Hour 2- August 28, Ricky Hunley

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen. Middy,
I want to take part in the show. Call up
stem now went five to two oh four one six
seventy four.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty saying goodbye to Kevin Leeman.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Talk to you later, coach. We'll see you down the road.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Thank you, Thank you Jay for coming on in bag
team here, all the philosophy today. Holy moly, maybe a
smarter man after this. Welcome back. I haven't seen you forever.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, thanks for having me back. You haven't been on
in a while too. I missed.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I miss your boys, man, I missed that philosophy. That
stern you make me run through a wall. I'm not
strong enough anymore.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
When I was at tanger Verdie, our joke was we're
built like we're trying to build that personal connection with
the players. Yeah, And got to the point where I
truly felt like if I told those kids we're gonna
get up on the roof today, we're all going to
jump off the roof headfirst into the parking lot. That
they were literally saying, like, where's the ladder at let's go,
Let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
But you know what, they played like it. I mean,
come on, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Don't think they want until you got there. No, we
hadn't won a game in two or three years when
we showed up.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
But you know what, Like we talked about last segment,
success is best one that shared. And I had an amazing,
amazing coaching staff at Tanga Verdi, all NFL college football
players and guys from the U of A, my friends
from the U of A, and like, I could just
turn things over to those coaches and they built those

(01:39):
same connections and they were getting those kids were getting
top shelf coaching.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, it's I think that's a testament to how people
believe in you. With the quality of coaches you had,
they trust you in guiding and helping because you know,
you can just say you want to help bah blah blah, No,
not really, but these guys and I know that roster
of people that you had, including your son right yourselping you, Uh,
that's a show of belief in you.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I was biased, obviously, but I had the best high
school coaching staff in the state that they were just
amazing and they.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Were all good men too.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
They love those kids and they invested their life. They
you know what, they didn't have kids on the team,
and they all had jobs. They'd work all day, drive
across town. David Adams was living on the on the
southwest side of town. He was driving an hour and
a half every day to come to practice to coach
these kids.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Back and forth.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
And let me ask you a dumb question, because I
probably know the answer, you bess it.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I missed the people. We made this comment last segment.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
People forget about catches and touchdowns and scores, and they
forget about the statistics of the game. They remember the
people and what is your legacy, like who did you touch?
And they had so many teammates that touched my life,
so many coaches that touched my life in a positive
way that we're inspiring and encouraging. Those are those are

(03:04):
the those are the relationships that you remember.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
So so I say this all the time. I used
to be a former athlete a long time ago. Those
people need to find an outlet to replace that outlet.
Do you compete somewhere how, somehow.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's it's internal, it's personal.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
It's it's competition to be to be better, to be
better at whatever it is you're doing. That day, just
to just to live a better life, be better today
than you were yesterday.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's like easy to say, hard to.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Do right, no question in any in anything. You know,
Oh yeah I'm gonna do That's it's not as easy
as you think. And I think that we need to
live our lives at full speed. Yeah you know, I
was thinking about you on the way over here. And
I learned a lesson very early on. I was at
Sawara High School.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Okay, ye ye, yes, in Tucson, but I know no
year I was there seventy six through Okay.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So this thise you're taking me back to that.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Okay, the fall of seventy seven, A very good friend
of mine was our quarterback who we had played a
game against Pelaverti that night. He was in a car
accident and lost his life. Our quarterback, and Rick Botkin
was our starting quarterback. He was an All American Savile player.

(04:18):
He was an amazing, amazing.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Athlete, football player, track athlete.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
And that as at a very young age, taught me
a lesson that that there is no guarantee for tomorrow.
That is why as athletes were encouraging the kids we
coach and as athletes Yeah, to play as hard as
you can and as fast as you can for as
long as you can, because there's no guarantee of another day,
another game, another.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Play like goa is just be as reckless as you
can be.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's funny because just in seeing tapes, because I was
not here when you played, you were. You were like
the Beatle Bailey of you of a wide receiver, went
across the middle, got your ass kicked, but you got up.
You don't beat the billy when the sergeant beat the crap.
I mean you looked twenty different pieces. And what did
you at any time? Because I'm sure that was at

(05:08):
one time or two times. It happened a lot, right,
did you say?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
God, I don't know anymore. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Another great thing that happened to me in the development
of of my athletic career is I started at the
University of Arkansas, and I played for Lou Holtz at Arkansas,
and you if you wanted to get on the field,
you had the block. He didn't care if you caught passes.
You better block the perimeter. And so I brought that
mentality and those skills and that technique to Arizona and

(05:39):
and that's initially what got me on the field is
that I was never the biggest, the strongest, the fastest.
But willingness, yeah, is a great equalizer. I was willing
to block.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And you notice that stuff, you know what I'm saying.
You could see maybe a fourth two star. You have
all the fourth five starslah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
But you see some dude that's working his ass off,
and who's this dude?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And then because they see that determination or whatever, the
willingness that you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I played on teams with Vance Johnson in the backfield,
with David Adams in the backfield, legendary Arizona running backs,
like it was important to me to be able to
block for them. I knew that they were counting on me,
and I didn't have to be a great blocker. I
just had to get in somebody's way for those guys
to show their skills.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Off the top of your head, how many catches total?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I had one hundred career catches, which is a heck
of a lot of catches, right, TDS.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I didn't score a lot of touchdowns. You were the
possession guy. A little bit frustrating, but possession guy, you know, what.
But I knew my role and I embraced my role,
and that's just ass important as the chemistry on third down.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I knew that they were going to look for me
and trying to keep drives alive and the importance of
like making this catch from a team concept, I wasn't
the guy who was going to run down the sidelines
and catch the ball over his shoulder and run into
the end zone and hug the cheerleaders. Were going to
go to the middle, catch a slant and try to
get a first down and get knocked down and get

(07:12):
back up and do it again, and and but but
I love that.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I love that that was my role.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
So at no point, like I go back to the
question that I asked, getting beat up in the middle
because they're coming at you in the middle, you're catching
those tough asses. Was there a point where you said,
I don't know if my body can take this anymore?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
You know what, I never got to that point.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I got where I loved taking the best shot of
the defense and getting back up. That is when when
a guy hits you as hard as he can hit you,
and he knows he put a good lick on you,
and you pop back up.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's de moralize, right, this SB is getting up. What
the hell did I do? What didn't I do?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Uh? Let me ask you.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I had Reggie, Geary, Ricky and Lamont here and I
asked ask them the question, how how was life being
a ua UA student athlete?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Must have been fantastic? It was wonderful. And I heard
you guys yesterday.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I was listening to you talking about NIL and the
transfer portal and how the world is different today for
college athletes.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh, thanks for listening. Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Whether whether anybody out there likes it or not, you
might as well embrace it because it's the way of
the world.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It is the way it is.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
But we would line up once a month at the
Admin building when they handed out scholarship checks. We get
a check like once a month for like seventy two dollars.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And it was the pot of gold at the end.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Of the rainbow, Like we actually had some money in
our pocket that would last for a couple of weeks
where you could go buy a pizza.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
And we were so happy to get that seventy two dollars.
It was.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
And we had guys that weren't on scholarship. I had
roommates that weren't getting their school before. I would take
some of that money and and treat them and do
things for that that they were out there every day
making the same commitment, the same sacrifice I was without
any help.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're forty years too late or too early, however you
want to look at it.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
What do you think about today's world?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know what I love seeing the kids be rewarded
and compensated for what they do and what they bring.
So here's the challenge. And I've had this conversation. I've
had it with Ricky, I've had it with coach Brennan.
As a coach, how do you build team unity when
you got a kid sitting in a locker who's a
millionaire I love you, and the kid next to him

(09:34):
can't afford a McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I've talked about this with jan and you probably listen.
How are you going to pay the offensive lineman? Seventy
and in the quarterback of this? Maybe just me be
a bad thinking quarterback one point two or whatever, And hey,
this guy doesn't succeed if I don't block. It's all
I thought it'd be all equal, But obviously I'm totally
wrong to your point.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think that's a great challenge for today's college coaches. Yeah,
you get to the pros and everybody's got different salaries
and it's it's a different world. But but you're in
a college locker room and you have kids that that
can't afford a happy meal sitting next to a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
To build unity and teamwork and and love for each
other with such disparity and discrepancy. I think it's it goes, Uh,
my admiration goes to the kid who's not making a
lot of money, who still shows up every day with
their willingness to try to improve and be part of it.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah. Yeah, crazy times, crazy times, And.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think too much money like can take that away
from you, can take.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
That away from you.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
You know, you're you're taken care of your set up.
You've those kids have to find that drive that goes
beyond the dollar sign.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's got to be personal.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Right, Well, you, if you have that drive, I don't
think you'd lose it because you become that person you
know by with that drive. But totally get you because
there's that there's that chance that I'm getting paid and
I felt that a lot with a lot of the
sports athletes. I'm getting paid. Why do I have to perform?
And then you see the guys that you said, like
you said earlier when you got here, say is when

(11:16):
you see talent and great talent, but it's not being
used when you guys like according to you, like your
talent is here and you wish you have their talent
and you're busting your butt and doing what you do
and if you just had a little bit more, you'd
be this guy.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, if we moved back forty years plus forty plus, yeares, yeah,
but put today's rules in place, can you imagine how
much money the Rick Huntley's, the Tom Tonacliffs, the Vance Johnson's,
the David Adams of the world, right, I mean those
guys would be those big bank college football players in

(11:53):
today's world.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
No question. In fact, you know that we're having a
pregame show with the Huntleys. I asked about all times.
Just five million. I'm a five million dollar guy, Ricky when.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
We were in school, and Rick maybe listening, I know
he's going to call in. H Rick definitely could have
been the mayor of Tucson. He could have been the
governor of Arizona, like he ran this town and he's
still dust. Well, not only by his play. I mean
his play is where he made his name. But Ricky's

(12:25):
physically when you see him, he's instantly recognizable. Yeah, and
he's got that big smile for everybody. It doesn't matter
who you are. He's always got a hug and a
great handshake. And it's beyond what he did as a player,
it's who he is as a person.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like everybody loves Ricky. You've heard me say that.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
You had to have heard me say this because I
say this all the time.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Everybody loves Ricky.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
You know, because he I'm knowing that now being the
partner with him. It's the radio show where he's done
some unbelievable things, and I'm thinking, they really do love
this guy.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I'll tell you as his teammate, what was fabulous about
playing with Ricky is that he was this superstar on
a national stage. You wouldn't know it in the locker room,
and the way like he treated players like me.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
He treated me like I was an equal.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I wasn't Ricky Huntley's equal, but he but he made.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You feel that way right right. No, he's a good dude.
He's a good dude. And it's funny because I asked
him two three weeks ago and then his brother went
and here, I said, you're not as I mean by
looking at you and seeing you on campus, I say, mister, honey,
could you sign this? You know, almost being timid to
go up against him. No, dude, he's a he's a bear.
He's a lovable bear.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
He's Ricky's got open arms for everybody. Yeah, I'll tell
you a funny.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Story, like you're kind of that dude too, Just not
to interrupt you because oh, I don't know, he looks
a little rough.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
No, he did.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
You're a good dude as a kid growing up. I'm
at the u of A. At my grandmother's house. She
has a gigantic poster of Ricky Hunley at our house.
There's no picture of me, there's no picture of her grandson.
There's a picture of Ricky Hunley, and and and Ricky
signed an autograph for which was like one of her

(14:11):
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Ricky Hunley was her grandson's.

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Breaking down all the epsys at OHS. This is I
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Hey, welcome back to WY on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today in
studio is mister Dobbins, Jay Dobbins, class of eighty five.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Ish, I grat My last football season at Arizona was
nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Eighty four, Okay. And then we now we have Ricky
back on the phone. Ricky, who are you talking to?

Speaker 11 (19:14):
Ricky?

Speaker 12 (19:15):
I'm here, brother, I'm here at barb Shot.

Speaker 13 (19:17):
Okay, hit a fair down Barber Shot with Barbara Ronnie
you neither.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
What do you you have, hair? I didn't even know
that you had here. What are they doing?

Speaker 14 (19:26):
I'm gonna get you down here.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Down down.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
So we're just talking to Jay. Uh say hello to
Jay real quick.

Speaker 14 (19:35):
Man, J Bird.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Much love, rick So he was telling me this, He
was telling me the story.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Does he know this story? I don't think so tell
me tell me again. So we were at the U of.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
A and and and Ricky Hunley's Ricky Hunley. Ricky Henley,
like we said earlier, could definitely have been the mayor
of Tucson, probably the governor of Arizona. Like you ran
this town, absolutely ran. And everybody knew who Ricky Hunley was.
Everybody wanted touch him and be next to him and
be Ricky's friend. My grandmother, who was like well into
her eighties at that point, Go to her house. She's

(20:07):
got a giant Ricky Hunley poster. Like, there's no picture
of me anywhere in her house. Ricky Hunley's in her house.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Everybody loves Ricky.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Who are you listening to you? Can you hear the
clipper running?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Are you there?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
How to Ronnie?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
This is Stephen J.

Speaker 13 (20:29):
Dobbins.

Speaker 12 (20:31):
All what's up?

Speaker 15 (20:32):
Man?

Speaker 12 (20:32):
How you doing?

Speaker 13 (20:33):
Good?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Good? Good?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Is he getting his haircut right now?

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh? Yeah, man, look good, well, good luck.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You're the miracle worker, have hair, the miracle worker? So
did you hear that story? Ricky?

Speaker 13 (20:49):
You heard it?

Speaker 12 (20:50):
Grandma loves me.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Everybody loves so let me get give me a give
me a comp basketball wise, was it Sean or was
it Steve?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Or like? Who could who was that guy on the
football team?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know it must have been Ricky? But was it
Steve or Sean? Could have been the mayor could have been.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
The Yeah, those those guys who like were amazing performers.
But the community, the people that paid their hard earned
dollars to come and watch us play, that there's certain
people that the community embraces and falls in love with.
And and Tucson absolutely adored Ricky.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Only did you you're this way all the time?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Ricky?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Did you know at the time that you were kind
of just just kind of living your life for How
was it, Steve?

Speaker 14 (21:38):
You're getting it for free?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Thank you very much. I can't afford you.

Speaker 13 (21:44):
Then, Hey, Jay, Steve. Steve does cry a lot. Though
yesterday I was in the studio he had tears rolling down.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
And I still do. I still do.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
It's my right eyed tears. Don't go crazy with it.
Don't go crazy with it.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Well, we're ready for your podcast to get rolling.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Up.

Speaker 13 (22:00):
We're excited about it. We're gonna kick this thing off
on Saturday. With Steven Lamont and uh, we got a
lot of people interested in listening in.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, we also have an interview with coach Brennan by
yours truly, uh, mister rick So we'll have that tomorrow Saturday,
and Checil Chuck Cecil's coming on. God, look at all
the names you Jay Dobbin, Chuck Cecil, the Huntley Brothers.
I mean, you had a lot of star power back then.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Randy Robbins is going into the Ring of Honor on Saturday.
Another player that that was on on that team.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
How how was life, Ricky? Back then?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
You had uh, your guy Vance Johnson, you had Jean's
uh mister Robbins, however.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
You guys call him.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
We had him on the show two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It was just crazy, all these personalities Byron Evans that.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, I'll tell you. Our defense was stacked.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Arizona was known for defense and like every position, we
had amazing, amazing players that they were. They were Desert
Swarm before there was a dozen.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I was going to ask you, guys that do you
when you it was ten years later.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Right, the Desert Swarm? How did you? How did you, Ricky?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
How did you feel about the defense ten years later
when you guys kind of had similar defense.

Speaker 13 (23:18):
I was visy an NFL plan.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
So you didn't care. Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 13 (23:24):
I didn't have time to worry about it?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Okay, Well I did.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
I did, and and and like I'm loyal, uh to
my era, to my guys.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Desert Swarm was was amazing.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
They were fun to watch. But I had the best
seat in the house. I was standing on the sidelines
watching our defense play.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, and you know, like with Rick on the line, we.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Hadn't quite seen that kind of player yet, that guy
that was six y three and two hundred and fifty
pounds and could sack the quarterback, could make tackle sideline
the sideline, could drop into that Tampa coverage and and
make interceptions field. Like, we hadn't quite seen that guy yet,
but we were seeing him here live, real time in

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person in Tucson.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Was that the wall waldroups and the who was there
before that? Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Here for that? Yeah? Well, Ricky again, you were six'.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
One what were?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
You two? Fourteen recorded the?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Answer okay and two fourteen two fifteen, fifteen tell me
real quick while he's on the. Phone you can wax
poetic did he kind of say to, yourself how good
is this?

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Dude, well you know what all you had to do
was open your eyes Because ricky made plays sideline to
sideline in the, backfield in the defensive. Backfield he Was
everything that we did on defense was built Around.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Ricky. Yeah, Uh. Ricky we talked About.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Roganman tell me about your thoughts with him And.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Rogaman, well the relationship they had there was was clearly
beyond a player co.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Relationship there was love.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
There AND i Knew rogi Front LIKE i played With
rogi's son At Soaro High. School Rock, roganman who ended
up playing At Notre, dame was SO i knew Coach
rogi WHEN i was a sophomore in high, school and
he like he would come and give us pregame speeches
At soorrow and like like you would actually like almost

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that they were so good they would almost suck the
energy out of the end of the locker.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Room you were like.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Ready to smash something locker room and get out to the,
field and it was like that energy had been expended
because he was so intense and so motivating and so.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Inspirational.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Ricky you talked about rogan playing because he inspired you
or he made you play tough all the, time.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
All the time he. Was he was a special.

Speaker 13 (25:50):
MAN i mean he, could Like jay, say he could
get anybody fired up to.

Speaker 12 (25:54):
Play And i'll.

Speaker 13 (25:55):
Never get that speech he gave us At Notre dame
when halftime At Notre, dame and and he left everybody
standing there looking for blood because you.

Speaker 12 (26:04):
In the house And New rockney, building you can't give
a little. Blood it was.

Speaker 13 (26:08):
Magical but Uh rogie was a special guy. Man and
everybody who played for him loved, him loved him and hated.

Speaker 12 (26:15):
Him it was a love hate. Relationship you hate him early.

Speaker 13 (26:17):
On because you felt like you were being picked, on
but you loved him the deaf at the, end all
the way to the.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
End he. Was he was a special.

Speaker 14 (26:23):
MAN i mean he, could Like jay, said he.

Speaker 13 (26:25):
Could get anybody fired up to. Play and Uh i'll
never forget that speech he gave us That Notre dame
when halftime In Notre, dame and and he left everybody
standing there looking for blood because you in the house
AND Nuw Rockney, building you can't give a little. Blood
it was, magical but Uh rogie was a special guy,
man and everybody who played for, him loved, him.

Speaker 12 (26:47):
Loved, him and hated. Him it was a love hate.

Speaker 13 (26:49):
Relationship you hate him early on because you felt like
you were being picked, on but you loved him to
deaf at the, end all the way to the.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
End, yeah did you? Talk you talked about the. Relationship
how what was? That how would you describe the? RELATIONSHIP
i mean even.

Speaker 13 (27:01):
To the the last day that he passed. Away, man
he's a special.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
GUY i have to remind you you can't cuss on the.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
RADIO i.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Didn't, well you're bigger than, me So i'll just say that.
Me you might Have Uh, No, no it was that,
era LIKE i, said you, Had you had a lot
of personalities AND i CALL i use that personality or
era as the lunch pale. Dudes i'm probably missing dudes
on the roster that you guys can. Name who else
was included in that? Mess Joe, Drake.

Speaker 14 (27:33):
Mike, Robinson Bob, Cobb Erry.

Speaker 13 (27:37):
Gibson we had a ton of, People Tony, Neelyans bubba Growth,
man we had. Guys we had a lot of. Players
and we had also the players, TOO i mean impactful
players Like Brad, Anderson Vans, Johnson Mike, preman who made
The Denver.

Speaker 12 (27:56):
Broncos Marshaun graves who made The Denver. Broncos chris brew
who made The Denver broncos IN.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Nfl, Yeah Phil, Freeman philly wasn't AN.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Nfl who was the cowboy that went To?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
SEATTLE i talked to him all the, Time.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Chris, No, no he's the he's the rodeo guy now in,
town big dude. Cowboy oh, man he's the head of
the rodeo. Guy uh went To, seattle played with The.
SEAHAWKS i think it Was. Merriman, merriman did.

Speaker 14 (28:30):
You not play For he played For, Seattle so he
wasn't in our.

Speaker 12 (28:34):
Class we're talking About.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Gus, YEAH i KNOW i was. Mistaken he came. LATER
i think you, Know.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Steve i'll tell you that that defense WHEN i was in,
school straight. ASSASSINS i, mean those guys weren't looking to tackle.
You AND i know this firsthand from practicing against Them
monday Through, friday that they were looking to take you.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Out.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yea that they didn't want to just tackle you and
knock you to the. Ground they wanted to like literally
put you out of, practice put you out of. Game straight.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Assassins, Yeah ricky real, quick Because lamon was with you
for one?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Year right or? Two? Three? Three?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Okay so did you guys hang around on campus? TOGETHER
i covered WHEN i got. HERE i covered The singleton, twins,
right they were always together and you couldn't tell which
was which back in the late. Eighties did you guys
hang around together when you guys were on? Campus we
grew up sleeping in the same.

Speaker 12 (29:25):
Bed what do you think.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Is that? A?

Speaker 13 (29:29):
Yes, yes, absolutely we were in apartment.

Speaker 12 (29:33):
Together, Myself Randy Robbinson?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Lamont how was?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
That how was was an admirer from outside watching these guys?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Play?

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Well as much love AS i an admiration AS i
have For, RICKY i have the equal For. Lamont lamon
was the captain of the team my senior, year and
he had he inspired that same uh passion and willingness
that that That ricky.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Did and And lamont.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Was an, amazing amazing football player all on his, own
all on his, own was absolutely a wrecking ball on.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Defense.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
RICKY i know we joke about this when you were
in the show this week With. Lamont what do you
think he learned the most from? You it doesn't even
have to be.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Football how to be a good, brother.

Speaker 13 (30:27):
Which Means lamont's a very quiet and humble.

Speaker 14 (30:31):
Guy, yeah you, know he's a.

Speaker 13 (30:33):
Thinker you, know he didn't speak out of, turn but
when he, speaks you. Listen EVEN i still.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Listen, Yeah, no that's. Interesting that's. Interesting and you're two years,
older one year, old one.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
One, yeah and.

Speaker 14 (30:49):
So we played three years.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Together so it's One ricky's senior.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Year both The holly brothers were on the field at
the same. Time now that's a handful right.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
There how was? That how was?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
THAT i know what he's gonna, Say, ricky how was playing?

Speaker 12 (31:08):
Together we, Played we played together high school and. College
it was.

Speaker 13 (31:12):
Fantastic and uh My mont always accused me of still
in his.

Speaker 14 (31:17):
Tackle that's why he's the all time assist leader In
arizona football.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
History he was a king of Colom see IF i
got a question For ricky and and and these are
a couple of names that aren't as, prominent but, like
Like ricky will know these guys and these dudes, were
LIKE i, said. Assassins John Pace Glenn perkins were. Linebackers
and and those guys were. Headhunters they WERE i, mean

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they brought the.

Speaker 13 (31:46):
Lumber John, Face John face was a guy THAT i
was scared. Of he WAS i, mean he was just.

Speaker 14 (31:55):
Intimidating and, Uh Glenn, perkins, man it was.

Speaker 12 (32:00):
Like hitting getting hit by a wrecking.

Speaker 13 (32:01):
Ball and they were they were quiet. Guys but when
he when he got on the, field d Like jay,
said they just on one mission to tear your head
off Rush AND i WISH i could have played with
the one guy who kind of recruited me to come.
Here he was a, linebacker blew out his, Knee Gus
tucker because they say he was just a. Beast and
there's the guy who actually ran a four or five

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that was every bit of six two two forty.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
FIVE i know you played With chuck right for a
couple of, Years. Ricky did you play With chuck at
least one?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Year?

Speaker 14 (32:31):
No, Yeah chuck was a.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Press, Yes so tell, me here's.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
This what he weighed one fifty one sixty whatever it,
Was and what's your who's your impression first impression of?

Speaker 12 (32:42):
Him chuck was one hundred and forty eight.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Pounds who's your first?

Speaker 13 (32:45):
Impression he wasn't, Bigger he wasn't bigger than a.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Minute it.

Speaker 13 (32:50):
Was chuck was so, tiny he was so, small so,
light in the. Butt COACH rogi used to come to
him and, say what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Here why are you?

Speaker 13 (33:03):
Here And chuck would stay out there every day and
hit That roger slid trying to ring the, bell knocking
himself out and it all he became is the hardest
hitting player in the history of football in THE nfl and.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
College when did you see?

Speaker 13 (33:20):
That that's WHY i, say in my, OPINION i always
Think Chuck cecil is the greatest football player to ever
come Through arizona pound for pound because of what he
had to work with when he.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Started and that's the.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Goat he had nothing that the goat saying, that what
did you, Say, okay this, dude this dude's.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Tough at what? Point?

Speaker 13 (33:40):
What just watching him hit that lad every day he
was because he was. Relentless he wasn't gonna get him.
Up he wasn't gonna, quit you. Know and and we
had two guys like, that because he Had chuck and
we Had Gordon bunch and they were almost like.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Twins WHEN i would stay after practice and do extra,
work catch ball, drills And chuck would always be out,
there it would be me a quarterback And. Chuck and
so we had the seven man sled that had seven
pads on, it like for an entire offensive line to work.
Against chuck would back up twenty or thirty yards away

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from that seven man sled and sprint into. It he's
out there by himself, now sprint into it and throw
himself into that.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
SLED i was, like, man this is.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Nuts like his brain doesn't work the way other people's brains.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Work i'm, Like, chuck what are you? Doing And he's,
LIKE i have to keep my skills.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Sharp my turn is gonna, come my chance is gonna,
Come my opportunities, there AND i have to stay.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Ready that's. Funny that's.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Funny and you don't have to believe.

Speaker 13 (34:46):
Us you don't talk to him On.

Speaker 14 (34:48):
Saturday he is all of that in a bag of,
chips right telling you that's.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Funny give me one one story About jay, here that's.

Speaker 13 (34:56):
Clean, Jay, look J, bird what's the type of? Uh
you could count on him to catch a ball. Anywhere
he knew he was going to get, hit but he's
still he would go get. It and because we were
always trying to tear his head. Off this was a,
skinny little white. Boy he'd come across the middle. Wall
teary him, up and he would catch it and he
would get. Down one time.

Speaker 12 (35:19):
He caught, it he got, down AND i think me
and the other.

Speaker 13 (35:21):
Linebacker ran into each other trying to kill.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Him mission. Accomplished, yeah the bullet of.

Speaker 13 (35:27):
Orded he was elucido and he had he had sticky.
HANDS i always thought he was Like Fred. Plendicon he
wouldn't go miss the.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Ball, well and you know, what that goes back to
what we said, Earlier, steve, LIKE i KNEW i had
a role to. Play, yeah and my role wasn't a starring,
role BUT i WAS i embraced what the coaches asked
me to.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
DO i. WOULD i was beyond willing to do. IT i.
Was he was missed the.

Speaker 13 (35:51):
Clutch he was missed the.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Clutch, yeah, no he. Was who's the guy in The New?
England he always went to him for, possession the possession.

Speaker 13 (35:58):
Receiver they should have named that Got jaybird before they you,
know pull your. Head what's the other guy's name That
New england had os twol over?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Receivers yeah, right those. Guys, Hey, ricky thanks a. Bunch
i'll see You. Saturday i'll probably get a text from
you tomorrow or after tonight stay at The.

Speaker 14 (36:16):
FUNCKOCK i know you.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
WILL i already know. That thanks, Man i'll see You.
Saturday hey.

Speaker 12 (36:21):
Day good to hear your.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Voice, brother much love Rick, ALL i love, You, okay thank,
you thank.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
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Speaker 2 (40:40):
Hey welcome back To mine on The ball here On
Fox sports fourteen. Fifty I'm Steve rivera in with me
right now With Jay dobbins wide, receiver roup the middle
and crazy catcher and all that. Stuff AND i Think,
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(41:00):
take but one, hit price of, glory no, harm no.
Foul hell, yeah what's? It no, guts no. Glory let
me tell. You so you're this, Kid you're the skinny
kid growing up.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
On The East. Side, yeah went to our high. School
how did you get To? Arkansas? LIKE i had a
nice high school.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
CAREER i had a lot of offers WHEN i came out.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Of Hot tell me give me a. Three.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Uh Notre, Dame, Nebraska Arkansas Like Tom osborne sat in
my living, room Visited Notre Dame, Stanford. CAL i probably
had about twenty.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Offers, Wow i'm not a high School, Okay so then
how did you get To?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Arkansas interesting?

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Story the guy that recruited me For arkansas was a
guy Named John. Mitchell and if your audience out there
will Google John mitchell's, name he was the First African
american player At. Alabama an, amazing amazing. Character uh and
and he recruited. Me real Hard Coach. Holtz you, know

(41:59):
he's a, showman, sure but very much different, MAN a
different coach when he's recruiting you and sitting in your
living room and talking to your parents than when he.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Is out on the.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Field, sure he's a maniac on the, field but. Brilliant
the THING i admired and THAT i recall About Coach
holtz he knew every technique and ever for every position
on the, field for every. Play he could critique a
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as he could correct a quarterback or a receiver on
every single play in his.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Playbook the guy was absolutely.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Brilliant, yeah hold, on we got a. Call although you're
on the air nine on the.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Ball who's?

Speaker 15 (42:40):
This?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Jay hold? ON i Got Jay dobbins? Here tell me your.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Story, WELL i Hope jay remembers. This we were classmates
together At Sowaro High. School we had a biology class,
together AND i know PERSONALLY i didn't learn anything about
biology that school because me And jay laughed our way
through the entire school.

Speaker 11 (43:03):
YEAR i can't TELL i can't tell anybody that you're.

Speaker 13 (43:10):
Lying.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Jay we had a couple of.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Girls we had these like four seat big, desks and
it was me And, jay and we had a couple
of cute girls that were in our in our, group
in our biology. Group so me And jay were always
busting up and and goofing, off and if we weren't doing,
that we were flirting with the girls at our, class
but we weren't paying attention to whatever that day's lessons.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
WERE i promise YOU i know nothing about. Biology, JA i.

Speaker 13 (43:36):
CAN'T i can't believe you rolled that.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Out i'm exposing.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
You, Well, jake you Are this is what he told.
Me this is, no, no this is WHAT i. HEARD
i had two girls here at the. Table jay was
just kind of sitting.

Speaker 15 (43:50):
There well, see you, know here's here was the problem
with it is That jay was a. FRESHMAN i was a,
senior AND i needed another science class to take in
order to be able to. Graduate so ALL i wanted
to do.

Speaker 11 (44:06):
WAS pats and nothing.

Speaker 13 (44:07):
ELSE i was going to THE u OF.

Speaker 15 (44:09):
A i just needed.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
IT i just needed a.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Class and, so.

Speaker 11 (44:16):
And you, know just suffice to, SAY i didn't take
it very, seriously.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Right tell me real. Quick we just Had Ricky.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Leon you have A Jay dobbins story as a fan
AT u OF.

Speaker 13 (44:29):
A the one that.

Speaker 15 (44:32):
Sticks out to me And jay was the touchdown pass
you caught AGAINST ucla On NATIONAL tv.

Speaker 11 (44:40):
IN i think that eighty three, season eighty three eighty four.

Speaker 13 (44:47):
Season you've got a good.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Memory you're going way. Back that's a good.

Speaker 15 (44:50):
MEMORY ucla came, in they were going to win the,
league but they didn't have a great. Record Rick neuheisel
was the quarterback and you kind of touched up pass
to tie the game and then they're All american kick
or missed a chip shot extra point that would have won.

Speaker 11 (45:08):
It is HOW i remember that.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
You remember it exactly right and that that was a great.
Game and we kicked off super early because we were
On national to, rise like already kickoff so that we
could get That east coast time WINE la.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Watching we were In, Tucson, no Near, Tucson.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Okay THEY ucla had a, receiver had a defensive, back
a safety Named Don rogers who had come in After
Kenny easley And Don rodgers was that next era, apparent
that massive six,' four two hundred and thirty pounds safety
and and that dude was looking to, assassinate people and
so that that was a great challenge.

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For, us see this is my this is, My Partner.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Ran friday he Doesn't, remember tuesday but nineteen. Eighty, three yeah.

Speaker 15 (45:57):
The thing IS that ucla Team is hall went To
The rose bowl with like a seven and four records
something like that or some awful record.

Speaker 14 (46:06):
Because they won.

Speaker 11 (46:07):
The league they finished in the.

Speaker 15 (46:08):
Back of the league and they, won it.

Speaker 11 (46:09):
And they go and they go play In The rose bowl.

Speaker 13 (46:12):
With a crap record and and and yet, you know
and that was that was that eighty, Three.

Speaker 11 (46:17):
Team jay that was supposed to be that was going.

Speaker 12 (46:19):
To, be really really really good and then kind of.

Speaker 13 (46:22):
Fumbled it away a little bit.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
In the middle of.

Speaker 11 (46:24):
The season but it was going the team.

Speaker 13 (46:27):
Was going on probation and all. That crap BUT that.

Speaker 15 (46:29):
I gave i remember that game vividly because you said
it was a. Morning game it was like what the
First time arizona had been ON. National, tv uh, you
know like, YOU know i THINK.

Speaker 11 (46:41):
With abc the place.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Was packed it was a, great game.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Great Game tom tunnecliffe was our quarterback at.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
That point On the cliff was the quarterback and and
and he whenever we PLAYED the, la schools you could
always Count on tommy showing he was he Was a
burbank guy.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
And so he had a point.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
To, prove, yeah okay well. THANKS someone i was surprised
you even went, to class, you know given.

Speaker 14 (47:07):
THAT story i had to go to class to graduate from.
High school, YOU know i did what my. SON did
i Just said i'm Going to Arizona and i'll just
DO what i got to do to get.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
In there so you go back forty five years now
plus and you've got Me And jay gonzalez trying to dissect,
a frog and you can't imagine how unserious, that was?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Right, Right, yeah well, thank you My.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Thanks jael, see. Tomorrow, guys, okay, see okay. Take care
thanks for. The.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Call jay let's go Back.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
To okay so You're, at arkansas you stay there, a,
year right let me turning?

Speaker 3 (47:42):
This off stay there a year and then? What, Happened
yeah i'll.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Tell YOU when i was, Being Recruited So john mitchell's
recruiting Me, For Arkansas willie pete was recruiting Me. For
ARIZONA and i had a relationship With coach PETE because
i grew up with, his SONS and i grew Up
with Skip, and RODNEY so i knew him before the recruiting,
process STARTED and i wanted to Go, to arizona but

(48:06):
all the other recruiters, Were like arizona's going, On Probation
tony mason's got him.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
In trouble you really want to go to a school that's.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
On probation so like they got inside, my head this is,
nineteen eighty this, is yeah this is.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Nineteen EIGHTY.

Speaker 15 (48:21):
So i Go.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
To, arkansas arkansas's, you know at, that point was one
of the premiere programs in, the COUNTRY.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
And i, was, like man, you know all we do
is run, the ball like we don't throw.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
The ball so, You're there you're THERE to i realized that,
LIKE that i wasn't the Best fit. ARKANSAS was i
REALIZED firsthand i wasn't the best Fit. For ARKANSAS so
i Went to arkansas kind of to avoid. THIS probation
i wanted to Be. AT arizona i transferred Back to
Arizona Coach pete broker's my return and then we go.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
On probation SO like i ended up right in the
middle OF what i was trying.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
To, avoid, yeah yeah let me ask you because we
got about. Three minutes so you're kind of the perfect
example of why. Kids leave and there's, no harm no
foul in. This Observation, the Bijon's, the ransoms the guys
who CAN do, i mean you have to have an
amazing love if you're a local to, stay here if

(49:22):
you're getting recruited By The ohio states And the texas
is in all those, you.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Know, true yeah and you know the amount of love
and attention that gets put on a kid that's seventeen eighteen.
Years OLD like i was At cell Point when bijean was,
being Recruited when lathan was, being Recruited When bruno fina was,
being RECRUITED and I Think tom herman was the head

(49:46):
Coach at texas at. That point so here was, my
complaint my Complaint with arizona with with the way They,
Treated BIJON like i Didn't see arizona coaches, on CAMPUS
but I Saw tom, herman there the head Coach of
texas was was on campus Regularly, Courting Bijonah and, i'm
like where are my Guys from arizona that are ten

(50:09):
minutes away from The cell. Point campus why aren't they,
here right AND if i, Saw it bijon, saw it saw.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Everybody, Saw, it jay because that was the number. One
thing why aren't there we cruing these local kids even
just to, go by like, you said the show have.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
A presence I just i felt like we missed a
great opportunity to like to. Be competitive We as Arizona
suit arizona me and we As. In arizona and where my. Loyalty,
is yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
At, the time this was. Something, CORRECT yes I. BELIEVE
so I believe so and his son. Played there his
kids were on those.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Same, Teams yeah Jackson and joey were on those were
on those sell.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Point teams.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
LATHAN was lsu was on the Hunt, for LATHAN and
i obviously ended Up At ohio state and had a.
Fabulous career there was an l l u s you
coach with his boots on the ground on cell points
grass like almost every Day.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
CHASING lathan i don't blame the kids.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
FOR leaving, i mean how do you not say yes
to one of, those programs even though well even though
you have a Love, for arizona true love and their
family pies of Love, for arizona but you have the
organs of, the world the USC's.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
COMING in, i, SAY well i will, say this and from,
personal experience you can't replace being that local kid Playing.
At arizona LIKE when I watch, Arizona football I'm Watching.
CADEN luke i love that this Is a tucson kid
and the way he plays and and and the the
appreciation he has and the gratitude he has to be

(51:44):
playing in front of.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
His, hometown like how do you not cheer for? That kid?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Right right and it's a lot, of love a lot of. Love,
there okay thanks for.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Joining me they what a.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Fun time you got to. COME back i already kind
of bribing you to. Come back i'll be. Your third
you got people cancel, on you.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
You know put me.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
In coaching you're not too far, from Here so i'm, gonna,
Say hey jake got to. Come down thanks for. Being
here it was fun Because of ricky and because Of The.
Doc layman you guys have a, Connection now so what a.
Fantastic day thanks for, Having me thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
For coming it. Is great.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Thanks everybody we'll talk to You tomorrow friday show And then.
Saturday show thanks a bunch