how proud
her parents must be at the tremendousamount of tuition money they have wasted?
What fools? You know what?I am one hundred percent on board with

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that. Think about that right now. A kid is like, she's a
kid twenty one years old. Iunderstand that after you're eighteen years old,
you're kind of on your own.And like I said, I've seen.
I've watched a couple of leftist moviesjust to you know, like expose myself
to some of that, and theideology is just kind of I mean,
it's out there. You're never gonnaunderstand it because we're not built of that

(01:18:15):
ilk, especially because it's so manyyoung people that are doing this and they
feel like they have a reason tohave this type of activism, But they
aren't doing this to try to changethe world. They're doing this because they
want to feel good about themselves.And that's the bottom line straight up.
And that's the unfortunate part about this. This is a selfish move by them
more than it's a selfless move bythem, because they think by damaging property

(01:18:36):
or damaging nature or damaging statues,somehow they're going to get their way.
But that's not really how it works, and they know at the end of
the day that's not how it works. What ends up working is the fact
that they get to go home andfeel like they accomplish something in their life
because they have no other skills.At least I approve me one. I'd
love to see this woman in thisseventy three year old man tell me what
they can actually accomplish in the worldbesides yelling into a megaphone like Jim's so

(01:18:58):
eloquently, put four or two,five, five, eight, eleven tins
a number before we jump out out. Uh at the bottom. Here John's
on the phone line, and John'sgot a story about Willie made. So
John, appreciate you calling back inhere. What you got on your mind
today? Hey, Amory, thanksfor taking the call. You know,
I was busy listening. I wasworking listening to the stories. And I
know it's a subject retro back,but you know, going back to Willie

(01:19:23):
May's days, he was never fasterthan he was when he was clipped with
a closed pin to my spokes onmy on my bicycle, my swin.
Oh yeah, because we used onlythe best cards. If only we had
those cards today, we might bemilking. Yeah. Sure, Hey John,
do you want to talk about Americana? Right, you want to talk

(01:19:45):
about Americana? You you get thatclothesline, you know, uh, you
know thingy and you put that inthe spoke of the wheel with the card
and I mean, you have thatbad boy up going down the coldest sac.
You were the coolest kid in theworld. Well, we tried to
be and we had our cool wraparound sunglasses back then too. Oh yeah,
those wrap arounds. Hey, thewrap around is kind of coming back

(01:20:05):
a little bit these days. Idon't know if you've seen that. You
live long enough, it all comesback. Yeah. I'm not on board,
though, John, I hate tosay it. I'm a I see
these eighteen year old that look likefrat boys with their fishing shirts and their
crocs along with their sunglasses that wrapall the way around, and I'm just

(01:20:25):
kind of like, you know what, that looks not for me. That's
the kind of look that would havegotten me beat up when I was in
school, you know, ten fifteenyears ago, you know what I mean.
So uh, but you know what, Like you said, John,
it's all cyclical. It all comesback around eventually. Yeah. I just
wear transition glasses. Now that's afishing and they seem to work. Hey,

(01:20:48):
it's all about efficiency. I loveit, John, appreciate you calling
in and listening to us today.Man, thanks for it for the call,
and you know, have a greatrest of you night. I love
the show. I'm always glad tohear Roger on the radio. Yeah,
Roger, my guy, Roger doingthe phone By the way, Roger hop
on here real quick. I reallyappreciate you for for stepping in today.

(01:21:10):
All right. You got to givemad a few days off every now and
then. You know, I wasgonna ask him. You know, it's
like, hey, do you everI've been here a year and there's been
like four or five days total thathe's just been gone. That's it.
And it's just kind of like,you know what, man like take a
load off. Yeah, well,you have to blow off some steam every
now and then you have to takea day here and there, or even

(01:21:31):
a week, even a week.And guess what, I'm gonna be taking
three weeks off here in the future. I got one week in late July
and into August, and then twoweeks in September that I'm off. So
I'm gonna be taking advantage of that. But I appreciate you coming in screening
screen all right, glad to doit. All right. We appreciate team
effort here at kfa B. Speakingof we're gonna talk about a guy who
was working for a while at auniversity as a professor. In fact,

(01:21:53):
he was a chancellor. I'll talkabout why he's not anymore in his fight
against that that's coming up. It'sa wild story, I tell you on
news Radio eleven ten kfab Emery's songerShare it with someone you love. A
lot of fun to be had inand around Omaha, especially during College World
Series. I'm a guy that likesto have a lot of fun, having
fun with my friends, having funwith my wife. Sometimes my family's in

(01:22:17):
town or I'm over with them inIowa, and we have a great time.
There's no doubt fun is what weshould be having. We'll have fun
next week at that debate viewing partyat Buffalo Wings and Rings. But I
will say this, and I tohate to be the bearer of bad news.
Sometimes your hobby can get you inan awful lot of hot water,

(01:22:39):
depending on what your job is.So what is the story here. Well,
in Wisconsin, there's a college calledthe University of Wisconsin at Lacrosse.
It's a branch off of the Universityof Wisconsin, as you could probably guess,
and one of their chancellors has beenfired. Yes, he has been
fired. He's got a hearing totry to keep his faculty job. He's

(01:23:03):
been there for seventeen years, buthe's just been removed by the Board of
Regents as a chancellor in the lastfew months, and he's got a huge
hearing coming up to decide whether ornot he should be completely fired as a
faculty member. The guy's name isJoe Gow And what did Joe Goal do

(01:23:24):
that got him in so much trouble? Well, this is a guy who
makes adult videos with his wife,sometimes with additional adult film stars and posting
them on two websites for adult viewing. They also have written and published two

(01:23:49):
books about the hobby that they have. Now, again, I am not
one hundred percent, not one hundredpercent certain that I'm interested in fully doing
this right. I know that alot of people might have some curiosity and

(01:24:11):
they might seek actively seek, youknow, the stuff that this guy was
up to. That's not going tobe me. But anyway, a complaint
by a system president from the Universityof Wisconsin, Jay Rothman, he filed
with that college that indicated that investigatorswill look into whether Joe Goal has violated
any state laws or policies by usingpublic positions for private gain and also on

(01:24:35):
disclosure of financial activities. So he'scited for a few different things as to
why he may lose his job.They are as follows unethical and potentially illegal
conduct, failing to cooperate with theinvestigation, violating information technology use policies.

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Now, again, this is guywho was a chancellor. It might be
a little bit different if he wasn'tas elevated at the university as he was,
But there's a there's a thing herethat he wasn't actually doing anything specifically
illegal. So this hearing is focusingon whether or not this guy can actually
be a faculty member and teach stillat this university. Something he's willing to

(01:25:20):
do. He's willing to fight forhis right to do this, and of
course that means he could lose aton of money. He could lose pension.
There are all sorts of different thingsthat are here. The hearing itself
is going to be taking place,and it's going to be very public because
he wants it to be. Hewants people to see him, I guess,

(01:25:41):
as a martyr of some sort ofnegative or bad rule here. But
I guess my biggest thing is whatour kids at this college like now that
this is so public, Right nowthat this is public, what in tarnation

(01:26:06):
are you to think if your kidhas Joe Goal as a professor, or
what are you going to think ifyou have Joe Goal as a professor before
and does that change now that you'reaware of this sort of thing and the
fact that he might be able tokeep this job after all after this hearing.
Right, this is a bigger question, right, I'm not here to

(01:26:30):
judge anybody's hobbies. Right, It'snot my I wouldn't want people, you
know, texting or calling me,not that it would bother me all that
much. And say that my hobbiesof sports watching, running, bird watching,
camping, hiking, you know,hanging out with animals, volunteering at

(01:26:51):
a zoo, places like a zoo, talking to people about my greyhounds,
like the things that I really enjoyeddoing, playing back basketball. A lot
of those are pretty common. Noneof those are going to make a ton
of headlines. I mean. Thebiggest thing is, you know, some
of the zoo stuff, I guesscould be controversial for the uneducated group of
people that want to act like theyare activists even though they don't really know

(01:27:14):
what they're talking about. Those thoseare the people that might have the biggest
problem with the stuff that I'm into. Other than that, like, I
don't have a lot of stuff that'ssuper duper controversial. I would say I
would put making adult films and postingadult films to adult film websites. I
would imagine that would fall under thecategory of pretty strange or you know,

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you find that out about somebody andyou kind of look a different way,
right. I once knew these peoplein my previous city that I was living
in, and we were not superduper friends with them, but we were
acquainted and we had seen each otherthrough mutual friends on a few different occas.

(01:28:00):
I had conversations with them. Youknow, there's always something to talk
about. Well, the biggest questioncame up when they were talking about their
personal lives. And I say thatas personal, this is as personal as
it gets. We didn't ask thisis something. This is information that was

(01:28:23):
volunteered to us at a dinner tablewhen we were out at a restaurant with
you know, like four other people, and I'm guessing they all had been
told this already, but they toldus of their life as uh swingers.
They told us of what the youknow, like they one of the things

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that they like to do is theylike to do that. And for me,
you know, I'm not super educatedin that scene, so I just
kind of asked how it works.I thought, you know, they opened
the door. I figured, youknow, I could at least entertain the
conversation a little bit and try reallyhard to just be like, you know,
I'm an inquisitive person. I wantto know things. So it's kind

(01:29:06):
of, you know, like,how does it well? You know,
they were very open and honest,and they didn't seem like that perturbed about
it or anything, and it's like, oh, okay, I guess that's
it's interesting. You know, Ican't not think of that every time I
think of these people. It completelychanged the complexion of my relationship with them,
even though we weren't great friends.It's like I kind of didn't want

(01:29:28):
to hang out with those guys anymore. I just like, not that I
disagree with their lifestyle, because again, who am I to tell people how
to live? I'm not. I'mnot like great at life. I didn't
write no manual on being awesome atliving life. Whatever works for people works
for people. It is what itis. But it's just an uncomfortable feeling
that every time I was going tosee them, all I could think about

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was the fact that you know,they're paling around with other couples and just
kind of trading spouses for the night. And it's a weird feeling for me.
I couldn't imagine being a twenty yearold student at college and you know,
the university was constantly crosse no disrespectto them, But you don't hear
that specific college being listed as youknow, like the Harvard's and Yalees and

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all these other places that you couldpotentially, you know, be a part
of. Right, Like, thisisn't one of those institutions where you're regularly
thinking, oh, you know,like that is a really great place to
hire learning. There's probably a tonof kids that are really intelligent that go
to that school. But when youhave Joe Gough as your professor and you
might like him, he might bea real personable guy. There are a

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lot of eclectic individuals that were inmy college, small small town college,
but those eclectic individuals that were partof that faculty, and they were teaching
kids stuff and all the different thingsthat I was learning, and I was
like, you know what, yeah, yeah, I do feel like I

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enjoy going to a class that hasa very you know, crazy type personality.
Teacher, I learn a lot more. It's a lot more engaging in
Sinna just sitting here and like fallingasleep in the middle of like a random
lecture with somebody who's not interesting.Maybe Joe Gal was like that. But
if I found out that this professoris making adult movies with his wife,
or or he's not even up he'sbehind the camera or whatever, and I

(01:31:19):
find out that he's openly and admittedlydoing this, and he and his wife
have written and published two separate booksabout that. Obviously it's a big part
of their life and they're really intoit. You know, I have no
choice but to feel like, youknow what, I don't know if I
want to be in Joe Gal's classanymore. It's just a huge distraction.
Every time I see Joe Gow,I'm just gonna feel like, Wow,

(01:31:40):
that's the professor that makes adult films. This is the guy whose favorite thing
to do in his free time isto, you know, get busy in
front of a camera. I don'tknow. Maybe I'm the only one that
feels this way. Obviously, we'regonna find out what the University of Wisconsin
and their Board of Regents eventually haveto say. About this. But as
far as him be removed the chancellorand potentially as a faculty member, I

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guess those are the perils of havingsuch a controversial hobby. Whether or not
he actually broke any rules or youknow, that's up for the interpretation of
whatever this hearing is going to be. But man, it is a weird,
weird and wild story, and Ican't help but feel like old Joe's
kind of backed himself into a cornerhere. You got thoughts on this?
You got a weird hobby that youhave no problem sharing. I suppose we

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can leave your name anonymous. Ifyou don't want your name out there,
but you want to share your hobby, you can call in at four h
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to five, eight to eleven ten. More on the way on news radio
eleven ten KFAB. They're in thetop of the seventh Tennessee batting with the
lead five nothing is the score andTennessee wins this game. Florida State has
eliminated Tennessee into the finals as thenumber one seed in the turning. In

(01:32:45):
fact, the number one seed doesn'tusually do very well in Omaha. They
they in fact, I think onlyonce, maybe not even one. I
can't remember the last time I sawthat the number one overall seed ended up
winning this thing. But that narrativeis going to become a real factor if
they officially make the finals. Butthey look like the best team right now,
and they lead Florida State five tonothing in the top of the seventh,
still a little bit of time left. The nightcap is supposed to be

(01:33:09):
between Florida and Texas A and Mat six. They don't They're not going
to make six, but there isa chance that, you know, we
could start that game by seven,seven thirty, depending on how late the
uh this game ends up going,if there's any you know, big innings
by either team here as we headinto the later innings. But of course
they're having to make that adjustment tothe schedule based solely on the fact that

(01:33:31):
they have the rain out yesterday,So, you know, something to keep
in mind, something that we're watchingtoday as well. Also, another thing
that we're paying close attention to thatI'm paying close attention to is the WNBA
and really sad news the La Sparksrookie Cameron Brink, who is the number
two overall pick behind Caitlyn Clark.She actually tore her acl last night,

(01:33:57):
and it's really a bummer because notonly does she have in a really solid
rookie season, she's a popular player. She's definitely she's not on the level
of Caitlyn Clark, but she's definitelygot a fan base that followed her as
she made her way. She's justa beautiful girl. She wears like these
really like fancy dresses, super feminine, just very different than the vibe that
the rest of the league kind ofhas, and she just kind of owns

(01:34:19):
that vibe at the same time,you know what. She's a great player
and is a great defensive player,is one of the top shot blockers in
the WNBA in her rookie season.But unfortunately at torn Acal, not only
is gonna end her rookie season,but it's also going to keep her out
of the Olympics. She was notpicked to be on the regular Olympic team,
but there's an Olympic sport called threeon three and she, along with

(01:34:39):
a couple of other young players,including Hayley Vanalet, whom many people might
be familiar with, has played atLouisville in LC the last couple of years,
and she's going to be at TCUthis year in college. But there
are three on three players and CameronBrink was going to be one of the
top players for the three on threewomen's team heading to the Paris Olympics,
and obviously this is going to preventhim from playing there as well. So
real bummer for her, bummer forthe WNBA, but all the best for

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her and her recovery. We'll havemore for you coming in the five o'clock
hour, as we'll reset the newscycle for you and take plenty of phone
calls. If you want to bea part of the conversation, you can
always call in at four oh twofive five eight eleven ten. Four roh
two five to five, eight toeleven ten. Emery Sunger with you on
news Radio eleven ten KFAB. Todayis an interesting day and if you want
to talk about this with me onyour drive home from work on this Wednesday,

(01:35:23):
you absolutely can the phone number fouroh two, five to five eight
eleven ten, four roh two fivefive eight to eleven ten. I talk
quite a bit about this early inthe show, and I just wanted to
bring it back up because I feellike it's an important thing for us to
at least mention and talk about alittle bit. And it's June teenth,
It's junenteenth. June teenth is afederal holiday. Now, this is the

(01:35:45):
third year of it being a federalholiday, and it might be a little
confusing as to why we celebrate this, and it's not really a celebration for
like me per se, I'm aCaucasian individual who my family was not persecuted
for any reason beyond maybe my Germangreat great great great great great great great

(01:36:08):
great great grandfather when he came acrossinto the United States in the early pre
Revolution colonies landed in the Pennsylvania area, maybe he was was persecuted for some
reason, but I mean, everybodywas still so new into those areas.
I highly doubt that. Yeah,I just I had no, I have

(01:36:30):
no There's nothing about me. AndI've said this a million times. I'm
never gonna be able to fully understandwhat it's like to be oppressed or persecuted
in any way, shape or form, not in this country at least,
and so I try to have likeone ear open to as many people that
are affected by that as possible.That's why I probably I don't have a
lot of opinions on Pride Month.I don't have a lot of opinions on

(01:36:51):
something like Black History Month, youknow, Women's History Month, you know,
the rights of people to do differdifferent things that are not like me.
I just I don't have a lotof opinions on those because I just
feel like it's not my place.At the same time, I do look
at something like Juneteenth and I wantto learn more about it. Why is
this a federal holiday? Now?You know, I'm in my thirties that

(01:37:13):
this was not a day that Iknew anything about from school. And we
can talk about this being just anotheroverreach of wokeness and all that stuff.
And I can understand somebody feeling thatway because they're not included. It has
nothing to do with them, andthat's accurate, it doesn't in a lot
of cases. But I still thinkit's important, and I'll tell you why.

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On June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, the last slaves or last enslaved
people in the Galveston area were informedthat they were free, Essentially. Major
General Gordon Granger ordered the final enforcementof the Emancipation Proclamation in the state of

(01:37:59):
Texas, and that was the datethat the final slaves finally were told and
knew that they were free. Ofcourse, the freedom wasn't completely upheld by
the federal government until the sixth ofDecember that year in eighteen sixty five,
with the ratification of the thirteenth Amendmentof the Constitution, so a year later,

(01:38:24):
essentially it was already being recognized asa celebration because the African American community
in the United States recognized that theyno longer are enslaved, and by law
that was protected in every state inthe Union. We fought a four year
war over it. I know thatthere were a lot of other factors in
the Civil War, but that wasreally the backbone of the entire Civil War.

(01:38:46):
And you can go through and lookat all of the different things that
those terrible presidents, between James K. Polk and Abraham Lincoln, that string
of guys that just couldn't figure thisthing out and got it let it get
worse and worse and worse until statesseceded from the Union because they wanted to
keep slavery as an institution because theyneeded it economically, and on top of

(01:39:08):
that, they didn't want change.Change is always very difficult. But then
of course they decided, based onpressure from newly inaugurated President Abraham Lincoln,
they are going to secede from theUnion, which they did, and then
we had a Civil war breakout ineighteen sixty one and it lasted for four
years, with Americans killing Americans.So many different storylines throughout, certainly,

(01:39:35):
but the idea of slavery as aninstitution in our country was really the backbone
of that separation from the North.In the South. That didn't mean things
were great for African Americans from thatpoint forward. Obviously a century later,
Martin Luther, King Junior and manyother important figures were still marching and giving

(01:39:57):
speeches and trying to make a differencefor people of color in this nation,
which was still segregated with Jim Crowlaws for decades and decades after June teenth.
But the idea that on the nineteenthof June in eighteen sixty five,
the last slaves in America were toldtoday were no longer enslaved by people in

(01:40:18):
the South. It's an important deal. And I'll say why. I think
it is important that it's a federalholiday. First of all, June doesn't
have a federal holiday. I thinkthe calendar is pretty imbalanced in a lot
of spaces. We talk about theholidays. Is like, you know,
from Thanksgiving on through the New Year, and there are a bunch of different
holidays that you know aren't necessarily takework off holidays. But you talk about

(01:40:41):
Thanksgiving, you talk about Christmas,you talk about New Year. That's a
you know, within like a monthand a week essentially of each other,
like a five week span, wehave three federal holidays, and then of
course you have the days around those, like the day after Thanksgiving or Christmas
Eve or New Year's Eve that alot of companies say we're not worth on
that day either, or they'll pickdifferent days to observe that. We build

(01:41:02):
that in we already know that nota big deal, right, Well,
July has the Independence Day, andyou have a Memorial Day in late May,
and then you have to wait untilyou get to Labor Day, right,
and there's all sorts of stuff thatis going on. I totally understand,

(01:41:23):
But to me, I think thedays that we are observing on the
calendar as federal holidays where you're notgonna have your mail delabored, the banks
are closed, it's an excellent reminderas to what that day is about.
We utilize that with things like youknow, Memorial Day and Veterans Day and
what those days really are for.We talk about days like you know,

(01:41:45):
Christmas in the meeting and the reasonfor the season, and Thanksgiving and what
Thanksgiving means in this country. Right. Independence Day, obviously, it speaks
for itself on the fourth of July, and people learned in colonial America that
we are going to fight for ourour independence against the British. And that
changed the complexion of the revolution.We became a country that said that all

(01:42:11):
men were created equal and everybody hasthe ability to fight for the pursuit of
happiness. Except not until June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, did anybody of
color, as far as African Americanswere concerned, at least, did they
have the ability to feel those samerights, that same freedom. Heck,
women couldn't even vote in United Stateselections until sixty years after that. Right,

(01:42:38):
the bottom line is why is thisimportant? Obviously, if you're an
African American descent of an American family, this is obviously a day that you
know, things changed, Things changedfor an entire race of people in this
country. But I think even morethan that, this is a way for
us to remember that the United Statesof America knows how to adjust, knows

(01:42:59):
how to make changes, It knowshow to make things right. There were
five consecutive horrific presidents, well fourreally bad presidents in a row leading up
to the Civil War, and theleadership underneath them, the segregation of not
just North versus South, but ofthe Whig Party, which was in power
until the eighteen fifties and then wasreplaced by kind of what the modern Republican

(01:43:20):
Party would turn into, and thenthe Democratic Party. They hated each other,
but even more so North and Southhated each other for a variety of
different reasons. And we couldn't figurethis out until we fought a war with
each other, with ourselves basically justsitting here for four full years, killing
hundreds of thousands of Americans over anentire battlefield strewn from north to south all

(01:43:45):
over. I mean, it's reallyincredible what was going on at the time,
and we finally were able to getit right after that war was over.
And we're never going to let thathappen again, is what we said,
right, And it took us stepby step. It was not easy
and it was not fun a lotof times. But one thing about America
and Juneteenth is an excellent example ofthat is that we try to get it

(01:44:09):
right. We try to amend ourselveswhen we know that we're making mistakes.
And again, it's not always goingto look pretty and it's not always going
to be easy, and there's goingto be a lot of kicking and screaming
for people on either side of theaisle politically, and a lot of changes.
But one thing America always has doneis been forward thinking and made adjustments

(01:44:29):
as the times demanded that, andthat's one of them. It's one of
the big ones. Obviously, Americahas been a huge player on so many
different world stages, but sometimes weneed to look at ourselves and understand that
we have made a lot of progressin the four hundred years since our very
very very distant ancestors landed on PlaymouthRock and in a place like Jamestown in

(01:44:53):
Virginia, and the way that thesettlers came across. It wasn't all sunshine
and daisies for those guys either,But after trying to coexists and fighting for
just their ability or the ability forthem to exist on this land, and
all of the challenges that presented itselfin many different ways for the next few

(01:45:15):
hundred years. Here we sit intwenty twenty four, still in this country,
still as being viewed around the worldas one of the foremost powers economically,
despite all of our issues, oneof the foremost powers militarily, despite
some of the weakness that our currentadministration is showing. And it's all built
on the backbone that America is willingto grow and to build on itself and

(01:45:39):
never be satisfied with what it seesin the mirror. And I think that
is a huge reason why people viewus so positively in so many ways around
the world. Do you have thoughtson this, you have thoughts on what
Juneteenth really means or what my thoughtsare that it's a great illustration of the
change that America is willing to maketo make things right when we know we're

(01:46:00):
doing things the wrong way. Youcan call us four h two five to
five eight eleven ten four L twofive to five eight eleven ten News Radio
eleven ten KFAB and Maurice Sunger onnews Radio eleven ten KFAB. The plights
of so many people who may havebeen affected by slavery in the African American
community, and the effects of thatreally did not wear off. For I
mean, there's still a lot ofpeople that would claim that we're still paying

(01:46:24):
the price for slavery one hundred andsixty years later after the Civil War.
But there were some really big moments, some real massive moments in the growth
of acceptance in our society for peopleof color. And one of them,
unequivocally that broke barriers not just insports but in every possible way in society

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was Jackie Robinson joining the Brooklyn Dodgersin nineteen forty seven, breaking the color
barrier in the right person at theright time to be able to handle it,
to deal with it. Branch Ricky, the Ford thinking guy. He
was in charge of the Brooklyn Dodgersat the time. This is so well
done in the movie forty two withHarrison Fords, branch Ricky, and Chadwick
Boseman as Jackie Robinson. If youhaven't seen that film, highly recommend it.

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But the Negro Leagues had to beformed basically as a result of African
Americans and people of color in generalbeing black balled out of Major League Baseball.
Just a couple of weeks ago,it was announced that Major League Baseball
is going to look at and observethe records of the stats that they can
verify from Negro League games throughout thenineteen teams all the way through the nineteen

(01:47:34):
forties. Unfortunately, we don't havecomplete records of a lot of those things,
but the best that we can do. I think it's important that we
recognize that some of the greatest baseballplayers who ever lived never actually got to
be on a major league field andhad nothing to do with them or their
talent, and everything to do withthe way that they looked in the color
of their skin. Well after JackieRobinson broke that color barrier, there was
an influx of African American players inthe American past time that helped really change

(01:47:59):
the way that I think think alot of people looked at not just African
American athletes, but African American culturein general. And one of those players,
with Willie Mays, the say HeyKid, played over twenty two years
at the major league level after startinghis career as a teenager in the Negro
leagues, playing in Birmingham, andwe lost him at the age of ninety
three yesterday afternoon. Tomorrow, majorLeague Baseball is going back to one of

(01:48:23):
the fields he played at as ateenager, Rick Wood Field. This rickwood
Field game is kind of taking theplace of the Field of Dreams game that
occurred a couple of years ago inDyersville, Iowa. They had a couple
of those White Sox and Yankees intwenty one and then Cubs in Reds in
twenty two, and those are reallyfun games. But there's ways to kind

(01:48:43):
of highlight this special feeling of America'spastime while also observing a lot of the
history, real history, not Fieldof Dreams history. That was a movie
that was made in the late eighties, right, this is real history.
Rick Wood Field has been standing sinceI think the early nineteen hundreds, I
think nineteen ten or so. Itis one of the oldest still standing ballparks

(01:49:04):
in America, and the Birmingham BlackBearons played there. That was the team
that Willy Mays played on, andso did so many other great legends of
the game that didn't actually get thechance to play Major League baseball because they
were black. Willie Mays kind ofalong with Jackie Robinson, I think,
and more so than maybe any otherplayer in the history of baseball, changed

(01:49:26):
the way people thought of the game. The acrobatic catches, the hitting for
average and power, the ridiculously strongthrowing arms, speed and flair on the
bass pass, a style of baseballthat had not been seen in Major League
baseball before. And the fact thattelevision was new, The fact that you
could actually see Willie Mays on videoin very limited times, maybe just a

(01:49:48):
couple of times a year if youwere lucky and you religiously watch baseball when
it was on every week. Butunless you were seeing him in person,
you didn't get a chance to actuallyvisually understand and what a lot of these
great athletes were doing. And hecame at the perfect time. Willie Mays.
We still call that over the shouldercatch, the Willy Mays catch.
We always talk about, Hey,they pulled to Willy Mays by making an

(01:50:11):
incredible over the shoulder catch throughout thehistory of the game, and even still
to this day, even kids whoprobably have never seen footage of Willie Mays
that incredible catch, him bopping homeruns or any of this other great stuff
that he was able to accomplish duringhis career. They still know who Willy
Mays was because of the legend thathe was. And on top of that,
a great American who served in ourmilitary in Korea missed his entire age

(01:50:36):
twenty two season, something that wedon't talk too much about. He lost
an entire year of production at thebeginning of his career because he was serving
in Korea. So when you thinkabout American heroes, you think about people
that really made a lasting legacy.Willie Mays is definitely going to be on
that list for most people, especiallysports fans, and he's going to definitely

(01:50:56):
be missing. It's just a shamethat he wasn't going to be around for
tomorrow moment of a Major League gamehappening at rick Wood Field, and the
fact that he was going to behonored as really the last amazing legendary relic
from a time that we just wetake for granted now with these generations that
are used to, you know,this kind of diversity in the game and

(01:51:18):
in sports and in society in general. But it wasn't like that when these
guys helped break the colorbary in thelate forties and into the early fifties.
And it's going to be a powerfulmoment tomorrow when they recognize Willie Mays in
the life that he lives. Livedto the point where he was considered one
of the great ambassadors not just ofbaseball, but of American society as a

(01:51:40):
whole. He is going to bemissed. Rest in peace. William Mays
passed away yesterday at the age ofninety three. If you got thoughts on
William Mays or anything else we've talkedabout, you can call in at four
h two five five eight eleven ten. Four h two five five, eight
to eleven ten. As we'll moveinto the last half hour of the show
on news Radio eleven ten, kfabEmery's game at the Men's College World Series.
He's happening here in Omaha. Sevento two. Now, Tennessee has

(01:52:02):
tacked on an insurance run as wehead to the bottom of the ninth inning.
Florida State down to their last threeouts. They'll need five to tie
and to send us into extra innings. But we'll let you know assuming that
that gets wrapped up. Got theflame throwing right hander out there for Tennessee.
I saw him pitch in person onSunday and he lets air rip.

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You can get into the high ninetiesand definitely a big weapon for the top
ranked team in the country, thatis the Tennessee Volunteers. They win this
game, they're into the weekend.They're gonna have a chance to win a
national title. Florida State loses here, they're eliminated. If Florida State is
somehow able to come back and scoreat least five runs here in forest extra
innings and win this game, thatwill force another game between the two teams.

(01:52:45):
So it's fun. It's always funto see tournament win or go home
situation. And then we got anothergame tonight. Texas A and M scheduled
to take on Florida that game,assuming the rain holds off, which it
has for the most part. Thesun has popped out at various points.
It's been cloudy, remains still twentyto forty percent chance of rein depending on

(01:53:06):
where you're looking at right now.But I think we're gonna have no problem
getting the game in. But itwas supposed to start at six o'clock,
and obviously it's not gonna make sixo'clock here as they're still playing the game
before. But if they start sevento seven thirty eight o'clock, it's not
gonna be any problem getting that thingdone around midnight at the latest, assuming
they're not having any crazy, longextrating situation. With another sports story you

(01:53:28):
heard in the news there before wecame back, the Detroit Pistons of the
NBA fired their head coach. Hisname's Monty Williams. He's been Coach of
the Year a couple of different times, and most recently was Coach of the
Year when he led the Phoenix Sunsto their first NBA Finals since nineteen ninety
three. That was back in twentytwenty one, and it was a pretty
wild situation. The Sons were awful. They hired Monty Williams, he turned

(01:53:51):
him around with the help of ChrisPaul great you know player, and I
tell you what, Monty had realhigh stock. But after that finals,
the Suns kept adding to their team, but kept faltering and never made it
back to the NBA Finals in thenext couple of years. And basically what

(01:54:12):
ended up happening over and over againwas everybody was wondering, what the heck's
going on? What the heck,you know, Monty Williams, Maybe this
isn't such a great fit for youanymore? And the answer to that question
is maybe not. He left thathe parted ways with the Phoenix Suns,
and after that the Suns moved onfrom him hired Frank Vogel. He's already
been fired one year and done inPhoenix. There they didn't achieve anything that

(01:54:33):
they wanted to. They were donein the first round. And Monty Williams
signed a huge contract, the recordbreaking contract six years, seventy eight million
dollars to coach the Detroit Pistons,who are in the middle of a rebuilt
they're not a good team. Well, what happened this year was the Pistons

(01:54:54):
lost more games in a row thanany team in NBA history U nearly,
and they fired Monty Williams after oneterrible season. Think about this. One
year, that was all it took. And so he is owed sixty five

(01:55:15):
million dollars. This guy was firedafter one year. He has sixty five
million dollars left on his deal andhe is going to make that much money
just to not coach the Detroit Pistonsanymore. Now, I don't know if
when you're making sixty five million dollarsupfront basically on your deal and know that

(01:55:39):
money's coming in even if you're notdoing anything. I have no idea why
you would try to do anything else, but you know, maybe Monty wants
to go coach the Lakers or somethingelse. I don't know what he's up
to. But holy cow, whata crazy story to be fired and still
make sixty five million dollars. It'sjust truly, It's truly a dream scenario,

(01:56:00):
isn't it? Pretty wild stuff?There. Another thing that is just
kind of crazy to think about thatI've been paying close attention to throughout the
last couple of days is that theSurgeon General is America, the United States
Surgeon General is calling for a warningon social media platforms basically to show that

(01:56:26):
the like as a warning to peoplegetting on social media about the ill effects
of social media. Again, thiswas a call to label on social media
sites that they're being associated with significantmental health harms for adolescents. Now,

(01:56:47):
I wonder how frequently people just bypassthese Surgeon General warnings. You talk about,
like tobacco products, right by rule, they have to put that stuff
so people who buy tobacco products seethat. How many people in the history
of the world since then, sincethe sixties when these rules started to pop

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up, have bought a tobacco productor you know, an alcoholic beverage or
anything else like that that is beingregulated by a surgeon general like this,
looked at the label and then decided, you know what, never mind,
never mind. Sorry I even asked, I just I wonder about that.
Now. Being on social media,I'll be honest with you, I get
warnings about stuff. Sometimes I getpop up ads. Obviously, we have

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ad blockers now that you can puton your browser, and that kind of
helps out, but not that youshould be doing that all the time.
A lot of sites that don't evenoperate if you're running an ad blocker because
they want you to support or theywant the ads to show up so they'll
continue to get the support on theirsites because that's how they make money.
But the idea that you couldn't justscroll right past something like that, some

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people are arguing that this is likeyou know what the music where it says
on when you bought a CD orsomething like that. Back when you had
to do that to listen to music, there'd be a square that says explicit
adult content warning or whatever like thatwas like a big compromise deal between artists

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and music labels in Congress because theydidn't want their kids to be actively listening
to bad lyrics, so they wantedto make sure parents who were buying these
CDs knew what they were getting into, because then there would be an explicit
warning on the front cover that wouldsay, straight up, Hey, your
kids listening to some dirty stuff.Be on the lookout. I wond how
any parents actually looked at that andsaid, yeah, no, I won't

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buy this for Johnny anymore. Itprobably had some effect, but after Johnny
got to like fifteen, sixteen yearsold, he could buy his own CDs.
You think he cared about that.Nah? So I wonder this is
obviously something that is the Surgeon Generalin his name, by the way,
the Vake Mirthy. The Vake Mirthyis trying to help people understand the mental

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health effects of social media, andhe's got me talking about it, So
I guess that's a win for him. Even though I don't think that throwing
a warning label on there is goingto make that much of a difference.
But at the end of the day, I do think it's important for us
to realize that there is an issuewith social media and mental health issues.
I do think people under the ageI would say even college age students are

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drastically affected by what they see onsocial media and how they interact with things
on social media. And there's nodoubt that a lot of these political stunts,
not that they're new to society,but a lot of these political stunts
like spray painting stone hinge for instance, or defacing statues in Washington, d
C. If you're protesting, alot of that stuff has become popularized because

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they know they'll get the attention they'redeserving or they think that they're deserving by
throwing that on their social media accounts. And then that just to me is
one of the real downfalls of socialmedia, even though there's plenty of good
stuff, Like they through the pictureof the Ecuadorian guy that through grabbed a
couple of thirteen year olds by knifepoint, tied him up in the bushes,
and then raped the thirteen year oldgirl. They put his video or

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photo of a video that they goton surveillance to try to identify him,
and then they went ahead and wereable to accomplish finding him in a couple
of days because they got the wordout on social media. It's not all
bad. At the same time,it absolutely can be a detriment to young
minds if we show it to himand don't fully regulate that as a society.

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Whether or not the Surgeon General's warningis going to make any darn bit
of difference on that, I havemy doubts, but alas at least it
might be a move in a directionof just being aware that that's something that
is serious. One last call beforewe wrap up the show. Jim's on
our phone line. Jim, whatdo you want to talk about today?
Yeah, Imrie, you guys weretalking about legal and illegal immigration. You

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had a gentleman that called who saidthat in the fourteenth Amendment. Fourteenth Amendment
States said if you were born inthe United States, that you're actually citizen
in the United States, no matterwhat. And I suggest to that gentleman
and all my fellow Americans, andI think there is a Supreme Court case
that I want to look into whythey decided to make it the way they

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did, and that is, ifyou're if you're not allegal immigrant, if
you're illegal. I think the firstsentence of Amendment fourteen, Section one,
of course, but the first sentencesays it very clearly all persons born or
naturalized, you got to be bornor naturalized in the United States and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof. You've gotto be subject to the jurisdiction of the

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United States. If you come fromanother country, you're not subject You're not
subject to that to the United States. You're subject to the country you're coming
from. The last part of itare students of the United States and the
state wherein they reside. That's adefinition of citizenship in the United States.
Before the ratification of the fourteenth Amendmentin eighteen sixty eight, we didn't have

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a definition of a citizen of theUnited States. That's our first definition in
this country, our history. Soif you understand that, you can understand
that people that cross the border illegallyand give birth to an infant, that
infant isn't not a cisen of theUnited States. It's very good and important
clarification, Jim. And this iswhy we love it when you listen and
you call in. We really appreciatethe info. Today, Hey, can

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I are you done for today?Can say one more thing? Yep?
You got thirty seconds. Okay,I'm going to say this. For the
idea of the immigration laws that needto be enforced, we need to understand
what the three branches are responsible for. Legislative makes the laws, Executive execuse
the laws, or faithfully execuse thelaws. It says it under section two

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is the president's president's responsibility that hewill faithfully take care of the laws faithfully
for sure. Hey, Jim,I gotta go though, I gotta go,
man, I ran out of tide. But I appreciate the call,
man, Thank you so much.Really appreciate good information. Today Tennessee just
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