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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In
today with me is Dave Silver. We have a special
guest too, d What the heck you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
D Oh, I'm just on vacation. I'm just having fun.
And you came here, and I came here.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is your fun.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
This is my version of fun, Steve. I don't get
to do this much in California.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Lord help you.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
I'm on vacation too, permanent forever.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I hate both. I hate both of you. Man, this
is my vacation until I'm one hundred years old.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It's okay. My dad can share in that sentiment. Colored
Doug can share in this sentiment.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
You might even call the day. What's going what's going
on with Dougs in Seattle?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
No, he's in Olympia. He's still working. He doesn't get
off till at least four.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So, okay, we missed Doug in his streets and his
tweets that don't make sense.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Whether chromatically or.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, I get what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just what the hell did he just say?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, now you know where I get my opinions from.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yes, yes, Well, good afternoon. Everybody should be a fun show.
D is with us today, so you know she had
an insider look at the football program and now she's
still with a fan duel. You can see her every
now and again on the fandual sports racing.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Program Fandal TV.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I have a complaint they they switched it here. They
you don't see it as.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Often anymore on do you have direct TV?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
You have a Comcast That's what I have too, So.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
They've they've kind of shortened the vision, the showing of it.
They do it for del Mar, but not for a
lot of the other ones do not.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Have the actual Fandal TV channel.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's what I'm saying. They've kind of moved it. I mean,
it's strange. I have to go to my cable system
and see what the hell happen because now it's very strange.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well that's for another day.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
I don't look in some of those higher numbers, like
don't the two's twelve hundred.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
That might be like three hundred, four hundred.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Level, Yeah, but I know what you're saying because I
haven't done that yet, because yeah, it goes to that eventually,
but it's at two o'clock Del marsh On. But before that,
it's like sometimes it's on, sometimes it's not on.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Interesting. I wonder if it's show. Is it showing like
darts or.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Pool or it's showing like outdoors.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's it's strange, wild wild.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That's for another day.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, well up, So today's show, we have Mike Vader
coming on again.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
We'll talk a little bit about baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He has his Littulson Fantasy Camp beginning tomorrow with some
of the X guys coming into town. So that starts tomorrow,
and then at the four seventeen hour, we're gonna have
one of our regular guests, Eron Torres, from the Eron
Torres Show. You've been on with me with Aaron, Yeah,
covering college football, college basketball. He has an Arizona on
(02:49):
Arizona podcast and website. He's based out of La somewhere,
based based out of La Right.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So you're telling me I should know who he is.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, you do. You may well, you've been gone for
three years now. Yeah, you're old.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm old.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
You're old welcome to our world.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I'm irrelevant, Steven.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
So there's that. So take some calls if you like.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'm at the ship today, loll help us because because
Wald's not in today and.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
There's no Icebergs out there.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, okay, today's where I get to you da one
of those days for me, man. I if I hit
thirty lights, i hit twenty eight of them with reds,
and I'm not a camper when red's for twenty eight
times out of thirty. Card and pedestrians in my watch
were coming across the street with that little yellow bleaking light.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It was crazy.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
No, you know, I was telling you what earlier today,
I was at the Rotary Club downtown Tucson. I was
at a lunch and a couple of people came up
to me. You know, they kind of know who I was.
So they've also said that they've been listening to our show, Yeah,
the show that I've been on occasionally, Yes, which was
a nice compliment.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Then they brought up Ricky Hunley.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yes, he talked about your show that's coming up, the
new show with the Honley Brothers. Right, they put him
up on the screen. Oh, came up and talked and Hey,
we need more advertisers.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It was great.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
He was like a maybe a I don't know, two
minute commercial for the show in front of a couple
of hundred people. So it was good. And I saw
him afterwards and he was, you know, looking forward to
doing that.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No, he's he's a crazy man. Now yeah, now I know.
Now I know why he's an all American guy. Oh yeah,
if it ain't one hundred and thousand percent, he ain't
doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And that's what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
And they were almost like, uh not, what's the right word.
They were using him a lot at the luncheon. I mean, Ricky,
come up here and.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Pull out the wrap, come up here and do because
he's just got that much energy. You would not know
that he's the age he is like, he acts like
he's twenty five.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Very true.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I said to him on the show two weeks ago,
to him and Lamont, and I said, you know, you
have this presence or look that you're tough to come
close to and say, hey, mister honey, can you send
you a how to go? Dude's welcoming, he's very friendly.
The vibe you get from it, oh yeah, because he's
this dude in this town. I mean maybe that's how
it was not anymore. It's I Ricky, what the hell
are you thinking? No, that's funny because I'm Tue. TJ
(05:09):
was at that rotary meeting from that tour.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I'm not sure, but there was a there were a
few people. Yeah, I recognize you. They did plump and
said hello, hey we have I've heard you on Steve
Show and then and then did the whole rickey thing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So it was good. That's funny. You heard by stick
about Ricky. It's like everybody loves but this is how
the show should go. Everybody loves Ricky, you know, like,
you know, come on, what are you doing now?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Well, so it's good he's come back, you know, because
he was gone for a long time. I mean he's
been you know, back in Tucson maybe for the last
decade or so, maybe not even that long. He was
gone for a long time, and I think he wanted
to come back. He finally got a chance, yeah, you know,
to get you know, back on the field a little
bit and get involved.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
So you know, he's stole it.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Well, you wonder where he gets his young energy from.
He was sucking it out of his players. Yeah, because
you were I was there. I was there for Uh,
let's see, he got back at what.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Last year of one? Wasn't the last year it was?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Was it the first note because he was there while
I was there, so it had to have been like
twenty twenty one, which would have been the first year
of fish. So I was there. I saw it all.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Well, that was your first that was your first year,
and that was it.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
No, that was my last season with the team, so
his first year was my last year. And I just
remember thinking, this, dude's really cool, like he's just so
like level headed, like that entire coaching staff was just fantastic,
Like they were just awesome to be around.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
That's good to know him writing that down. Yeah, no,
he had one fan that staff.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now, Yeah no, but he said that to Uh, did
you listen to our show with Lamar and I missed?
So he was talking about He says, you know you're
back and you're comfortable, and yeah, yeah, says dad. When
I interviewed with Jim, he says, you can hire a
guy who's gonna do come here and do really well
and guess what leave, or you're going to have a
guy who's loyal to the program, do really well and
(06:54):
doesn't want to leave him and they didn't give him
the job obviously. But you know, I said, that's a
great point. That's a great point because if he did
really well, guess what. He loves this place. He talks
to Arizona and Tucson up. Of course he's here. Yeah,
but it makes total sense.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Good, that's good.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, and he's involved in community doing stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Again, he's at the Rotary Club. He doesn't have to
be there. It's kind of cool that he's there. You know,
he represents Arizona, represents himself, and everybody comes up and
wants to take pictures and say hello.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Sure, it's good.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Sure, it's funny because we're going to do this project
with him in Lamont. Lamont his brother, and you have
a guy in Lamont who is not afraid to be
in his shadow, in his brother's shadow. He's actually very
proud of his brother. And he played in the NFL
for a few years too, four or five years. But
he has no reservations of being the second dude.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
One of the things he talked about too was he
did a podcast with and I'm not quite sure who
the woman was he was with, but it was called
Life along the Streetcar Line. I think it's about businesses
that are on the Tucson street Car Line. And they
did a pod and they showed a clip that was
basically all we saw, so there wasn't much.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
But he's been doing that kind of stuff as well. Yeah,
it's not you have a.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Related, it's more Ricky related. And he can use his
name and it's good that.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
He can do that.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And he's relatively depends on your age there. I think
he's sixty three, he said, and he's still young, dude,
and now he wants to tick on this project with us.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
With the show.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's just so you say, it's a pregame show. So
every home game, Ricky Lamont and myself will be doing
a show like this before the game, three hours before
the game. And then he can he said, race down,
as he says, and go and kiss baby, shake hands,
you know, be the Ricky that he is and get ready.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
For the game.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Be the ambassador. The word is ambassador.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's who he is, right, yes, and that's I think
that's why they have him around.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean, you can't have enough of those guys. Around
for the THEU of A football team. Those leaders.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah that way too.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, And I mean, you know, maybe the first guy
that really did that around the u of A was
coach Olsen.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I mean really he was an ambassador.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Whenever the U of A needed him to go somewhere
to shake some hands and take some pictures, he would
be on a plane and off he would go.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
I think he'd be the deal closer, he would be.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I don't know if he was really that way, but
you know, when it comes to fundraising, that was more
just let's get him in the room and get donors
around him, and then sure someone else will start working.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Sure in that angle, but he was great at that.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah. No, what better dude to have, right, yeah? Kind
of this. Do you recognize this guy? I know, Oh yeah, yeah,
I saw him.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I saw him in action a couple of different places
in California. He saw him in San Francisco, saw him
in Palm Springs, and there he was.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah you remember shaking his head me. Yeah, I don't
know why, massive.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hands and that ring, that ring, Yeah, I just got
to your hand, hello, go with my hand. In fact,
we're going to have the Ludles in camp this weekend.
We'll have Mike Vader here in about five six minutes
to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
It's a lot of fun, a lot of fun with
these guys. What else is going on? Anything?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I haven't I've been so busy, I haven't seen the
the world of sports today. So you're not going to
have any breaking news. Sorry.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I will come up with something.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
We can come up with something in the breaks.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, you have some things. Are you not going to
be there this well, you're not going to be at
the Travers. No, a big horse racing.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
There's a couple of winning your ends this weekend, the
Paddle'brian's at del Mar. That field just came out. It's
it's gonna be a good field. That'll be good racing
on Saturday for the West Coast.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Give me the top one.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh, I mean you got your two, your two Baffort
runners in their speedboat beach in may Mung. You got
your Santa Nita Derby winner from twenty twenty four in
there in Stronghold. You've got big name Man o' rose,
who's the cow bred taken on open company, who's extremely fast.
I mean, it's a really stacked field. It's it's gonna
be a good race, and then you got the Travers
(10:39):
this weekend up at Saratoga and Sovereign. He's probably going
to go off at about one to nine. It's a
five horse field. Magnitude is going to be out front
setting the speed. And he won the Risen Star I
believe it was at Fairgrounds before being sidelined with a
short issue. He came back in the Iowa Derby at
Prairie Meadows and ran off the screen by you can
you can.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Stop there, You don't.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You're confusing the hell out of the listeners know what
you're talking about. Only two people though, and that's I'm
one of them.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well that's okay, but yeah, yeah, you know. And so
you said Sovereignty probably the horse.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Of the year, for he's definitely I think three year
old of the year the way he's going, just because
he's beat journalism twice so far. So unless journalism was
to run off the screen at Breeders Cup and beat sovereignty,
that's the only way he wins through you.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Well, let me say this because I because I love
my listeners. Two things have killed journalism this year and
one of them was sovereignty.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yes, you can figure out the rest.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I have to tell you off the air, apparently, I
think I know what you're talking about. Going down that road.
It's why I love my listeners, so I won't say
anything but interesting. So big horse racing weekend, huge college
weekend with the first game starting right.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Golf weekend to a champions tell me, okay, you know
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Speaker 2 (11:48):
Okay, is the guy who won last week Scottish Scheffler
and has been fantastic number one seed or whatever.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I don't have seeds, but he's the number one guy again.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, he's been fantastic. Anything else baseball, we'll talk
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know he knows a little about all that.
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This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
Well getting back at baseball, Helly.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Welcome back, Welcome back to ie on the ball here
Fox Sports for fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver.
We got d with us this afternoon and now we
have Mike Vader.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Mike, how are you doing good?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
We're doing fine, got you at the last minute. Thanks
for coming on. You have a big weekend.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I think I do.
Speaker 13 (17:03):
It's it's you know, we have the Little Olson Fantasy
Basketball Camp starting tomorrow night with a dinner h followed
by games on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and toura McHale
and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah. Yeah, And some of the usual suspects are coming
back into town.
Speaker 13 (17:22):
They are, uh, you know, it's just you know, Pete
Williams always looks forward to it, Bennan Davidson, the same thing. Uh,
you know, Dinah Harris, Matt ne Olbach, Reggie Gary, uh
Felicity Willis. This year, two new ones, aj Bramlett and
Sealem stan Omar are going to be with us at
the camp.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
So that's that's exciting, two new old ones because they've
been here before.
Speaker 13 (17:44):
A new old ones. Correct.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, Well the guy was Selim. You know, did you
have to prepare any special food?
Speaker 13 (17:51):
Well, I've been working on that most of the day
for this. People don't know he's a strict vegan. We
have our dinner tomorrow night at Westward Look. Literally, he
wanted to talk to the chef, and his wife hooked
up with the chef. They talked, they figured out what
to do. Then the former U of a guy is
(18:15):
also good breakfast at Westward Look. They had to talk
about breakfast and now I'm still trying to figure out
what to do for lunch on Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, that's the le a good guy. I was trying
to get him on the show yesterday but did not
get a response. So I'll see him tomorrow and giving
grief about that. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 13 (18:33):
You have to Yeah, but yeah, it's obviously he's a
big name, and you know it hasn't been here since
I think early when we first started doing it. Yeah,
in like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, somewhere in there. So
it's good to get him back.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah, no question. School continue to talk about that cinement.
But you're probably pretty excited and you did hinto this
maybe two weeks ago when you were online about the
Arizona football.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 13 (19:06):
Are you talking about the new coming.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah, the the fallball thing, fall league, fague and baseball.
Speaker 13 (19:13):
Team which I hate that name, but whatever. Uh. No,
they I've been watching. They've been signing some decent players. Uh.
And I think I think they're going to be competitive.
I mean, aw Lahore is where they're coming from, has
been a competitive team and and they understand the importance
of putting a good team on the on the field
(19:35):
this year, and I'm feeling that this team is going
to be very competitive.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, you're talking about the Mexican Baseball League. I was
throwing the fall ball. We'll talk about the fall thing later.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
I think he's he was referring, I think to that
triple header that's coming with the Airs in a fall league.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Oh, come on, Steve, you got to make yourself No,
you you jumped in front of me there, senor you over.
Speaker 13 (19:54):
So you're talking about the Arizona Fall League, right, and
they're gonna have six, six teams coming, uh, three games
all on a Saturday. Do you guys have to date
in front of you.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
No, it's just it's in October.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
October.
Speaker 13 (20:12):
Yeah, it's like the twelfth, after the Fiesta and before
the start of the Tucson baseball team, and it's not
a Saturday. But for the people that don't know anything
about the Arizona Fall League, Uh, these are the top
prospects in Major League Baseball. And so there's gonna be
some guys that are pretty big names here. I mean
(20:33):
a Bobby Wit has played in the in the Fall League,
and probably quite a few more guys that have played
in the Fall League. So if people could handle three games,
I think they're gonna see great baseball.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
It's gonna be October eleventh.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
And I mean, you know, Mike, we go all the
way back to when Michael Jordan was in the Arizona.
Speaker 13 (20:53):
Ironically, remember it's funny, uh when when there was a
press conference for the Mexican Baseball So the girl from
Major League Baseball was here and they didn't announce it
that day, and she said, oh, can you give me
a little more information about you know, what's going on
because we had the halloweens too, and uh and and
so she was talking about the Jordan games. And the
(21:16):
Jordan game, I believe to this day is still the
largest crowd in the history of the Arizona Falling, I
mean completely sold out.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Uh.
Speaker 13 (21:25):
Day days in advance, so it was it was pretty exciting.
I mean, it was one of the most interesting sporting
events I've ever done because of the magnitude of people
wanting to see Michael Jordans. I mean they're pushing on
the screen to get near the batting cages and and
and to see him, and they wanted to touch the
(21:46):
bus he was on and crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, and you forget well, at least I did for
a moment, until I didn't a while back to Terry
Francona was his manager one point in his career.
Speaker 13 (22:00):
And it's funny, even with the new baseball team, the
Mexican team, I got a message through somebody that that
Terry was asking about possibly getting a few Cincinnai Reds
players on the on the Mexican Winter League team. So
it's funny how things always work out.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
How is that going to be a relationship that they
can parlay like that where they can get current you know,
MLB minor leaguers or or whatever to play for a
Mexican team over the winters.
Speaker 13 (22:28):
It won't be. It won't be a specific relationship like
a minor league team, So the the owners of the
team will just they're only allowed to bring nine foreign players.
A foreign player is not only American players, but it
could be somebody from Cuba or Venezuela, you know, something
(22:51):
like that. So if they didn't, it would be unofficial.
Any any deal that would get done, But it's all
going to be based on need because they have a
current roster and and so the question then becomes, where
are there holes in that roster that that need to
be filled? Uh And it would probably be uh a
(23:13):
double a triple A type player. Uh So, I haven't
talked to them for a while, so I'm anxious to
see if they were able to work anything out.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
What does this all mean?
Speaker 13 (23:22):
Though?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
You have almost we have we have three team, three
organizations coming into town. Tucson has said they've been begging
for baseball.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
What does it all mean?
Speaker 13 (23:31):
Fix organizations? Uh? In the Fall League has three games
and and and it basically represents every major league team
because there's like six seven teams represented on each Fall
League team. Uh So, no, so that you know they
uh you know, you've got the Mexican Baseball Fiesta that'll
(23:53):
be for four days. Then you've got the new team.
Uh So, No, we're not We're not Dorman down here,
that's for sure. I mean, I'm looking on your note
that I see you had Blake eager On. I mean,
he's been a big part of trying to get a
lot of that done. But they there's just you know,
I think people want to come to Tucson. The question
(24:16):
is can they accommodate everybody. I mean I earlier a
year ago, I just happened to be there. I don't
know why I was a Keno, but I saw that
there was a Fantasy baseball camp and it was the
Chicago Cubs. Really, I think, you guys know I'm a
big Cup fan, so I just walk over there. Who's there,
(24:39):
Hall of Famer Fergie Jenkins, So that was pretty neat.
And some of the other guys that I knew growing up.
So it's there's a lot of stuff going on people.
It's the worst told secret that the Keno Sports Complex
is a ghost town. That's just not the case.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
No, When we went there for the WBC, it was fantastic.
It looked great for you well.
Speaker 13 (25:04):
And then I just recently I was involved in the
in the j C. C. Mccomi Games, yea, and they
had baseball there. They had we had three on three,
uh fifteen under and seventeen under at Keno North. There
was flag football, there was soccer, so.
Speaker 14 (25:25):
There was a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 13 (25:26):
And by the way, that was a fantastic event school.
They brought over a thousand kids Jewish teenagers to Tucson,
uh and and it really was very well received and
very successful. I heard the economic impact was well over
four million dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Oh well, well, I was gonna ask you you you
used the word accommodate. What do you mean by that?
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Well, you gotta have enough, don't forget.
Speaker 13 (25:52):
Both sides of the of the complex are not baseball
anymore there. It's only the south side and so you
got you got the quad and some extra fields there.
But on the north side that's all soccer. Yeah, there's
no baseball there whatsoever. Uh So it's just it's just
how do you you know? And I've talked to Sarah Horrorbath.
(26:15):
If you have not had her, honest a guest, I
think she'd be a great guest.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
Yeah, but she Uh, they're filling updates for everything.
Speaker 13 (26:23):
I mean, it's it's it's wild with what they've got
going on.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
It's good. I mean, I'm looking forward. I mean it's
a good variety. It's nice to see that we're trying
to itch ourselves. We're trying to do, I don't know,
work our way back into some baseball. I mean, we've
talked about this for years, Mike, what what do you think?
I mean in five years, are we going to have
something maybe in Marana or you know, some springs training
somewhere in Pima County.
Speaker 13 (26:50):
I can give you a political answer, will I give
you an honest answer, And the answer is I don't
know how. I don't I don't know where they're going
to come up with the funding to create a new complex.
I think it'd be great if they did. And if
you're asking me if there's gonna be another minor league team,
(27:10):
I almost have the same answer. I mean, because it
takes a lot of money, over twenty million dollars for
a Triple A team right now. So the question would be,
are you going to bring an existing team in and
to me, that's not gonna work Triple A at at
Keino Stadium, or are you gonna have find local investors
(27:32):
to buy a team at that big price tag and
then and then keep your fingers crossed that there might
be a new facility, but those things don't pop up overnight.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Let me ask you because when I have Blake here
once a week, we go into the city and then
how much it's improved and some of the things that
it needs to needs to happen to become a better
city sports point, when you were your GM in your
GM duty here, you came here specifically to duson.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Was it the heat?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Was it the location?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Who were the dying factors that that you know, kind
of eventually hurt attendance and things like that.
Speaker 13 (28:08):
I'm going to answer that, but I'm also going I
want to hear Dave's opinions. And it was a long
time UH sportscaster for Kagun during a lot of those years.
Speaker 14 (28:17):
So before I before I answered, did Blake think that
there could be a.
Speaker 13 (28:22):
Spring training team here someday?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Jewet, I think we haven't.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
I have not asked him that, Okay, but why well
and Dave pipe in on this.
Speaker 14 (28:36):
High Corbett Field.
Speaker 13 (28:39):
Was great. People wanted to go there. It was in
the middle of town. There was life, there was restaurants,
there was bars, there was a lot of stuff. Then
the team moves to Tucson Electric Park in whatever that
year was, right, year was in ninety nine, okay ninety eight,
(29:02):
and it was it was fine for a spring training
facility because it was during the day, but we found
so we had the sidewinders. In my opinion, people didn't
want to go to the south side, which I think
is unfair. Yeah, because if they're worried about the crime,
we have more crime around High Corporate Field than we
ever had around two Solid to Park because it was
(29:24):
such a big parking lot. But it just didn't It
lost its charm, and in my mind, that was the
biggest deterrent is that there was no longer something special
to go to. I mean, wherever I go, Dave, you
probably hear the same thing. Oh my god, we love
going to Toreals games. You never heard anybody say they
(29:47):
love going to sidewinds.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, that's funny you say that,
but that's true. That's true. There definitely was.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
There was the history.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
I mean, you know, all the stuff that happened at
that stadium through from the earth of them with the
nineteen forties, you know, all the way to I'm over
fifty years of baseball generations grew up taking their kids
and there was something special about midtown the midtown, right.
Speaker 13 (30:09):
I mean, people say, oh, my grandpa brought me to
the games, and.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
What about what about the heat?
Speaker 13 (30:16):
I don't buy it. And again I want to hear
Dave's opinion on that. We at High Corbett. I don't
know why this is. The temperature was a little left
because of you know, we're in the middle of town.
There wasn't as much concrete. David. If you remember, we
had a temperature unit on the scoreboard. Very very rarely
(30:39):
did we ever start a game over one hundred degrees
and we played all night games a kino.
Speaker 14 (30:46):
You just, I don't know, it just felt hotter.
Speaker 13 (30:50):
Would you agree with that day?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
I would agree.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I mean you're kind of wide open space out there.
You know, you did feel like you were in the
middle of a neighborhood at High Corbett where it was
a little bit of a cooler feel. Again, you know,
I think a lot of people, it just depends on
who you're trying to get. A lot of people maybe
have moved to Tucson that are new, they're not used
to the summer heat. You know, I'm not going out
in that stuff. It's one hundred degrees. You know, it's
(31:14):
six o'clock now.
Speaker 13 (31:15):
I will tell you when we were the Toros and
we went up to Phoenix to play the Phoenix Giants
or whatever they were, you know, the Scottsdale team, it
was oppressive. You go to the games up there, Oh
my god, I come. We had a home game like
(31:36):
the night before at High Corbett and we go there
the next day and I'm dripping sweat.
Speaker 14 (31:42):
It's just much much different. And it's nothing cool down
as much.
Speaker 13 (31:47):
At night up there.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Sure, how was the attendance up there?
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Uh? There? All right? I mean they did okay, not
as good as the Toros, uh, but they were fine.
And then then they Diamondbacks came along and that pushed
them out of town, right uh.
Speaker 14 (32:03):
And you know, so it's just I don't know, it
just it just was so so much different.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
That was maybe another excuse now that I'm thinking back,
you know, to the early two thousands, that you know what,
we've got a major league team up there now, and
you know, how much do we need to support the
team in Tucson. And I think that kind of carried
over with some fans who thought, well, you know, I'd
rather sit home and watch.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
A team, watch a game on TV, or go up
or go up to a game and you can sit inside.
Speaker 13 (32:28):
The truth is whether, oh, in the nineties, we're watching
the Chicago Cubs in the Atlanta Breaks, right, yeah, I
mean that. I mean that was much better baseball in
the Arizona Diamondbacks at the time.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Well, let me ask you, because you did work for
the Diamondbacks for you know, a year or two or
whatever years.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Uh, they had the bus, right, they had the bus.
What what kind of impact? What kind of impact was?
Speaker 11 (32:55):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (32:55):
My god?
Speaker 14 (32:56):
Well, you know, I was in charge of Southern Arizona
and when.
Speaker 13 (33:00):
The Cubs are the Dodgers or some of the big
teams to play on the weekends, we had five six
buses full of people that meet up with the Foothills
Mall on a normal weekend. Without a star team.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
We still had one or two buses.
Speaker 13 (33:16):
And it was for like two three years. Then all
of a sudden, the Diamondbacks stopped doing it. Uh, you know,
they didn't want to represent them in Southern Arizona anymore.
And it's to me, you turn your back on a
million people when you do that stuff. But that's you know.
You guys know me. I'm not the most non opinionated person.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh really, I didn't know. Yeah, what about the Indoor
Football League championship here?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
That's a good gift too, It's.
Speaker 13 (33:49):
A great get. But does anybody know the games this weekend?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's a good question. Yeah, you know, you're right. You're
not the first person to tell me this. I know
we've put it a lot on the show with guests
and stuff, but no, I hear you. You're not alone
would say that.
Speaker 14 (34:01):
I mean, Dave, did you know there was the championship
game here this week?
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Because I come in and do the show, so honestly,
I mean, you know, no, there has I mean there's
been some commercials.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I've seen some advertising, but not much.
Speaker 13 (34:14):
The league got killed when I don't know if I
could say this word, but when the Arizona Rattlers got
screwed by a call at.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
The end of the game, Yes that they should have won.
Speaker 13 (34:24):
Yes, I don't know if you guys even read that story.
It was what I've seen. And then then the league
president comes out there all we made a mistake.
Speaker 14 (34:32):
It's the difference between the Arizona Rattlers.
Speaker 13 (34:35):
Advancing and not advancing and if you would have had
the Rattlers in the game this weekend, they'd have.
Speaker 14 (34:41):
Brought a lot of fans because it would have been
the championship.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Did you see the postgame luck postgame press conference?
Speaker 13 (34:48):
Yeah, Kevin wasn't too happy.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Got it was a classic? It was classic.
Speaker 13 (34:53):
No he let's just say he was not too happy.
But right now, you guys kind of know, tell me
who's playing in the game.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Isn't Green Bay coming Green Bay in Vegas?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Vegas and Laura Jade and.
Speaker 13 (35:09):
Laura the Oh that's right, I did. I did. But
you think that that'd be more of a story about
Jade and de Laura coming back here? Sure, obviously, I
hope it does well. I mean I don't I don't
want people to get the wrong idea. But it's hard.
I mean it's hard. You know. That's that's the hardest
(35:31):
thing to me over the years, and you guys have
both been involved, and I apologize your other hosts and
I'm kind of ignoring her, but uh, it's okay. You
can chime in the Arizona Bowl. As a person who's
running sports teams for a long time, that was a
tough job because you're bringing in two teams that people
(35:54):
don't know anything about. And to the credit of the
Arizona Bowl, over the last few years, they've done a
really good job and and and they've definitely picked things up.
But in the early years that was hard, you know,
when you're bringing in teams that nobody knew and we
have a impact twelve team. Uh gosh to then't translate,
(36:16):
but to Kim and Dare and Ali Farhang and and
those guys, I think they've really done a nice job
of stepping nothing up, right.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Okay, Well, Mike, enjoy the weekend. We'll see you tomorrow
and uh be rested.
Speaker 13 (36:32):
Dave, I'll see you in a few weeks to copy here,
I'll sell soul.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
Okay, looking forward to that too.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Do you guys do retire that guy?
Speaker 13 (36:41):
I believe Dave is retired. With all the things I
have going on, I will not word will not come
out of my mouth that word.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Okay, Well, you guys will retire.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
But yeah, I'm as busy as ever for sure.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
But he doesn't miss still but laugh.
Speaker 13 (37:00):
I'm on three different nonprofit boards through up whish out,
did share Huff, so I'm not bored. So I don't
want anybody crying little tears for me? Oh my god,
what's that poor guy going to do?
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Same same thing? It's great, Toucsund's great. You can if
you want to participate. There's so many things you can. Lune,
that's great. Volunteer, thanks man.
Speaker 13 (37:21):
Great, see them all right, dear guys, talk thanks.
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Are you doing I'm good, I'm happy to be back.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
You just visiting.
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I'm just visiting. I'm here on some much needed brain
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Fantastic. That's great, great, great. Dave knows that business.
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He was director of the School of Journalism. By the way,
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I did see that newsletter. I'm going to be interested
to see. Not to be a pessimist, but how long
this one sticks around.
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For I was part of the search committee for this.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Then I would hope she sticks around for a little while.
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We're going to get together soon. But she's a big
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be maybe a little bit of a different focus within
that department.
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That's good.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
She's from Iowa State, She's a Midwesterner. Okay, I think
she grew up in West Virginia. So she's got all
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to the So it's going to be fun to see
how she does. She's been here for a while, but
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and going to orientations and things like that.
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But no, I think that's that's that's great because definitely
when I was going through, like sports was definitely on
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wanting to help people pursue that. We had a couple
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students need to dictate a little bit what.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
They need and like the students that are coming in,
many of their sports fans, many want to get into
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aff Arizona can can offer that they'll keep.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Let me tell you the School of Crown Kit has
about fifteen hundred just one to do that just sports,
huge sports. Wow, it's huge, it's huge. Can they find jobs?
That's well, that's another. Are they keeping track of that?
I'm sure, I'm not too sure. And we know that
there's few jobs, very very fine. Well my girl here,
you know you got lucky and you're good.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
You know, I have said it right along. It's about
networking and introducing yourself to people and who you know
and who they know, and who you know that they
know that they know you.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
You when I interviewed you just randomly, what three four
years ago, whatever, it was what caught my eye, Horsey
you like horse, tell me more? Yeah, And that's what
that's all we.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Talked about for those fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
And we said come on in, we'll talk. And you
did great here and then we got your job in
del Mar and then you know, you're on your rown.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
And then we went off the FANDLE.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Back in my day, I used to beg for interns.
It was weird.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
I was like, where are they?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
I knew how important it was for me to get
an internship in my senior car right.
Speaker 5 (44:49):
Never would have been in the business without that.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I think that's so interesting because I feel like there's
definitely been a switch just because we have people outside
of FANDLE that like have people that know people inside.
They're like, hey, when and I get an internship, and
we we just don't really offer them anymore. And I
think that's just wild. I'm like, how do you get
in without getting the foot in the door.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Well, I paid Dave knows this better than anyone because
he's here and he's watching me go through this.
Speaker 13 (45:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Uh, I'm like the weekend at Bernie's guy, and my
interns are the ones that are carrying, you know, because
they know.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
This stuff and it's it's easy. They picked it up
in two days and putting let's go, which is great.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
I remember that you were one of them. I was
one of them, and a lot of.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
You guys are good. You know, will as much as
you guys fought.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
We just had several differences of opinions.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Okay, Sam, where you were here for Sammy? Sammy's up
in Phoenix. He's within there for the under sam sam
was great. He's up and doing radio up in Phoenix now.
And so who's the guy that's is Kevin?
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Kevin's doing his PhD.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
That's good you had him on the show. I've been
here a few for a few of those.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Yeah, so you's been a few that come through this,
this place. I'm trying to find it.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
High level of success right over here.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, well it's for the same reason day we gotta come.
They got to come in and this is you learn
it and you go. You know, you know, sometimes they
just go to school and says, where's my job?
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Well, that's the generation though they're expecting things just to
be handed to them. I deal with that my job
of new people that come in and they just want
to cry and moan about well, why haven't I gotten
a promotion yet or a bonus and why am I
not moving on to the next level. I've been here
for six months and I'm like, that's not how this works.
Like you have to grind and pay your dues like
everybody else.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, no question, Hey, Dave, you were bringing up some
stuff about MLB. Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Now we have time. We have time.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
We've got five minutes at least for now. We can
always bring it back on the other side of this segment.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Now.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
It's just that there's gonna be a lot of changes
to our viewing habits when it comes to watching baseball
starting next year, they're going to be shifting off everything around. Basically,
Apple is getting out of the business. Apple had been
doing some Friday night games. Hardly anybody can get those games.
They're not watching that. They're going away. NBC is really
coming in strong.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
I mean they used to have the end you know,
the Game of the Week back in the day where
they were on organ and all these guys.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
Yeah, I mean Kirk gall and that that group. But
now they're coming back.
Speaker 13 (47:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
Can we get Tony Kupack to come back. He's got
to be in his nineties. Is he's alive?
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (47:10):
I think anyway, NBC is gonna get involved. They're gonna
be doing Fridays, They're going to be doing Sundays.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
What do you think the reasons they're doing all this
stuff money that they're gonna be paid.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Yeah, But it seems like it's all of a sudden.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
It's just kind of being spread around, and then there's
different ways it's going to be delivered. The ESPN's got
a direct consumer app that's that's starting tomorrow as a
matter of fact, which you part of that.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
No, I haven't done that one yet. I've got a
ESPN Plus.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
I don't know if I need it, the SPN direct
to consumer, but not quite sure what it's going to
have that I really need to watch.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
If you were not retired, would you have it because
of time? You have it because you're because I have
time to watch it.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
I mean, let's let's see what's on that app, and
then we can all decide as a group whether it's
not whether it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
See.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
And I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
I wouldn't spend time looking at you know, I'll watch
it randomly if it's a good game.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
But you know, well, I mean look at the UFA
games are on the ESPN Plus. So it's kind of
become a thing. If you're an Arizona fan, you have
to have half the season is going to be on there, right,
I think that's like ten bucks in it it's pretty cheap. Yeah,
if you're a fan, you've got to get it right. Yeah,
I mean, you know we've talked about this before, but
you know, basketball is really switching up things next year
with Amazon getting involved and also NBC along with ESPN,
(48:25):
but no more TNT. So there's going to be you know, again,
different different viewing situations for that sport, big time.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
Wow, Times are changing. Times are changing, but do you
know they always.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Change, They're always changed. They changed a ton since you
know we started this business.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
Sure, and football's contracts, I think it comes up in
twenty twenty nine, I want to say, so you know,
that's that's the big one.
Speaker 5 (48:47):
Wherever football decides to go and who wants to stay
and you.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Know, well, I mean these current new deals are going
to set the stage for that, depending on who has
money left over to spend or respend in twenty twenty nine,
or if they're already forcing everyone to go to a
streaming app, then they're just gonna keep getting those games.
That's that's the way it's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
I mean, I'm you know, our generation, I'm good. I'm
good with the streaming. I can do it. But it
is kind of confused.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
It's it's difficult when you're trying to watch a couple
of games simultaneously. One games, you know, on literary on cable,
and then you want to go to the streamer and
you're back and forth. Yeah, it's not as easy as
just flicking with your remote on cable, right, So that's
taking a while to get used to.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
But and that's for the diehards too. I mean you've
got to be a really to be doing that.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
Well, you know how it gets like like the months
of like April and October, when there's like you know,
NBA Statey Cup Baseball starting March, Madness is wrapping up.
I mean there's some crazy times of television.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, okay, we'll see. We'll see what horse racing.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Everything comes to ahead in March in April.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Yeah, well there is because they're getting ready for that
der Derby.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
You get ready for the Derby and the UK.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah you mentioned a horse just well quick because we
so it has local ties speedboat.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Speedboat beach, Yes, racing in the pad O'Brien to Saturday.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
My good buddies.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
Two of the three my good buddies, mister Whiteman and
mister Watson owned that horse. They've had some great horses.
Why is it called the padd O'Brien? Is it named
after it?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
It's named after a horse.
Speaker 4 (50:20):
Yeah, most of these things are horses.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
They're main named after horses or trainers. Okay, it's a
grade too, it's a winning you're in for the breeder's cap,
So anyone that doesn't know the horse that wins this race.
They are entry fees, travel fees, all of that is
paid in full to go to del Mar. So a
lot of these horses are already based in California, but
their entry fee to get into the dirt mile is
(50:43):
already paid and taken care for. So these horses have
an automatic spot in the starting gate on November first, with.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
The with the prize about one hundred to two hundred thousand,
probably maybe more than that for the dirt mile.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
Grede two free too.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Oh, for this is a two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars purse, seven furlong, so they' running seven eighths of
a mile.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
Two year olds, right, No, this is for three year
olds and now old older horses.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
So Speedboat Beach is out of the he runs out
of the two hole. There's nine horses total.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
What his own morning line.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
They don't have the morning line yet, but if I
had to guess, he's somewhere in the three to one
seventy two range. I mean, his last start wasn't great
at Churchill, Like, he just he ran very poorly.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Some of my future money's going to come from there
on them.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
So hey, let's take a break, come back in five
minutes and then we're not gonna have breaking news unless
we want to talk about random stuff like we're just
doing now, and then we're going to have Aaron Torres
about four seventeen