Friday, April 25, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yets Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera
in with me. The day is Dave Silver and my
boy Henry. How are you gonna doing? Doing good? Good
to be here on a Friday going into the weekend,
last day of the week, should it? It's been a

(00:33):
good week, Dave, we were part of that on Tuesday,
came in, Yeah, talked to uh I think the garment
people right Tuesdayesday, the marathon. Yeah, we've had a lot
of good guess this week. Yesterday's show was pretty pretty
good Kendrea and John Fina. Today, I think we're gonna
have another good show. We love to talk about too.
I'm sure Henry will have a lot of breaking news

(00:53):
and last night's last night's draft games coming up? Are
you obey otherwise right? NBA?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Definitely, there's a lot of a lot of stuff going
on this time of year, for sure, but the drafts
still going on with the next couple of rounds today
got through the first one with of course the big
news from the U of a side with TAC going
to Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah. That was I was sitting at some place and
had him turn the TV onto it. As they turned
it on, it was he was going. He was going
at eight because it was varying reports, right, you could
go high or you could go in the twenties. Yeah,
and obviously he won eight. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I mean I think that was about as good as
we could expect it based on the numbers and people
we've been heard about and some of the other projections
had him, like you said, in the twenties. And you know,
the reaction has been kind of mixed. People are you know,
there's some people said, yeah, he was the best receiver
available and Carolina made a good choice, and others are like,
well maybe maybe not, but.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well some people were questioning his attitude or his commitment
or whatever they were questioning. McShee was talking about who
he had talked to a source sort of give him
some bad words. Then later in the night last night
I saw Jed talking about him and saying he was fantastic.
You know, who do you believe in?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yes, I think a lot of that is part of
playing the game of you know, trying to uh, you know,
make him look bad before the draft for other teams,
and you know, spreading the word and hey, well we'll
say that, well some things publicly.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, I think that's kind of been the word
today about Shador Sanders, is that some of the stuff
has been said publicly about him, and that's just other
people are knocking him and you know, make them look bad.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So let's go there, Henry, I want you to get
involved with this. So why do you think that Shador
did not get picked in the first round? Hey, and
if this is the worst thing that happened to Shador,
he'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
You want me to talk start, Yeah, you know, I'm
not a talent evaluators, so I don't know, but I
some of the things I heard today was it. I
guess he and cam Ward had been training together and
sometimes the scouts. Scouts would be out there and they'd
be like so obvious that cam Ward was better than him,
stronger arm, bigger, able to run better. I mean, there

(03:04):
are those kinds of things I heard. Again, I don't know,
we weren't there, but that's those are some of the
messages that we're getting. There's obviously the Dion factor, I
think is going to play and it's good, and what
say you know that he's he's a big personality and
other player's fathers sometimes can get in the way and.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Who knows, yes, so that you're thinking that may have
got him out of or had him fall out of
the first round. No matter who deals with him, second, third,
fourth round, is going to deal with that. If that's true, right, uh,
then why would you even want him? I mean, you'll
put up with a bunch of crap for a good player.
But I'm not sure if that plays a part. But

(03:45):
I like the the thought on it, because yeah, they
come as a package. Right.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, we saw the ball fan was Lamal LaMelo, their
dad whatever his name was.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, that's a different the dude that's just crazy because
he didn't play. I mean that's true. You know he's
so dad trying to pump up his sons. Henry, what
do you think?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I think a lot of it was kind of what
Dave said about the big personality, But I also think
it's just a lot of teams don't need a quarterback
as badly as people see.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's another one I think today I was coming Ribs
one in the first round. Yeah, we were talking now
or some of the guys an analysis was talking about
the thirty third pick and the fortieth pick that maybe
the next wave here because after that nobody needs a quarterback.
That's where maybe Cleveland comes into play. That was a
talk last night.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Was there going to get him that Cleveland makes all
these all these deals early on? But that didn't that
didn't work out that way. So yeah, last year, what
six in the first round? This year too, and they
were saying all along, this wasn't a great quarterback class
obviously compared to the last year.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I didn't watch him enough to know that he
was good or bad. I just you know, he's just
the son of DM Well.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I mean, he comes into a program that was horrible
and they basically got him to be pretty respectable. They
had no defense and basically had no offensive line. It
seemed like, so every game was basically you know, fifty
to forty.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah. So one of the things, and I'm sure I
don't know we talked about this with oh Rhino yesterday.
I don't know if you got these calls for basketball
when when the draft was happening, But I got a
number of calls when I covered it day to day.
You know, how's how these guys doing in public? In
the public? Did you hear anything off the off the court?

(05:22):
How were they with you dealing with you? BD wise?
Did you have to answer some of those.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I really don't remember that ever happening. That you would
get calls from other newspaper people.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, no, No, from NBA teams, actual teams now, yeah,
I never did. Yeah, the reps or the you know, scouts,
how is he in this situation? And I said, well,
you know, mostly it was about you know, the two
thousand and one guys, you know, Gilbert and Richard and
Luke and people like that. Never had issues with them.
They spoke freely, of course, and Loot allowed it, which
was great. But no, never any issues.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I don't ever recall anyone from the pros ever reaching
out to us. I think it seemed like they were
mostly relying on what they would see in the media,
and they could probably base it on just you know,
seeing stories and seeing who was interviewed. Are they are
they out there publicly? You know, will they be will
they be comfortable doing that? You know with the professionals.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, one of the things I think too that involved
Shador was more of his uh his not body language,
but his attitude were my poop doesn't stink kind of thing?

Speaker 5 (06:21):
I think?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Did he come off that way?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
I heard those stories too that his interviews were not good,
and you know that's I guess you hear that from
the combine or whenever those interviews are done with teams.
But apparently didn't grade out too well there either, So
that could be another issue. And somewhat much of it's
gonna be a it's gonna be a big pr move.
Whoever takes them, it's gonna be big news, you know.
He basically as soon as cam Ward was drafted, that

(06:43):
was like we barely heard about.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Him all night long last night. It was like, well,
is the dog gonna get picked? Yeah? Well do they
still take the wonder? I'm not sure. I'm not sure
because we have I haven't heard much of it, but
I'm just remembering that's what they used to do, right,
And then you'd hear some oh this guy failed that thing,
you know, take a left it out crickie, where you
go stupid questions? Right? Uh? So, I probably they don't
do that anymore. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I don't know, but again, there were some there were
some stories about him not doing well with the interview
and not handling himself, you know, like he didn't really
care too much about it.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He was talking to general managers of these teams. Yeah,
well he's already made millions yeah on his I L
L right, yeah, you know, and then flashing the watches
and you know, treating people whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, I mean, they kept cutting to them during the broadcast.
I don't know, I was switching back and forth between
the NFL and ESPN broadcasts, and uh, you know, he
cut into him at the house, showing him standing there
like watching TV.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And just where were they at Texas? Oh okay, so
they were somewhere else. There was somewhere else and they
were like a Dion's house, yeah, okay or whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, they weren't in Colorado, they weren't in Green Bay.
But there was just about everybody else that was in
Green Bay got picked, except I guess the Alabama quarterback
showed up and no one really Jaden Milroe. Yeah, yeah,
no one really and projected to go in the first round.
But he was there anyway, Okay, was he in the
room the green room, were out on the stands.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think he was in the room, you know, Okay,
some people just go and sit in the stands, and yeah,
happened to be there. Yeah, they introduced him.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
They did like a runway shot at the beginning of
the night where they all you know, all the ones
that were invited, I guess, were there, and he was there.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He was on that on that stage. Yeah. I remember
doing that with Mike Bibby when he was picked number
two and two ninety eight. Uh, the O'Neill kid, the
youngster germano news German, and he went and fell and
fell and really and he was sitting there just waiting
and waiting to be picked back in those days. And
he turned out to be a pretty good player. Whatever

(08:38):
happened to Michael olo Kandi. Oh yeah, Well I wrote
that column that night before knowing that in Vancouver, knowing
that they were going to pick uh, they weren't gonna
pick Bibby, which made no sense. And I said, well,
the Clippers being the Clippers, because they went and in
the GM at the time, I can't remember his name.
He said, you can't teach hyde. Yeah, but you can't
teach winning either, you know, and that's what Bibby did. Yeah,

(09:01):
that was bad. I remember.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Just that.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I remember that night. Just as soon as I said,
you know, the.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
First pick in the draft is Michael, everybody just starts cheering.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Again, where do you play?

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You should know this. Damon coach there Georgia Tech specific
Oh u a p that's right. Yeah, Yeah, that was
a strange one because he was he was a big,
big dude, right. It just didn't have the didn't last
more than three or four years. Basically, That's why these
things are crap. That's why recruiting is a crap shoot.

(09:35):
That's why these these drafts are crap shooting. Yeah, you
just never know, especially especially this sport football.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
It just seems like, you know, all it takes is
one bad injury and your your whole everything you've worked
for could be could be messed up, just just with
that one one thing. Basketball, they seem to come back,
I mean, other than like the Achilles that seems to
take all the time, but usually basketball players are a
little more resilient.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, so we'll see what happens. What time does that start, Henry,
do we know six five o'clock again? Five four, So
we'll be doing this show. Okay, so he'll keep us
updated as we move forward. Okay, So Drew Dixon here
at three seventeen, former U of A football player slash
now slash other school Limestone What did you say? Limestone College?

(10:22):
Limestone College? Do we see where that was at South Carolina?

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, okay, So he'll be on the show. He's now
with the Sugar Skulls, you know, obviously the indoor league
team here at Tucson. So we'll talk to him, and
then at four seventeen, I think it's going to be
I don't think. I know it's going to be coach
Shields from the men's tennis team. All he does is win,
So we're gonna have him on going to the next

(10:46):
round the regionals I think, or whatever, to the playoffs. Na. Yeah,
they're done very well. We'll talk about his time there
this year and he just continues to win.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I mean men's tennis never really been much of a
factor though in our news for a long time, and
they've kind of emerged with some great players.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, not just now recently, right over the years. I
said this when with Jay and I are doing the
story doing the show last year that I thought, no,
no disrespect to all the other ones, that Clancy Shields
was the best coach on campus. Yeah, look what he's done.
This doesn't happen by accident. He's done unbelievably. Well.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well, I mean it's good to see moving into a
different term, different to conference and they're going to dominate.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think. Yeah, well they were pretty high up there
in the PAC twelve to USC. I think the USC
was the team to beat and beat him a couple
of times. So, you know, like you said that, they
weren't in the news very much. Now they're in the
news a lot. No, I mean he was.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
He was doing pretty well. Mountain Region Coach of the Year,
Mountain West Coach of the Year, Southwest Region Coach of
the Year, and then it was PAC twelve Coach of
the Year three times, you know, twenty four to twenty nineteen's. Yeah,
there's been some success out of that program and nobody
saw coming.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, no, no, I don't know. Okay, let's take a break, Henry,
and we got about five five in the break, about
five minutes. Yeah, okay, we'll take a break and come
back with I think Drew Dixon.

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Speaker 1 (17:08):
Breaking down all the xys and ohs. This is Eye
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Hey, welcome back to in the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera and we'll be today
is Dave Silver Now on the phone. We have Drew
Dixon former you a wide receiver now with the Sugar
Schools and Drew, how you doing.

Speaker 12 (17:32):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 13 (17:33):
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
We're doing fine. Hey, thanks for joining us. A nice
little move you've made recently, right joining the Sugar Schools.
How do you feel about it?

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yes, sir, so good.

Speaker 13 (17:43):
It's a great opportunity and you know, I'm glad to
be on the team.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Feel good to be back in your hometown area as
well to play some football.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
Absolutely absolutely being able to play from of the Tucson
fans again, you know, I'm excited about it.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Did you leave? What was your situation before you signed
with the Sugar Schools.

Speaker 14 (18:02):
So, before sign of the Sugar Schools, I had actually
gotten married in twenty three to my wife in New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (18:10):
And then I was in South Carolina finishing up.

Speaker 14 (18:13):
My last season with UH the Mike Ferry.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
And Jericho Katchery.

Speaker 13 (18:17):
And then from there I got an opportunity with the
Green Bay Packers, and then I also got an opportunity
with the Detroit Lions. Didn't make a roster, so I
was kind of in free agency for a while, and
then it was in September well a coach back had
reached out and I got an opportunity to sign a
contract with the Sugar Schools. And then I was actually

(18:39):
in Tucson during that time, and then now I'm now
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Here, No here okay?

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah yeah, no, kind of full circle, right, you're doing
all these things here. You must be about twenty five ish,
twenty six? Uh twenty six yeah, twenty six okay, So
still young? Do you hope to this might be a
dumb question. Do you hope to kind of show again
that you're still capable and maybe you get another shot
at it bigger? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (19:05):
Absolutely, Like you know, that's the gold plane is you know,
I am twenty six now, so I have two kids
and a wife.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
So it's like, you know, at.

Speaker 13 (19:13):
This point in my career, you know, I'm still young
and fresh in the body, you know, still able to
play the game, and you know, playing it better than
I was before. So yeah, I just keep playing, staying
in shape and staying ready for an opportunity to go to.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
A higher league.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Had you ever played indoor football before this?

Speaker 5 (19:32):
No, this is my first season indoor So what's what's happened?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Like it's just you know, switching to almost a different
sport in a way.

Speaker 13 (19:39):
Yeah, I mean it's real different. You know, it's similar
to the CFL. I guess with the high motions and stuff.
But you know, the field is fifty yards long and
twenty eight yards wide, so and then it's indoor. It's
just a totally different game with angles and.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
And just spacing on the field.

Speaker 13 (19:57):
He only got sixteen people on the field at the
time time, so you know, it's just a fast paced,
different game for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
So you've only been around for like a couple of games.

Speaker 13 (20:07):
Right, yes, so this will be our third game. But
this week, I actually I came down with the cold.
I was battling a cold last game, so I'm actually
gonna be sitting out of this game, so I don't
get the team just so I don't get the team sick.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, it makes sense. I think your skills is what
when's your next game this.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Weekend on Sunday, yep in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, okay, that's why. That's what I had read. Okay,
no cool, No, good for you. Good for you to
get to sit out and then get recovered here in
a second. Uh so, so, how has it been it
just being with the team and new group of guys.
Things like that.

Speaker 13 (20:41):
Man, just from hearing about the past of the Sugar Skulls,
they haven't been. They weren't doing well previously the past
two seasons. But with the group of guys that we got,
I mean it's you know, a coach says it's different,
but you can just feel that it's different. You know,
everybody is focused on details and we.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Want to win games.

Speaker 13 (20:59):
You know, the end of the day, it's called a
business trip for the kids that are out of town
coming here to Tson to play. But you know, we
got five four or five months to to buckle down
and and practice and and win games and and helps of.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Playing in the championship.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Are most of the guys, you know, former college players
that you know are hoping maybe for you know, another
shot at the big time or what's the goal of most.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Of the teammates.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Yeah, so we got a rookies on the team, so
a lot of them.

Speaker 13 (21:28):
Are first out of college as well, so you know,
coming to play and indoor football, you know, it's.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Just that it's a it's a step to go to.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
A higher league for sure.

Speaker 13 (21:37):
So you know, coming here and winning games and dominating
this uh this league, you know, definitely is the goal
to help us get back into those higher leagues or
get a first opportunity into those higher leagues for some.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Did you know any of the guys before you got
back on the roster, Did you play against any of them?

Speaker 13 (21:57):
I actually have not a lot of them are from
the East Coat, so it was my first time meeting
a lot of the kids. But yeah, I didn't know
anybody previously.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You've had You've had a pretty nice career, kind of
like a movement career. You came here Ata Sabino, right, Yes, sir,
How would you describe your career because it's been under
a few coaches too.

Speaker 13 (22:21):
Man, Yeah, it's been a journey, you know, it's been
It's definitely been a journey of oh, you know, just perseverance.
You know, I've been I played with rich Rod my
first season, which was my red shirt season, so I
wasn't on the field that year. But you know, after
he got fired, you know, it was a big change
for the Arizona fans and the players as well. But

(22:42):
when someone came, you know, we had high hopes and
you know, the it was looking like a new era
and everything was looking good. But then you know, the
Tusk community knows that we went nine and twenty within
those three seasons, so it was a real tough time,
you know, just making sure to stay believing in yourself,
believing in the product.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
That you have.

Speaker 13 (23:02):
But you know, it was just a real, real season
of determination, you know, even though you're losing, but just
still believing in the craft that God has blessed me with,
you know, and then even just being able to go
to a smaller school in South Carolina from Arizona, taking
that leap of faith, and then still being able to

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get the opportunity of going to the NFL and then
not getting on a roster. It was like, you know,
it's a lot, especially having a wife and kids. It's like, man,
you know, the game is, it's not guaranteed. So you know,
when you gets those positions, it's really just lies down
to your foundation of you know, what do you do

(23:43):
you believe in yourself or do you believe.

Speaker 14 (23:46):
In the talents that God has given you? And just
really trusting the process.

Speaker 13 (23:50):
You know, it's been a real process for me to
just stay patient and wait for my opportunities to arise.
And you know, I have you know, gotten opportunities, and
you know, I'm blessed to be able to say that
I'm still chasing the dream.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Are you still back and forth between quarterback and receiver
and which one do you prefer nowadays?

Speaker 13 (24:09):
So, you know, coming with the Sugar Skulls, you know,
our first two games, we had a real problem with
the quarterback position. So when coach Beck had signed me,
you know, it's been viable option to play receiver or quarterback.
So right now, you know, I have been practicing at
both positions, and it feels great to play quarterback again
and play my original position. But you know, right now,

(24:33):
I'm like, it's coach wherever coach needs me. You know,
I'm happy to play receiver or quarterback, just as I've
had experience now as a receiver. You know, I feel
I feel blessed to play quarterback or receiver. How you know,
it's always fun playing quarterback.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I was gonna say, how was it when they moved
you after playing quarterback all the time?

Speaker 14 (24:54):
Man? Yeah, it was a it was a it was
a business move, you know. You know, I just had
to trust my coaches and trust my mentors that it
was a good transition for me to give me opportunity
to get to the NFL. And I did get an
opportunity at receiver, so you know, it was a lot
of learning at first, just getting comfortable actually being coached

(25:15):
and practicing.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
At that position.

Speaker 13 (25:17):
But you know, it's always good to see, you know,
just production in your craft as you just continue to work.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Did you so and so after your time in with
Limestone in South Carolina, did you is Tucson home? Was
Tucson home all the time?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (25:36):
Well, I was in New Zealand actually for about a
month and a half after my season at Limestone in
South Carolina because I had my wife and I had
my first son at the time, So living out in
New Zealand, and once my agent kind of you know,
gave me a path to get ready for the draft.

(25:57):
I actually had came back to Tucson during time. That
was last January, and so just from last January to now,
I had stayed home. You know, I came home and
once I went with Green Bay, you know, we're kind
of just like where whatever opportunity I have will move there.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
But yeah, two sons been home for the past year. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
What about were you training in New Zealand as well
as starting a family? Are you playing any sports?

Speaker 13 (26:26):
Uh well, I was just just training for football, just
getting ready for the draft and just staying healthy and
you know.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Just continue to perfede my craft.

Speaker 13 (26:35):
But you know, I was staying active and training to
get ready for the league.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Like no rugby or anything like that.

Speaker 13 (26:42):
I you know, I didn't, but actually did get an
opportunity with the u n r L, which is the
National Rugby League. Well I didn't pursue that, but you know,
it's kind of just it's always there if I want to,
you know, play rugby, but I didn't end up playing.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
So let me ask you, what did you get your
degree in one and two? I'm sure you start party
already thinking about the future of giving you have the family,
what do you want to do when this.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Is all done?

Speaker 13 (27:13):
So I got my degree in business administration with a
minor and leadership.

Speaker 14 (27:18):
You know, I've always wanted to have been interested in
business and just.

Speaker 13 (27:22):
Being like a business owner and just being in sales
and stuff. So you know, actually now playing with the.

Speaker 14 (27:29):
Sugar skulls, I am in financial services now.

Speaker 13 (27:32):
So I'm an executive planner now, and that's kind of
like a field that I want to have as a
foundation as I start opening up different businesses and whatnot.
But you know, being in this field right now is
being an executive planner and helping people put their money
in the right places and setting up business owners to
you know, scale.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Or just be successful.

Speaker 13 (27:54):
You know, that's something that I'm really, I'm really liking
right now.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Did you graduate from Arizona? Did you get a degree
here or for the other from Limestone?

Speaker 7 (28:04):
Yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 13 (28:04):
I got a degree from Arizona and from Limestone, both
in business administration.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah. Cool. We were talking I guess maybe yesterday, the
day before, I don't know it was day or not,
but talking about some of the all time best players
to come out of Tucson. Obviously you're you're on that
list at some point somewhere in that list. Who are
some of the better players you faced in your time
and maybe some of the people that you saw growing up.

Speaker 13 (28:29):
I mean, you know, playing with Jamari Joiner and Stanley berry.

Speaker 12 (28:34):
Hill, like those are.

Speaker 14 (28:35):
Two other Tucson products that are real good.

Speaker 13 (28:38):
And Jamar is my real close friend and so but
obviously and then you got you know, b John Robertson
around the same age, about two years younger than me.
You know, those those three.

Speaker 14 (28:49):
People are some people that I just, you know, really
admire playing with.

Speaker 13 (28:54):
And being able to see them grow in Tucson and
become great products. You know, that's been really good. And
obviously my freshman year, Cam Denton was one of those
names too, you know, just a two soon great and yeah,
just a couple of names.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Did you grow up playing like youth football? Here a
Pop Warner?

Speaker 13 (29:15):
Yeah, so I actually started out playing basketball and baseball.
So for the longest time growing up, I was always
you know, wanted to be a Major League baseball player.
And then you know, obviously all my friends start playing
Pop Warner going to grade school, and then my mom
finally let me play when I was about eleven or twelve.
So once I started playing at eleven or twelve, you know,

(29:37):
football really just stole my heart and I just really
fell in love with football.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
What other schools were looking at you as you were
coming out of Sabino.

Speaker 13 (29:47):
Man, I had a lot of Pac twelve schools at Washington, USC,
Oregon State. I had some smaller schools in California, San Jose,
had New both in New Mexico's New Mexico State, a lot.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Of you know, and so mostly just then.

Speaker 13 (30:02):
And packed twelve schools were really.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So was it was this maybe too hyperbole. But when
you signed with you of a was it a completion
of a dream or you just felt maybe that was
your best opportunity.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Man?

Speaker 13 (30:18):
Uh, it was really you know, there was a there
was a few different things way and I you know,
my my freshman year, my grandma that you know, my mother,
and my brother and I we moved in with my
grandparents after my parents had got divorced, and you know,
just growing up in Tucson and going to the Arizona
games and watching the games with my family. You know,

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my grandma was a real big fan of She always was,
you know, wanting to see me play for the Arizona Wildcats.
And my mom had a whole bunch of health issues
in high school. She had got cancer my senior year.
But you know, I really was just wanting to stay
home just with everything that was going on. And you know,
you know, I had a lot of different OPPORTUNO used

(31:00):
to play quarterback at some schools and in Arizona. Wanted
me to switch the receiver, but I just felt that
I was supposed to stay home and that that was
the right decision for me.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah. I was gonna ask you, you're about what three
years too late? With his nil stuff.

Speaker 14 (31:15):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, absolutely, I mean it's a
great opportunity.

Speaker 13 (31:22):
For kids, you know, just to start building their portfolios
and and and their wealth. But yeah, you know, it
would have been a great opportunity to uh to get
something like that, but I know that they had just
passed something in court, you know, being able to give
a little bit of compensation to the players that missed in.
So I do have an opportunity from there to get

(31:44):
some get some compensation for that, which would be great.
But also also playing for the Sugar Skulls, you know,
I am also open now to be able to get name,
image and likeness deals. So you know there's a different
couple of sponsorships that I'm looking for and Hucson and
so that's a good.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Opportunity for me.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Now, yeah, it makes sense. I was gonna say too.
You might have potential clients from you guys.

Speaker 14 (32:07):
Teammates, Absolutely, absolutely, because you know, especially.

Speaker 13 (32:12):
Being in financial services now exactly being able to have
that knowledge of money, you know, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And they would trust they would trust another UA guy
or you know somebody who's like.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Them, right absolutely, Yeah, Okay, so you guys, you're going
the road this week, but you're back next Saturday for
a home game. Can you I've never been to a game.
I hate to say this, I have not been to
a Sugar Skulls. Can you let me know why why
I should come out and watch?

Speaker 14 (32:39):
Man. It's something different that you haven't seen.

Speaker 13 (32:41):
And you know, it is starting to get hot in
Tucson and people are looking for things to do, and
it's it's a great opportunity to go watch football indoors.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
And see something that you haven't seen.

Speaker 13 (32:51):
And you know, we're.

Speaker 14 (32:52):
Playing Arizona Rattlers.

Speaker 13 (32:54):
They we lost to them our first game up in Phoenix,
but they did win the champce being shipped last year.
And you know we're we're a championship caliber team too.
And and it's right here in our hometown, Tucson, and
we can showcase that this upcoming week. So you know,
I just think that with all the Two Song fans
that do come out and support, is a great atmosphere

(33:16):
for kids and families and anybody. So you know, I've
really recommend it to you come out and watch a game.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
How many people do you have going to see you?

Speaker 14 (33:25):
I got I got, let's see, I got I got
my two sons.

Speaker 13 (33:29):
I have an eighteen month old son and a ten
week old boy, and then I have my wife and
then my mom and then my grandpa and my brother.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
So about six seven years.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
That's so nice, little contingent. So let me tell you
when you played baseball? What position did you play?

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Man? You know, I've it's like every sport.

Speaker 13 (33:49):
I played baseball, basketball, and football. I've been an athlete,
but baseball, I would pitch. I would play center field
and play shortstop.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh nice, Yeah, so you had some you obviously, that's
where the tough position. Center you arrange cover a lot
of ground and the shortstop is like you know, you
got to cover a lot of ground. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, okay, Well,
thank you, Drew, thank you for your time. Good luck
you get well, and then we'll see you maybe next
weekend on the field.

Speaker 14 (34:17):
Yes, sir, I appreciate it, Steve, thanks.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
For having me be well.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Man, Take care, all right, take care.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
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Speaker 2 (38:10):
Hey, welcome back to wy in the ball. Here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver.
We've got Henry atte the controls. We take a caller
to five to two zero four one six seventy four forty.
Let us know what's up to day. Good to talk
to Drew Dixon, twenty six years old, life ahead of him, wife,
two kid, kids. Yeah, it's interesting story.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I mean, kind of lost track of what he had
done and turns out he's in New Zealand and you know,
gets married and has a couple of kids and comes
back and now he's involved in the Sugar Skulls. So yeah,
you're gonna get out to a game. I know, I
feel bad. I you know, I see the signs, I
see the advertiser. They just haven't had a chance. I've
been to a couple.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
The closer you are to the field, the better it is,
or a better feel you get, because it's crazy. It's
like car crashes, dire we play. Yeah, if you're higher
up at the music stuff, it is what it is.
But you're closer you can say, oh crap, what they
do and the quality of play is pretty good. I mean,
you can tell these guys that actually played yea, yeah,
we got a call. Hell yeh, hearing on the ball.
Who's this?

Speaker 12 (39:12):
It's Rick?

Speaker 5 (39:12):
How you doing, Buddy, David?

Speaker 12 (39:17):
I heard you speaking earlier about the interviews. Secure Sanders
had a different and I couldn't help. But going back
to the Johnny Manziel draft, and I don't know if
you remember that at all, but of course he was

(39:39):
taken I think number one by the Browns, which irritated
me because I'm an old Browns fan.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
But he had that.

Speaker 12 (39:47):
Same Manziel had that same I won't say just continess,
but that same elevated sense of worse right right, and
and it just and you know, you just if you're
an employer, which you know has been referenced many times

(40:08):
during this draft, these are employees you don't want somebody
that thinks they're more important than the rest.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Of the operation, right, no question, no question.

Speaker 12 (40:19):
And I think this is a great message for young
men and women who choose to elevate themselves in athletics
or any part of their lives, because none of us
are more important than the bigger pictures.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
So you're right.

Speaker 12 (40:35):
I hope that message gets conveyed much more because you know,
I've heard other people that are a little closer to
him speak to the He's a decent guy, he's just
you know, they spoke well of him. But it's the
public persona that that leaves people with that last impression.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Of a couple of times because have youer? Have youer
sent me a note?

Speaker 14 (41:03):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
New Heisel. New Heisl said this morning on a serious
XEM show that he heard from an NFL coach that
Shadoor Sanders accepted a FaceTime uh meeting from someone during
the interview with another with another NFL guy and stayed
on the on the phone the phone on the FaceTime,
so you know, he was having one conversation and got
FaceTime and then decided just that was more important.

Speaker 12 (41:27):
Yeah, and and again that's that's not going to bode
well for him professionally, you know, and he's already made
a ton of money, I mean, got good for him.
But it's sad because it the youth are very influenced
by some of these personalities, and I would hope that

(41:48):
they would look to some of the other athletes that
were that were drafted before him and follow that model
versus this. I call it the Johnny men the Ell syndrome. Yeah,
where he's bigger than the than the opportunity in front
of him.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
So here's here's something real quick to both of you
and Dave. Don't you think that now that they're getting paid,
not just a little a lot, that that inflates their
egos one and their self self importance. Oh?

Speaker 12 (42:17):
Absolutely. And you know, I was had lunch with guys
I went to high school with, and we were laughing
about Ken Giavanda. I don't know if any of you
remember who he was, but he coached at South Point
in the early seventies and then he went up to
I wanna's h one of the colleges up in the
Phoenix area, Junior College is up there, and coached for

(42:40):
many years. And we are all laughing. Can you imagine,
imagine having one of these guys play for Ken. I mean,
Ken would have run him right out of the damn
stadium if they had, and probably with broken legs to
boot he just you know, coaches back in those days
just didn't even you couldn't sieves of insulting your teammates

(43:03):
or your school or anybody else with an attitude like that.
And it's unfortunately, it's more prevalent than we think it is.
And that's that's the scarier part of this generation of
nil and everything else.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well in general too. I mean it's it's a job interview.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
You know, you're you're trying to impress an employer and
to go in there and you know, double FaceTime somebody
or just you know, blow off an interview or treat
it like it's not important.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
This is not a great sign.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I mean, we've all been in positions to hire people
and you know, you want to come off much better
than that. And so sure, if that's what he's doing,
I can understand why some gms are like, eh, we
can find other.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Players, and all these people talk, they talk to each other.

Speaker 12 (43:46):
Okay, Yeah, I'm just hoping to Browns, don't don't pick
them up in this third or second or third round
because as a Browns fan, and they made some serious
mistakes at quarterback, Johnny Manziel being the pre eminent mistake.
But Bernie Gozard, when you go back way back when
he was one of the things they loved a bottom.

(44:07):
He was a humble guy, and he was all about
the bigger picture and not about himself and that's what
made him such a fan favorite in Cleveland for all
those years. And so I'll leave it there, gentlemen, have
a great weekend. Cool.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You might have to pick a different team if you
want to have a better life in the NFL, say just.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Saying, yeah, Mike, Browns haven't won since they beat the
Baltimore Colts in nineteen sixty three, and they're one.

Speaker 14 (44:35):
Of two teams.

Speaker 12 (44:37):
They're one of two teams and the Detroit Lions is
my other team, and neither one of them have been
to the Super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Right, man, you might just stop watching the NFL.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
It's like watching the Cubs for all these years. But
at least the Cubs finally won one.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, Rick.

Speaker 12 (44:54):
Be Well.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Guys, So, Henry, you're a young man, you're going to
get out here in the real world. They're pretty soon.
Do the athletes today, I know you follow a lot
of these things. Athletes up today, these standers and those guys,
do they influence on how you look at things?

Speaker 13 (45:12):
Not really.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I just think it's how the new generation is.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
And tell me what do you think how they are?

Speaker 4 (45:18):
I think they're a little I wouldn't say COCKI you're
just more I don't know. They kind of don't structure.
The structure is kind of different than what it used
to be, so they kind of do things not a
certain way that it used to be.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
It's not a smooth not everybody though, No, no, of course.
And this I said this in the show. And I
don't know if with you, Dave or whatever. It asked
me all the time people ask me, what's the difference
between a good player, like a nice player, well thought
of player and one of those pain of the ask
players their parents how they brought them up. And I

(45:56):
say that without a question, if you have those good
people telling you what's right and what's wrong, and do
this do that they're good people like Luke Luke Walton.
That comes to mind, Chanting Fry. Some of these guys
and the other ones were paying the next but they
were good paying the next those guys. And I've said
this to I said this to Bill, I said this
to Susie Walton. I said, you guys did, and they

(46:17):
had a bunch of boys, right, what you guys did
fantastic raising your boys, because they didn't they were the Waltons.
You'd think they'd have this ego right, this thing. They
were just normal dudes. They were just normal dudes. Walton
drove that ugly beat up convertible rode into bikes every
now and again. You know what I'm saying. These guys
were just kind of normal dudes.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
I think family definitely has a lot to do with it.
And you know, we were not here in position to
really criticize, you know, how these guys are brought up.
But sometimes that's the reason, you know, things weren't true
stable at home.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
And isn't that the way that is in the world anyway? Yeah,
I think so, just you know, he's got a good parents,
he's probably good kid.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I mean, if you were watching last night during the draft,
I mean almost every if you're watching the ESPN broadcast,
they're basically in the green room and almost everybody had
some type of family there, whether it was mom, dad, grandma, brothers, sister.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, you know most of them did. So that was
that was good to see. And this is life.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
I mean these guys are between what twenty and twenty
three years old, and you know, it's the biggest thing
that's ever going to happen to them most likely, and
their parents are kept saying how grateful they were and
how proud they were, and I mean that was that
was one of the big words I heard last night,
was proud. They were proud of their son for doing
what they did to get to this level. Would you
see the t mac family interview, Yeah, that was the same,

(47:30):
his mom crying, Yeah, and just how humble they were
and come from a little beginnings or whatever and now
he's this yeah, and yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
It's going to be he's going to a totally different
part of the world and part of the country in Carolina,
and how you know they're going to react to him.
And you know, he's playing with a quarterback who won
the Heisman Trophy a couple of years ago, So that's
gonna be an interesting combo. But it's gonna be a
big culture move for him, coming from California to Arizona,
now to Carolina, Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
He's going to be making a lot of money. I
think he'll be perfectly Yes, yes, good another call, thank you? Hello,
you're on the air, Andine on the ball? Who's this?

Speaker 5 (48:10):
I stay with? Jim?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Jim? What's the word?

Speaker 14 (48:13):
Well, this whole college, pro high school athletics city is
starting to look like an eight foot tall jingle puzzle.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Mm hmm tell me.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
And the winds about ready to blow?

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Yeah, not in a good way.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Obviously, that wouldn't be good for a jingle puzzle.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
So tell me what do you think? How will the
pieces fall on the ground?

Speaker 5 (48:39):
But I think that.

Speaker 14 (48:42):
I think there's a real big problem brewing that nobody's
got their finger on you, And I'm not sure I do,
but I think it's I think it's going.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
To come from the fans, and I.

Speaker 14 (49:00):
Think it's gonna have a bearing on you know, just.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Think about where would kids.

Speaker 17 (49:08):
Get arrogance an attitude? Where would they get that.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
In these in these times?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
TV, social media? Money?

Speaker 14 (49:18):
Nah, I get there's probably two or three other places.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
What what did you have a couple of ideas well.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
The constant blast.

Speaker 17 (49:28):
On the news is politics. Oh, I see, that's all
about lack of all three.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 17 (49:36):
No matter which side of you approach it from there,
you know, people pointing fingers at everybody, and they're all
better than these people.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, I get you. I get you. That's a good point.

Speaker 14 (49:48):
That's twenty four.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Hours a day if you want to listen to it.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
All right, I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
We have a couple more could be that could be
an interest. See, you know theory, look at me, look
at me, look at me. Yeah, I'm not sure, but
I don't know. I don't see that so much in
sports personally, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I don't know. Well, maybe because you know, when we
see touchdowns and we see these things, you know, dancing
in the ends or whatever. I'm not sure that I
was gonna do with politics. No, no, no, But but
I understand this point of look at me, look at me,
look at me being loud.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, we live in a weird time. I mean, I'm
sure back in the sixties it was even weirder seventies.
Every every generation has they're weird, right, yeah, and everybody
says not, God can't get any worse than it does.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well, I mean, you know, we just have to come back,
you know, fifty years or so into the sixties to
see how athletes were portrayed and what they were doing,
and some were sticking out more than others and talking
much more than others. Nowadays, they don't even do that. Nowadays,
it's you know, more personal. But this this was like
a whole you know, generation of athletes who are trying
to lead the way.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, right, okay, we had about a minute. Yep, Henry,
can't we talk more about that? Not just kidding? Yeah,
that's what I tried to avoid.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I just I mean, I grew up. You know, in
those years it was a big like like ten, watching
the Mexico City Olympics and watching these guys protesting.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Sure, what's going on that? That was a different way
to get attention than that athletes do now. Yeah, well
there was sixty eight, right, Yeah, seventy two was the
shooting or the Munich Munich, Munich. We just remember Rascal
in Moscow. Yeah, so every time, every generation has its
own every few years, yeah, his own issues.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yeah, I mean most of the guys last night other
than you know, here I am this, you know older,
I'm older than them. Just looking at their clothes that
was cool to watch. Yeah, they were dressed. Yeah, I
mean I'm sitting there, which is like, oh my, look
at that. App look at that. I mean that was
more of the expression. That was fine. Iways see that
all the time.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
So what did you think about the introduction with plenty Matthews?
That was funny. That was funny, but a lot of people,
a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Sure they're mad, but you know, he's got a big
mouth and he's always been that way.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I think he has a podcast, he's on the air,
so it's like, give a hot mic to some crazy guys,
you know, you can against them. What is he going
to say? Oh god? Yeah, okay, yeah, So it was funny,
but it was not taken completely in a good way.
Well if you're a bearrass man, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Well.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
And also I got a message from President Trump blah
blah blah. Oh I know, I was worried.

Speaker 12 (52:13):
What is he?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I said? I was scared of right, right, Okay, let's
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