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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, good actually, doon, everybody, welcome to I on the
Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.
You're Dave Silver. You're back. I'm back.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, we got we got somebody at the controls, which
means that we should go pretty smoothly. Yesterday was a
little bumpy. Yeah, it's at the start, all right, get
off the block is pretty.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Bad, but it's not about how you started, about how
you finish.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh look at that. I put that on a bubber sticker.
After I get crashed, he put you know, put a
scratching my den. Good afternoon, everybody. I'm a forty year
old man.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm a man. I'm forty.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, now he's fifty eight, fifty seven, fifty seven, seventeen
years like this week was or last week was the
seventeen year on a issue of that of that rent.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, one of the most most famous postgame situations.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Right, we saw we knew who they thought that we are.
What it was Dennis Green, Yes, Cardinals you playing it
within the game.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
That's a.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
That'll be a show, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, so what's the name got to what's the name?
Gundy fired?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Gundy fired? After how many years? Twenty one twenty one?
Let me say this, sorry, because that stuff happens. But
I don't cry for millionaires. No, what are they paying him?
Fifteen million buyouts? He's making let's take a tenth of
that six million just this year. So you know, that's
what happens when you're a coach and you don't you
don't produce, and you have some bad losses against teams

(01:45):
you've like never lost to Tulsa badly, things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Just what he.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, he's another one of these. Could go to the
TV situation. Guys, he's got a lot of charisma.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Is that how easy it is to get a TV job?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Dave?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Especially well for your form.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I was never a former coach, so I was just
hanging on by what with whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I could pull off? Back to you, Biff, I was that.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Guy, but I wasn't the coach guy that they could
just bring in, you know, as the analyst.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
But to you, I can get he said, whether are
we on the air? Yes? Is this thing go.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Hey, well keep everybody hope to get some calls from
you guys. Five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty.
I'm Steve, and today we have a coctic group. You're
gonna have to help me with something. Ray, So we're
gonna have Ray Suarez here from PEMA College. He's the
sports information guy. Uh, he'll let us know what's going
on at that place. That's pretty up and coming. Right.

(02:39):
It continues to be one of the top GC's in
the country for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I mean every time you turn around where they seem
to have a team playing for a national championship or
highly regarded.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So you got here, and you got here in Dusty
Tucson nineteen eighty three. Uh, I got here in eighty seven.
That's just barely out of p It's not Dusty anymore.
But what was the impression of PEMA back in those days?
I mean again, did you even cover.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Them off there?

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
You know we covered with baseball, oh, because they were
really good. Excuse me, baseball always been rich all day
was a coach. In fact, we actually went to the
College World Series, Junior College World Series, and Grand Junction.
I'm not sure if it's there still I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Might be I don't think so, but it could be.
We'll ask him.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
It was one of those crazy trips where back in
the day, satell no and the fact that we even
went I don't I remember we flew into Grand Junction somehow,
like maybe on America West Airlines. Yeah, it was back
in the day and cover them and they did really well,
and like Gilbert Heredia was one of their pitchers who
wound up going on to the u of A, going
on to Major League Baseball eventually. So Pima baseball has

(03:46):
always been kind of, you know, sitting there waiting to
be good, and some years there they pop.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
There was no question that it was a sleeping giant
because now it's kind of near that giant.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Yeah, and then softball later, you know, they won a
National chestation Stacy, Yeah, a lot of two. So they
still have a lot of Tucson players, which has always
been kind of fun. Sometimes you know them from high
school and next thing you know they're PEMA having success.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Is that day we got to get Stacey Ipsen. I
don't think she's ever maybe maybe once ever been on the.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Show one time. Maybe she'd be a good co host.
For you. Yeah, yeah, she would probably I got to her.
She knows a lot about me.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
She played baseball right in high school, as you know,
a very rare female player. Yeah, she has a few
national titles under her belt. Yeah, you have a pie.
You think she went a national title there? Yeah? Have
you ever been out there a pie Prescott? I've been
to Prescott if I've been in.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
The camp, and I went to camp up there, and
back when I was from they used to be very
powerful in baseball, right, and it was like getting those
T shirts and they're the rough riders I think, and
go taking those T shirts back home and it was
very cool.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I mean back in the day, you'd get a lot
of players drafted right out of junior college. I don't
know if that happens as much anymore since there's other
other ways to get out there. But yeah, I mean,
you have a pie had a number of guys picked.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And then in the second hour, Ray, you're gonna have
to help me here, mister Walters.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I think it is John Walter.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
John Walters, he's the voice of the Iowa State Radio
so he'll be coming on here to talk about this
week's game. Kind of they're equivalent to Brian Jefferies.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Good. Yeah, so just a good just a precursor of
what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
We were just talking before this show started about how
many good games are this week and stuck right in
the middle of that, yeah, little primetime game on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right right by the way, We're gonna have the only
huddle on Saturday one o'clock here for the hour with
Lamont and Ricky. Although Ricky is gonna be on the road,
he'll be our correspondent from Iowa.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
What does Ricky do when he goes on the road.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Do you think he does the same thing he does here?
Kiss his babies and shake's hands and hands and hello,
my name is Ricky, honey. You know, how can I
get one of those jobs? And they pay well? I
know I saw that how many all Americans?

Speaker 3 (05:52):
It wasn't her first round draft pick, didn't playing, Sorry,
your resume doesn't cut the most.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Didn't do nearly as much as he did, so good
for him.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
But a good ambassador in.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Chuck, Chuck, that's another guy that Hello, shake your head baby.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's good that we have people who can do that,
and a living.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Hello Steve rivera Yeah, you're in the corner. There's the broom,
here's there's a check. Two bucks. Yeah, so that's what
he'll be doing. So he'll be calling in, gonna be
on the show. He'll be on the show, calling from
out there as they get to the to the stadium.
So we'll have lamont uh myself. Some coaches interviewed and

(06:30):
Ricky for the away version, Way game version of Hell.
And I won't say I've said it one type before, right,
welcome to the Yeah, not really.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Welcome to love. I remember that.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
You know, we were talking about Gundy because Oklahoma States
coming in here next week, so they'll have somebody else
coaching besides him.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I think for sure he didn't want to come here
in and scared him off.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
On in October what New York City.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
He's got a pretty good He had a two and
one record against the U of A, well the the
Alma Bole which happened to.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, actually might oh they beat there zon
A twenty ten.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
They killed him thirty six to ten, and then the
next year Arizona went up there again and got wiped
out thirty seven to fourteen. But then they came here
in twenty twelve and Arizona whooped him fifty nine to thirty.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
That was rich rod That Rich rod Win, Rich rod Win,
I think so I remember that game.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, the twenty see that was Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
The twenty eleven season was stoops is his final season
right in mid season, so that may have been one
of his last games probably.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, So we'll see what happens Arizona. In fact, they
had a little a little graphic last night. I think
I saw it where Oklahoma State had an eight percent
chance to beat the Arizona here, which which was probably
the lowest or the best for Arizona of all the
games they had left, you know, seventeen percent. So I

(08:06):
think they're thinking well highly of Arizona against that.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
They were looking like at Oklahoma State's future schedule and
how he might fare if.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
He's around right, right, all of them were underdogs until
all of them were on.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yes, well it's good. I mean, it's you know, it's
an interesting job. There's I was listening to something actually
as I was coming in, you know, who would they
go for? And then they were clamoring for somebody from
Oklahoma States. So there's a lot a lot of coaches
that are out there that they would appreciate the small
townness of Stillwater. You don't have the big cities of
you know, even Tucson is bigger than still.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Here's your kicker, Dave. In fact, I heard this over
the weekend, in which I should have known. But in
twenty nineteen guests who died? Who Boo?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Is it Pickens? Is it bo Yeah? He's the one.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
He was funneling that baby, and now he's no longer
funneling that.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
He's gone.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, you every school needs that dude. You know,
Texas Tech has a few of those dudes, so you
know a lot of the Texas schools, But Arizona I
don't know if it has that dude.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well, not to speculate, maybe Jim Clicking get involved.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Right, isn't he Oklahoma?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you can say here
Arizona always.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Would be surprising because I remember again going to that
Alamobile after the game and coming in the locker room
and stuff like that. There was your boy bo Pickens
what his name was?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah? Yeah, Pickens wasn't and Jim Click was with him.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think played Monopoly, but.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I bet you five dollars I can walk faster than you.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
That's what they were.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
That was the t booon Pickens. But I said, Moses Jackson, No, No,
the guys on the radio we're saying, yeah, you know,
they're gonna probably go after one of our former players
who's now like assistant coaches things like that, and they're
familiar with a Yoklahoma State.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know who coached there, I think as recently his
last year because I had him on the show was
Charlie Dickey.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Dick he was an assistant there. Yeah, you know, offensive
online coach.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I think I think he's somewhere else, isn't I'm not
too sure. You what you you have the handy Danny
Google right there in front of you.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
But yeah, he was. He was there with I know
he was there at one point. Yeah what I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, you got like four minutes. Okay, so talk we'll
get ahold of races here in a second. Anything else
that you can afford to talk about before breaking news.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
In fact, is a professional looking for you. Charlie Dickey
is at Ohio State?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Now did he? What was he doing there? He's offensive
Wine Coast?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh wow, what a great move jump before they jump
you Because he was he was getting you know Clom State. Yeah,
any profession's looking for you.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Uh bueller bler, Yeah, I'm playing hooky today. Good that
you're here.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
You're cheating back to him, just for a second. How
much you think he donated to Oklahoma State in his life?

Speaker 8 (10:55):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
In lifetime? Hundred million? Oh? No, way more? Oh go.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Sorry photo. I don't have any friends who'll give you
the answer.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
How about one billion? One who has one billion dollars?
He's got a lot of oil down there or Texas whatever,
I need.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Cass prices to go down. He's donated a billion.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah, I mean, go get Barry Sanders. He's a good
Lokalahoma State. He doesn't have a billion dollars. And I'm
sure he doesn't want to come. Oh you mean to Yeah,
you mean to donate. But you know this better than me.
And who's that talking to somewhere?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Maybe last week with all the with all the just
Arizona's an example in other schools, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
And you know this because you went out and chased it. Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Former former athletes of schools don't pay back the school.
They don't I mean payback, They don't donate the from
the place they became famous.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
For Does that make sense? It makes sense. It's true.
We've kind of used that story along the line of
some of the pro football players and basketball players who
have made a lot of money and they go play
in those cities and they do give back in most
cases in those cities, you know, once they become successful.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean some do go come back. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I mean, here I'm looking at t Boon. You know,
Tiban was an alum of Oklahoma State, you know, in
the fifties.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh that's what it was, you know, football player. I
don't think he was a football but he was an
alum and that's what dedicated alum. And that's who you
went after, right.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
We went after.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Alums, not necessarily athletes, not me.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I mean, the.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Athletic departly does if they really want money, right, And
there's those guys to Steve Kerr, the Furorks of the
world give so some of those guys, I'm sure, well, damon,
he just you know, kind of anonymously does the stuff
a lot of more anonymous because the don't want to
be lot.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Of people are that way. Many people are that way.
So that was great, and you know, the people who
receive those gifts were extremely grateful.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, very nice. Yeah, yeah, no question. You know.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Now it's like, who's my two hundred thousand dollars? I
want my two dollars. I want my two hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I mean they renamed the stadium for him in twenty
years ago, so it's been a long time.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
He's been giving a lot of money for a long time.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right, Well, coincided with his arrival there, right, he said
twenty one years that he was there.

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Speaker 1 (17:25):
This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Want to take part in the show call out Steve
now went five to two oh four one six seventy
four for Dy.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Welcome back to Why on the Ball here on Block
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Dave Silver. We
got ready behind the mic over there and now we
have Ray Swatis from PEMA College.

Speaker 11 (17:47):
Ray, how you doing doing good?

Speaker 8 (17:50):
How you guys doing Thanks for having me on today.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Sure I want to call the bosses and say you're
not on. It's going to take you off the clock
right now.

Speaker 8 (17:58):
This is just man, I don't think they'll by it.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Hey, welcome, Hey you're you've been at PEMA How long though?

Speaker 8 (18:05):
Oh? Man thirteen years started h February twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I'd like to say Pima's surge coincided with your employment,
but but it's it's come a long way, dude. I
mean you've been part of that too in disseminating the message.

Speaker 8 (18:23):
Yeah, it's it's. I mean, I've I've really loved my
time here, you know, And every every year, it just
seems the teams just get better and better and just
more more exciting recaps for me to write and more
exciting postings. And we've just gotten more people involved with
with athletics as well as far as pictures, and you know,

(18:46):
more and more students helping me out with video and
graphics and stuff. So it's it's been a lot of
fun watching this department grow.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
What are some of the early early season highlights around
around the college.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
Early season highlights, Well, our soccer teams are killing it
right now. They're they're both facing a tough test tonight
at Scottsdale. But on the guys side, they've won five
straight and their last their last four wins have been shutouts,
so they've outscored opponents eighteen to zero in the last

(19:21):
four games. And you know, on the on the women's side,
they've won four straight and they've outscored their opponents twenty
seven to one in the last four games. So I mean,
I don't I don't care how good or how how
you know bad their their opponents are. I mean, outscoring
opponents twenty seven to one is pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So you grew up here, right, yes, so what was
your oppont raised? Well, what was your impression? I asked
this of Dave because we've been around a long time.
So I we got here in the eighties. Given that
you've been here a long time, the Pemala has come
a long way. Back in the day, it was kind
of this sleeping giant or whatever. Now it's just part
of the giants.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah, and you know, I think I think what's been
really fun and you know, really rewarding for everybody in
the department is that more and more people are taking notice.
I mean, there's always there's always work to do. You know,
there's always somebody that says, you know, oh, I didn't
know Pima had a had a soccer team or a
basketball team. But I think those conversations are are becoming,

(20:28):
you know, fewer and far between. You know, more people
are saying, oh, man, you know, all your basketball team's
doing really well, and you know the coach Peabody and
coach hold House and coach Cosgrove, coach Valise, you know,
everybody is just doing such a great job over there,
you know so, and you know we we love hearing
that for sure.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
I was going to say when, you know, kind of
when I got here, baseball, maybe softball, but baseball was
always really good, and they every once in a while
something else would pop. Right now, like you said, you've
got I don't know six or seven sports that are
nationally ranked. They're getting to national tournaments. I mean, it's
going to be kind of the heyday of PEMA athletics.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I would guess.

Speaker 11 (21:08):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
There's been some tough decisions on my part on where
to go to. You know, last year was a great
example of that with with basketball because I traveled with
the men's team and you know, they were they were undefeated.
I'm like, well, you know, an undefeated team I got
to see I got to see what happens at the
national tournament. And and the women's team, you know, they

(21:30):
also had a great season. They won their Region one
Division two championship as well, and they advanced all the
way to the National Championship game. So I'm you know,
I'm like, oh, what do I do? Should I?

Speaker 11 (21:43):
Should I go, you.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
Know, to the National championship game where the women are
or do I stay here? That was that was a
tough decision. But thankfully, you know, I got to see
the live stream for it, and you know, I was
took some pictures through my computer screen, you know, so
I can do a quick post on social media. You know,
the ladies, the ladies have done done great and you know,

(22:06):
here's their their runner up trophy from the national tournament.
It wasn't the best quality of picture being from a
computer screen, but it was better than nothing, for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
So you've been here thirteen years. How many ads have
you gone through?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And I asked, because, uh, all this success has gone
through a number of them.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
Mm hmm. This is this is my this is my
third athletic director because Edgar Sotho hired me, and and
then Jim Monico stepped in after after Edgar went to
the Desert Vista campus and now Ken Hank me.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, all successful, all the.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
All those guys have been great to work for.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Good coaches in the right, and they're right, and they're
in their own right as well. I mean I remember
covering Jim Monico back in the day when he was
a Desert View is a head coach.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, okay, I mean coach football.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
Yeah, I remember interviewing I remember interviewing Jim whenever I
was a young high school sports reporter at the Tucson
Citizen Man. The first time I interviewed him, that guy
was intimidating for sure.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yea, that is New York or Boston, one of those accents.
It's pretty it's pretty fun to listen to Boston.

Speaker 11 (23:21):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Gonna I was gonna ask you about I was reading
some stuff about n I L and PEMA. Is that
still a thing? How's it going?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (23:30):
So we so this year and actually I I you know,
posted a link to this company called open Doors that
helps us out with with n I L deals And
it's on our our PEMA aztecs dot com website, and
you know, it takes you to a link where our
student athletes can create their profiles and uh, you know

(23:53):
and just just see what they see what they can do,
see what see who approaches them, or see if there's
a business or something that they can work with, you know,
to get their get their name out there.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
How's that gone, do you know?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Not?

Speaker 11 (24:10):
Not too much.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
I think it's gone okay. I think some student athletes
are are taking advantage of it, but I mean it's
it's still brand new to our department. So I I
think it's you know, just like a lot of things,
the more you know, the more student athletes use it,
the more people see how it's being used, I think
the more comfortable future student athletes will be and go,

(24:32):
oh okay, I can do that still.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Getting most of your athletes from Tema.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
County, Yeah, yeah, majority majority are from southern Arizona, from
Pema County. We've you know right now, or one of
our top men's soccer players is from Southpoint Leo Gutietis.
He leads the team with nine goals. We got on

(24:58):
the women's side, yeah, yes, or vant this from Tucson
High and Sam Mendez And actually we we got.

Speaker 11 (25:06):
A uh uh.

Speaker 8 (25:08):
A women's player, Meredith Gallis. She went to go play
at the University of South Dakota and she came back
and she was.

Speaker 11 (25:17):
From Walden Grove High School.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
So I think I'm noticing this a little bit more,
you know, each year. Is that you know, if a
student athlete wants to leave Tucson and they decide to go,
you know, they go for a year and if the
experience isn't what quite what they expected, and they're you know,
they they want to come back.

Speaker 11 (25:39):
They know that Pima is here for him.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
So I've not I've noticed that a lot with you know,
not not just.

Speaker 11 (25:45):
In this situation, but also with baseball and softball as well.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Do you monitor of the kids, how many student athletes
you have there all in all the sports?

Speaker 8 (25:55):
I would say, I would say we're I don't know
the exact number, but I think we're definitely over three hundred.
And I mean our track and field team alone is
I think at one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Really well, so all those three hundred and twenty whatever
it is, how many of them actually go well, not actually,
but how many of them go to the next level?

Speaker 8 (26:14):
Wow, let's see, I have three hundreds, I would say, Wow.
I would say probably about eighty eighty five percent.

Speaker 11 (26:24):
Wow, I mean yeah, I would say that.

Speaker 8 (26:27):
And that number is has grown, has grown a lot
over the last few years as well, because I think
it's it goes into again that more people are taking
notice of pema's programs and the success that they've had,
and they they just see, Wow, you know, Pima's putting
out a great product and these kids are really working hard,

(26:50):
and that's what we want as part of our programs
as well.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Where did Dan Marty's sun go? Eventually?

Speaker 8 (26:58):
He went to University of North Dakota.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Did he kind of go back? Where was he before
South Dakota?

Speaker 11 (27:05):
Gosh? Before that?

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Oh no, he was in Michigan. He was at somewhere
in Michigan. Was he did he follow his debts for somewhere? Okay?
So he went to Well he was really good. How
about what about the other kids? There was like three
or four of those kids. What high school? Mountain View or.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
Gosh, let's see, I think uh Goshen J.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Cohen, J.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
Gonzalez and west Ball went to Colorado State Pueblo.

Speaker 11 (27:31):
I think that's a Division two school.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, you know what, we interviewed the unlab.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
Yeah, yeah, and Gabe Gabe Oldham went to the University
of Denver, Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So that's a pretty good school, pretty strong school. So
a lot of those guys went somewhere.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Yeah, so the men's basketball team, Oh go ahead, what
about the women? The women let's see, Oh man, where did.

Speaker 10 (28:00):
Gosh?

Speaker 8 (28:00):
I forgot where some of those girls went. But I
know that we we got our we we got our
our big, big time, big time All American back this year.
Kylie Sowers Miller, she's she's back here again this year.
And our for general as well, Alicia Nelson. So yeah,
the girls, the girls will be be really good this

(28:22):
year as well. With just with those two.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, they're practicing, I assume if they started yet.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, so yeah, men's and women's basketball, they start officially
start practicing October first. So that's actually one of the
things I'm working on here, and you know, putting out
on social media the next couple of days as the
men's and women's basketball schedules, you know, the graphics of
their schedules.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, we had ras on last week and Hughes you've
kind of already started, you know, doing other stuff since August.

Speaker 11 (28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think there's a certain number
of hours I think that they can practice. But then
after October first, they can you know, get into get
into their their regular routine for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's good.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Brian's had, you know, quite a career. You know, he's
never never been down. It's always been consistent winner. So
it's good to have, aren't you? Officially in his oxarage
I used to be anymore, everybody's on the Hunt's we go.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
He's not very hard to find.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
No, no, no, So so what does that look like?
Is there?

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Given that you know he's an intense coach, A very
good one, is there? I don't know, pressure and maybe
you're not the one to ask, but he did so
well last year. What's it looked like this year in
terms of maybe doing the same thing again?

Speaker 12 (29:44):
Well, you know, like.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
I, like I said earlier, they lost all five of
their starters. You know, all those guys are gone, so
but they they still got a pretty good, pretty good
core coming back with Mason Hunt, he was the Freshman
Conference Freshman of the Year last year, and uh Isaac
Isaac Johnson from Oakland and Kaylen Brown. Isaac's really really athletic,

(30:09):
and I think he'll get a he'll get a bigger
role this year. I think he was maybe the second
guy to come off the bench, and then uh, Kaylen
Brown's just the defensive force. In the paint, So I think, uh,
I think all three of those guys, you know, their
roles will will be huge this year.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Okay, you guys get no. I was gonna say.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
It's always just kind of exciting to get the season started.
And you know, it's like a year round thing for
PEM almost. They've been pretty good in all the all
the sports in the winter, in the spring.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Before you before we go, what's the rankings of the
men's and women's soccer teams?

Speaker 11 (30:43):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (30:44):
So, the rankings just came out. The updated rankings just
came out yesterday, and so the the women's team is
up to number nine and the men's team has stayed
at number seven I think the last three weeks.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay, tell cause Real to move up a little to
get him started.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah yeah, okay, Ray, thanks for joining.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
I'll be sure to tell him.

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Why start now? Right?

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Thanks? Ray?

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Yeah, thank you, thank you, David.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Guys, have a good one you too.

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Speaker 3 (35:48):
Good talk to Ray real quick. Oh the stuff going
on at Pima, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
I mean, like I was saying it seems like they
have something going all all year, from the from the
fall sports through the winter does the spring, and they've
had some good, good teams, especially the last like five years,
it seems.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, and they were pretty good in football too. Too
bad that I had to go away.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah that was a it's a whole different story, but yeah,
I mean junior college football and the whole state is
kind of in jeopardy and Pima kind of got caught
up in all that too.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Right, right, And it's not strange, but you know, Skurton
did a great job over there, taking him to that
bowl game Monaco and uh and our guy who won
who won the state title at Micah, Pat Nugents, Pat Nugents,
all these you know, all these names that coached at
the at that the location, the state in Tucson, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a good idea while
it was going, and it was kind of strange how
it all worked out.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
But you wouldn't think it was going to be that good,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
You know, they thought thought about it for years and
years and finally they got a team and finally it
was kind of you know, split away from the main
campus and they played out East and yeah, it was
a little bit bizarre, but you know, it worked.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Right, and it was probably one of the more stable
schools in the state, given that they wanted to get
rid of it everywhere else but here.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, speaking of stable, there is in men's basketball schedule
kind of officially released today big surprises.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
You could have told me that last month and I
thought it was done, but oh well, you go ahead,
go ahead and tell me.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Oh no, I mean it's it's kind of what we've
known all along.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Okay, so you're let me see my boy, my boy
Bruce he was, he did yesterday the story of the
women's schedule. Bruce is the now the official basketball writer
of the Arizona Daily Star.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, any age, any any sex that's going to be there,
you go.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Well, starts with Florida, of course, in Las Vegas, the
fish Real game. No, I mean, they've got those three
exhibition games at McHale October third, the eighteenth, and the
twenty seventh, and then you know they go to they
have the Florida game, and then back home for a
couple of easy ones and then they go to UCLA
or to La to play Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
So not going to the What day is that, like
the fourteenth? It's the fourteenth, it's a Friday. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not going to that, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
And then the Yukon game is the right in the
middle of the week on Wednesday, the nineteenth, ins at
Yukon on her home campus.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
That's right. I was gonna say if it was somewhere,
I'm not going to the home court. Yeah. That should
be a pretty fun game.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
And then in December, of course, Auburn comes in. We
have no idea what that's going to look like. With
their coach leaving that there's taking over. I wonder if
the dad will be here because he's close, he's close
to Tommy, So maybe just to make the trip maybe,
I don't know, but to stay out of the Yeah,
I'm like, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, David, Yeah, yeah,
why why you kind of what kind of make you
more pressure for your son?

Speaker 7 (38:36):
You know.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
The other big non conference San Diego State in Phoenix
on Saturday, December twentieth. So that's at the Phoenix Arena,
which I guess it's the downtown or is that what
they call him it is?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that happened didn't they play Alabama
like that maybe a year or two ago.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
I mean, they go to Alabama this year and play
in Birmingham right after they play Auburn here, which is
kind of a strange.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
If anything.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
More power to Tommy for comprising this this schedule, because
it's it's not easy, you.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Know, and the Big Twelve schedule, it is what it
is at this point as far as you know the
games and the televised situations. But b YU is going
to be a b excuse me, b YU is gonna
be a road game in January there on ESPN. The
other TV game is at Kansas, also on ESPN, and
then the IOWS State game here.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I mean the schedule, people can go find that.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So many good teams in this league, so many if
you don't have and I know a lot of people
and you probably do too, that got rid of their
tickets a while back just because and now, hell, if
I had money, I would have tickets, because it's how
can you beat the schedule? I mean, you know, you
and I got to go to games for free because
of the credentials.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
But it was work.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Let's let's qualify that it was work, but fantastic schedule, right,
you got the big time teams coming in and you
played some tough road games.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah you're talking about back then or yeah back then? Yeah,
back then. Yeah, Shan didn't have that many, didn't have many.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
No, No, I mean I got this is more like
a This is more like a without yeah, without you know.
And then I guess maybe that just comes with Tommy
being more confident and what he's got and you know.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
And and truth be told, this might be secretious whatever,
but it might be even tougher than some of Lut's stuff.
Although Loot went to the n I T s and
did really well and there was very few teams and
here I am, you know, booking the day. You know,
let's Loot's teams. There were fewer better teams than Loots
in November. Yeah, fewer He's you'd own, you'd own all

(40:33):
the preseason. Go to Maui, well there went to the
n I TU he's.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
An n I T.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
But they be in New York and he used to
use those like as an excuse to go recruit as well.
He would go back east and play a game every
once in a while, like a memory. He played Georgetown
one time in DC went back and played Villanova, so
he would like to go back. They played Florida I
think one time even.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Maybe yeah, well he played in Florida. They played Temple.
That was the Inflambus game. I think it was a
brand Jeff Rees and I.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
It could be talking about the one in Saint Petersburg. Petersburg, Yeah,
we went to that.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Did you go to that?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Maybe it was you and me? Do you remember this? Uh?
I think it's Brian, Brian and I. We were going
to go eat dinner. Damon and Kalid were late to
the bus, I guess, and they needed to right to
the restaurant, so they came with us and we took
him and that was and that was that. But yeah,
you know, and that was not a good thing to do.
A good thing, though, not a good thing.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
That was the seven up shootout. Yeah, I remember very much.
One of the games was one of the double headers.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
It was like ninety six ish, maybe even earlier.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Maybe Jim Valvano was doing like color for ABC, but
it be ninety three.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Yeah, Brent Musburger and stuff. You're probably right ninety three
because they were together, right, Calid.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
And Dan so yeah, yeah, So I mean there were
white that I'll tell you later. Okay, Okay, it was
a good it was a good k gun moment.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Okay, what was I gonna say now?

Speaker 4 (41:54):
That the the fact that Luke did venture out. You know,
he didn't just wait for everybody to come here. You know,
they always had that big you know, the Festival Classic
when you hit a couple ranked teams in.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
But he would like to go.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
In fact, in fact, I was thinking about the Festival
Classic just earlier today. I think I would ask Tommy.
I'm asked Tommy, wouldn't be cool to bring it back,
don't we? I mean, teams don't travel like that anymore
to go. But it would be great to have those
teams they already have them. Do you already have them
on the schedule? Why not just coming have a four
day weekend or whatever it.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Was, you know again, because those games are like you know,
one time thing go to U. C. L A, go
to you know, go to Vegas, go to Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Here here here you go the first one to the
return to the festival. Because we've talked about this with Bibby,
we talked about this with Josh. You know where I'm
going with this, right, Have Damon come in from Georgia Tech.
Have Bibby come in from Sacramento State, have Josh from
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(42:52):
to you by the Luddelsen whatever.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Yeah, with a TV network pick up on that problem.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yes, you think, oh yeah, look those teams Sacramento eight. Yeah,
well Biby, Biby and Shaq is the GM maybe bring
those guys into town?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, I think so, But you buy.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
What network is gonna show that, you think the c.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
W, Yeah, that's all folks. They can do that.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, play the game like at eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah yeah, and play the reruns like you've been back
in your day when you have the tapes, right, we
gotta fight back and give them the tape to play
it back at.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Three in the morning.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Still satellite it back. But yeah, you wonder. I mean,
it'll be kind of a fun little I don't know,
unofficial tournament. So maybe an all exhibition games because you.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
And I go back and back back in the day.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
So you did that, right, You went to the games
and you had to have the tape and bring it
back on the plane with the team and when what that.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Was eighty three, you know, that was like eighty six.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
You still do that in eighty six. Okay, So when
did that stop right then? Because they because someone forgot
their tape.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
No, basically, if you remember, Arizona was on probation, yeah,
because of their football situation, so you could not show
them live. So it wasn't even worth doing satellite in
those years. But it expired in eighty six, so there
were there. I just remember there was a couple of
games we did live in eighty six. I don't I know.
We were in Colorado in Boulder. I can't remember the

(44:14):
other one maybe cal But besides that, yeah, they just
give me the tips and we bring them home and
then and then they played them later ty yep on
the wb Kega and it was on your station. Okay,
But so it stopped that same year. I think that
was it, and then we lost the contract. I don't
know what they did after that. They were able to

(44:35):
maybe satellite stuff. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. In those
years eighty five up till eighty five, you could not
show them live because of the probation.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Okay, and look how well they did. They did fairly
well with the Huntleyes and the the Dobbins, and yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
They had a couple of good teams. But then oh
yeah they made the eighty six game. We did we
televised the ASU game the Chuck Seasel interception there it
was simulcast, it was US and it was on CBS. Oh,
simulcast with BS. And so if you if you go
to YouTube, you'll see how did they do that? I
have no idea.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
I was just up there at that door. Jimmy Kimmel's
a night on that Lundquist and.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Pat Hayden, Or's somebody like that was doing it, and
then we were doing it. I don't know. I guess
I guess it was live.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
It was because we had and I said this with
the with the hundred guys and and I don't know
who it was in the show last week because you
were here when uh, when.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Chuck was was, you know, starring.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
What were your impressions of him early because you covered
the team back in the day when he first got here.
He was super tough. No, no, no, just when he
first started he was just like you, you look like him?

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah, I wish no, he kind of came in. I'm
trying to think of how it really really became shot
to become a star. It's probably like a camp co
chief one of those first years he was here where
he was really young, and you know, the coaches started
noticing this young guy who flying all over the place
and then hard hitting and took no prisoners kind of approach.

(46:05):
I really that's kind of I think how it kind
of burst on the scene. You know, he was never
he was not that big freshman.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, he was like a book fifty and private eleven.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
So I don't know, He's probably on the scout team
and things like that, and next thing you know, he's
he's knocking down players on defense and probably a lot
of times, you know it's somebody is noticed by the
coaches or his teammates.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
When did you notice him?

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Probably by a sophomore year, I would guess. I mean
he was playing.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah, so who's that skinny dude knockting people off there?

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I mean, by the time he was junior, he was
a star.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah, I don't know, I mean it was pretty quick
and kind of you know, did we even know he
had this kind of a player, right? And next thing
you know, he goes on to play in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
But given given Arizona's DNA. He is Arizona's type of player. Yeah, him, Scooby, Teddy,
Rob Waldrobe, you know, just dudes exist. Who are these
dudes and then they turn into these people.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Well, I mean, you know, the Desert Swarm. There were
a couple of superstars that were you know, they wound
up going to the NFL, but you're right, there was
you know, wald Rob Waldrip, you know, undersized, you know.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
He Dana Well's.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Yeah, they were all like you know, six' one, you know,
two fifty, but they still you know, produced, and they
went to the NFL, maybe played short careers, had great
you know, post football careers. But then there was the
Tony Bowies and the Brandon Sanders and Sean Harris and
people like that who you know turned into pro careers.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, on Twin Cass and the that was the guys
that we had, Darryl Lewis, Yeah, you know those guys,
the good old days.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Yeah, I mean, Dick Tomy, that was you know, that
was the peak of his success was those early nineties
teams were just incredible and he kind of carried that
through through the nineties until it was over.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, right, any calls, no, nope, thank you guys for
calling five duo for what sixty four forty?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
How far did you go back? Just recently? Probably? What
do you mean in your in your history of Arizona? Uh,
twenty twenty two? Oh you were just looking. Yeah, you're good.
How did Fridady go? By the way? What game did
you cover?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
It was Flowing wells Americopa and had that. It was
a good one. It was it went to ot. What
was your lead? Oh, you tell me if threw healthy
or what your lead was, or did you send it
to me? Yeah, I sent it to you. It was sokerpilled.
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
That.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, it was at Flowing Walls.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
It was.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
It was a good game, to be honest. That's why
it is the fourth quarter thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he
told me flying walls win. Yeah, over time seven.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
I'm a cabby yer old parent are two times over?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Really you were on the northwest side. That's where they went,
really okay, not your proud cabs more north that you
were more north. No, I was kind of at the
southern No. I was at the northern tip of of
the flying Wells testriy.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Oh, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
To you.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Ready to go. Ye, Hey, you gotta call who's this Brian?

Speaker 12 (49:07):
How's it? God?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Bryan? We can barely hear you because you have a
lot of static to the back. Not again, yes again yeah, pull.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Pull, pull off the toll road.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
So yes, we're here. Can we have Yeah, but.

Speaker 12 (49:27):
No, I get calling about the game this weekend? Okay,
go ahead, And you know, I really feel I got
a chance to win this game. And if our Dott
players act, they've been playing and we don't make mistakes
on offense. I don't think it was of course, and

(49:49):
we haven't been running the ball over, so that's a
good thing. We have a very good chance of winning
this game.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So I think we had the show yesterday, right, we
talked about the spread.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
It was seven.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Oh, we had Michael lev I think it started at
seven and a half and it's down to maybe five
and a half.

Speaker 12 (50:05):
So you have and a half guys saw that.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yeah, what would you do?

Speaker 12 (50:08):
Yeah? I would take the Cats.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Take the Cats.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, it's strange you say that because the money is
going on the Cats now, it wasn't six and a half.

Speaker 12 (50:19):
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's really just I don't know. Okay,
I watched Texas Tech. They looked very impressive. Yeah, that
team was good. Of course, I don't know how good
gutime is because Texas Tech handled them pretty easily. I
watched the Ash game. Maybe one of those teams. I mean,
we're all right, but nothing spectacular, nothing better than what

(50:42):
wed look Yeah, yeah, and I really we have a
shot whether we play as we play Baylor Oklahoma State.
Now they don't have a football coach. You know it's
gonna be you know, we have if we just don't
make mistakes offensively, hip the penalties down and just move

(51:04):
the ball down. I feel like we have didn't do it.
We had a very good chance of controlling that game.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Okay, Brian, let me tell you we're gonna start up
go fund you for your phone on the break. Well, okay,
thanks many thanks for the call. Yeah. Well, you know,
he says, if this and if that, that's a lot
of this, baby, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, if the offense is too, because there was a
lot of penalties last time with holding. Uh, but you
know the special teams didn't look good.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, if this, if that, Yeah, if.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I hit sixes, if I hit sixmbers in the lottery,
I won't be coming back.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
To We're on Monday.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
A lot of good things have to happen, and a
lot of variables there with the weather and the night
game and the fans.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I mean, it's gonna be an hold new ball game
for the UL. Dave, you're right, all right, Let's take
a break, come back
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