Hour 2- August 11, Dave Cosgrove

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Streaming live on the iHeart Radio wib. This is I
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fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rovero. Rusty as I am.
You're one. You're irsty. You're not as rusty. You shouldn't
be rusty. Your young legs, young heart. Then ready, mister
workout dude.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
A little rusty, a little rusty from lifting those I'd
be rusty lifting weights.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Know that'd be.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
A ready puts ears on your life. Man?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Put some extra miles on you? What's the army?

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Army?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, yeah, you're you're actually fifty years old. You got
some breaking news w NBA stuff. What do you got? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I got some stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
This is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
Fifty Just a couple of Arizona stuff to start us out.
Arizona got a commit from a twenty twenty six Phoenix
area left handed picture named Tommy Pascan now Pascan New.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
He's the fifth picture from that class to commit.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
Keeping it going, the women's basketball team announced their non
conference schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Pretty pretty winnable. Yeah, should be. You gave me some looks.
What's that?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Just set that look just you know, no power for opponent.
Nobody really. I think it's it's not shouldn't be surprising
because I'm not sure she knows what team.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
She has, well, she'll be playing with this season.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Typically that's what they do because they have to see
get them used to winning exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
There's a little bit off the beaten path. But you
have also announced their cross country schedule. Tim's listening. I
know he's probably excited for that, but you're gonna be
running out there. I will not be running out there.
I'm not a running guy.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
The other you tried it, I tried it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I can run.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I just don't like to.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know anybody that does. I really rusty as
a runner.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Big news that came out today though, was the UFC
deal with CBS.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
No more pay per views.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah. So so you have to be subscribed to peacock.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
What is it, paramount plus.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Paramount plus So that's like what ten bucks? Yeah, so
if you're subscribe to that, you can get all these
frights for ten bucks. Yeah a month or whatever?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
A month yeah, yeah, or if you have cable. I'm sure.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
I mean they said they were gonna it was with CBS,
and I know paramounts like their affiliate, so I don't
know if it's going to be like on like a CBS,
like a little.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Some kind of I saw some kind of thing on
the old interweb. It's like twelve hundred dollars if you
watched all the and I watch them. I watch them
two hundred dollars to watch all the paper views and
I was like twenty dollars to watch them. Yeah, watch
them now.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
And it was interesting because I was listening to them
talk about it this morning, and there is a little
bit of a caveats. So if like if an event
is out of the country, then that's where you might
see like a premium price for that. But everything in
the US should not have like shouldn't be a pay
per view.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Also, you'll still have to pay something if they're out
in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
That's what I'm thinking, that's what that's like the way
that I think he's going to try to kind of
like sneak it back in where it's like, oh, we're
out of the country right now, it's a huge card.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Here's pay fifty bucks and you can watch it something
like that maybe cheaper which billion in the billions?

Speaker 7 (03:28):
Right?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, seven point seven.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
What were they talking about? Did you see anything today
about the ESPN deal that's wasting billions or something like that.
They're talking about some kind of billion deal.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Deal less deal I heard about with the ESPN was
the NFL. They're taking over a red zone, but it
should should still be the same for the most part.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Scott Hansen said he was going to be there still. Yeah,
everyone loves that.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And they also talked about U possibly a college football
red zone type of thing where you have multiple games
running each show highlights and different games. Yep, four on
one screen three one.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'd watch. I would everyone would love that. Do How
do you watch football on Sundays? Will you play to
watch games?

Speaker 7 (04:07):
Me?

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Usually red zone?

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Sometimes I'll go to the Garter, have like a burger
there what like, Yeah, just watch.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
They have a lot of games on tap.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Yeah, well they just have like man like a numb
sports why they have a ton of TVs.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
So it's like they have like every game pretty.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Much Sunday ticket to get it for the student discount price.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Cool, this is a student discount.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, there is man might get on that. It's a
good price, Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
The only the only thing you don't get is like
the national games, if like the Cardinals and the Seahawks
are on CPS, you're not gonna be able to watch it.
Yeah on Sunday ticket watch it on the actual channel,
keeping it going.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Texas is ranked number one in the preseason a PE
poll first time ever.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, for the first time.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's not unbelievable to me because I figured that over
the time they would have been number one at some point, right,
they'd been number one forever.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, Going off of that though, they're underdogs in the
first game against o Higowa State.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, that's on the road. Yeah, tell me how many
big twelve teams?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Uh? Big twelve teams?

Speaker 7 (05:16):
Four?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Excuse me?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
The issue should be at eleven? Kansas State right behind
them and SEWAs State, and I.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Believe Oh yeah, that makes sense that order that order.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yes, I'm not sure after after I issue eleven, I'm
not sure where they haven't. That's that's maybe it's because
we're not used to being seeing them at eleven.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
That's kind of high. Whose quarterback?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
And I mean they're coming back with their coach with
a lot of guys coming back.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
I think just like kind of counting them as like
an outside playoff team just because they like, I think
any power for a champion probably should be in that
twelve because it's like right now.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
But what was surprising me was Kansas State ahead of
Iowa State. They were the runner up last season? Did
I always stay lose a lot of people?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Uh wait wait Kansas States ahead of them?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, even if they did wait wait wait, that's a
solid program.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
So in our calculations, wasn't Kansas State? We kind of say, oh,
maybe that's a win blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You remember saying that, Yes, if things went the right way,
it was it was that first conference first.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Here, huh was three and four?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, he was going to say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I thought I was maybe thought it was illusional or something,
which I am, But yeah, okay, we'll see the game
is where Yeah, Kansas State Week three? That was?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
That's that Friday game. Is it a conference game or
if we know? Okay, so just be sure it was
part of the scheduling ten years ago. It just didn't
want to change it.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Difference a Case State and Iowa State though playing in
that week zero game, So that's gonna.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Where is that again?

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Is Ireland?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Ireland? I thought it's a good game.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Yeah, keeping going for as. No State named E. J. Warner,
son of Kurt Warner, as their starting quarterback. So starting
to see, you know, some some lineage there.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Maybe they'll make a movie about him moving over to MLB.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Cayl Roley hit his MLB best forty fifth home run
as the Mariners have now won seventh straight.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Are they in the hunt?

Speaker 6 (07:23):
They should be? I mean they man, They've They've had
a good team. They've had a good team this year.
It's crazy to me though that Roley's still second in
MVP odds in the Al.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Judge to judge.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Real missed a lot of game, Yeah, because he's been
hurt and the Yankees have been dying.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, so that was pretty crazy.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Justin Verlander got thirty three thousand, five hundred career strikeouts
even though they got absolutely crushed yesterday by the Nationals.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
She's still married to the supermodel, Yes, Kate. He's a
winner no matter what.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Then he sure is.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
Ichiro Suzuki had his number retired by the Mariners.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Funny enough, so fifty one Ichiro Suzuki.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, any comprehend in my head.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
No, I mean it makes sense.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
He was in the Hall of Fame, played most of
his time there. I think he only went to the
Yankies like towards that end. So, but I mean he
had for his I think he only had like four
It's it was a really like low number of at bats.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
It's like four or five.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
And then he just like had his batting average above
three hundred the rest of his career.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
It is insane funny. This is funny. Ceedee lamb.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
You know, I don't know if you were watching, he
he got hit on the sideline by the ref when
he wasn't looking potential that he might get fined for that,
but because he was standing too close to the game,
so and like kind of like I could say that
he was impeding the the path of the official.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Even do you watch the video you see was celebrating
I think a Cowboys touchdown, wasn't wasn't paying attention? Ref
comes scrunning down on the kickoff. Did nobody tell him
it was an ex Fision game? Would no one warned
him that the ref was coming? No one was near him?

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well, it was like you're standing, you're standing on the
like you know what I mean, you're standing on the
wide to the sideline. You're out of the coach's box.
You gotta gotta have your head on a swivel there,
you know what I mean. Landon Dickerson, Eagles lineman. He
was There was a video of him getting help off
the field.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Turns out it wasn't that big of an injury.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
He should be back, uh for the start of the
Eagles season opener.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
There's a lot of those type of injuries, right, Yeah,
something's going on.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, it's well, I mean that's the whole thing about
like people.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Is that is that rich Rod's Yeah, if we had
one trainer, we wouldn't have anyone.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Injury thirty five so that thirty five thirty five players out. Yeah,
even Mariano wouldn't be hurt. So he got hurt over
the weekend. Oh yeah there.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, the old game, Yeah, towards the Achilles.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
The second day. I would never be played the center
field where you played center field, like that field something
like that, playing centerfield.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Who knows.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
Matthew Stafford supposed to be back today, was not practicing still,
So it got has some uh rams fans and you know,
kind of just like football pundits on edge just because
Rams were kind of, you know, after they made a
game with the Eagles, I think is the best way
to put it. Last year in the playoffs, they were

(10:44):
kind of seen as that, if it's not the Eagles,
it's the Rams kind of thing. And so obviously not
having the starting quarterback is gonna put a damper on that.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
That's yes, pretty much it for me though. Oh seven
yard bomb? Do you see? Did you see that seven
new yard field goal?

Speaker 7 (11:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, that was grezy. Did that tell I wonder? I
was wondering did it qualify for all time best?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Because it's because it's a preseason game, really, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So it doesn't become it doesn't become real until it's real. Yeah,
it makes no sense. It's a real you know.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
They're still trying to block and he's still trying to
kick it, right.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I did see it. I did see it.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
That was by whom something like that it was? I
know he's the kicker for the Jaguars obviously, But yeah,
I thought that was crazy because it's just like, man,
you're on the forty cam little Yeah, you're on the
forty of your own forty Tyler loop.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
You're now at bat. Yeah, I can do one better.
We'll see what happens. Okays it for me? Okay, anything else?
You got one football? Everything else? Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Everything's good practice continuing throughout this week. There's an open
practice I believe happening next Sunday. Sunday, and then I
meet the team. I believe Saturday. Don't quote me on that. Okay,
open practice borrow, i'd have to.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
You know, tomorrow. Are you going to practice tomorrow? Yes? Yeah, okay.
I was life in the journalism world. Always love me.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Always sunny in Philadelphia, always snowing in Alaska's not it
hasn't hit the humid yet, commity yet. Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
No, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Not a lot of in my opinion, a lot of
money soon. Summer supposed to have maybe short this week,
or I hope I kind of rid up this week.
There's a lot of the city. That means that there
was a lot of lightning on Saturday. I didn't Maybe
I stayed inside too much. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Probably what did you do after the boxing thing?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I went home, took a nap.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
There's no light in the room, there's no lightning never
in the room.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
No, no, no, no, that's what that's what the blackout.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I got the joke.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I didn't even know that first time. Just keep talking
about Steve, right, Thanks Dave, Thanks Bill.

Speaker 7 (13:08):
There you go.

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Uh, just take a break because we're in this statement poorly,
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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio WIP. This is I on
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Speaker 2 (17:42):
Hey, welcome back to Why on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with
me is one and Ray down on the phone we have.
It's a soccer coach from Pima, the boys guys, the
men's side, Dave Cosgrove. How are you doing, Dave.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
Good? How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Steve?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Fine?

Speaker 7 (17:59):
Thanks you?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
How many years now over there?

Speaker 7 (18:04):
I'm not sure I really want to put that out publicly,
but I was told I've started my twenty ninth year
at Pima.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
The twenty ninth year, Holy moly. And I'm sure that
someone told you five years into it you'd be here
another twenty five you'd say, are you crazy?

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Yeah? Well I might say it is Pema crazy, but yeah,
I've been very fortunate to defind a place that I
feel very comfortable with that is, you know, really close
to my heart, obviously playing there, going to school there.
It's been something you know, I'd taken great pride in
over the last you know, to almost three decades now.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, and the success, of course, is undeniable. I'm not
too sure that I should have asked ray this. How
many times you've been rated in the top ten before
seasons has started in the last ten years, Probably every one.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Over the last ten years. Yeah, I've other to say
that it's at least eight, but it could very well
be ten.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, and then this year's four. What makes this team
many different than the previous ones, or does it?

Speaker 7 (19:05):
Or the Yeah, yeah, no, it's significantly different. You know,
for those who followed us. Last year, we were sophomore loaded,
you know, in the national semi final we started eleven sophomores.
So it's a completely rebuild this year. You know, It's
something I haven't had to do in a very long
time in terms of, you know, put together a lot
of different pieces. So for me, it's a great professional challenge.

(19:29):
I'm really looking forward to it. I have a really
good group of kids who are really willing to, you know,
make some sacrifices in the way they change as we
try to put, you know, eleven different pieces of the
puzzle together. And so far it's been a really positive
experience for me and for the team.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Who are some of those players that are looking that
might stand out this season, some of the maybe team captains.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Yeah, so we got to you know, as usual, you know,
a lot of a lot of our kids come from
the local southern Arizona area. So our team captains Robert Keston,
He's from No. Gallas High School. He was a key
player on last year's team. Uh, and he's been great.
He's very talented, good kid, great leader. Uh. Then we
you know, have a couple other players. Guzman is a

(20:13):
local farm weals kid, you know, just my type of kid,
just works hard and respectful, you know, not not not
a lot of flash, but a ton of substance. And
then because of the way things worked out this year,
you know, we've had to bring in some players from
Phoenix from other places, We've had some transfers. So we've
got a couple of really good ones out of Phoenix,
the Phoenix area that they actually played at Glendale last

(20:35):
year Community College and Willie Cortez and Alda Air Venezuela
are you know, two kids we really count out for
leadership and maturity.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
And so you kind of talked about having to rebuild
this year. What you know, what kind of mentality do
you have before the season? You know, when everybody starts
coming in and it's you know, you don't maybe not
have the the rapport with these guys and you know,
trying to figure out where where to put them.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Yeah, you know, great question, and that's I mean to me,
that's the challenge, right, you know, after doing this for
a long time, I look for those unique challenges that
you'll make every year different. And certainly what you're asking
is that challenge that trying to get these kids to
relate to us, to me, to our program, to the
way we do things and create that culture within our
team that kind of coincides with what we've done at

(21:25):
Pima for the last you know, thirty years is really
important and full cloth to the kids. You know, I
think almost two the last man, they've really bought in,
they've really tried that justin and it's hard. You know,
we're asking eighteen nineteen year old kids to change the
way they did things. In some cases, for ten fifteen years,
and you know they're not being stubborn about it. They're

(21:46):
giving us a really honest effort every day. So you know,
I look at the pieces and I think we got
the you know, the pieces right now. Now the real
pressures on the coaching staff to put it together in
the right way, and I think will be a really
different team in six weeks from now than we are
right now, and and I look forward to that challenge. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, that's a good question, Ry, because I was going
to kind of go with that. The toughest part of
this show that I do here is getting the people
to come on, you know, getting the guests like you
and trying to fill the holes. Uh is it? The
the most challenging for you is just trying to get
the guys and how to piece it together what a loots.
The biggest attributes when you put a team together is

(22:26):
this guy fits here. He may not be a great player,
but I'll make him into a great player. And just
finding the right pieces and places for the for the
for the team. Are you pretty good at that? Do
you like doing that?

Speaker 7 (22:37):
Well? I would? I would argue that any good junior
college coach is going to have to be good at
that because you know, the turnover is so so much
so and as been you only get kids in for
two years, you know, so right about the time you
really got and seeing the vision and doing everything, they're gone.
So you know, I would almost argue that every good
junior college coach is an expert in trying to get

(22:58):
that you know, accomplished. You know, take these these personalities,
these talented players, you know, see how they fit, maybe
change their roles a little bit, change their uh you know,
their focused on doing some things differently. But you know,
you know, I really like this group. I think you know,
they we've talked about it, you know, we we we've
got over it in detail what what we wanted to

(23:20):
look like at the end. And I think they all
feel the same way that I do. And it's just
a case of you know, and I'll say, I don't
think it's a kid issue this year. I think I
think it's the coaches. We have to get the recipe right, uh,
you know. And and I do like what we had,
you know, in terms of the pieces to work with.
So for me, like I keep saying, what a great

(23:40):
professional challenge.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, let me ask you this because I know it's
come on the scene recently and we talked about it
over the last couple of years. The NIL, I know,
you guys are starting to push it or at least
make it something for the for the players. Has that
affected you guys?

Speaker 7 (23:56):
You know, uh, not really to be honest, but I
think it's awesome. PIMA is embracing it, and and our
administration in particular, our athletic director and assistant athletic director
is making this available to our student athletes. You know,
I'm not too knowledgeable in the whole area, and you
know it's probably better that way. You know, I'm particularly

(24:17):
what I know, but I do think you know, and
people can argue both sides of it, but that NIL
is sure to stay for now. So you know, we
want to embrace it. And you know, I think as
a school, and that is an athletic program we have,
and I think we'll continue to you know, push that
and hopefully we'll help some of these kids. You know,
and you know, Steve, you've been around a long time.

(24:37):
You know, there's a lot of reasons kids go to
junior college, but one of the major ones is, you know,
junior college is a great bang for your buck experience.
So if we can help get some of these kids,
you know, because they're not saying that these six figure
deals like you know major Division one football and basketball
players are, you know, they're they're getting you know, a
couple of hundred here, maybe five hundred there. Most have

(24:58):
big definitely for some of these kids. Well, you know,
the ability to help these kids, you know, is awesome,
you know, and you know how all that coach is
run programs at PIMA. Now, it's tough out there. You know,
if you're at one of the PIMA programs, you're in
the top ten, you know. I think I think last
year every one of our programs were in the top
ten except for maybe one, and they were in the

(25:18):
top twenty. You know, So you know, it's it's really
hard there. You don't have much time to go to
school training to be on a top meal program and work.
So this extra any extra revenue, I think is really
important for these kids and can to really help them.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right right of all the kids. This may be a
dumb question because it's an estimate. You're on your end
unless you know, twenty nine years of coaching at PEMA,
you've had some fantastic teams. I think a couple of
national titles, right at least two. Yeah, yeah, we've unfortunate
enough to have too too, and then a lot of
success obviously getting deep into the tournaments. How many how

(25:56):
many of these kids, which of course they play and
have dream havemitted to the Division one level? Let's see,
five hundred have come through the doors of those.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
Yeah, you know, to be honest, probably not as many
as they should have. You know, I think talent wise,
we've had plenty, but you know, early on DEMA wasn't
really watched that much for a lot of our kids
got looked over. Then as we broke onto the international scene,
you know, and you know, there's being athletics in particular
with you know, men's soccer, there's not a lot of

(26:31):
money available, so you're really putting together talent with academic
help and financial help, and that's a tough recipe, you know,
and for those who follow the sports. Now there's also
the roster limits in NCAA, so there's even less opportunities
than there were before. And on top of that in soccer.
But you're seeing it in other sports, but in particular
in men's soccer and you'll see it more on Winden's soccer.

(26:53):
There's a real heavy influence of international athletes coming in.
The Opportunities for you know, local American soccer players to
play in the Division one environment is shrinking, so you know,
you know, I think we're doing a better job at
it now than we ever have. You know, we had,
you know, eleven sophomore start. Nine of those kids are

(27:14):
now playing either Division one or Division two. One of them,
but he decided to try and go pros out actually
I think it in Thaighland or Cambodia, trying to get
a contract out there. So ten of our eleven kids,
you know, really have moved on and are looking, you know,
to get that next level experience. And I want to say,

(27:35):
I think, let's see if I can do this. Off
my top of my head. One two three of them
are you know, at major Division one programs. So you know,
if we just looked at that, I would say, if
we had five hundred kids, we'd bet you we probably
have you know, somewhere around fifty or sixty kids who
have gone Division one, and probably two to three times
that number that are in Division two. And then you

(27:56):
have your naias and a Division three.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Is well, yeah, so they're able to continue their their
dream of playing soccer. Go ahead on one if you
had something.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Just looking at the schedule, it looks like you just
finished up a scrimmage with Grand Canyon, is that correct?

Speaker 7 (28:11):
Yeah, we played them last night.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, just what did you see from your team? Both
the good and maybe some stuff to improve on.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Yeah, it was a great game for us, you know,
and I really appreciate Grand Canyon coming down and playing
that game with us and giving us an opportunity. And
if your fair, Grand Canyon was better than us. They're
a major Division one program. They have a new coach
that they're trying to build their culture, and he's done
a really good job. I thought they were prepared than
we were, so again that puts a lot of pressure

(28:41):
on the coach just to have to pick some things
over the next week or two. But you know, I
like the fact we haven't been defended very well in
our scrimmages and over one hundred and ten, over one
hundred and five minutes against Grand Canyon really conceded too
to a major Division one program, So that that that
was a good step in the right direction, I thought.

(29:02):
Considering the physical differences between our kids and their kids
we really held up in the one v one situations.
And then of course, you know in those cases, what
we're really looking at is not so much so good.
But you know, where's the problem is what we need
to fix. And I thought our organization, especially defensively, our
communication is something we're going to be addressing this week.

(29:22):
And then quite frankly, you know, I think a lot
of our kids were maybe nervous and we didn't handle
the pressure as well as we could have. Well, guys
think we're actually a pretty technical team and we can
keep the ball and play well. So I think, you know,
we need to do a better job of giving these
kids confidence to play, to make mistakes, to you know,
fix their mistakes. So you know, probably those are the

(29:43):
two things we're really going to work on as communication
and organization defensively, and then just you know, given our
kids confidence to play. You know, we believe in them.
Like I said, I think we've got good pieces.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
So you know, with there's a lot of been there's
been a lot of uh, you know, kind of players
moving around and shifting around, you know, from teams and stuff.
What do you look for when you're trying to go,
like trying to get a guy to Pima and then
kind of after that, what do you hope that he
leaves Pema with like when he's trying to continue his journey.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
That great, you know, and I could probably go half
an hour. I know you guys don't have that much time.
But you know, when we're recruiting these kids, that's exactly
what we're preaching to them, is we were when you
come to Pima. You know, we're fortunate enough now that
we're a very high profile program, so we get hundreds
of kids who want to come to Pima, whether they're locally, statewide,

(30:36):
across the country, or internationally. So you know, we can
afford to be a little bit picky and choosy, and
you know, when we look at talented players, you know,
we always are looking at you know, character. And the
good thing with you know too, being such a good
soccer city is that we know these kids by the
time they're eight years old. A lot of these kids,
and we know the coaches who work with them when
they're in middle school and high school and club. You

(31:00):
have a really good idea and most of those those
kids that come in, especially from the local community and
even Phoenix where I have good relationships with a lot
of coaches up there about you know, not only the
soccer player, but the kid, the family. So we're a
little bit fortunate in that regard that we kind of
you know, have a head start on a lot of
other programs, but ultimately a lot of a lot of

(31:20):
our decisions are made on you know, the culture, you know,
or you know, do they fit the culture. Are they
the type of kids who are going to come in
and get treatment early instead of trying to sneak out
of treatment? Are they type of kids who are going
to find ways to do extra work or find ways
to cut corners. And you know, we feel like we
get it right most of the time, and that's what
we sell to these kids. You know, that's not the

(31:41):
type of kid we're looking for. We're looking for a
kid who is you know, really progrossive, aggressive in his development,
responsible in his academics, and that you know, wants to
use PEMA as a stepping stone to the left level.
And we think we're a great place to start that process.
I think our track record on the on the field,

(32:03):
our track records, especially over the last decade of moving
kids along, so that that's exactly what we do. If
the kids and the players and the parents buy into
what we're trying to you know, sell in terms of
commitment and culture. Uh, and you know, really that's the
backbone of our program. Now. I think the biggest thing
is we don't match up. You know, we don't have
the money to go out and buy international players and

(32:24):
get all this, you know, get all these top top
players across the country. So it comes down to you know,
discipline and culture and commitment. And we're very fortunate we
get a lot of really good kids and families that
come to our program.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
So don't get too political here, but and I'm not
you are either, uh with the international players any difficulty
in getting them here?

Speaker 7 (32:48):
Boy, that's kind of a loaded question, Steve Yes is
quite frankly the answer. And we have one or two
ourselves that you know didn't come. But you know, I've
heard across the country from other coaches it's been a
major concern. I think every school is having two to
three different you know, kids that they thought were they
were going to be able to bring in it and
they haven't been able to. And it's unfortunate, you know,

(33:09):
and you know, the best coach is just you know,
kind of just rotate and move on to the next,
you know player. They have you know, plan A, Plan B,
Plan C. So nobody's really you know, I think getting
it that bad by it. And let's be honest, it's
no surprise that things are a little bit more difficult
this year. But for us, you know, we go out
and we get our few international players every year. We

(33:32):
you know, this year, I think we have four. You know,
some years we have as many as seven or eight,
but you know, this year it's it's a small number.
They're great guys. We're happy to have them. And you know, again,
to me, it's always about the kids that show up,
who are on the field out of team every day.
We'll work with anybody who wants to be there and
is dedicated. Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Maybe a couple of quick questions, Uh, you don't you
haven't played here for the title, you know, at least
the tournament in the last couple of years. I think
last year you did not right any pressure or a
lack of pressure. Now you can just kind of play
well without the expectations of playing well here in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
Yeah, you know, so you know, last year, You're right.
We were in Huntsville, Alabama, you know, and we had
a really good team. I really enjoyed it. We ended up,
I think, being twenty wins, one lost, one time, lost
in the national semi finals, and palty kicks to the
National champions. So I think we felt like we were
the second best team or even as good as the
team we lost to. And it was one penalty kick

(34:31):
we lost by, so we were right there, you know.
So getting away I like getting away. I think, you know,
kind of get you on the road and you just
surround yourself and it's all about soccer for a week
and a half, fighting too something. To be frank, the
two years we hosted, we didn't do well, And I
don't know if that's a product of me feeling pressure
it gets on pressure, or maybe just not getting into that.

(34:54):
And we're on the road, traveling, you know, where we
were unified and focused on one task, you know. I mean,
I guess I ought to take responsibility for that. But
you know, for me, I prefer to play on the road.
But you know, when we have good teams, it is
fun to play at home and get big crowds, and
I know the kids love to play in front of
their family. So I'm just happy to be at the
national tournament and we've been fortunate to be there a lot,

(35:16):
and hopefully the next time we do get it in Tucson,
you know, I do a good better job and we
progress a little bit further than we did the first
two times.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
That it'll be your fortieth year of coaching here at people, You.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Would think somebody that people would get a clue here
after thirty, don't, you know, and figure something out.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It's because all have changed so often they don't know
any better.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah, I think I've out lasted like three or four,
you know, and we've had some really good ones and
the one we currently have now Ken Hockey Mu's been awesome.
I mean, he's done so much work for us, and
our field is probably the best, but it's been in
a decade. So we're super excited to be playing at home.
And I know Ken really goes to bat for all
the programs And.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
If I could just last young would be reversing not
asking you about Kelly who passed away. Obviously a big
blow to to soccer in general here and here in
southern Arizona.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
Yeah, what a feeling you might ask him if he did,
and I was going to say something, you know, Yeah,
I know, tell I knew Kelly wants she played that pima,
you know, and and her family and extended family is
one of these great soccer families in Tucson, between the
Jackson's and the Gores and Kelly's family. Uh So, it's
it's I'm still kind of stunned. I mean, you know,

(36:31):
uh so, I'm not quite sure I expressed myself very well,
uh you know, exactly to what happened, and you know
the impact of what I have. But I do know
that Kelly was a terrific person, you know, and I
think the stories are up there, you know, And I
thought Kelly was a great player. I never actually got
to watch your coach, but of course the record speaks
for it. Sure. But I do know for a fact

(36:51):
that she she adopted one of her cousins young children
to raise as her own, which just speaks to her
as the person she was, you know. Uh, I have
so much respect for her for doing that, taking that,
you know, on her family, because she had three year
of her own to go with it, and she just
rolled right through it. And then I've been fortunate enough to,
you know, coach some players that you know played it's

(37:13):
help point for Kelly, and and they all really liked her.
And these are some great kids and great families. So
there's no doubt the impact she had. It's just it's
just a really sad day for the Tucson soccer community.
And I think, you know, we're still trying to come
to terms with it, you know, but I do know
that you know, she'll be missed, and I do know

(37:33):
that she was well respected, and you know, we're fortunate
we had her in our community for as long as
we did because she definitely made an impact and changed slides.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yes, yeah, no questions, good thoughts, Thank you, Dave. Good
luck to this this year. We'll talk to you again.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
You know, Steve, my my my judgement, what type of
job I'm doing. Every years, if I get to talk
to you twice, that usually means that talking the preseason
and talk to you before the national tournament. So I'm
really hoping we'll speak again.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Dave. That's a thank you very much, because many people
don't want to talk to me once.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Well, I appreciate your talking.

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Speaker 3 (42:36):
That list Please call in so On Chad GBT, it
was asked who are the top ten Arizona wild football
players of all time? Mm hmm, and this is based
off of historical records, accolades, and consistent recognition across.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Okay, wait wait wait, yours would be my top ten
or your top one here? You know this your one, yeah,
of all time? Yeah, Scooby right, Oh that's right, you're
kind of.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm a very very loyal to Scooby to the last
ten years, yeah or whatever. Really not even but Scooby right,
you just you always felt his presence on every defensive
play when Arizona was out there.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
For that one year. I think you got hurt second
or third year.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, but even even that year when he was playing,
you felt his presence. Yeah, right, even even his freshman
year he was making plays. You know, when Oregon came,
it was like a rainy day. They stopped on Shack
Richardson throws the ball back in. He's the one great that.
I mean, he's the one catching that interception.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Twenty thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Okay, yours number one college football player for you, of A.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
I don't think I've been watching you.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I forget as much. To me.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
It's easy rooky to me, literally really yeah, I think
it's close between him and Bruski.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah see, but Bruski, Yeah, I think Anthony would be
able to answer this better than me. But Bruskie he
lives in a lore of the desert's warm, still kind
of out there doing some great things, right, so he
has that cachet or that, you know, whatever it is
today in today's world, he's still out there and people

(44:22):
know him. But I don't know Ricky. And then second
for you.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Kadeen Kadem that's honestly for me only because he's recent recent.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Chuck my number two, and he'd be my number two.
He'd be my I don't even I mean Teddy about
three or four, I don't know. Yeah, well this list
has Teddy at number one.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Okay, this is from uh, you just asked him this question,
So give me the first two Teddy Bruski, Ricky Helpley okay.
And then you have Chuck Seesaw number three and it
describes them right, yes. Known for bone questioning hits and
ferocious play. That's Chuck Seaesel, Chuck Cecil, Rob Walldrop, a

(45:07):
hulking presence in the trenches. Are Lupino known as the
Cactus comment.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
That's a cool nickname.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
He's five, right, yes, number five, number six. Nick Foles,
the all time passing leader went the Bowl with the
MVP of the Eagles. Yeah, which of course doesn't should
in factor into that because it's college specifically. Yeah, kadem
carry an inspirational hometown star yep antoine case in a
lockdown defensive back who won the Jim Thorpe Bobby Wade

(45:38):
held the school record for a long time for almost
two decades, and then the guy who just beat it,
Tetron McMillan.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, and you guys know, I've already thought that if
Tetro would have had a great year, he had been
the all time best in my mind, because it would
have been, like you, more recency biases. But okay, I
think that's a fair.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Even just going off of that. Thirty years from now,
I think he's still gonna be looked at.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Who oh yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Well it's also well, look, and there's a guy that
kind of had a year or two right here and
he didn't have the UX to his hurt is the
guy you thought would be on it and the other list,
yeah is drunk, right because everyone knows that he played
here but didn't really shine here because of the situation
injuries or and stuff. So what was the other question you.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Asked so because I was surprised Rob wasn't on there
if they had Nick Foles on there from his NFL
NFL stats or accolades, I was like, okay, maybe he's
in top ten popular Tetra is still number one for
that one, Ricky Hunley, Chuck Cecil Bruski, Waldrup, Antoine Cason,

(46:45):
Darryl Lewis, Art Leapino, Kadeem Carry, and then running up
the top ten.

Speaker 17 (46:50):
Is Scooby, right, yeah, see, And I thought Scooby would
be in the top five for that for sure because
of recency recentcy, Yeah, recentcy, and he was for the
reason you like him as he was good, you know,
but more recent than those other guys.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
And McMillan obviously that's not a shock to me because
oh yes, and his first year, if he has a
great year, he might even move up just because even
though it has nothing to do with here. Same thing
as kind of Nick Foles.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
I will say that one of the old games that
I have watched was when Nick Foles, I think in
two thousand and nine went to USC and they were
on a crazy streak. I think it was my It
was like the one of the last years that Pete
Carroll was there and he man, he had some touch dude.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
There was a.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Sideline throw for a touchdown. I was like, man, just
floated it. We were all of nine years old, maybe, yeah,
but I watched it as a replay a couple couple
of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
So let's try. You're the YouTube guy.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Well, I don't know, because it's like, you know, having
parents that aren't from here, it's like you don't really
you don't get indoctrinated into like American sports, sure you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
So it's like you have no like, well from here,
Yeah I don't.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
Yeah, And so it's like I you know, I started
watching football on my own, and my parents aren't like,
oh you should check out these like old you know,
these old football games. And it's like so you find
out as you go along, go back and watch me
like oh yeah those game.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah no, and you kind of even learn better than
us because you're really intense into studying it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I mean I try to be.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Anybody else want to call let us know what you
feel the best football player to play through here to
here and then but don't include any NFL stum. Yeah,
I think that's a good list and two different questions, right, yeah, yeah,
makes sense? Are a similar results?

Speaker 6 (48:34):
Yeah, so this was also as we talk about this
all the time.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah, this is also Chad GBT.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
Last question, I asked the first to look up the
to research the last fifty years of college basketball, because
sometimes it doesn't have a basis and it'll just like
spew like complete recency bias. So, and then I asked
it the blue blood question and said so it defined it.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
It categorized it into two.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
It said the core six blue Bloods and then the
New Age blue Blood's and the course six.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
It goes U C.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
L A Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Indiana.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
That makes sense.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Yes, new Age is only four, but it goes Yukon
Villa Nova, Michigan State, Louisville.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Perfect. Yeah, you're agreeing with that, right.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Didn't like Michigan State, Michigan State for like New Age
blue Blood Yeah, because you know what if you talk
to if this show was in Michigan State, guess what
they'd be doing saying.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
They should be saying what Jay says here, right, you know,
of course we are. We got to look at all
this success, but it's probably not okay, So was there
anything after Oh.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
No, that wasn't even my biggest great it was Louisville.
Oh they had some pretty down years after that championship.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, after Patino Yeah yeah, yeah, well they were pretty
good in the eighties. To me, blue Blood is old stuff.
Old stuff.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
I think Yukon it makes a really good.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Because you go into the top.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Or this, uh like further, Yeah, they were in that
second group. I think they are probably like it makes
a lot of sense for them to be in the
second group, just because I don't know how true this is,
but it says six titles since nineteen ninety nine, and
that's more than Duke and Kansas in that s fan So,
I mean, I think that's a fair you know.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
See blue Blood though, too, to me is it's like
you have a nineteen fifty eight Thunderbird or what do
you call it towards you know, yeah, whatever car.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
To me, that's blue bloods that's wow.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Cool, but like still like into now yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But now it's like, you know, what do you what's
a nice car here today?

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
It's just different. Yeah, yeah, does it make sense? The Tesla,
the vintage, Yeah, the vintage, Yeah, which would you rather
have the old school. The vintage adventure is when it's
cool and still kind of hip, you can still drive
it and it'll look sharp in it. Right, And that's
the sixth to your point where the Yukon, though they
probably could each inch into the other one just overall

(50:59):
blue blood Yeah, because at some point, some point, the
best or maybe the top ten best programs, if you
did that, yeah, they'll just probably give you the wist
of wins, right. Yeah, And there was almost still not
gonna be on there. There was almost a fantastic program
that's undeniable blue blood dough.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
If you were to compare it to a college football program,
what would you compare it to?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Which one?

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Arizona basketball? What would you what like college football program
would you compare to.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
That's a good question, that's a that's a really good question.
I want to say. Florida is not any of this, right, Florida, Florida. Okay,
Florida thinks they're a pretty good program. Yeah, and they
win a lot of games, and but right, but right
right on the cusp of being there but not being there,

(51:46):
would you be fair?

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah, I think that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
They had a good run. Yeah, l s U is
nowhere to the l s U.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, they haven't been on any yeah, even the football.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
For football, I mean than nel Is in Florida.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think another good
one would probably be A and M.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
The comparison. Yeah, I was gonna stay there too. Yeah,
I think, like Chuck, you're not You're not gonna be
here tomorrow for Chuck. But Chuck said that too. He
says he covers college football. He does a fantastic job
for the Washington Post, and he made a joke about that.
Everybody at Texas think they've won six titles. Yeah, and
they haven't. No, but they act like they that is football.
And are they a blue blood football program? Probably right?

(52:29):
But yeah, this is the percently been number one in
the country to begin the season. I think I would
have never thought that.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
No, never, No, for sure, I totally agree.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
I think ut I think UT you do say is
a blue blood in football, But the rest of the
Texas schools probably not.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Which ones I mean.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Like Texas Tech, No, Texas A and M Baylor No,
those are just TCU No, like neither like none of those.
But I think I think you can say Longhorns like
Texas Longhorns. I'd say they're blood in football.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
In football, Yeah, I just I was just thinking back
to comparing Arizona basketball to a to a college football team.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I don't maybe just for me, it comes to Boise State.
They are always just a solid program. They win, maybe
not in one of the better conferences. They'll always that comfortable,
always have one or two good, good teams to compete
with them. Uh, but they're always nationally they're they're they're
up there. Maybe not, they don't have the hard way

(53:34):
to prove it. Yeah, but there's a solid program, just
like Arizona basketball, but they're both not blue bloods in
their respective sports.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yeah. Yeah, just interesting stuff.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
I mean, it's like you could just feel like the anticipation,
like the buzz from you know, just college sports, you know,
mostly professional sports kind of being back.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
And so that's kind of what it's like.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
These well, let me the programs. This is a dumb thing.
Who's the who's the give me the top three? Oh god,
we gotta go pro pro teams. Price wise, Yankees, right,
their their their blue blood Cowboys are probably second in
terms of how much they're worth and and like the
hell have they done? What have they done? Cowboys specifically.

(54:18):
But they're expensive as all hell if you want to
buy them, okay, but are they worthy? You gotta go
a good show. Thanks guys,