Extra Innings Podcast Ep. 19 (8-11-21)

Longtime Dodgers pitching coach joins David in this episode.

Episode Transcript

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This is the Extra Innings Podcast.We're going to Extra Inning like and subscribe
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All right, welcome to episode nineteenof the Extra Innings Podcast presented by Corona
Extra Find the Fine Live. Pleasedrink responsibly. All right, we are
going to take a break from AndreEthier on this week's podcast because we just

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did an Instagram live today that youcan check out on the M five seventy
LA sports accounts. So that willbe our weekly conversation on the Instagram Live
and you'll find it on their InstagramTV and I'm sure they'll post it on
their TikTok and all that stuff.So in place of Andre Ethier, I

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thought we would revisit with an oldfriend and a man that has had such
a huge impact on the Dodger organizationthe last thirty years, and that is
former pitching coach Rick Honeycutt, whostill works for the organization and is still
relied upon as far as looking atvideos and visiting minor league pitchers. So

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I'm excited to talk to Honey aboutRyan Peppio in particular and Bobby Miller,
and also to get his thoughts onWalker Bueller's young caliber season and where he
thinks Clayton Kershaw is the rest ofthe year. So a lot to talk
about with Rick Honeycutt Bay leadoff mostof the Extra Any podcast. David Vasse.

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All right, there are less thanfifty games to go in the regular
season and the Dodgers are still strugglingto gain ground on the San Francisco Giants,
and I really believe the Dodgers haveto flip that switch right now.
There can't be any more of thinkingit's going to happen. We have enough

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talent to make it happen. TheDodgers do have a lot of talent,
but they've got to put it alltogether. It's one thing to have the
talent, it's another thing to putit all together. And it's been difficult
to put it all together because ofthe injuries. It's been an uphill climb
for a team that is twenty gamesabove five hundred. Mookie and Seeger have

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not been in the lineup together virtuallyall season long. Muki has been hurt
all season long with that bad righthip. And you know, like I
mentioned on Dodger Talk and Sportsnetdale duringthe Angels series, I talked to Muki
about his right hip and he letme in on a lot of what's going
on with his right hip, andwithout getting into details about it, most

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players would shut down their seasons ifthey were dealing with what Mooki is dealing
with in his right hip. Sohopefully he could play through it. I'm
not sure he'll be able to dothat every day. There are going to
be days that he has to takeoff, and fingers crossed, it doesn't
force him to shut down his seasonbecause, like I said, most players

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would already have shut down their seasonwith whatever Muki is dealing with. And
I know what he's dealing with,but it's not my place to announce that
to the world. Just know thatthere is no excuse making with him.
He is dealing with a lot ofpain and he's finding a way to play
through it. And I just havethe utmost respect for Muki in a lot

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of different ways. As a person. He's an upstanding guy. He cares
about his family and his friends,He cares about his teammates. I feel
like he is one of those guysthat's a little bit of a pleaser because
he's such a great guy, andI feel like in this situation, he's
trying to please He's trying to pleasethe organization, trying to please his teammates,
and trying to please the fans tocontinue to play through this bad right

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hip injury. So there, wheneveryou see Mookie maybe not moving or taking
the extra base as you might expecthim to, just remember that he is
dealing with a lot of pain inthat right hip. So we'll see where
it goes from here. Justin Turneris now dealing with a left groin issue,

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and we'll see how the Dodgers areable to fill in at third base
while Turner is on the shelf.Is it going to be Chris Taylor more
or is it going to be Maxmunseymore So, it's been really difficult for
the Dodgers to stay healthy. Tomention, Clayton Kershaw on the injured list,
now not eligible to come back untilSeptember fifth with whatever is going on

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with his left arm, and Icontinue to be told it's not structurally damaged,
And in some ways that's good andin some ways that's bad. If
there was structural damage by now,they would know what they're dealing with and
they could fix it if it neededto be fixed, in a surgical way
or rehab way. But when thereis no definitive answers from the scans,

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obviously, like he told me,there's a big sigh of relief. But
on the other hand, you're wondering, why am I still having pain?
Why am I still having soreness?So I know a lot of people believe
that Kershaw is going to come back, and he's another one of those guys
that will do everything in his powerto come back, But there is no

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foregone conclusion that his arm is goingto bounce back and say all right,
go forward in September. That's nothow the body works. The arm is
not going to respond because the teamneeds him. So right now you're looking
at a rotation that's four deep Bueller, Scherzer, Urieus and at this point

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in time it's David Price, andI'm okay with those four, but you're
going down the stretch drive and youmight need a fifth. I'm not sure
if the Dodgers are able to maneuvera bullpen game every fifth day or if
there's a day off, which aswe get closer to the end of the
season, you're not going to have. And as we look at the schedule

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with the Dodgers being on the EastCoast in Philadelphia, the Giants are at
home hosting the Diamondbacks in Rockies.So you gotta hope the Dodgers take care
of business the rest of the wayon the East Coast, and you gotta
hope for some help from the worstroad team in baseball in the Rockies,
and frankly just playing out one ofthe worst teams in baseball in the Arizona

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Diamondbacks. I mean, look atwould happen on Sunday in Arizona. The
Giants were down four to nothing andthey came back to beat Arizona in the
ninth inning. So the Giants arenot going anywhere. I think that's pretty
clear right now. But for theDodgers, they have to take care of
themselves. And I have said thison Dodger Talk. There is a great

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chance for the Dodgers to still winthis division. But as Andre Ethier said
last week on this podcast, JoeTorrey always used to talk about gaining a
game every week, and right nowthe Dodgers are teetering on four or five
games back, and they got tostart gaining ground one game a week with

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a month plus left to go,not to mention only three more games to
play against the Giants. But evenif the Dodgers don't find a way to
win their ninth consecutive and l West, they will be in the wildcard game.
And I'm not sure if you lookedat the standings again, it's not

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a foregone conclusion. The Padres willbe the second wildcard team because the Cincinnati
Reds have been playing great baseball sincethe All Star Break and they have closed
in on San Diego for that secondwildcard spot. The Reds are only three
games back of that second wildcard spot, and the Padres have a lot of
Giants on their schedule between now andthe end of the season. And how

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about this end to the schedule.Dodgers play the Padres and Brewers at Dodgers
Stadium in the final six games ofthe season. It is going to be
an epic last week of the yearfor your Los Angeles Dodgers, and hopefully
they can find a way but I, like I was saying, even if

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the Dodgers don't win the division,there is still a path to the NLCS,
a special if the Dodgers play theSan Diego Padres. And I know
the Padres have had the Dodgers number, but if Fernando Tattis Junior is hurt
or playing at fifty percent in theoutfield, that is a huge blow to

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the Padres and a big reason whythey're starting to slip backwards. So I
firmly believe that even if the Dodgersdon't win the division, they will find
a way to win that wildcard gameand then play the Giants in a five
game n LDS best of five.And talking to Dodger players, they respect
the Giants. They know they're goodand they find ways to win. But

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they believe that they do match upwell against their pitching staff and that they
could score runs against them. Theyjust have to play mistake free baseball,
and that's something that the Dodgers havestruggled to do all season long. They
lead Major League Baseball with the mostallowed unearned runs fifty nine at the time
of episode nineteen being take in thesecond week of August. So if the

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Dodgers could play mistake free baseball.They feel pretty good about their chances against
that pitching staff in San Francisco.The Padres, on the other hand,
have beaten the Dodgers seven of tentimes, and you, Darvish has carved
up the Dodgers. So that's probablywho the Dodgers would see in a wildcard
game, and that game would beplayed at Dodgers Stadium if it is the

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Padres. And we all know youDarvish does not react well to hostile environments
and big games. I love you, Darvish, but last year there were
no fans in the stands, andI feel like that benefited a guy like
him. Not so sure. Witha sellout crowd at Dodgers Stadium being as
hostile as they showed against the Astros, they definitely would rattle you, Darvish.

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So that's my prediction. The Dodgerswould beat the Padres and then beat
the Giants in the NLDS and facethe Milwaukee Brewers in the NLCS. And
the Brewers are really good, withthree top tier starters Woodruff, Burns,
and Peralta, not to mention DevinWilliams and Josh Hayter among their best bullpen,

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so it would be a coin flipin the NLCS. So even if
the Dodgers don't find a way towin this division, which is looking more
like a real possibility with the waythe Giants are playing, they still will
find their way to the NLCS.Well, this was a great excuse to

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call one of my favorite people thatI've met through the years in baseball,
and he is one of the mostknowledgeable people you will ever meet when it
comes to pitching and baseball. Andthe Dodgers were fortunate and are still fortunate
to have him in their organization forover twenty years teaching the young group of
pitchers and also the are in pitchersthe finer points of the biomechanics and how

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to become a better pitcher and reallyguide them through their pitching careers because he
cares so much about them on andoff the field. And he pitched twenty
one years in the major leagues andhis coaching career is exceeding his playing career
in more ways than one. Andthat is the one and only Rick honeycut

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Honey, thanks a lot for thetime. Always appreciate it. Well,
thank you, Dave. It's goodto hear your voice. So watching you
on the tube was like, isa smiling face, Dave? You always
have a smiling face, which isfun to watch and good to see.
Thanks, honey, I was always, uh, I always tiptoed around you

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after maybe a tough loss. Youknow, I always said, you know,
hey, maybe I won't bother himtoday. But you know, I
always appreciated the time that you gaveeven after tough losses, just as much
as exhilarating wins. Well, youfeel the losses for sure, especially the

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tough losses are are tough. Andbut uh, you know, I I'm
thankful that that the Dodgers and organizationhas allowed me to still be a still
be a part. You know,we're all were apart last year from the
from the COVID and it's still kindof around, but at least the protocols
for the lower levels, I've beenable to get out and it's fun to

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put the uniform back on and youknow, be around them and see these
we still have a lot of goodarms in our organization. It's it's awful,
awfully fun for me to get backon the field and just be around
them and talk with them and andso it's it's still it's exciting for me

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just to be back around it,for sure. Rick. In some ways,
this is full circle for you becausebefore you came onto the major league
club under Grady Little as the pitchingcoach, you started out this way.
When you came back to the organizationin two thousand and one, helping out
the younger pitchers in the farm system, Yeah, I mean that's exactly where

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where I started. And you know, Tommy and Dave Wallace were instrumental and
asked, you know, give mean opportunity to get back into the game.
And it was extremely extremely fun forme to be able to to do
that at that level, and weimpacted you know a lot of guys.

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Our organization at that time was nota good farm system and it was kind
of gotten away from Dodger thoughts andphilosophies and things really about you know pitching,
uh kind of delivery mechanics and andit was fun to get back into
it. And during that time,you know, through with with Dave and

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and uh Tommy, we were ableto bring you know, former former pitchers
back into our organization. That KennyHow's and Bobby Welch's, Roger McDowell's people
that had been you know, inthe system, and you know we were
you know, in some good draftsand we were able to buy two thousand

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and four to be one of thetop, you know, to get the
minor league system back being one inthe top two or three in baseball,
and really kind of when things startedto turn around, I think for the
Dodgers was back in about too.You know, the times were the you
know where he had not only pitcherslike like Billingsley and Broxton and quote making

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it to the big leagues was youknow, the loanies and Kemps and Martin
and even Laroache made it up fora while. I mean, it was
just that was just an excellent timein the system to kind of get things
back moving in the right direction.Rick, every time I saw you walk

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through the halls, or when youever you went out there for a pitching
mound visit, or even in springtraining, I thought back to some of
the great former Dodger pitchers that turninto instructors when you were pitching for the
team. Guys like Johnny Padres youmentioned, Dave Wallace was a great pitching
instructor. Sandy Kofax do you feellike you have those guys with you now

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and then as paying it forward forwhat they taught you, and now you're
passing that knowledge on. Well,I said all the time when I got
you know, back in especially gotto the big hood levels. I mean,
I'm just passing on information that Ihad learned really from that large group,

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from going back to Red Adams andSandy and Dave and Arnovski and you
know, all the great pictures thatwhen I came over to the system,
I mean, it was the theknowledge that they had, not only but
the way that they put it.I you know, before I came to
the Dodgers, I pits six yearsin the major leagues and been with three

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different organizations, one that was draftedand then trade to Seattle and then trade
to Texas and who had How canyou be in the big leagues for six
years and three different organizations and herehere things, you know, giving you
the directions to the understanding of howthings work better if you do it,

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you know, use these small things. And they're not major, but other
organizations were was not teaching that andnot even bringing those things up. All
they wanted to talk about, youknow, is hand position and arm position
and this and that, and youknow, they broke it down to how
the ground is your is the onlything that you're touching, and that's what

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it's going to be. How youuse the ground so that your arm work
and body works better. I mean, it's simple physics really, and you
know, all the things that I'vetried to do during my time was continue
those thoughts on and and bring itout. And then of course the video

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and all the other metrics came alongthat you try to use those to also
support whatever, you know, thoughtsthat you may have to help someone get
better, because if they do thosethose things and then they understand it,
they're going to get better and it'sgoing to help it's going to help them
and can help them not only dramatically, and even just just grip pressure to

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finger pressure. Those were things thatyou know, really I'd not not heard
in the previous time. You knowthat I pitched. You know, it's
just like here, you know,take the ball, go out and do
what you do and hope that you'reyou know, good enough to do it,
you know type deal. And buthere there was such i mean really
a learning process that happened. Andthen you can continue to do it,

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and you just see so much andit opened your eyes at different things that
when you're watching other guys, yougo, oh, that's why, how
he can do that or this guycan do that. And it just was
you know, I was so blessedto you know, have that opportunity to
to be traded to the Dodgers andbe around so many unbelievable you know,

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uh minds, and and you knowwe because we talked about it all and
I you know, still get achance to talk of, you know,
about when we were together, andI mean you're talking about going back,
you know, you know, fiftyyears or so of though that how the
Dodgers at least, you know,talked about things and and what was what

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was emphasized. I should say,it's not that everybody's not trying to make
everybody, you know, the same, it's just understanding that certain things need
to get into certain places so thatit can happen. You know, I
like, I love to play golf. Well, golf's kind of the same
thing. I mean, how canJustin Thomas, it's one hundred and fifty
pounds hit the ball as far assomebody that's Dustin Johnson, that's you know,

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sixty three or six four. It'snot strength. It's about using your
using your body properly and lining thingsup correctly. Did you did you see
it as a playeric or were youmaybe your best pitching coach because you see
it now and you have just thisremarkable ability to see things that other people

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don't see. How did you gainthat? Was that something you got over
the years or was it something thatclicked one day? Well? I think
up until coming here, even thoughI'd pitched my whole life, and you
know, it was okay, youknow, okay obviously, but it didn't
understand how things actually worked. Youknow, you know what caused? Then

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what were you? What were youlooking for? And then you just started
watching the best of the best andthey're going and you watch nothing, but
you know a lot of times youdon't have to look at anything. Then
then if he's a right hand orwatching how his right foot and leg work
on the mount and you just watchhow how that leverage of the body is

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put into position, and the time, you know how time's up so well,
and it starts, you know,it really starts. There's only one
thing as a pitcher, you've onlygot one thing touching the ground. And
if that's the can troll, that'sthe steering wheel, that's the power of
a position, that's the gas pedal. Everything has to come from there.
And I and I know today's gamehas changed. These guys are so much

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stronger, and you know they're seeingall these vlossy numbers. Ever gets caught
up in vlossy, Well, surewe want we want that also, but
it comes with command and men ableto throw other the other pitches that you
know sets that up. That's what'sso fun to watch a guy like shres
or you know, and the bestjust do what they do and you just

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watch Shaw they go go about it, you know, and it's not just
them, but the best. Youwant to see the best because that's what
you want to be is one ofthe best, or get the most out
of what you have. You know, everybody's not doesn't have the same level
of talent that they can do certainthings well, and you try to get
them to where they're more consistent,because that's really the other side of it,

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you know, is the consistency parts. You've got to be consistent to
get to to get to the toplevel and and that's what you know,
you want to get them to accomplishis being able to repeat their delivery over
and over so they can have ahigher higher chance of success. Well,

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then you bring me to Walker Bueller, who seems to have matured this year
more than in years past, tobe more of a picture than a guy
that just tries to strike out everybodywith ninety seven to ninety nine. What
have you noticed about Walker Bueller's seasonthis year compared to the previous seasons.

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Yeah, it was funny in theconversations with Kersha, we were talking,
you know, talking with him theday I was telling him that I've texted
Walker bout telling Kursh you know howproud I was of of what you know,
Walker's calming down and watching and seeinghow to get through because they and

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Curse did the same thing. AndCurse was a bullet, you know,
and China Hutch you know, therefor a while they always want to go
harder, but you know, thegame just they figured out. The best
ones figured it out basically. Andthat's what I think Walker being around the
best in seeing the guys how theygo about it, and he knows for

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him to be a winning pitcher fiveinnings is not going to be and Cursed
did the same thing. If Ican get to the seventh and eighth inning,
because they're not allowed to unless youkeep your pitch count low. It's
tough to go nine innings anymore andkeep that pitch count below the number that
they allow you to throw, evenBut that's what they learned. They figured

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out, I've got to learn howto be more efficient with my pitch count
so that I can go deeper inthe game. And the more deeper in
the game that I go allows thebullpen to be used more properly, and
I got a better chance to winit. You know, win in that
game. And you know you're seeingyou're seeing you know, Walker obviously unbelievable

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talent, but you're seeing him notusing all his pitches more properly. I
thought the other day was a perfectexample. I mean, he really struggled
with his control in his last gamethere against the Angels, but you saw
him battle through it and still andthat's what the good ones do. They
battle through and at the end ofthe day you look up and he's gone

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six in and he give it upfive hits in one run, and yeah,
he had four walks, but healso had eight punch outs and figured
it out. He got better allof a sudden. Those last couple of
innings were he knew he had thatgoal of where he wanted to get to
and I'm going to have to doit within this number of pitches to be
able to make that happen. Andthey figure it out. And that's what
you're seeing with him is actually beingable to make those adjustments in game,

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adjustments and take them deeper in thegame and pitch instead of just trying to
you know, you know, fired, and he's getting to the point.
I mean, that was some ofthe best breaking balls that I've seen him
throwing a long time, especially asSlaughter had depth instead of the sweep.
And I texted him after one gameearly in the year and he where he

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had a couple of guys punched outon changeups. I'm going, oh my
gosh, you're adding you're getting thechangeup over. I said, you're a
monster already, but now you're gonnabe even more dangerous. So he's got
so many weapons and he's so talented. I mean, that's that's what you
just love and you just want himto harness all of it, and you've
seen you've really seen it this year, just like you said, putting it

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all together. Rick. I've askedhim before whether or not he's embraced being
this type of guy, and hesaid, I'm not sure I'm embracing it,
but it's what's best. Well,again, he's smart, you know,
he'sn't intelligent enough to understand these arethe parameters and you've got to make
those adjustments and accept it. Andhe's accepting. For him to be the

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best to help the team, helphimself and help us win is to do
those things. You know. Yeah, he could sit out there and and
maybe you know, try to throwninety seven and ninety eight every throw and
have everything max, But he doesn'tneed to. His stuff's good enough.
He adding and subtracting more, andhe's gonna be he's gonna be better,

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and it's gonna be better for himand the team because he's he's now more
unpredictable of what he's going to bedoing what he does. And and like
I said the other day, whenhe started clicking and getting the field for
for his both his breaking balls,it makes things a lot easier because they
can't go up there looking at them, you know, all the things that

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he can do, and I thinkthat just gets it, gets got his
way. Early I thought he wastrying to do too many things, and
we to we tried to simplify.But now he's he's really and that there
were he can make those adjustments inthe game and uh and take yourself,
you know, deeper in the game. And that's that's what we that's what

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you'd love to see about him.Rick Honeycutt, since you have been around
the minor leagues, there's a lotof buzz about a lot of young Dodger
pitchers, but none more than youngRyan Peppio, who was a college pitcher
out of Butler. A lot ofbuzz about Ryan Peppio. I know you
saw him in Tulsa. What areyour impressions about that young man. Yeah,

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after the first time I saw himthrow, I was just like I
was, you know, very bugeyed watching him throw, because I mean
the fastball, the fastballs electric ischange up is a you know, plus
plus pitch and he throws he doesn'tthrow a curveball, but he throws his

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slider and that's you know, inmy opinion, that's the only pitch that
he's got to continue to get getbetter at. And of course I mean
always fastball command every night, youknow. But he's a bulldog on the
mound. I mean he's an attackerand in the mode that you want to
see that he's not afraid to throwthe ball over the plate and let him

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see what they can do with it. I mean he was in a stretch
the first time I saw him,or he was in a stretch. I
think he went seventeen innings and Ithink he had only allowed like two or
three hits. He had a soI mean he was just in that groove.
And then the last time that Isaw him, he was still good.
He gave up I think two runsin the first inning, but then

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that was it. And that's theother thing that you you know, he
like to see in a young manthat doesn't get discouraged. I think he
gave up a home run in thefirst innings after somebody had gotten on and
but he, you know, wasable. And of course a countered down,
which they I think are our organizationis doing doing the right thing,
keeping those guys down because they didn'tdidn't get the pitch all of last year

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and a competitive I mean he wasable to get to go to the alternate
side and get some innings, butnot so. It's that part is going
forward. And he saw him inhis first game in Tripoli was still extremely
extremely good, extremely positive. Otherthan I pitching in and Albuquerque, you

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can happen name by, you know, a couple of pop ups can end
up being home runs there. Butthis young man is I see having a
super bright future and a bright futurewith us at the big league level.
All right, honey, before Ilet you go, I'll give you an
opportunity to respond to Oral Hirscheizer,since you were watching the broadcast the other

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day and he said that golf isat the top of your list of priorities.
Is he taking some liberties on thebroadcast their honey, Well, he
always likes to give a jab atme. Yeah, I love I do
love golf, but I don't lovegolf as much as I love my wife
and my family and those. Thissummer, you know, the weekends were

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taken by going watching all the grandkids. We were running all over the seeing
got four grandkids, and three ofthem are boys, and they were all
playing. And even my granddaughter,she played softball. She was playing different
sports too. So my wife andI are our weekends and even certain nights

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were very busy watching watching the grandkidsall summer, which was nothing more than
I loved to do. And yeah, I get my golf in it when
I can, but don't I don'tput golf number one on my list,
even though at times my wife maythink that because she says, I'm never

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late for a golf game, butI'm late whenever for a dinner date or
when we're supposed to go somewhere.She's like, get me to get your
priorties. Hey, tea times areimportant, dinner will always be there.
Well the guy, Yeah, theguys aren't gonna when it's eight thirty tea
time. The guys aren't going towait on you if you're ten minutes late.

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As for sure. Oh honey,it's great to hear your voice,
great to hear that laugh. Dodgerfans miss you and we miss seeing you
every day. So hopefully you'll makeyour way to southern California soon so we
could see Rick Honeycutt. Well,I'd love to get back out there,
but I know the things we don'twant to jeopardize. I've gotten back to

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night. I've done everything that Ihave to do so I could go out
and get to at least be aroundthe game again. And I'm enjoying that.
And I would love to see theguys. But at the same time,
we don't. We don't want tojeopardize. We've got a good thing
going. Guys to get healthy,get out there and do what they do.
And when keep winning some ballgames,force sounds good. And I know

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the watchful lie of Rick Honeycutt isalways there. Thanks a lot for the
time, Honey. And I'll giveoral a little jab for you when I
see him next time, jabbing jabbingwith the right hand of the shoulder for
me. We'll do, We'll do. Thanks a lot. Okay, thanks

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David Day's pleasure. Thank you.There he goes, Rick Honeycutt. One
of the best, and so muchknowledge we barely scratched the surface, if
you can believe that, of everythinghe knows about pitching and how much he
has learned from pitching. And Ifeel like all of this is part of
the Sandy Kofax coaching tree, becauseSandy not only was a great pitcher,

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one of the greatest of all time, but understood what he was doing.
And when he retired, he cameback as a Dodger instructor and act.
He was a roving instructor for theDodgers in the seventies and eighties, and
Rick Honeycutt learned under him. JohnnyPadres, Dave Wallace, Rom Paranovski,
all those guys. It goes onand on and on. They all are

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part of the Sandy Kofax coaching tree. And we'll get Honey on again and
talk about that part of it,because Sandy Kofax is one of those rare
people that can do it great andteach it great. A lot of times
the great players don't know how tocommunicate it and teach it and pass it

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on, but Sandy Kofax had thatability. So thank you to Rick Honeycutt
for coming on episode nineteen of TheExtra Innings Podcast presented by Corona, and
thank you for listening. We'll beback with you next week. Don't forget.
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