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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen
to fifty. Want to take part in the show call
out Steve now went five to two oh four, one,
six seventy.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, welcome back to Why in the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty from Steve you're Dave. Now we
have Kobe with breaking news.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Breaking news from the sports world. Tetero. Ted McMillan had
a break up performance against the Arizona Cardinals with his
first one hundred yard game, catching six passes for one
hundred yards, and his return to his home state as
a rookie for the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Did you see if anybody I didn't pay attention to this,
but I think Channel four went up there. I don't
know if Channel nine did or Channel thirteen went to
go talk to him. No, I did not. Yeah, I'm
sure they did, did you see? No, but they must have. Yeah,
back in the day after the game, Yeah, yeah, you
just go up to watch a game and then talk
to them to do a story. I know back in
the day that we would have done something. We would
have done that too. Yeah, I'm not sure if that's happened.

(00:56):
I know Channel four did because she kind of previewed
the the and I just didn't want. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
It's interesting because leading up to the game, I did
see some interviews with him and talking about coming back
to Arizona, and that was they were done by like
the Carolina Panthers, you know, in house media whatever however
that works these days.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
But so there was some preview of that.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Do me a favorite day. While you have your computer there,
and while Kobe's talking about his breaking his Google Phoenix
times and NILI players, I found some Times Phoenix Times. Yeah,
and and I and I help players and we'll talk
about this in a second. Okay, go ahead, Kobe.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Arizona Softball lands top recruit class of twenty twenty seven.
Four star outfielder Mattea Stern commits the Wildcast, continuing their
pipeline from the O C Bat burst Busters Travel team.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, okay, so we'll see what happens with the potential
mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Tom Brady cleared by the NFL. The league says tom
Brady did not violate NFL rules by wearing a headset
in the Raiders coaching booth Monday night. As a more
minority owned or he's bared from the practice facilities, but
sideline and booth access during games is allowed.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, he's barred from barred from coaching, but he can
get on the headphones. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
And there's all kinds of controversy about where he's allowed
to be. Well, he's, you know, a Fox announcer and
part owner of the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
That's kind of strange. I mean, if you're gonna do one,
you can't do the other. We've kind of like, I
don't get that the line has been drawn and it's
kind of been moved.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
I'm not quite sure I understand all that. Why why
it's such a big deal?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
But the Heisman Race is heating up. Oklahoma QB John
mad and Miami's Carson Beck are now betting favorites in
the wide open Heisman Race, with both listed under plus
nine hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
What's uh? What's many? Now?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Lost ten thousand?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's gotta be big, let me see. Yeah, because he's
taking some heat down in Austin for they got some
huge games still to go. Yeah. Did you say, who
doesn't say that's fine? Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Carson back. Jeremiah Smith is fourth gunnerstocked in his third
arch manning. I'm scroll have scrolled down a lot here
plus four thousands, so huge draw.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You got a couple of bucks. Maybe he'll turn it around,
dude me, yeah, five bucks on.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
I don't know literally for the little early for the
after two weeks.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Steelers may bench rookie here returner Caleb Johnson after he
costly special teams era against Seattle. Mike Tomlin says Johnson
likely won't return kicks in week three.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
It was at play where he just he with the
new kickoff. He was confused, he left the ball roll
and the Seahawk score touchdown.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Clemson's Dabo Sweeney fires back.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
After a one and two start and dropping out of
the top twenty five, Sweeney says, if Clemson's tire of winning,
they can send him past.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
But yeah, he's coaching. He's one of those guys. And
and rightly so, you make a lot of money, you
have success, you could you can throw rocks back at
whoever's being critical of you, because he does have the resume.
But the thing about that resume gets old and you
don't have the you don't have the cachet like you
think you do.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
What is it about some of those coaches in the
South they're pretty feisty, especially with the media. You just
see Brian Kelly.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
We talked about that yesterday and then he apologized.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I apologized, which is good, but I mean him and
I mean I don't think I would have wanted to
cover Nick Saban, would you know?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
No, they do have well, they make a lot of money.
I think that empowers them and winning empowers them a lot.
I would loot had his issues with people here, with
certain people here, uh and some good yes last year
Tommy was a little cranky or too time or two.
I think you there's a lot of pressure to win.
I'm not I'm not gonna aliby them because it don't

(04:57):
need an alibi. Hell, you're making a lot of money.
You can have the with a lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's part of the deal.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
But much is given, much as expected, and it's just
what it is.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
And it's the heat of the battle.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
They're going to be upset or they're going to be happier,
They're going to be, you know, emotional. So I think
you can expect that, but sometimes it's just especially some
of these college football coaches and maybe college basketball to
following that.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Here's the issue, David, and you know, because you had
the camera, it becomes it becomes the story, not the
wins and the losses. It becomes the crankiness and the
surliness and the the sarcasm, sarcasm and stuff becomes the story,
not the wins and losses, and that becomes bad for
the dude and.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
The school exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
They don't understand that. And you know, how you solve
this and not that it would be solved is is
And this I don't know if they ever happened. It
happened once in my time at covering UVE that the
media met with X, whether it's the a d or
the coach, and he said, this is who I am,
this is what I do, this is how I covered
the team, this is my background, and go through the

(05:56):
room and talk about get everybody to know everybody in
this and then we covered the team. Does that make sense? Yeah?
I don't know if it'll solve anything, but at least
you know the people covering the team, because I think
this guy with the with the Kelly situation is a
hometown columnist or a hotel reporter that maybe the maybe
Kelly is surprised that it's coming from inside the house.

(06:18):
Does that right? And a lot of the coaches think
that because you're inside the house, you're on our team.
Not so much.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, you know, there's a lot of people who are
very compative with the combative against the media these days
anyway anywhere. So I guess sports is just another spot
and it's always been that way. And like what you
just said too about it's a reflection of the school
in a lot of cases, and the fans don't necessarily
know the whole story and they see, you know, the
coach blowing up in front of some reporters and.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Hey, isn't your coach a hot head?

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Kind of?

Speaker 5 (06:49):
I mean, it's not good.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Pr You got those guys they know better, they know better,
and though they're trying to motivate their team or.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Something like that.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'll give you one example, Sean, and you weren't covering team,
but Sean, Sean talked to the guy who came all
the way down from Phoenix. Remember, go back to Phoenix,
and you're not going to get it here, really, you
know there just you know when answer, you have no
comment for you. Sorry, we move on, pretty simple.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Sean McVay tore his plan tour Fecia during Sundays went
over the Titans. He's coaching through it, no plans to stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
That's the toe flanter fasci itis. Is that what they're saying?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah somewhere on the foot, he said, yeah,
he was.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
He was trying to flag down the officials. I forget.
He described it his postgame what he did.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
And he looks so so much in shape, but the
puts not so much. I guess, have you gone to
play pickaball?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Not yet? Well, yes I have.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, So so I was listening to some story or
podcast or something over the weekend. Number one sport where
old people are getting hurt, you know, hips and legs
and achilles and blah blah blah. One because you think
you're not going to be that uh uh you're not
gonna be that uh movable. Yeah, because you're all you know,

(08:08):
what the hell? It's just that, But no, you do.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah part of it A few times I played is that, Yeah,
because sometimes you're literally standing still and you have to
make a quick move just to turn and I could
just see myself, Oh my my, my waist is killing
me right now?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Am I be an observer not to play? I'm not.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
I don't have to race down and chase down any
you know long you know balls.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
It's just a matter of just flinching.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I can't get hurt getting off my couch. I'm okay.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
I have a hard enough time with that.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Vikings running back Aaron Jones moves to the i R.
Big blow for Minnesota as he and Anjie Jim McCarthy
are on the injured list.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
They look bad the other night. It's just bad.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Mm hmm. Okay, And Carson Wentz will start Week two.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Carson still around, he's with this has got to be
team or five. Well, who's the one that got the
Cincinnati who's replacing Jake Browning? They're playing each other week two.
It's an old guy day.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
Yeahs looking better Jake Browning Washington, right you dub Yeah, yes, yeah,
so it could so the starter those starters are gone,
and the Jid and Daniels have got hurt.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Dallas might be out.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, these things questionable. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
NBA eyes European League in twenty seven or twenty eight.
Commissioner Adam Silver says a new europe based league co
run by the NBA and FIBA could launch by twenty
twenty seven. Twenty eight through logistics still being worked out.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Is that like a feter? Is that like a feuter
into the NBA? Or because a lot of the the
international is already coming over and taking jobs? Yeah? Really?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
How many more?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I wonder what the percentage is? You know, international players
coming over and you know Luca's gotta.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Be a few, say fifteen. I was gonna say like
thirty percent.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Josh Allen to wear visor Thursday night, Bill's quarterback will
probably wear a visor versus Miami to protect his nose
after it hits Sunday left him bloodied Versy or jets.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Ye saw that just kind of went into the pile
and came out blood eating yeap?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Is that it?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I believe?

Speaker 8 (10:22):
So?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yes, Okay, did you google that one with the Phoenix Times?
Did you find it?

Speaker 9 (10:26):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, it's an older artist.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's just a year old. It's a year old. I
never saw this.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I don't know why did we not see this.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I didn't know it was a year old. And I said,
I was googling something and that popped up and I said, really,
this is what this is. Explain it real quick. It is.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's the nil numbers from from last year Arizona last
year so well football team and it's Arizona as a state,
not just here.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, although there's a lot of people from Arizona on
that list list, right.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I mean, give it the headline guarding off with well,
give the headline. It's the top.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
These eleven athletes are earning the most nil money in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know this is a year ago now, a year
ago now.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, so it says u of a stars are lining
up deals while the sun Devils are lagging behind. So
that's probably changed a little bit after especially issues back
football season last year. But yeah, no surprise. Leading the
way is Noah Fafiita one million dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and that's I think that's now low.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, I think we're climbing a t Mac eight ninety
eight hundred and ninety thousand.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Which I think was low. Probably Caleb Love seven hundred
and ninety five thousand.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I saw a number like that, and I think that's
I thought that's also low. Yeah, I think at the
end of the day, Yeah, justin Flow, which was surprised
the heck on him.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
He's never he's gone here anymore, and he didn't play.
He barely got hurt six hundred and sixty one.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Sixty for a guy who didn't play much, barely played.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Sam Levett, the quarterback at ASU five hundred and ninety thousand.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'm sure he's getting probably doubled that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Jonah Savanaa the draft pick big lineman, four hundred and
seventy one thousand venue, Arizona co O Pete, is this right?
This is out of high school at a high school.
He was ridal four hundred and forty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
What Yeah, high school people are getting paid.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Jada Williams, she's not on. Can she leave Arizona for
four hundred and twenty one hours?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Surprised me? I guess because she had a number of
endorsements and that's in IL.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
She's got big TikTok and Instagram followers. Apparently Tokario Davis
Audios went to Washington four hundred and fifteen thousand.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
And that's what number are you at now?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Number nine?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Number nine? And what's that means? About seven of them
involved in Arizona, almost all of them.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Jacob Manu another guy who left two hundred and eighty
eight thousand, which.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Was he was underpaid. If the flow was getting what
he was getting. He was way underpaid.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And then Jake hild A Brand from Basha High School
and Chandler two hundred and thirty two thousand dollars. What
did he play? He was an offensive tackle. Is not
going to graduate until twenty twenty seven. So man, is
he coming here? I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
I don't even know who's he's not gonna graduate from
until next year. And he got that money.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
What is the source? Again? Was I think on three
on three at the top. I'm sorry, I think it's
on three from last year. So I'm sure the numbers
are totally different for this year if they on three. Yeah,
and they kind of you know, scour the score the
web and find these things out a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, we'll have to look at the more recent numbers.
But those those numbers aren't. Aren't that surprising, No, but
it's they are surprising still.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
And you said, oh, he's gotten to the millions. Man,
it's like probably ten millions, and and and look.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
He's way over paid, right, and he's doing commercials, I
mean things like that.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
What does it saying? It's it's all right, Well you'll
find it, but I'm sure it's near ten million.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Probably six point eight million.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
That's close enough to ten Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Send your kids to college and no play football. Yeah,
well you have to teach about to play first. Yeah,
be sports, be athletic and really good.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Forget about college. Yeah, I forget about the pros. If
you can make that kind of money.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, years we talked about that, because Noah's making probably
one and a half if not more. And uh after
next year, what's going to become of Noah? I mean,
is he gonna play in Canada? Is he good enough
for the NFL? I think I made a bet with
somebody that he's going to play in the NFL. I
bet it. I said that he wouldn't. I could be wrong,
but well.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I mean, you look at like like a Kyler Murray.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
He's about the same size he managed, but he's got
a lot of athletic ability too.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, and he scampers around and he's quick like he is.
Uh not to say that Noah can't do it. I
think he's a fantastic uh like pretty pretty's not highly
thought of, right the last guy drafted myster irrelevant, But
he's got smarts and he's got he knows how to
win and if you want a quarterback, guess what you
want smart, you know how to win.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Simple And he got paid.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, and he got hurt then got hurt, but you know,
hopefully he'll be back, yeah this season at some point.
But yeah, it's interesting what's out there for these guys
these days.

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Streamy live on the Ihearts Radio while this is I
on the Ball with Steve Rovera on Fox Sports furteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Hey, welcome back to one of the ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. You got a call. Hello, is
this Judy speaking Judy Judy, Judy? How you doing? My
favorite favorite? How you doing? Are you busy? Because you've
got a lot of things going on? I see, Well,
it's busy, you always busy? Sure you are. What's going on?

(19:56):
You sent me three names? Tell me about what's going
on with the three names?

Speaker 8 (20:01):
Five five names?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I can't count.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
Yeah, we have. We have five of our teen boys
from First t two Son that are at Pebble Beats
and Spyglass to play in the Peer Insurance Championship with
the PGA Tour Champions this week. So it's very exciting.
We have more kids going than any other chapter in
the nation, so it's excited.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
And how did they qualify.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
They had to fill out uh, they had to write essays,
They had to apply and compete with all the other
kids that were applying from other First Tea chapters. And
obviously they have to be decent golfers because they're playing
Pebble Beach and Spyglass with the PGA Tour Champions, so
that's a that's a pretty big deal. But they all

(20:45):
get raided on their applications. They write essays and then
we write letters and based on all their community service
and what they've done with our First Tea chapter, so
it's pretty So it's pretty cool. In twenty fourteen, I
don't know how many people remember Chris Myers is the
kid that won the whole thing. He was playing with
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(21:08):
the shot and won the whole tournament.

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Wow. Yeah, if you don't recognize that, other voices Dave
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Speaker 8 (21:13):
Case, Hi, Daved Silver.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 8 (21:18):
So wonderful?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
So these papers will tell me again what they have
to do to impress people.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
They write in they have to throw out these applications,
so they all, you know, almost like applying for college.
They're writing essays and answering a bunch of questions and
then we submit their information. But like say that, and
then they have to submit all their golf scores and
tournament play obviously, because the kids have to be good golfers, for.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Sure, they are sure, no, no, fantastic. How many how
many kids you have golfing? Though?

Speaker 8 (21:46):
Well, in our first tea program where we operate at
like ten locations of green grass golf locations, we have
about a thousand kids over the course of the year,
all a thousand different kids. So pretty cool. So we've
grown a lot since we started.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh, I was just gonna say so it continues to
grow in a good way, right obviously, and in how
many what's your bandwidth? If that's the thousand?

Speaker 8 (22:09):
Now it's hard to say, isn't it, because we just
we need, we need more coaches in order to grow
because we have to close our classes because we use
a ratio of six kids to want adult coach, and
so if we have a class, if we have a
class and we don't have six kids to want adult,
then we have to close it. So we're all about

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the safety is very important as well.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
So it's interesting too. Yeah, the sport.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
You know, we kind of went through the whole Tiger
Woods period where people were coming out and playing more
because you know, he was popular and the sport was popular.
He's pretty much kind of done at least for now, right.
What's the state of youth golfer? Our kids still? You
know watching it on TV and seeing Scotti Scheffler and
thinking I want to be him?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Now?

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Is that kind of where things are?

Speaker 8 (22:58):
Yeah, well they don't want much on TV, but they
watch a lot of them. They watched lessons on their
phones and they learned.

Speaker 14 (23:08):
How to play on YouTube.

Speaker 8 (23:10):
I mean it's a different world. It's a different world,
that's for sure, there's no doubt. But you know, COVID
really blossomed. A lot of kids took up golf during COVID,
you know, which is which is quite interesting. And so
that's blossomed. But you know, obviously, you know, we're just
a safe place. You know, a lot of our kids
just come to play and have fun, and then we

(23:31):
have kids come to us that want to get better
and get serious. And our PGA Junior League seventeen U
All Star team we just got back last week from
Palm Desert. We made it to the regional championships and
we won the consolation match. We didn't win the whole thing, unfortunately,
but the kids played well, but they just didn't put
well enough on the first day. But so those kids

(23:53):
are eight kids on that team. They just got back,
and so so that's exciting. So we kind of run
the gamut of kids that just want to come and
play and have fun and learn about, you know, the
nine core values and the five key commitments and and
learn about staying in school. And then other kids that
really really want to work on their game and take
a lot of lessons and practice practice practice, So we

(24:14):
offered all but but we've really increased our team retention
because we now have a college scholarship kids can apply for.
So this year we started it three years ago and
so now we have about eight kids on college scholarship
with us. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
It's neat.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
I saw a story today, I guess Greg Canson wrote
something about Don Pooley going into the ariazon A Golf.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
Yeah. Don Pooley's going into the Arizona Golf Hall of Fame,
which is very exciting.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
That is so good.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I mean, can I say somebody with that? With that,
it's kind of I'm surprised that it's now not a
long time ago.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
I know, it's I know, it's crazy, isn't it. Yeah,
it's crazy. So the year I went in, they put
in Peter Costas and Howard Twitty, so it was definitely
time for Don to get in and jobs just the
salt of the earth guy. He helps us all the time. Yeah,
And it's it's funny when the kids google him and
they see how he won a million dollars for getting

(25:08):
a hold in one and they're like their eyes just
gets so big.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
If he was a great ambassador or Tucson. I mean again,
every time he would play, especially you know, anywhere, we'd
always have to mention his score an available and available
and he was great. Remember, he'd always be there, you
know with the on the Monday events at the tournament,
and he'd be out there with that.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
Oh yeah, he did everything with us, with the specialist
kids at our caterments and stuff. And no, he's just
a wonderful man.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Could I I'm gonna ask aod dumb question, because you
don't ask dumb questions. I'm sure you missed the conquistador job.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Well, I get to see them a lot because we
still do stuff and our kids volunteer at the tournament. Yeah,
you know, I'd go to the office to say hi
to people, and there's a few conquistadores that are on
our first key board. So so, but I don't miss
you know, I don't miss I mean it's just so rewarding,
you know, working with the kids.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sure, sure, no, And you do a great job, a
great job.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
Well, it's it's fun. I mean, it's fun to just
spread the love of golf and get kids learning the game.
And and you know, they don't have to become you know,
the next Donica Sorenstain or Tiger Woods or anything like that.
You just want to introduce them to it so you
know they can play when they're older. And you know,
it's so great for business and networking.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
So I asked Eric Rhodes, who was the guest in
the first hour, if I gave him one magic wand
when one wish, what would be your wish for your organization?

Speaker 8 (26:34):
You know, money helps, you know what I mean, Well,
it's it's it's it's always that way, especially in the
world we live in, and you know, relying we we
struggle to get a lot of grants because people think
we're just a golf program, even though we're teaching life
skills through the game of golf. So we really have
to rely on you know, golfers to donate, individual donors

(26:55):
and things like that. You know, we get grants here
and there from the U. S. G A and the
PGA Tour super Store and things like that. But even
though we have a huge education component in our curriculum,
we still struggle, you know, when it comes to grant money.
So we rely on individual donations, which most nonprofits have
to as well. Right, It's just sometimes tough when you
apply for something you need get that big fat no,

(27:16):
you know, so, and especially when we're saving our money
now to send kids to college, and so much of
what we do, our kids are on financial aid because
you know, we're we know we have some country club
kids in our program, but it's not like we're a
country club program. You know, we really are trying to
take what we do to you know, every kid is available.
So you know, a neat thing we do on Wednesdays

(27:38):
is we picked up kids at a Manzo Elementary it's
an elementary school around the corner from Melreal golf course
and put them in our van and bring them over
and they just have a ball. And we gave them
all their own sets of golf clubs last year and stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So nice.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
You know, every day, every day is a new day
and a new smile. But you know, so it's.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Fun outside of money. I thought maybe number two would be,
like you talked about, if it's one in six ratio,
that you probably need more mentors or golfers or well.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
Totally more more coaches and more volunteers. You know, the
less people we have to pay to help us, you know,
then the better. So absolutely, if.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
They want to come volunteer, how do they get involved?

Speaker 8 (28:17):
They can just go to first T twosum dot org
and there's a you know you're interested in volunteering cab
there you click on that. You know, or you can
just call our office at five two zero six two
eight one five five five and we'll get you going.
You know, you do have to be background checking. You
take a safe Sport training and then an assistant coach
training online because obviously child protection is our number one,

(28:39):
you know thing that we deal with, as you can imagine. Yeah, so,
but you know, parents, guardians and grandparents and aunts and
uncles all know that their kids are safe with us.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
And is it are you looking for instructors mostly or
what what other kind of jobs?

Speaker 15 (28:54):
If we're really we're really.

Speaker 8 (28:55):
Looking for mentors, you know, the golf skill stuff we teach,
and we have plenty of you know, golf teachers and
PJ pros that we help the kids with and if
they want to go outside and get more help, we
make those arrangements. But you know, everybody that we have
involved with us are perfectly capable to help the kids along.
So you don't have to be a professional golfer, you know.

(29:17):
You know, former teachers really work well for us with
the curriculum we teach.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, no, clearly, need let me ask you a dumb question.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
You keep saying you're always asking them questions, questions.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Thank you, thank you. Uh did they have something like
this whom we were growing up?

Speaker 8 (29:35):
And I just well, well, in Tucson, the Conquisadors and
Parks and reck have always sponsored the you know, junior
golf to play the city courses for you know, like
a dollar. Now, if you're not a member of first team,
they still offer things. But if you're a member of
first team, we get to a first tea card and
you play for Freedom Rio and the other courses. It's

(29:55):
just a buck. But the Ricky Rare Junior Golf program
is the Monday and Tuesdays summer tournaments. And so we
took Ricky rech Junior Golf over like you know, nine
years ago, and so we run those tournaments now on
Mondays and Tuesdays in the summer. And then we also
run competitive junior golf tournaments called Southern Arizona Junior Golf.

(30:16):
Those are having Saturdays and Sundays once a month when
it's not summertime. And that's competitive junior golf where the
kids scores if they the eighteen hole kids that played
thirty six holes, because they play two days, they are
two day tournaments. Those scores are actually sent to Junior
Golf Scoreboard, so those kids actually get junior golf scoreboard
rated and it helps when they're you know, trying to
go play college golf and things. And then we're kind

(30:39):
of a training ground to have kids, you know, learn
how to play in junior golf tournaments and a friendly
atmosphere so they can go play in Phoenix. The Junior
Golf Associate of Arizona, you know, they're huge, and they
run a ton of events, and that's all they do
is run junior golf tournaments. They run two here that

(30:59):
the King Easter Doors and us help sponsor, so one
at Silver Bell in April and the other one in
the end of May flashed June at Randolph, So they
and then Phoenix kids come here and play, and then
our two son kids don't have to travel far, which
is great.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Let me ask you, uh, I was gonna ask you.
Oh you remember back in the day, Dave, I think
you guys did it. I know we did it at
the Citizen where one of us reporters, I don't know,
in mid nineties, we'd go to the Ricky Rick and
write about it. Oh yeah, I mean we tell stories
about and now you know, given the situation, that's probably
not the case anymore.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
Now it's mostly you know, you're all sports Tucson and
Andy Morales that you know, covers us you know, for
the most part. But yeah, it's tonight on kb O
A Jenna Think is going to do a story on
our kids going to Pebble, which is great.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Nice, that's good. Yes, they're so.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, I have a friend who knew Ricky Rerick uh huh,
you know he's this guy's now ninety two, I want
to say, so he grew up, so he knew of
him back and then you know, sixty years ago, seventy
years ago, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
So it's been around.

Speaker 8 (32:07):
He was mister he was mister junior golf. His son's
still around here, son, yeah, son, you know, as a
member at Tucsun Country Club.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I mean, I think, you know, we take it for granted,
but we've got we've had some of the best junior
golf programs forever here and I'm sure a lot of
cities around the country wish they had that totally.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
Yeah, and all of Arizona is just very competitive, you know,
so very very competitive junior golf.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, Okay, Judy, always good to talk to you. Thanks
for coming on at the last minute.

Speaker 8 (32:40):
Perfect, So to tune into the Golf Channel for the
Peer Insurance Championship this weekend and he might catch our
kids on TV.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay, that's what days the whole.

Speaker 8 (32:49):
Weekend, Friday, Saturday and then if they make the cut, Sunday.
So they're there right now playing practice rounds and things.
But the tournament competition is Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
So are they going to play a lot alongside the guys?
How does that work?

Speaker 8 (33:02):
They partner with them, so they're alongside the guys. So
it's a pro am kind of like the AHTP Pebble
Beat pro Am with the two amateurs, the junior golfer
and the pro. And so they partner with the pro
first score for their team score, and then they help
the amateur scores as well. But they in order to
make the cut, they their score with the pro and

(33:24):
their score to make the cut on Sunday is the
big part of what they have to do.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Are you okay? And telling us who they are?

Speaker 8 (33:32):
Of course I'd love to.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
So it's Callum Deguilla who goes to Catalina Foothills High School.
Cason Shotwell, who's at Sienaga, Riley Stidham who is homeschooled
but plays golf for Marana, and then a great story.
We have Hunter and Jake Chen who are twins. They
play at Micah Mountain and they're the other two that
are there.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
So all great kids, great, no fantastic So Friday, Saturday,
Sunday on the Golf Channel, Thank.

Speaker 8 (33:56):
You on the Golf Channel, the Peer Insurance Championship, the champions.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Thank you, Judy, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Thanks thanks to Judia mcumratt from First T Great organization.
I applied for one of those things when the paper
closed or I was in between jobs maybe at the MGA,
and had time for the summer and we've been through
all the paperwork, was ready to do it, and then
I got a new job, so.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I didn't have time. I mean, now we covered some
of the events.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I'm trying to remember exactly where exactly, but yeah, there
were especially those Summer Rick and Merrick events we went
out and covered.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
It was you know, those were your typical summer stories
and twoson.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, very much was going on, freaking easy stories.
But yeah, kids enjoyed it. And then you know, simple
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Speaker 1 (38:35):
This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
We want to take part in the show. Call up
Steve now went five to two oh four one six
seventy four to night.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver.
Anybody want to call, we'd appreciate it. We got about
fifteen minutes. We have plenty of time to take some
calls on any subject you'd like to talk about, you know,
moving forward, Dave's here, I'm going to go back in
the day. If not, that's fine. But did those numbers

(39:09):
surprise you? They surprised the heck out of me, hope
before we went to judy with the uh with the payments.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
All some of the un now stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't right nowadays, it's it's probably
twice that twice.

Speaker 14 (39:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
I mean that information is evidently findable and people are
talking about it, and you know before I mean, it's
a whole new world, it really is.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
It's a whole new situation.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
People can find out that information and athletes know what
other athletes are making and it's got to be a
little bit strange in college.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
But that's the way we are living in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Right, right, no question. So again, if I want to
call five two, four, one, six, seventy four forty uh,
so I want to go back to the go ahead.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
I was gonna say, you know, it's a big business.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
It always has been, and now it's a little bit
more manageable, I guess in terms of transparency, is what
these guys are doing and what's happened as opposed to
the old days, where you know, it's just kind of
here's here's an.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Envelope kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
But now we're talking, you know, hundreds of thousands of
dollars just to just to come here and play.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Did we talk about the basketball season in terms of uh?
I think we did this off air another that I
think about it with the exhibition games and the big
game on uh in Vegas against Florida.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the season begins really with
those exhibitions on October eighteenth is the first.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
One, with saying, and that's going to be a pretty
good exhibition game. Yeah, why are they playing an exhibition?
I wonder how with them?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah? Yeah, typically they're they're kind of like the secret team, right,
they come in and go there, then they'll talk about it.
I've done They've done that two or three times with
the Saint Mary specifically. I don't know, but that's fine.
I mean again, one of those teams that will get
you ready because they're they're good but unorthodox.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Yeah, so we'll see really good. I mean they make that.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
They make the postseason pretty much every year somewhere. Yeah,
and then after that it's it's a Saturday game seventeenth,
so Arizona football must be fourteenth, okay, eighteen three, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
So there must be.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
They might be a football game, I don't know, on
the road somewhere. Yeah, anyway, and then what I'm so
sorry about that. Then they go then they have the
embry Riddle game. So that's a real exhibition game that's
here as well. October twenty seven, so that's like nine
days later, seven o'clock game here. And then it gets real.

(41:30):
I mean they literally go from that to November third
to Vegas to play Florida defending national champs. Uh, you know,
big time game on TV. It's a Monday, Monday night
game to the Monday game. Yeah, so I'll be going
out there for that two years ago. Yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah. The funny thing is I don't know what to
do because the Breeders Cup is that weekend as well,
So I gotta out what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
So the Breeders Cup is in seventy second, that's in
dull Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
So I mean that first month of this and is
quite a quite a schedule with Florida. Then they got
a couple you know, games to work work the lineup
together with Utah Tech in Au November eleventh, and then
they go to La to please you see La.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Right, that's not the game. I'm not going there. We've
got to call Hello, you're on the air. Who's this? Hi? Steve?
This is done?

Speaker 14 (42:20):
Hi, Dave Kobe?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
What's going on?

Speaker 8 (42:23):
Don Man?

Speaker 14 (42:24):
And those nil numbers are kind of oh, kind of
what they're crazy?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
David.

Speaker 14 (42:30):
I thought that was a little I thought that was
kind of much, considering it's Arizona.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (42:37):
And then and then, like you said, you've got to
assume it's it's it's more now, but I can't see
how it can be.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
But well, that's those are nil. Now you have to include,
not you have to include. But now they're getting the
revenue share, which is more than that.

Speaker 14 (42:53):
Yeah, is it more than that because you got to
pay everybody?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (42:58):
No, But I mean there's an your guys on the
football team.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Right. Well, let me tell you. So they start with
twenty twenty and a half million, Yeah, and they're getting
about eighty percent, eighty five percent of that twenty million
football is getting. Football is getting. So I think I
read and were you we.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Were here one day.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
We were breaking it down yeah, yeah, they were saying
the quarterbacks are going to be making that kind of money,
even more than one million.

Speaker 14 (43:23):
That's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's no, it is. I mean, here's my issue with it.
Don You and I and day We're sitting here at
a coffee shop blah blah blah, and we get a
call from you, a can you help us with the
athletes and keeping them here, making them happy? And the
fifty dollars ticket fee because we got to you know,
pay them and they're making that already.

Speaker 14 (43:43):
Well that and that's just the thing. I think it's
that's that's outrageous. I mean because if they're if they're
still going to class, the value of that is going
is a lot more than and this wage that they're
going to get for four years. But I just.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
It just seems awfully skewed.

Speaker 14 (44:09):
And at some point they're going to have to put
some kind of a salary cap on there and they
just say, you know what, lump it the ones that
got stupid loaded, you know, they you know that happened,
and it's not that's not going to happen anymore.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Right. Here's my there's a couple of issues when when
this all started with five years ago, when Jay and
I were talking about it, I'm thinking, if Don has
a daughter, a pretty good softball player, a little susie Q,
and she's a stud pitcher, Okay, cool, she's going to
be making twenty five thousand like everybody else. And you say, love, right,
everyone's gonna be making the same amount. You all work

(44:44):
hard ei their own sport. And then I'm finding out, no,
it doesn't work that way. Certain people are going to
get more money than other people, and my daughter is
not going to get or your daughter's not going to
be getting paid that much. I'm thinking, what the hell
is she working just as hard?

Speaker 14 (45:00):
She's working just as hard. And depending on the program
at a certain school, you got an also ran football program,
but you've got an elite softball program or or one
of the elite volleyball programs, and who you know, who's
the one that brought the national championship to the school.
Yeah no, at some point that that's got to have

(45:22):
a a that should have a sliding scale or that
should have some worth to it.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, and totally agree with you. But here's the other issue. Okay, yeah,
good point, Don and susie Q. I feel sorry, but
guess what, Jimmy Bob, who's the center of the football team,
and the football team is bringing in all the revenue.

Speaker 14 (45:40):
Oh no, I get that. And I mean it's you're
going to need a slide ruler and h and the
advocates or something to try to figure out all this masks,
because it's a lot of maths. Yeah, because the ones,
the ones, the ones that are going to the Sweet sixteen,
like the men's tennis team, and the ones in the
on revenue sports that are better advancing to the baseball

(46:04):
team that goes to there. They went to college World
Series and and Chip told us, you know last year
that you know, he's trying to get it so that
those guys can come and just come to school for free,
and that that's a pretty good deal in the baseball realm.
You know, we know that some of these SEC schools
probably you know, have a lot deeper prop puckets, and

(46:25):
you know they're going to be able to buy some
of these other players. But I mean, it's it's, oh man,
I'm just glad I don't have to do that matter, right,
I mean, because it's because it's it's crazy. How how
do you tell how do you tell the guys that
went to the College World Series that they don't deserve
more as opposed to well, last year, we'll say last

(46:49):
school year, as opposed to a four and eight football team. Yeah,
you know, it's it's it's it's tough. I don't I
don't envy Desert at all because you know, and she
can't and she's not ever going to have to stop fundraising.
I mean everywhere she's going to go, you know, everybody

(47:09):
sees her with you know, her hand is going to
be out and that's that's it's you know, it has
to be out. And that's the thing is people can't
get offended because she's she's got to be doing that.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And it's every year. It's not like that twenty million
goes and you know rolls over. It's every year.

Speaker 14 (47:27):
Every years. It's it's every day. But every there's gonna
be no off season for her. Yeah. But and then, well,
I wanted to mention about last Friday night when when
Kansas State got that second touchdown which wasn't a touchdown
that might have been postponed by a play maybe.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
But.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
It was.

Speaker 14 (47:52):
In past years, I would have went there, they go,
same old Arizona but this time I kind of I
took a step back and I looked at it and
I said, let's see how they react here, Let's see
how this goes. And and they, you know, they shut
them down from that point forward. So that was that

(48:13):
was good on them. I was it would have been
nicer if we'd have been able to get a touchdown
after that. But I mean, I think, uh, I like
the direction that we're going. Certainly they got they need
to clean some things up, which is a good thing.
At three and allo, you know, if they'd have played
a great game that was, you know, semi flawless, you know,

(48:35):
it would have been. And then with a bye week,
this would have been a trap game come come in
two weeks with Iowa State. But I think it's I
think it's more winnable now. Yeah, because I was Iowa
States not blowing any doors off of anybody. Then we
already got away from Marketsas State last week.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Let me ask you real quest. Did you listen to
the show on the regular? I think, uh, did you
listen to Gonzalez yesterday?

Speaker 14 (49:03):
I missed d G, but I watch his I watch
his his his uppressors every week and I and I
saw him on another show. I heard him on another
show this morning.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I love that dude.

Speaker 11 (49:19):
I love that guy.

Speaker 14 (49:20):
That guy is. He's got a lot of energy. He
does his homework. I mean he like like he mentions
it when he was at the school up north. You know,
he knows, not just you know, I mean I think
he knows. He does it with the respect. He doesn't
call it a s U and he doesn't that and
that because he's here now, and I sure hope we

(49:44):
get to keep him for a while because I think
he I think he's a he is a super asset
for Arizona. I think he fits Arizona really well. His
scheme and his way of doing things hits the type
of guys that Arizona gets. And I think that, you know,
because you know a lot of people and you look,

(50:08):
you listen to some of these shows and everything, and
everybody's talking about is Arizona?

Speaker 8 (50:13):
You know?

Speaker 14 (50:13):
Can you consider Arizona a threat to win the Big Twelve?
And I'm going, hey, we're Arizona. You know, don't think
that we're going to get to the college football playoffs
and that we're going to win a national championship at football.
We're not that school. I mean, if they ever get there,
and if they ever did it, it would be awesome.

(50:35):
I'll be at the parade for sure. But I'm not
so naive that to think that Arizona's going to be
able to compete for that. Will they be able to
qualify for the tournament? I think that they could, you know,
this year.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
But you know, if it happens, it happens. I mean, heck, yes,
you did it last year. And you know, to start
the season, had no business thinking that, right, you know,
but you know, it's it is what it is, you know.
And like I've said before on this show, because yours

(51:11):
is the only show I call in and two Sunday,
and and the thing is is, I want Arizona to
be competitive, and I want other teams not to want
to be playing Arizona this week. That's what I want
for Arizona football.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Right right. I think they're eventually going to get there.
It might even be this year. It might even be
this year. Well nough more. In ten days or whatever days.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
People are optimistic, that's for sure. It's nice to have
that feeling, exactly.

Speaker 14 (51:35):
It's nice to be optimistic. And I think that in
days or whatever it is. As long as we make
a good showing that it's going to be a positive.
But I really think that if they continue on the
path that they're on, I think that that game is winnable. Yeah,
I think it's a winnable game.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I think so.

Speaker 14 (51:55):
All right, Doc, last week and I think Kanadas State
isn't what we thought they would be. Oh well, yeah, no,
we appreciate it. They're still as big as they were.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Thank you got about a minute left, Thanks Ton for
calling in.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
And fans are optimistic.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
You know, they've got games that are winnable, got a
number of home games still to go.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
So I think there's some optimism here. It's fun to
have that going right now, Dave. We've been here a
long time.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
It beats the alternative, that's for sure, because we've seen
the alternative.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Well sometimes again too, you'd go, oh my gosh, we've
still got.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
To play USC. We still have to go on the
road to Oregon.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
I mean, you just didn't feel too good about that,
But now you look at this schedule to go in maybe.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
But here's the funny thing. Every now and again, those
Arizona teams would sneak when they rose in well, but
guess what, the week later, they lose what they should
have won. You know, they should have won. It's always
kind of like one you get one here and then
you lose one there. What should have never happened, happened
in Dick's time, happened in richest time. It happened to
everybody's time. You got to be consistent. You can't have

(52:51):
those letdowns. You know, you got to win the games
you're supposed to win. But that's, you know, that's sports.
Nice doesn't always happen. That's sports. And that's today's show.
Thank you, Dave. Tomorrow we're gonna have the UA basketball
heavy on that, so I hope to hear from you
guys tomorrow. Thanks a bunch
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