Hour 1- August 25, Troy Hutchison

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Basically you are Ray's got a new schedule? Ray, you
got no schedule? Well maybe we kind of secrets a
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Well I'm not Ray, but that's the secret.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Let's get off the good Monday here right not right now?
So the same songs on this show. Thank God, that's
giving me, keeping me busy. You gonna start working for.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Me next week? I guess so in the real world
if you say so, yeah, yeah, yeah, who you are? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I need somester. It's game week, Steve, Game Week, Jersey
on Who's twenty one? I don't know who is just.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Got it Antoine Cason days until Arizona football. That's what
I've twitched one case six? Was it six? Number five?
Number five? Nice? That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's yeah, Well, welcome to the show, guys. It is football.
We could point to point that out, Jue, why didn't
have done? Uh So we'll talk a lot about it.
In the first hour. We have Troy, who's a regular.
I think he might be not not in tomorrow. I
got a product tomorrow's show, but he's gonna be on

(01:43):
A three seventeen talk about what's going on. In the
first week. There was a press conference. We might play
some clips on that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't know. Did you did they put desiree on YouTube?
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
We'll check for that because because sorry to say that,
Brenda didn't have much to say. I mean, he says,
but he doesn't say makes any sense. Yeah, no, it
makes sense. It's a lot of It's a lot it's
gonna say. It's a lot of what he's been repeating
for the last month, last year, since since the A
issue game. Right, we got to get better, which we
think we've gotten better, and now it's time to show you.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, well, I mean at least he's had a chance
down to see the opponent too, which.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Is going to be a big probably a big part
of it's with the Hawaii Kansas day. I would say
he saw opponents on Saturday. Okay, good, So we'll either
go to that or if Desre has some stups because
she came out with some stuff right maybe at the
podium or is she good to the podium, I'm not sure, okay,
because they had some news about some things coming out. Uh,
and then at four seventeen, we're going to get ahold

(02:36):
of Jay, get him out of bed, and have him
on talking about what the heck happened on Saturday, good
and bad if he does go on the bad side.
You were there, Dave at the indoor game. We were,
I was there, and one was there. Just real quick,
just your quick thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean, it was it was kind of what I expected.
It was.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
I wish maybe a few more people, but you know,
I think they did a pretty good job just kind
of putting on a show. There was a lot of
you know, razzle dazzle, and every time there was a timeout,
there was some goofy promotion and the scoreboard had some stuff.
I mean, they tried. You know, it's amazing that that
many people did turn out to see, you know, a
Green Bay Las Vegas matchup. There was no no alliance
to any of the teams. Had had the Tucson team

(03:18):
or Phoenix team been in it, I'm sure they would
have got more people.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Sure, I don't know. It was.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
It was okay, and you know, they got a three
year plan and I hope next year is bigger and better.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm hoping the do you come back? Same thing,
same thing. We went to the pregame show, right, yeah,
and we were talking, we're hoping that this is an
indication of what's going to happen inside the room, and
it kind of was.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was twenty seven hundred. Is that what you said?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You saw saw a number like Okay, they were hoping
for obviously four thousand, five thousand, just to make it
look good the TV. When I got home, I left
after the third quarter and I got home and I
was watching it and said, oh god, they're showing the
stands and it wasn't that good. But the game itself
was fantastic. Testing Yeah, if you're an offensive person, right,

(04:03):
if you love defense, it was not your game until
the end, until the endtilntil the last five seconds, right,
and then the hometown hero gets the MVP. Yeah, I
don't think it was a surprise. No, he did have
a great game. But the other team, Green Bay, I
thought was a lot better, I should say a lot
better better. Yes, he just happened to not score in
that final possession.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I don't did you again? Not much defense and no
no punts. I don't think everybody basically can you punt
in that league? I don't even I think you just
attempt to fil goal. Yeah, I mean everything was just
kind of you know, whoever had the balls scored and
last play of the game is sto.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's how it was.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
There was a defensive stop, there was a pass interference
called in the end zone. I think it was on
a fourth down. But and then Vegas ends up going
in scores. But other than that, it was it was
all offense. Sixty four sixty one believe yeah. Yeah, and
then what I didn't know. It tells you how many
times I've gone and shame on me is the kick
the kickoff that was a field good but it was

(05:00):
two point Yeah, what don't they I'm sure they go
for it all the time, but they look like they did.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
That was the only one that did it though. I mean,
of all the attempts.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Green Bay did it once they made it through Vegas,
did a lot of almost on site kick let it,
let it bounce, let it bounce high and now and
give your team the chance to get down to the field.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, it was interesting.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean just just watching it from the way that
some of the players were run, and they did a
little bit of razzle dazzle here and there on offense,
guys crossing behind each other before the balls even snapped.
And of course those guys that get to take off
before the ball is snapped.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's just a different game.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
But the naked eye and you had a better venue
or advantage or the view of it because you were
right in the middle and we were kind of on
the side. How are they not going off sides every time?
They not every time A lot of the times they're
allowed to go. I think I'm not sure, honestly, But
you know what I'm saying. I don't get that. I
don't get the two players going in motion getting ahead

(05:59):
start run on defense.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
But yeah, it was it was interesting. It was fun.
To watch. I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Before, except that you'd see God, I'd swear that he
was over the linehood by the time.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, they do that in the Canadian Football League, if
you remember.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
They they let a guy you know, kind of take off,
but he has to I think it has to. The
ball has to snap before he gets to the line
of scrimmage. So but but somebody is moving in Canada
like that, but not two guys like like these guys do.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, it was exciting. The game itself was pretty good.
You know, there's the over under. It was ninety three,
and we talked about it right on Friday. Yeah, and
that was by the.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Third quarter, yeah, third and maybe even halftime. I think
it was about eighty something in the halftime eighty something. Yeah,
and they said, oh, we should have been the over. Yeah,
one hundred and twenty five. Yeah. But yeah, it was good.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Let's see how I'm gonna see what they do to improve,
you know, I mean the city needs to get behind
a little bit more businesses.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I don't know they they did, I mean visits Tucson
and and Real put a lot of money into it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I think that people just found out or either they're
gonna go or they're not gonna go, right, But a
lot of people just found out too late. And then Tucson,
uh Bill, the guy who called me two years ago,
don't talk about fans two sons a walk up place.
If you have something to go, you're not gonna go.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
How much publicity did they do you know, to the media,
did they have anything like two weeks ago or something?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
No where, Maybe there could be some pre stories.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
That's kind of how the better the better events would work,
especially like the golf tournament for example. They used to
always have like a you know something even like a
month in advance, bring in the last champion or somebody, just.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Just some type of interest. Yeah, yeah, no, I don't
think they did that. Maybe think about that next year.
There's so many our guys, you guys can do it. Yeah,
they could. Well, we try to do it here, try
to do our best.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, we have how many guests? When I was here
last week, we had like three or four players coaches.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was fun.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It was fun to touch with Dolaura and all those guys.
But you can only do so much. If you're not
going to go, they're not going to go. You can't
convince them.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's good. You know, a lot of little cheerleader girls
and stuff for there. I mean there was a lot
of football football, football players like football.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, so they tried, they tried. We'll talk about more
about it with Jay to see what the post game
evaluation is from the from the administration. Yeah, Edmins, Okay,
big game on Saturday. And by the way, I just
plugged my show with the Hunley Brothers. The Huntley Huddle
will begin at four o'clock and go to five and then.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
We'll race to the game.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So that's gonna be a new show, pregame show with
the Hunley's Ricky and Lamont beginning at four o'clock pregame.
So Hawaii on this Yes, the Rainbow Warriors, the Rainbow Warriors,
and they pulled it off. They pulled it off with
the half of a quarterback. Almost was he he was
on his last legs. Literally, I heard, I heard, I
heard it was. It looked gross. The injury really nothing

(08:42):
dislocated or popped off. It was just kind of a
he got folded the wrong way and had to limp
the rest of the way to the finish line.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Ed he got there.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
He's a little guy and the kicker. The story is
about the kicker I did.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I did. He learned how to kick off of YouTube videos.
He's from Japan, right.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I think he was more nervous to talk to the
press afterwards then he was kicking that field goal.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's funny, that's funny. And he did right, yeah, yeah,
he hit the hit the game winner.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I mean a lot of ties with with with the
coaching staff here and the history of the UVA has
had with Hawaii, with Dick Tomy and with Brent And
he talked a lot about that today, did he Yeah? Yeah,
And you know, it's a great story. Last week about
Colt Brennan. I saw the nephew who played there and
played in the NFL and unfortunately passed away very young.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
But it's a good story.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Do you guys remember do you remember when when Hawaii
played here the anniversary year of Pearl Harbor?

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
M Yeah? Yeah, I think that was sixteen, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
They brought those specially like seventy fifth anniversary of So yeah,
that was pretty pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I didn't read that story now, and I have to
go see the read it. The Colt Brennan story, that
was good. Cult is what too. I think he's his nephew. Okay, yeah,
that year under June Jones, I think it was. I
think they were fantastic. They through the ball thousands of
thousands of times.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Was it was interesting?

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Actually they might have been cousins now that I think
about it, because it was old Brad.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Brad Brannan's talking is interviewed in the story as well.
My bad on that. But yeah, there, it's a good story.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
You'll have to to read justin spears product. Okay, what
else do you got one? I didn't get to mention
this with the Laura and the Nighthawks, but obviously jet
Fish was there.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, that was spread.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Around on social media, uh, supporting his former quarterback one
of his one of his.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
That was nice. That was nice of him, It.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Really was, especially when you have your first game of
the year that the next week and a week less
than a week.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
But then afterwards too, no Fida coming in celebrating with DeLaura.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh nice. That was nice. City.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
The whole family was there for de Laura and they
recognized no right away and they all celebrated together.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's pretty cool to see. Did you did you go
to the press covers.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
It was on the field. It was it was whoever
you can find that that wasn't that was willing.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
To talk to you. Who talk to DeLaura? Did you
the CBS network obviously did the TV station, but locally
as Justin and everybody was there.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, it was it was Hopper okay, just guys like that,
just very quick. Yeah, because there was no there wasn't
anything formal. It was kind of if you can get
if you can get him after the game, yeah, and
he wants to talk, Yeah, you can try, okay, because
I saw I saw Did you watch it when you
got home?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I did? Was it over yet?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I saw the end? Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, So that was that was pretty cool. The players
that they stopped him were fantastic. Yeah, and the play
the game to me, well those two, the last two
because the guy he tripped up and he fell right
short of it, and and then you're think, you know, man,
what if they turn it and say that he did
cross because there was some doubt at least in my mind.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, I mean both teams were celebrating at different times
in five minute period.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Right right, and then they stopped him, and I do
you think he went over half the ball didn't because
he he went over, but the ball didn't go over.
I was there right in front of the the play
that happened. I recorded and I started doing my own replay.
Was like, this guy is short either, and then you're
trying to figure.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Out the clock.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, but that last play though, you couldn't You couldn't tell.
You couldn't tell if you want. Yeah, no, no, That's what
I'm talking about. So the quarterback, it looked like his
body was his body was over and it got turned right,
but where the ball would have been, that's not over.
It was strange that he did he crouched low and
not try to jump over the He's.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
A taller quarterback.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, so yeah, you're right, he did get turned because
his body was over. Yeah, the ball was behind him
right basically when when play stopped and then they just
pulled him back.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Did they talk to the losing coach or you don't believe?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm not sure. Yeah, that's I know. They were obviously upset,
sure because.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
They were, like Jame said, they were celebrating just before.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well no good game here. Uh, kudos
to the people that went to see at least some
of it. We left the third quarter and you were
just kind of a behind us. It was it was nice,
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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio WIB. This is I on
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Speaker 2 (17:30):
Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver, You're one and now
on the phone, we have one of our usual guests,
Troy just sin with who you with?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Joy?

Speaker 5 (17:44):
It was a long catch on SI.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You sound sick?

Speaker 13 (17:48):
I am joining a little under the weather right now
and perfect timing obviously with game week.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, well callin sick, tell your boss you're you're not
feeling Hey, So what are they ready?

Speaker 5 (18:02):
You know? I think they are.

Speaker 13 (18:04):
Offensively, the team had their ups and downs throughout training camp,
but the understanding of the offense, I think is there
exactly the pace that they want to go?

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Players are comfortable with. And to be quite honest, if.

Speaker 13 (18:19):
You don't have those ups and downs offensively and defensively
throughout training camp, you're going to be pretty bad on one.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Side of the ball.

Speaker 13 (18:27):
So you want to see an an even keel from
both sides.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
What did you see, Let's just look at both sides.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
What did you see offensively that liked you liked, and
what about defensively that you liked?

Speaker 13 (18:40):
You know, offensively, I liked the rhythm, the pace, and
also that no Fafida is getting.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
The ball quickly out of his hands. I felt last season.

Speaker 13 (18:48):
There were times where the offense is didn't match the
strengths of no Fafida.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Too many deep balls. He has the arm, but it's
not necessarily.

Speaker 13 (18:57):
One of the top things that he does to throw
the deep ball. It's getting the ball out quick and
in space to his playmakers.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
And you saw that in twenty three and in twenty four.

Speaker 13 (19:06):
That kind of went away and that led to several sacks,
twenty eight stacks.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Twelve interceptions. So this offense meets more of that.

Speaker 13 (19:13):
He's getting the ball out quick, he's reading the defense,
and he's using his legs to make plays. Now is
he going to be able to be like a Khalil Tate. No,
but if he can hit a team for a six
yard game here, an eight yard game there throughout the
course of the game, I think that's going to be
better for the Wildcats. And then also the depth at
running back and the depth of receiver seems deeper.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
As of right now.

Speaker 13 (19:35):
Again, injuries could happen through the course of a season,
but they just have more talent from top to bottom
at their skill position areas in need.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
So what do you expect, I mean, is still what
five or six days way? What do you expect given
that Arizona has seen them at least with that.

Speaker 13 (19:54):
Yeah, you know, Hawaii is already a game in so
they understand what they need to do in terms of
already going through process like that. But they're going to
be traveling and that's.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Never an easy travel for Hawaii.

Speaker 13 (20:05):
Is leaving the islands, you know. Looking looking at that
Hawaii game, the two.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Takeaways I got were Stanford's pretty bad and Hawaii should
have won by a lot more.

Speaker 13 (20:15):
I thought they left some things out on the table
there and obviously they got lucky with the pick uh
to help tie that game.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Up at the end. But this Hawaii team is pretty talented.
I think they're freshman quarterback, have some skills, but it's
still pretty raw. Their receipt right, I forget the name,
but number one he is highly athletic, very fast. They
use him in a lot of different situations. So I
think this is going to be a game where you're
going to see it be pretty close in the first
half and then Arizona kind of pull away in that

(20:42):
mid third quarter to the beginning fourth quarter area.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
So watching the New Mexico game all over again, I'm
back their quarterback, so a little guy, and he kind
of got banged up at the end too, and they
you know, they get the clutch field goals, so they
managed to get it done.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
And those those first games, you're never quite sure what
to expect. I guess, right, yeah.

Speaker 13 (21:01):
And you know, even though it is against Stanford, a
lot of a lot of teams in their first games,
they don't want to show everything. You're not you're not
going out all the stops in week one and two.
You're kind of getting geared up and ready for the season,
uh for weeks three and beyond. But I think you're
going to see a lot of the same for Hawaii
from what you saw against Stamford, is this quarterback necessarily

(21:23):
like what they saw against New Mexico last year? No,
but very athletic, very tiny. I think Arizona's in a
better position now to handle that with a guy like
Danigan Zalez leading the defense instead of sitting back and waiting.
I think that was one of the things last year
where there was just too much sit back and wait
and read and react.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
So what do we know about the the individuals on
the team that will be the stars? And let's go
offense first, because I think we know of Noah and
we don't know really much of anybody else. But defensively,
there's more like who do we expect to see running back?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Receiver?

Speaker 13 (22:02):
Yeah, you know, I look at him. Excuse me, I
look at Kendrick Resono. He had a solid year last year,
but again that Dino Babers offense really didn't predicate to
the run. I think he's going to have a breakout
year this year. This offense is going to be up tempo.
And even though Setdegi, while yeah, Cetdegi is an air
raid guy, he's not afraid to run the football. At

(22:24):
Marshall last year, they were twentieth in rushing, so he
understands he needs to run the football to win. So
I think a guy like that's going to have a
big year. And then at the receiver position on offense,
I love Javon Wattley, the transfer from Chattanooga.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
He seems to have a good connection.

Speaker 13 (22:39):
With no Fafiita, a slot guy that you can move
out wide. He can beat you with speed and very
good hands. They can use him in multiple ways and
kind of line them up wherever they need to.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I would I would think in these early season games,
especially the first couple, they're really going to want to
see everybody, don't you think. I mean, they're gonna probably
want to just empty the bench and just see who
can play. And you know, the chemistry and the talent
and playing you know, in a big stadium for some
of these guys, But the first time, don't.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
You expect that?

Speaker 13 (23:07):
Yeah, you know, I think that receiver they're probably going
to go six tot eight deep, and that's really going
to be the theme all year until they come up with, hey,
you know, there's a huge gap between the sixth and
the eighth right now. And then I think you'll kind
of shrink. But I think they're going to roll out
a lot of receivers. You're going to see they have
listed on the depth chart for the tight end room

(23:27):
uh As, the starter, Sam Olsen, Tyler Powell.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
And then you have Burnette and then.

Speaker 13 (23:33):
The transfer from that small college all as or so
they're all going to see playing time.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Throughout this game. Is the idea.

Speaker 13 (23:42):
I think you're going to just see a lot of
rotations there the running back room and the receivering room
and start to see it kind of dwindle down to
a set maybe six that receiver.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I think it's always going to be three deep that
running back.

Speaker 13 (23:54):
And maybe three deep that tight end by the time
Kansas State rolls around.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
So I don't know if what you think, but don't
you think that that depth is probably be better than
having This is a dumb statement in the T Mac
because they had he had a guy T Mac, right,
he had Mac and t Mac and whoever said was second.
Now he's got six dudes, five dudes, six dudes that
he does have to contentrate on one and everybody knows
about that one, right, and knew about that one.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Now he has more targets.

Speaker 13 (24:22):
Yeah, you know, I think it's better in the sense
that behind TAMAC last season, you you just didn't have anything.
No offense to Chris Hunter, who's going to be a
starter this year for Arizona, but he came on later
in the year, and after t MAC, it was just
a bunch of nothing that you could rely upon. So
teams were you know, doubling tripling them at times and

(24:43):
you couldn't go anywhere else because other guys weren't getting
open because they just weren't talented enough to play. This year,
I think you're a little bit more balanced, but you
don't have.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
That super superstar receiver.

Speaker 13 (24:53):
Now, if you had a teprooms no end to this group,
I think that would be incredible in one of the
better receiving courters in the country. But I think it's
a nice receiving corps that's just very evenly talented and
can get the job done. A lot of six eight
hundred yard receivers in this group.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, I mean Hunter had thirty five catches last year
and three touchdowns, so he was involved a little bit.
You're right, because there are a few times when te
mech was either banged up or was it just you know,
not playing for a few minutes and he seemed to
be the other go to guy.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
So it's good to have that experience.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (25:24):
No, and he's looked good in training camp. Kind of
worked his way back from an injury, but it looks
like he's good to go and has just as looked
at one of those top receivers on the team, one
of the guys that they kind of had to when
he was kind of working his way back, kind of
keep out because he goes so hard and practice and
they didn't want him to aggravate anything. So he should

(25:46):
be good to go, and he looks really good this year.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Troy. I don't know how you feel about this.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
You talked about some of the playmakers for both sides
of the ball, but one position that I find very
interesting is that tight end position because, like you said,
there's a lot of there's three or's on the depth chart,
meaning that they're more than likely going to play as
many tit ends as they can. But is there someone
that should be standing out amongst that group?

Speaker 13 (26:12):
Yeah, you know, I think the top two have stood
out from the rest, and that's Sam Olsen and Tyler Powell.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
I think they're clearly.

Speaker 13 (26:19):
One and two on the depth chart, even though it
says or on there, Tyler Powell is more of the
receiving tight end, very athletic body, has grown into a
six foot seven frame, become a little bit better of
a blocker as well, a little more.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Tough this season.

Speaker 13 (26:34):
And then Sam Olsen, He's just that, you know, gritty
blocking tight end, but has been able to get involved
in the receiving game. And you know, anything from about
I would say eight to twelve yards in that range
is where he's going to hurt you the most. So
I think those two have really separated themselves.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
From the rest.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Okay, what about on the defensive end.

Speaker 13 (26:56):
Defensively, you know, I think the guy that everybody has
to look out for this season and kind of got
snubbed off of the big Fall preseason All Conference team
is Genesis Smith. We've seen him develop throughout his years
at Arizona and now, in my opinion, he is the
best defensive player not only on this team, but probably
the best safety in the conference as well. This is

(27:17):
shaping up to be a big year for him where
he could play himself into that second or third round of.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
The NFL draft. He's all over the ball, He's played
all over the.

Speaker 13 (27:25):
Field for Arizona last year, even lining up at linebacker
at times due to injury. But just a super athletic
guy that's found his voice in the secondary. And then
you look at the linebacker position date Brown has become
more of a vocal leader out there on the team,
out there on the field for the defense, has got
him better in coverage and is one of the sure
tacklers on the unit.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
And you know, we had a chance to see some
of the Big twelve teams this past weekend as well.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
You think it's going to.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Be just crazy, wide open again, nobody really knows who
to expect to. You know, who's gonna win the league.
Kansas State was supposed to do it and they lose
the eye. I always stayed already right off the bat,
what are your early predictions for the conference?

Speaker 13 (28:07):
You know, I was one of the ones I thought
Kansas State would win this conference. But how they looked
against I always stay it in Ireland was not good
at all. Again, it's an overseas game, so it's a
little tricky. But you look at this conference and there
is no dominant team, there's no superstar team, there's no
USC Washington or Oregon of the past for Arizona. So I

(28:28):
do think this league is very wide open. You saw
last year of ash being picked last and finishing first,
and they were kind of finding their footing throughout the
year and then it kind of started to click and
they were able to make it to the College Football playoffs.
So I think realistically, out of the sixteen, I think
maybe eleven could make a case where they could surprise

(28:48):
people and win the conference. The rest, you know, maybe not,
but you're going to see growth there. And then there's
the bottom three where they're probably going to be near
the bottom this season.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
But the conference is.

Speaker 13 (29:01):
Wide open and I really don't see a team that's
just going to go out there and run away with this.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
So do you have them in the eleventh or the twelve?
Thirteen forty fifteen sixteen?

Speaker 13 (29:12):
We just had our preseason predictions for the upcoming year.
I have Arizona going seven to five of finishing with
four wins in the conference, sweeping the non conference.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
So that's the win over Kansas State. I don't think
they're quite there yet, but they get back to both contention.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
So that's a yes and a no. What was that answer?

Speaker 5 (29:35):
That's a note for the conference title, but a yes
to a bowl game? Yes to the bowl game?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Did you you went eight and four?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Right? I went am and four. But I gotta ask
about the conference itself. You said there's eleven teams. Is
that a good thing or a bad thing for the
conference to have?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
That?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
There's just this unpredictability that anyone can win it. But
maybe whereas like the Pac twelve, it was usually an
Oregon UCLA and they have that recognition.

Speaker 13 (30:01):
I think you want to have depth in a conference.
I think you saw it in the Pac twelve the
last year in twenty three, where Washington was really good,
Arizona was really good.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
You also had Oregon State that.

Speaker 13 (30:13):
Turned it on late during that year and others as
well as I'm forgetting the names right now, but you
had a team in Washington that was like, okay, they're
probably going to the college football playoffs in Oregon as well,
and they did.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
In the Big Twelve, you didn't really have that last year,
ASU made it in.

Speaker 13 (30:32):
I think you need at least one or two teams
that you look at as college football playoff contenders, and
I'm not sure the Big Twelve hats that this season.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think that's important.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Maybe that's what the commissioner who's talked about Branion Wormack
has talked about getting a couple teams in the playoff.
I mean there's going to be two of this year too,
right at experience? Is it this year expands to twelve? Yes, yes, yes,
I mean they would like to get you know, at
least two big twelve schools into that situation.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 13 (30:59):
I think the teams that you look at potentially to
get into that twelve team mark obviously Arizona State, Iowa State,
and the last one I was going to say is
off the top of my Texas Tech. With the money
that they spent.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
In the transfer portal and.

Speaker 13 (31:16):
On the recruiting class, they really put together a loaded
ross on paper.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
If Texas Tech doesn't win it, But doesn't that always
show and I bloyed, this money doesn't always boy happiness
in victories.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
M hm, Well they're going to try that. They don't always.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Money doesn't always get the championships and or victories, no
matter how much.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
You yeah, yeah, no, I think if.

Speaker 13 (31:40):
They don't make it, to God, I really I hate
to say this because this sounds insane.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
If they don't make it to a college football playoffs in.

Speaker 13 (31:48):
The next two years, you would have to assume that
coach is gone because you're spending what like twenty twenty
five million in transfers, and then you spend around twenty
eight million in your recruiting clas spur not this year,
but next year around that twenty million dollars mark.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
And if you're not.

Speaker 13 (32:05):
Going to be able to produce and you have top
tier talent and they're stealing five star recruits away from Alabama, Texas,
USC and you're not getting there, eventually people are going
to get tired of it.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting, especially in this conference.
You have them beat in Kansas State. I can't remember
what I thought, but after seeing who knows after last
weekend because it was hard. They were on the road,
both of them in Ireland.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Ireland. Yeah, first game, this very ugly game. It was
pretty ugly.

Speaker 13 (32:36):
Yeah, a very ugly game. I think they either they
split that Kansas State Iowa State matchups. So the reason
why I went with Kansas State obviously it's a home
game and it's a Friday night games.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (32:51):
Yeah, that puts a little bit better for Arizona plane
under lights and Tucson with a quarterback and Avery Johnson
that's been very inconsistent. And a lot of these defenders
remember what they did, what he did to them last season,
and now you have a new defense coordinator.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, that doesn't mean that they won't do it again.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
We'll see.

Speaker 13 (33:12):
I mean, we'll see if you put him in a
passing situation. I just I don't. I don't trust his
arm to beat you. You're gonna have to stop the run.
That's number one.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, Okay, we're good. I think that's about right, right, Troy,
thank you, get better. The Arizona Stadium needs you to
go to go park and eat some of their food.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Oh yeah, okay, I think he says, I'll see.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I appreciate it. Take care. That's good. Was he there
today at the end, No, he's too ill. He was
supposed to be the guy today and he's and you're
the guy today. So he's out for a couple of days. Yeah, No. Interesting.
What's to make of this first game? Right? What's to
make of it?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I mean we can sit here and talk and talk
and talk, but until we really see him play. Yeah,
and we can talk more next week about what we saw.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
To talking about Brennan, I mean to his credit to
the same thing, because he's been saying the same thing.
How can you spin it differently before the first game?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, I mean you have to have a message for
the offseason, and now it's it's game week and you
have to, you know, see what happens on the field
and then react to that next week and make changes
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
So I do think though they actually need to win
this game. Oh yeah, they absolutely need to eat next
week's game and not.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Not stinking up against Kansas's State Kansas State.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think that we've talked about where the fans and
even the country should be seeing the real Arizona Wildcat
team this year. I think it's going to be that
Kansas State game because they've already lost to Iowa State.
They got to play a North Dakota team. Should win,
but you never know. Then they're pretty good if I
can remember correctly North. But then after that they play

(34:48):
go and play Army and that's not a team to
mess around with that any any Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
You're talking about Kansas State, right, yes, Kansas State.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, So I think even even though it's still early
in the season, you should know what kind of team
Kansas State is and then from there you should be
able to measure up where Arizona is. And you know
this this radio show we're being hosted in in uh
In Kansas, Manhattan, Man then they're talking about, oh that's
a win. You know, they're talking come out here. Yeah,
so we'll see, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I mean, a Wildcat reputation isn't great in the conference.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
And right now, when we look at the schedules, right,
that's how we go that's what we go by. We
don't really see, well, that guy's strong with that guy.
We look at the schedule and say, okay, that's whenna ball,
that's when.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
And again you know, we are new to the Big twelve.
We're not quite sure what to expect from some of
these schools.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
And you know, we've had one year to look at them.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
And now everyone's asking, wow, you think wild Gus are
gonna do well?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I still don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I mean, let's just kind of watch for a year, right,
a year or two and kind of you know, start
seeing how teams trend and like, oh, wow, they're never
going to be much.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'll give you this day because you know I haven't
I haven't been to practice. I know, this guy teases
me about it. You've gone to how many?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Uh? I'm not sure?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
And what do you see? What do you see? Just
from the naked eye? I think he's a better team
than last year. Okay, but I think they had I
think the level of superstars may not be there as
far as Team MAC or even a Jonas havn't aya,
But I think it's a more athletic team.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Okay, And that'll get you. We don't know, we don't know, right,
You never know.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
No one ever knows until you get to November circumstances.

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Yeah, yeah, Okay, ball bounces the right way. You look
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Speaker 3 (40:42):
Hey, welcome back to why on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silbert.
You got one at the controls. We're hoping to get
some calls. Five to two zero four one six seventy
four forty love to hear from you. Are you ready
for the football game? I guess they talked a little
about uh buck of food and stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You have had a little bit of the showcase for food. Yeah,
I know. I think they even posted about it.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
What are they saying, uh, just different new new food,
like not the four dollars hot dog, but the two
dollars soda, but kind of a little bit more on
the expensive side for a gourmet dish.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I thought they were cutting prices though on some of
the they are, I think they are some of the
they're gonna have the Florest family again, is gonna have
I guess pineapple on pizza. I saw that and some.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Other things from the menu items.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
It'll be game one, you know, and everyone's going to
kind of wonder what's gonna what the game experience is
going to be like, and I know the UFA's try
to concentrate on that. What it's like for the fans.
Is there a band playing? I don't even know there is.
There is something happened in this first game. There is
a type of entertains part of that dust dust music.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
They see a list out, but I haven't seen who
it is. But the thing about it is they can't
have the same thing to happen three four years ago.
Remember they couldn't get into the game. That's right at we.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Got to call Hello, you're on the air Andine on
the ball. Who's this?

Speaker 5 (42:03):
It's Brian. How's it going, Brian?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
What's up?

Speaker 19 (42:07):
Just about the game? This weekend? I was just kind
of wondering. I know, you know, everybody expects to win,
but my question is what would satisfy the fans in
this town. Would it be a forty to seventeen win
where we can score some points and they don't score
a lot? Or is it just get a win?

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah? Brian? Did you was it in New Mexican game
the first game last year?

Speaker 19 (42:31):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
And so okay, Brian, did you go to the first
game last year? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Okay, So when you left that game, what did you
think we're in trouble?

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
No, No, That's why I asked, because let's say the
same game happens.

Speaker 19 (42:46):
Yeah, I totally agree, you know. I mean, you know,
I didn't watch the Hawaii Stampord games.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
I don't know you know.

Speaker 19 (42:54):
What happened, you know, besides I guess Stamford one, no one?
Oh why you did win the game?

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Okay, I just don't know if Yeah, I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
If you know?

Speaker 19 (43:07):
The defense is the question. You know, I think we'll
be able to put up points, But are you know,
defenses like the big question mark because they were so
bad last year and we got a bunch of new
guys and whatever, and what are those guys good enough
to make a change where I know we would only
give up less than twenty points a game.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, we'll see what happens. But to your point, I
remember leaving that arena. No, I went to the game.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I think I went to the game, or are you
It was the first game you were there, and uh,
but I left one game. Who's the same, maybe when
next week? And it was kind of a close game.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
I think he took the lead of the half and
thinks so I remember some some of the students came,
oh god, we're in trouble. We're gonna get our butt
kicks if this continues. Yeah, and I started kind of laughing,
and I'm thinking, it's the way. Come on, guys, it's
still way early. And no, it was. That's the way
it was.

Speaker 19 (44:00):
Yeah, you know, it's just gonna be difficult and tell
until the football team proves it to the fans whether
or not they can, you know, be super be competitive,
I mean be competitive against good teams. You know, we
should be beating the hawaiis you know, Hawaii isn't that

(44:20):
bad of a team. But we should be able to
handle that.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You guys have been to State.

Speaker 19 (44:25):
We should be able to win that game. Now the
Kansas State game, it's a different story. Yeah, by then
we should have a night we should have an idea
what this team is by then.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
So, Brian, I know you've been here a long time.
Dave has been here, you know, forty years, and Juanes
grew up here. What are your realistic expectations given that
you've seen it all and you go into a years Okay, yeah,
we're going to be ten to one blah blah blah.
Realistic expectations given your history with the program for this year,
for just normal years.

Speaker 19 (44:56):
If we can get to a ball game, I guess
we're satisfied. You know, it's pretty bad were our standards
are get to a bowl game and we're satisfied, you know,
not that we're gonna not that we're going to get
in the playoffs, but I would hope we expect more,
you know, the nine and threes, the eight and four
type seas exactly.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of what I hope for
as well. Also competitive games and you know, just like
look looking like a team can win any game.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
That they play.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
There were many years where that was kind of the
way it was around here, and that was under who
it is varied, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
But it wasn't consistent. It wasn't consistent.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
But there were many years where you go, you know what,
we're gonna We're gonna go nine and three, or we're
gonna go you know, eight and four or something like that. So,
you know, last year there were so many times where said,
there's is no way we're gonna win this game. It
just didn't have the offense. I couldn't stop anybody. It
was just it was tough to watch.

Speaker 19 (45:51):
I just hope the fans can get behind Brennan because
the one thing I don't want to see, excuse me,
is Brennan lose his job and then we're right back
in the same place we worked two a year and.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
A half ago.

Speaker 19 (46:03):
Yeah, what about you want we have to we have
to be successful. This coach should be around five six years.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Thanks Brian, appreciate it. Thanks for Yeah, So for you,
because you're you're an optimist. How many times have you
gone to you go to this, You've gone a lot of.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I've only missed about two home games in the last decade.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Okay, so you go to the season that you go
throughout the seasons and then what do you hope Oh no, no, realistically,
hope realistically I always want a competitive game. Maybe obviously
when I was younger, Uh, it was always we should
be winning almost every home game, because when that stadium
is full, it's it's a tough place to play. And
at the time, it was mostly full for the most

(46:44):
part when I was going to the.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Game watching Stoops or rich Ron Rich Rich.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Rod in his early years. No question is really full,
no question. Towards the end, not so much. And maybe
that's again we've talked about it of fans don't have
that attention span anymore. They rather go watch it at
General Benz where they can be on their phone and
have a nice strenk for cheaper and I think that's
something that's Arizona's trying to address right now, that fan experience.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
I was gonna say, you know too, it's also just
kind of a snowball effect when when they don't recruit
well and they don't coach well, they don't the players.
I mean that there have been times in the last
you know, twenty years where it's kind of like you
can just sort of see the results, you know, coaching changes.
That's never an easy transition. Yes, who knows what the
next couple of years are going to be.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Like this go past the next twenty years, David let's
go through the Okay, so Stoops was here or not here.
He was here probably just at the end of twenty
years ago, okay, and then rich Rod right, and then
rich Rod and then something and then the fish or
whatever of those twenty years. Would you just described how
many of those years have been the case?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Yeah, I mean there were there were a couple of
high points. I mean Stoops started off slow, but then.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
He built, he had mess tality.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Teams, and then he fit and then he faded so
fast that last year that you know, caused him his
job where they couldn't beat anybody, but it was weird.
I mean, they were winning, they went to a couple
of Bowl games I think before that, and then that
you know, the year that wound up costing him as
his job.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
They were terrible. So he has probably the coaching change.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Coaching change, and you know they have you know, a
couple interim coaches just to get to rich Rod next.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
And then how many was he here four or five
years if that? Yeah? That many? But he and he
had a great stretch there.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yeah, obviously they get to the you know the f
what was the festival?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I guess?

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Well, and now that's a college football playoff game, right,
it's Collge football playoff team. But there's been If if
you give me twenty years, I'd say seven of them
have been pretty pretty good. That's thirteen that haven't been
And then then you can kind of say, I don't
I don't know what rock bottom was before eighty two
or whatever or a seventy nine, but it was rock

(48:52):
bottom under someone if anything quick too. They started with
that first his first game, I guess BYU. So you
when you when you don't have that same callil tape
that you have the year before, the fans aren't going
to get behind that. So it's like, give you twenty
years those four of them history, and the first year
of Jed you can kind of say, okay, maybe the
second year of Jed because he started whatever, that's five,

(49:13):
that's twenty five, But that's what twenty five percent of
the twenty years, and then all the other kind of
years that fall into place.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, definitely, I mean you want some you're begging for
some consistency. Yeah, I mean really that's kind of what
you want. Honestly, everyone you know complained, Oh you know,
they're kind of boring, but gosh, they would go you.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Know, seven and four. Every year they would usually make
a bowl game, and it was magic. You know, we
didn't have a dynamic offense.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
And that's just that's the way football is being played
in those years anyway.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Now you have to have a dynamic offense.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
You've got to be able to stop them some at
some point when you weren't alive then you were twenty
or twenty twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
What do you want you bored? Oh?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Three oh three year? So twenty two years? Yeah, yeah,
so you weren't there. And that's the that's I want
to say, funny thing because he was you know, seven
and five, maybe an eight and four, whatever it was,
and then a five and seven. But that's what you're
hoping for now, right, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Right?

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (50:11):
See that for me, that was rich Rod. He went
his first three years of going to a bowl game. Obviously,
at thirty year, he hit the he hit gold. Fourth year,
doesn't live up to expectations, fifth year down to the dumpson.
And then you get a player like a little Tate
and even then that's by chance. Brandon Dawkins goes out
in Colorado, sure, and then goes and runs four hundred
yards on it's just on defense, and then you see

(50:35):
it air Zona. I've been here a long time now
and I covered a lot of these games where you
see so much potential potential dot dot dot Yeah, potential, momentum, potential, yeah, yeah,
no runs out of that.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
It was nice to catch fire.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
You know, it'd be nice if they could, you know,
roll out, you know, four or five straight wins to
start the season and you know that they're going to
go to a bowl game pretty much, and then just
kind of meander their way through the Big two. Well,
you know, again, some of these places are unknown to
you a fans. I mean the coaches are you know,
coaching and scouting these teams. They kind of know what
to expect. But it would be nice to have a
comfortable year every once.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
In a while.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, that's been few, not like the football basketball team
because you know, you know you're gonna get a likely
Sweet sixteen team and then after that it's all kind
of not gravy. But you hope to get to the
eight to the four yep, and that's been that's been
tough too, So we'll see are we ready to go.
I think one thing that's been missing the last couple
of years is a hometown product. And obviously it's hard

(51:35):
to get that in because there's hard it's hard to
get that in Tucson truly.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But the last hometown kid who was that Giam Carry
that was of that was in the spotlight? Yeah? Am
I wrong? That's probably?

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, I know when you think of those that have left,
all those Cell Point kids, especially the world Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
And the ransoms.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah, that's another testament to the coaches.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
You know, I think that's one thing that could engage
more fans if you can get that hometown product of
a Bijon Robinson, a Caadeven carry back on that Arizona sideline.
That that's someone a city can get behind.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
And if they're a superstar, will they come here? Will
they will afford them? Well, now in the old days,
you know you could recruit them and whatever.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Is that a rhetorical question? Yeah, you know they're not coming.
They're not coming.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
The thing, you know, it just gotta catch catch fire
and get a hope.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Well, you know you get that one Sean Elliott, right,
and the Kadeem Carry or or that guy.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
That's it, man, that's it. How many times having a
couple of baseball players, Mason White, well even even since
the basketball when was last Seawn Elliott, even though they've
had some guys make the team and then not make
the team. You know, Okay, we gotta go