Hour 2- December 2, Barrett Baker

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey, welcome back to I'm the back here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver. I
think we're gonna get a call here pretty soon from
mister Kivi and eman solve the world's problems.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's gonna help us with these kids, these young kids
who are just picking up and taking off. They get
their big I'm just their bag of money and go
somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm just curious about that because it's not crazy. It
just didn't happen overnight. Right.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's like how I can say this. You have a kid,
I have a kid. He's not doing well in school,
gets in trouble, blah blah blah. Who do they blame
the teacher? Don't see that part? Yeah, Well, like my
son's a good kid, Well not exactly, Mildred, he's a
trouble baker. Are you looking at his homework? I mean right, right, right?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Part of being a parent, I think, yeah, right, are
somebody looking at it?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm not sure what going with this, but you know,
today's world, the transfers and all that just a problem
and the money.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Like you said, yeah, I mean, it's going to be
fun or maybe not fun, but just interesting to see
what happens with the roster because last year it turned
over basically and it worked out quite well, and they
don't need to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't think this time around. It obviously tomorrow's signing day,
you know, Tomorrow' suning day. I'm wondering. One of the
things that rich Rod didn't do when he failed miserably,
I think, is when they did really well in two fourteen,
when they when they won himself, they didn't capitalize on
the success. I was going to ask lev this, and
I'll maybe ask him another time or maybe even tomorrow

(01:38):
somebody else. If they can capitalize on the success of this,
do people want to come and play well?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean, Michael mentioned that the recruiting class looks pretty good.
They used to go on paper at this point, so
you know, maybe that's going to change. But that's kind
of been a problem with Arizona over the years. They
usually don't have great back to back to back seasons.
There might be two in a row. But even Dick
to me, in those years, he'd have the he'd have
the big year and then then they'd open the season
to Penn State and get blown out in the first game.

(02:05):
It was kind of a weird, you know, and they
barely made a Bowl game, I think in that second
that next year in ninety nine, and then he was
gone in two thousand. I mean it was fast and
same with Mike Stoops. He kind of had a good
little run and didn't capitalize on it. They kind of
could not win a game in his final year and
off he goes. So, yeah, you got to try to
get some consistency. You think about, you know, the great

(02:27):
coaches of our time, the Sabans and people like that
who managed to do it forever.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, and they and that's not building and that's not
by accident. These goods are These dudes are good before reason, right, No,
they know how to they know how to figure to
do it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
And then you know some coaches do and you know,
the programs are there's so much fluctuation nowadays again with
the money and the transfer portal and the nil and
the opportunities, like all of a sudden, wire kids going
to Texas Tech well because they got somebody's giving them,
you know, hundreds of millions of dollars a year, whatever
you know, to keep that program alive.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Right, football softball, we've seen in Oregon.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I mean we've watched Oregon when they when we were
all in the Pac twelve. Something's going on in Oregon
because you know a lot of all of a sudden,
Oregon football is good.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
But we know why.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Basically, I would think even though maybe it wasn't as
public as it should have been. But when you have
someone like a Phil Knight, who can you know do
that for your team? Yeah, helps get those nice buildings
and nice uniforms and whatever.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
You have.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
A call is just mister Kevin Lehman.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, it's your servants psychologist.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I need help you take Blue Cross, Blue Shield
because I need your help.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, oh great, great, great?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh, I don't I kind of talked to you about
the question we're talking about the when did it switch
from the kids kind of being in control of the
family or if they are, and teams where you know,
if you don't like the coach, guess what I'm an
exit stays left.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Well, obviously it's ascended at a great rate of speed
in the last couple of years, but if you look
back historically, this started a long time ago, where we
just centered on children. You got kids and families that
are sure in the yardstick, that are literally calling the
shots in the family. And parents today want to be

(04:21):
their children's best friends. They don't understand that kids need vitamin.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
E, which is encouragement, but they also need vitamin N
which is no yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
And today in sports, you've got football players that are
making double easily what their assistant coaches are making. And
so college athletes today feel a sense of entitlement. And
parents today, they use the clinical term, are nuts. They
do the kids homework for them, They snope all the

(04:52):
roads of life. Form a couple of years ago, we
had all these parents who were paying five hundred thousand
to a million dollars to get their kids into prestigious schools.
So the parents today are the ones that really need
some teaching before they can put on the masks, so
to speak, on the airplane and help the little kid
that's next to them. In this case, they're grown nineteen

(05:14):
year old or twenty year old. So these young kids.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Are listening to a lot of different voices, and a
lot of those people.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
That are advising kids would be best just to keep
their mouth shut or at least give different advice on
what they're giving.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
How would you handle that if little Johnny, little Johnny's
going to make a half a mill and he's kind
of like your bread and butter now, and you send
them through football all your life, or baseball or whatever
the sport is.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, well it's you know, it gets back to do
you know who you are? I always ask parents are
you raising your kids in a home or hotel? And
the honest answer is, for most Americans and Canadians as
well as we wear kids and hotels, what does that mean?
It means we give them room servius, food service, and.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Little is expected of them.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
Now, all of a sudden, little junior is bringing home
seven hundred thousand dollars a year and the parents are,
you know, just getting by. You can see how parents
get psyched into how wonderful their kid is. And we
all know the stories of kids who've been giving a
lot of money athletically and they mishandle.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
It, they blow it.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
You know, they go buy the big fancy cars the
first thing they do. You have stories of other people
who are pros who saved their salaries and lived off
their endorsements.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Those are the smart ones grunk?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, No, I mean, like really in the last I
don't know, five years, just in college athletics, you know,
the transfer portal, being immediately eligible, you don't have to
sit out a year like you used to, the nil
money obviously, the collective money, and just being on TV
all the time. I mean, there's a lot of incentive
to pick up and go. If you can get these
things all together. Yeah, you know that's what's happening. It

(06:57):
seems like, yeah, well, let me say this.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Steve knows this.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
I go to football practice a lot. Early in the spring.
I was telling the guys that I have breakfast with
in the morning. I said, this Arizona team is going
to be very, very good, and ball practice I sensed
it even more. Brennan has made some tough choices. He

(07:24):
had to cut some coaches that he was emotionally very
close to. He made some great decisions in bringing in leadership.
And I don't know if you've been listening to him lately,
but he's saying, you know, one of the reasons why
we were successful is.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
We want kids who want to be at Arizona.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
So I would ask the question, as a wildcat, why
not us, and I think he can build on what.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
We've got, and if he can keep.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Those offensive and defensive coordinators this year, that'll be a
great step forward. And maybe we lose one or two
of them the following year, but if that happens, I
think the foundation is to who turned the track in
a little different direction where it was noted that you know,
we have a couple of years in Arizona and then

(08:07):
the next year it's down and back and forth.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, that's true of our history.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
But I think with the AD that we've got, I'm
telling you that woman knows what the heck she's doing,
and her yes is yes and her no is no.
And I've written books on leadership. In fact, when I
met her is this sort of a funny personal thing.
My friend Edmund Marquez was introducing me to the ad

(08:33):
and he was saying, Oh, this is doctor Lehman. He's
this he's been on open all that stuff. And you
could tell she could care less to you. And he
said and he said, he's a New York Times bestselling author.
And she said, oh. Her ears perked up. She said, well,
what have you written? I said, well, I've read a
lot of books on.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Parenthood and marriage, sex and birth order.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
And well, I've got a couple of books on leadership
you might like. And she said, what did you write leadership?
I said, The Way the Shepherd. I'm not kidding. Her
head went back eight inches and she said, you.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Wrote the Way the Shepherd this year?

Speaker 6 (09:06):
This year, she said, I have purchased at least forty
copies of that book and given them to friends.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
That is the best book.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
And so h being a leader, And we've got a
good leader here in Arizona. I want people, those people
who stayed home from the games, get your tickets next year.
This this team is going to rock and roll. If
I'm an opposing coach, I wouldn't want to play Arizona
in a bowl game this year.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
So I don't care. Who are So.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Let me ask you one so, let me ask you.
So you saw this? I asked, I asked everybody this week,
maybe even last week, when did they see the signs
of it happening? Well, the change? You saw it in
the spring? You saw it, win, I saw it in
the spring.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
The kids.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
The kids have bought in, they really have, and they
practice hard.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
You can see it.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I mean, I've been around.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Those sidelines, Steve. As you know for a long time.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
This team has a different chemistry.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
They really love each other. Uh.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
I can't wait to talk to Dalton Johnson because my
guess is he may not even be drafted, believe it
or not. As good as he is, he may not
be drafted. He might sign it after but I'll bet
anybody anything he's on a fifty three man roster. I
just hope it's with my beloved Buffalo Bills because we could.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
He was a kid like him.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, thanks Doc. You're gonna come in
one of these days again.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Hey, anytime I'm around.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Okay, cool, Yeah, Buffalo is not the place to be
right now, smart man.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
No, but you've got the Baker guy coming in.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
He's a good one, right right, Thanks, thanks Doc.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
All right, take care of.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, thanks Kim Leeving. I think whatever he said is accurate.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, he's he's kind of a he's a good guy
to talk to you about that because he's got the
sports background right in the psychology background and just you know,
he's done all this.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, doctor, if you have what do you remember the
book title Leadership Wait of the Shepherd, Wait of the Shepherd. Okay,
so if that's not it, send me a text. I
might have to go pick up that book. Got a
bookmins pick it up. Hey, Gabe, I saw you calling
in Gabe, Gabe, call us back if you'd like to
get on the air. We have about five minutes. I sorry,
he couldn't pick it up because I was on with

(11:14):
the doc so five two four one forty, so I
couldn't pick it up at the same time. But you know,
it's interesting that he saw this coming back in the day.
I still think that Brennan not someone's laying down the law,
but making some stiff changes or stern statements helped. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, I mean the fact that he kept talking about
the players that wanted to be here, that came back
and stayed, and you know, that was kind of his
explanation for how things evolved, was these are the guys
that wanted to be here. Yeah, the ones that stayed
and the ones that we were able to get to
come here.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
And that was a great combination.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And all those things kind of combined with really relatively
a few major injuries, the schedule, the way laid out.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It just kind of worked out quite well. Yeah, no,
it did. And good for them. I mean again, the
fan base probably missed out, but that's two song. They'll
jump on that bandway oh year.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, that bench of season ticket sales will be you know,
five to ten thousand more, right, and we'll see how
the season goes. From what I saw, the schedule doesn't
look all that attractive.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Again. I think some of the non conference games West
Virginia coming there, or they're going.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Now, but I'm in a non conference that early, those
first three or sometimes.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's kind of like the basketball program, right, you know,
the tough schedule, but nothing at home.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right, and you know how many people want to go
sit out there when it's one hundred and five in September.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Anyway, Yeah, I apologize to everybody I said. Yeah, no,
I was there for eighty five and it was difficult
because you're just under that sun. Yeah, under that sun.
Well I don't play night games, I'm sure, but still
still no, No, it's it's uh, you know what, all
I know, I've been here all this time.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
And gradually like again as a sports fan now and
not so much being neutral. It's getting to learn this
conference and going, oh wow, Texas Tech is coming. That's
gonna be a big game, or there's gonna be this
game that's gonna be a blowout. I mean, we knew
that all the time in the old Big in the
old Pack twelve days. So it's gonna take a while
for fans to.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Get used to that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, and we'll see. I mean, no guarantee, no guarantee
that the good things are gonna happen, but there's a
good chance. Issue and how they fell off from last
year's one injury, two injuries. Whatever it happens.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
You lose your quarterback and your best running back and
your best receiver, it's trouble. And Arizona managed to avoid
that this year. And they had a lot of depth,
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Else I was gonna ask, I don't love but he would,
the answer wouldn't be butterfight. How many good players do
you need on a football team to really be good? Oh,
I don't know. There's twenty two starters. If you had
maybe six on one side, six on the other, that's twelve.
But you know, really good dudes. Arizona was good to

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be back in the day with like Ricky and those guys.
They had him and they had other people to complimentary players, right,
they didn't have a bunch of all Americans, but they
had him.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
They player is going in to the NFL though in
those years too, so this you know he was Michael
was even saying, you know, he didn't know if anybody
was going to even get drafted or you know, there
probably will be. But you know, Arizona has had a
couple of guys drafted here in the last couple of
years too themselves, some of those linemen.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, well and tamac Look at money, money doesn't always
buy the LSU had the money paid a lot of people,
they didn't win. I still think coaching matters. It does matter.
You don't believe in the guy, you're not gonna play
hard for the guy.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, I mean it'll be I'm sure you know, once
either the rankings or the bowl matchups come out, they
could I'm sure there's gonna be all kinds of like
nil rankings.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Who's paid the most for this team?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Because remember last year was like, oh, they got Ohio
State and Oregon or whatever it was, and they're both like.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Twenty million dollar nil.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
It was a forty million dollar game, right, So that's
going to be revealed here as we get closer to
those games.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Let's take a riak get ahold of mister Barrett here
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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio AB. This is I on
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Speaker 2 (19:50):
Hey, welcome back to A on the ballgarel Fox Sports
sportsun fifty I'm Steve your Dave. Now we have Bret Baker, Eric.
How you doing.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
It to be a while?

Speaker 13 (19:59):
Cat stieve?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes, yes it is God November No lose November. Let's
feel good.

Speaker 14 (20:06):
That's momentum, right, and nomentum. So we're looking good at
the program and it's been fun to see it.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yes, yes, let me take you back. Let me take
you back because somebody texted me earlier to last year. Uh,
did you have to defend Brent? Yes?

Speaker 14 (20:23):
Probably an understatement, and I mean I will readily admit
my bias because, you know, playing with coach Brennan's brother Brad,
and then following Brent's career at San Jose State, him
not getting the job initially and then getting an opportunity,
you know, after coach Fish came through. I know what
kind of.

Speaker 13 (20:43):
Family he is he comes from.

Speaker 14 (20:45):
I know what kind of coach he is. I know
what kind of coaches he worked under, and I watched
him coach and I know how he connected with the players,
and so I know, and I mean it's easy to
say I know, but I think I think if given time,
that he turns programs around because he is a culture

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guy that gets people to play at one hundred percent
all the time. And you know, his first two years
in San Jose State, I think they won a total
of three games. But what did he do the last
four years, you know, they're playing for.

Speaker 13 (21:22):
Conference championships and so when you now.

Speaker 14 (21:26):
Come to u of A and they're coming off you know,
obviously a great season with the Alamobile. Listen, it didn't
go right the first year, There's no doubt about it,
and he would admit that. But in making those tough decisions,
making changes to the coaching staff, trusting the guys behind
the scenes with the scouting department and the general manager,

(21:47):
overhauling the roster, this is coach Brennan, right, This is
the guy that is going to be a special coach
for us, and he just needed a little time to
do that.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
What qualities of Dick Tomy do you see in Brandon.

Speaker 14 (22:02):
Well, I think, and it's not fair for me to
to rain on these other guy's parades that I didn't
that that I did not play under. But I know
that you get the most out of people by believing
in them and encouraging them and making it a positive environment.
And that doesn't mean that you don't criticize. But there's
a coach at West Virginia right now. I wouldn't do

(22:26):
it well under a coach like that because I don't
you know, like you're a young man. You don't need
to be screened at on a daily basis, because what
does that.

Speaker 15 (22:36):
Do for you?

Speaker 14 (22:37):
You know, we need to you need to you need
to play under a positive environment. And again that doesn't
mean that you don't get yelled at, but you also
get hugged when you do good. And I think that
he demands a high level uh. And don't be mistaken
just because he's clapping on the sidelines and he's constantly
encouraging go to a practice, you know, look at things

(22:58):
behind the scenes. There are there is plenty of hard
coaching going on as well, and so I think that
that's what you're looking for. Coach im hard, love him harder,
I think was coach Tomy's mantra. And I think that's
what coach Brennan does and he does a great job
at that.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
So coming into this year, what did you think.

Speaker 13 (23:16):
Well, I really this isn't revisionist history.

Speaker 14 (23:19):
When Danny Gonzalez got hired, I was I liked it
a lot because what was his past. When you look
at his past as a defensive coordinator, he's been fantastic
at his stops. He was a great defensive coordinator at ASU.
The numbers back that up. Before that he was at
San Diego State, they were fantastic. Before that, he was
in New Mexico, you know, And that's he grew up

(23:40):
under Rocky Long and he knows the three three vive defense.
And I think that part of it that I.

Speaker 13 (23:48):
Didn't have as many questions on that because I.

Speaker 14 (23:50):
Really believed in what he was talking about. The past
is indicative of the future.

Speaker 13 (23:54):
His past is that of a very very good defensive coordinator.

Speaker 14 (23:58):
I think coach Dagy. You so again, coach Brennan and
coach Dagi did not have a previous relationship, so they
were taking a chance on each other here. But how
fantastic is that that it has worked out because again,
the pedigree of coach Dagi played football at a high level,
coached under successful coaches at Ole Miss at you with Leech,

(24:20):
I mean, he knows football and so now, and this
wasn't his first gig. He obviously got his ears wet
at Marshall and learned how to be a play caller.
So bringing coach Salavea, Coach Miller, coach Bringdale, like, the
additions that they made to the staff have all been
fantastic additions. And that's coach Brennan's job when you are
the CEO coach and you're not the play caller, you're

(24:44):
just getting the right people in the right spots and
you're leading them, and that's what he does a great job.
And then you trust the fact that your coordinators and
your position coaches are the guys that day in and
day out are breaking down the field and putting the
right drills into play getting the most out of their players,
and that that's the way a program can be run.
You don't have to have a coordinator that calls plays,

(25:05):
and so it's a I wouldn't say it's an older
style a way of coaching, but it's trust in the
fact that you got the right guys to run the
game day play calls and you're there to oversee it
and weigh in when necessary.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
How does a season like this, you know they're going
to have nine or ten wins changed, maybe the perception
of Arizona football for recruits and for transfers and for
others who might want to be part of the program
now that they know that there could be some success
Aarron Tusson or is it overstated?

Speaker 14 (25:37):
No?

Speaker 13 (25:37):
I don't think it is, because I think it's a
great question.

Speaker 14 (25:41):
In today's world. I mean, right now, how many people
have gone back and erased their tweets from over the
last year. How many people have gone back and deleted
their tweets from two months ago after the Houston game
when they are calling for coach Brennan's head. And that's
the part that I think is really important to realize

(26:02):
that things in today's world on the whole, right, they
change so quickly. Three hundred and sixty four days ago,
we'll just say coach Brennan was ridiculed for saying stay
with us and you're going to enjoy every minute of it.
And boy, isn't that funny now a year later to
say what a soothsayer he was? And so I think

(26:23):
that's the important part is that in social media, it
all has an impact. And do we as a fan base,
do we want it to be negative or positive? Because
when you encourage and you get positive momentum for the
program and people are talking about Arizona football and the
job that this coaching staff and the players have done

(26:44):
to flip a four and eight program to a nine
to three programs, that's amazing stuff that those are those
that's Coach of the Year material and at the end
of the day, it still does take the right players,
but now this opens up door for Geyska Crowley and
Fletcher Kelly behind the scenes to get in with some

(27:05):
of these kids that they identified that maybe last year
we wouldn't have been able to get in on them.
And so I think that there is a huge impact
with just it still takes players and now we have
the ability to maybe have that conversation with the player
that is going to potentially add to our locker room,
whereas last year they would have been going to a

(27:25):
different locker room. So you still got to find the players,
you still got to recruit the players, but it gives
us a better chance that maybe lamming some of those players,
and from there you still coach them hard and you
still got to put him in the right position. And
doesn't matter if you're a five star or two star.
When you get to the locker room and you put
that number Jersey on for the first time, you're going
to get coached up the exact same way.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
We were talking to Michael Love earlier and I kind
of posted this question. So this year, nine and three,
two years ago, same type of success with the Jed
twenty fourteen, they won the South. I think if I
can remember correctly and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
If you remember this year, not many expectations obviously two
years ago, probably not the fourteen, probably not ninety eight.

(28:12):
Were there expectations.

Speaker 13 (28:16):
Well, we really finished off the previous year on a.

Speaker 14 (28:19):
High note, knocked a issue out of the Fiesta Bowl,
you know, won our.

Speaker 13 (28:23):
Bowl game and gets New Mexico. And when we lost
an overtime to Washington.

Speaker 14 (28:27):
State on the road, which.

Speaker 13 (28:29):
We should we could have easily won, that.

Speaker 14 (28:31):
Was a galvanizing moment for the team.

Speaker 13 (28:34):
And there was just something.

Speaker 14 (28:35):
That we knew we had something special. So it sounds arrogant,
but we didn't really care what people thought about us
on the outside because on the inside we do. Between
Trunk candidate, Chris McCallister, Calvin E. Fahn, I mean I
could literally name off fifteen guys that were NFL level players,
and we had talent, but we also had chemistry and

(28:58):
we had coaching, you know, so when you put it
all together, it works out very very special. If you
look at this year's team, if I may, and I mean,
there is some NFL talents on the team, but it's
not what they had two years ago. Two years ago,
I think what we have four to six guys that
were on NFL rosters to follow in your Tanner McLaughlan,

(29:20):
j Cowing, Mike Wiley, Jordan Morgan. I mean, those are
just off the top of my head. This year, I'm
not sure if we have that prototy prototypical NFL talent
besides like trade and Stukes. But doesn't that tell you
what a great job that they've done in taking talent
that was two star, three star, four star or this

(29:42):
and that and making it a cohesive unit. And it
didn't matter that we were picked fifteenth out of sixteenth.
When the team started believing and you know, doing what
their coach to do, this was a special team. It's
been a real fun team to watch in that regard.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
And that ninety seven team, you remember this, You guys
did finish with four wins in a row to wrap
up the season, so that was some great momentum and
you know, you get on the cover of Sports Illustrated
the next next year, so you know, there's a lot
of talk about the u of A after that ninety
seven year.

Speaker 14 (30:11):
Well, and I think just again, I think we were.
We lost against Ohio State, we lost against UCLA, you know,
against Ryan Lee in ninety seven. They ended up being
the Rose Bowl team that year, but we should have
beat them.

Speaker 13 (30:25):
We had a we went for a two point conversion and.

Speaker 14 (30:27):
Had Brandon Mona Monte Brandon Monta Malayuna opened in the
end zone and OJ just didn't see him or we
would have knocked off Wazoo. But yeah, it was a
good team.

Speaker 15 (30:38):
I think that's.

Speaker 13 (30:38):
What's so fun as a fan now, transitioning.

Speaker 14 (30:40):
From a player to a fan, as each team is
so different, and you look at this year's team, you know,
new New Watt Lee, Riley Wilson to Shaun mcnight. Just
it's a challenge to build a roster one year at
a time. And so the scouting guys, Fletcher Kelly guys,
because what a phenomenal job to be able to pull
b Cannon in And this guy's been your left tackle,

(31:03):
Tristan Bounds, right tackle, Kyana de cambrat center. Three guys
that had never played.

Speaker 13 (31:08):
Together but man our offensive line.

Speaker 14 (31:11):
Under coach Oglesby this year.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Fantastic.

Speaker 14 (31:14):
Now the challenge is this, we're losing four guys off
the offensive line, and so there's no rest for the
weary correct They gotta be pounding it right now on
the recruiting trail and making sure that you identify the
exact same thing next year, and their chemistry is going
to be different, so each year. That's the hard part
as a fan, is the highs and the lows. But

(31:35):
I really do believe that we've got the staff in
place right now to make this a special program, and
now it's up to us as fans to get to
the stadium and make that an intimidate place to play.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
That's where I wanted to go with it next Bert,
I think you're a very smart dude. He Kylely of
you the scope for beer U V. Dave and the
rest of the world and talk about this. How in
the world are you going to get those fans to
the stadium, because that's the question.

Speaker 14 (32:06):
Yeah, And I try not to be too negative about this.
The U of A was very good to me, paid
for my education at the end, and so I feel
like I have to be an ambassador to the program.
I love supporting the team. I think my wife as
a president to me eighteen years ago, got a season tickets.
We've ever given them up since then, and so I

(32:27):
bleed red and blue, and it is I guess that's
the challenge that we have is in today's world when
everything is on TV, you know, you don't have to
watch it on KTTUL or correct. So it's a it's
so convenient for a seven thirty or eight o'clock start
time to just stay at home and watch it in

(32:48):
the friendly confines. But what I would say to that
is if Arizona football is important to you as a fan,
and Coach Fish talked about this, and Coach Brannan has
talked about this, it matters when the game is on
the line in the fourth quarter, in the student section
in Arizona Stadium or the sole stadium is rocking. It

(33:09):
gives you a competitive advantage. And the flip side to
that is that when you are trying to be a
top twenty five program and we are ridiculed because a
picture is taken five minutes before kickoff and it looks
like we've got fifteen thousand fans in there, then are
you really convincing that eighteen year old kid that Arizona
football is the place to be. And so it all

(33:31):
ties in together. You've got to be part of the
solution to make the recruiting the players correct and to
where they feel like Arizona football is important because we
know that basketball does have that and it's hard to
compare thirteen thousand in Mkale to fifty thousand in the stadium,
but it's the same premise. You've got to make that

(33:54):
place a very difficult place to go. It's got to
be a special thing on a Saturday to go support
Arizona football. And when we do that, that's when you
really start getting that momentum. And I hate to ever
compliment the school up north.

Speaker 13 (34:09):
But five years ago that stadium was.

Speaker 14 (34:11):
Empty, and now you look at what that stadium is
and it's a competitive place to play, and they make
it difficult for their teams.

Speaker 13 (34:18):
So or for the opponents, I should say.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
So.

Speaker 14 (34:21):
I never am going to copy anything that they do,
but but we got to get on board as a
fan base and this is the right coach to do it.
The players appreciate it when you come out to a
stadium that's packed, and.

Speaker 13 (34:31):
It gives you an advantage when it comes to wins
and losses.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Okay, so then we don't need to have that beer
now unless you're.

Speaker 13 (34:38):
Buying time and place, Steve, time and place.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
You just yes, we'll see what happens. Ten. What would
ten wins mean to the program moving forward?

Speaker 14 (34:50):
Well, you're now putting yourself in.

Speaker 13 (34:52):
An elite company when.

Speaker 14 (34:53):
It comes to the history books of Arizona football. And
that's an awesome thing. And I will say that, and
I say it proudly. I was on the best team
that we have ever had in Arizona history.

Speaker 15 (35:09):
And I love that.

Speaker 14 (35:10):
You know, it's a source of pride for me. It's
a source of pride for the one hundred teammates that
got that can tell people.

Speaker 13 (35:17):
I was part of that special group.

Speaker 14 (35:19):
You know, we had great like I said, great talent,
great chemistry, get coaches, the whole thing. These kids, now
we'll get to have that same sort of experience and
when they can tell someone, yeah, we were on I
was on the twenty twenty five Arizona football team that
you know we put we let's just say it, We're
gonna win ten games. That's an awesome thing. And because

(35:41):
you can't you can count them on two hands, correct
the number of teams that we've had that have had
that success. So you really you put yourself an elite status, and.

Speaker 13 (35:49):
I think it's just an awesome thing. And you know,
the players that have been part of a Dalton.

Speaker 14 (35:54):
And Traden, you know knowah, these kids that stuck around for.

Speaker 13 (35:58):
Six years or or stuck around when.

Speaker 14 (36:00):
They had opportunities to transfer elsewhere. It really does say
a lot about their unselfishness and and that of the team.

Speaker 13 (36:08):
To take a chance on this place. And uh, it's
you know, I'm.

Speaker 14 (36:11):
Just excited to where the road leads to see these
kids because some of these kids are going to be
playing on Sundays and we'll we'll be cheering them on
for sure.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
But you are you a local kid? Yeah, okay, thank you, Dave.
I remember I remember those years.

Speaker 13 (36:30):
I think, Yeah, Dave was on keg on nine covering
the city.

Speaker 14 (36:34):
That was a great job.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Thank you, the good old days. Thank you for bringing
that up. No, let me ask you something, because you're
you're a local dude. You've seen tons of games here
as a fan and a player. Blah blah blah. Why
not Arizona? Why not? Why not?

Speaker 5 (36:50):
What is it? Need me?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
He already asked this question earlier, But to me, it's
it is a special place in basketball, probably other sports.
With softball when it was running wild, they why can't
it not be one of those programs.

Speaker 14 (37:06):
Well, I'll take a chance on this one. But I
think in ninety eight we we.

Speaker 13 (37:11):
You know, we have the best season we ever have
and unfortunately it didn't get followed.

Speaker 15 (37:15):
Up in ninety nine.

Speaker 14 (37:16):
Yeah, right, twenty fourteen, you know, that's a heck of a.

Speaker 13 (37:20):
Team for the Fiesta Bowl.

Speaker 14 (37:22):
The next year they come kind of back down to earth.
Twenty twenty three, it's another ten win season and then
you know we've fallen hard times last year. So maybe,
and it's.

Speaker 13 (37:34):
Just a guess, but maybe it's that consistency. And that
is one thing that the programs that you talked about there,
they were consistent.

Speaker 14 (37:42):
They were perennially the top fifteen, and it was when
you when you went to a game, the expectations is
that you were going to win.

Speaker 13 (37:52):
So I think with.

Speaker 14 (37:54):
Coach Brennan, I think that we can get there, and
I think we can get to that program that we're
disappointed with eight wins, and it's going to be tough.

Speaker 13 (38:02):
I mean, listen, let's make no mistake about it.

Speaker 14 (38:05):
In today's world, with nils and the transactional nature of football,
where it's one and done and transferring and this and that.

Speaker 15 (38:11):
It's not easy.

Speaker 14 (38:13):
But if you can put together a program that dare
I say, like Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State, you know,
when you are winning eight games, nine games, ten games
and that's the expectation, then I think that people will
want to be part of it because I think now,
or especially after last year. Again, I don't want to
be going back to negativity, but we had people that

(38:34):
were celebrating on X that when we lost that they
wanted to be the first one to tell everybody that,
you know, when coach Brandan got hired, that they were
out on him and it was you know.

Speaker 15 (38:43):
Like, oh, I told you we were I told you
fan base.

Speaker 14 (38:47):
Yeah, well, now if we can flip that and we
can get an eight, A, nine, a ten win season
back to back to back, those same fans are going
to be the ones that are going to be saying
I've been on it from the beginning. I know he
was the guy to leave.

Speaker 13 (39:03):
So I think that's what we need, is just consistent.

Speaker 15 (39:05):
Winning, and if we.

Speaker 14 (39:06):
Can do that, then I do think people will jump
on board and that first year will be an asterisk
in an afterthought.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, all right, Berrett, thanks a bunch man. I always
always enjoyed. Take care, Thanks always, Snorita, take care.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Baker has been around Tuson it's entire Yeah, tire run
here and he's he really is an advocate for the team.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
That's great that he knows so much and stays so
close to And you have a lot of the x's
that them have that feel, you know, leave the Hunties obviously,
and a lot of the dudes, you know Lamont who's
doing the broadcast with Brian, all these guys, it's just
like they're kind of right there and then they're not.
They're kind of right there and then they're not. And

(39:49):
He's right. They have to build, build, build, build and
build until it's consistently eight to nine, eight, nine, ten
sometimes and then you know, be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
In his uh time with U of A and maybe
a little bit before, but I mean Dicktomy was really
kind of doing that. You know, there was very few
losing seasons, but it was never that big.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
It was a seven and four. It was the it
was the seven and four, the six and five, and
people weren't satisfied with them after a while. Eventually they
run run. Amount of time was still.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
You know, and every once in a while, but he
would pop you know, that big twelve and one season
that time. But then, like you know, as Barrett was saying,
the next year was not great, and you know it
wound up being in the end for him.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, and rich Rod it was kind of like that too.
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Speaker 2 (44:12):
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now on the phone, we have Gabe. What's up, Gabe?

Speaker 15 (44:19):
Not too much?

Speaker 13 (44:20):
How how are you guys doing, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
We're doing fine. Thanks for calling in. You must be
the happiest dude in California after last weekend.

Speaker 21 (44:27):
Yeah, yeah, sir, I was. Well, let me put it
this way, I expect it. I was hoping for Arizona
to win six games, but ninety three actually beating the
scum devils. I mean, it's kind of like a repeat
of twenty twenty three minus Jetfish not portraying us and.

Speaker 14 (44:48):
Going to Washington.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
So anyway, yeah, no, it's good. Good. What did you
think of that game?

Speaker 21 (44:56):
Well, I'm happy that Arizona one. Let me put it
that way. I couldn't stand to think that the scummies
would to win. But but a win is a win.
I wanted them to blow up. I wanted you have
a to blow up the scum devils. But Ares gonna

(45:16):
has a cup in twos on Arizona, so that's all
that matters.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So when did you think this Arizona?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
When did you think this team was going to be
better than maybe the average six and six to go
nine to three.

Speaker 21 (45:32):
Well, I kind of well, when they were starting to
stack you up win, maybe something is gonna go Maybe
it's things are going good for a change.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
So yeah, what do you think what's go ahead?

Speaker 13 (45:51):
What's important going forward?

Speaker 21 (45:53):
I think Jesuit reads Franchois means to increase pay for
Danny consult and the assistants coaches, because that's a huge priority.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Oh yeah, no, you're right. That said, we're still in
a school or covering a school. I guess they got it,
figured it out right financially. But now if you continue
to do and spend, you could go back into a hole.
But you need to keep them. What do you do?

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Keep them?

Speaker 13 (46:27):
Do whatever it costs to keep the coaches. If it
does put you on a whole well you.

Speaker 21 (46:34):
Want uh football phase of bills. So the as just a.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
By the means.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I heard a really good quote this week. I think
it was from LSU. You know they're paying three coaches now.
When somebody said like, how can you do this, either
the president or the athletic churcher said, you know what,
we can always find the money.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
So you know, I'm sure Arizona has some people in
their back pock it as well if they need to
do something. Not necessary to buy anyone out at this
point obviously, but if they need to get some raises
for the assistance or whoever the staff gave, they can
always find the money gave.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Go work over town. What was that, go work over time?

Speaker 10 (47:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (47:18):
Yeah, I have a job and I'm thinking about coming
to a football game next year.

Speaker 13 (47:23):
So one more scene.

Speaker 21 (47:26):
What are you thinking about Florida not hiring Jet Fish?
Do you think there was on a fourth sin to
stay at Washington.

Speaker 13 (47:39):
In what sense, like like make him like have a no.

Speaker 21 (47:43):
Win situation because if he leaves, if he leaves and
goes to Florida, well that kind of means he's a
he's a jumper.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Well, we already know that he is. We already know
that he's a jumper. Yeah, I know, but this is
this is what did did in the jet At least
at least for now, he's gonna have to be more
patient unless he wants some other job. Because had he
stayed here last year and this year done really well,
we can assume that he would have done very well,
then then his opportunity to get Florida would have been perfect.

(48:15):
But he jumped one year or two ahead of time,
thinking that, you know, maybe he was open, Maybe they
keep Florida for one more year the guy, but they didn't.
Doesn't make sense. He was he was prettymature in his evaluation.

Speaker 21 (48:29):
Yeah, Jetfish was high on his supply. He thought that. Yeah,
he thought, well, yeah, he was high on his supply,
and he thought maybe Billy Napier wred gift fire and
then he's gonna and then Jeffish.

Speaker 13 (48:45):
Would like get higher this season.

Speaker 21 (48:47):
But Boll not not to Kate and what was Jeffish's
reckers six and three or something like that.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
What did he finish? Yeah, and a good question. I
don't know what what it was. We'll check that out.
But you know, then U c l A Opened with closed,
Florida open and closed. There's no other job that he
would take, obviously, so he'll be there at least.

Speaker 21 (49:09):
Well, well, here's well, here's Warn Moore saying, well, I
mean I heard, I'm hearing rumors that Penn State is
looking at Kaitlyn de Boor to go to go to
alum to go to Penn State.

Speaker 13 (49:23):
Ten stay Is.

Speaker 21 (49:24):
There's like some rumor that ten stay Is is trying
to get Kaitlin de Boor to to to Penn State.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I would be shocked.

Speaker 21 (49:35):
I don't know if that.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked. You wouldn't do that.
I don't think you'd do that.

Speaker 21 (49:40):
Well, here's the thing. Alabama fans are like Ferroll, like
they almost have they almost have rabies. But I mean, okay, Gabe,
Alabama fans doing Toray losing. That's my point.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, that's that's a better point. Yes, Yes, Penn State,
all these all these top not schools don't tolerate and losing.
They'll just fire you and get into the next guy.
So hey, we got to go, Gabe. Thanks for calling,
then thanks for listening.

Speaker 21 (50:06):
Anytime there's down Arizona, go cap.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
He's got an eighteen and six overall record in Alabama,
so he's not really losing that much.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
So you know, nine and whatever, nine and two.

Speaker 14 (50:17):
But but.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Next year, yeah, no, tell me clarified for us on
the jet record eight and four. Probably like in the
middle of the Big ten one, let's call Hello, you're
on the air nine on the ball.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Who's this Hey, buddy, it's Rick. Are you Rick?

Speaker 13 (50:34):
Good?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Good? We got about three minutes.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Yeah, just real quick.

Speaker 15 (50:39):
One thing that when your guests was gone earlier. Arizona
has never been considered a football school until we had
a big name like Stoops come in here and everybody
thought Arizona could be a football school number one or two.

(51:00):
We've always been a school that had a decent football program,
but it was never whether it was the Whack the
Pack or now in the Big twelve.

Speaker 13 (51:10):
It just doesn't have that same attachment as the Texas.

Speaker 15 (51:16):
Schools, the SEC the Big Ten, and doesn't make it
right it's a perception just.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
What it is.

Speaker 15 (51:24):
Yeah, but here's something I think it's really when they
first hired the current coach, I think people saw him
more as a cheerleader and not as a coach. And
I think this year he proved he knows football and
more important, I think he is a loyal Arizona right,

(51:48):
And I think the people next year will buy into
that because they see a certain loyalty and he does
know football. And I think he really earned the respect
of a lot of people this year. And I just
hope we don't overdo it and try to have unreasonable expectations.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah. Well, let me say this, It takes because you've
been here a long time. The one guy that kind
of set the standards was Loot. He could have left,
he didn't established there was one as to be a
football basketball program for a long time, right because he stayed.
And this is a jumping point. I'm not speaking out
of tournay am I not right this There was almost
a jumping point. But if you decide to stay, you
could turn it into whatever you want to turn it into.

(52:33):
Brennan's not that guy too. If he succeeds, I don't
know if he would jump. Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 13 (52:39):
I don't know if he would.

Speaker 15 (52:40):
I don't think he left Gucsan and I think he
genuinely feels a passion for it. And here's the other
thing is Larry Smith. I think he had turned Arizona
sort of into a football school and then he's gone.
And Dick told me when he came here from Hawaii,
a lot of people didn't have any idea who could
killed me. He was He proved he knows football, and

(53:04):
they people began to rally around him, and then all
of a sudden they fire him. What's wrong?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Which is right? Well, just I thought about a minute.
So I was at some place this morning and they said, God,
he's done a great job of coaching. He says, well,
we hope he doesn't. Don't doesn't leave?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
All right?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Right, So just six weeks ago they're ready to get
rid of him. Now they don't want him to jump.
You know now there do'sn't really know how to jump.
But you know what I'm saying. It happened that quickly.

Speaker 15 (53:30):
But I think but he showed me as much as
anything this year is that he has a real passion
for University of Arizona.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, And that's what you need, and that's what you need. Okay, Rick, Thanks,
go ahead, we'll carry it forward.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Thanks guys, thank you.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Thanks for the calling. We gotta go. Thanks everybody for Tuesday.
Thank you, Dave. Sure, we'll talk to everybody tomorrow