Hour 2- November 18, Keith Rubio

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Streaming live on the iHeartRadio WAB. This is I on
the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, welcome back to iron the Ball. Here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Dave Silver. And
in house we have mister Keith and Rubio, coach of
the South Point volleyball team State Champions, State Champions. How
you doing Keith? Are you Steve fine? Two years in
you get a title? What's the secret?

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Good talent besides sure and rolling the dice a lot
of yazi.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, So how was it for you?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Did you have a pretty good regular season and you
just rolled through?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You know?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
So at the beginning of the year, we had one
of my starting outside hitters who transferred, Armonica to Ironwood
and she is a commit to Florida State and they
wanted her graduate early and South Point doesn't allow that,
and so she transferred to Ironwood and she was my
starting outside hitter last year and we lost in semi finals.

(01:22):
And so the poetic justice is they lost to Ala
Queen Creek in the semis and that's the team we
beat in the finals. So yeah, we were thirty two
and eight I think we won the region. We actually
split with Ironwood, and then we're number one in the
region and number one overall for the state.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
So we hosted the entire tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Okay, okay. Now backed off Queen Creek in the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes, played them early, played them second match of the
year and beat them in three. But they had three
transfers who were ineligible to play at the time, and
they played the finals.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, okay, you've been your second year, right, So just
for the listeners, give me some background. Your mister Dave
Rubio's a brother.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Dave's older brother by thirteen months, so irish twins. Okay,
I coached. Volunteer coaching is my second career. I started late.
I was a volunteer assistant at USC when I was
going to school at Kelsey and Orthridge. I was there
for two years, and once I graduated, I was an
assistant coach at Boise State University for four seasons, an

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associate head at University of Oregon the Ducks for a
couple of years, head coach at Quincy University, a little
Division two school in Illinois, and then I was in
New Mexico State for ten years.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Again, give me those time frames New Mexico State.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
One twenty eleven to twenty.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
One twenty one.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Okay, so I was there ahead of you, but USC
has a lot of pipeline in New Mexico State. I
think they had a head coach there in the late eighties,
an associate head coach that became a head coach at
New Mexico State.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I don't know if you knew that or not. I
didn't know that. Yeah they did.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I don't know if they did well, because obviously you
moved in later. But it's tough to coach in places
like that because you have to do really really well
to get picked up somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
You do you do, and.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Because it's a college town, as you know last years,
but it's a difficult place to recruit too, Yes, very much.
So close to El Paso, the airport's there, but there's
not much to do, and so we had some SoCal kids.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
I was there for ten years.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I was the recruiting coordinator, sure, and so we always
got the second tier kids that were big and athletic
and just taught them how to play right.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I call it Tucson nineteen seventy two, Yeah, kind of similar.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Did you go into Texas. Did you go into southern California?
Where did you get everywhere? Really, we got kids from Soco.
We had a couple of foreign kids, Canadians. We got
a couple of Canadians.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
And we were really good.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
It's interesting how international NCAA volleyball is when you look
at the rosters. Really, I mean it's half the roster
are coming from you know, Europe, and I mean they're
really coming from all over the world to.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Play vrball here.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And the unique thing about getting international kids is that,
you know, everywhere but the United States, the rules are different.
They follow international rules. So there only allowed six substitutions
in the United States.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
You have fifteen or twelve at least.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, so the international kids that come up learn how
to play every position and they play all the way around.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
How I'm not sure this is true, but I'll ask
you this way. How refreshing was it to go from
college a different level and all that to coach high
school level.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Or the right? Is that the right word?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, I think in most high schools it would be
very different. I'm in a unique situation because the majority
of my kids at cell point all play at high
level club and so there, and I was. It was
unique because I had so many experienced kids and big
kids that were that had been trained in how to play.
So I didn't coach them that dissimilar to how I

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coach a collegie.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh okay, I'm sure they appreciated it too.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
You'd have to ask about on different days you'd have
different reactions.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
But if at the end of the day you have
kids who are disciplined and good, you want to be
disciplined and good as you get better in theory, correct, yes,
so did you you get a lot of that?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I think again, we were always South Points been the
big dog in the in the you know, little pond
that world, and so we've always had the talent and
in our region, I mean, Mike Mountain and Ironwood are
very good. But outside of that, it wasn't really super competitive.
So my kids weren't always super motivated to get better

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because they didn't face that kind of competition day in
and day out.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Right, is the path to success for these players to
get a really good club team. I mean, are there
enough around here in Tucson enough to get just to
keep them competitive and you know, their skills at a
high level.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yes, yes, there's enough and we we you know, we
compete in Phoenix. The Phoenix kids are a different breed
because you have all the professional professional athletes and siblings
in the offspring.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Sure, that's kind of it's that's kind of like my
sons in soccer myself, they played here. They get the
best group of kids here, played played in the Phoenix
leagues and had had to compete against the best up
there and that's how you got good.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yes, you had no choice but to get good.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, so you you brought up the woman playing for
you were used to that have a chance or is
going to Florida State? How often does that happen at
that level?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
You know what? Because that's that's elige level, isn't it is?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
So?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
It is it once silly? Or is it a few
every you know?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I think in Phoenix is it's it's pretty popular because
there's you know, there's that there's a bigger popular and
there's bigger kids, more athletic and then the level of playing.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
But it does two sons, what is it?

Speaker 5 (07:01):
And Dusty two signed? It happens one of my kids,
Kate Mobley is committed to which to state Florida States
a Power five. Yeah, and and I you know now
the Power fives are offering eighteen scholarships and so there's chances. Yes, yeah, yeah,
she'll do well. She's a very good player.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
We just had Matt Meal back on his daughter played
plays or is still playing for you?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Or she done? My starting outside hittering?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Okay, okay, yeah, it's when I had him on the show,
I said, do you know how to get.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
A hold of key? Because I didn't know how?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
And so two dudes, I asked, Matt and Andy Morales
and rather than came within minutes of each other sending
me your number, and I said, Keith Rupy, I said,
does date have a son coaching something? Honestly I thought
that because Dave and I talked about this, and what
did you think?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
I didn't know? I mean, I know, I know David
has sons.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But I didn't know who he had a brother, his
sons and daughters playing in southern California and community college.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, okay, very well, see what would make sense that
the beginning? Are you gonna lean on him at all
for any coaching advice or how's that? How's that relationship work? David?

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Dave, Dave and I Yeah. I mean Davis has forgotten
more viable than I'll ever know.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Were you competitive? Were you competitive growing up?

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
You had to be.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know where we play the age.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean we're thirteen months apart, the same friends and
and the sibling rivalry, and guys are always competitive.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
He always, I shouldn't say always.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Recently he had him and your mom dancing, you know,
dancing dad blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
So you that guy too.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't know Dan, okay with my mom. Okay, okay.
You know he's one of the good guys. And you
you called them on to night can I think it
was when you came in or something. And he is
right one of the smart guys. And I'll tell you
why because we've had him at a time or two
and we tease him and the Kendreas of the world
that says they got out.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Of coaching at the right time. Yeah, they're happier now.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, you know, ironically, because I retired from New Mexico
State in the COVID y'aring twenty one and so I've
been there ten years and the university was offering early
retirement for people that were eligible.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, and I was just ready to get out.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I started my training business and so I had done
private lessons and group lessons and then I started my club.
But it was just it was time to get out,
especially with COVID and then Dave I think retired a
couple of years later.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah. Right, So what do you do as a high
school volleyball coach once the season ends? What is one
of the next I don't know, six eight months, like
for you.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Club club is starting?

Speaker 4 (09:39):
You start club? Is it with South Point or who know? Local?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
There's a couple of local clubs in Arizona. Is the
one that I coached. The other one is owned by
Bill Lang, the coach at Irenwood, and that's Club Cactus, right,
and then there's I think a Sidewinders is another club.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
So enough of those clubs to have pretty good petition.
Do you play each other or you go Phoenix.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
We've got a Phoenix. We do play each other, but
typically down in Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
The region is do you guys compete to get better
and then go up or no?

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Do you get players from all different high schools? I mean,
it's just not going to be a sell Point team.
It's going to be a mixture, correct, Correct?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
But you know what happens is that it so club
Cactus is they practice down there a sporting chants, so
you get all the Oral Valley kids because of the proximity.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And right now at Zona we're practicing, we've been practicing
PALAVERTI recently just signed and got a lease for a
facility which is located down by the airport, which will
make it a little bit better that Zona. We we'll
be going there in January. But typically most parents and
because of the proximity, would rather play a Cactus if

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they live in Oral Valley because of the drive, right,
and what.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Age do you start getting the kids into the club situations?
This year?

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think it's for Zona. It's going to have a
tens team, so ten year olds.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So let me say this, Dave, I'm sure your son's
played right, and they played played soccer. My son's played soccer, yeah, fairly,
very pretty good. But I've always said this, I'm just
an observer as a parent. I'm not one of those
you know, helicopters. The worst thing that happened to kids
are parents. And I'm sure you maybe don't want to
tell a story or but would you agree, you know, exactly.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Your smile tells me everything.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
I think.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think it goes hand in hand with organized sports,
club sports, any sport. I think because of the fact
that parents are paying so much money, they're expecting certain
things in return for that, and they get very competitive,
and I think that I think there's a big imbalance

(11:53):
right now with parents having their own life and they're
rather than living by curiously to their kids.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
You know, there used.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
To be like when I was, when I grew up
and played a sport, I rode my bike down to
the park and my parents didn't take me sure, no
idea what I was doing, and they they would come
to a game. Yeah, and if there was ever an
issue with me complaining about a coach, my dad would say,
shut up and put.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
We've all been there. We all been there. And that's
a different time.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
These days that I mean, I can't tell you all
my times I've had parents calling, texting, winning meetings and.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, sure you see that at school as well, right,
you know, teachers and blah blah blah. What about the
nil stuff? Now you have little Johnny and little Susie. Uh,
you could make us some money, yeah, and yourself some
money obviously, and I'm.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Sure the parents are thinking about that. They see their
fourteen year old, you know, prodigy, prodigy being signed out
here in high school.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Kids, well, no, the could Yeah, I think there's traces
of it. But you know what I'm saying for future potential.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, you know, right when I got out, I mean
that was they were already getting costume at tennis from universities.
And then the NIL came into play, and then the
n C double A caving into all of the you know,
the landscape of allowing kids to transfer every year and
be eligible to play, and so it's just an open market.

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And whoever had the most money, right, you know, open
up your wallet and pay for your players.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the stuff we've read that co
O Pete was getting spent I own money when he was.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
We did high school. We did, remember, we did the list,
there was a list. He was and not little money,
a lot of money. But you know he's different, right,
They all come differently, And the sport you're teaching or
coaching is not high up on the food chain, you know,
the track and volleyball and all the other ones are
kind of.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like is probably the number one women's sports college soccers
not far behind all two.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Depending on where you're at. It depends who you are too.
Do you like that?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Do I like what?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Just the kids being the right answer? We say, yes,
I'm fair with the kids getting paid. But you know,
it's a different time now, you know what I'm saying.
Back in the day, your scholarship was worthy, you were
good enough, you.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Know, and you know and I The problem I have
with the landscape of sports these days is most of
us kind of dictated by the parents' goals. Very very
very often the parents are dictating to the kids, you're
going to go play at this time. You're playing in
this club, you have this lesson to do. You know,

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your strength training, you have speed training. So the kids
don't have much saying it right, and the parents are saying, well,
We're investing all this money for your education.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
So I'll bring this point up to you.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
So we see videos, or at least I do, know,
the little kids playing Little League baseball and they're picking
flowers and they're running around and they're not really paying
attention because you know, you want to have fun, right.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Have fun.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But at your level, whatever age, you know, you fourteen
fifteen seats or whatever it is. If if they're not
in tune, if they're not any good let's say they
don't have Is that a time to kind of sit down?
Is there a teaching moment even for the parents' say, well,
you're probably wasting your time.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, well know that at tryouts.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Oh okay, so they have to try out for the team.
You'll keep the good ones. Yeah, okay, okay, so there's
your weeding out thing. Okay, correct.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, and I'm sure they're thankful that they're not going
to be paying you x if they're not good enough.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Do you do tryouts for club? Yes, that's it, that's
what it is obviously, well for high school. For high school, sure,
so like I'll start up club goes. We'll start we're
having trials for the older kids this weekend, and then
we'll start practice right after that and then have Christmas
off for the week and it won't end until the

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Speaker 4 (16:07):
Do you do you have levels like the eighteen beteaens?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So the people, well, it's for club is broken down
by age yep, okay, and then they're like our we
have fourteens age group and we have sixteens.

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Speaker 2 (21:36):
Hey, welcome back to I on the ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve RIVERA Dave Silver with
me today. Keith Rubio, south Point volleyball coach, State champion.
So now what they sign you to a multi year contract?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (21:50):
What do they do to sell it? What do they
do to honor this championship? You think at the school? Uh,
big assembly selevation, they just said, nice chab how many
a sell Point had so many? I mean yeah, just
another in the collection of that school. Really think about
it too. It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
They've got quite a few. It's it's it's pretty impressive.
But the A d Phil it's been there.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
For I don't know ever forever.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
I think they have eighty four stay.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Tall, Yeah, good luck and catching wolf Gang, oh soccer coach.
Yeah yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And uh the late great women's volleyball soccer coach.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
We just passed away. And she was fantastic. All she
did was win.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, all she did was win, and I just lost
her name. A fantastic coach. Kelly, Kelly Peers Pears yeah,
and you guys have some great coaches over there. Obviously,
tell me about sports. Did it was Dave any good?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Dave was very good? Uh huh, good athlete.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, and you probably made him better because you probably
were pretty good too.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Because that's so I was, okay, I say that's. I
say that because and with your with.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Your girls, you get better by getting your butt kicked,
because you don't want to get your.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Butt so you get better.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
And coaching philosophy, competition breeds breed success.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, So how do you guys get better?

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Some point thee point team.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So a friend of mine said, you know, you're probably
going to have the two best teams in Tucson, your
starting team and your backup. And so my backup kids,
you know, during the season in the region, they got
to play, you know, a lot, but when we play
they're really good teams, they go a little unrecognized. And

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what I do to determine my lineup was that statistics,
and so the kids who had the best numbers for passing, surveying,
attacking were granted the starting position.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
So every week it was competitive.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
That's how you get better.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, the backups make the starters better.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, Yeah, it's good to have good competition. Is the
is there good? I mean, can you rate the talent
here in southern Arizona? And like you said, you're getting
players not necessarily from the sell Point neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
People like to come to sell Point. They make an
effort to get there. The talent's very good. I mean,
it's just competitive.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
The thing that we lack is size nationally. You know,
you go to Texas or Chicago, yeah, or you know,
even Phoenix, you get the six Street six four kids
and they're the anomaly.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
In Tucson. Yeah, I had a six Street kid, but
that she's the anomaly.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Not very many just not going to your sports or
they're just not here.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Well I haven't seen them here, and some of them
play basketball. But you go to Phoenix and you see
them all over the place.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
What made you decide?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Because you left to you Mexicool State in other places,
but you're here now to get back in the coaching
at the high school level.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
You know what I'm saying. You could probably just retired
and just said hello good bye.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
To be honest, I just wanted to continue coaching.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
That thirst of coaching.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
I just well, I knew that I was going to
be because I had retired. I knew it was gonna
have a lot of time on my hands, and I
wanted to stay involved in yeah, and coaching.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
And so.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
You played the golf.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
I do play golf.

Speaker 12 (25:14):
You because people, people who coach or compete, like to compete. Yes, right, yes,
so this is your compete, correct, Yeah, how much you
enjoy it? You must enjoy it, especially when you win,
because thirty one and eight.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I think it was you said thirty one you got
to get the thirty two in there, thirty.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Two and eight, And there's nothing better like winning.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
No, nothing like it.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
And you know, and I always say by that winning
is a byproduct of just trying to get better every day.
So my emphasis for my team and my and individually
was just big progress, just keep working at getting better.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
So what the hell happened to the eight?

Speaker 5 (25:53):
That's some really good teams.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Upper level or six A pretty much, that's and that's
what that's what Doom's stop point right there? They are
what they are, very good, very good in their level.
And then sometimes like football, you have to go play
the open division or whatever they call them. And yeah, yeah,
the same for you that's with you. Yes, yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Were your parents coaches or involved in athletics? How did
you get How did these two brothers wind up in
the same field.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Our dad was a weekend Warrior volleyball player coach, and
he's the one that introduced us to volleyball, and so
he would they were divorced, and you know, once a
month or every other month, our dad would pick us
up and immediately take us to the gym while he
was playing volleyball. And so my brother and I at
a very young age, that was our babysitter, get a ball,

(26:47):
bumping around and learn how to play volleyball.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
So did you guys play? Guys play on the beach too?
I know Dave's David's surfer still.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Played in the sand?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Is playing the sand? Yeah?

Speaker 11 (27:03):
I did?

Speaker 4 (27:03):
I ask you who's better? Who's the better?

Speaker 6 (27:04):
Action?

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Did I ask you?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
If I haven't days better? Really? Are you just being honest?

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Days better?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Okay? Did you play other things other than vital back then?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
We played whatever sports?

Speaker 10 (27:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
You're about our age. I think maybe sixty twoish sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh, because you work out every day, that's it. I
hate you already, do you? You said you train. Are
you training that the girls? Are you joined physically too?
Like you know, weightlifting and all this.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
It goes that fitness. Oh god, I hate you. Sixty seven,
you look fantastic, same age. You look horrible. I look
worse than.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Good for you, Keith, good for you. You make me
feel sad. Uh So, just what other sports? So are
the other sports? But were you good in other sports?
Baseball or what were.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
The other ones?

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Vibe always and I competed a martial arts as well.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
That was a little bit later as a kid, I
gravitated to volleyball because I was the best at that,
you know, in high school when David and I, when
I was a I think I was a sophomore, Dave
was a freshman. They started a high school boys football team. Okay,
and so that's when we actually started playing competitively.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
And you played together. I'm assuming that you grew older
on the team. Yeah, well, you guys pretty good. He
must have been pretty good as a team.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, it was a startup team and we lived in
the San Fernando Valley, excuse me, and all the beach
teams of Pallisades and Bordano Beach, all those guys were
really good, right, great forever, So we got our butt
kicked by them often.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
See I lived in northern California.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
I don't even know if we even really had We
did not have great volleyball even in those years and
the you know, mid to late seventies and stuff, volleyball
still wasn't I mean, soccer wasn't even there just yet.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
But it was some volleyball. But most of the guys
played basketball.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
A lot of the guys played Santa Cars came from
Santa Barbara.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Okay, I was north, I was northern. We were like not,
I mean, we were fifteen minutes from the beach, so
we couldn't just go to the beach like you.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Know after school. Yeah, but I don't know, it was
just not the sport just yet. It obviously has become
much bigger than it was in those years.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Sure did you have you coached the boys at all?

Speaker 5 (29:22):
One year when I was a Quincy, I coached the men?

Speaker 4 (29:25):
So how many? Just one year? And the rest is yeah,
could I ask you a dumb question?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
And you you can tread lightly And we talk about
this all the time, you parbaty know where I'm going
to go with this?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Just the big differences, there's not much difference really.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Well, I'll say this in terms of personalities and that
like the guys these days are still kind of soft mentally.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
The difference between.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
The men and the women is that you don't have
to prod the men to get competitive. They're naturally competitive
and they they would rather compete than do anything like
so women would rather be friends, and it's hard to
get them to really compete. I had a group that
really turned it on on game time. Outside of that

(30:14):
in the gym for training, they were just average to
below average because we were so talented.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right, right, And that's there's a secret to that though
sometimes and I say, coaches have to be philosophers of
whatever else they have to be because you have to
think and get in the mind of the players.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
O without question. Yeah, you need a degree in psychology.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Right, And I say that often because nowadays, specifically because
you know they're getting paid. It's it's hard for me
to imagine. I've been in this a long time, and
David said, as well, just paying the kids, and then
you know, Johnny's getting paid more than me, and you
know what about me? You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
you don't see that at the high school.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
But could you imagine. I'm sure, Davis, you just have
to deal with it. Yeah, yeah, and you.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Were glad you didn't have to do it at the
schools you were at before, even if they get paid,
because you were at smaller schools outside of the Organs
And you know.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Right, Okay, so next year you have to replace twelve
seniors twelve How you gonna do that with.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
His B team?

Speaker 13 (31:15):
That's pretty good, that's right, And I'm just rolling them.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Comes.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
I've got some good young talent coming up. They're coming in.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
The other schools must say what the heck can we
do to beat South Point?

Speaker 10 (31:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Seriously, there there's you're you've got enough talent to kind
of young.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
But it'll be it'll be fun because there's a lot
of athleticism coming in, some kids from my freshman and
JB team, but some really good eighth graders.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
With experience because if they were able to fill in
during the playoff run or other games.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Right, correct, And and the majority of them play club,
so it's just kind of teaching them the system.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I don't know, back in our day. Back in our day,
we played a lot of different sports. Like you said,
like you did. I know I did. I'm sure Dave
did too.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Now kids are playing special one sport specializing?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
How is that and do you encourage that? And what's
your philosophy with that?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Can't stand it the one sport?

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Ye standing?

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Yeah, I think they're specializing too early.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I'm a huge proponent of kids playing multiple sports, and
I think they start specializing too early and they never
get a break. And so not only are they playing
club sports, but their parents are giving them private lessons
and then strength training and speed training, and the kids

(32:35):
can't be kids right because their schedule is just filled
with sure, just one sport, and I think they get
they get burnt out. So when I was coaching college,
you know the majority of those kids when they come
to me have already been playing year round for ten years.
And then they and then the bad thing about club
is that it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Really prepare them for college.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
So when they come to college, immediately when they come,
they show up and they're in double days, so they're
practicing twice a day. They never do that in high school.
And then they have two weeks to that and then
they start school and so they're going from class from
eight in the morning until two in the afternoon and
they go to practice, but they come to the training
room for an hour, and then they have practice for

(33:19):
three hours, and then they have study hall, which is
typically six hours a week, and then they travel, right,
you know, three or four days a week, and so
they really don't know how to manage their time. And
club you know, the really good clubs will practice three
times a week and we're doing it every day and
they're going to class and they're going to study hall,

(33:39):
and they're lifting, and they're traveling, and so they're just overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Well, that kind of weeds up the haves to have,
not sot. He's the players, right, because if you don't
survive that, you don't you don't get good and you
don't play.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
I'm assuming, well they're on full ride scholarships. Well, so
typically it's just to do the bare minimum. It's a job. Uh,
I'm going to punch the clock. We referred to it
as punching the clock. Do what you need to do
to keep your scholarship and play and get your school
paid for.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
That must have been frustrating the end.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, you know, back when I played, there were there
were no scholarships you just played because you love to play.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
But if you're at Pittsburgh or Penn State or you know,
those those Indianas or whatever, they're just throwing out names
that I can remember Blue played. Well, it's more than
a job. It's it's national title.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Type of thing. Oh yeah, and it's different. It's just
they're built different.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
They're built different.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, David, anything I was to say, it's just been
kind of fun to watch the sport grow through our
time of covering sports and watching sports and seeing them
the fill up football stadiums.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
What was it Nebraska? Was it Nebraska this year? Who
who had the game outside? Was there a match outside
of Nebraska where they had like seventy five thousand fans watch?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I mean, come on, that's crazy, sold out the football stadium.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah. Yeah, whether Nebraska go to anything in the Braska,
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This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen
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Speaker 2 (38:53):
Hey, welcome back to I the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm Steve Rivera your Dave Silver.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, we have Keith Rubio point volleyball coach State champion
second year in.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
How many volleyball championships they have? They have a few, run.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
They have one for each level. So two, A, three,
A four, A five, A's south.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Point through the years? Oh no, no, is that what
you're asking? Yeah? How many for volleyball?

Speaker 5 (39:21):
This was our force?

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Okay, okay, yeah it's still pretty good. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah.
Did you always want did you grow up wanted to
be what you want to grow up do? Growing up?
What do you want to be? Coach? You didn't think.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I I you know, I went back to school and
I was working in retail grocery. I played volleyball, and
I was a kind of a bonehead in college and
got my butt.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Kicked off, so I quit school. You didn't know where'd
you go? I went to Pierce Junior College.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
That name sounds familiar for summers in the valley, right.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
In the valley.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Okay, yeah, very very well known that the coach that
started the program there did really well, and Dave played
for him.

Speaker 13 (39:59):
Well.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Anyway, I was a kind of a bonehead and selfish
and got kicked off and so I quit school and
I was working at a grocery store, and so I
worked there full time for years, and then I went
back to school when I got tired of doing that,
and I actually started dating a volleyball coach and she said, yeah,
you got to come out and coach with me.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
And she was not very good, so that kind of
she had to be cute though, she but had me
to go back.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
To school, I think, get my degree in in coaching,
and that that's when I voluntary at USA. I was
going to school full time at US at cal State
north Ridge, voluntary coaching at USC, working at nights stock groceries.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
In the USC is well back in the day.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
USC used to be the stuff, I think, so I
can remember correctly, they were good in the eighties, not
early late eighties.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Yeah, this is in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Okay, so but I think early nineties probably, yeah, yeah,
because I remember, like I said, the USC or an
associate head coach moved to Nosh crusis where you were
in the late eighties when I was still there, and
in fact, because I worked in the SID office and
I was doing press releases on that.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Okay, we'll hire.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
So you're talking forty years ago, almost full time ago.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Yeah. Yeah. How does your life story get conveyed to
your kids?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Now?

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Do you tell them some of these things, like, you know,
don't give up, you can still right now, don't be
a bonehead.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
I share with them stories.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
But you know, the kids these days, like if you
ask the average, the majority of the kids in high
school have never had a job, right, They don't pay
for their cell phones, they don't pay for their insurance,
they don't pay for their cars, they don't pay for
the gas. So they have no responsibility. And the parents
always and I understand that the parents justifyed by saying, Okay,

(41:50):
you're playing a sport, have good grades, don't be a bonehead,
and just worry about that. And so it's hard to read, ay,
your life story to somebody who's never had any of
those experiences or had to deal with any kind of challenge.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
That's true life. That makes sense, Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Unfortunately in volleyball with club especially it's a country club sport.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Yeah, only the people that can afford to play.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
True.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Sure, it's like soccer, volleyball, travel baseball, Yeah, things like that. Yeah,
and you get a different breede, you get a different
type of person playing that and hopefully over achievers mostly
hopefully Yeah, hopefully.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Well if you say two you were talking earlier about
club sports. Do you have many players in your clubs
who are doing other sports during the year.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Or zone to promote it, But there's a very small
percentage play multiple sports.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Its interesting. I mean, we all grew up, you know,
playing everything, as we're been.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Saying, that shifted about twenty some years ago, twenty five
years ago when they want to specialize and the parents
want them to specialize, and then baseball too.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
These guys are throwing their arms out when they're like,
you know, seventeen because they've been playing NonStop for Yeah,
you say were eight.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Hear about them having Tommy Johnson twice before they're twenty.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Yeah, it's just too much.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Who were your favorite? I'm sure you followed Dave all
his career too, given his success and yes and coaching.
What do you think about his career?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I had the Hall of famer, I mean Dave, Dave's.
Dave's journey has been unique, and that you know, typically
they stay with coaching, especially you're coaching, you either have
been fired, you're going to get fired.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Dave never got fired.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
And yeah, he resigned.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
After thirty something year or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
He wasn't the first choice at Arizona, right, they offered
several coaches.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I remember that time because they think they had I
want to say, Rosie Weggritch coach basketball. I can't remember
who I was here. You were here, Rosie. That's that's
where we replaced them, thinking basketball. Maybe june O Kowski
was basketball memory, so Rosie and he placed her. And
that was like early nineties, late eighties or whatever it
was mid eighties, No, because she was I covered her

(44:05):
in eighty nine ish, eighty eightish when he showed up
in nine eighty nine something like that.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Okay, whatever. Yeah, So he he's.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
That guy, and you know, and probably no surprise to
you that he had this success. Like before you say
that you went to places, like I said, I think
maybe when you first started in New Mexico States, it's
a place to go fire, get fired, right, if you
don't if you don't do well, r you you get
gone here. There's some stability. And he had that stability

(44:33):
and and Sedric is going to hire him.

Speaker 6 (44:35):
Yeah, he's very consistent. But yeah, I mean it was
tournaments just about every year, the final boards, in Final four.
I went to the Final four when they were there
in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
But year like twenty or nineteen nineties one where did
you go?

Speaker 4 (44:48):
You must have been there?

Speaker 5 (44:50):
That was Diego.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
And San Diego is in mine because I went to
STSU isn't an arena.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, And Dave wasn't much older than his players, and
he was fired now.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
He was young and fiery.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
And the thing about Dave, about Dave and I that
we were raised is we were just used to working, Yeah,
and so he knew nothing but work and hard work.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
And so I think one of the biggest issues that
we have, both Dave and I, is the amount of
effort and the work ethic of today's student athletes.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
We were talking earlier before you got here the last
hour about the meal box. We were talking about the
the old school way of doing things.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
You know, maybe a.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yell er, maybe a growler, you know what I'm saying
that's kind of going away, not kind of it's going away,
but there still lingers some how about that.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
What kind of coach are you? And did you have
to maybe change?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I think the really good coach because that that is
definitely in me.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Like it.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Ironically, my my volleyball team here at some point asked
me this, could you be a football coach?

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I said, oh.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, And they kind of rolled there, There's no way
because they've never seen that side of me. There's there's
definitely that side, and I think the experienced coaches really
know what your team needs and don't need. And so
this group, being a bunch of veterans and having you know,
the majority of them were juniors when I took over,

(46:14):
didn't need the yeller and the screamer, although there was
times that I really wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yeah, So how do you do that? How do you compensate?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I just bite my tongue and know that that's not
what's needed for this team to get better.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
So when you first got here last year the previous
how'd you do and how'd.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
You do well?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I think you know you have that honeymoon phase where
the team is wanting to prove themselves and individually, and
so they're really working hard every day and competitive and
pretty much sting what you ask, and then after a
while it kind of wears off. And then this year
there was that familiarity where they just kind of thought
that Rubio is kind of a pushover.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
And it was interesting because at one point late in
the year, I have I have four sophomores that are
on the team, and we just played a five setter
and my team was really tired, and a couple of
kids were getting sick. I think it was a Friday,
might have been a third I think it was a Friday,
and so we get in the gym and a couple
of kids had had missed practiced because they were sick,

(47:17):
and then a few of the others were really getting sick,
and so I went really like practice and one of
my sophomores said, why didn't you just kick our butt, y'all?
Let us make us run.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
And it was towards the end of the year, and
I said, because it would have an adverse effect on
this group of kids.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Those you're a psychology person.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
That's not what they need more experience than anything, I said,
if I did that, every single one of these seniors
would just give up, screw him, We're not going to work.
And I said, I want us to win state, you know,
And I, you know, I was really a little bit
leery of our chance of chances of winning state late

(47:56):
in the year because of how we went about our
business every day.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
I just wasn't sure that we were motivated enough.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Was something click, something changed, Maybe you make you say
something so but you you could identify it. You probably
knew what I did, what it was.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
You know, I coach you. So I had a game plan,
and we scout.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I scouted the teams that were playing, and so I
implemented a game plan I think Mica Mountain. When we
beat them in the summers and really handled them really well,
it was kind of a big turning point. The one
thing I will say about this group of upperclassmen is
that they don't necessarily always train really hard at practice

(48:37):
and want to get better at things.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
But they compete very.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Hard and they don't want to lose, and they maintained
their composion when.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
It gets closed.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
So you didn't answer my question from last year, though,
So how did you do last year?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Last season?

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Last year we lost in the semi finals.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
So you were you were good. You were good enough
to get that far.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
We should have been in the finals.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
The team we lost you won the finals, and we
were We lost the first set, close, won the second one, handedly,
lost the third and the fourth set we were up
by eight points or something like twenty two fourteen and lost.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
We got stuck in rotation.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
So that in itself probably motivated you and the girls
to come back and do better the year year later.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
You'd have to ask the girls, I'm not sure how
muchivate for you. For me, it was, well you you
really you didn't. I'm sure I didn't since that really no, Wow,
I would bring it up and I just didn't.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
But I think, you know, guys are so different competitors.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Ye think you know, And you can see it on
their face and what they how they go about their
business every day, day in and day out.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Wow, that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
When these girls look back at this season, you know,
in twenty years, twenty five years, what are they going
to remember most about it? I mean, winning the championship
might be the top, but maybe there's other things that
really stood out this year for them.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
A lot of friendships.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I think they worked, they worked hard, you know, and
I think they developed and I don't really think that
that they believed that they could win it until like
we were up two sets to none, and then in
the third set, the championship game, the championship game, and
then the third set. In the middle of the third set,
you could see a couple of kids getting really tight

(50:16):
and guying the ball and really questioning whether or not
they believe they could should win it, should win it,
or we're capable of winning it. We lost the third set,
and in the fourth set it was close, and then
we went on a run and ironically, with Kiki at
the service line, went back there and we ran off
like four or five, but I think it was a
six to zero run and then we won it.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So I'm sure you call it time out in some
of those situations. What do you tell them you're not
going to lose this?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
What do you tell them?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
You know, I tell them not to worry about the outcome.
I said, playing it safe is or playing not to
lose is?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
What do you see it all the time? You see
it all the time.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I be a gun singer. Quit thinking, just play, play
hard and play to win. And so it's such a.
It's such a psychology and on my game. You know,
so some coaches used a little hardcore method where you
yell at them, and you know, I think that the
really good coaches kind of know what their team needs.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Well, like you say, part psychologists, you have to kind
of right the right saying and if you say the
wrong thing, well you running them, not running them.

Speaker 13 (51:18):
They have proved to be the perfect answer you ever
have you ever coached the guys, he said, one year university? Yeah,
big difference I'm imagining. Yeah, you know, I mean the
guys are so competitive and the and the men. So
Quincy University is the Division two school, but their their
volleyball team competes at Division one, so they play against
Lewis and Ohio State and and and in the NPS Conference,

(51:43):
and so it was a lot of those teams have
been to the final four and one national championships and men's.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Well, Keith, thanks for joining us. You can have to
go do a workout later. My second one, Oh don't don't.
I have a heard time walking up the stairs wind pleasure.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
They thanks thanks for having congratulations, good to meet you,
thank you, good to meet you.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Congratulations, will probably see you no, you're too busy working
your camps out in the regular world of okay, cool cool,
Thanks a bunch, Thank you, Dave, great the interview. I
appreciate you coming in you talk to you guys tomorrow.
We're not going to do a Thursday show Friday show,
but talk to you guys tomorrow