Hour 2- December 11, Brandon Sanders

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Now we have Brady with breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
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Sports fourteen fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Ooh, Thursday. Here we go, almost there, almost to the weekend.
Starting off with some local stuff. Obviously, the women's game
or the women's team played last night against Eastern Kentucky
and came out on top eighty seven to eighty three.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
MICHAELA.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Perdue was the leading scorer with twenty seven points, made
five threes, and then right behind her was Nolannie Cornfield
with twenty two and deny It Trammel with eleven.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yep, yep. Trying to get those wins before the Big
twelve starts. It was yesterday afternoon. They played yesterday afternoon
with the little little kids at the game. Oh really,
it was like a elementary game. Yeah, so it's pretty
packed with a lot of kids.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh it's sweet. Give him a good give him a
good crowd, I'm assuming.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, I also got off the two game skid that
they were on. Other big news that came out today
just kind of before the show started was GUYSK Crowley
will be headed to Arkansas. He was the U of
A's GM and you know obviously he helped, yeah recruiting a.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Very smart dude. We've had him on the show. We're
trying to get him on Monday. But now it makes
sense that he couldn't come on the reason why he
said we got Brennan obviously.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Did you listen to that interview with Brennan?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, I think I listened to part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Yeah, Yeah, he was good. He was funny too.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
So yeah, it's gonna be everyone says you lose somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
I guess what, there's somebody else.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
It's like a bus just got to find him, hot
chick around the corner, man.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, they sure are.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh, this is this is one for you el to Tucson,
a one hundred dollars entry right now. So if you if
you want to get ready for that right now.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Where did you find that? That's an odd one from you?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
It's on Twitter? Man, Okay, that's where I get a
lot of news. It's a good news site, a good
news site. Obviously, the big one from the weekend coming
up is going to be the Auburn game or the
Alabama game, I'm sorry in Birmingham.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
So that's gonna be one to look out for.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Tonight we have Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Atlanta Falcons.
Mike Evans should be coming back from his broken collar bone,
so that's gonna be one to watch out for. Tampa
is favored sixty three and a half percent to Atlanta's
thirty six point three percent. I don't know how that

(02:38):
comes out, but all right, Okay. Obviously big news from
yesterday kind of leading into today is Sean Moore getting
getting fired and then you know, having a I guess.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
A bit of an episode breakdown.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, and uh being jailed or arrested for that, so that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
He's probably gonna get out pretty soon. I'll assume he'd
get up by now.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, maybe not.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, I mean, you just gotta see, right, because you
never know how long something like that can last.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, and then obviously he's I think they said his
uh pre like his first hearing is going to be
on Friday, So that's gonna be one to to look
out for tomorrow. Indiana's quarterback for Nando Mendoza. Mendoza was
named the AP Player of the Year. Okay, so you know,
I think he's a favorite for the Heisman right now,
and so that's kind.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Of like number two. He's he's got up. I don't
get it.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I mean he's got Yeah, he's got spun.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Spunk is a good word from Albuquerque. He's got spunk.
But did you get the Noah FLA I think AP
twelve twelve?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, it was him and Dalton Johnson and then Trade
and Stukes. I think was second team all I want
to say All America.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, big twelve.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Well if you go earlier finishing. Really have a question
for Jay real quick.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
This is one that I'm really looking forward to. Is
the Army Navy game. It's this week?

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Where's it Philly?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
It is?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh, it doesn't say right here. I might have to
look for it. Go Army though. Oh it's in Baltimore. Okayo, yeah,
go Army. LA Bowl is going to end after Saturday's
game between Washington and Boise State. Obviously, Gronk is the
kind of the big title named host for that Jeds.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, and Jed's going to be there.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Jed's already has been mentioned for the Michigan job.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
You know, you've got the bandwidth of coaches available shrunk,
So that's that's certainly going to be one.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, it's going to be an interesting one to look
out for the Thunder. Not only did they absolutely blow
out the Suns last night, but they matched the Warriors
with a twenty four to one start.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Obviously they had that great seventy seventy three game winning
season that they didn't end the chip with.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
That was the That was the Draymond Greens kicking the crotch.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
When it Yeah, it was that year. Yeah, Game five,
Yeah yeah. Damn.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Peter Alonzo, Yes, well this is from yesterday, but I
don't think Juan mentioned it. So pet Alonzo reached a
five year, one hundred and fifty five million dollar deal
with the Orioles. Obviously he was with the Mets, didn't
work out after a while, decided to go somewhere else
and then a big matchup in women's hoops from last
night apart from Arizona Arizona Women's hoops obviously was the

(05:30):
Iowa State and the Iowa matchup.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Iowa State's pretty good. Audie Crooks did good.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
She had thirty points and ten rebounds, averaging twenty seven
point eight on seventy two point two shooting from the field.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Is that the young lady that works inside.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
And she's what she's in junior now, Yeah, she's the
leading scorer.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
She's good.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, and she she I feel like she's kind of
started to come out a little bit last year and
now she's just really kind of cementing her spot. This
is another one that I really to signed upper deck.
Kobe card fetches one point twenty two million at auction.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Do you do that?

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Eating reach into the old coffers and hey, let's get
that dear.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
And then and then were okay, so it's good, we're
gonna play it here.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah, that's one day and then hoping nobody takes it right.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, that's it for me.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, So let me ask you, because coach Kish brought
this up Indiana. Okay, they apparently spend money right on people,
but so did lsu Uh So I'm not a firm
believer Jay about this that if you get the best
guys on a team, then it works out no matter
what you're paying them to me. Coaching still matters, development

(06:46):
still matters, and chemistry still matters. So you could have
a nice out, it's you can have a nice Mercedes,
but sometimes that car won't get you across the street.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, I think that the.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Know you brought you bring up LSU And I'm just
going to say one thing, because you know, everybody you
know talked about the red turning quarterback Newsbaum whatever his
name is. He's the best returning quarterback in the SEC.
I just didn't think it was very good. A year ago,
Fernando played at CAL and I watched him play, watched
him make plays, uh without a great offensive line, and
you're like, boy, if his kid could just stay up right.

(07:22):
So to your point, though, there's there's kids and their
cores are still kids that want to be coached and
want to get better.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
And so everybody's got the money.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
The one thing about IU that people don't realize, and
I spent eight years out there in butler Iniandianapolis, that
that donorbase is loaded. Okay, there there's always been money.
You just have to give him a reason to spend
it on football, right, and and so you know you
hear people talking about how did they build a roster
so much over two years? They said, well, you know,

(07:55):
everybody's got the same chance to go pick guys. But
I do know this with Feranana and he is a uniter,
and he's and he and he's a tough kid, so
he takes a beating so he has you know, people
are like, no, there's great respect, we have good leadership,
and you know it's just and the coach. I mean
I got to give him credit, right, you know, I

(08:16):
win google me.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I mean no, no, did he say that? That's something
I would say.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, he said it when he got hired. He been hired.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
You know he says no because we haven't heard you listen,
I win google me.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Then he goes on to call out Michigan and Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I didn't know that, but that's fantastic. You know what,
if you don't believe me, check it out.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
And so to his credit, I mean, who you who
you decide to recruit? Is it matters? And then can
they blend yes?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (08:48):
And you know it does work better if everybody's getting
paid enough so you don't have the petty stuff. Yes,
but when they went into Oregon and out and we're
more physical the second half and that Oregon down, You're like, whoa.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
You just can't do that.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Because when you play football and I'm across the line
from you, and if i know that I can beat you,
you know that I'm I'm better than you too, and
so you can you can exert your own will on.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
These guys because they feel that.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
That's the one thing about football is like, oh my gosh,
this guy's good and so and I and you did
that to Oregon. Yeah, and on the line. And so
when you have those offensive defensive linemen like that that
are that are you know they're running your huddle along
with the quarterback. I mean that team is a physical
mentally and physically physically tough.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
No question, no question there. You can tell the coach
is good just by listening to him what he's done
that doesn't happen by accident.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
That's funny. I win google me that. What a fantastic thing.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
But the outside of the thing I said earlier to
begin the show was emotions play a factory, and how
you went coaching matters. If there's anything. I've learned that
in coaching matters.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Well coaches, good coaches can can can can create a
culture if everybody likes the culture. You know, I like
the culture. But just get along with each other. That's
the biggest thing, the chemistry, you know. And so they
found the secret sauge with this roster relative to everybody
getting enough money. Yeah, and now now let's go, let's
coach and let's play. And you know, bringing the guys

(10:18):
from James Madison that he brought and they all.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Were all performed there, all winners players.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
It's like, okay, so you know, you there's some there's
some props and respect there. Yeah, some James Madison guys
came to IU. They were better than the guys that
were at IU.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, right right, let's go, let's take a break. We're
gonna get ahold of Brandon Sanders here when we come back.

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Speaker 2 (15:30):
Hey, welcome back to IE in the Ball here on
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Now on the phone. We help Brandon Sanders with you
A tell me exactly your title because I don't want
to screw it up.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Brendon. Thanks, Oh, go ahead one more time we lost you.

Speaker 12 (15:46):
Oh sort Coordinator of Alumni and High School Relation.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
What a job you have? What a job you have?
You have fun? I'm sure.

Speaker 12 (15:54):
At times it is fun and at times it's a
bit of a headache, but we may do.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
You win nine games and it's fun.

Speaker 12 (16:03):
You know, it's been fun at all times because at
the end of the day, we're just trying to For me,
the biggest part is just bridging the gap with a
lot of our alumni and that's you know, there have
been a twenty twenty somebod year fracture of guys feeling
like they wanted to be in the in the around
the building or around the team. So that's been huge.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
No, and you've done a great job with us.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm wondering, and this is an impromptu question, did you
miss coaching?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Would you come back?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (16:36):
Yes, absolutely, at the end of the day, I love competition,
so definitely want to find a way to get myself
back onto the grass. But at the same time, while
I'm here on my head is where my feet is. Yeah,
and uh, and I get a chance to learn from
some of the best coaches man in the United States.
It's been a blessing.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah. So just kind of curious.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
You know, you've you certainly had your experience in the
nineties desert storm and you know the the you know, uh,
the Arizona Ashue rivalry at that time hot as always
so last I mean a couple of weeks ago, a
shoe victory still hold the same level of passion and
and you know, uh, you know that that good feeling

(17:23):
like like it was when you were playing. And then
the other piece just go from how does everybody feel
about you know, bowl game with with s m U.

Speaker 12 (17:31):
I think anytime you're going to get the team up north, uh,
I think it's not as spicy as it was when
I first got here, but it's still it's still a
heated rivalry. When you talk about, you know, just between
the Tucson and Phoenix, the you know, the Wildcats and
the you know, the team up North, I think it

(17:53):
still brings out the best in in in both teams.
I think most coaches when they first come in, you know,
I've had a chance over the last you know, two coaches.
Really the one thing when you talk about Coach Fish
and when you talk about coach Brannan, who actually had
been here before, but you know he the one thing
he said was both of them said, you know, they

(18:15):
didn't realize how how firey this it is a one
game season. They didn't realize how firey it was until
they actually played in it. And even coach Dilly him
said that two years ago when we won up there,
So yeah, it's major. And then to be able to
do that, and not only do it, but also didn't
cap it off with a with a Holiday Bowl. Invite

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me and come on, man, it's nothing better than that.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
So I want to go back to one thing.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
I just want to you know, when you talk about
spice yet, that word just triggered me because that's exactly
what it was, and people didn't understand. I mean, they
created the Festa Bowl because Arizona State didn't get into
a ball.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
No one cared about them back in the seventies.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
But as a kid from Tucson, I grew up with
Arizona State winning eighteen out of twenty years. Yeah okay,
And so you know, Jim Young comes in with the
staff and they start to change some things. It's more competitive,
but ill, I'm still not sure about John Jefferson's catching
seventy five. I mean, those things matter to people from Tucson,
and so I would really like to hear you're talking

(19:13):
about spicy.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
I'm happy to hear that we had you know, coach
Brennan remembers those things. He endured those in the nineties here,
you know, with that little time they had with coach Tomy.
So it's a big deal to people from Tucson, which
is why I asked the question, is it still matter
to the kids?

Speaker 12 (19:31):
Yeah, well, definitely, definitely to the kids, especially when you
talk about recruiting the state, which I think our school
for sure. Up North they'll do theirs. But when you're
talking about recruiting the state, both schools will have you know,
players or athletes from the state of Arizona. And now
you got to live with that, you know, I mean

(19:52):
if you lose it. So you definitely don't want to
do that. You know, when I came in in ninety one,
I came in in the streak right, and when I
read a shirt year, there was a deep hatred from
the team up North for us. I'm talking about like
when we're walking out the old tunnel at the stadium
that used to be I'm talking about, they're throwing pieces

(20:14):
of carrots on it, they're dumping beer on us. I
think when we left they threw rocks and stuff at
our bus. You're not getting that part now in the
twenty twenty five, but that that's that's how real it was,
and that was my introduction to it.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, one of the things that I noticed I was
on the on the sidelines with you guys celebrating. You
know you I think you know, I acknowledge each other.
You had Ricky there too, taking pictures with the selfies
and all the selfies that Ricky takes. The coaches. The
coaches are nice dudes, and you don't you don't see
that too often in this rivalry because you know, we
all know Brent's one of those dudes.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Is good dude, and so is Dying.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Did you get that sense.

Speaker 12 (20:52):
Too, Yeah, a little bit. But you know, I think
when you look at at staff's right, when you look
at the staff, you know, coach Coach Gonzales coached up there, right,
and then coach I know he's on he was on
a break. But coach Charlie Rego and Coach Vince Amy,
we're down here on Arizona staff. And then some of

(21:13):
those coaches Coach Aguano, coach coach Mons, you know, they
coached here in state at Arizona, and so you have
that already connection with the coaches on East Staff because
either they were recruiting that Chandler and and Touorro and
and Chaparral, and you know they're either coaching or or
recruiting those guys. So you developed a relationship. And then

(21:34):
then then coach Royal and coach coach Brennan. I mean
they go back to coach Tony days in San Jose.
So you know, there's a lot of friendships. So you
can't just just end those, you can't. You know, you
got to keep it in some in some ways respectful.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
So just one thing that things keep changing and is
a basketball coach, I'm far more familiar with the basketball
recruiting calendar with the football recruiting calendar right now, and
the team is going to leave at some point in
time and be away from Tucson.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
You got a portal that's going to open.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
I don't know if you still recruit, you know seventh,
you know kids that graduate from high school early and
junior college kids so they can get into school.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
It's fring semester.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
But just kind of what's the recruiting calendar, like how
does this the bowl game and things? How does it
shift priorities or or how do you manage to keep
recruiting during this window and while you're still you know,
working with bowl game and portal whatnot.

Speaker 12 (22:36):
I mean, I would like to I would like to
be able to tell you exactly how you do each one,
but but it changes, It's been different, you know. So
right now we're in a dead period, so you know,
you can't have any kids on campus or anything like that.
So we're in a dead period currently. And then the
transfer portal actually opens the day we play the Highland Bowl, okay,

(22:58):
and so you'll see some young men across the country
will you know, notify that they're getting in the portal.
But if they're not in the portal, we can't talk
to them, right so you just have to you know,
people will hear things and you just have to be ready.
Right now. You got you got players with quote unquote
de facto agents or you know, high school coaches and
all those kinds of things, so you will get some information.

(23:21):
You'll see stuff online. But but the high school early
the early recruiting period that just you know, signing day
period that just ended two days last week. That's heavy.
You know, you still have and most of those a
lot of those kids you'll want to have them. You'll
want to have them as mid your transfers, right, and
then you have to get everybody else in as far

(23:43):
as the transfer window. Transfer window is entirely different than
your normal recruiting. It's like speed dating because you'll get
I mean, you literally can have a kid come in
on a Monday, uh, fly out on a Tuesday, and
go to another school on Tuesday night and be at
another school on Friday. They will they can take unlimited

(24:04):
trips now and so you'll have that as far as
a lot of transfers. So you may be doing that
as well. And that's right in the middle of playoffs.
That's right in the middle of a AFCA convention. So
and it wasn't like that a year ago, but then
a year before that it wasn't like it wasn't like
it was last year. So our coaches and our staff

(24:26):
along with everybody is you just have to be ready
to you know, to bob and weeds, right. And because
the recruiter never stopped this twenty four to seven.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
So when you got this position, I want to go
back to something you said about the disconnect maybe for
twenty years till two decades and I covered the team
in the late eighties. So I know a lot of
those guys, and there was I mean, they were not
welcome to the or embraced as if they wanted to
come into WA's a practice or be connected. So was
it difficult for you, even though you are in a

(25:00):
lumba or a former player to kind of reconnect and say, hey,
it's different now, or what was your what was your spiel?

Speaker 12 (25:07):
What was a little bit easier for me is I
played in a unique time that that that early the
mid nineties and then had a connection with the Desert Swarm.
So if you played before us, you can kind of
re reattach to the Desert Swarm. And then if you
played after us, well you can steel revert back. Even
coach conzults sometimes we're in twenty twenty five can revert

(25:28):
back to that time. So a lot of a lot
of people I resonated with a lot of people that
that just knew me and and and so I had
a connection of network. And then with help with the
the A Club and letter winners, were able to really
really go out and reach out to a lot to
very via email via zoom. I know you see, we

(25:51):
do zooms every pretty much every month throughout the year.
But it was just making sure one we just give
information out, especially during the time when when Jed when
Jed got here, sorry, coach Fish got here. You know,
everybody's coming off of COVID and so now you know,
you have a chance to try to bring more people
back because everything was slow instead of getting back in,

(26:14):
everybody's starting to go back to work and starting to
go back to schools and starting to you know, venture
out again, and so everybody's a little slow paced. So
it made it a little bit easier to kind of reconnect.
But now again, I think you're trying to look for
you know, a different ways so it doesn't want to
get stale, but to just keep building it. And that's
what I'm trying to do now.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
So just a little bit.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
I don't want to get in any of the CFPS
selections and all those business, but I do have a
question for you know, I think when you were playing
here at the you of a eleven game regular season,
Bowl game twelve, okay, things changed because revenues need to change.
And then it's now so so you played in the
NFL with with opt outs. That just happened, you know,

(26:57):
there's a lot of chatter about the future of the
Bowl games. It seems inevitable that it's going to go
from twelve to sixteen. That's that's for me. I just
see that's what's gonna happen. So as a player, how
many games are too many games.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
For a college kid? Okay, because it's it's you get
to sixteen.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
There's no byas so that's for you're already playing twelve.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
You have a conference game.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
I mean, just your your your thoughts on that for
for college kids?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Make games are too many games?

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Or is you know anyway curious to hear your answer
on that.

Speaker 12 (27:33):
I think, you know, I think I think we're right
at the right amount roughly. I think it going to sixteen.
Here's what you'll you'll need to have happen, and you've
seen it happen in the NFL when they added to
extra game and some other things. That you have to
have the ability to have flexibility with the roster and

(27:54):
make and make some concessions to make it a little
bit bigger. I know we have title nine. Your roster
is limited, Like right now now we're lived to one
hundred and five. Everybody's one hundred and five. But once
you have that one one oh five is what we say,
you can't add anyone like the NFL. So again, when
you're playing the third twelve thirteen, fourteenth game, you're gonna

(28:16):
have people that get injured. We go through injuries. Everybody's
going through injuries. You're looking at you know, I heard,
you know, the team up North some of their fans
thought about, well, what we had injuries. That's what we
did too. It's how many people do you have on
your roster that are able to play and you can
plug and play because you need depth. So to me,
I think we're right at the right amount. I think
adding a six sixteen team playoffs. I like the idea

(28:41):
of it because here's what I think. I think when
you when you said twelve, you you were gonna run
into a problem of having I think anywhere from nine
to thirteen fourteen, there's gonna be there's gonna be some
people that will be upset and tight from fifteen to twenty.
Talking about your rankings from fifteen twenty, which you know,

(29:01):
I know that that's over sixteen, but I don't think
you'll have as much people with gripe. If that makes sense,
you can still have probably two group group of five.
You can still you know, help Notre Dame as long
as they're in the top twelve get in, and then
everybody else kind of can slot from there and then
just go from that. I think the bowl games start
to not go too long. But I think the current

(29:23):
bowl games as they are, some will go away because
of the conference, you know, alignments that they used to
have that are gone now, and then others. I think
you still have to be able to go ahead and
do that because it is you know, there is a
little break and then they can still go out and
you can still generate money in those good bowl games
Citrus Bowl, Holiday Bowl, Alamobo, stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Brennan has always thanks a bunch for joining us too long.
Thank you you, good luck, good luck in a couple
of weeks or three, it's around the corner. Thanks a bunch,
all right, BRender, That was Brenda Centers. Let's take a
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Speaker 2 (33:41):
Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera here with me
Today's Jay John got to Rey handling the phones. We're
gonna take about five minutes to listen to Tommy Lloyd's
pers conference. Hey, we're coming back. We're having a technical difficulty,
so we're not going to listen to Tommy. Maybe if
you can, can you fiddle with it while we're on,

(34:03):
or no, you can't know until you're all right? Yeah, no, no, big.
He spent about seventeen minutes, twelve fifteen minutes talking about
the big game tomorrow. Yeah, I think one of them
things are defending the three trying to get ready. I'm
surprised that he's I guess they're leaving early tomorrow or
maybe tonight he's.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Got his radio show.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Uh, I think tonight five o'clock after the show, after
the show. So you know, it's funny because you were
talking about the LSU trip. Many times Luke went in
late for even afternoon, early afternoon game and he had
to do his walks right early in the morning and
have the guys walk with him every now and again,

(34:42):
and sometimes the most difficult games. I mean, I remember
Chicago a time or two. The game you mentioned they
were like ambushes, they just really were. Well, the Chicago
won the year after the United was the United Center.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Yeah, that was that was an ambush for the kids. Yeah, okay,
and and uh, you know, I can't remember. You know,
typically you could probably find a NonStop flight from tu
Son in Chicago, but a lot of the things from
Tucson without chartering at the time, you know, you had
to make a stop. Yeah, you know, and you're still
you know, you're still you're still pre nine to eleven.

(35:18):
So you know, there's you know, other little you know
things that just kind of held things up. I mean, people,
we get off the bus at the hotel and there's
there's twenty five people, so the kids not like it's
free pass for the kids to just focus in and stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
That's constantly people coming at him.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
But yeah, that's just again and you know, coaches, he's
had his commitment to the academics.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
So some of these.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Were these games were in December and ye you know
your your you know, we went to Yukon year the
week before the the Illinois game. You know, we that
was when we left the coach coaching and go with
this on that track.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I was going to ask you that because I had
ras on, you know, because he coached that team.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Yeah, yeah, that game and that was you know, we
play well, but it was you know that one, you know,
in terms of when we left and and the time
of the tip, that one, you know, that was that
one made sense? Yeah, okay, the one. The next one
was very much like the Louisiana one because I think
it was eleven o'clock or noon tip in the United

(36:19):
Center and you're still losing two hours.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right right now. And I've been in my books, I've
done a few of those games where he went to
Pittsburgh overnight and got up early and it was just,
you know, defeats the kids. The kids legs weren't ready.
The mentality was.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
One of the things though with coach always you know
I learned over the four years, is he wasn't afraid
of that. You know, he liked well, he liked adversity
because it allowed a team, you know, to you know,
scuff their knee and then we can get back to business.
Because there always was you know, I always used to
talk about I'm not the only one.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
You know, Jim ros will say the same thing.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Routing the guys I work with, you know, you didn't
if you lost the first game on road trip, you
you you knew it, you know, and you knew how
coach was there no way, there's no way on that
Friday practice, there's no way, you know, the same thing
in a home game.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
And it was u c l a week.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
I mean, he come down that he'd come down that
ramp and you're like, it's a stride and it's like okay, no, no, no,
and everybody you know, it's all right, it's on. And
so that was the kind of thing that coach did,
and so he didn't mind it, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
And and uh.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
You know, he ripped the team pretty good after the
Chicago game, and and uh, you know there was that
that game didn't and uh, you know a lot of
people back in the Midwest, it's kind of ironic what
we did in the tournament to go through you know,
to go through Illinois and to go through Michigan State
because a lot of people thought we were too soft.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Right, let me let me throw this game at you. Shoot,
oh no, I just lost it. It'll come to me.
So I can't remember now. It was such a such
a what year it was that same year two thousand,
two thousand game. No, you're coming from You're coming from Hawaii.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
I think we were. That was.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
That was one of those things that three games in
a row against Calbrol competition. You know, we take him
mid I, we take him mid I red eye flight
to Indianapolis on a Thursday and we're going to tip off.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
That was it. That was another one of those things
you're like, you know, just the legs.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
You always knew, even when I got to be become
a head coach and if I'm in any of these
tournaments for three games, you got to give a team
a week off.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, how was And this is not the question I had,
It'll come to me, I hope. So, you know Bobby
Passes that year of the two thousand and two thousand
and one year, how was it kind of regrouping the
guys because that was such a tragedy.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
He was gone for two three weeks.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You know, the guys maybe had been kind of not scuffling,
but kind of the personalities weren't mashing and then all
of a sudden it caught fire when you return.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
Well it did, I mean, there was there were definitely
some just some chemistry issues at the time, you know,
at that time, and it got you know, it got,
it got flushed out before coach came back because that week,
you know, it was a hard week for the guys,
a hard week for everybody.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
We're gonna play col here on a Thursday. Then we're
going to have you know, the.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
The first celebration life service with you know, up in
the foothills, and then you know, we then we play
Stanford and we get rocked, and you know, then you've
got to come back to McHale for the public one.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
You know, it was, it was, there was a lot,
you know, but you know, at that particular.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Time, we we we you know, we had a couple
of little things happening and we had to have a
nice little meeting, get some things flushed out, and from
that point on it was good.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You lost one time after that, we got a chance,
maybe five minutes, just a quick fi minutes. We got
the head coach.

Speaker 19 (39:49):
Ye, your Arizona Wildcats, Tommy Lloyd is here. Wildcats on
the road and number twelve Alabama.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Let's hear from Tommy.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
All right, thank you, David.

Speaker 20 (40:02):
Yeah, we're good, We're good, and I like what my
phone doesn't ring? All right, guys, let's knock this out.

Speaker 19 (40:09):
When you see a team shoot fifty seventy three point
shots and you're watching that table.

Speaker 21 (40:14):
I mean, what do you what do you use?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
What do you think of?

Speaker 16 (40:16):
What are you thinking about that?

Speaker 20 (40:17):
Well, obviously they're comfortable shooting a lot of threes. You know, Uh,
Nate's done a great job at Alabama. I mean they
have a real identity and a real conviction to how
they play. And if you if you have an identity
and a conviction and it's well coached, you can almost
win anyway. And and so uh so, yeah, so obviously
we know it's a great challenge for us, and we've

(40:38):
got to do a good job depending the three point line.
But you know, usually when when when when the three
point line, you also get hurt by layups, and you know,
the combination of those two things together are kind of
the backbreaker.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
So you know, you got to play good all around defense.

Speaker 20 (40:53):
He had to just get fixated with one thing and
and you know feel like you did a good job,
you know, protecting the three point line. But then they
make a bunch of layups and free throws. You know
that that that's that's also a recipe for a tough
night on that.

Speaker 22 (41:07):
I mean, they're shooting about sixty three percent on two pointers.
So have you noticed that the teams if they over
guard that, they'll just for.

Speaker 20 (41:14):
Sure, I mean, I think in general in basketball that happens,
you know. Yeah, I mean, if if you're so committed
to taking away the three, and you're in your space
and the floor with the shooters, you know, obviously you
know that there's not a lot of bodies left.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
To help in the paint.

Speaker 20 (41:28):
So you know, you got you got to kind of
pick your poison with some of this stuff. And and
uh and you know, and it always starts with the
best job in any defense. The better job you can
do on the ball, you know, the better chance you
have to be successful.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
So you want to do a good job on the ball.

Speaker 20 (41:41):
You want to have great discipline, and that's not easy
because they put you in a lot of tough situations.
The biggest especially that you have to share your the
opposite not shooting a lot of freeasons.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
In your center.

Speaker 20 (41:51):
Yeah, you know, I mean, it's been interesting how it's
played out, you know, you know, I mean, it hasn't
been I mean I'm not going to act like I
you know, I've told our guys not to shoot threes
because that's not the case.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
It's just kind of the decisions they're making.

Speaker 20 (42:04):
And you know, if you have guys that are, you know,
maybe turning down threes to get to other stuff and
it's working out, you know, I think you're comfortable doing that. Obviously,
we're comfortable playing in the paint, playing through our bigs.
You know, it's been a successful recipe for us, and
we got a conviction with it, so you know, and
you know, I mean, hey, we're working on shooting every day.

(42:25):
I don't think we're a bad shooting team. We just
at this point haven't been a high volume three point
shooting team.

Speaker 19 (42:30):
When you look at the confidence that he Bond is
displaying out there, is that's simply because he comes from
a European club situation where he's playing a lot of
other guys.

Speaker 20 (42:39):
Yeah, I mean, for sure, I mean you could, you
could probably you know, chalk some of it up to that.
But the other thing is he's just a confident person.
You know, he's a confident person and he and he's
a hard worker and he and he prepares well, so
you know, I mean, I think, you know, his confidence
is probably something he's carried with him his a tire
basketball career, and and so know, there's not too many

(43:01):
stages where I think he feels overwhelmed, you know, and
he's not surprised by too many things. So obviously, you know,
we're We're very happy with where he's at, and I'm
excited to see him continue to take the next steps.

Speaker 22 (43:12):
He's already played against Alabama once before. But is there
anything to having Jaden go against a former team and
maybe in that environment that he had previously played in.

Speaker 20 (43:22):
But I don't think so, you know, you know, I mean, obviously,
all let JB speak for himself, you know, when he
gets the opportunity. But but but Jade's not a vindictive person.
I don't think his experience at Alabama, you know, the
transfer was because it you know, he feels slighted in
any way, shape or form, and and you know, he
he made a decision to transferred Arizona, and I think

(43:43):
at that point there's no looking back, and that's how
he approaches it. So, I mean, obviously he has some
ties there, and you know, people will probably try to
make it a story when I when, I really honestly
don't think it's much of a story on either side.

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Player.

Speaker 22 (43:56):
Is he now compared to the guy you saw when recruit?

Speaker 20 (44:01):
Well, he's he's you know, he's obviously gotten more polished
and that just comes with, you know, with time. And
you know, I don't I'm not gonna you know, give
ourselves any any any credit above and beyond.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
I think JB gets all the credit. I mean, he's
he's hung with it.

Speaker 20 (44:15):
He's he's developed some really you know a lot of
certainty in his game where he can go out there
and he can play and execute with confidence.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
So Jaden gets a lot of credit.

Speaker 20 (44:24):
I mean, he's obviously a really good player and he's
put in a lot of work to become that player.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
He's played a lot of great point guards this season,
arriving last night, he was another one Saturday.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Just his ability to kind of rise to the occasion.
Which point guard are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (44:39):
Our JB?

Speaker 20 (44:40):
Okay, there's yeah, I mean, you know, I mean Jaden obviously,
I mean I don't I don't think, you know, I
mean I don't think his pulse changes, you know, and
then you know, when when when when it's a perceived
big time matchup or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
I think he just goes out and plays, and you.

Speaker 20 (44:55):
Know, he kind of has that ice in his veins
type approach, and you know, I mean, I don't know
if it's gonna work every day, but but but obviously
it's been really successful so far this season. And and
I don't want to put the pressure on Jadeen to
save the day for us every game, you know, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
I don't think that's fair to any player.

Speaker 20 (45:12):
So yeah, he just obviously he's he's a guy that's
not afraid of big moments in big games, and he's
performed really well on those.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Let's let's go back real quick. We're gonna hit about
four five minutes before we have to go becauseiness early out.
How many international players did you have at your old place?

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Did you have some old place Oregon State? Oh yeah,
let's see ruined shafton hour. You know, we ended up
being an All League player at Oregon State, but he
was from the Netherlands.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Well, you've had a few, so this would be my question.
Did you have to coach him different? More or less?
My guess is less, given that they're really good fundamentally.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Well, you know, it depends.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
I still I think it still depends on where the
kid comes from, and you know, and and our ability
to assimilate. You know, when we came when we had
robertas yef Tokus here at Arizona, Roberta's never really acclimated
to to to a university, to a college environment. And
he was good, he was very good, but he was
just he didn't he didn't connect. And so some of

(46:19):
that that initial thing is just your own, you know,
your own demons that you face. I'm not you know,
I don't feel like I connect with people here, so
then therefore you're not as motivated.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
So I think that's your biggest concern is.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
We got to call. Let's take this call real quick. Hello,
you're on the air nine in the ball who's this hey?

Speaker 21 (46:36):
Jake or Rick? Hey, how are you sir?

Speaker 5 (46:39):
This is Steve Rick.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Oh, Steve j Okay?

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 21 (46:47):
Listen.

Speaker 23 (46:48):
I've commented several times that I think, for me, this
is probably the best top ten teams in college basketball
that I've seen and.

Speaker 21 (47:00):
Well over thirty five years. What do you think, Jay Uh?

Speaker 6 (47:06):
Well, in all honesty about in all honesty.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
It in you know, second week of December. I haven't.
I haven't seen everybody.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
Yeah, you know, it's I'm you know, you've seen what
happened with using the portal for football. You know, Vanderbilt
was in an entity, you know, Indiana, Indiana. But you
know that you can pay the players. You know your
donors are like, okay, so it's legal, So I'm not.
I don't have a guilty conscience.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
I pay.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
So basketball, now you're starting to see things different, like
I watch, I watch in what world does does Nebraska
beat Wisconsin by thirty?

Speaker 4 (47:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (47:47):
You know, and so it's like, quote, you know, well
what's going on in Nebraska?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
So good coach to you know, good coach.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
So at this particular point, what I what I'm seeing, Rick,
is that more and more teams have high quality have
high quality players. And it's it's to your point. And
you may have seen more of the games than I have,
but I mean it's there's a lot of balance, you know,

(48:15):
among these big teams.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
But like Michigan just beats everybody by thirty. It's to
your point.

Speaker 10 (48:20):
Rick.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Let me say this.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
The season starts earlier now, if you remember, it really
kind of started and nowI late late November, where now
the teams are not afraid to play each other in
early November and continue that because there have been some
fantastic games in the past, those games never happened.

Speaker 21 (48:38):
Well, and I think what we're seeing, and you mentioned Michigan.
I'm they've been on a lot and I'll tell you
that is one impressive team. Their defense is just relentless,
and they're quick. They're not just fast, but they're quick.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Very tall also, yeah, very tall.

Speaker 21 (48:57):
Yeah, they got what three or four big guys over
six ten.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Amazing.

Speaker 21 (49:03):
But I'll let you go.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Thank you, Rick, Thank you, Rick. We've got a minute left,
so no, okay, cool. So we're talking about international. We're
talking a little bit more about that because he talked
about Jeff Tokos, uh Rodenovich was here, some loots kind
of hit on those twoes and obviously Tommy's knocked out
of the park with his guys.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
So well, I mean the value is there because again,
as I've said on an earlier show, that the best
players in Europe are in foreign countries, are coached.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
By the best coaches.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
Yeah, you know, because they're they're they're running through the
national federation. So you're you're paying people to get the
best coaches, and so those kids come over here, they
can play.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
They're talented. Yeah, okay, thank you Jay again. Maybe see
you next week, next Thursday. Thank you Ray. We got
to go talk to you guys tomorrow