Hour 1- October 3, Jake Fischer

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
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today with me is my Friday guy Jagins. Also we
got Ray got the mic on the other side. Well,
you have a special guest, Zach Berger from Oklahoma State.
All right, man, Welcohma State you maybe you'll come away
with a win. Only in this time frame because tomorrow

(00:37):
I'm not too sure. Neither me neither you know what.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Zach walked in with an orange shirt and cowboys and
it just didn't dawn on me that he was here
with Oklahoma State guys. They're just like, I don't know
what that is. I appreciate the the info.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So we're if you didn't notice, we're two old dudes.
Hell Ray had to asked me if I d know
who married Jay Blige? Was only crass them if you
knows who Donna Summer is? No, you don't, Oh, so
we win. I guess Tina Turner.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, who's the other one who did you say Donna Summer,
Tina Turner.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I think those were the two that we used. Aretha Franklin, Yeah, no,
Donna Summer. We'll play maybe you recognize love to love
you baby? No, Yeah, he'll google you. Gets out.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Google yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, welcome to Friday Show. We're back again with Jake Fisher.
In the first hour, all right to talk to Jake
has been away, it's been a while. Yeah, you're right.
I don't see what he has up his sleeve for
this weekend. And then in the second hour, our guy
Zach is gonna fill us in with what's going on
in Oklahoma State and what could be a weird b.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
What's not going on with Oklahoma State right? Which is sorry, Zach,
but it's winning. It's not going on much over there.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
You know, you're right, So we'll get to that in
a bit. Anybody good to have you, Jay, At least
you're happier today than you were but days ago.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, you know, first of all, the game I erased that.
The football game, Oh yeah, pretty much immediately. They made
a lot of mistakes. And you can't make those mistakes
that they made, you know, and expect to hang the
Dodgers are you know in the second round of the playoffs,
I'm still you know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I was trying not to be Alabama fan.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Or you have a basketball fan who's not just not
just happy with the win, they want style points. And
then you know, the Dodgers' bullpen still looks awful, and
you know, we just had Chris in here and he
wanted to, you know, bet on the Dodgers playing the
Yankees in the World Series. That's not going to happen.
Dodgers aren't going to the World Series because their bullpen
is still a mess. And now they got to play
the Phillies. So but you know, they didn't you know,

(02:47):
lay an egg against Cincinnati. They swept them. They were
the only team that swept the first round. And so
they start playing the Phillies tomorrow and see what happens.
There will be a tougher situation. So we went to
Ray and I went to watch the game and an
establishment here over the weekend, Ray, did you were you
listening to the to the woman that was next to
me want to answer to these questions at times? Did

(03:07):
you did you hear her talking about her thoughts on
why people don't go to the u A games like
there wasn't enough advertising that no other people.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It kind of struck me. Did it strike you?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I was a little bit surprising.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
I feel like, I mean, you would think that Arizona,
especially during football season right now, is the only draw
in town.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It feels like so right and and but she's correct though,
because outside of we already got a call, we might
know who this is. Hello, you're in the air nine
of the ball. Hey, Jame, Hello? Who's this?

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Rick?

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Who is this? Yes? I can yes, hello.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
First of all, I'm down the Jay, a.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Brown. Jay's never been up on anybody.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's a lie, that's a big fat lie.

Speaker 8 (03:59):
So I gotta see if he's gonna give me a
little love this week.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Let me see.

Speaker 8 (04:05):
I don't even know who they're playing.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Oh, they're playing the Vikings. Vikings. Mind is four and
a half at the Brown?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Remember, no, no, no, it's on It's it's overseas.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Oh no, that's last week. That's last week. I'm sorry,
I was looking.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
They're playing They're playing the Brown.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Okay, all right, well anyway.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Okay, look look Rick, here here's what's I wanna do.
I'm gonna give you six how's that. The line's four
and a half.

Speaker 8 (04:32):
Oh man, you're feeling very greatful.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I'm ahead money exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
Does that worked for you?

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, I'll take it all day long.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
Now, I will say this about your Dodgers. I feel
bad for you, I really do, because you're you're right,
you're bull paying. Uh they're hemorrhaging right now.

Speaker 9 (05:00):
I think they can beat Philly. It's going to be tough,
but I think they can beat Philly. I just think
I love Dave Roberts and what he's done over there.

Speaker 10 (05:14):
Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I think they can. I just don't think they will.
The Dodgers can win. The Dodgers can win the World Series.
I just don't think they will because I think the
bullpen is going to do them in.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
No, I don't think they're getting the World Series. But
I think they could beat the Phillies. I just don't
feel comfortable with it. And I'll tell you something else.
I think the teams that have had this week layoff,
I think it's gonna hurt them more than help them.
I know the rest helps, but there's something about when
you're playing pretty decent ball, you keep the momentum going.

(05:46):
You don't break it up with a week of you know, now,
my best friend growing up, he's been a Boston fan
and I can't help it, but I am now he
is in great debt to me. So my Yankees are
looking good, and that pitching exhibition last night by Skittler

(06:13):
was absolutely I was that was impressive, particularly for a rookie.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
So that's enough of my baseball.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Steve, Okay, Well, good for you.

Speaker 8 (06:24):
Go Cats, and I think they win by four or
it's gonna be a I don't think it's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
A pushover like everything you gotta.

Speaker 8 (06:34):
You got a coach, and you got a bunch of
kids that are a little bit hurt because the coach
is gone.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh yeah, No, I think that's a factory. And we'll
talk to Zach about that. I think I agree with
you there. I don't know if it's gonna be that close,
but I do agree that the team will play harder
for the next guy that's up because there was too
much turmoil with Gundy. But we'll talk about that later.
Thank you Rick for calling. All Right. One of the
things we're talking about, so we're talking about advertising in town,
and you're talking about its only game in town, right,

(07:02):
And I'm thinking she's kind of right, because there's growing
up where I grew up. I mean, there always had everything,
you know on the bill boards or whatever. How many
of those do you see? We talk about it here,
everybody else on the shows talk about it, but.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I guess, you know, I guess I don't think about
it much because you go. You know, I'm aware, I
know all the things that are a target, so I
don't pay attention to you know, ads and TV commercials
and you know, I you know, whether it's the newspaper rates,
I don't, So I don't know if she says that
as a fan who's not like me.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And she's you, she's a local who she grew up going.
And I says, why do you think they don't go?
He says, well, not enough people know. There's not enough
static out there. Really, I you.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Know what, if somebody's got that opinion, I can't argue
with them, I think, because you're you're already in I
don't need you know, I probably see advertisements and social
media and stuff like that, and I just go right
past it because you know, like I mean, I do
look for on Mondays, when's the you know, the next
time kickoff time and stuff like that. But I don't

(08:05):
need somebody selling me tickets and and whatnot. I get
the emails, you know, I'm on the email list for
all the emails that go out about stuff like that,
and I know there's a lot of promotion as far
as that goes, but when it comes to you know,
actual advertising. Look, I don't watch I don't watch like
local TV, right, I watch movies, I watch sports, So.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't see You're not alone that.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, I don't see ads on the ten o'clock news
or whatever and what they're doing there. I do see
their social media, and I feel like there's plenty of that,
you know, coming through my through all my feeds. But
you know, if there's a person out there who feels
like they don't see enough of that stuff, then who
am I to argue with them?

Speaker 4 (08:42):
If they if they feel that, then that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah, interesting. I mean I don't know. I
think it's a student. I'm kind of in the same
but as Jay, where it's like you're.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
On campus, you know, you know what's going on, right, Yeah,
and it's not we're not a college channing.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know that, Zach, you said still waters like one
hundred thousand people. Yeah, about that? And and does the
stadium how does how big is it? I want to
say they hold about seventy And how is the attendance
good times, bad times, good times, bad times? Honestly pretty good.

Speaker 11 (09:12):
I was shocked with Tulsa and Baylor with how many
you know, it filled out pretty well obviously, you know,
he kind of gets those in sections and you know
it's not that much.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
They're good in sixty Yeah, I'd say.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
You remember those games when Stoops took over there and there,
I mean, the place was jammed and it was it
was a hard play and you know, and then that
stadium with the way the way it's built was I mean,
the fans are like ten feet from the players, and
it's it's like, you know, it's it looked intimidating to me, right,
And I'm not going to say that that's the only
thing to do in town.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, you're young. It's a coachy place, right Yeah. And
it's a college town. It's a college town. They love
their football.

Speaker 11 (09:50):
I also think right now it helps with the curiosity
of it all right, Okay, no, this could be Gundy's
last game. Let's go watch. Hey, this is first game
without Gundy, let's go watch. So I think the curiosity
is kind of helping and two sons of college town.
But it's not Yeah, well, yeah, you're right, it isn't
it is.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I mean, it's a college town for those of us
who have been here a while, but there's a lot
of people who have not been here for a while.
And to them, you know, it's kind of like, you know,
there's not a lot you know.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'd rather watch them on TV go to the game, right.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I'll you know, stay home and I'll watch the Bears,
or I'll watch you know whatever, I'll watch USC or
Michigan or whoever. No, you're you're right, but you know,
but then you know, on the other hand, though, you know,
the fans that that are interested, they're always finding reasons
not to go, Like like this week, they're going to say, well,
it's too hot, I don't want or it's too early
in the day, or anyone of a.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Number they tell you if they don't go next week
in the perfect five o'clock five o'clock game against a
pretty good b YU team, let's assume they win tonight
or tomorrow, they're gonna be four to one. If they
don't go next week, there's they're not coming. They're bandwidth,
the bandwidth of of Arizona football because might be just
the forty.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Four or one.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yes, you're right, you're you're unpresent, correct, That's a that'll
really say a lot about the fans that I mean,
if there aren't fifty thousand or forty eight thousand people
at the BYU game at five o'clock in the afternoon
when it should be a really nice day against a
team that we absolutely can't stand, Yeah, then then you're
not you're you're You might say you're an Arizona fan,
but you're not.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You're you're you know, you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Watch their games on TV or whatever's more comfortable to you,
but you're not somebody that's gonna come to games.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Remember, too, the b YU travels well.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
They do travel well.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
So they are a big reason why we moved from
where we were sitting next to the visiting fans to
the other side because it was their fans obviously, the
ASU fans and and and to a degree Oregon fan.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
You know, we just couldn't take it from them anymore.
You know we were going to get arrested and.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
So uh and so we instead of getting interested, we
decided to move to the other side of the stadium.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's good for you. Yeah, put the bail money on
the other side. You can spend it there.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean there was a
melee between us and some NAU fans and was freaking Nau.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, it's like it's like there's like Jalo. At some
point they're gonna blame Jalo, right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Okay, wait, it's there's fights with all these fans. Who's
the common dedominator where we were exactly? So yeah, so
we had to move to the other side.

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Jay gone, Yeah, right, Okay, let's take a break down.
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Hey, welcome back to whying the ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jakin Zones. Now
on the phone, we have former UA football player Jake Fisher. Jake,
how you doing.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
I'm doing great and nice to be back on with you. Guys.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
We missed your wisdom.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Black thereof mans Hey.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Before we start, let me tell you I had gerhard
the beer on yesterday and another good dude, just a
fantastic dude, right, you know, you didn't know how to
play football when he got here, and he told us
the story of you know, people tell him where to
go and what to do and blah blah blah, and
they put him on special teams and apparently he messed
with you on one of the times when he pushed
you in the back or clipped you or whatever, and

(17:41):
new says, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Well? Yeah, what you guys got to remember is like,
you know, we're over here trying to work on it.
And he was a starter by the end of the time.
But like if we're over here trying to work on something,
and you know, I know I turned around. I felt
kind of bad after stuff like that. But you know,
you get pushed in the back, you know, whether it's
just a walk through or whatever, and you turn around,
like what the hell. And then I saw him and

(18:05):
I'm like, Okay, I got to kind of give him
a little bit of a break because he doesn't know.

Speaker 10 (18:09):
Ye so yeah, no, And the cool thing about him.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Was he worked his tailoff and you know, you see
him coming from doing something completely different to him eventually
starting that's pretty damn cool.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah no, yeah, yeah, I remember the story on him
that he I mean, he didn't know a lick about football,
and well, you know when you when you see somebody
like that Jake, you know, do you see their learning
process and where it's kind of raw and like at
the very beginning, you grew up playing football.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Right, he did not.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
How do you see him processing all the stuff that
he's got to know, especially when you're talking about college football.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
It's not like popcorn or something like that.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
Yeah, it's a little different. And you know, he ended
up playing I think tackle, And what you got to
remember is as an offensive line, especially because a lot
of offensive line coaches like the shuffle around to make
sure you can play multiple positions. That's a lot to remember. Yeah,
And the fact of the matter is running up to
the ball within the first few seconds and snapping it

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during a rische rot offense, Like, think about how smart
you have to be, how quick on your feet you
have to be. So watching that, like a lot of
people would have been like, you know, forget this, I'm
just going to go back to throwing. I'm just going
to go back to doing what I'm good at.

Speaker 10 (19:24):
But he actually stuck it out.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
So I mean, it's always it's always cool seeing those
stories because most people would have just folded and instead,
by his senior year, he was the one folding people
and he was so I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And he ended up with the package on a couple
of coffee.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Let me ask you a question on that, because you know,
going from one level to the next, right, you know,
all of a sudden you're playing high school football and
just hearing a play call and what what that's supposed
to be? And then going from high school, I'm from college,
you know, going into college and so just all the

(20:00):
terminology and all that kind of stuff. How confusing is
it at the beginning? You know, how much is it
to take in to figure out when there's a play
called their XYZ, this that and the other.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Is Is that really hard?

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Well? Of course it is. And what you guys got
to remember there are certain levels even when it comes
to the high school game. So imagine going to a
program like a modern Day or like one of these
really good Chandler High schools up here, where you probably
have a ton of former players that are actually coaching,
so you know, they know what they're doing. They might

(20:36):
be able to mix up a bunch of different blitzes,
a bunch of different you know, fire blitz is a
bunch of different stunts, a bunch of different things for
people on the field. And you didn't even have that
to like, you know, bridge the gap from there to college.
So he had to Basically he was a clean slate.
And again, bless his heart for being able to actually

(20:56):
take in all that information. It probably sucked at first,
but you know, he just wanted to play. So again,
he had none of that background knowledge like some of
us do coming up through high school, especially if you
have really good coaches that know what they're doing. He
didn't have that, so it was basically sink or swim
for him, fight or flight, And again give him credit,

(21:17):
he fought through it. And you know, like Steve said,
he ended up and he period, so you know, like
we saw him walk into the weight room. You know,
we were we were doing a team workout. He walked
in and everyone's kind of like, who's that guy? You know,
he's a big dude, but he was you know, you
could tell he could put some muscle on and put
some mass on, but it's not you know, you've seen

(21:37):
him walking around obviously when he was at his biggest
he did not look like that at all. But and
he looked a little awkward at first out running around
in pads and stuff, and again.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
He stuck with it.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
So good for him.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
So have you been able to figure this team out
that you follow in love?

Speaker 10 (21:56):
Not so much.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
I know. I think that we have a little bit
more depth, so if somebody goes down, we're not putting
out some you know, someone that shouldn't be out there.
I think the fact we're a little bit more aggressive
on the defensive side of the ball, and I think
we have an offensive identity.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
I think maybe last week.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Against Iowa State we lost that identity a little bit
because we've got those three big bruisers in the middle,
like use them right, you're able to run establish a
run game. The only thing that we haven't been able
to do, and we were not able to do it
last year. Is take advantage of the big mistakes and
prevent the big mistakes.

Speaker 10 (22:32):
Right, what did Iowa State do better?

Speaker 5 (22:34):
You look at the yards, you look at a lot
of different things he wants to highlights. It's not like
they were just like overwhelmingly better. It's the two picks.
It's you know, on a third and long, you give
up a backbreaking you know pass, whatever it might be.
And again, Iowa State, those guys that got recruited, you
know that the same head coach is there, that's been there.

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But these guys get recruited, they go into a system
and they already know at the time they get on
the field and see the field what they're supposed to do.
You basically got in a completely different coaching philosophy this
year for our guys. So you got to set the
standard number one. The first game that you're able to
take advantage of a couple of those mistakes or force

(23:17):
them into mistakes, you know it'll build. But you don't
just go into a game like that willy nilly not
being you know, and you throw the ball around, throw
a couple of picks.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
A good team's going to come.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Back and beat the crap out of you if you
do that.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
And they did.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
And even though the score looked worse than what it is,
the score was that far apart because they do the
little things that we.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Don't right, and that and that was the thing going
in right, And that's what even Brent Brennan said that
he said, they don't make mistakes. You know, they're they're
one of the least penalized teams in the country. They
don't turn the ball over. You know, you got to
go in there and you got to be clean and
and Arizona was anything but clean. And the and the
score showed that, because you know, they still they talk

(23:59):
about the fact they you know, a lot of people
say that the offensive line did really well. Noah got protected,
and you know there were not a ton of sacks,
but he had some misthrows. There were some drops and
then a couple of picks, and all that added up
to what, you know, what we saw happen. I don't
think Arizona is as bad as they looked, but you know,
you go into a place like Iowa State and you

(24:19):
know that's going to happen if you do what they did,
which is turning the ball over a bunch of times.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Well, they they've got a foundation, they're very well coached.
They do not make mistakes, and you're at their home field.

Speaker 10 (24:33):
Right recipe for disaster.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
If you make mistakes. Yeah, you know, like there's nothing more.
You know, like imagine you being on the offensive.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Side of the ball.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Your defense creates a huge turnover all of a sudden,
that crowd gets in the game.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
What do you want to do on offense?

Speaker 10 (24:49):
You want to go for a kill shot?

Speaker 5 (24:51):
And they got a couple of those, and.

Speaker 10 (24:52):
They successfully were able to you know.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Whether it's the pass or whatever, like, they were able
to do it at a very high Clif there's a
reason why this team last year was in the Big
Tall Championship game, yes, like, and they put people in
the NFL that it's like that guy with like a
two star coming out of high school, doesn't matter. They
get the guys they want, right attitude, right worth, that
work ethics, They coach them up and then those guys

(25:17):
aren't afraid to go out and play. So you know,
I just think there are not a lot of Iowa
states out there on the schedule remaining, thankfully, And uh,
I just think that once we kind of get on
a roll with the new offense. I think we need
to establish a run game a little bit better against
better teams like that, because we can move the ball.
But then it just comes down to Noah, you know,

(25:39):
making the plays he needs to. I love the fact
that he's using his feet more this year. Thank god
they you know, put that into the whole playbook. And
then our receivers need to get separation and catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Catch the ball, Jake. So all week, I've been saying
that this about Noah, and everybody knows they love Noah
in this town, and YadA, YadA. He's not the same
Noah from two years ago. We know that he's kind
of in between two years ago and last year where
they're still making some weird decisions and making some mistakes.
He's just not the same. The ball's not traveling the
same way. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Well, I think a lot of that had to do
with he came up in the system for more than
a year and then when he got thrust into the
you know, into the.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
Game, he knew where to go.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
Last year, brand new offense, and seemed like it took
ten seconds to hand off the ball. When we wanted
to run the ball again. Have no idea what the
hell we were doing last year. But I like the
fact that Dagy is a much you know. I just
like the offense a lot better than last year. I
don't think you're going to find anyone that says anything
different than that. But I think the leadership. I think

(26:43):
the fact that this guy has really done it at
a high level, and once everyone gets on the same page,
I don't see a reason why this can't click. Maybe
not to the same degree at it two years ago,
because two years.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
Ago we had a bunch of NFL.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Guys on the roster, very good, a very good foundation.
We're still building that technically, like you have a new OC,
a new DC, and you got a bunch of new players,
and so many these players are a lot better that
we got through the transfer portal than I would anticipate it.
Don't ask them to name any names, because I don't
know anyone's name anymore. I'm way too removed from the college.

(27:20):
But the fact of the matter is we're going in
the right direction. And because it's basically starting over from
scratch when it comes to offensive defense, I just think
the kids need to continue to go out play with
the hair on fire, and no one's going to start.
You know, the more he goes through the progression, he's
going to start, you know, making better decisions, better passages,
just because he's going to know the offense and his
receivers better. Like you throw a ball high, you're not

(27:44):
going to have one of the best receivers.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
I've ever seen. Like I mean, I got to.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
The New Mexico game last year. Four touchdowns like three
hundred yards probably the best, one of the best calls
receivers I've ever seen. You throw it up, you know
he can go up and catch it anywhere. We don't
have that luxury. So accuracy's got to be better, obviously,
but just the better decision making will come the longer
that he's in the system.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, you know, I heard a stat and I don't
know how correct this is. I'm just going to throw
it out there anyways. So that I said, I guess
there's been eleven drop passes, and somebody said that if
those eleven passes were caught, no, it would be a
seventy percent passer something like that.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
It's a crazy number.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Doesn't surprise me. Again, the timing you know these guys.
I mean, like half the receivers were catching someone else's
you know, football last year. I know that. You know,
obviously you can get over that eventually, but it's not
something you can do overnight. So, you know, we came
off of bye it looked like the game against Kansas

(28:46):
State last year. I'm hoping that we can just correct what.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
We need to limit the mistakes. We have a good
enough run game.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
We have a running back for not a running back.
We have a quarterback that can use the seat when
he needs to, and that running back room is solid.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Man.

Speaker 10 (29:03):
So as long as we can create.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Turnovers on defense and hold our own, there's no reason
why we can't win a few more games.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Here's the here's the sticker, at least in my mind,
that's special teams. Holy crash, you know what.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
It just sounds like Arizona football over the last thirty years.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
It always comes down to freaking special teams. I don't
I don't understand it.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
You know, you don't have Tyler Luke kickings, you know,
like I just and some of the things you know,
like catching a start, catching a punt on your own,
four or five, just just what the hell this is
stuff that I learned in high school, right, like, just.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
Just cut that crap out and play the percentages.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Do the safe thing on special teams half the time,
unless you need to go all out on a block
or whatever it is. But just be manageable.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yes, that's it. Yeah, do the simple stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And you know when you when you're a team like Arizona,
that's as you say, trying to you know, rebuild this
thing and do something.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Just do the basic, right, do the basic stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
And then if somebody does something outlandish against you, well
good for them.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
But you don't do the dumb stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
And that's that's the part that particularly on special teams,
that's that's been a that's been a killer. You know,
the bad snap on the on the on the first
field goal on that first position. If everyone who makes
that field goal, who knows how they feel after that,
all of a sudden you didn't get to score. They
go down there and they punch you in the face
and and it's on and so you know, things like
that that really uh, you know, you just you got

(30:40):
to fix those things.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
And I I hope they do.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I think they can, and which is why I kind
of have hope that they can still have a you know,
a pretty good season, but dang, you know, you got
to fix those things and they can't be the special
teams have been consistently bad all season long. You know,
we're we're well, we're only four games into it, but but.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
You know what, dang yeah, and this, since is my
first time.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
On this year, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm going
to go back to my main thing.

Speaker 10 (31:09):
I am the ultimate when it.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Comes to thinking positive and just seeing that type of stuff.
So the way I see it, defense looks like they
know what they're doing. We're more aggressive and against bad
teams were actually faring very well.

Speaker 10 (31:25):
Obviously, make a couple of mistakes.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
If they have a guy that you know, makes it
incredible over the shoulder catch when the defensive back literally
is in his face, so be it right. We don't
have the luxury of having two six four corners right now.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Right.

Speaker 10 (31:40):
The other thing is the offensive line looks.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
A lot better, and that's hard, especially when you lose
guys like Big Jonah and then you know, our second
best offensive lineman goes and he's starting at Tennessee. Now
no one looks better, and he's using his feet more
the receivers. You know, overall as a room is better.
The running backs because last year we have Ja Cory
look better, The defensive line looks better, we have more depth,

(32:06):
and honestly, you know, you have Genesis back, you have
Dalton back. You have these guys that have played a
lot of football that are back there anchoring the secondary,
and we've had decent linebacker play. I'm not gonna say
it's great, but like you look across the board, it's
a lot better. What they can't do is what happened
after the Utah game last year, where you lose that next.

Speaker 10 (32:29):
Game and then you just start to slide. Can't have that.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
So what's gonna happen is Oklahoma State's coming in here.
Baton Bruce just lost damn near all their coaching staff.
They have a bunch of guys that are sitting out whatever.
They're gonna take a lot of chances. Just don't give
up any of the crap, you know, because they're gonna try.
They're probably gonna try a couple flee flicker type plays.
And if we get beat because we are, like they're

(32:55):
missing half their team, well guess what's probably gonna happen
after that that's thing you can't come back from. You
have to beat the crap out of this team like
you should. You're going to go in on a high
in your next game, continue to develop, continue to get better,
no days off, and I don't see a reason why
we shouldn't be going bowling and maybe win seven or

(33:17):
eight games. I don't see a reason why you can't.
The Big twelve is not as good as it was
last year. I don't think across the board it's as good.
Have you still have Iowa State, you still have, you know, Utah.

Speaker 10 (33:27):
Et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
I think the top is better, but a lot of
these games should be winnable.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
We have like two minutes left to go to basketball
real quick. I think that's a sport that will make
you happy. I think we'll go to basketball now. I
think it's a sport that will make you happy.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Absolutely, we look really good again, optimist, best rebounder coming back.
You got Mo healthy. You got two big old wings
even though they're freshmen coming in. Delhi looks better. We're
gonna have awesome point guard play because Jaydon Bradley is
like the ultimate constant. You got Buries coming in, he'll
probably average between thirteen to fifteen points, so I'm not

(34:08):
gonna give you an exact amount. CoA pete who's basically
like the energizer Bunny on steroids. And even though he
doesn't have like a polished offensive game, he's going to
get a lot of his points by running the court,
overpowering people, being quicker and more athletic. He doesn't need
some sort of skyhooks, some sort of unstoppable shot. He's
gonna be able to eat up most fours because he's

(34:28):
either going to be more physically imposing faster, and he's
gonna probably beat them on the break every single time.
So I think we're gonna be fine. I like having
a solid backup point guard who isn't five to nine,
and this freshman class looks good man.

Speaker 10 (34:44):
Yeah, I mean, I'm all for it.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
I think the big thing is gonna be Jadan Bradley,
you know, a veteran point guard to run this team
that's got some good young guys on it. I think
that's gonna be everything about this team.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Well, that's the best way to bring along young guys.
Have that constant point guard there in your ear. The
guy's been there done that. He's been through the battles.
A couple of years ago. You saw how dominant he
was against Clemson, even though the rest of the team
didn't look very good. Last year, again, I think he
ran out of gas a little bit towards the end
of the year because he didn't have anyone to spell him.
But I mean, and then look at.

Speaker 10 (35:19):
The sheer sides of these guys. And I'm not just
talking about.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
How tall they are, like those wings.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Are big, like they look like I forgot who.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Was telling me. They they went to a practice. They said,
Dwayne Aristo looks like he's in his third year in
the NBA. That's how big he is.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
They have all three.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yes, yeah, so body them up. Beat the hell out
of teams, make them give up in the second half,
get to the line, wear people down, and then get
them the fast break.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
We're going to score those Houston. That's you, Hey, Jake.
We'll talk to you in a couple of weeks after
the BYU game to see if you're still okay.

Speaker 10 (35:55):
I'm still going to be an optimist. I might not
be happy.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
About it, but I'm all right.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Hey, good to talk to you, Jake.

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Speaker 1 (40:06):
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Speaker 2 (40:18):
Hey, welcome back to my on the ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight. I'm Steve Rivera and with
me today is chicken Sauce. You got Ray here, we
got Zach On the other side, where did you talk
to Oklahoma State football?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
You know, it's good to talk to Jake about you know,
what he thinks of this team.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
And each week we think this, Okay, this game, we're
gonna learn a lot about him, and we're still you
don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
You don't learned anything. We still don't know. You're not
gonna learn anything this weekend. Yeah, Oklahoma State might know.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Well, you'll learn something if they If Oklahoma State comes
in and wins, then yeah, Brent can he can't lose
this game tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
You cannot lose us game. Yeah, it would be better.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
And I don't care if they win it by a touchdown,
you know, because I mean we've seen you know, we
saw a number of times with Arizona, right, they get,
you know, fire coach in the middle of the year
to the new coach.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
And they'd win a game, but then they wouldn't do
anything after that.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Did everybody does?

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Kish?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Did it?

Speaker 4 (41:11):
And what's his name? The other guys, let's go there.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
No, is there some hope of that because you get
emotions going blah blah blah.

Speaker 11 (41:19):
I think there's some hope for sure. I think the
big thing really is the curiosity with it. I mean,
meetrim Or, our new INTROIM guy came out and said
before last week he was like, well, I got a
bunch of buddies who I coached with on Baylor, so
he couldn't fully open it up. So this is the
first week we see a full Doug Meachum offensive playlist.
And then Clint Bowen, I mean, he spent time as

(41:42):
a DC at Kansas and you know he took over
on Tuesday, so he even said to himself, He's like,
I'm not fully prepared.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I'll be honest.

Speaker 11 (41:49):
He was already looking at Arizona because he was the
offensive a quality control guy, so he was looking at defenses.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
But I don't know.

Speaker 11 (41:56):
I think there is the hope of this is kind
of the first fully free week, but there's still so
much curiosity with it.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
But what I mean, what.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
About the players though?

Speaker 3 (42:05):
You know that we saw the guy, you know, one
of the guys going into the transfer portal and stuff
like that.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
You know, the one thing you always hope is that
you hold a team together. As far as that goes, we.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Gonna call okay, hellow you on the air and one
the ball, who's this.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Up?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Vic?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I want to smack you in the head. Why for
yelling at me last week for saying that I.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
Didn't want to you just said, you just said we
can't win this game by a touchdown. If we win
this game by a touchdown, Brendan better start packing and
you too, You're gonna be kicked out. I've been here
to win this game by by two three touchdowns. We

(42:49):
got just have to and and and I agree with Jay,
I mean, we win this game somehow, still that b
y U game and it's still a seven eight win season.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
So point, did you say I've seen enough last week?

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Will? You texting me? He was, Yeah, I was, and.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
Probably about the third quarter, I was really depressed. And
I will start throwing my bubble heads at the TV
left anything.

Speaker 10 (43:14):
I missed, but but it uh.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
It And once again just being a you know that
fan that believes that, uh, I thought they were going
to show up a lot better. Yeah, man, and would
have a chance to win. I really did well.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
I did too.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
That's the only thing I disagreed with Jake Fisher on
is uh Noah and Steve, I hate to admit it,
but I agree with you. He's low high everything and
and that's.

Speaker 10 (43:44):
Just not good.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
He's better than that.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Well, first of all, he's got to get he's trying
to get used to a catch radius that's a little
less than what team at gave him last year. Right,
he's got he's got to hit these guys in the
hands you need. I don't know, but look, he threw
I mean he threw some good he threw some bad ones.
But he's also got guys who are not catching passes
that were getting caught previously only went he through the

(44:08):
team act or the year before with h with what's
his name?

Speaker 10 (44:12):
But Jay once again, he's been doing.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
This all summer.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
These I agree with Steve again, how long? How long
do you need when you're when you were out there
coaching at the Gregory or whatever that was, you know,
if your second basement can turn it or pick.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
It or not.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, well today, but they talk about the fact that
there's not you know, you need more games, and then
he's still you know, they've played four games and he
still needs they need more games. These guys are very young,
so look, I expect more from them. I think they
should be doing better than they have been. But I
also understand that some of these guys are still getting
their feet wet, you know for the first time. Remember

(44:48):
those A couple of the receivers didn't even play the
first game or two.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
So so all summer long to three months in the
summer and fall practice.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Come on, Vicu, you you know that practice is way
different from doing it in a game. When you got guys,
you know, getting ready to take your head off. You
gotta rush and there's nothing like, you know, getting that
experience in a game.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
No matter how much work you do in the summer,
it always helps.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
I'm not saying it doesn't help, and they need to
do that work, but it's not until you get hit
and you know, you know you're getting into a game
that that you start to see how much more and
work you got to do and how.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Good you got to be.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
So you know.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
You should you you should be ready. You should be
ready by now.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I agree with both of you. Guys are right because
you have time. Like you say, Vick and Jay, you're
right right and clearly, if you.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Don't do the work in the off season, then you're
not going to be good. But you can do the
work in the off season, but you can still take it.
Still takes some adjustment time. At some point you're in there.
But maybe and maybe maybe game five is the year.
Maybe Game five is the week.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Who knows. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well, at some point you can't say, well, have a
new coordinator again, you know, do you have this and that?
At some point you guess, okay.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Well, it's like when they say freshman is no longer freshman,
he's a sophomore because he's played enough games.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
And we're getting to that point. I agree, I.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Mean we are.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
And you know, we should see you know, they're back
at home now against the team they should handle. Let's
see what they look like if these things, these pieces.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Come together and they're all, you know, more comfortable with
each other and all that.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
Well, I hate to fight with the callers, but Rick
said four points and we went by only four points
out here, I'm gonna go back Brandon's bag myself.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
And last thing.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
I'll let you guys go real quick. But uh, but
Jay Dodgers got a new bullpen man, so we're uh,
I'm kind of pumped.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
They got one new guy.

Speaker 10 (46:46):
No, so we're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Be throwing in the seventh.

Speaker 7 (46:49):
We got Sheehann and Kershaw. Then in the eighth, they'll
probably go to Bonda and and trinny in and then
in the ninth it looks like Rokie's gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Yeah, I'm the the Rokie gives me hope. But I'm
I'm I'm I'm withholding my my enthusiasm for this until
I see the bullpen pitching better in the late innings,
because even those two reds go.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Okay, I don't want to he be's his house, he's
living with me about We'll see you. Thank you, big
We got another call. Hello, you're on the air nine
of the ball. Who's just Chloe Steve? This is done.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Well, not too much.

Speaker 23 (47:37):
I agree with big Man, you know. And even last year,
Mac wasn't the only one I was going to yep.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
You know, if he if it's.

Speaker 23 (47:49):
A back shoulder throw, who cares who whose shoulder it is.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
You know, if it's a slant, you can't be behind him.
It doesn't matter who it was, you know.

Speaker 10 (48:00):
And we know that uh t, Mac had to.

Speaker 23 (48:03):
Make some of those cats and so and then the
year before I wonder how much better Jacob Cowing made
made made no one look.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
They made it. Those two guys made him look really.

Speaker 23 (48:17):
Good because at that time I think Cowing was a
better receiver than Tea.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
In my opinion, he was.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
He won.

Speaker 23 (48:26):
He's more explosive.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
But anyway, I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Gonna be one.

Speaker 23 (48:31):
I'm gonna be one of the ones that braves the
the bright sunshine. Tomorrow should be a good day.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, it's not supposed to be super hot. I hope fans,
you know, realize that it's supposed to be in the
at kickoff. It's supposed to be in the low eighties,
which is I mean, the sun is still hot when you're.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Sitting in it.

Speaker 23 (48:51):
I doubt that it's gonna be that. I think for
those of us in the seats, it's gonna be in
the nineties.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
It's still gonna be hot, right because the sun's gonna
beaten on you.

Speaker 23 (49:01):
I finally figured out why Rick wants to talk about baseball.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Tell me Yankee fan, Well, once they lose, he won't
be talking about it anymore.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
Oh No, it won't matter.

Speaker 23 (49:14):
It won't matter because I have i'm friends that I
played golf with, and nobody talks.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
About baseball already.

Speaker 23 (49:20):
Every thank you, thank you, oh man, They'll go, oh man,
this guy.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
The Yankees just brought up from double all right, no,
I think we're gonna have I think.

Speaker 23 (49:37):
We're gonna Tomorrow's a turn the corner type game. I
agree with with Vic that it has to be more
than a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Yeah it has.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Well, yeah, you hope it is, sure of course. Okay,
all right, don thanks a bunch man.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
We gotta go down, thank you.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
No, I you know again, we do. I mean you
want that.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Well, this is a game where you can have and
hope to have styles.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
But but again, let's not forget this is still a
big twelve team. As bad as they may be, here's
still a big twelve team with big twelve talents.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Zach, is it eleven straight or twelfth straight? Let's see
we to power forward?

Speaker 11 (50:12):
Yeah, we lost nine in a row last year, so
now it's eleven straight.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
You know, eleven straight. I couldn't believe that how how
uh polarizing was was gonna be in the city. You know,
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (50:26):
It kind of got to a point I just felt
like where because of how long he'd been there. I
mean you got to think, even when he was still
winning their work, we're still people calling for his head.
But yeah, I don't know it was polarizing in the
sense of everyone wanted to point the blame, you know
what I mean, But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
We got a call, allow, you're on the air and
on the wall. Who's this? I Steve him, Hey, Jim,
what do you got?

Speaker 24 (50:53):
Well, I can't figure out why we don't run the
ball more. It's really agonizing the way bad Madi rip
off twenty three yard run one minute into the game
and then from there he got like ten touches and.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I don't know what, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 (51:20):
Well, I think I think last week was just a
very poor game for an old Fafita, very poor.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I agree with.

Speaker 24 (51:34):
I looked at with seven fifty two left to go
in the third quarter, we had thrown the ball twenty
eight times with seventeen completions for a grand total of
one hundred and four yards five point two yards per catch. Yeah,
the running game was averaging six and a half games

(51:55):
a yard yards a carry.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, well, we talked you did. Yeah, well, we talked
about that.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I mean, clearly they want that, you know, they're gonna
have to do that, and I you know me, who
knows what they also got behind and stuff like that,
So who knows what you know what was going on there.
But a game like this with Oklahoma State, you know
they're gonna want to you know, control the ball, keep
their keep the offense on the field and and all that.

Speaker 24 (52:23):
You can't change your standards from one game to the next.
Are you change your standards of performance from one game
to the next.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So jim real quick, because we got to go. If
they win by seven, are you okay? If they win
by fourteen, are you better? What's the spread? What's it?

Speaker 24 (52:39):
I don't think that. I don't think that proves anything.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
No, okay, just win.

Speaker 24 (52:45):
I just don't think gold Colafeta can see down field
well enough to make accurate throws.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah maybe, Yeah, you couldn't say that two years ago
I did.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
But who knows, you know, yeah, who knows?

Speaker 24 (52:58):
Okay, thanks from the flats that he came from white out,
wide out and again you had no you had t
mac you know the wingspan?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Okay, all right, thank you. You gotta take a break
here real quick and come back.