Hour 2- August 6, Tim Kish

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, welcome back to my on the ball here on
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
All right?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Freshman Colin great questions for color So Plug getting to
play overseas in the U nineteen Games, What was that
experience like being able to bring home the ballda and.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
Play with coach for it.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
Yeah, I mean it's it was a great experience playing
with the best players in the country, best coaches in
the country. I mean it was great for me and
just going against those guys every day got me better.
And being coached by coach Lloyd and the other coaches
got me better and just trying to tried to take
in everything that the sponge of listened to them. But
I had a great experience, and all my experiences with
USA it was great.

Speaker 8 (01:15):
What kind of an.

Speaker 9 (01:15):
Advantage do you think it gives you that you had
that time word thing with coach Lloyd so that you have.

Speaker 10 (01:20):
A better understanding.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:23):
Yeah, we had like two weeks before we went up
to USA, so just like learning like the ins and
outs of his offense. He kind of ran a little
bit of the same type of concepts, but not as much.
But I mean just learning him as a coach and
stuff like that helped me a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:36):
What did you learn about him?

Speaker 7 (01:39):
Uh, just honestly, just how he coaches on the floor,
how like asserted he was. It was it was cool
to see like how locked in he was on everybody
and just how just how good of.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
A coach he was.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
And just learning from him throughout that experience helped me
when I got back to here as well. So it
kind of I kind of got a little bit more
comfortable with like just like kind of like the stuff
he was, like, the concepts he was running and stuff
like that. So I think that's helped me a lot
this summer, and just having that experience playing with him
so early you go.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Go one in the back again. Bo's play two K
player and you like to play.

Speaker 7 (02:11):
With any park I had to go to Jaden Bradley,
you know, just a great guard to have, great, big,
great player.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
I get through a top zero, top three cereals. I
don't eat cereal.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
N Uh.

Speaker 9 (02:30):
You come in here with a lot of hype, five
star ranking, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
But how do you put that aside.

Speaker 9 (02:35):
And now just be a freshman like the other guys
on the team and find your spot?

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Earn Yeah, can you repeat that one more time?

Speaker 9 (02:43):
Well, just you came in with all this hype, five
star and all that. Now you're just one of a
group of freshmen on the team that's got some evidence.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
How do you put aside.

Speaker 9 (02:50):
Like all that hype and just play for your spot.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
I think I've always did a good job like just
playing with other good players, because I've had experiences like
with me being at Perry, I was the best player
on the team, and then playing with USA, I was
playing with other really good players. So coming in here
at Arizona, I'm playing with a lot of good players.
Everybody on the team's a good player, So just like
trying to find my niche, but also just like kind
of having like a like a balance of like knowing
that I'm a good player, but also like I got

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to fit the team concept and try to learn like
how to play in and out like and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (03:18):
Yeah, and like last year there was so much talked
about how much harder playing as a freshman, whether it
was enough if he wasn't get used.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Who still goes.

Speaker 10 (03:25):
As a lottery pick? Do you not concern yourself at
the amount of minutes?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
No, not really.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
I mean I'm just trying to I'm just going into
practice every day with the mindset to just get better
and just whatever the team needs me to do, I'm
gonna do.

Speaker 9 (03:40):
We in the media like to put labels on things
like stilling so powerfulward small forward, shooting guard, and guard.

Speaker 8 (03:47):
You seem like maybe you could play multiple spots out there.
How would you describe like your role is out on
the floor.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
I would just say I'm just a basketball player, to
be honest, just a versatile player. I could do a
little bit of everything, and just doing whatever the coaches
tell me to do whatever position the coaches want me
to play.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
The other day, Dwayne said, you're probably another shooter than
than people said special meter range.

Speaker 10 (04:08):
It's not something that you feel this offense.

Speaker 8 (04:09):
WI kind of like you to show a little.

Speaker 7 (04:11):
Bit more of Yeah, for sure, just learning from like
learning my spots and stuff like that. Get into my spots,
get into my full us catch and shoot threes. Just
trying to learn like where I could get those shots,
but also not taking away that I'm a good driver
as well.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Just trying to show my all around game.

Speaker 9 (04:30):
The pet family big time or of the first family
of sports here in the state of Arizona.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
What was it like to just to be a part
of that, having.

Speaker 9 (04:39):
Siblings play professional sports, other siblings playing.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
Sports as well.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
Yeah, it was great, you know, growing up in that
family with a lot of a lot of knowledge. You know,
my older brothers and sisters helped me with that kind
of just helped me stay grounded and stay humble and
just kind of told me to always just stay in
the gym and just be as hard working as I can.
And I think I think they're probably in me for sure,
and just I'm gonna keep doing with they have instilled
in me.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
Did you feel pressure to live up to that?

Speaker 11 (05:07):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Maybe maybe a little bit when I was younger, But honestly,
when I started getting the gym a lot and just
put the work in, like all that kind of went
away and it just made me have confidence and belief
in myself.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Have you had a.

Speaker 9 (05:18):
Moment in practice where you're like, Wow, this is different
than what I had to put up or deal with
it at the.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
High school level.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, for sure. Like my first week here, Like the
physicality was definitely different.

Speaker 8 (05:28):
What's it like heaving your brother here on campus?

Speaker 6 (05:31):
It's great, you know, just having a brother here with me.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
I see him at bear Down Kitchen every day usually,
and then I'll come back home at night and he'll
be done with camp and which just like maybe watch
a movie, play video games or something like that, and
you guys rooming No, we're not rooming together, but he
lives right next to me.

Speaker 8 (05:47):
Okay, why was there some of the perfect trip for you?

Speaker 7 (05:50):
Why did' do you choose to come back? I think
the development piece was big for me and just their relationships.
Me and coach Lloyd built to a great relationship throughout
my process and coach tj As well and all the
assistant coaches.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
So that's.

Speaker 8 (06:03):
Are you alluded to kind of elements of Tommy's system
that being part of your team will say experience, How
do you think you fit into the style you wist?

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Yeah, I think I fit perfect.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Coach Lloyd told me I'm perfect, so coming here and
kind of now learning the stuff that he runs and
sets like that, but also like he gives me the
freedom to just be a basketball player and transition and
then the half court. So just trying to learn each
and every day and get better each and every day.

Speaker 12 (06:31):
Bread and talk about the weight room being one of
the major adjustments from high school college. What has that
experience been like working on RISCAT.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
It's been great.

Speaker 7 (06:39):
He always tells us to attack the weights and just
go as hard as we can. Like for my first week,
it was tough obviously because I don't used to lifting
how college lifts like and stuff like that. But I mean,
i think I'm getting accumulated to it and I think
it's going to be good for me and my body.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
So I'm excited to see my podcasts.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So what is sell you the most about?

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Play for doing that this season? Like the multiple games.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
I think just the fans in the stage, honestly, and
being from Arizona, I'm a hometown kid, so come in here,
people know me. Uh, there's gonna be fans. All the
fans are probably gonna know me. So just play in
front of a great environment, and just playing with that
with the Arizona uh on my chest is gonna make
me probably play even harder.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
So yeah, from the.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
Pheenixeria, did you get any grief from friends or a
classmates or anything about.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
How going to as wee?

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Uh No, not really, because I think they just were
happy with my decision and kind of just let me
go with that.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
He asked Braiden to kind of break down all of
his fellow freshmen, describe their games, and you kind of
go through each guy and tell us figger impressions are so.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Far, I would say Braiden's kind of just an all,
do it all type of guard. Gets downhill at a
high cliff and he can shoot the ball at high
cliff and plays defense too.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
He plays both sides of the ball.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Dwayne Sam kind of just three and d guy plays
both sides of the ball. He's a great basketball player,
but I think he's even better person. He's my roommate,
so we've been connecting a lot. And then Bryce is
a knockdown shooter. He's really good and he talks and
gets guys involved and Yvonne coming over from overseas. He's
really physical, has a really nice three point shot, so

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kind of a three and d as well, and he
plays good defense. And then my Bill's, uh, he's he's
doing really good. He guards me every day in practice.
I guard him every day in practice, so we've been
battling with each each other. So he's he's a good
for man to make shots. He'll go in the paint,
get dirty in there, and he'll make make layups.

Speaker 12 (08:37):
Obviously, this program a lot of alumni care about it,
talk about Arizona all the time, like Richard Jefferson, Channing Fry.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
Those are Phoenix guys.

Speaker 12 (08:44):
As any of those alumni reached out to you about
coming to Arizona and the experience they have.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Not those alumni, but Dale and Terry talked to me
a lot throughout my recruitment process, and me and him
are really close. He actually just called me before this
Prefast conference because he was at Prende, my middle school
he went to He went to the same middle school.
So he's always been connected with me and I've known
him since growing up.

Speaker 12 (09:03):
What has he told you about playing for Tom the
Lord and that experience that you went through it?

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, just I hit him and I was just like,
what do you think about Arizona? And he just said,
Coach Wood's a great coach and he's gonna let you
play if you just go out there and play hard
and a good.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Player, a good character, good kid.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Braiden said.

Speaker 12 (09:19):
His bolls from the season where to win the big
twall champions Like, win the national championship.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
What are you same as Brandon.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
We're gonna come in here every day to work to
that goal, and that's one goal we have.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
For sure.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
There's more team oriented than you thinking about it.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
I think if we win and we're good as a team,
all that other stuff will take care of itself.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
So he is going to be against the family national champion.

Speaker 9 (09:42):
You thought about just that, the atmosphere that that's going
to be like for your first game?

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
I mean when I'm coming here in the morning to
work out, I'm thinking about that. I'm thinking about that
when I'm coming in here to practice thinking about our
first game, and I'm excited for it and I'm gonna
work as hard as i can out of that day.

Speaker 12 (09:57):
What's one thing you've learned from the veterans who are
here but made them helpful?

Speaker 7 (10:04):
I would say just like the simple ins and outs
of our system. The kind of taught me that, like
they will pull me aside, tell me like some little
stuff just about about defense and offense. And I think
that's been helped me a lot. They're they're vocal, and
they're talking to me, and they're accepting me and letting
me come in here and be a be a basketball player.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So one of the things that that I got took
away from today that I got from the thing. So
we sit there with the Bury's or standing there with berries,
then we get a pete. I'm thinking Tommy doesn't doesn't
recruit bad dudes. No, you could tell that he just
recruits good dudes. And not that the other question is
did too, But they just fit Arizona's style profile.

Speaker 13 (10:48):
He cares more about Obviously you need to be talented,
Yes you have talented, but how are you going to
gel with the how are you gonna Gael with the community.
How are you gonna jel with the assistant staff and
everybody in the athletic department because you could be the
number one player in the country and be just a
jerk and nobody's gonna want to play for it, like

(11:10):
run through a wall for you. They're not going to
give effort. So what's the point.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Has Tommy ever been asked that question, like how do
you piece the team together? And if the players during
recruiting time they came in and said, you know, tell me,
I don't think he's he's the right fit. Would he say, okay,
I'll listen to you guys, and he's not going to
come here that.

Speaker 13 (11:31):
I don't think Tommy's ever been asked that, And if
he was, it was probably in the first couple of
years that he was here. But I mean, you've seen it,
Like everybody wants to talk about what was I could
say Santo or a Su. There's a reason he went su.
It's not because a Su won that recruiting battle. Arizona
finally said, you know what, I thought it was more

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Caleb love that he came back, and that's part of it.
But when you have a kid that's asked saying hey,
I want this, and I know I want you, and
then I'm going to change it up on you constantly.
Eventually you're gonna say, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well here's your to your point, and I'm not sure
if that's the connection. Though they had a chance to
get him back because he transferred right to Saint John's.
They didn't even look at it. That's and there you go, right,
they did not look at it, and that's where I
was going with it. Yeah, so if you wanted them,
then you don't want him now, well, okay, good ridden.
Not good riddance, but you know, good luck.

Speaker 13 (12:20):
And there's been players in the past where you know,
they lost out on recruiting and they entered the portal.
Oh we're going to take another look at him, and
there's that connection there. That's how a lot of these
transfers work, especially college football, as there's past history between
the two.

Speaker 10 (12:34):
But in that sense, there is nothing.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, no, I think I'll ask him that question eventually,
because it's true. I mean, for at least LUTs guys,
if they didn't think that he would fit in, they said, yeah,
I don't know. And Bobby was the number one point guard.
She would say, I'm not too sure he's going.

Speaker 13 (12:51):
To be able to work here, and towards then a
lut's career, you had some guys that well, probably shouldn't
know the.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Number great point because I was kind of go there.
I won't say who they were, but yeah, near the
end it was like heikes tlendar, sacrificing some things for
some things. Yeah, yeah, and it became bad. Yeah, you know,
guys that were kicked off came back. Yeah, yeah, you
can kind of. I'd probably get a call with the
guy who always asks about him, so yeah, yeah, you
know what we're talking about. Okay, thirteen, let's go, we're

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Steve Rivera He's got his eye on the ball on
Tucson sports station Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Hey, welcome back to my on the ball here on
Fox Sports tortuen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today with
vis Troy Hunterson and one at the controls now on
the phone, we have Tim Kish with the National Football
Foundation of Southern Arizona.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
M Are you an.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Assistant football coach? Head coach? All that good stuff?

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Coach?

Speaker 11 (18:05):
How are you I'm outstanding, Steve, and thank you for
having me on today.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Of course I ran into your pr agent last night,
Coach Baker, and I said, yeah, it's a good time
to have a good time to touch.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
To coach kids.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
You're talking about Bill. You're talking about young Bill Baker.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Right, yes, yes, got it. You know, I don't know
many ninety year olds, but he's ninety eight. He looks fantastic,
he's amazing.

Speaker 11 (18:32):
I have breakfast with him occasionally, and of course we
got to talk about how to solve all the world's
problems in football at least, so he's an amazing man.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Yeah, yesk you.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yes, Let's talk about the foundation first. And I think
you've been the head guy for about four or five
years now, right, Well it's I.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Just finished my third year and day okay.

Speaker 11 (18:54):
So yeah, I'm on four. You know, we're very excited
about everything that we've been able to. You know, our
vision that we had initially a couple of years ago
has really come to fruition and we're averaging about fifty
to sixty community events a year. I've got an amazing

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volunteer board, and we just got a great spirit about
us and we're doing a lot of great things, we
think in southern Arizona promoting the game of football. And
we right now we have about eight thousand student athletes
under our umbrella. So that's you football, both leagues, forty

(19:39):
five high school south of Phoenix, and also working a
little bit with you.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Ay, so let me ask you, I know all the
good work you do for these students. And there's a
lot of a lot of questions that involved this, but
what if this something like this didn't exist, what would
happen to those kids?

Speaker 11 (19:57):
Well, they I mean they might uh they might still
be playing football, but I don't know if they'd be
playing it the right way.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I mean, uh and uh.

Speaker 11 (20:07):
Uh you know we I mean it's not like we're
out here purchasing all the equipment and that type of thing.
What we're doing is we're we're doing camps and clinics
that are all free for the kids, trying to teach
them the right way to play the game. Really focusing
on the coaches more as much as we are the
kids to make sure that they're educating them the right

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way and they're they're in it for the right reasons.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Uh. As a coach, so.

Speaker 11 (20:35):
Yeah, uh, I guess that would you know, football would
carry on? I don't know what degree of football would be.
We feel like we're making a huge impact on all
levels of football and uh so yeah, that's uh that's
kind of our our niche and uh we just we

(20:59):
really feel like we're making a positive impact on the
football community of southern Arizona.

Speaker 13 (21:04):
Timmy said that, you know you got involved with this
being the head of it three years ago. What made
you want to be a part of this and how
did it all come about you joining this foundation?

Speaker 11 (21:16):
That's a great question, So I'll be honest with you.
When I retired from Oklahoma in twenty nineteen, we moved
back here. We always my wife and I always knew
we wanted to come back to Tucson. Our kids grew
up here. Two of my three kids went to U
of A. We absolutely loved the community. So honestly, I

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didn't even know the National Football Foundation had a chapter
here in Tucson and when I was coaching here, so
think or Sodo happened to reach out to me after
I've been back for a year or so and just
asked me if I'd have any.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Interest in, you know, come to.

Speaker 11 (21:56):
A meeting and find out what they were doing. And
to be honest with you, it was more or less
a good old boys club.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
It was really good people here in the community.

Speaker 11 (22:05):
Uh, but they didn't do a whole lot so and
fortunately for me, I guess uh I look at it
that way.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Now. I raised my.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
Hand, I I spoke up and said, this got a
chance to really do some do some good things here
in our community. And uh that's when we kind of
uh re lit the candle and move forward and started
uh uh pushing for all these events and the and
and being a support group for all the all ages

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of football players and boys and girls.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
So before I ask my next question, and got another
text real quick by from an old friend, another old
friend from yours. Rick Rnel says, to make sure to
see hi.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Uh good people.

Speaker 11 (22:50):
I'll tell you the too Son community.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Certainly embraced us when we were coaching here.

Speaker 11 (22:56):
Uh you know, we were you know, we were closed.
And I don't want to get into all that because
it doesn't matter at this point from really maybe making
a statement here with our football program here at U
of A. But you know, we certainly felt like we
had a lot of success. And again it was my

(23:18):
reasoning for coming back here. The bottom line is I
wanted to find something that I could do to get
back and since football was.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
My career, you know, it was my profession.

Speaker 11 (23:29):
For forty three years, this just seemed like the natural
fit for me to get involved with this organization. And
I'm certainly glad I did because it's paid off in
spades for sure for all of us.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
So, Tim, through all this stuff that you was talking about,
what you're telling me is not to retire, because you
when you tire, you get more busy after you retire.
So that's what you're doing.

Speaker 11 (23:55):
I'm laughing with you, Steve. But yeah, it's been great.
I mean I can't I can't be in the house
all day. I've played golf today. I you know, I
do get out there and hit the ball around a
couple times a week. I try to anyhow and have
a little fun doing that. And but yeah, this is
my heart and souls into this. And like I said,

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we have a tremendous board. We got some tremendous events
that we are involved with.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I think you know a few of them.

Speaker 11 (24:23):
But we're partnered with Arizona Bowl, so we do a
Friday night lights game we have sixteen games that we're
going to go to this fall, ten boys, six girls
flag football games, so our schedules sixteen games strong, and
then you know, we show our support there. So it's

(24:44):
great to be a partner with the Arizona Bowl. The
showcase that we do for seniors all over the state.
It's the only all state event that I our organization
sponsors is for seniors that are under recruited, and we
bring in colleges from all over the country Division three
and NAI schools and have a showcase up in the

(25:07):
Ottawa University and surprise Arizona once a year.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
We've been very fortunate.

Speaker 11 (25:12):
We're the smallest in number showcase wise of the four
that are out there in the country, Houston, Miami and
l a at one. That's they have much larger numbers
than we have, but percentage wise, we send more kids
to colleges than any of the other three. Well, so
we put one out of three on a college roster

(25:35):
that comes to our show.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Cause you messed up my question, But I'm okay with
that you because I was going to go there. Of
all the kids in the last few years with these
all star games, if you will, I'm sure, a number
of them. You maybe have a number off the top
of your head. You said one and three end up
who hadn't been looked at. Now find a spot.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
I'll give you a great example.

Speaker 11 (25:56):
We have two kids from CDO that came to the
showcase last year. Lauris College both offered him forty three
thousand dollars a year to go to college and play football.
One of them that only played football for one year
of CDO. And that's the type of that's what the
type of programs that work getting these kids involved in

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that are coming to our showcase. It's an amazing event.
We so we sponsored a toll aid by ourselves as
a nonprofit and we're just drilled to pieces to see
as many kids as we've had. Like I said, one
out of three that come there end up on a

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college roster.

Speaker 13 (26:38):
You know, I know you said you didn't want to
talk too much about the past, but right now Arizona
has Joe Saliva as the defense port here. I know
he was on the staff in that final year for
Arizona with you there, just your thoughts on him being
back and what type of coach he has been able
to turn himself into since way back when.

Speaker 11 (26:58):
Well, Joe's a great guy. Absolutely loved coaching with him
when he was here at U of A, and it's
a blessing to have him back here. I've been down
there to see him a couple of times watch practice.
Joe's a no nonsense guy. You know, he's gonna hold
his kids accountable. I'm sure the rest of the coaches

(27:19):
that are on that staff.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
But will be doing the same thing.

Speaker 11 (27:23):
The thing that's interesting and the thing that's you know,
just it's just become an awkward thing is you know,
this is the Arizona twenty twenty five version. What it
doesn't even resemble the twenty twenty four, and it probably
won't resemble the twenty twenty six. So I'm personally glad

(27:44):
I'm not in that profession right now.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
To be honest with him.

Speaker 11 (27:49):
I know how I react to a kid coming in
and telling me that he was going somewhere else because
I didn't blame him. As a freshman, I can tell
you I would have jumped over my desk. I can't
tell you what I would have done.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
After that, But.

Speaker 11 (28:04):
You know, it's just I'm so happy for Joe to
be back here. Ronnie Palmer's back here too as a
as a graduate assistant, kind of a defensive assistant coach.
One of the young coaches coming back. You know, Ronnie
played for me here at you have the great coach's
been the head coach at a junior college for the

(28:25):
last five years. And I don't know all the other
guys personally.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I know a few of them.

Speaker 11 (28:32):
Uh, but you know they they got their work cut
out for him. And uh yeah, but what little bit
I've been able to watch. I like the tempo up things.
I just like the speed that they're playing with on
both sides of the ball, and I hope that benefits
them in the fall.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
One of the questions I wanted to ask to have
you on is you were an assistant for a long time,
you were a head coach here for a Schmidge after
a Smakovic. Just could you talk about the pressure wasn't
after Oh yeah, yeah, IM sorry, Yeah, that's that's exactly
why it, Uh, the pressures of being a head coach
or even an assistant. You talked a little about the

(29:11):
about the transfer portals and things like that. Now where
there's money involved, Uh, just how intense is it?

Speaker 11 (29:20):
Uh? You know what it's at at the highest level.
It's uh, it's very intense.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (29:30):
You have to have some kind of a calm demeanor
though about you because you can't get let yourself get
too high and too low because there's so many swings.
I think the best coaches are the ones that can
fight through adversity.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (29:44):
And it's gonna show up on every campus. Uh you know, uh,
it just you just you know, somebody has to somebody.
I always called the head coach big hat, no cattle.
Uh you know that's that's that's really what I had.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
He's got to pull all the triggers. He's got to
be the calm, he's got to be the storm. He's
got to be everything.

Speaker 11 (30:08):
But you know it's today with the money and the
nil and I mean you and I could have at
I consider and talk to you for another hour about
my thoughts on all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
But uh, you.

Speaker 11 (30:21):
Know, I always have thought that it was kids getting
paid was the right thing to do. Steve and then
and then they had a rite about fifteen years ago,
twelve to fifteen years ago with the cost of attendance.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Do you recall that at all? Okay, so that was
a five.

Speaker 11 (30:40):
Thousand dollars across the board, every athlete, boy girl, any
school that could afford it, and it was gonna be
raised every two to three years. They were going to
raise the increment of how much they were gonna pay.
I thought it was spot on to do it that
way and just keep increasing it. And then it just
lost control because the double didn't enforce. It didn't force anything.

(31:03):
And that's when the nil came in, when they, you know,
started getting lawsuits for name, image and likeness. Started it
with a kid at Northwestern, another place I happened to be,
and it just moved on from there. But they lost control,
and I don't like it. I don't even take the
twenty point five million nil.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Direction is it's going to hold water.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
I honestly don't, So I hate to say it that way,
but I'm telling you the way I see it, having
been a part of it. But when it wasn't there
was no control. So anyhow, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
If I'm answering your question.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
No, you do it.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
There's a lot of pressure. That's what I got out
of that. But it's funny because you talk about the
money and things like that. We live in a time
now when the players parking lot is a lot more
fancy than the professors and the coaches parking lot.

Speaker 11 (32:00):
There's no doubt about it. I mean, what you know,
uh uh, what we've lost as amateurism. I mean, I
think everybody would admit that, you know, this is a
we're the college football is now the farm system for
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
You know, saying it may not be, you know, solely
that you.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
Still have the community relations of a college program that
I think are always going to be a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
And very meaningful in my opinion.

Speaker 11 (32:32):
I've been to some really great campuses in my career
and loved every one of them.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
But but uh, you know, there just isn't a There
isn't a firm.

Speaker 11 (32:45):
Grip on obviously, the transfer portals absolutely insane to me.
Uh and uh, whether or not they ever fix it,
I honestly think what's gonna happen, if you want my
honest opinion, is the SEC in the big and after
this twenty twenty six contracts up with the playoff schedule,
they're just gonna add whoever they want to add and

(33:08):
then just go on their merry way and let everybody
else send for themselves.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
That's what I.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Think if we could circle back before we have to
say goodbye. How can people help you in the foundation,
whether it's going to golf tournaments or fundraising and or
maybe donating.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, well, we only have one fundraiser year. It's in May.

Speaker 11 (33:30):
We have a clinic the first weekend in May for
all the youth and high school coaches. That shoot, we
had over three hundred and fifty coaches at that last year.
Was an awesome thing. And then we have the golf
fundraiser in May. It's gonna be up at the okakisad
Or golf course. Again, we're always looking for foursomes to
help out and whole sponsors and that type of thing.

(33:52):
On our website, which is the nf F so AS
and f f O a Z dot org, you can
go on there and you can donate if you choose
to do so. We're grateful for anything that comes our way.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Like I said, we do a lot.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
Of great things with the kids in the community and
just trying to help impact the future community leaders through
the game of football. And I do want to say
one more thing about the girls Flag. We were the
first chapter in the country to honor them as scholar
Athlete award winners and we're very very.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Proud of that. You know, it being a Olympic.

Speaker 11 (34:38):
Sport in twenty twenty eight, it's catching fire. And we've
gone from six two to six to twelve teams now
in southern Arizona and we'll be at every one of
those girls games this year. So we're excited about that.
But anyhow, thank you man. I'd love to see it on.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
But you guys I talked football day.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well, no, I don't say that to me because if
you're going to say I'm available, you're gonna come in
and be a co host. I promise you that.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Okay, I do it in a heartbeat. Steve, you just
let me know when we can rank.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I'm just gonna I gotta tackle you on a golf course.
What these days to get you in so I'll find you.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Uh, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 11 (35:21):
Any any anything I can do to help the cause,
I'm here for it. And uh, I love this community,
I love kids, I love giving back and uh uh,
like I said, I got an awesome board and we're
very very proud. I guess I can say this now
and this will be the last thing and you let
me go.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
We just got honored.

Speaker 11 (35:42):
Uh, we just got told by the National Football Foundation
office that we were going to be honored at the
College Hall of Fame banquet this year up in Las
Vegas as the West Region Chapter of the Year.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Oh nice, nice, you're doing some great stuff for the kids.
Thanks a bunch, coach.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Well, thank you. Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2 (40:14):
Hey, welcome back to elball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
I'm Steve Rivera, your Troy and your one. We had
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Speaker 6 (40:26):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
That was a fun interview.

Speaker 13 (40:27):
Yeah, you know, we didn't dive too much into the
past because there was one thing I wanted to ask, Oh,
what would have been that when they were coaching Arizona
stadium for the most part was full, even when they
were building up that program.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Under sooops, I think you're correct.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
How do you get it back? Is there way back?

Speaker 6 (40:45):
Question?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's a good question when yeah, when I do. I
didn't cover football back then, but I did you know?
I was there a time or two. I think it
was Iowa game. It was huge maybe bringing those teams back,
those teams that have a lot of people here.

Speaker 10 (40:58):
But even that will UCLA.

Speaker 13 (41:00):
They were a massive underdog beat the snot out of
number seven. That stadium was full when they beat Cal
That stadium.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Question, what do you guys think? I mean, you guys
are vocals.

Speaker 13 (41:11):
I think one major problem is the attention span of
today's fan, especially younger, younger than what I am, younger
than one. It is a short attention span. They don't
want to sit there. This game's kind of boring, and
that in the crowd, in the in the zoo. And
then you're competing with technology. You're competing with phones and

(41:36):
a massive thing. And they won't ever do this again.
You don't never see it. Back in the day, you're
able to leave the stadium. Students would sneak in alcohol
from the seven to eleven across the road and then
re enter the stadium. You're not allowed to leave the
stadium now. Now you're done, you can't come back. You
can't come back. And I don't see that changing, especially
with the students.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
That please the fifth with with the.

Speaker 19 (42:02):
Fifth no, but I'm right there with Troy. I'm not
gonna lie. I hated watching football games as a student
in the student section because no one was into it.
I was the only one cheering or yell it's it's
first and ten Arizona needs a defensive stop or even
just momentum, yeah, because that was a word at that time,

(42:27):
and they were just they didn't care. No one, No
one cares anymore. It's mostly a place no one wants
to be a fan, even the students. Even the students,
they're just there to be. They are there to be there.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
To say they went to Arizona, see themselves on the
big screen, to.

Speaker 19 (42:43):
Enjoy the good music, even though it's not that good.

Speaker 13 (42:47):
They let me tell you something, this is what I
was proposed to to desiraate in McHale not so much,
maybe even in the football stadium.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
And there are two different audio audiences, I think because
it's it's more older people and Michale and you have
the student section. But why not during timeouts, have like
a sing along sing along just to make it put
the music not let me tell you you're I've seen
it in other places, and it's like a song like
get a song. I mean J Jed tried that. It

(43:18):
was a horrible choice. Yeah, well like sweet out sweet,
but what's the one that is Caroline blah blah blah
something like that. They get going, not throughout the whole game,
but you know two or three kids. You get the
old people who know the song and the young people
who kind of get into it too. I'm not talking
all the time, but every now, during those long timeouts,
because what are you getting now, You're getting a dog

(43:39):
walking across the stadium, or you're getting the x uh yeah,
the shootout, the shootout there for the free throw line.
You need something to engage the fans. Well, the basketball.
You don't have the man anymore.

Speaker 13 (43:54):
I think that was something and that was clever at
the time, but I think it would still it would work.

Speaker 10 (43:59):
It would have that.

Speaker 13 (44:00):
You can't have a random dude doing it has to
be the tradition of it, and well, you.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Know a random dude you need if you want to
recreate it, you need to have Troy go out there
or someone Troy, he mean someone or two people going
out there and acting foo.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Uh. I lost my train of thought. Come back to me.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
But you're catching Steve, I really am.

Speaker 13 (44:23):
But for football, I mean it to me. Basketball it's
about the volume, not about the attendants. Football, it's about
the attendance. Yes, it's about the attendants.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Well, con you hear the stuff and I talk about you.
There too is a fan that sound sucks and you
have the DJ. The people on the other side of
the in the west side don't have a clue what
the music is. It's the kids that don't care that's
their music.

Speaker 13 (44:46):
My biggest thing with football, the bugs the heck out
of me, is that fans will complain all the games
are on too late, Like if it's an eight o'clock
AF then they'll complain, Oh, it's too early, it's too hot. Sure,
Well what window do you want when I want that
five o'clock window? Well, guess what, you're not good. You're
not good enough to be getting You're not getting the five.
But we've seen it where it's a seven o'clock window,

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which is a good time, and it's still on.

Speaker 10 (45:10):
Still, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
This is the Goldilocks era of football here at Arizona.
This one's just this is not tough enough. This is
the this one's just right. Well, sorry, you can't play
that one because you haven't won any games.

Speaker 13 (45:21):
And you've seen it in Michail everybody complaining about them.
The nine o'clock we saw what game was that? The
Iowa state it was and it got better as the
game went on, But it was a six o'clock, six
pm tip, prime time tip. Stadium was half full of
finance before the game.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Let me say this, And because we look at each
other all the time, because every time I won every time.
Look at this, there's nobody in the building, just even
around us, right. I think it was a Houston game.
Yeah that's the game.

Speaker 10 (45:47):
It was not. Yeah, Houston.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
So you're talking about that, and and Tommy, everyone's upset.
What Tommy said about Kansas. He's he's talking about he's
talking exactly what you're saying. They're not they're early, they're
not in your seats right to go. They're not excited
to go, because with two minutes left or two minutes
into the game, they're still filing into their seats.

Speaker 13 (46:06):
And not only that, if they're up by a bunch
of the end of the game, they're leaving with five
minutes left. And if they're down by a bunch at
the end of the game, they're leaving with five minutes.
Even if it's a close game, you're seeing people get
up and walk and start the.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I know we're pissing people off now who are loyal
to the fence, but but it's true.

Speaker 10 (46:22):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
It's truth that might just need to happen. That getting
getting Yeah, I'll show him no. But that's that was
his only point. The places they show up early and
they're ready to go, Arizona not so much because you
and I look at each other, say where's the crowd,
and it's there ten minutes in, but shortly ten minutes in.

Speaker 19 (46:42):
Yeah, I know it's a rivalry, but it is kind
of amazing you get a big crowd for an ASU
game on a on a random Wednesday, for basketball, for basketball.
I don't think so, you know, I'm telling you that
this is what happens in my eyes.

Speaker 10 (46:55):
Okay, okay, bye bad, go ahead.

Speaker 19 (46:57):
They there's a lot more. They're there early, ready to
go because it's a issue. But then a team like Houston,
they're coming in still five minutes after.

Speaker 10 (47:05):
The tip off.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
Yeah, I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm not too sure. If the games were at six,
like right after work and blah blah blah, at nine o'clock,
I understand it's a it's not the demographic for the
night special Monday, right right, But at the six o'clock
everyone's still kind of going back and forth from working
home and picking up whatever. But guess what, Historically that's
how it's been. I mean, there's not one off, it's

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just the way it is now.

Speaker 13 (47:30):
I'll say this year there is the added issue of
the Monday night games in the Big twelve. It's no
longer Thursday Saturday right now, it's Saturday, Monday or Sunday
or Saturday Weeknesday. Those are rough And for Tucson when
it's those eight nine o'clock tip on the beginning of
the week game, you're you're you're gonna have some crowd issues.

(47:50):
But yeah, again, I think the fix and I know
fans don't like it, and financially, it's just not going
to happen. You move the zone is to the middle,
moving them to the side, it's not gonna happen. You
could dream somewhere, I know, I'm just saying, and.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I don't even know if that's going to solve it
because everyone wants to be Duke and you're not Duke,
and this up.

Speaker 13 (48:11):
Pretend you were because you're That's not. What what I'm
saying is. I think you'll be able to draw more
of the students in and it will be louder.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Well, this is the this is this is.

Speaker 19 (48:20):
A point that's that's been set across the student body.
They need the lights on, the need that you said
the ed capital need those lights on.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. And I didn't
even notice that ntils You guys brought that up.

Speaker 13 (48:36):
I mean, you're you're falling asleep in there. It's a
nine o'clock game. You have a bunch of old people
in students that it's a theater viewing of the game. Yeah,
and Sean Miller really wanted those theater lights. That was
one of his big is a Sean Miller why he
said it brought an NBA atmosphere, a professional atmosphere to
the game to try to sell the five star recruits. Well,

(48:59):
this is an m B a atmosphere. You want an NBA.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Do you think they cared about that?

Speaker 13 (49:04):
No, I don't think either, but Sean did because Sean,
you know, Sean is a little crazy in terms of
the details the things.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That he wants.

Speaker 10 (49:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, no, I didn't know that was the answer to
that question. Yeah, no, no, what up? The lights make
it make it happen. Well, and you think the students
would be better, yes, you think they'd be better on
the sides, Uh, I don't.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
I don't think.

Speaker 19 (49:26):
I don't think placement kids that go to the football games. Yeah,
I don't think placement matters. I think the lights are on.
You're a little bit more energetic. It's it's a lot
more intimidating as far as as a view of an
opposed You.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Can see them, yeah, you can see this.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
No more.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
We've got to go in two minutes anyway, right, three minutes,
two minutes.

Speaker 13 (49:47):
But I mean, I was gonna say, once you get
past that aisle, the shape like behind the aisle in
the middle behind it, Yeah, you can't see them. Those
are tough seats and you're and you're watching the game,
but you don't feel part of it.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
You don't feel part of the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
On the course right there at the pod Ones.

Speaker 10 (50:06):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I don't know. You're not going to solve the old
people because they've always been there. I was the young
person and now I'm an old person. And it's the
same stuff that you and the students section is what
it is.

Speaker 13 (50:16):
And you're gonna constantly sit down. I'm trying to watch
the game.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Right, especially in those blue seats, because.

Speaker 10 (50:22):
You're about to tickets, stand up, enjoy the game.

Speaker 19 (50:26):
I'll say that that's one thing in rich Rod's was
maybe this isn't rich Rod necessarily, but during his era,
there'd be the kickoff where the fans would do like
this type of motion they had to jump around playing
kickoffs they had.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
They made me want to shout. That's that's what That's
what I was like that about. That's what I'm talking about.
Get the crowd involved with those types of things, not
all the time, but during certain timeouts you have, you
know the TV the long, longer TV timeouts. Get these
people engaged, because I think the older people would get
involved with Every time they play that song, people go out,
they get engaged to stop believing two or three songs

(51:02):
that's all you do, especially in those big games.

Speaker 13 (51:05):
Stoops was a master of the fourth quarter song, the
hype Son right before the fourth quarter every single season.
It was like something recent that gets everybody pumped up. Yeah, well,
you can't have a country road to take me home when.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
You're in there.

Speaker 10 (51:21):
You know, I was in the middle of the desert.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
You're referring to good thought that that execution.

Speaker 10 (51:27):
The son says Tucson. Nobody knows the son yet.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah, yeah, what's that new one? I missed my trip
to Tucson. Whatever, I'm late to Son.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, sorry, I'm here already. Ye should we do that.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
For this show?

Speaker 19 (51:41):
I have a single long portion.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah, Steve Yes, jump around just as good as it's cooking, right,
don't make me dressed up for it. Thanks guys, The
Good Show, Today, Tomorrow Special Show. We're gonna have the
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come on now with the Randy Robinson, So listow those guys.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Thanks