Monday, July 14, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve Rivera, he's got his Eye on the Ball on
Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, you're Javia Morales.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Now we have bready with breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is Eye on the Ball, breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty eight.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
All right, lovely Monday, to break some news on Starting
with the big stuff. Obviously MLB Draft is going well,
it was going down. I think it just ended. Obviously,
big names came off the board for Arizona. Brendan summer
Hill went in the first round and picked forty two,

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followed by Aaron Walton who went one to sixty one,
and then sorry, it's a lot, he.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Went sixty six. Aaron, oh, one sixty one overall.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
So yeah, he was thin, he was acted, yeah, but
he was picked sixty sixty six.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Mason White, obviously we're gonna have his dad coming up
after the next break. He went in the fourth round.
Adonis Guzeman went in the fifth round at one forty four. Sorry,
Mason White went at one eighteen. By the way, if
I skipped over that also Julian Tongini went in the

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seventh round two hundred and first.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Hunter Alberini went in the eleventh round two hundred and
thirty eighth overall. Casey Hintz also was rafted in the
sixteenth round four hundred and eighty second overall, and well
roll got Garaizar went in the eighteenth round five hund

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and forty third overall. And I think the latest one
that Brian oh Man I just lost it. Brian Peterson
just had it. Oh, here we go. Michael Hillker Junior
went to the twins in round twenty and so yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was no, no, continue. I was wondering what happened unless
I missed it was I was listening. Uh the stopper,
the stopper, the closed he would he was not drafted. Yeah,
so it tells you how good you are and you're
still not good enough.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, I mean it's crazy because he had so many
of those accolades and he was the guy. I mean
you have to you'd have to think.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Of American pitch stopp for the year. That's I mean,
And that means nothing, right, I mean, that means nothing.
Just like when people talk to me about basketball and
the numbers and we saw this. I saw this many
years ago with Richard Jefferson. Oh he only had eleven points,
twelve points, and he had this and that it's not
about points, it's not about anything. Looking tell Ruben Douglas
some week. Come, Yeah, he had a ton of points.
He didn't make it because he just scored points. He

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didn't do anything else. Richard Jeferson could play at all,
and he's fine. Look at the now with Carter Bran. Yeah,
the dude didn't have a strong first year. He's just good. Yeah,
and they saw that he's good.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Draft.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, how it's how you and you go to the draft.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
You can have a horrible season, you go to the combine,
combine and you.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Do really well. Guess what, Yeah, that season means nothing. Yeah,
you know, it's crazy. Sticking with the MLB, Alex Vidugo
was cut last week and he hasn't been picked up.
I can't read the whole story, but Greg Hanson talked
about it or wrote an article about it on the

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Daily Star, saying that his MLB career could be over.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
It could be I think that.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, I saw I saw it somewhere else and I
was reading where he got cut by Atlanta, Right, but
Waivers and all that stuff, that maybe San Diego might
be a spot.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Given that they're looking for left handers. And you know,
part of.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
His criticism that he's he didn't hustle. He just didn't hustle,
didn't care. I mean to me, that's what hustle means.
And that was part of the problem, which means crazy
to me. You're getting paid eight, nine, ten million dollars
and you're not hustling.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, we talked about it with eight and two. We
talked about it last effort thing.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's a good point.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Maybe because you've already reached that level and you're getting paid.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Hell what I what do I have to hustle?

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, he became a defensive liability to.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
He was before he was he was he was Yeah,
before he was a decent defensive outfiller. But he struggled
the last couple of years with the Yankees and the
in the Braves just uh, you know, just being able
to track down balls and throwing and so forth.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
He's he's that. I've I've read stories.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
About how does the second rounder with that much potential,
we're thought to be that good?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Turning to that guy six years later or whatever.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Years later, right, and plus he hasn't he's not been
hitting very value. He didn't hit a home run with
the Braves this year, and he was had a few
at bats. But I think it's just the case where
he maybe thought more of what he was than what
he really is because he was in that World Baseball
team with Mexico that did really well. He was he

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signed for a lot of money with the Red Sox
and the and the Yankees.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Now he's back down to earth. Well, let me say
this to you.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
You've covered athletes like me at this level and beyond
how they think they're better than they are or how
many of those have you written about?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Quite a few.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
But yeah, but he's you know, and he is he
is kind of a flashy kind of guy. He's, uh,
he's about image. So this I'm sure it's hard on
him to be go through the kind of palms he's
had the last couple of years. Because he wasn't very
good with the Yankees last year.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
No, no, that's where they got rid of the opinion
a million dollars.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
And and uh the manager of the Yankees, uh boon.
He got a lot of heat for playing defended, especially
late in the year when they had some good prospects
coming up that deserve to play.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
You got a lot of criticism for that.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
I I've dealt with Alex Duo a couple of times,
and I've had good experiences with him.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
He's very humble guy.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
To me.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
His parents are really really good people. I've talked to
both his mom and dad and they both live here.
His moms as the hairstylist, and he comes from a
good family. It's just I think I think it's just
like everything to him was baseball growing up. Everything's you
know how it is with with people young people that

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are groomed to be baseball players or soccer players, what
have you. That's all his life was was baseball. Now
that he's kind of encountered some difficulty, I think it's
kind of hard for him to to grasp it through
and get through it.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, okay, yeah, it's uh, it's tough, but you know,
we'll see what happens. Still, so a lot of baseball
one last time, Yeah, keeping a goin. Though we talked
about Midea Hourrado and who was played on the Spain
Phoeba U eighteen. You're a basketball team and they ended

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up winning gold after they beat Finland eighty one to
seventy two. In that kind of realm as well, we
talked about Sumaya Sugapong and she's playing for the Philippines
and that started this weekend. Didn't do too great yesterday.
I think it was the game they lost to Australia

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one fifteen to thirty nine. But they are set to
face Japan today. Probably already played, just haven't seen a
result for it. But yeah, oh this is pretty cool.
Kind of been a little bit of a talking point
on the show here and there at times. But U
have a extended Caitlin Low and Jim Anderson. They gave

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him next year.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah that was according to U. Saw that too. Did
she have was last the past year? Her last year?
This coming up?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's what That's how I read it. I thought that
she had just finished her last year. No, so she
had one year left.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's reading Kim's story or her social media posted. It
seems like it depends on how they do this year
if they're going to extend it even further.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
But she already had she had her final year.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Still, well, yeah, next year was supposed to be her
last year. Okay, Okay, so she's added on to that.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
One where I was doing the impression she had just
finished her last year, but no, she had one more
year left and they extended her one more.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Year, right, Okay, So I mean it's kind of an
awkward way of doing that because now it's like, Okay,
you're you're good, but we still have to pieve yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, and I still think that that helps a little
in terms of recruiting. Yeah, I'm talking a smidge a
little because you need a coach to be there. I
don't know how much recruiting is anymore because it's all
transfer portal, YadA YadA, that's where you find your people.
But it gives her at least one year wriggle room
to be better at what she did, you know, and
with a new a D. I mean, all these people

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that are here aren't hers, aren't Derays, right.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
And des Ray had a job to do when she
came here to fix a lot of things. And uh,
I think she's in that mode where she wants to
make every program, every every team to her standards. Oh,
no question, And she has that mentality. Yeah, she'll do
whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, well, you've worked for a new boss every now
and again. How's that?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, I would like to say it was good, but yeah,
it's different.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Different.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
You have to you have to hustle, you have to
bust your butt, mister, you know, and saying you transferred.
There's a reason why you're chasing dreams somewhere else for sure, right,
and you know it's just it's a it's that's the
way things are now. True, Like you said, transporport NIL
coaches have to deal with that, they have to deal

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with players leaving and they's almost like you like, you
need a general manager for every support.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, and then that's what they're doing, right.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, So she Kaitlin has a lot of work to do.
I like her. She's been good with us, with media
and so forth. But the results. She went to that
World Series the first year, but hasn't been able to
get back in Arizona judge Arizona softball as judged by
College World just.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Like baseball, just like basketball.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I ran into a guy at the at the out
this weekend and he says, how is basketball going to do?
I said, well, I can't remember the last time I
said they weren't going to do well. But I asked
you this, I ask both of you this. If they
get to the street sixteen, is that good enough?

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Well you know the answer to that because you've been
around the program. I've been around the program before, and
I don't think sweet sixteen is good enough for Arizona.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Not anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I mean, I mean, how many times have they been there?
And how many times have they been beyond it?

Speaker 8 (10:57):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Verifteen six seen with that group here, that's an eternity. Right,
So are you're going to be considered a sweet sixteen
program here?

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
You didn't come here to do see that? Are you?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I guess I did it.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
We've covered up when they got to the title and
then that was that was an operation, the national title. Yeah,
they haven't done it since, and they did it before
and they had a better chance in ninety eight.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Right, we were there again, how'd that go? And you
were there in two thousand and one when they came
with Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, So, but sweet sixteen is not what they're shooting for.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
No, And it's it all depends on the situation too.
So I know, like I hear you guys a lot
when when during the basketball season. So if they get
to the Sweet sixteen. Then that's because they've had some
problems before with like transwers of the Miller and all
that it's acceptable. So now that that Lloyd's been in
the program now for a few years, I don't think

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sweet sixteen is acceptable, and more I think it has
to go to at least the Elite eight, and then
once he gets that Final four, it's like gold, you
got it made.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Right after that, I think also like a fair point
that we saw this year compared to well, I haven't
followed like college basketball for a very long time, but
you have not no, okay, but like what I saw
this year compared to the last couple or a few
years was that, you know, no, no one's happy that
we lost like that Arizona lost to Duke, but it
was like, okay, lot, you got out in the sweet sixteam,

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but it was because you played Duke, right, and you know,
kind of having to go into like a really like
a super duper tough at a conference schedule, do you
think it like if it affects the seating in a
way where something similar happens where it's like, I don't know,
you play obviously not like a Houston or something like that,
but like another duke, like you know, one of those
like big teams, kind of big names. Does that make

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it like lessen the blow.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'll give you this example.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
So two years ago, the they're a pretty good number
two seats right to go to Hugh san Antonio. I
think it was lose to Houston, the number four seed.
I think they thought they were better than Houston.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Houston's pretty damn good though, and beat them and man
handle them pretty much, right, Okay, so that was kind
of like, oh, this is what we need to do
to move on. In sweet sixteen, they go play Clemson,
you're thinking, okay, we got this and there were two
whatever seed, three seeds whatever against the eight seed or whatever,
and you're thinking you lose there. To your point, right,
you don't expect that to happen. So you're thinking that's

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not good. That was that was not good. So now duke,
you're playing duke this year in sweet sixteen, there were
one two whatever, Arizonas whatever they are, and you had
they not come back, had they not come back from
that deficit that they were at and made it a
good showing, then you would have had your issues because
it turned out to be a feel good season one
for Caleb because he was taking heat and then he

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played fantastic in last month and kind of redeemed himself, right,
and so did the team. But had they not played
well to close out that Duke game, you're.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Thinking, I don't know, but how many thoughts like that
are going to come up with, like like playing such
great teams? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, at some point it's uh, you right, Yea. Halvey
and I have been have been the beneficiaries of pretty
good years of the program.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
That's who they think they are. How am I?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's what they think they are. They're gonna tell me
that they're blue blood? Are they blue blood?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
No? No, we've talked about this.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's my point. But you the people who are making
or saying this think that.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Right, they're not. So there's some there's some inconsistency.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
There, right, And they're the you're a blue blood when
you make consistent final four appearances and you're you've already
establshed yourself as a national championship comp program, that's where
you're blue blood. Arizona won a national title. They went
to four final fours underlud Olsen, but what's happened since then,
and so it's as it hasn't carried over, it hasn't

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carried through the years to be a blue blood.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
So you understand, Yeah, I know you're question is more
of a rhetorical you know the answer to the question.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
I'm just kind of verifying it.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, So but if they get to the sweet
sixteen and don't and have a chance to with a
better team, right and don't get there, yeah, then you.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Have some issues again like the Clemson situation.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, I have to see.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I guess, well, this year they should you you would
think the talent they have on the court, they should
make it to the Final four this year.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Right, Well you think that, but someone asked me about
that two over the weekend. This is Uh, they're good,
but guess what, there's other programs on the programs. Yeah,
you may be the best dude on your street, huh,
but there's a lot of streets out there.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Right, And Arizona wasn't in ninety seven, they weren't the
best there, weren't they won the Final four? Right, this
is on paper, this is the best team, but on
paper they don't play correct. And if they did in
Arizona will probably have like four or five national championships.
But it doesn't work that way. It has to be
with luck. Who you who you play against, You're who
has a hot hand.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Maybe like injuries, injury.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
With Gilbert's injury and Luke's injury in the final game,
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Speaker 2 (21:30):
Hey, welcome back to the ball Here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty, I'm Steve Rivera and today with me ish
you Morales. Now one the phone, we have Ben White,
the father of Mason White.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Ben, how are you, dam I'm doing great.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
How are you guys? Well?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Fine? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Then me, just before I start, could you adopt me?
Maybe i'd turned into a chick of a baseball player.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yeah, right, You think I had anything to do with success?
You got another thing coming.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You're talented from a talented family. How was today for
the family?

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Oh? Man, I'm a novice as to this, you know,
I'm a dad in the stands, and it was. It's
very stressful because it's nothing is predictable. You know. We
had a lot of I had some talks with friends
of mine who had had kids that had gone. Buddy
of mine had to kick go in the first round
a couple of years ago, and he told me, he goes.
There's not a lot of structure. It happens quickly and

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it's it's kind of all over the place. And that's
how it was between last night and today. There's a
lot of sitting around and staring at each other and
wondering what's going to happen, and then when it does happen,
it just goes very quick. So we're we're just super thankful,
you know, to the Red Sox organization and and and
the fact that he got off the board as early
as he did, it was great.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Did you guys have any communication with the Red Sox
scouts or or front office people. I'm always curious about that. Yeah,
you know when their players picked, like how many interactions
they have with that team. You know.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
The way that that works is, at least for us,
is the you know, our Mason's advisor handles all of that.
There's a ton of that going on behind the scenes.
But as you know, for the dads that are listening,
if you have a kid that's going to get drafted,
you sit there and you wait for the phone to ring,
and the phone is going to be your advisor telling

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you this is what's happening, and it's going to happen
the next forty seconds, so get ready. I think for
guys that there might be some negotiation on slot value
and that kind of thing, so you might see some
conversations about that, but that was outside of our experience. Again,
I'm a novice first time through this. I was never drafted,

(23:43):
so there was a lot. There was a big wording curve,
but the phone call has come through the advisor and
you just sit there and hope for the best.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So was the family was was he at the house?
Were you guys together and got the call?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, both of Mason's grandmothers were here, and my dad,
his grandpa, and his brother, me and his girlfriend and
which it was. It was pretty small and pretty quiet.
There's no camera crews or anything like that, but it was.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
It's just it's a surreal process, especially when you start
seeing kids come off the board that you've known, you know,
you've played club ball against him since they were thirteen
years old, and who he went in the first, he
went in the second, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right as a dad, you know, I have a son
who played college soccer and and that was fantastic for me.
I'm sure this is just one of those moments and
not that I'm gonna ask you to see if you
tear it up at all. But it's one of those
problem moments for you, because come on, I mean, you
raised the sun. You probably played a lot of I
spent a lot of time with him with the fielding
ground balls and then throwing pitch to him and stuff

(24:50):
like that.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Yeah, you guys obviously follow You followed his career. You
followed the you know, chips teams. The last three years,
there have been lots of those moments washing them walk
Oregon stayed off to win the pack. I mean picture
picture that being picture your kid on the you know,

(25:12):
on the field for that that in the Supers taken
care of North Carolina and that was him getting that
base hit. I mean there was, there were there in
everything in Ovaha is just crazy. But this is this
is like the bookend on the amateur career. And you know,
obviously I've been there since the since the get go.
And yeah, I mean, you're gonna get emotional, and I

(25:34):
learned though that's all right. It's just it's gonna happen.
And uh, I think for a parent to get to
see your kid do what he loves up close and
then succeed, I've been fortunate enough to see that quite
a bit in the last three years and in high school,
and I never ever took that for granted. That was

(25:55):
always something special.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Right when we were talking about this earlier, one of
the best parts of the College World series was when
on TV they interviewed you and your dad, Tim Mason's grandfather.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I mean that that that's something that you'll always remember.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
A lot of you of A fans remember that, just
talking about the three generation aspect that doesn't happen very often,
especially at a high level like that. Talk about how
meaningful that is to you guys.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Yeah, I think the Halfes were the first one to
do that. If I recall, yeah, when when when Mason
ended up at the u of A with Chip and
I and that was brought up. I never even thought
about it. But to be sitting picture again, all the dads,
if you're listening picture, you're sitting in Omaha with your
dad watching your kid, and ESPN sitting next to you

(26:44):
with a camera interviewing about it. It's it's it's just surreal.
And the fact that my dad has been able to
watch his entire career and be involved even throwing VP
and helping him when he was. You know when when
we were out at we were out at the Cornatt
a little league before they the name of it years ago,
and it's just the three of us out there hitting

(27:04):
or you know, taking ground balls. I mean lucky. He
doesn't describe it, you know, blessed, doesn't describe it. And
to be able to share that with my entire family
through this whole process, and especially for Mason because he's
a family guy, he's a he's a kind of a
private family guy. And it's been, uh, it's just been.

(27:25):
It's been such a blessing.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
So how your covers the little league scene and the
high school scene and all that stuff. But I'm wondering,
and I'll ask you how to Uh, Ben, at some
point you had to say, hey, my son's pretty good.
And every father thinks that of their son. But but
you know, when you see something, right, did you see
something at a certain age you said that? Because let
me too, that kid of yours doesn't get cheated on swings.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
He just doesn't.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
Yeah, I could. There's lots of examples, some with my
wife early on. They wanted to, you know, they wanted
to put him and take it. I don't know how
old you are like six or seven, you come out
of T ball and right, you know, this kid probably
ought to be an a ball not whatever it was.
And I remember one of the one of the league
officials said, yeah, yeah, we all think our kid is
really good. And I remember my wife being like, okay, seriously,

(28:16):
and they took a look at him and they bumped
him up. I would say, early on when he learned
how to pull the ball with power, and that's what
I always tried to instill in him because what was
instilled in me is you've got to be able to
hit the ball, hopefully out of the ballpark. That's what
That's what gets people to recognize who you are. And

(28:37):
you know, when he was eleven years old, he had
had twenty seven home runs a little league and he
was half the size of me at the times tiny
we had like ninety pounds. And that's when I started
to go, Wow, this kid, Okay, there's there's effort, was
power there, and it's kind of what you see now
with being able to again. He takes his tacks, there's
no questions. But we instilled him a long time go that,

(29:00):
don't you know, do not get cheated. And I'll blame
some of this on George Arias because I handed him
off to George when he was thirteen. I recognized that
Mason had probably passed what I could help him with
because he was just an advanced level hitter. But I
knew somebody that could help him, and George wanted him.
So he got to go down there and play with
George and George's son Nick with the Chance. And George

(29:24):
is another one of those those power hitters that doesn't
get cheated at the plate, never did, so it's part
it's partially George's fault.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well before so I was assuming too that he played
up a lot. And then I say this, and I
said this all my life. You play up, you get
your butt kicked, you get you you have to learn
how to get defeated, but you get better.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah. Yeah, I would say one thing with when when
he was playing with with George with that Chance team,
which locally was was very very good. You had Isaiah
Jackson was on that team. Uh Tito was on that team.
There's a bunch of really good players and they they
played in their age group, but they played at the
national level. They would play in some of the bigger

(30:08):
perfect Game events, when I think those have changed over time.
But you go to a national level WWBA event and
you're gonna see some guys that can really play. You're playing,
you're playing up, you're playing outside of your comfort zone.
And I do credit taking Mason to some of the
showcases that were on the national level, and it allowed
him to see, this is his idea, not mine. But

(30:30):
I got to write the check and drive the drive
the bus. Right, you had to go and go, Wow,
who's that guy? Who's that guy? He's better than you,
isn't he. Yeah, he's bigger, he stronger, he's faster, so
you better work harder. And I think that that really
clicked with Mason when he was thirteen fourteen years old
and then going to going to South Point and being

(30:51):
in a being in a program that treats kids closer
to what a Division one level program treats kids like
really made it grow up quick. So I don't know
there was that that that kind of thing. Playing up
definitely helps, but he played up with his team on
a national level, which really helped.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Now, you were a pitcher at the U of A
and he's he's a left handed batter, right, so was
he did he ever did he ever try pitching, you know,
as a lefty or it was always strictly position player
batting with him.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
Yeah, you know, I mean every every parent out there
that has a kid that is playing baseball or softball,
they if they're if they're good, they probably pitch right
because they've got a good arm. And it was about
when about when he was thirteen. I I hope it
was a wise decision. I don't know, but I saw
his future was probably up the middle in the dirt

(31:45):
and not on the mound. I mean, he's he's not
Smith Bailey, right, Him and Smith don't look anything alike.
And I asked George, I actually asked George, Hey, did
we not put him on the mound anymore? And he
was like, yeah, sure, we don't want to. If you
want to do it, don't do it. And part of
it was to save the arm, because always there's always

(32:05):
so many bullets in the gun, right, Yeah, you see
a lot of kids with a lot of arm trouble
these days. But the idea was to get him off
the mound and just concentrate on, you know, whatever, if
it was going to be center field or if it
was going to be it kind of looked like short
you know, the whole time. And that was to concentrate
on that and not take away from the swings because

(32:26):
as a as a pitcher, I actually hit my sophomore
year under JK. They brought me out of retirement and
I hit for about half the year on that ninety
four team and did Okay. I got some basis, but
I would hit m pitch in the same game, and
that's just that's that's impossible, impossible to do at this
level for most of us.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
So you you've talked about this a few times now,
maybe through or three times, talking about parents or dads
who have kids like this. I'm sure you got a
lot of questions from some of the dudes. Some of
your friends are colleagues who know who you are and ask,
you know, how can I make my son better?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Do you do you at all?

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Yeah? I could, you could name name a question. It's
probably come that way because there's everybody I think wants
to look for that that magic yea. And again not
to not to overstate you know, Mason's ability or anything
like that, but he's obviously had a good career and
he's you know, on the brink of, you know, signing

(33:22):
a professional contract. I can tell you that there's nothing
that Mason wants to do more than hit baseball's and
it's been that way since he consistence. He could walk,
get good instruction, take time off. Though the fire in
the belly doesn't go away. But I see a lot now,

(33:42):
is yeah? I mean right, we see you can play
all year round in the sun in the Sunbelt. If
you're in Minnesota, you probably can't. But look on look
on Ship's team right now. Look how many of those
kids are from Chicago or from Minnesota and they play
and they're good. Is there a correlation to having to
take some time off? I'm not like, I'm not sure

(34:03):
if Brendan and Easton and those guys had to, but
they were, they were old climates. Take time off, get
good instruction, don't take it too seriously until it's time
to take it seriously.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I wanted to ask you about Chip Hale. He touched
on it.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
These Midwestern guys who probably weren't highly recruited, that you
would think was Mason highly recruited coming out a cell point.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
It was the.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Uh oh, it's funny, I hear, I hear everybody in
the press saying that he wasn't recruited right nowhere to
go and Shoop was the only you know, there were
lots of other places to go. There were lots of
scholarship offers around. It was just not not the right one.
I mean, we talked about Oregon, Washington. Washington offered him.

(34:49):
Then they renigged the next day. That was fun. That
was a lot of fun. So you had some offers
out there, but was never quite right. And his dream was,
I mean to go to some We're big, go to
an A s U, go to a U c l A,
go to a U of A, and then perfect storm.
He talked to Jay, Well, anybody knows this. He talked

(35:10):
to Jay Tuesday at the area code tryouts. I believe
it was Jay took off on Wednesday to go to LSU.
He was that fast, and Dave had seen him, and
Dave kind of passed that off to Chip and Dave,
I mean, Dave Long is a huge reason to why
Mason got to the U of A. Dave really kept
that in a couple of weeks between when when when

(35:33):
Jay took off and Chip got hired. Dave was carrying
the water and he a fantastic job. He's a great guy, right,
and he got that, he got us in content. He
actually we were we were at a we were a
different tournament with Dane in San Diego. Mason was here
by himself, went down to high corbet and hung out
with Dave. That's really where it started. But he was

(35:53):
he had his opportunities. He just didn't have the right
opportunity until Chip came along and then that just the
stars aligned and boom, that was it.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
Well, how big was it for him to play for
Chip Hill and damelow? Right, Demelo is the hitting coach, right, yeah,
toll me sure?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
How much did that help him in the last three
years to get to where he's at now?

Speaker 6 (36:16):
Uh? I think it was tremendous. Now, Mason's a self
starter and nobody's harder on him than himself. And I
don't think anybody spends more time in the cage than
he does. But I know, Chip, I wish you guys
could talk to Mason ask him the same question, because
he would have a lot of really positive things to
say about all of those guys, not just as coaches,

(36:36):
but maturing you as a as a man and as
a as a student. Obi Obi was very helpful. Tip
obviously treats those guys. I think to some degree like
it's a professional organization, you know, different than some other
places I've heard parents I know that that are in

(36:57):
other points. It's it's it's different than it is at
Arizona and you're seeing that that success. But Crip Couch
we tripped it in the business forever and Crip is
another very very influential respected kid in their guy in
Mason's in Mason's sphere. So all of the coaches staff,

(37:17):
even Kevin Vance. I mean Kevin Advance a pitching coach,
but Kevin knows a lot of baseball and he was
very helpful. Bad to see him go, but I don't
know how you're ever going to, you know, keep him.
He was a great coach. So what's next, I don't know, Uh,
probably some sort of phone calls tonight and everything. And

(37:39):
Mason's been in touch with the Red Sox a little bit.
They had to get through the draft. It just concluded
what maybe thirty minutes ago, I saw Rawul got picked up.
That's fantastic. If you guys are watching that, there's a
bunch of a bunch of our guys there at the end.
It came on which the.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, well it's a fun thing about this.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Yeah, you know, it's it's been, it's been fantastic. I
think we just have to see the next few days
are gonna be busy for Mason and then probably I
don't know, either go to Florida or Boston or whatever
you do, probably to the complex in Fort Myers, right,
and you gotta sign and probably do physical stuff. And
again I've never been through it, so I'm kind of
a I'm a passenger on this bus, you know, well.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Not a bad place to be a passenger, and my
adoption is still available, just yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm not a self starter though, so unscrewed. Thanks Ben,
appreciate your great great Yeah, a lot of fun. Ben White,
Mason's dad. So that's uh, that's cool, that's good. I mean,
come on, we have sons. I played the game, and
you always you dream of it, but think about it.
You dream of it, but you don't know how how
difficult it is to get there. Look, we talked about

(38:53):
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can be a stunt, yeah, yeah, and you can end
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Speaker 2 (43:13):
Hey, welcome back to Y on the Ball here on
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Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'm Steve Rivera. You're Jay. You're not Jay? You're Hobier.
J Jay's Javier too, but he calls himself Jay G.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, you call himself late for dinner and we got ready. Yep, Okay,
Hey Gay, great, great stuff. He's a really good dude.
You can tell he's just a good dude.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Oh, Ben, Ben White, Yeah, he was a good dude
when he was back at the uf A playing that
whole team that ninety three ninety four there, they had
a lot of good dudes. Georg Darius is on a teammate,
It sure was Ericson. Erickson was more of the eight
late eighties.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
That's when they're really good, right, and he were good too.
He worked his butt off with his arm, right, Yeah,
rode his arm.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
But yeah, he played for Jerry Kendall and Ben White
did and Jerry Stitt and I'm sure you've had Jerry
said on your show, yeah, number of times down to Earth.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
He is very smart, very smart man. That program at
that point was just very good to be around.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
So if you're going to talk about blue bloods, baseball's
blue blood Yeah, yeah, it's not even a question.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Baseball and softball, Yeah, baseball, softballs they got to get
it going again. Baseball, Yeah, they just won the champions
only thirteen years ago. They went to the World Series.
But if there's a if U c l A is
a blue blood softball? Yeah, oh yeah, eight championships. Yeah,
they got the basically the John Wooden of no question,
and that's what it takes to be a blue blood.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I think it was on his basketball I people think
I rag on him there. I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It's a very good program, but there's a difference. I
mean it's between an eight and ten and it's it's
one of the best programs in the nation.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
I think we got to with that. We gotta Hello,
you're on the air and one on the ball. Who's this.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
Vic?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
We lost you the first time? What's up?

Speaker 20 (44:54):
No worry. I just wanted to Hey, Vic, I.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Haven't seen you in so long. Do you haven't mentioned I'm.

Speaker 20 (45:00):
Here man to you?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Vict? Do you have a house here? Because you're always
at the Bullparks.

Speaker 20 (45:07):
I love it, man, And that's one of the reasons
why I called uh talking about, you know, the attendance
and stuff at the games. Yeah, you know, I'm getting
up there too, and it's Steve. It's a it can
be hard to get to these games. Even the high
school games in California, I had a CIF pass, but

(45:27):
here you got to fork over five seven bucks every
single game you go to. And uh, and the Arizona
games are obviously much more when you go and party
and everything else. And and even my daughter went to
the Dodger game the other day and he said, Dad,
and I hate to tell you, but I think I'd
rather stay home and watch it on TV. And she's thirty.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, no, no, let me tell you. Tell me.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
You go to a Uba game, you go to tailgate,
You go at least two three hours before, right, it's
a little hot, whatever, you gotta find part king, whatever
that costs, you go to the tailgate. If you decide
to stay at the game, you go into the game
for another two to two and a half hours. If
you don't stay the whole game, that's three three and
a half hours, and then you have to go to
the car parking and parking parking, and then you have
to wait. My own thing is I'm not a very

(46:14):
patient man to get out of the damn party.

Speaker 20 (46:16):
Yeah, and then and then probably go eat after the
game somewhere or whatever, or sure get home and make something.
It's a it's a It's a tough project.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Man, especially when the game start project.

Speaker 20 (46:29):
But I I and then you know, like just like
in l A, I used to bag on everybody like
not going to UCLA games all my us, LA buddy,
But that's even a bigger project. That's a two hour
drive to Westwood and everything else. And then you know what,
see songs the same as La.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
It's a transplant town, right.

Speaker 20 (46:53):
I was talking to this girl at the gym about
my daughters this morning, and she didn't know who Jenny
Finch was, right, But she's a stands plant And I'm like,
oh my god, how do you not know how Jenny
Pinch is? But that's you know, that's how how how
it goes with with Tucson but that he is probably
number one in your list, man.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
No question, especially now. I mean, come on, who's gonna
want to be miserable at a baseball game just with nobody?

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Oh? Big time?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
But have you?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And I went because we had to, we had to
go cover the game. We sat in a press box,
had a press box. Yeah, it's it's it is It
is a factor. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a
serious factor. It has to there has to be some
entertainment value.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
And a reason go.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
No, even though it's hot, you have to have some
kind of a reason to be there. And with with
triple A you have like major leaguers that former major
leaguers or players that are about to be in the
big leagues.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
That was kind of a draw, I.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Think though, real quick, have your did not interrupt you,
But you go for the entertainment, not so much the baseball,
because the baseball is baseball, right, But you go to
you take your family out, have a meal, have a
so whatever, and VIC, why do you go?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Come on, you're you're single. Did you go watch what?

Speaker 9 (48:05):
Or?

Speaker 20 (48:06):
I love the game obviously, and my you know, my
kids played, and I can't get it out of my system.
And and now I've latched on to my cousin here
at Mike. She's a big time but player, and I
love to go to see all her games. And and
then I know all the tooth on high people, So
I go to all those games and I watched. I

(48:27):
want to see how Vier do his thing writing. It's
exciting and stuff out there. He's at every game under
the book.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, yeah, okay, because.

Speaker 20 (48:37):
If I didn't go, I wouldn't go either.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
You got other people to follow. I just don't tell you.
I just don't tell you my schedule. I don't want
you to stoking.

Speaker 20 (48:47):
Hey, but real quick that that that mister white guy
was super humble. That that was a great interview. Once again,
I hate to keep giving you propsy, but you're having
some good dudes on there. That that was pretty cool.
I listened to it. Some of the stories he told
me or told reminded me of when my girls were
going through it, and that was awesome because you know,

(49:09):
we lived in East LA and we had to drive
to Orange County and in an empire to play, and.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
That was cool.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I was gonna say, and this might be a dumb question,
you can answer it if you know. Did you think
when you took your your kids or your girls to
Orange County that they treated them differently?

Speaker 20 (49:28):
Oh heck yeah. I'll tell you one time, our first
go around with Batbusters, which is a national team, this
six foot blondie we were fourteen years old, and she
turned to my daughter and said where are you from?
And my daughter said, East LA?

Speaker 6 (49:44):
Where it was right there.

Speaker 20 (49:46):
That I think Caavier or mister White said it. I'm like,
you better go home. And start hitting jack because you
got to you got a long way to go right.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Right, and that's how you get better. You can realize almost.

Speaker 20 (49:57):
Improve, Yeah for sure. But but that was a great interview.
And man, I'm gonna roof for that kid.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Like all, yeah, it's hard not to especially local. Yeah okay, yeah,
thank you, big.

Speaker 20 (50:10):
Okay, we'll see you guys later.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Take care of.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
See you at a ballpark near you or little Mexico
chasing women?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You employing that I do that? How big? Okay?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
We always tease each other wells following you have.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Your Yeah, he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, you're not there, You're not.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Mexico. Always till we got about it two minutes.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
You know, it doesn't say that we have a break
right now.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
It's weird. It says just the end of these end
of these hour. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
No, it's like it's like you know how it has
like little things. Yeah, it doesn't show. It just shows
the next show.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
We're we're naked in terms of time. Well, let's just
go off and that's the regular fifty five or whatever
it is. Yea cool, okay, he good, Thanks for getting
Ben White for me. Yeah, we'll be back because you
get to you have to go back to work.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Yeah, well we got Yeah, the teaching comes up next
week and then high school football football, so I'll get Yeah,
some coaches.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
You want to come in and host the show. For
those guys, that's be fun. Can get them. I can
get them on the show and you can use the interviews.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Ray.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
You'll be back on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, I'm also going back to work.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
You're going back to it after you go see you
at works, We see you work your magic.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Yeah, man, I make decent drinks.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
So tomorrow, tomorrow we get one. One is back in town,
so we'll reminisce with one. I call him mister Goody
two Shoes, which is translates about the same thing. All right,
let's go, let's go. Thanks everybody for listening. We'll see
you guys tomorrow. We have a couple of great guests.
So we'll end it here.