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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve Rivera.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
He's got his eye on the ball on Tucson Sports
Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifth day.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your d You're Dave, and
we're gonna continue our stling. Anybody want to call him
join us, that'd be Greade five two zero four one
six seventy. Get your input on whatever big weekend for
indoor football if you have a chance, and you have
some money and I want to have some fun. Downtown

(00:31):
they have a pre game and all that stuff downtown
inside indoors, not outside, so that should be fun. Dave,
you gotta go.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
My my interns are going. Everyone's going just to show support.
Do you see that.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
You know they're doing these concerts that you have had
football games. Jack's gonna be here.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
I saw that as I was walking in.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
They moved it here because he found that Arizona was
his special like he loved Arizona.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
There was something special that.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You give me.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Give me the update.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
This is October third, bare Down Fields. That's the field
like right behind the stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Right north of it.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yep a k He's going to be the DJ Diesel
and I guess that's his his stage name. Headlines post
I don't know what does this mean? Most headlines post
on this concert?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:22):
Was it postponed at some point and then they moved it? No,
I'm sure no.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Arizona and Dusk Music Festival have joined forces again for
Post Slash Move presented by cors Light and Iconic one
night concert featuring NBA Hall of Famer and television personality
and chart topping DJ Shaquille O'Neal aka DJ Diesel. The
party will take place October third on the field following
the Red Blue Showcase. This is actually going to be

(01:49):
after the basketball game. Huh yeah, Whilebron come. I wonder
maybe Lebron oct.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
It's going to be a busy weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
David.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We talk about this because and you're a stud here,
a former student. If you want to get the crowds
to come to games.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
You got to get the students.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You gotta get to get them students and gimmicks like this.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh so bring the crowd.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
That's how you get them in the door, because then
you say, hey, if you walk next door, you can.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Go see Z and Zo.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
The night will also feature the legendary mix master Mike
of Beastie Boys fame, performing a back to back DJ
set with Tommy Lloyd Tommy Lovely aka Hey DJ Tommy
on stage.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
We gotta gotta go to that. Gotta be cool, We
gotta be cool. So you gotta start working on your coolness. Okay,
we'll call you, uh D Silver.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
On the micing now while you're on the mic.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Now we've got a D here, so c DS we
can do something.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Maybe, Yeah, and I'm just gonna be here, hello guy.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Steve will be the calm.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Never come but cool. That's October third, you Saidtber.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's a Friday. It's the night before a home game
against Oklahoma State for and I guess the Red Blue
must be that night.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right, Just it's already coming up.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, it's five six, a couple of months away.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
It's gonna fly by. It's going to be here before
you know it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Look at you, you're talking like they're seventy.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
I've lived some life since I've left, Steve, it's flying
by in La.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Does that?

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It does the streets of La.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Okay, no cool, anything else, David? Would you just get
that an email or what.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It's on the Arizona Wildcat's website. It's kind of pushed
out there today. You know, they're trying to do all
these things, putting those little tables and chairs on the field.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
You saw that.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
It's the sweet pictures, those very sweet. That's considered as sweet.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, I have my own thoughts about that.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
I think it's I think those are going to be
the biggest pain in the butt to see.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Well, that's my point. So they put you.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
On the uh turf level, the field level. I hate
to tell you some of those linemen they're legitimately six
four six, five sixty six. It's like looking through a
door someone who's been on the sidelines and has had
to been like literally pulled out of the way because
I couldn't see through the player in front of me.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
You're not going to see the game.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
The idea behind it is probably for the experience to
be on the field and for the medical staff.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's where all the stuff goes.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
Like the amount of stuff that they are now taking
up room for, like our trunks, our chests, the power
aid carts, the giant fans like those are pain in
the butt to set up. Like we wouldn't I don't
know how they're gonna have access to the host pickets now,
Like I don't know whose idea that was, but I
think it was a bad decision.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I think they're going to eat it.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I agree in terms of being able to see even
when we're down there, you know, as reporters, you really
can't see much unless it's right in front of you,
unless you're elevated a little bit. Well, you can see
anything down the other end of it.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
They look like they're elevated just a little bit, but
it's still not going to be enough to clear all
of the trunks and the fans that.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Are going to be on these new stadiums I know
so far, and even the Cardinals I think have like
a viewing section down like in the end zone right
basically so you can so you know, you can see
the field in front when you're on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, well, you've been two games where they put the
media on the sidelines just above the cheerleaders are just
like a step be alone, and you can't. You're still saying,
come on, get down. That's just how it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, and I'll be curious, Yeah, I want to see.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
You with the song, and I'll be more curious to
see what kind of security issues they have with that,
because I'm sorry that Zona Zoo gets a little rowdy,
and that's that's on the Arizona sideline.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's yeah, they get routy into the halftime and then
they take off.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
But how many people are you gonna see now try
and jump onto the field because now they have a
platform to get down to.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Sorry, I've been in that Zona Zoo. I've been on
the field. I've seen both. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
We'll see they figure that out.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
They gotta win, gotta win, babyta win.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Well, that's only gonna make it worse.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
So yeah, I see it quote from Shock and it
makes sense now. Arizona has been a special place for
me since two thousand and eight when I was traded
to the Phoenix Suns because remember they had the camp here. Yeah,
they had the camp here for a couple of years.
I think when Steve was the GM. Yep, it was great.
We interviewed him.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
He was good. He's always a good interview.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
One of the how much time do we have? No
one time. I may have told this story once before,
but it was during that period when he was on
the Suns. I don't think they were in town at
that moment. Anyway, We've got a phone call at the
TV station saying Shaq is going to be in Tucson,
gonna he's gonna go to the one of the Indian
reservations and deliver basketballs too. I remember that, and we're like, really,

(06:24):
who's who is this calling?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Is this?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Is this really going to happen? We called the Sons.
They had no idea what was going on. I said,
I don't, we don't know anything about this. Maybe he's
doing it on his own. So I just said, let's
just go. Let's just go see lo and behold, he
shows up in a Bentley and you know, we're going
an autumn reservation for him. They were ready for him,
he knew he was coming. I mean, he must have
set it up on his own. So he had some

(06:48):
ties to somebody here in southern Arizona. Well remember he
was a sheriff.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yes, Well, you know he's a bright dude.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
You know why Yeah, because he's doing a lot of
different things where he's he makes more money than anybody.
And now he's Bibby's GM it's right because we had
Mike on the show.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I mean he really he's like for advertising, he's got
the golden touch. I mean, you know on TNT. You
know he's okay, but there's something about Shaq puts his
name onto something.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
It does really well. Yeah, I have just because of him.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
You said you were ordering pizza just because of him.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
No, he does that too, doesn't her insurance?

Speaker 5 (07:26):
That's at all?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, I mean general.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Look what he does.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Shack October third, bredown Field.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
He just saw a crazy meme with him fire you see.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And part of the end of the story, Matt Authick's
daughter is a rapper.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh really, did not hold that out?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Mattten the old you have a basketball player in fact,
thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I invited him to come to the campus weekend and
he's too busy with his son, who's a pretty good.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Basketball Okay, Well, his daughter is a I don't know
if she goes here. Natalie Athic djic? Is there how
many dj are in this town? Hey, I'm doing a wedding.
Could you get Shack here? I needed him to spin
some tunes or if he can't show up, getting this
offic on here we'll see what happens. Wow, a lot

(08:13):
of things going on. Yeah, well it's busy, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, if you're going to create a craziness, why
not bring people to the games and stick I hope
they stick around for football matter.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Hope. It's just within walking distance of everything.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And if Lebron comes for the Red Blue, which wouldn't
be surprising, right to see Bryce.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, man, it could be wild Shack and Lebron.

Speaker 8 (08:35):
Great.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Great to be live, great to belive in Arizona. Now
you just got to win. Now you're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
What did you leave? Second year?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Third year?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Not the Oklahoma year?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And they beat Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Afore the basketball season?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, no, no football football.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
I left twenty twenty two, so I was here for
Jedfish's entire first year. So three years of Sunling, one
year of Jetfish.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You should you deserve a race?

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
I got a couple of reason.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I was there four wins in four years.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Yeah, it just slowly kept going downhill and getting worse.
And some people, for whatever reason, I have run into
quite a few ASU people in Arizona and not Arizona,
I'm sorry, in LA and they all love to bring
up that yeah, and I'm just like, you know, as
someone who was on the field for that game, I
don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Some bad history there, Yeah, a little bad strum is
quite an incredibly bad stretch of Arizona football. At least
they seem to be out of it a little bit.
I mean, you know, let's see.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
I think we're gonna learn a lot this year.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
I saw the article about this being someone's last group
of kids that are finally like making their way through.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
We're fun. Really, we're through it almost.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
There's a couple of guys that are still on the team,
guys that I knew when they first came in as freshman,
that I worked with and I saw him on the team,
but that someone recruited that Jetfish played with them, and
it's it's interesting. I was like, okay, so what's the
vibe are we are we good?

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Are we not good? What's the vibe?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think that's the biggest question. I mean, what is
that We'll see.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
It's weird because now you have a mixture of three
different coaches and players coming in from different three different.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
Different recruiting directions and coaches, and everybody's got their own idea,
so I think it definitely says something about loyalty that
they've been here this long. We don't We've talked about
loyalty so many times, Steve about the transfer portal and
NIL coming into effect, and we just we don't see
it very often.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, Brennan talked about that. You know, he's got the
guys that decided to stay and are bought in. My
whole thing is with that is that they have to
be It's.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Easy to talk to talk about that, you got to
walk well.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I better walk the walk in if you're going to
be in, play hard and play for your coach. Yeah no, bs, no,
you know I'm here, I got I'm getting paid pretty
good money. Uh, and I'm gonna get paid and if
I do well, I gues where I'm gonna leave somewhere.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
I think some of it also goes not just the
players need to walk the walk, but we need to
see Brennan walk the walk. He's got to show that
he actually belongs.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
In the Big twelve.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
He can rally these guys, they can want to play
for him, but if he's being out coached during games,
that's not necessarily a.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Guess he's got this year to do that.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yes, this is the year we need to see.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
That that's coming from love.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Sure, it's going to be wide open.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
I mean a.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Former water girl, you know, whatever you want to tag
it with.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Suppose there's like maybe three or four favorites and and
then's everybody else. Oh yeah, yeah, So Arizona needs to
be in that upper group, somewhere in the top give
me six, O, twelve, sixteen, how about maybe in the
top ten top after last year even then, because you've talked,

(11:53):
I think you've said, what seven and five? Yeah, somewhere
in seven and five.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
They wouldn't get you there. Four games last season.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, we were looking at the schedule.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
I figured they need to get to about six or
seven to show that they're actually making that quote unquote improvement.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
And that no less than six because you know on
new ad fairly new ad pressure, YadA yadas.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Oh yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Mean two gimmes right off the break, right off the bat.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
You'd hope they're gimmes. You hope we've been through this before.
You'd hope they're gimmys.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I told these guys a couple of days ago.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Do you remember in a you Steve I was on
the field.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
How was it on the field?

Speaker 6 (12:30):
It was just I think shock was the general emotion
that everyone had.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
They everyone was just kind of like how did we
get here? Like how did this?

Speaker 6 (12:41):
And even like the coaching staff was just kind of perplexed,
like we had the it's personal, and it was very
much personal that season for those guys, and it was
very much personal for Jedfish, especially after that win or
that loss. I should say, because how do you not
beat an AU They come in and you Arizona, pay
them to play us and they win.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Got a good look.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Didn't their coach really come back with it's personal? Or
some of the.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Players with with with Troy the other day, it is
because as we were leaving, well as a game was ending,
you don't have the coaches get into the elevator to
come down.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
We own Arizona. It's personally Arizona.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Well, a lot of teams did that all season.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
They knew that was our motto, and they they wanted
to play on it.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
They're like, yeah, it's personal to us too, because we
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Speaker 8 (19:00):
Steve Aaron Torres? What's going on?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
But one of my favorite guys, not that a whole lot.
That's why we want you.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Are you doing?

Speaker 15 (19:08):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (19:09):
So you only bring me on when there's nothing you
got a few hours to kill untill we get to
actual football. See, I'll say this guys, you guys I
think we're all in this together, is that there's a
lot of grinding. That we're all lucky to do what
we do, but it's a grind from about late April

(19:31):
till August.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
And this really feels.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
Like the last week we were really not going to
have stuff to talk about. So anyway, I'm glad I
could go a few minutes for you guys, and uh,
whatever you guys want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
You you are spot on with that because Dave has
been my guest in the summer that says, what are
we gonna do? We were gonna have no but you
know you're more than that to me. Did you break
your news that you had to come out with or
not yet?

Speaker 8 (19:56):
Uh? Yeah, I mean it's you know, there's some things
going on with me, uh you know, with the advertisers
and stuff. I don't know who your guys advertisers are,
so I'm always hesitant to say who I'm working with.
I actually got a guy fired one time because I
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employers competitors. So yeah, I know, we've got a lot

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things like that, and you guys know what, you know,
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(20:38):
it'll kind of allow me to travel a little bit
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see what's going on in my world, they can check
it out there for sure.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, what, you know, what do you focus on here
in the next couple of weeks as we get, you know,
kind of ready for college football to start literally like
on a couple of days, but the NFL in a
couple of weeks. You know what, what is the hot
topic in your in your world?

Speaker 8 (21:05):
You know, I think it's I want to call this
the hot topic. I would call this the anti hot topic.
But I think now more than ever, I'm coming to
the realization that as we continue to professionalize college sports
and college football, the Pilers that be in college football
need to figure out a better way to create more
excitement at this time of the year. You know, I

(21:26):
watch Hard Knocks and you know, the Buffalo Bills. I
certainly don't think they have fans there every day, but
you know, they got they got the bands there. You know,
there's a media availability basically every day, and you know,
I understand that it's a burden to the coaches, and
I understand that it's a burden to the players, but
guess what these coaches are all making. You know, in
some cases eight figures. The players are all making money.

(21:49):
And to me, it's just it's a the serves to
the band guys, because you know, I turn on all
these news, these news shows, and every day there's a
new Aaron Rodgers or a new Caleb William's topic because
they make those guys available to media. And so I'm
hoping that as we evolved in college sports that we
get there. It's funny I was on in Knoxville a

(22:11):
few hours ago, obviously the University of Tennessee, and they
basically have no media availability, no open practices, no anything.
And I said, that's where the commissioner got to step
in because those fans that are paying a lot of
money deserve more than they're getting. So I think, honestly,
the big story is that there is no stories right now.
Thankfully that's gonn't change. But you know, I'm doing all

(22:33):
my standard preseason content. I'll make my picks, you know,
for the season over the course of the next week
or so. National Champion, Heisman Trophy, all that kind stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, I know you're a young man, so I won't
ask you your age, but were you around Dave and
I are are older men, and we were around in
the good old days, you know, open locker rooms. You
wanted a guy, you asked for him, they brought you
to him. You did a story, and it was a
different story than anybody else because you had the talk.
I mean they talked to somebody else. Were you around
for that or at all? Because now it's all it's

(23:04):
all dictated by them, No it is.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
And you know, I'll say this, I think maybe more
so in basketball than football, but I think some schools
are starting to get it. I've never covered professional sports.
I really don't know. Uh, Steve, I know you were
on the Arizona beat for a long time. I don't
know if you ever covered for pro sports. But you know,
like I think some of these colleges are starting to

(23:29):
get it. You know, I'll give so I lived in
LA I'll give USC credit. Coach Musselman obviously, uh you
know a USC he you know, he had about you know,
the schools are allowed what ten practices, eight eight practices,
I think it's eight weeks of practice. And he had
three or four media availabilities and he opened it up.

(23:50):
Anybody who's in the media that wanted to come came.
You know, Kentucky they made their players available to the
media every single week this summer. And like I said,
I think there's almost guys and I don't want to
you know, nerd out and you know go all you know, journalists,
you know, scoring journalists on people. But I think in

(24:11):
the nil era there's almost the responsibility as of fans,
and the fans are being asked for more than they've
ever been asked for it before. And you know, my thought,
Bussus is without paying these athletes, you know, a substantial
amount of money. The coaches, as I said, are well compensated,
but a lot of times in this portal era, you know,
you don't know the players, and so I do think

(24:32):
there's an obligation by the schools. Some get it, a
lot of them don't. But to answer your question, Steve,
I can't sit here and say that I really did
much in the good old days, where you know, everything
was through sports information or whatever, and you know, as
long as you know, as long as you don't you
know score anybody, they're usually pretty good. But as you said, Steve,
it's you know, even as I've been doing in the

(24:54):
last fifteen years, ten years, whatever, it's a lot more,
you know, on the terms of sports information, who they
make available, what they make available. You know, you can't
get them one on one or somebody looking over your shoulder,
and so yeah, it's it's it's it's nothing but a
detriment to the fans. And I do hope that again,
as we get deeper into this NIL era, we find

(25:15):
some sort of balance.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
This might be a little far fetched, but I've heard
some people talking about it recently, speaking of NIL and
college athletes, where an athlete could maybe sign a deal
with one media outlet and give that outlet kind of
exclusive coverage. I've heard that kind of tossed around a
little bit, where hey, you know, I'm the star basketball

(25:39):
player at Duke and I want to sign with you know,
somebody on DC and they're going to pay me, you know,
a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Do you think that's possible?

Speaker 5 (25:49):
To crazy?

Speaker 8 (25:51):
I mean, I think, you know, like I know, Tom
Brady had an exclusive with the Boston radio station every week,
but the team still made him available after games. And again,
I know the NFL is different from college. I would
think that, you know, let's just use Caleb Love as
an example. Is you know, even if he signs an
exclusive with ESPN two sign to come on once a

(26:14):
week or once a month or whatever, and that's the
only outside media he's doing. I would think, and I
would hope that they would still make make and I
think they would have to make him available after games.
The one thing I will say, guys, and we're still
do in this you know, this world that we live in.

(26:34):
This is gonna sound super nerdy and kind of behind
the scenes, but I do think that I have seen
even these type profile players. I think the schools have
a good relationship with their people from the perspective of, hey,
you know, if you want to set up some stuff
outside of what we're doing. That's fine, just let us know.
You know, I know, for an example, you know, there's

(26:55):
a pretty high profile college basketball player that you know,
I'm expecting the inner view sometime before the season, and
I kind of dealt with one of his personal people.
But when he said, hey, look, we still have to
run this by the school, and so I hope those
relationships still exist. And then to your guys point, you know,
I certainly would hope and would think that again, even

(27:17):
if Caleb Love has an exclusive with you know, when
some outlet in Tucson that they would still make them
available after he scored thirty points in the game. You know.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, we're talking to Aeron Torres from the Aeron Torres podcast.
Let me let's talk about it was on a football
and then we'll talk real quick about basketball. What's your
sense about the football program with Brennan's second year.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yeah, you know, listen, you guys are in a day
to day obviously from a national scale. You know, I saw,
you know, I saw everything unfold last year. It wasn't pretty.
I know how high expectations were. And the one thing
I will say, you know, we talk about media coverage.

Speaker 10 (27:58):
Listen, you guys.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
Are in it every day, so you guys can co
better to it. But I know that a lot of
the frustration was, you know, the previous coaching regime, they
were kind of always available if you want to do
an interview or whatever, and I think this last year
maybe they the new staff wasn't and the new staff
kind of felt like they were hiding some things or whatever,

(28:20):
and so you know, it seems like they've been out
more in community this year, more available. I don't think
in the years. To me, I don't have the chusan
that there's been a couple of open practices for the last
couple of weeks, so it seems like they're winning the
fans back. Now, none of that matters if you don't
win on Saturdays. But I think it was an adjustment
period for everybody.

Speaker 13 (28:41):
I know.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
They shook up the offense and coaching staff. I do
expect improvement. It's hard not to after a season like
last year, but I do expect some degree of improvement.
I think the biggest difficulty is the Big Twelve is
just so tough. It's like every single team in that
league can seemingly beat any other. And then you guys
that on top of it, you basically got an extra

(29:02):
league game that is in the league game with Kansas State.
So I think the team will be improved. I think
the products will be improved. But again, there's just so
many good teams in that league that it's hard to
put a definitive runner on it.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, we were talking earlier, maybe right before you came on.
If Arizona can get into that top eight, that'll be,
uh be a productive year for them, a successful years.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
I think that's fair. And here's the thing. If there's
certain leagues where if you finish in the top half
you're not a good team. In the Big twelve, I
think you're a good team because again, you know, uh,
they were won six straight to end of the year.
We know what Arizona State game. Last year, Colorado won
nine games, Utah went down. But I don't think any
of us expect them to have that season this coming year.

(29:54):
Kansas State won nine games or whatever it was. So
you know, sometimes you hear in the top half of
the league and you think it's a disappointing season, and
I think a lot of places it would be. You know,
you you you finished in the top half of the league,
that could be like a five and four you know,
league record, and this league get me pretty good. So again,
so I wasn't really a question much as it was

(30:15):
as a statement, But I don't think uh uh finish
finishing in the top half of the league. You're certainly
gonna be more eligible and you're probably gonna have a
couple of nice hits on your resume before it's all
set is done.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
How are you with the college football playoff and some
of the talk that's been going around, you know that
really since last year's games, with you know, trying to
expand and you know, what are your feelings about that?

Speaker 8 (30:43):
I hate it, you know, the honest yeah. I mean
it's not even that I'm a purest name. It's just
you know, listen, you know the gap between even really
good and okay, Like I mean, you go back to
last year and you know, this hot this this is
something that ever, I want to condniently forget. All four
of those Poshound games were absolutely dunk in blowouts. There

(31:06):
was nothing to even talk about because I think every
single game was at least the two touchdown you know, differential,
and you know, and I think part of it was,
you know, it's in Indiana. Was a good team with
a good year, but you put them on a field
of Notre Dame, all of a sudden, they don't look
that good SMU. You put them at Penn State. You know,
that's different. That's a different level. So you know, here's

(31:29):
my thing, guys, is I've never really understood why we won.
I never really was in favor of you, and expanding
past four, I was in the minority there. I understand
why we went to twelve. And then it was interesting
because I felt like in the spring and the summer,
the powers that be just convinced the media and the
fans that, well, we're going to sixteen, so like, you know,

(31:52):
let's just talk about sixteen. And I was like, why
don't we have to go to sixteen? And I think
as time has gone on, as we can't quite figure
out the format, I think a lot of people are
in the camp of maybe we go with twelve for
a few more years, see how this goes. So that's
where I think it should stay. Obviously, if we're talking
this twenty four to eight playoff, like the story that

(32:13):
broke this week, frankly, that's just idiotic. And at this point,
you know, why do you even play a regular season?
And I think to me, that's part of the reason
why I'm not his favorite going test twelve is because
college football is the best regular season that we have,
and the more you as to the postseason, the less
meaningful the regular team becomes. And I think that's a

(32:35):
bad way for college football's powers that be to look
at things.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
That's a good point, a very good point. Let's move
to basketball while we have you for a little bit longer.
Tommy Lloyd reloads gets some pretty good players.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
What do you see there?

Speaker 8 (32:49):
Really talented team? You know, I think obviously, you know,
I think Arizona fans knew what they had. But I
think even after this summer where he goes to that
international tournament with a Boord gold medal with Team USA,
you know, I think he was just kind of a
forgotten guy in that recruiting class. He has been so
good for so long and so consistent for so long,

(33:13):
and I think everybody kind of, you know, got interested
in the new shining point and they forgot how good
he was. So I think once everybody realized, oh wait
a second, that dude could be like a eighteen and ten,
a night kind of guy in the Big twelve. Maybe
that's a little aggressive, you know, sixteen and nine, fifteen
to nine, whatever. You know, he's going to get his
fair share of double doubles all of a sudden, once

(33:34):
everybody realizes that, it changes the trajectory and the healing
of the team. You know, obviously we all know what
Jaden Bradley is capable of. At this point, I think
I'm excited about, you know, Brandon Burrays. I know everybody's
decided about Branbury's, but I just bring it up because
I think, all of a sudden, you look at those
two different makers in the freshman class, and then all
of a sudden, he realized why Tommy Lloyd wasn't as

(33:55):
aggressive in the portal and wasn't as aggressive and bringing
in other players out side of the pression. So I'm excited,
Y'all'll be honest. I keep hearing great things about Dwayne
Aristotle here howlready say his name. I really don't know
much about him, and I know he was hurt for
his senior year, but that's the guy that you know,
I just need to learn a little bit more about

(34:15):
because everybody that's actually seen him, especially a late raised
about him, but I just haven't come up.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Did you have a chance to see because Steve went
over to the practice They did open a practice for
basketball last week.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
She complained at all about the media then, and now
I know it's Robin Elbo. Okay, you don't listen.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
You don't listen to the show enough, I complain about
everything I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So let's ask how.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Can people find what you do about Arizona because you
do a lot.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Arizors podcast is on College Sports
every Day, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, wherever you get podcasts. Then
we do have the tours on Arizona page, which is
uh an Arizona specific page, call my ara Zona coverage.
You know, we have an intern that helps me run that.
We might be in the market for a new intern.
So if there's any Arizona students listening that want to

(35:08):
maybe work with me, you can reach out to me
aeron Torres Podcast Questions at gmail dot com, find me
on social media whatever. But yeah, man, I like you said,
especially once we did the basketball, maybe football too a
couple of years ago. I talked a lot of Arizona football.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Last year.

Speaker 8 (35:22):
I might have skipped over it a little bit, but
talk a lot of Arizona, loved the fan base, love Tucson,
and yeah Aaron Underscore tour and on Twitter, but then
also tours on Arizona for all of your Arizona.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Cot With that one last quick question, because your guy,
the guy that you believed in a lot as a coach,
he's now at Texas.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
What are your thoughts on Sean.

Speaker 8 (35:48):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say Stark. I was like,
did I say something about Stark on your show?

Speaker 15 (35:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
No, I'm serious.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
I didn't know what I forgot. Yeah, I just show
us great there. You know, listen, I mean I think
people forget uh you know, he got there in year
one and admittedly they had a very talented roster. He
made sweet nifteen year one and you know, I think, listen,
nobody feels bad for these guys, but the sport, the
sport has changed incrementally, you know, exponentially for the right word,

(36:19):
in the last two years, three years, where you know,
I feel pretty confident saying that when he took that
Dager job, I think he thought he was going to
retire there and then all of a sudden, guys, you know,
you can do the mac. I mean, small captain school,
not a Ding alumni base, no football, And I know
what's the big DHTV contract is, and I promise you
the big, the big, the big ten, big twelve, whatever.

(36:41):
And so I think he felt like he had to
make a move. So I think he's going to be
on even fights. You know. Now, I will say a
lot of good coaches in that league, but I think
you've give him the resources that Texas obviously had. I
think he's going to be very successful. But again, there's
so many good coaches and programs in that league that
it's you know, I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Think it gonn me.

Speaker 8 (37:00):
I'll come battle, but you know it's gonna be a
challenge because again there's so many good ghosts in programs.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
In that man.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Yeah, him in Texas, it's I mean, it's talk about
recovering your your career. Yeah, you know, congrats to him,
good luck to him. And I think he's in a
good spot.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Right, Well, go back to your party. Erin sounds like
you're having a good time.

Speaker 8 (37:20):
My dog she's playing with a ball in the background,
and the second that I get off the pall with you,
she's gonna put the ball down and leave me along.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Shit.

Speaker 8 (37:27):
She doesn't like when somebody else gets my attention, so
you know how that goes.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yes, Aaron, you're the best. Thank you man, no problem.

Speaker 8 (37:34):
So take care of guys, go talk to it.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yes, take care. Let's take a break, come back on
the other side.

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Breaking down all the xys A ohs. This is I
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen
fifty eight.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Dave Silver with me today. You got d is a
special guest. Oh, you're here too.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I shouldn't say that because the stalkers might be chasing you,
and we know we have you have stalkers from this show.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
I mean they're not annoying.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I don't want to mention any names.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
No, I mean.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
Nothing that I have worried for my safety. Will put
it that way, for my physical safety.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
I am in town for a little while longer.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
We'll put it that way.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
So there's more opportunities if you want to talk.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
To me, is okay? Go, I'm not sure. Maybe Friday
we'll see Dave.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I'm not sure because we're supposed to do the do
the if L Championship on Friday from the media day
down there at TCC. We're not going to do that
now given some circumstances. But it should be a pretty
good show or media day for them, with both teams
from Green Bay, one from Game Bay, one from Vegas,
a lot of opportunities to talk to DeLaura has I

(42:41):
heard him on briefly on Justin Spears and all these
show this morning sounded good.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
He was kind of away from football for a while
and then they found him and they said, come on play,
he's done really well.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Does he want to play beyond this? I'm I'm sure does.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I didn't get I didn't think they asked him that question,
but just he had he's had a great year. It's
a fantastic you're playing for them.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
But has he just found his niche? Well that's sorry.
I don't mean to be the past miss, but.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
You're being realistic because this might be it is it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
And this no no harm, no foul.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Yeah, and this is what his niches and this is
where his level of play is at the highest and
can compete at the highest level.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
No one, then do it, no.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Harm, no foul.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
If you're good at this, that's fine. I mean, you
get paid to do what you want to do. You know,
look at me, do this and we get the game
here in Tucson for three years. So yeah, well that's
the whole thing, Dave. They have to really do well
because you don't want them to poo poo and say, yeah,
we don't want to go back.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You know what I'm saying. Even though there's a contract, people.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I'm surprised that it's a three year deal.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Well, visit Tucson and and the downtown group. O Real
Real came through and got these guys to come in
and believe. And but to to Fader's point is that
they were I think they were hoping or whoever was
hoping that Kevin guy would bring his battlers into town

(44:08):
and for a championship. Yeah, they're consistently in the game.
They just got kind of got like as he used
the word screwed on that one play that they said,
oh yeah, we messed up, but sorry, can't go back.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Well, that's sports.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Sometimes you can't predict necessarily. So they're gonna have a
pregame party. Like if it starts at four o'clock, it says, yeah,
four to six fifteen, game starts it's at seven seven thirty.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, yeah, and they go very quick to about two
and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Uh, you know, have you been to one?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I haven't, Dave, I've only been to one.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Me too, I've been to two here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, it was the first one, and I didn't get
it until you got closer to the field and you
feel you could feel.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
The excitement there. But I was up in the media box.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
I mean, I feel like that can be said for
a lot of sports that maybe don't have a large attendance,
or you're just not super familiar to it. Until you
get closer to play, you're not going to understand the hype.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Right, And it was it was It was cool. People
are running up against the rails and getting smashed and
flying over them.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Yeah, it's just kind of an interesting wild or yeah,
having the boards there or whatever. It's like a hockey match,
you know. Having that type of field too is kind
of different.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I don't know. The way.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Just to show your support here in Tucson.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
So we'll see the Green Bay Blizzard and the Vegas Nighthawks.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, there we go. Let me ask you something, Dave. Well,
not including the NCAA title game that Arizona one in
eighty seven, because I know you were there. Give me
two or three other big events that are memorable to you.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I don't think i've asked you this for me.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
You were that was okay when Arizona one old the
College World Series in eighty six.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Well that thought, Oh yeah, because you're here, hold on,
we got to call Oh here it comes. Hello, you're
on the air nine the ball?

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Who's this?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Who's this?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Steve?

Speaker 3 (45:54):
This is done? How you doing done?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Dave Hey, we used to.

Speaker 15 (46:01):
Get into conversations about these favorite point.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Guard how I don't know, but he still is.

Speaker 15 (46:12):
All I know is I'm a Raiders fan, and I
have to believe that all the decisions that Al Davis
had made up until his death were what he thought
was best for the team. Of course we all know
it wasn't. And that's the way I always felt about
Kirk Cries when he was here. He was all for

(46:33):
Arizona and he did what he could do, and that's
all he could do.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, well, he reached the level of his what do
you call it, the Peter principle of his He got to.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
His ceiling, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (46:48):
But the reason for my call today is to congratulate
d on her successes. I think I saw her a
few months ago on the TV.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
It was a jockey flirting with her, because it happens
all the time.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
No, no, she was.

Speaker 15 (47:06):
She was giving analysis like she just did a little
bit of go about the horse you were talking about son?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
The speedboat beach. I dropped a lot of.

Speaker 15 (47:14):
Names, speedboat, speedboat, but I was like, mant, you went
right to her. She probably doesn't even have any notes
and she's just rattling stuff off and I'm going, well,
Heaven help her. I hope she never ends up with
ESPN because ESPN is just playing gossip Sports TV. That's

(47:37):
just horrible that stuff there. But I mean, I just
I just want to reach out say hi to d
And and congratulate her on her successes so far and
continued success.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Thank you, don I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
We'll get right there.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
It's nice to be back.

Speaker 15 (47:57):
Write that down.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
We're recording this.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yes, this will be on the podcast, on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I want.

Speaker 15 (48:04):
I wanted to reach out when you were talking to
Fader and you're trying to discuss baseball in Tucson and heat,
and you know what, if the team is doing well,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (48:19):
A few years ago when when Mississippi State came here
for the super Regional, I remember, I remember, and it
was it was it was hot, it was during the
day and yeah, and we were sitting there was there
was a girl, a miss an Ole, miss Salam and
she came and she's telling us all about that GIMPI
first basement that they had that you couldn't pitch to him.

(48:41):
The guy could hit everything. He was the only one
that hit, but she was going, man, is it hot,
you know? And he's like, yeah, but there's no humidity.
You should be fine, and she's like, no, this is hot.
And I'll tell you in the playoffs at High Corbett
at when Arizona's playing, everybody that goals are going back.

(49:02):
I wish it was a little bit warmer because it
just it just gives Arizona that much of an advantage.
And I think that I think the people here understand
the heat, and I think that if you have a
winning product on the field, I don't think that at
matters that much. Even but even still, you're going to
be starting games at seven thirty, so it's not going

(49:22):
to be as right as hot, and as.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
The night goes on, it gets cooler, more comfortable. Right,
Well done, Thanks for the call.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Thanks and give Mike, Mike Vader a lot of credit for,
you know, the way he handled the franchises that he
was running. He was a master at getting them, you know,
different different crazy events around the stadium, around the different
games and all the promotions. And we grew up kind
of in the watching Bill Veck in Chicago, who was
really the master of that, and Mike kind of brought

(49:49):
that with him when he came to Tucson in the eighties,
and you know, he tried really hard. And High Corvet
especially it's a great place. I mean every weekend if
there was a home game, there was something going on
beside just the game, and something giveaway and this and that.
So you know, we tried. He tried. For sure.

Speaker 15 (50:05):
If Tucson wants to do anything with sports, they just
got to give Mike the keys. Sure, just given the kids, Mike,
what do you need? And and and don't sweat him,
don't get well no, you know we got the city ordinances, nothing, no,
forget about that. You know, if he wanted to be successful,
you know, I mean, yeah, well, desiree ought to reach

(50:29):
out to him to run, to run the UH, to
run the ni L program.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
After U of a, he's he's already a sense, he's
in the sense live already.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
So they already have him. So we gotta go. We
gotta go. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Man. Got about a minute, guys about I was asking you,
Dave about you give me give me a couple of
forget about.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I think he's still there. I was going to mention
the eighty six championship was pretty big just just being
there standing there in the rain. They just I think
they knocked off Florida State in the championship game, and
you know, Jerry Kendall was there with his wife who
was not in good health. Then it was very emotional
for them. Chip Hale was, you know, one of the
stars of that team. That was a real big one

(51:10):
for me.

Speaker 9 (51:10):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Nine years ago.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
You know, we were there. Well, I was there when
the Diamondbacks won the championship. That was a big Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I didn't two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
I didn't do that. That was fun. Super Bowls. Yeah,
it's lucky to be around a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, yeah, cool. You did.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
To get to Kentucky Derby though, you.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
And me both, man, we're working our way there.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
No're working on it buckets too.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
She goes that it's hopefully in the next couple of
years getting to Kentucky period would be good. Breeders Cup
twenty twenty six at Keenlin so Ill, maybe that's stop
number one, and then Breeders Cup twenty twenty seven at
the New Belmont Stadium in New York.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Yeah, how's that going to be? You think?

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Because I think it's going to be massive and very
modern and it's going to look nothing like the old
yeah grandstands.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah yeah, Well we go to Breeders this year San
Diego again.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
So yeah, I see you at del mar Steve, Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Thank you for coming in. Of course, we'll see if
you see you a couple more days. All you're around,
so you're on speed. Thanks. Dave is always sure. Talk
to get everybody tomorrow
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