Friday, August 1, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is I on the Ball with Steve Rovera on
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Jacon Sauce
and now we have one with breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
This is I on the Ball, Breaking News on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Happy Friday to everyone out there. You're truly hit two
shoes on a Friday, closing out the week hot Friday.
I couldn't believe it when I stepped out. It's disgusting.
I'm not gonna start off starting off breaking news. Something
that's Steve. You brought up the Lou Olsen Legacy Classic

(00:47):
happening Saturday, January tenth, twenty twenty six and at Long
Beach City College.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, yeah, that I found that to be pretty interesting,
pretty cool. We know the impact.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Make sure why doesn't Tucson have you have.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Us?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You've been with us. We talked about this with Damon,
Josh h Bibby and and now Tommy have a four game,
four you know, four team weekend tournament end up playing
in Vegas or here, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Here with those four teams coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
They talked about it and matter of fact, last time
we talked to Bibby that they're still trying to maybe
talk about doing that and call it.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Something like that. Right, Yeah, but now this is a game.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's is it. Uh, it's high school. It's a high
it's a high school thing. It's high school thing. Yeah,
and that's where he kind of started us. Well he
was was. Yeah, so that's cool. Don tringgallis not Chringles. Yeah,
I think as one who who kind of started. So, yeah,
it's pretty nice. They already have the teams, right, I
think they had the teams. I sent you something. I

(01:52):
think they already have the teams involved in you know,
Long Beach area.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
That's where he was. But yeah, he's only there. So
there's there's that's where Yeah we got.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Look, there's there's three confirmed right now, Azy Compass Prep,
Redondo Union, and Inglewood among the high schools confirmed.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
To some Arizona baseball owen Cuff has been promoted to
the Director of Pitching, Development and Recruiting.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yes, sounds like a corporate job. Yeah, well that's what.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's a corporate sport. All college sports are corporate.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Yeah, no, they are for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
To some Arizona men's basketball assistant uh blcamists, I think
they say that last name. Baccamis was hired by Texas Tech.
They announced it officially an assistant you have assistant basketball
coach Texas Tech. Talk they're they're spending oodles of money.
That's on on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
He posted about it. Texas Tech posted about it.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Uh this was This was his quote from X I'm
leaving to some with the full heart of gratitude. I'm
forever indebted to coach Lloyd for believing in me and
giving me so so many opportunities to grow and develop
as a coach. To the staff, players, managers and fans
I love y'all.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
Yeah, you know, Texas Tech is becoming sort of a
an Oregon, and not not to that extent yet, but
that's the direction they're heading with the money that they're spending,
and not just on football and basketball, but you know,
softball and probably you.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Know, all their sports.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
There's somebody over there and who's just got a ton
of money and they're putting it into Texas Tech Athletics
and it's it's crazy. You know that somebody's come along
in a place like Lubbock.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's funny because Tommy and and the coach at Texas
Tech are.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
I may not be soon, but you know.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well he was the assistant to Tommy and the games.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, but but something's happening over there, no question quescause
you think about you, Gene, right, But it's kind of
in your Portland and that's where Nike is and Phil
niked and you know the whole deal. But there's somebody
over there who's just got more money than than they
you than they need, and they're just throwing it at Texas.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
So you ask the kids, because I'm not sure he
does know this. Uh, Beverly Hillbillies. You watch them, look
at you, look at that face.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
You don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Again, the Beverly Hillbillies, I've heard of it about.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Oh I never got to be old.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
So what happened? They were out in the field and
took a shot, took a shot and what happened? What's
that song say? Oil coming out of the ground, whatever,
bubbling bubbling from something.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
That gold, that gold, Yeah, that's what it is. Of
all these people who are spending tons. I'm just so shocked.
Pretty coat junction. I know you don't know them.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Come on, man, you got you gotta go look at
belly main and the cement pond.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, there's a jet throw.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
That's the line from a movie anyway.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
So sorry, you're just throwing stuff to the wind, now
you are?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
You were, like, no earlier than two thousand, you.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
Wouldn't know that, you know what? And this this program
used to be on in black and white, just so
you know.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, I don't want to watch those.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
Have you ever seen anything on TV or movie that
in black and white?

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
That Christmas movie?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh yeah, I don't it's yes, Okay, yes, I believe
that's a family tradition for my dad.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Okay, okay, all right, go on, you can google it
there a little bit.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
ESPN and the NFL have reached agreements on a massive
media NFL media deal.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I heard that this crazy the red of the red zone.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
That's all I was going to be offered by ESPN now,
but I guess I just I'm in here in the studio.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Right before the show started.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
There was an article in the Athletic and there's a
lot of detail and a lot of it, you know,
like the you know, the TV deals, it don't make sense.
But the basics are that the NFL is going to
own ten percent of ESPN, and then with that a
bunch of the NFL properties and the ESPN properties are
all going to get intermingled.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
So like NFL network.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Will be run well, it still exists, but it will
be run by ESPN and things like that.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
So you and I we're old, but we're not that
old in terms of being in this business right over
the previous business we were in. Right now, it's all incestuous.
It is because you have the network having to cover
the NFL, but they're in bed with each other. ESPN
they're they're they're definitely yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
I mean what started as a as A as A
as a news enterprise and look, and that's part of
the name Entertainment and Sports Programming network. If you don't
know what what ESPN stands for, it is an entertainment network.
But they've also for a long time we're posing themselves as.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
A news network. Yes, that is so far down the road.
They're so far in the rear view mirror, and.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
That's fine, but let's not pretend then, for for instance,
when you're promoting the sec over the Big twelve or
Big ten or whoever that it's. Don't tell us it's
not because you have a TV deal with them, it is.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Just call it what it is.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, say, we're you know, we're sleeping with our brothers
and sisters.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
But that's the way it is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, and it's true. It's gone that way for a while.
And anybody who's shocked shouldn't be right because now if
these guys aren't breaking their own stories, shame on them.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
So the thing that I saw again, like I like,
I pay ten ninety nine for an ESPN plus a subscription,
so apparently to get everything that they have. Okay, it's
gonna be like thirty dollars now when when this deal
comes together.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, they were, they were losing people left and right
right right now? Is this the way to get them back?

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Right?

Speaker 6 (08:04):
That's what That's what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Can you pay for that only and then get all that? Yes,
and enough have to deal with cable?

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Yes, Okay, that's and that that's what they're saying.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
It's fine.

Speaker 7 (08:17):
I heard that in the in our I heard because
we've heard of the term cord cutters. People who have
had cable and cut the cord and now they're all
their things are streaming. There's there there. There was a
term called cord nevers. So people who probably you know
Juan My, you know people like.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
That who.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
Just never had cable, We don't want cable, and they're
just picking and choosing. So this is going to be
like a conglomeration of sports programming that you're going to
be able to get. And I don't know where where
Sunday ticket falls in there, because Sunday tickets expensive as hell,
but you know you're gonna you'd be able to get
NFL network, You'll be able to get a red Zone,

(08:59):
You'll be able to get well different things, plus the
ESPN plus stuff it it'll cost thirty bucks a month.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well let me ask you both of you. So you
what do you watch on Hulu or what do you
watch t YouTube? You like NFL games? No?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Just TV? You don't watch TV because.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
No, I'll do stream apps like Netflix, and you pay
for your parents a little bit of both. Okay, so
I pay for second ones, they'll pay for one.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's how you watch TV and you watch you watch cable,
but you.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Have cable, but I have Yeah, I stream too. You
know I've got well, no, I've got on Comcast. I
get a bunch of things for free, Like I get
Disney Plus.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
I get but that for free. Question, I didn't say
for free.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
Disney Plus, Hulu and ESPN Plus for me come through
my Verizon phone.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Subscription. But I paid ten bucks a month for that
on Variety. Can I ask you how much you pay
for a month for everything.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
For my phone forever? To watch I'm paying three hundred
bucks a month. See that's the cable. Yeah, and I'm
paying like two fifty And I'm thinking, what the hell
am I watching?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I you know what I'm paying for the ability to
channel serve.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's pretty much it and just what you probably watch
six channel.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
But I get, I get, you know, well, I get
some movie channels. Then you're right, I watch.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I watch well, you know, a ABC, CBSMB, you know
when they've got sports on.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Sure, I do not watch any other network programming other
than sports.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
You know the same thing with TV you watch.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
But I watched Dateline, I watched forty eight hours, I
watched twenty twenty and then movies.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
That's it, right, that's what I watch.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
But I've got I got a Netflix subscription, but we've
got a family subscription. So now my family can you know,
can watch it? You know, my my, it's it's it's
you just have to piece it together. Look, I've done
the cost analysis of getting rid of cable and just
getting all what I watch and in streaming. Okay, and

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it's a little more expensive than then cables a little
more expensive than doing that, but not enough for me
to say I'm going to do that because what I
love to do more than anything channel to be able
to just channel surf and find something to watch the
stick without having to go without having to go in
and out of apps. If I were to go streaming
with everything I watch, it's it's in like the two

(11:28):
sixty range.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Anyways.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
If you if you want YouTube TV, if you want
you know, ESPNLA, all those things Netflix, you know, the
movie channels that we watch and stuff like that. It's
going to add up to that anyways. Plus plus you've
got to get internet. I've got I've got my internet
through through Comcast.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Well, welcome to the pression.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'm not paying that, Tom, How can I make this
last year?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
You can't, Yeah, you can, you can't.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean you can, but but it's not well there's
no point, really no point. It's just kind of because
you're gonna have to you know, like the like the
Internet part of my cable.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Subscription is like seventy bucks.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
But if I cut the cable and I just want Internet, it's.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Gonna cost me one hundred and something.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
When you add all that up, and then all these subscriptions,
and then the fact that anytime you want to change
the channel, you got to get out of an app
and into another one.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, that's not convenient for me. I don't want to
do that. Something we've already talked about. But the Hall
of Fame game was played last night. Chargers beat the
Lines thirty four to seven. Trey Lance, I guess you
could say showed out as much as you can for
playing with second third stringers.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Puts the event tomorrow? What do they have the event?

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (12:46):
It's tomorrow? Yeah? Okay, yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
So I'm watching the game and I'm at my desk,
so I'm flipping through Twitter and I've got the game on,
and the thing comes up that you know it was
it was seven to nothing, So there was a bet,
what's the next score going to be a field goal, touchdown, whatever,
and a field goal was plus three hundred, all right,

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and they lined up for a field goal and they
joinked it off the off the upright. If you've got
that bed, you're just you just want to you just
want a football season to end right now.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, they're thinking, were thinking about this NFL or maybe
college or in baseball, the play by play of betting,
like the pitches the guys in trouble for the.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Next is going to be a ball or that if
you quick enough.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
The thing the thing about it is they're trying to
maybe think about getting rid of that because of now
that we get the players in trouble, because there's inside
inside information.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Oh by the way, did you see did you see
the the the first down.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
By the electronic technological I didn't see that.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
So first you know, the chain gang.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
The chain gang is still going to exist because you
need to have something on the field so players know
where the first down is. But now for a measurement,
it's done electronically, just like you see on a in
a tennis match or something like that.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
I didn't know they did in the preseason last year.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I didn't know that either, because remember who was It
was Alan when he was trying to go back to
get that first down and he and they didn't give
him the first down or whatever.

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Now it still requires it's doesn't have to do with
the placement of the ball, but once the ball is
on the ground, they don't have to bring the chain
gang out to me to measure. They just they they've
got these a series of cameras and it sets up
and so it'll just come on the screen and there's
like a yellow line and we'll show you how far
the ball is.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, this will be more delay for the football. These
seasons must be quicker running through for the Review're not
going to have eighty five year old guys running out
there with the chains. What about us? What are we
to do with our lives?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Just gonna run through the last real quick.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
So during that before that game happened, they hold the
moment of silence for the four that were killed. But
you're shooting the Commander's new stadium deal was approved, so
they'll be getting that. They'll be returning to the district.
And then Iowa State and Matt Campbell had finalized an
extension through twenty thirty two. I'm surprised he's still there.
I am a good him, right, Yeah, that you don't

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Speaker 7 (15:17):
I mean you don't see guys sticking around Iowa state
is what it is, right, I'm just like you don't
see guys sticking around in Arizona. I mean, you know,
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Streaming live on the i Heearts Radio AaB. This is
I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera and with the
the day is Jay Gonzos. That one the phone we
have Dave Hersch, formerly of the Pac twelve and the
Veggest Bowl Game ESPN. All that, Dave, how are you
doing great? You have two you have two dudes that
hate you. How's how's retirement? You've already started drinking?

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Well, I'm a month into it, and uh it's it's
it's nice, I tell you.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
I mean, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
I went out play golf the other day and put
my phone in the golf cart and uh never looked
at until like the fifteenth, told to see what time
it was. I didn't have to check the text messages
or emails or voicemails or miss calls or something.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
So it's been pretty nice.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Wow, you're Steve's right, we're mad at you, But what
can we say?

Speaker 14 (21:01):
So?

Speaker 7 (21:02):
I mean, I know you get to a time and
there has to be a decision point, right too, I say, Okay,
I'm done. You know, not that you don't want to
do this anymore, but you feel like the time is right?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Well, how did when did that come to you?

Speaker 6 (21:15):
And how?

Speaker 8 (21:17):
Well?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
It was right around Christmas of twenty twenty three. Personal
some personal stuff happened. I lost a good friend of mine,
a former girlfriend that we were close. Unexpectedly and passed
away of a heart attack at age fifty seven. Two
days later, my best friend notifies me he's got cancer
and is starting chemo, and I was like, holy cow,

(21:39):
it's like, what's life coming to I said, I want
to go enjoy it before this stuff happens to me,
right And I you know, checked with my financial advisor
and to see if I could do it, and I said,
I'm not ready right now, but you know, I'm going
to get through the twenty twenty four Bowl game and
then then twenty twenty five retire. And she said I
can do it. And I'm like, that's yeah, some life

(22:00):
choices there, and I thought this would be a perfect time.
Now I've got a you know, a seven year old
Doberman that I rescued, and I want to get a
like a camper van and tour the country with him
and just kind of, you know, see the third largest
ball of twine in which is.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So now. So I just googled what is a financial
advisor and how do I get one. That's why I'll
be working this gig till seventy two. But that's cool,
given that you've had a chance to see a ton
of games, go to a number of places all over
the country and the world, and you say, Okay, I've
had enough, I've seen enough. Uh Is that kind of

(22:38):
part of it too, you know you you can still
go to the games obviously, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
And that was, you know, being in the Bowl business
was a lot different than being in the Conference office
because the Conference office I was at games all the time,
going from one school to the other each weekend. I've
been at the ball four years, and the first year
I was here, the first weekend, I'm like, well, what
am I supposed to do? I don't have to go
to any games. It was I'm like, getting me ready
for retirement because I didn't have to go to games.

(23:03):
I could watch my TV or I could go hike,
I could do anything I wanted to. So it was
kind of a nice little adjustment and getting me ready
for that retirement. But you know, looking at the way
college athletics has changed in the last five years, I'm
just like, this isn't the way it was when I started.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
And you know, with the NIL and the.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Transfer portal and the conference realignment, it.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Just has changed so much.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
It's kind of I don't want to say I'm discouraged
by it, but it's just kind of a downer. And
I think the issues are student athletes are going to
have is health and health issues, health and mental issues
here in the next couple of years because of you know,
I see USC and U c l A traveling all
the way back to play soccer at Rutgers, you know,
and come back.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
You know, it's it's hard on these student athletes and
it's just not the way it was when we when
we when I got into.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
Business, Do you have our listeners some of your backgrounds,
So you started as a U A sports information guy
at the U of A. U of A grad played
base ball there, right, Did you cover the basketball team
for for a lot of years as there as their
media relations person went over to the conference office kind
of when they moved to San Francisco, Right, isn't that

(24:14):
when you when you went over there?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
No, it was the office was in Walnut Creek, Okay,
and was out there for many years. And then when
Tom Hansen retired and Larry Scott came on board shortly
after he was there, he started the network, had that
downtown and then eventually moved the office into the same
building with the with work.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So but in saying that you saw a lot of stuff.
You know, I like to think you're still a u
of a guy. But you know what's uh.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
You know, when you think about the exciting points of
your career pretty much at those two places, what are
the ones that come to come to mind or are
at the top of the list in terms of the
things you saw experience.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Maybe it was getting the.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
PAC twelve tournament started in Vegas, whatever it.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Was, personally it was.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
I mean I walked on and played baseball for a
couple of years, and you know, only got the fortunate
opportunity to dressed once with the varsity with a three
game series at ASU and looking out the field and
I saw Barry Bonds out there and oud have been McDowell.
I go, those guys are pretty good. I don't think
I can hang with these guys. But and then I
went and talked to coach Kendall after I got cut,

(25:23):
and I asked him about an opportunity to get into
sports management, as there an internship opportunity in the athlete department,
and he right away didn't hesitate, got on the phone
and called Toms Eddleston and sent me over as a student,
and that kind of got me on my career path.
And you know, after working in Arizona and moving to
work in the Pac Ten at the time, you know,

(25:43):
I couldn't thank Coach Kendall enough for me for the
way I progressed through my career.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
And it was a great opportunity.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
And but yes, always a wildcat at heart, you know,
always bear down in the back of my mind. You know,
even though you're in the conference and you're supposed to
be neutral, you know, it's always liked back. And finally
in Arizona days, especially Jake, you and I playing baseball
this summer with Dick Tomy and we had a salute
of former student athletes that would play for us over
the course the coach the time, and it was just

(26:11):
a great time. And always have enjoyed being in Tucson
and reliving those days.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
So I can't remember your last year because that's when
you were with Loot and then you left ninety something.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
So experienced the Final four ninety four when we went
to Charlotte and that was you know, Damon and Khalid
and Joseph and that was a great team.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
And then the.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Ninety seven Final four, the championship team. I mean, I
was fortunate to work in the conference, to work every
final four for the NCAA.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
We'd go do credentialing and you.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Know, I'd work as a timeout coordinator at various sites
and got to go to the Final four every year
and was there for the Wildcats in ninety seven in Indianapolis,
which was a big throw.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
So all these all these time ninety three, that's thirty
years ago. Uh, give me, give me, and don't say
Arizona unless they fit the fit the bill. Uh. Top
three basketball players that you saw in that time, and
then football.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Players, top three that I worked with.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
No, no, no, that you saw. You saw so many
guys and we've all seen the guys that you've seen.
But give me your three, your top five or hope,
however you want to do it. Basketball and football, Basketball
and football.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
I'd like to give you golf because I worked on
our Pack twelve golf.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
There's gotta be there's gotta be huge names there too.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yeah, I mean our Pack twelve championships.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
It's just like Patrick Cantley, Max Homer, Wyndon Clark, John Rahm,
John Moore, Uh, colinmar Akalla. Just these recent guys can
go back to you know, Ferick Micholson and Woods. Unbelievable
athletes right there, basketball and foot and football. It's wow.
One of my favorites is Andrew Luck in Stanford.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, uh wow.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
What else can I go through? Because I just you.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Know, I had personal experience with those I took actually
Nick Foles, Andrew Luck, Jake Locker, and Matt Barkley back
to ESPN to do a car wash.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
We did a promotional tour and.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
I took those guys and and then afterwards we took
them to New York City and they did the Empire
State Building and went and at dinner with these guys,
they got along great.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
It's just like one of the moments as I'm these
guys and they.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Just are ordinary guys and they are they were so
neat to hang around with and they all got along
and so it's just you know, seeing these guys off
the field, and it's like Damon working with Damon Saddam
are a great basketball player, but he always the best.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
But he did I'll never forget.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
We had an interview, practice interview session with him, and
he would could keep himself afterwards, and I'm waiting for
him to say exactly what was on my mind.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
And he finally said, you know, I say you.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
A lot, you know, you know you know, And I
was like, yeah, I just pause. You don't have to
say just think about something. You don't have to fill
that in.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Just pause.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Well, after his first game, we did a postgame interview
on the court and I'm staying there and he finishes
up here looking at me.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
How I do I said, I only counted one.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Oh, I didn't think I had any to be better
everything he did.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, No, that's a great observation because it's very true. Uh.
And he the thing about it too, with him, he
got it. He knew that how important the media was
for his his signature, you know, moving forward.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Dave tell us about because as a as the media
relations guy for basketball for a number of years, your
relationship with Loot and what that was like, and you know,
what do you know about him that maybe we don't
know or maybe people don't know in general things that
you saw, you know, because people always want to, you know,
kind of get closer figure out Loot a little bit more,

(29:51):
because you know, I think to this date there's a
lot of people don't know him, but you you were
in a position to see him and in ways that
a lot of us can see.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Yeah, you know he's I was gonna say probably when
we went on that tour in Australia prior to the
ninety four season.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
It was in the summer of ninety three.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
And you know, he didn't have to worry about, you know,
the people around him. It was just it was just
us and whether we're in wine country or we went
to a gold mine and Bendigo and he's putting on
a hard hat and he's.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Just he was just like everybody else.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
I mean, it was no different than you know, your
next door neighbor or your dentist or whoever. He was
just he was just being, you know, one of the guys.
I've had the opportunity to be in many coaches meetings
with him, and you know, he's very professional.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
You know, he was just like one of the other coaches.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now, there wasn't anything special, but he was just a
great coach, a good family man.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
You know, Bobby always deflected a lot for Loot.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
So, like to go out to dinner and and people
would come up and say hi to Loot. He'd be polite,
but Bobby would take over the conversation so Luke could eat.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, you guy, you didn't mention it was Reggie Bush.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Reggie was awesome.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Probably the best game I've ever seen was the Rose
Bowl with USC in Texas the national team.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Ye Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
That's you know, being there, and I'll never forget being
in the press box. We we ran the media operation,
the Fact twelve conference ran the media operations for the
Rose Bowl at that time.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
And we're in the press box and USC.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Went up i think by two scorers at one point
late in the game, and Tom Hansen stands up and
you're not supposed to check in the press box, you
don't know that, but he goes. He gives out a whoa,
He turns around just like a pirouette, and he high
fives our interns as he was leaving the press box.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
I'm like, oh no, he just and we all know
they lost. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:54):
Well, you know you think about that game, right, I mean,
how big a game was that? And you got all
time you mentioned all the final or as you went
to and then those Rose bulls you went to, you
got to see a lot of that. Was there ever
a time that you kind of look at you, you know,
kind of thought about it and said, what the hell
am I doing here?

Speaker 12 (32:13):
Yeah, you do.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
You pinch yourself like I've got the best seat in
the house without paying for it. You know, I'm getting paid.
And one of the greatest moments is being on the
Rose Bowl field for the kickoff and the flyover.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
Ashley Adamson. I just saw her last week.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
She was doing the Big ten media days and she
comes up to me and she goes, I'll never forget.
It was one of the greatest moments. Thank you so
much for keeping me on the field. She was getting
ready to leave the field and I said, you have
to watch the flyover with with the bomber Felt Bomber
and it comes over and it's just so low and
the whole place is going nuts, and you know, I
get chills now just watching that, and then with the

(32:51):
opening kickoff of the Rose Bowl game.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
It's just it's a great feeling. Nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
You mentioned the trip to Australia. I think you were
probably with the guys when they went to swimming and snorkling,
and this reminds me of the story with Klid, who
you know, hated water, didn't want to get into the
water and had a snorkel on and it was doing snorklings. Hey, guys,
there's fish down here.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah, we had We were at one of the hotels
before went to the Great Berry Reef and condo, Steve
cond and the trainer was working with Kalid and helping
him swim because Clid had never been swimming.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
We'll have our life preservers on as.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
We're out there, life jackets on out there, and you know,
and the and Loot's down there with him.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
He kind of coaching them just like he does in
the corner. Get in here and you got to do
so Lud.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Is taking control, right, Kalid get the water and all
of a sudden you hear him screaming through his snorkel
and he.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Does he lifts his head up and he goes, hen,
there's fish down here. I was like everyone was just
bust up laughing. It was the funniest thing, right right.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
No, And you Arizona had some great players, right So
basketball basketball you talk about maybe the I guess Ida'm
keief and then we're still here. You were still here
at you they but maybe the Jason Kidds did Jason kids.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
That was when I was at Arizona. But when I
was in the conference.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I mean, Kevin Love and Oj Mayo, we're pretty special
players at U C, l A and USC.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
I'm trying think with other players. It's like there were
so many of my hate to leave.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
I mean, your rolodex has got to be just spinning
like crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
And Stanford guys Casey Jacobins and those guys, and you.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Know you've got uh you know, like like Jay said,
a rolodex is like I was forgot a name the
other day of somebody and I was so frustrated on
is this Like, am I getting old and I'm getting
forgetful and I got dementia or whatever?

Speaker 6 (34:43):
And I'm like and my friend.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
Said, no, it's just like your rolodex is so full,
You're just taking a long time getting to that name.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
That's exactly I use that all the time. There's too
much stuff up there, Dave, too much stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Are you are you still? Are you still gonna go
to games? I asked for a reason because I have
a follow up.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Yeah I will.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
I mean, yes, I'm retired, but if there's something going
on here in Las Vegas. In Las Vegas now is
to come to the sports and entertainment capital of the
world with you know, all these basketball events and they'll
eventually have the final four here in the CFT Championship.
You know, if somebody needs help, I'll you know, be
glad to help out at an event.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
You know, go over to un LV.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
This idea un LV Andy Grossman, former Arizona student and
work in our office there as a student. He's you know,
I was looking for outb I'll just go over and
help him. It's not like I'm gonna totally avoid it.
But if i want to leave with five minutes to
go in the game, I can leave.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
But that's why I was gonna ask if you didn't go,
would you miss it?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
One and two? What was the other one?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh? So I'm not a fan. Jay's a fan of
a lot of things, right because he's a fan. He
got out of the business for one of that reasons. Right,
I'm I'm kind of you know, he's kept my head
forward and don't cheer for anybody? Uh do were you
able to cheer for anybody? And if not, can you
go back to doing that?

Speaker 6 (36:05):
Well?

Speaker 5 (36:05):
That is tough because you know I go to games,
you know, even like when Sam Francisco and go to
the Giants and watch the Giants and became a Giants fan.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
It'd be hard. It just I wouldn't clap just like
great play. Yeah, yeah, cheered.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
I'm sure at some point, you know, I probably have
to start out like in Little League, going to my
you know, nephews and niece's kids games and like cheering
for them when they do something to get me started
back into cheering.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
That's too funny.

Speaker 15 (36:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
When I go to the games, it's not so much now
for the games, but it's to see the people that
I've worked with. I mean, there's some great people that
worked in the conference that are now at other schools.
It's like if I go over to the Mountain West Tournament,
I see former PAC twelve employees, former you know, people
in the conference that work in the conference office or
other schools.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
You know, the officials. I know quite a few of
the officials.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
And I'll go down an officials locker room after you know,
game and chat up a couple of the.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Officials that I know.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Well, so it's kind of want to go see the
people that you worked with.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Yeah, well, now that the prices are so high in
Vegas in the hotel rooms, save me one of your bedrooms. Please,
How do you request? How do you request? Do you
get for that?

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Well, no one really requests to stay here except Doug Tamroad.
He was on the state, comes up here.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Don't let him needs all my food, hot waters, golf.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Well he's a nice you guy. Of course you can
eat all your food.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Issue guys, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Uh, you know. I always offer people, but a.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Lot of them want to stay down on the strip
because they that's what they come in here for.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
And I learned quickly how expensive it is here.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
The first week I was here, I met a couple
of friends came into town and wanted me to join
him for dinner. And it was a you know, sushi
at a nice sushi restaurant. And it's like, I spent
three hundred bucks and I was still hungry and it
was pretty sushi. But three hundred bucks later, I'm like that,
why am I doing that? And the friend said, you
learn quick. People go broke here. And there's two reasons
that people come to town. They I'm in for a vacation,

(38:01):
so they budgeted for their meals, the shows, the gambling,
the drinks. Or they come in for a work event convention,
basketball tournament, where you're reimbursed for your business expenses.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
I've gotten neither. I live Yeah, you live here?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah yeah, well your financial advisor. You might have to
talk to her. Yeah, thanks Dave. Thanks Dave for joining us.
That a lot of fun, fun talking to you day.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
Good and congratulations that you're you're getting out of there
before you're worn out.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
And I'm assuming, I'm assuming that we'll see you early
November for Arizona Place, Florida first game of the year
that's in Vegas.

Speaker 16 (38:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah, she don't even know the schedule.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Because you're retiring, but we hate you.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Actually, I think I'm going to be in Phoenix playing baseball.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh is that the for the older guys Division World Series?

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, it's a men's Senior baseball league. Yeah, Series TMP Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, so just leave the keys under the mate, I'll
say that.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
Just feed the dog for me.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh okay, okay, I might ever see the dog. Okay,
thanks a bunch.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
Sank you, Dave. Hey, my pleasure, fun.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Thanks take care.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
That was Dave hershchef from formerly on the PAC twelve
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Thank you for all the suggestions about cutting the cord.
How much I can spend? I think there are probably
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Joint Hulu.

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My son's got YouTube TV, okay, so and there's a
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Yeah, and you pay for it and whatever and you
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That come with it.

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Yeah, and that's what I'm doing now.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's us.

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I'm not afraid of it's your style. It's it's just
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Speaker 3 (45:08):
I don't want to do in the difference now. Like
for me, I don't like channel surfing as much. I
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I'm doing anything else. Yeah, yeah, you know. And again

(45:30):
I can only men like with my son dude to
watch the sports, right. I mean, he comes to my
house and I could be watching something. He just grabs
her the remote and changes it.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
He said.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
His favorite thing to watch right now, his favorite thing
to watch is Major League Baseball big inning and that
you put on you put on the MLB channel and
you got four games going on all at once, and
he'll just walk in and he'll put that on. And
he doesn't care about any any of the games, but
he just loves watching that because he loves watching the
ball players and he you know, big on fantasy baseball.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Like, so he's just got four games on. That's what
I do for the NFL. Yeah, four random games until
the Broncos.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
Playing, like like you know, uh, my brother and I
get to get the Direct TV the Sunday ticket package
because I like putting on a game, right, I get
the Red Zone with my Comcast subscription. But I like
putting on a game and watching a game. He does not.
He comes over and not only does he change a channel,

(46:31):
he yells.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
At me for watching the game.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Dad, why are you watching one game?

Speaker 7 (46:35):
Because that's what I want to watch, you know, And he'll.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Put on the red Zone, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, that's all I watch it. I'll do it when
my team's playing. I'll watch a game when my team
is playing. But if it's just if it's the morning
morning block of games and the Broncos usually playing in
the afternoon, I'll just put on four random teams and
wait for someone to make a play.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
Well you know, well YouTube, you know, getting Sunday ticket
through YouTube. It's on YouTube now you can. They have
the choices, the blocks against. You know, I'll go through
and I'll find the one that has the most games
that I care about, right.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Usually because I got a bet on them, right, But
I'll see that.

Speaker 7 (47:12):
Okay, on here, I've got you know, I've got this game,
this game in this game, and so I'll put that on.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
But there's a lot of times I just want to see.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
One game because that my fantasy quarterback is playing or whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
And that's why you can't remember the names, because there's
a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, that's my reasons
probably too. Yeah, whatever, what do you say the Rollodecks,
the Rolodecks. Sure, sure tonight that the cats play under
the lights? I think great. Practice fifteen until about whatever
time I guess i'll practice is open, I don't think

(47:45):
so just for the media, for me, just for local media, right, Okay,
let's say and then again off tomorrow, Morrow, and then
back on Sunday, back on Sunday. Have you been No, No,
just too busy with other things. But I hope to
go there soon. I'll have your assignment to be done. Yeah.
The one thing about Redden. You don't know him, right,
We don't really know. I have talked to him a

(48:07):
couple of times. What what's the first thing that you
would say, because I'm kind of right in the story
if like if I met him?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
No, no, no, what you know of him?

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Now?

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (48:15):
What do I think?

Speaker 6 (48:15):
I know?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
She told that thought about I get this, Well.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
No, I feel to me he seems like a regular guy,
you see.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
The one thing is of her good guy.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Yeah, that he's just a regular guy.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
He happens to be a major college football code.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
But otherwise, you know, probably a guy that you'll see it,
you know, getting a coke and a snicker bar or something.
You know, like the time I saw Tommy Lloyd having
lunch at Canes.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
He's just either by himself having you know, in shorts
and a T shirt. He's having some canes and nobody
was bothering.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
No, they left, you know, no, And that's it. He's
the thing that I've talked to a number of people.
He's a good guy. He's a good guy. And I'm thinking, yes,
very much. So.

Speaker 16 (48:57):
Sometimes you need to be a pain in the neck
to be a football, to be a football, coach. It's
almost like a requirement because just because you don't have
to be.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
To the level of a maccamick pain in the neck,
but kind of a mix of rich Rod.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
And him, yeah between somewhere in between.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Right.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
I talked about the well, somebody who's you know's gonna
get pissed off when he needs to get pissed off,
which yes, I feel like Brandon probably does.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
But we don't see it.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I've said that before too, and that's kind of that's
kind of how I talked to media days. Some of
the players blah blah blah, and because I'm doing something
for you, and then that's kind of the underlying team.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
And I think that because.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
He's been to it already, know what he can't do
or shouldn't do, that that'll change.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Yeah, does that make sense?

Speaker 8 (49:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (49:40):
Well again, like like like Donal was saying, you know,
Brandon's even though he's been a head coach, he was
a head coach at San Diego State, he's been he
has not been a head coach at this level. He's
learning about about that, right, and I think he learned
a lot and he talked about how much he learned
last year by the fact that he spent all his
time just trying to keep his players. He realized he's
got to do yes, he's got to keep his players.

(50:02):
He's got to go out and get some more players.
That was a huge deal when he said that. In
self reflection, at least, you know, hello, my name is Steve.
I have a problem. Whatever nights, you have this problem,
and I'm going to get it fixed. And and that,
and so I in my feeling is that that's a
great fit for Arizona.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Right.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Let Nick Saban go be the Alabama coach where he
runs the entire university or or you.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Know whoever, whatever school.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
Brent Brandon is here to coach at a place where
it's a little bit more easy.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
You have to go. Right, I got about a minute.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Okay, So let me ask you because we both covered
the guy. Dick told me in the late eighties. Uh,
how did he what was his success?

Speaker 4 (50:44):
He was too much of a regular guy for fans.
They hated that.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
That's part of it. That's part of that.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
They hated the practice.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And but I think, but so, why did the guys
play for him or hard for him?

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Because he could get them to because they liked him
and he drew that out of it.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Don't you think that's capable here? I do absolutely. The
players are different and things and the environment is different.
I think that's the kind of player that airs on
the draws.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
You talk about wanting to play for him, right. I
talked to Kendrick Reso at the media day Tuesday. He said,
last year, I thought it was the closest team I'd
ever been on. This year is not even close to
to that. The comparison of how close they are, even
better is that this year's team as close as they
can be.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Let's play. I'm ready for the first game.

Speaker 14 (51:36):
Walk.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
What's that water? The water? We gotta go, right, Thanks everybody.
Thanks to see you in a couple of weeks. As
you're out next week, I am out next week. Okay,
thank you, see you next week. Sometimes I don't know
your days anymore. Whenever you need me, okay, Thanks