Hour 2- August 12, Chuck Culpepper

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio while this is I
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, welcome back to wing the ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Vera, your James Silver Now
on the phone or at least in this mic or
whatever you're doing, not ray but one for breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
This is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Who you're at because I don't I'm throwing I'm throwing off.
I have no idea what you were saying. But Happy
Tuesday to everyone out there. You're truly goody two shoes.
Back on the mic, not on the phone. Doesn't even
know microphones from phones. I can't remember names. Good old
Steve Rivera. What am I doing here? Don't answer that,

(00:50):
don't answer Yeah. So starting off breaking news with the
Indoor Football League National Championships happening Saturday August twenty third
at seven thirty. You have the Veiggest Nighthawks and the
Green Bay Blizzard. Yes, we're gonna try to be there,
right yep.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
What day is that?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Saturday? Saturday, August twenty third.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
We're gonna try to.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Do a live show on that Friday with a lot
of the dignitaries that Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
We'll see if we do it, we can pull it off.
Just looking at the MLB standings right now, you have
Toronto and Detroit finding for that first place in the
American Detroit game half a game behind. In the National League,
you have Milwaukee up on Philadelphia by five games. Last
night the Diamondbacks played the Rangers, lost in ten innings,

(01:37):
seven to six. Burger got an RBI single and they
ended their four game losing streak to the Diamondbacks. Dimacks
werena had a little bit of momentum in Steve's eyes.
Maybe how about the Brewers ten straight win? Yes, they're
on fire.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
You remember when were you here when he was the
manager for the side Watchers, sorry, the former issue coach?
Uh oh Pat uh yeah, Murphy, Pat Murphy, I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I must have been he was.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
He was a manager of the sidewinders for the Padres,
one of those Okay, I remember it was manager.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I remember was the head coach at ASU. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
But yeah, I mean there's six and a half games
ahead of the Cubs. I mean, they're just they're really
on fire. That's a pretty good Division. Cincinnati's over five hundred.
The Cardinal actually four the five teams are over five
hundred in that division. So give me one two three
Cincinnati three, Milwaukee, Chicago since the Saint Louis good.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
The NBA has now some of their NBA opening games.
They'll have the Houston Rockets going to the Oklahoma City
Thunder and the Warriors playing at the Los Angeles Lakers.
Those are opening night, yep, opening night. I'm looking forward
to all the new TV stuff. I mean, since I
have nothing else to do and I can watch games ESP.

(02:55):
I mean no more TNT, no no, but then Amazon, NBC.
It's be a little bit of a different watch for what.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Do you have?

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Do we take about this last time you were on
with the cable systems and I have a Exinity.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Okay, so you pay for the cable, but you don't
have like the like this guy has.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You have like weird cable. Don't you like streamers?

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, I do all streaming pretty much. Yeah, I have.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Peacock so I can watch something because there's gonna be
games on Peacock in the NBA, and there's believe there's
a you have a football game, opening game, opening game, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think there's actually gonna be more because I think
that's where the Big twelve is going to have some
games played. Yeah, TNT needs something since they lost the NBA.
They also now some Christmas Day games that the Cavilers
going to the Knicks, Spurs going to the Thunder, the
Rockets playing at the Lakers, Mavericks at Warriors, and the
Timberwolves going to the Nuggets.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
And three NFL games the same day. It's gonna be
a Christmas Day. Yeah, it's like luster and they're all
going to be Well, one of them's on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think, yeah, that's what happened. I think it was
the Chiefs and Raiders on Christmas last last year.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, I think they'll probably have the traditional No, I'm
thinking of Thanksgiving, but I think there there's gonna be
a game on on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Dye Simpson has been named the Alabama starting quarterback. He'll
be taking over at the start that starting spot after
Land Melmo. Jalen Milroe was drafted by the Seattle Seahawks. Okay, Oklahamas.
John Matteer never bet on Sports. It was an inside
joke after the photos came out on I think on
Venmo possibly of him paying for his sports gambling. He

(04:40):
put that like is a you know, what's his four
kind of thing? Uh? References to sports gambling. They surfaced
online Monday, the night ever being involved in gambling. It
was an inside joke with his friends. Okay, I guess
the friends didn't get it either. They turned the have
been that funny?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
The Brown's Miles Garrett was sarted of driving one hundred
miles per hour in the sixty mile p hour zone.
Must be nice having the life of a superstar in
the NFL. What happened to him?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Did you say?

Speaker 6 (05:13):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
After he was clocked going, he was issued a citation
for speeding on the interstate.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I dun't question have you gone one hundred or more?

Speaker 3 (05:23):
No, neither way?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Have you? No?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think I don't think I've gone ninety. I don't
think I've gone I've gotten eighty more than eighty because
in Utah they.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Can allow you to go eighty five with it.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Really. Yeah, No, I don't think I ever hit. I
know I've never hit one hundred.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
I probably hit ninety by accident, sometimes maybe passing somebody.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Hey, wasn't that Dave Silver hit?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's good to be a TV guy drive that fast
get Away with that one guy on the billboards.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh me, Yeah, that was a long
time ago.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Drive by that that billboard and he looked to your
leftl there there he goes.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I just saw him.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
I used to be on buses that The Kagun did
that too. We had a little you know, a little
got pictures of us on a bus. Yeah, well just
something recently. I guess everyone was saying the media blah
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Oh yeah, we did our little USh show action.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, Sharon knows whether who's the other one, Jennifer Wadell,
Jennifer Wdell.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's a good little era of k Gun.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
It's New York Jets backup quarterback Tyrod Taylor will miss
the remainder of the preseason after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery,
turrect and an ailment that's been sunlighted him for more
than a week.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
He said, the those type of weird injuries throughout screw. Yeah,
it's really something. You know, they played one preseason game
and there's all these injuries just like that. I mean,
you know, it's the sport and once the regular season
starts is going to be just as bad. But it's
like every week there's somebody going down.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
It's tough.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Some more injuries. The Vikings receiver slash part we're turning
Rond a little more suffered a he's an ending left
knee injury in their Saturday and Saturday's pre season game
against the Texans. The team anfirmed they confirmed it after
reviewing his MRI test results. He's missing another full season
with another similar knee injury. Jordan Love is also undergoing

(07:19):
a surgery today to a pair of ligament in ligament
injury and has left thumb, but he is expected to
be ready for their season opener.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, Like I said, everybody's got something. Everybody's banged up,
and you know, you guys are watched hard Knocks, you
know one from time to time. The team, so they're
doing the Buffalo of the Buffalo Bills, and the first
episode was on last week. They were talking about with
some of the offensive linemen. It says their main goal
is to keep the MVP healthy. You know, they just

(07:49):
want to make sure no one touches Josh Allen and
that's kind of the goal of the season, is to
make sure that quarterback Mahomes. Those those are the guys
without a good quarterback, You're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I set you something on. Oh, yes, you pull it up.
I did ask the good old chat JBT again about
our question regarding the comparison between Arizona basketball and what
they would look like or compared to in college football.
What they say, Penn State, Oh yeah, this is the categories.

(08:25):
Historical prestige, They're high, always in the top twenty five,
fifty championships. Arizona has one, Penn State has two.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Modern relevance, they're competitive every year, usually ranked and then
phase out. Fan base is loyal, yes, and then recruiting
is it's a good top tier.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
I like that one.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
I like that one a lot better than mine. Yeah,
I mean because that's a Yeah. Florida State, though, I
like yours two.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
No, I like this one better. I think that makes
more sense.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I think you can use the same thing with
Florida State. Florida to me, Florida just popped out of
the head and I think that still. But yours is good.
I think this one is very good.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It also says they're just outside the elite blue blood tier.
They have a story, pass strong fan, fan culture, national
respect occasionally have a deep postseason run, and there are
pillars in their respective conferences. Yeah, they just can ever
win the big one.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Who responded to this? Who did this chat?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Okay, So College Basketball Report CBK Report on Twitter released
this graphic of top twenty five college basketball programs right now.
They have Arizona at number nine overall.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, I thought that was I thought that was accurate.
It's just the programs, not the situation this year. Yep,
go ahead and give us the top ten.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yukon at number one, followed by Duke, then Houston at three,
Purdue following them, Florida at five, Alabama right behind them,
Kansas at seven, the highest ranked No second highest ranked
by twelve team Auburn at eight, Arizona at number nine,
Zaga and number ten.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, I think that's accurate. It sounds like, you know,
the elite eight Sweet sixteen teams. Basically, that's how easily plays.
Give us the rest just because.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
So going eleven through twenty five, you have Tennessee, Kentucky,
Baylor in North Carolina, Michigan State, u CLA, Michigan, Arkansas, Illinois,
Texas Tech, Creighton, Iowa State byu Saint John's and rounding
out the top twenty five. Louisville. Yeah, I think that's
pretty good. Whose list is this CBKA report on Twitter?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, yeah, yeah, they're kind of up and down with
their stuff, but this is pretty accurate. Then we were
talking about the programs today, as they say, Arizona number nine.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's about that's about right, it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, and then seven Big five teams overall. Well, and
you talked about gets rated. We talked about the blue
bloods nowhere to be seen, no where to be found.
You have uclad Duke Kansas h North Carolina. No, no,
from yesterday, not on that list now, but yeah, yeah,
they're still on that list though.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Louisville.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, and we kind of sitting on the you know,
kind of because their last victory was twenty fourteen ish,
I think I remember Patino, and then they swiped that away, uh.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know, and then they were lousy for a numbers,
very bad come back.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Good coaching, good coaching. Kenny Payne couldn't coach them. Yeah,
we'll see how long did Patino last two at Saint John's.
Because you know he's a good coach. We just say
how long he's seventy We want to do he's seventy two. Yeah,
well he's seventy ten. The day coaching, can you go
back to the Providence he coached There was Billy Donovan
what I needed.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
But he's pretty good obviously.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Okay, let's go get ahold of Chuck and then talk
about college football.

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Speaker 2 (16:16):
Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta, and today with
me is Dave Silver. While I'm at the controls now
one of my favorite guys, Chuck Culpepper of the Washington Post.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Chuck, how you doing? Hey?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
How you doing?

Speaker 6 (16:29):
Good?

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Afternoon?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Good afternoon. I wanted to talk to some college football
with you. As we get started here, the polls are out.
Let me ask you first, though. We just had Mike
Dunlap on the show. Were you covering hoops back then
alongside me for the post or somebody else.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Let's see, it would have been two and eight far back.

Speaker 12 (16:49):
I was not.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
I was overseas at that point.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Okay, okay, let's talk football. Did you do your top
twenty five? And what did you if you can divulge
it if you want to.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
No, I don't usually do one. And we're not allowed
to do them at our at our place, we're not
allowed to vote in them. I mean, you know, so,
so yeah, I kind of I kind of followed the
whole thing as as would you know, any non voter
in a way, just just and and I was really

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surprised that this is the first time Texas has been
a preseason number one.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I'm with you there.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
I would have thought that the sometime last century. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, So I was stelling.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I was telling day, I was telling the day that
you were coming on, and the last time you were on,
you had a fantastic line. And I'm gonna screw it up.
But uh, you know, the fans in Texas act like
they won six titles and in our football, but you're right.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
They haven't anything. Well.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
And you know, I remember being in the at a
game there and way back, and I think it's five.
It's the year they won the national Championships the last time.
And I remember they had this all the wall, it
said national champions and I think it said nineteen sixty
two COMMA, nineteen sixty nine Comma, and then there was

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there was nothing after nineteen sixty nine, but the COMMA
was there because they clearly expected, you know, something to
come after the COMMA, and it became two thousand and five.
I think those are the three years that they wanted.
But yeah, you would think it always sounds and feels
around there like they like they've wanted more.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
There are many places or at least several.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Places like that in Texas at Defense. But I yeah,
it does kind of ring as surprising that they that
they've they haven't won more national titles.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Is this going to be the arch Manning coming out
party this year?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
You think I think it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
You know, yes it is.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
And I'll tell you when they hired sark Steve Sarkisian,
I had always been hearing in the years before that,
you know, they had what thirteen seasons there of just
pretty close to you know, five hundred or pretty close
to six hundred football, which is not what they expect,

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of course. And I had always heard it was going
to take a Saban type to come in there, because
you know, there were too many cooks in the kitchen
and all that stuff, too many hands, too many people
with too many diverging agendas whatever, and that I thought

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it was going to take like a drill sergeant. And
I'm amazed, absolutely amazed that he and so impressed that
he is. He's got that thing pretty air tight. They
win when they're supposed to, like they're supposed to, and
then of course they you know, they are a few
plays from being in the title one play from being
in the title game last year. Maybe. So I'm overwhelmed

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by what he's done, especially the last two years, kind.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Of rebuilt his career. I mean, yeah, obviously went out
poorly before he's come back and and.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
I'm rolling, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know by
he was a by U quarterback and then a West
Coast head coach, and you know, I just didn't think,
of course he goes to work with Saban, but I
just didn't think, you.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Know, he was the one who would I don't know,
be stern enough or whatever.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
You'd say, you know to uh, but you.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Know Pete Pete Carroll did fabulous work.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
At USC and and wasn't that type. So it can
be done. But yeah, I am quite surprised.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Right, So you're I think you're based in the West.
Aren't you based in the west? But you're based in
the West, right right?

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
So do you already have your assignments like or have
you gone to Texas to do profiles?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
What's your plan for this year?

Speaker 6 (20:52):
It's too first off stop is to see Jeremiah Smith,
the receiver at at Ohio State and kind of and
visit with him and I be just before the season.
And then that first weekend let's see August thirty, and
then Monday night September one, I'm going to Texas at

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Ohio State. That's an awesully big, big thing to start
off things. And then I'm going to on Monday night
to the North Carolina game for the reasons that we
all we all know. And then the second week going
to Michigan at Oklahoma, which is, you know, two places
that didn't do as well as they're accustomed to last year,

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but that kind of makes it interesting.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Have you had a chance to do the Bill Belichick
North Carolina story yet or is this going to be
your first time?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
This is gonna be my first time, and what do
you think this is going to be some kind of atmosphere,
you know what I think about. I think about when
Bill Walsh went to coach Stanford.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Bill Walsh, for.

Speaker 6 (21:51):
Me, you can make the arguments as it just about
as great as Belichick in the in the he you know,
he won three Super Bowls as opposed to six, but
he also revolutionized the sport strategy wise and all that,
and then he goes and coaches Stanford, and I think,
as I recall, they had one really stellar season at

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the start and then it kind of fizzled. That's that's
sort of what I'm expecting out of it, you know.
I just I don't see it as being, you know,
where there'll surge to the top five or anything. But
but I just think it's a different game. And I
think what I don't have a handle on is how

(22:33):
he's enjoying the what they call the teaching part of it,
you know, because you have to do a lot more
of that at this level than he was before. But that,
to me is the really interesting part. Of it is
is if we start finding out midway through the first
season that that they're making these plays based on you know,
his his wisdom and his knowledge of the nuances, every

(22:55):
single last nuance of the sport. That'll that could be
when it gets to be, you know, a really compelling story.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, we've had had you on the show a few times.
I don't think we've talked about this, how the nil
or the new compensation that the guys are getting, the
players are getting, and well, the haves continue.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
To have and the have nots continued to have not.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
I think that's right with even more so, I think
it's about the same. I think the history of the
sport across what is it now, one hundred and fifty
six years always had this sort of what would you say,
the royals, you know, the big programs that locked it
to everybody else, and then every once in a while

(23:39):
you get a Miami to pop in there, like you
know what Miami did sort of breaking through all that
is still really historic and I sort of expected to
be about the same and that you know, there might
be opportunities with this for a few, maybe a few
more Miamis, especially with players transferring around and everything, and

(24:03):
you know, it's it's very hard. It's harder than I
can ever remember to have a feel for in August
for what's going to happen in October, November, December, because
you just don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
I was sitting with some guys yesterday and they were like,
how do you think you know Arizona's going to do?

Speaker 6 (24:17):
You know?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
much about the Big Twelve. We've been in the league
one one year. You know, Okay, I know that, you know,
Arizona State's supposed to be good Kansas State, but after that,
it's just who knows.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
It's kind of strange, it's and it's I think that
makes it to me the most interesting of the four
power leagues.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
You know that.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
I just think that I absolutely cannot tell what's what's coming.
And of course they had the last place pick whin
the thing last year not only fuels that feeling more,
but I think it's I think I think it's a
fascinating league with so many there's so many things to
the point to who might you know, I don't know

(25:04):
about Lennett, but who who might? And Arizona can look
at a little bit at how volatile the sport has
gone across recent seasons, and I think it, I really
do think it gives.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
A bit more hope than you might have had.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
A decade ago, or two decades ago, whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
No question, because it has it can actually win or
do really well in the Big twelve when it really
had no chance of doing in the big Big twelve. Right,
what's going to now that you're based, know that you're
still based in California?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
What's going to be made of USC?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
And you know, just some people UCLA having moved to
a different conference in a conference that it can't or
at least you see, LA can't. I mean the US
can't be the bully.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
I think it's hard to see them, both of them
anything more than struggling. I have a hard time at
this point being that you talk about a higher We
were talking about sarks Hire, Texas, and you know, I thought,
I didn't know what. I didn't think it was going
to be this. You know, Lincoln Riley's is in the

(26:09):
other directions. When he got hired at USC, I thought,
my goodness, gracious, that's going to be you know, I
was around in the Carrol days and I was working
in New York at that point, but they'd send me
out there sometimes and and remember sort of the atmosphere
around that program was just the probably the funnest ever,
you would say. The practices were just it was just

(26:31):
so much fun to go to a practice. I thought
it might be a little bit like that.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
I thought it'd be with Riley.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
I mean, I thought it would be a match that
would produce some glowing things. And I been surprised by
that too. And the UCLA, of course, just from the
quarterback this year, you're going to have to keep an
eye on it. I think that they both seem to
be struggling with the travel. Probably an undervalued story even

(27:00):
though we all know about it. Yeah, but I just
have to sort of, you know, pay attention to UCLA
because that could be interesting things could happen there. Given
me how we all know, the quarterback position is so
crucial to life.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
I was going to say, you recently wrote a piece
in the Post about the college football playoff.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
What are your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
You know, we're just a few weeks away from the
season and what we're going to see, say in the
next you know, a few years with that playoff.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
How it's going to shape up, Well, it's hard to
see it not expanding right all the things that you
to to maybe to sixteen or something.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
But I guess we're gonna.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Now that the the scheme of how it was seated
last year is, you know, is is different. I guess
we're going to see what if we're going to have
the first round be as complained about as last year's was.
I thought it was so of a one off thing
and a bit of a fluke that those games were

(28:04):
look like they you know, non competitive as they were.
But I think that it's I thought the whole thing,
as the twelve teams as a whole was great, and
I also thought the.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
The ranking. I've just I've just thought that all along that.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
The committee is the best system we've ever had. That
comes from maybe from a life of following the previous systems.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
And.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
I really like how the committee evaluates schedules and so on.
And sometimes they don't explain themselves very well. I find
they'll have a really what I consider to be a
sound decision, and then they'll they'll explain it in a
way that makes it seem not as sound.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
As it is.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
But I've really thought, even all eleven seasons that it
has worked very well. And I don't a little I
guess you read that, but I'm a little.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Puzzled by the sort of this.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
From strange places and sometimes too this uh this building's
sort of resentment against it and saying it's political and
so on. Well, so was, so was our past in
the sport you know, always have been well.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I want you to ask Chuck your question because
I know I screw it up Arizona compared to football
and blah basketball.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh, this is just a question we've had to debate
these guys that are having yesterday. Question we've had is
comparing Arizona basketball to a program that it's that's similar
to Arizona basketball and college football.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Oh, let's see college football.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I had mine off the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
He had his, one had his, and we had another
one that you chet chat did right chet GVD, which
was pretty good. So I want to get your because
you covered that's how I know you.

Speaker 6 (29:55):
You covered basketball for right right right, and I I
worked in Kentucky for nine years, so yeah, you know,
there's there's that, there's that identity. And then so where
will we put the Arizona identity. Oh, LSU came to

(30:15):
mind briefly, but you know, I could probably then turn
around and argue against myself for that. But they won
three national titles in football this century. LSU has with
three different coaches.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
Well, you talked about Texas, and we talked about that
all right away. Texas might be the although they have
three two right, but they think highly of themselves and
they're not as highly as they think they are.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah. And there's.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
I'm trying to think of Arizona in the sense that
it you know it, it didn't. I don't think it
always thought of itself that way, right, No, you know,
if we go back fifty.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Years, right of course, right right, So let me let
me throw the one I had and we'll go one.
Came up with Boise State. By state, he's he's a
younger gentleman. He kind of said, it's a recency bias
with the Boise State. I understand that. I guess mine
was Florida is Florida, and then I want one today
throughout he did chug GDBD and he said Penn State.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Penn State sounds pretty good to me.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, Oh well, don't you think my.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
My second choice was going to be Florida. It was
just just in that sense of, uh, there's almost a
parallel of years, you know, of the years that they've
they've risen to where they are. Funny too funny too
to say this about the national men's basketball champion of

(31:48):
the moment.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
But but yeah, I think Florida have just they have.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Three three football titles too, So maybe maybe that one
doesn't quite well that UNSU and Florida were the ones
I were thinking of in terms of they're not They
wouldn't have been considered thought about in that way as much, say,
fifty years ago, right, you know, and so they've built

(32:17):
up over the last fifth century and the expectations that
let have come with it.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, okay, you're coming. You know Penn State.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
I think I went to Penn State comparison. Yeah, so
rabid fan base, you know, a lot of history, successful,
successful coach, a couple of you know, iconic coaches, you know,
led them from.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
A number of years. I don't know, still trying to
get back to that. Yeah, no, and tough.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Are you covering budet Are you covering football the way
through the season? And then you're going to basketball or
are you going to do some basketball.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
I'm going to do uh football all the way through
the season, in the Winter Olympics, and then basketball.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Oh yeah, very nice.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Very nice.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I was asking because I thought I might see you
for the opening game Arizona and Florida in Vegas.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yeah. I think I'll be just delus in football at
that point.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Any lastly, maybe any sleeper team football wise, you think
that could sneak in in the twelve.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
I've been thinking all off season about Florida. Again, we
go back to Florida, but and I'm not I'm not
from there or anything. I didn't go there, but I've
been thinking all off season there's something there just and
you know, sometimes we fail at these projections because of a.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Strong close to us to a previous season. But the
truth is that all through the.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
Two thousands, teams that have had kind of seasons that
look like that have broken through very strongly the next year.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
So i'ven't.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
I've been thinking about that one a lot. I will,
and of course right there in that state, we have
to watch to see how Florida State recovers from what
was absolutely must have been just excruciating to be around.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
So I think a lot of.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
My yeah, I'll be I'll be looking at those two,
but especially the Gators. I just I just get this
feeling that it's about to, you know, restore itself to
somewhere close to where it has been at times.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Okay, I'm going to draft Kings right now. Yeah, a
lot of good stuff. College football is great. I mean
it just does you know, you don't have no you
have no preseason, you know, boom, August whatever, August twenty ninth,
August thirtieth.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
It's fun.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
And you know, what happened with Arizona State last year
makes I think that one story by itself. There are others,
but it makes this season look just full of possibilities
right right.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Well people talk about that. Why not here? Right? Everyone says, well,
how come it can happening here?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Well?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Chuck, thanks, thanks for your time. Is always good luck
on the road.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Thanks, talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Thank you so much, Chuck Cuck Culpepper from the Washington Post.
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Speaker 2 (39:21):
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Speaker 4 (39:35):
Good to talk to Chuck. Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Good to catch up with that, because I mean, college
football is right around the corner obviously, and he's got
one of those cool jobs where he gets to kind
of pick and choose. I guess where he wants to go.
And you know, why not go talk to Belichick after
his first game or go to Tech?

Speaker 6 (39:50):
You know that?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
The Texas Ohio State game is going to be a
monster right right off the bat. That's like the biggest
one over real long time.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yeah, opening game. Yeah, so that should be fun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
The Post does a pretty good job because it's not
a day to day you know, cover games and write
the game. But now it's more of a big profile features.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Well, I mean, who are they going to cover Maryland?

Speaker 5 (40:13):
We don't really have much college football themselves to cover there,
but be in a national newspaper like that.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Right, And that's exactly what it is. It's more of
a national situation. It's kind of the athletic They go in,
don't cover games, they just give you situations or analysis
on what they just saw.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, remember the place the newspaper back in the day
had to be late eighties, early nineties, the national Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
I just remember they snatched the numbers of really good writers.
I think Frank the Ford some people like that were
going over there. It was a big That was a
big moment because that's when you're thinking that the media
had changed, right, that it's like a band, get the
best from each each band and.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Bring them on to one p Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
Well they you know, and those are the days when
you would go pick the paper up at Circle K
or you know, or you have you know, even delivered
to your house something like the National.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
But that was short lived. It was only five years.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well that the Athletic is going through too. They had
some great writers. I had to let some go another
under the New York Times kind of spotlight. But people
are running out of money. They buy these things.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
They run out of money.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah, when was the last time you bought a paper
here locally?

Speaker 5 (41:20):
I couldn't tell you. I mean I do not I
hate to say this. I mean I subscribe to it online,
but I don't go pick one up anymore.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
We kind of stopped it. You just kind of you
knows it's dated.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, by the time it arrives on in the morning, sure,
or it doesn't have the results from the night before
because they're printing it in Phoenix and.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Vegas.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
In Vegas now as far away. Yeah, open in October.
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, no, so I would just asked, because I don't
have your subscription.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
I used to have it. Now I rarely do it.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But I went Sunday and I picked up the paper
on Sunday four bucks. I said, where in the hell
have I been?

Speaker 5 (41:56):
You know where I used to do it quite a bit,
was on on airplanes at the airport. Like I mean,
I used to love to get like the La Time
Sunday paper, yeah whatever they call it, the calendar section
that had all the entertainment news.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
And things like that, and that would I would just read.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
I picked the stuff out that I wanted, sports section,
the calendar, maybe the editorials, and yeah, that was good
to go.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
But now you can do it, you know, on your
on your iPad.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I want too.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, the game has changed so much, and like you're
talking about with the Washington Post, a lot of those
guys are no longer there.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
They're going somewhere else. Yeah, you said, Sally Jenkins.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Sally Jenkins, you know, the daughter of Dan Jenkins, who
wrote you know, some of our great sports books of
all time.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Semi tough. He was like that.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Her, you know, she's had quite a long career, been
she left the Washington Post just in the last I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
A few weeks.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Well, so, yeah, and I didn't realize maybe I just
wasn't paying attention, but the Winter Olympics were just around
the corner.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, February of twenty twenty six in Italy? Is that
where that at? He's going there and he's not gonna
be able to see Arizona.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Is the game the Florida it's because he's not doing
he covers all the football and then he jumps in
the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, so this is November fourth.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
That'll be like right after the national Championship game February whatever, tenth, right,
which went the Olympics College football championship game.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Oh yeah, how far late it goes.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Into It was early February last last year. That's the
Super Bowl. I mean maybe maybe mid mid January, mid January. God,
it seems so long though, I mean remember well remember
just not too long ago. We covered the games in
December twenty ninth. There's the or January one.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, and then that was it.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Now it's forever.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
That'll be interesting with Texas because that's you know, another
big you know, blockbuster school and famous coach, famous quarterback.
You know, it's kind of got everything going for him here.
Of course, the athletic director used to be here. Chrystal
CONTI he is, he.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Is floating in money, Yeah, floating in money, and they
just wont to base the softball title.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
He Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I mean, come on, the wealth of riches continues to
get richer.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
That was one thing we I mean we touched on
it with Chuck about nil and he was talking about
some of the schools that kind of popped every once
in a while.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
But Texas Tech is one to watch.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
I mean, they got this one guy who's just dishing
out for money for these too much, just signed like
a nine hundred thousand dollars deal.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Freshman wasn't even played yet. Yeah, Texas Tech tackle.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
We talked to We had the Texas Tech died on remember,
and he talked about that. I was here one of
these days right now.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Just crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Are you a believer in that you pay extra extra
or a lot don't for players and they turn out
I don't really believe in this kind of like moment
momentum word yeah, where because you know you've seen this
money kind of destroyed some programs.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
It's gonna be kind of interesting just to look back, like, Okay,
this is what so and so school did in twenty
twenty five, and let's see in five years what really happened,
you know, with the results on the field.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Did it matter?

Speaker 6 (44:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Brought in exactly. It's kind of like how we did
with recruiting, which I absolutly hate. You know, you get
this recruiting class, Oh, it's the top ten, and then
four years later when you reevaluate, well, it wasn't as
good as we thought they would be.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Here it happens here all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Well, I think now though, the reason that's the top
ten is because they're getting players already and they're saying, well,
they're gonna be a top ten class because we got
this guy and we paid them, you know, a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Now, you can't even say about the recruiting classes because
they're mostly transfer classes. It's true.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
You know, I don't know how many freshmen are going
to play for the UFA this year. It's going to
be mostly transfers. Well, look at basketball. Everyone's talking highly.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
A lot of people are talking out everyone talking highly
about this basketball team.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
And I'm thinking, yeah, as you should. They're not going
to be in the top fifteen when they first start
the season. But now you're relying on because what a
bunch of freshmen, right, the Copetes, the Burys.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
A couple of others. Good luck with that. Good luck
with it.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
You know is the breaking breaking time usually takes you
know what, Maybe maybe not so much for these guys,
but still it's such a difference.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'll give you the guy who just left as a freshman.
It was it was in the lottery. Took him a while, Yeah,
took him two three months in January.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Never really awesomed, No, honestly, really, I mean he had moments,
but you know, consistently scoring, you know, fifteen to twenty
game No, No, you're right, No, you're right.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Go to the lottery.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
I don't think he necessarily needed to either. And they
of Arizona they needed Caleb Low to become the guy,
and he did, but at the cost of maybe Jayden
Bradley not scoring as much, Carter Brian not scoring as much.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, we'll see now, we'll see now because he's gone, right, Yeah,
both of them are gone. But he's gone, Caleb. Now,
where are they going to get the scoring from. It's
gonna be the freshman, it's gonna be there, It's going
to be.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Bradley, it's gonna Copete Colpete's going to be a monster here. Yeah,
and in double double every game.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, and Crevis is gonna have to be a double
a double scorer and a eight rebound guy. He looked
good to I mean look good, and you know they're
working out and they're not paying against anybody, but but
he physically looked better.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
He ran well things like that.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Yeah, I mean the stuff I was hearing was that
Burry's is going to start, apparently with CoA freshman.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Well, go ahead and start to and then grievous. Yeah,
that sounds about right. But they have they have, They're
gonna have a nice little eight guy rotation.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I don't want to say more than that, because by
by February, late February time, he tightens down and doesn't
go past eight.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
How did is his name? Evan?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Evan Nelson the Stanford Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, Harvard.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, it's hard to see because there's because they're out
there running and playing and shooting, but they're not there,
we'll see how serviceable they're going to be. It fills
the roster out and they're good, they're smart guys. Uh,
we'll see against the U S. We'll see against the
the In this schedule, we'll see it's.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Gonna be there's no time games and you know, locals
and not gonna have easy home games.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
And Tommy doesn't trust easily. I mean, he would go
with his guys until they disappoint him, because that's how
it's been the last four years. Do you think that
he has to be better than sweet sixteen this year?
I mean, it would be be nice to finally break
that barrier.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
It's been you know, kind of expected, different types of teams,
different types of players.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
What you know, what what else can he do? I
mean I don't I don't know where they where are
they lacking?

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, in fact, some would say he's over undercheat given
the seed two and one. Uh, you know it's hard,
he said, it takes time to break through.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yes, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
I mean, we're all college fans, we've all seen the
program for years and years, and you know, you think
eventually they're going to get.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, I didn't know this and and he's admitted he
didn't know him. Mike Dunlap, we had him on the
first hour to those who didn't listen that he was
he thought really highly of Tommy and.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Spoke probably everything that I thought.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
You know, he's smart, he studies, and he knows certain
certain circumstances right well.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
I mean, and he you know, emphasized the things that
we've kind of talked about, you know, his European knowledge
of how he's getting players. I mean, every season we've
got a couple of guys from Europe and they've worked
out pretty well. But Mike Dunlap as a coach can
really pick that out and say, yeah, you know, Tommy
knows what he's doing with these whatever he made some
description of a play, I never even a backdoor cut
or something right right right, European back door right right. Well,

(49:30):
guess what he has that same background, having coached it
at Australia.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
In Australia, chasing the same guys. Because if you're kind
of good, kind of good, wouldn't kind of good fit
perfectly at MESA.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, maybe not good for here,
but over there.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
I mean it's a level below but you know, getting
guys that you know, maybe just weren't ready for D one,
but they could play D two and then they come
off good junior college careers, like the two U p
M guys that are that are on the roster.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
So who are the kids you said?

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Good Gonzales who we had on the show one of
the times that was there, and west Ball who went
to Marana.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Okay, so they're both they're both there.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Yeah, getting cold in Grand Junction?

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Well not yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's beautiful there
now right right, that's where you you want to be
until until November. Yeah, but you know it's a good
place to go. Sure, a couple more years of basketball,
learn from a coach who's been in an NBA championship
coach education, get your education.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
So it's a good deal.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Okay, any wisdom from the kid over here today after
my boys stay, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
It's best to be quiet, that's a good question.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
I like that best to be quite quite didn't criticized, no,
but I think it's it's to your generation, you know,
to your people. I think maybe that's part of it,
because there are they are successful at a certain level,
most recently in the last twenty years, right, were you
alive when they had the Oklahoma State the statue home, Yeah,

(50:58):
the statue.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yes, you know, I wasn't even sports at that time, Okay,
I was. It was like two thousand and three. There's
some three Yeah, the statue of Liberty play and.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
The guy proposed opposed to his the cheerleader girlfriend, right, right,
But that's kind of how boys he is.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
That's pretty good. In the last twenty years, they'll have
some magic. That's a good comparison. But I do like
the bigger school because I just think a bigger school.
When he was he mentioned Florida. You guys have mentioned
Florida past stage, you know, the pest state thing. I'd
like to lsu, lsu. I'm not sure. That's too many national.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Championships in football.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Yeah, and they're bigger than they're bigger than they're bigger
than that, just maybe perceptually.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Yeah, okay, were we almost ready? We're ready to go?
Are we good show to get you today?

Speaker 9 (51:42):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Thank you, thank you for coming in tomorrow will probably
have Blake Juan Right, we got a great show. We
gotta we got a boogie downtown, all right. Thanks everybody
for listening. Thanks Don for the call. We'll talk to
you tomorrow.