Monday, July 21, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
By good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports
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to get fined calling sick tomorrow and Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now, come on, Dave, what's up day? Find something well?
Just to talk about.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Well, that's our mission for this week. This is five
good days of radio. That's two witch, pressure man, let's
do it. Pressure Dave Silver, you remember that voice? Yes, right, yeah,
welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You could say I don't want to be there anymore
at any time, and I want to tell you that
one it looks bad at your resume.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
This okay, Hey, welcome everybody. It's Monday, which means I
don't know what the hell I want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Did you probably have a lot of stuff on breaking news,
but we could break it anyway. Yeah, yeah, Tucson didn't
have a good day yesterday or the weekend? Who Tucson?
What did I missed? You missed the Shooter Skulls getting
beat out of the playoffs, So that season's over seams
over FC two Son lost yesterday. They're out. Seasons over

(01:24):
didn't just start. That's what I thought. How many games play?
That's good. Questions about fourteen to fifteen?

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I think it was just twelve league and then you have.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I guess, yeah, we we had Pearlman on last week.
But I had talked about that with you guys when
we went through the game. What two weeks ago or
a week last weekend? Yeah, And I said, God to me,
last year it seemed like you went it to September.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
I remember you talking with Sebastian about that.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, and then it was just over right now in
mid July quick one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So well, and they did fairly well comparatively. I mean, well,
last year they won the title. This year they were
in the final four?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Is that right? Was it the set or quarters?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah? I think I might have been quarters ords. Yeah,
so you know, pretty good.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Still.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I think there were like thirteen and five ish fro there.
You know, it's a dog day's Dave. You know that
dog days summer when you were doing your TV gig
and looking all nice and and makeup, be wearing shorts,
wearing shorts on the underneath the desk. Oh, yeah, did
you just take off the summer?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
No, no, no, we would we would sort of try
to come up with stories like I think we've talked
this about this before, where you know, these are the
these are the times when you can do stories that
you know you wouldn't have time to do when it
really gets busy during basketball and football seasons and stuff,
kind of the you know, the bread and butter of
Tucson sports from what really August through yeah, May basically,

(02:46):
you know, so you have these few months where you
know he's kind of looking around and you can tell
when you just look at coverage of what's what you
see in local media.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
You know, not not a lot of you.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Know, tough tough stories post them or featuri and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Sure. Sure.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
In fact, I was talking to you right before we
started the show. There was a good column and I
can't remember who wrote it, but some are somewhere out there.
He's probably a kid, and everyone's a kid now to me.
But he talked about how the big conferences, you know,
how the Big twelve Conference and they have the SEC
Conference and excuse me, big ten conferences having their media days,

(03:22):
right some one day two days, three days, So I
guess somebody went four days.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
How boring could that be? God to stretch them out? Yeah,
so and you know what you get?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, nothing, Well, when you get these conferences that have
like twenty teams and you do need to have like
three days at least just to get stuck something. And
there were a few headlines, but you know, the kind
of the typical stuff that you didn't really need to
necessarily be there for if you could just watch it
on you know, some feed or watch it on ESPN
or ESPNU or whoever's showing things in the same way
with the Big Twelve a couple of weeks ago, I
mean you basically you saw Brett Brannan get up there

(03:53):
and a couple of players got up there, and that's
pretty much it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's pretty much it.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, unless you went, like you know, justin when I
went for twenty five years, and I firmly believed that
the citizen paid, so I didn't give a crap.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
But it was what it was.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was the noebook tailler for you know, the special
sections and things like that, for stuff that you know,
you hope you got, uh and maybe a possible one
on one, but It's the one thing about it is
there's less media, yeah, going to these events unless you
have the podcasters who kind of are just happy to
be there.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Well, I do remember that because we would do preseason
specials as well on television, and that's kind of where
we would gather that information or those materials, those interviews
that you get in July and they air, you know,
August thirtieth, right before the first game.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
So that was kind of a good thing to have
access to for us.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
And but by you sided that by the time that
special came out, didn't you already they had already written
about it four or five times?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
True?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
True, it was, it was but you know, you don't
know who's always watching every you know, from night to night.
And here we could promote, hey, we're gonna have one
hour long you know, preview of the UFA basketball season,
and you'd have you know, interviews with some of the
top coaches or players you kind of you know, had
in your in your back pocket for a month or so.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
No, And that's that's how it was with Bruce and
I when we covered it together forever. We had to
master the saving the quote stuff, yeah for later for
stories we were going to do later because we wouldn't
get them again for another month.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, you know, I mean again kind of watching from
a distance nowadays, you know, you see the stories about
arch manning the SEC media days and you know Texas
is going to be fantastic. I mean, those kind of
headlines come out. But you know, again, those are things
that anybody could get just because you're watching a feed.
But those are the stories that come out of those
media days these.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Days, right right, and you're hoping for the one on ones,
but it's very rare now, very rare.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Some of the same subjects, the conference realignments, the college
football playoff situation, how many teams are going to be
in it.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's going to change after this year.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Apparently there's going to you know, probably at least twelve
as opposed to the eight that it's been.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
So Yeah, one of the things that one of the
observations made was that the big get twelve and it's
Commissioner Brett you orma mec was very strategic and very
bright in what he did because he was the first
one out of the gate, took all the luster out
of the some news that was coming out. Let's CEFP
blah blah blah yah, And I was out front with

(06:13):
a lot of things where the everybody else had to
catch up.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well the big thing too, you guys probably talked about
it last week was the international flavor of the Big
twelve that's coming, where a lot of games are going
to be going, oh yeah, into different countries and things
like that, because eventually some of the things I saw
just you know, not being here.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah. No, Yeah, we didn't really hit on that heavily.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Not too much. We mentioned it a little bit, but yeah,
it's not too much. Yeah, it was an interesting thing for.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Sure, right, If anything, that may have been one of
the more newsy type of things out there.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But we'll see.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
We're about two weeks away from well maybe ten days
away from first practice for U of A, right, hopefully.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I mean there was.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, again, just to go back on that last subject,
headline for the Big twelve websites is Big twelve Conference
to establish Big twelve Mexico. They're gonna play women's hoops
games down there.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Say does it say where there's a difference in Mexico
City in Nogals.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I think they were talking about establishing a football game
in Modterey, Mexico.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, next year, I have no idea, but it's just
the next.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Are Yeah, but yeah, no, I mean, and it's cool
about that because like Monterey, Mexico actually has one of
the best football like college football programs in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Funny enough, they have a college football program. Yeah, who
do they play?

Speaker 7 (07:37):
They so I forget what that university or like college
is called, but they play UNAM, which is actually the
oldest university like in like I think the world, Like
I think it opened like in the fifteens or something
like that. Really Yeah, and then poly Technical, both of
those are in Mexico City also has a football team.

(07:58):
There's there's a few, like like college football team as well.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
They have leagues.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
I guess they have leagues because of you of a
grad at one point played down there.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, the one of the long snappers, now there was.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
I mean, I'm looking at the same article. I think
they need to do some editing here.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
But because it mentions five currents and future Big Twelve
Conference campuses are within four hundred miles of the border,
and it doesn't include Arizona Arizona States, so maybe they
forgot that we're in the conference. I mean we're the
closest I would think to Mexico, right, I think it
entered with Baylor, Houston, TCU, Texas. There are all these
Texas schools. I forgot that. Yeah, maybe this was written

(08:30):
last year. Yeah, but it should be updated. That's funny.
That's probably a standard. It's it is it story? Yeah,
but it's an old it's dated. But anyway, yeah, yeah, okay,
Big twelve Beyond Borders.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It should be interesting. Leespianel almost let's go cover that game.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
I'll do it. I'd love it to meet a chica. Yeah, yeah,
you know, go.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
To where We've got to go to Cabo with Dave.
I'm going there. You go with us. Well, hey, you
are a discount just kept for the room.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
They got one of those pull out cats beds.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
H Look, they turned down Big twelve turned down Memphis.
Apparently that Memphis wanted to try to get into the conference.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You don't need no stinking penny hardaway and we don't
sticking Memphis. It's good the way it is right now
until someone else wants to join. And anyway, in five
more or sixty more years, we're going to go to
a four or area.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Grouping.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Just all the conferences West combined with East each other,
Midwest Beast?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Is there a is there a West? I guess West?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well you can establish one to decide off Kansas or Colorado.
The pack that's you know what, in essence, that's what
it would be because that's all the good schools.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Anyway, it was a big power force power force. Who
owed you include that wouldn't be a pack twelve school? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Basketball, but yeah, I mean be stuff. I mean I
don't know the three alignments.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Well, anybody want to call add to the story, let
me tell you the schedule today. No guest at three fifteen,
three seventeen, because well it's July and everyone's gone.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Don't they have telephones wherever they are?

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
They do.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
But hey, I'm sorry, I'm a vacation. I can't talk
to you with the wife. And at four seventeen we're
gonna have TJ. Just course I haven't had TJ on
in a while. Talk about what's going on with the
El tour. We're about four months away and maybe tour
the to the fronts and maybe some of the dignitaries

(10:38):
are to be coming here for the ride. Stuff like that.
You know that the registration is pretty pretty good.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Is it open?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, it's over three months now. Got to go close
to four thousand people?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Wow? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Did they top it off with some number? No, they
can just go to like the twenty thousand raiders.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, but I won't do that. They have nine ten.
That's where we're at right now. Yeah, typically the last
two years.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, because the new routes, new ownership stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah yeah, nine ten, new roads, new roads.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, they're working on him now we have to change
the course and well he'll talk about all that stuff.
I wanted to talk to you about that when you
first come on or when he first comes on, because
I think you're your time here is as old as
the tour.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
So I think that's when it started, right, do you remember?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well? Yeah, I mean it was kind of like what
is this?

Speaker 4 (11:29):
You know, when it got bigger and bigger, and then
we got somehow the TV station got involved with it,
so we were able to do a couple of specials.
Somehow we did live shows, like on that Saturday we
had live trucks set up around town and how times
have changed and somehow got it on the air and.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I was I was got here in eighty seven, maybe
eighty eight had to be eighty seven, eighty eight. I
thought I was an internet in the Star in eighty
five when they put me on a helicopter and we'd
back then paper paper results and things like that. That
they would take me in the helicopter to the front,

(12:05):
to the end and deliver the results to the paper.
Oh my, yeah, just to get them in the in
the afternoon paper that day.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well, I remember the next day the Star would have
huge higher things.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah it was the section special Section.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Sponsors, special section, and that had you know whatever nine
right where they finished.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I get right.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
It was huge.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, like in the day. Uh, the papers are tough
to come by now those pages are very expensive, but.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
The results are probably easier to come by. Oh yeah, instantly,
And they are and they are instant. Everybody's got a
QR code probably on their jersey, and sure wherever.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
They think, exactly that, exactly that. Well, you know, terms
have changed forty two years later. Does this film forty
two years for you?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't even try to think about it, but it's
been I go, wow, it's been a long time.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
That was a baby.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
You were just hoping to get to ESPN.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Whoops, that was good that, I mean, those are those
are here?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
We are talking about it still, you know those are
pretty good memories.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, things that happened in those years.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
We'll talk a little about the Summer League. It's over,
right finally, Yes, the champions the time Charlotte, Charlotte the Hornet.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
They won't win any more games after this.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
You haven't been in the playoffs in like ten years
or so much. Actually saw some of that last night
for some reason. It was on really late.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
They're playing The King's Desperate Housewives was not not on
Sunday night, And this is on.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Love Island's over.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Have you gone onto the Island yet? I haven't.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I watched the commercials and said, this is stupid, really popular. Yeah,
because people like that, you know what the hell like that?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well? Well, well, I guess we'll talk about that later.
Let's take a break. We're going to talk a little
about the Summer League. You have have some stuff on
your screen I'm curious about. So let's take a break
and come back. Now.

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Speaker 1 (19:00):
This is Eye on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen
finding I want to take part in the show Call
up Steve now went five to two oh four one
seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
He be welcome back to Why I'm about here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera or Dave silver
got Ray at the controls. We're take any calls here
in the first hour if you'd like to talk and
see what's going on with your world and hoops.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
But you had some stuff on, Let's go to Richard
Jefferson first. Yeah, Richard Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
You know he's been broadcasting and doing quite well, kind
of moving up the ladder he's been doing the uh
you know, the he did the NBA Finals for ABC ESPN,
and there was some talk that he might be going
to one of the other outlets that are picking up
basketball next year, including you know, Peacock, NBC is coming
back into the game, and Amazon. But he's gonna stay
with ESPN. Is the lead analysts. Well, that's kind of

(19:52):
what he had been. And Doris Burke, they're not quite
sure what they're gonna do. There was some talk about
her and maybe not even continuing and going somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
She has not signed on just yet.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's kind of up in the air, but he has uh,
he's not He has not yet signed either. But according
to The Athletic, he's gonna stick stick around with with
Mike Breen.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
And so is Charles Barkley and the rest of the
guys are going to ESPN right moving.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The show there, they're moving that that, you know, the
inside the end. I don't know, I'm I'm going to
talk crazy, but do you watch that show? To the
NBA guys, they're kind of the foolishness that they do.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Like Chuck and yeah, yeah, yeah, watch that show.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
They've been around forever, I mean they've kind of they're
pretty much considered the best pregame and postgame show.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Because they're funny. They're funny, funny and talk they talk
to there their truth. Do you watch them on the.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
N C double as, Yeah, that's not it not the
same combination.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Usually it's tempered down a little bit and it's they
don't have any idea.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
No, I mean Charles, although you know he's he's a
big u of aga, it seems.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Like because he's the reason why they can't win games
and big.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Arizona win the championship and then losing the Sweet sixteen. Yeah,
but I mean it's it's good. Richard, you know, has
had a nice little career.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
He's forty.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
He's only in his mid forties, forty five years old.
So yeah, you know, we'll see what, you know, what
Steve Kerr does in a couple of years or whenever
he decides to, if he's going.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
To go back, Yeah, no, you're right. I think Steve's
got other aspirations. I mean, he doesn't need to go
pay today. Maybe to just go off subject just a smidge.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
As I was driving in I was listening to one
of the political shows and they were saying, who would
be some maybe kind of off the wall presidential candidates
for twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
What's what? Wait?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Wait what station? Serious politics? Potus first person? Steve Kerr,
I totally agree, total person could.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I mean, it was like perfect timing as I'm driving. Yeah,
I know that woman.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't talk politics very often, but and I know
there's a lot of right's and there's a lot of
lefties on this who listened to the show, which you
know likes Michael Jordan said Republicans and Democrats by tennis
shoes equally. Yeah, advertising Uh yeah, I've always said this,
and I'm not discouraged to say this. He's the smartest
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(22:12):
been through a lot, obviously, and just a smart man.
Just a smart guy. Treats people fairly. That kind of
helps him being a smart man. You know, whatever side
you're on it and been met mel Block and those.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Guys, those guys, I mean, they've they're smart. You know,
I'm Matt very smart and you know Attorney the education,
but I mean both those guys have spoken out about
issues and Steve, you know, we know kind of where
he stands. And all that, and it's just kind of
it was just funny. It was ironic, you know, to
hear his name mentioned right off the back.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
They went off to some others, you know, Mark Cuban
and some of the other basketball people.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well that's almost on the left side, right Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah. The funny thing is I have a shirt. It's
the Popovich Kurd shirt. You've seen those, say for.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Whatever twenty or whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, whatever is the smart guy. And if you
lean that way, good for you. You know, well you
know you have.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I mean I just say for us, you know, having
you know, watch these guys grow up, to see them,
you know, flourish and do something else. I don't care
what side you're on. It's just cool to see them
in the public eye.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I think, would you here last week when we talked
about who would you be? Who would you rather be?

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And you had Gilbert, I said, Gilbert, yea, of all
the guys right now, who would you who would he?
At any time? What do you think? Who would you be?
Of the guys you've covered, who would you want to be?
I said?

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Who?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I wouldn't let me think about it, Okay, Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I said, we had Curl, I don't think you were
when we had had jay On, And I said, Steve,
there was always just times when I wanted to be
you forever. Then I have to see what you have
to deal with these knuckleheads with you with I said, nah,
I'd rather be Sean Elliott because he has to do.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
With a lot of crap. Yeah, as a coach and
the teams, the guys he has on the team, you
think it seems.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
To be.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
I mean the fact that he's Draymond Green for all
these years exactly and they're still together. You know, it's
just like all these guys come and go, and Raymond
is pool too that. Yeah, the two of them gotten
into it. So the shocker, But he's always got Steve.
He's got Steven Steph. You know, he's got he's got
Steph there to kind of keep it, keep it steady.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
It was a time when he had Clay. Yeah, so
we'll see, we'll see. So you'll give you time to
the end of the show to come up with somebody.
What's the question again, who would you.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Want to whose career would I like to know?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Who would you just rather be, and whose career would
you have had I guess what was the question?

Speaker 7 (24:38):
It was, So what you said was who who would
you want to switch lives with for a little one
for a little bit. Yeah, and then you gave like
a couple options and from those.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Guys, Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, Steve, Steve still he's
got to be at the top. Yeah, you know, anybody
want to call it, can join in on this conversation.
Teddy's pretty good too, and he's a good dude. He's
a good dude.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Ye, Teddy was a good dude.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Francona tey he got here Frankcona san with Terry.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Didn't know Terry at the beginning, but I knew him later,
you know, while he was still playing actually in the
majors and then gotten into coaching and managing.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Jenny.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
She's kind of low key now, in fact, I try
to get on the show. Low key now, but obviously
very successful. And she was probably out of time here,
I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago when she was
on the Mount Rushmore. Yeah, because of her presence in
the community, not community publicly.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
It'd be interesting.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I don't know, we could check, but I would not
be surprised that she's involved with the Olympics, since that's
coming back.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Yeah, I don't know sootball's coming back in twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, but she used to show up for the celebrities
baseball things.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I don't think she was there. Did they even do
that this year?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah? I saw, Yeah, I saw it on the Saturday.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Okay, what did you guys think of w NBA players
wearing those shirts?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
That's a good question. That's a good question, Dave.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
I don't know. I mean, trying to make a statement
obviously by wearing those shirts.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
I don't know what you brought it up, so you go, No,
it's just interesting because like you know, everybody's like they're saying,
pays what you is right, and I'm for it, you know.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
What I mean, Like, actually, I actually do they owe
I meanything?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It pay us what we're worth. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Maybe I think that was like would have been a
better slogan, but yeah, it was just tough because I mean,
you know, he's like.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Here's the problem, what are they worth? Yeah, I mean honestly,
because I don't think. I think now that Caitlyn's in
there and you say, kit like I know her, she's
kind of risen the visibility and YadA YadA. Uh, not
every franchise is equal, right because she's in Indiana or whatever. Yeah,
and there's some I'm sure that some games or some

(26:48):
teams struggle with attendance and where are you gonna get
your money outside of And it's obviously not fair, it's
not equal. But he let me tell you this, when
they told me about.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
The the the competitive stuff that you and all the
rest of the colleges, why collective bargo is Yeah, Hey,
if the football team is getting eighty ninety whatever percent
of it, and the rest of the guys are not
getting any rest of the athletes aren't getting there's no
such thing as fair.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, there's just no such thing.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
In fact, day in that story I told you about
the conference conferences and people going, they're not going or
they're not worth it. Media media days, there was a
story by some colonists, I guess the former s id
in there, who's written some great stuff. He said that
the tennis tennis teams probably aren't going to get any

(27:38):
collective any money, any money, and some teams are losing,
they're cutting them off. They're just mandy Because I guaranteed, Dave,
if my son or daughter were a tennis player in college.
I'd be a little p o because they work just
as hard as everybody else on that campus.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I mean in my mind, yeah, they can still get
a nil.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
I suppose, sure, but that's a deal they have to
kind of work out on their own. They're not getting
anything from the schools, right But yeah, I mean the
women's hoops, they're in the middle of a collective bargaining
bargaining agreement right now. They've got a big TV contract
they just signed w WNBA, you know, so they're kind
of trying to make a you know, they're trying to
move the negotiations along, if you will. But this is

(28:19):
how it always starts, you know, tendencies up. They're adding franchises.
I mean, you know, they've just added what three teams
like last week. The teams are coming, you know, so
that's just more money coming to that lead. Sure, over time,
it's nothing like it was five years ago.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
No, No, when the minimum was seventy thousand whatever.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
You turn around. The games are on TV, and you
know they're getting some exposure. It would be nice if
Caitlin would not get injured three times are in a
season because she's the Tiger Woods if that's wort right now?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
No, you're right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
So I just you know, so what did you think?
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (28:54):
What do I think?

Speaker 7 (28:55):
I think it's tough right now, just because it's really
starting to gain popular Well I don't know. I'm sure
there's diehard fans that you know, have been with it
since like day one and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Now you're noticing it.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
But right now I'm noticing it, and it's like, okay, yeah,
Like I mean, it's tough because I feel like it's
really like in maybe like the last decade, only starting
to get in the spotlight. And so it's kind of
like one of those things like back back in the
day in the NBA where it was like, you know,
people would do that, like not just recreationally, like they
do practice and stuff like that, but that was like

(29:28):
a side thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
It's like they still had jobs.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So I covered I covered the first h Phoenix Mercury
game twenty five years ago, if not more, Tims was
a guard.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think I STA did that story and it was like,
this is interesting. They're pretty good. It's just it's just different,
that makes me sense.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
That was twenty five years ago, and the game game
even people I know are watching it. I watch it, yeah,
but mostly when K and Park is playing, only because
of what could happen or what you know usually happens
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well, what they're arguing too, is it says the WA
NBA players currently received nine point three percent of league
revenues including TV deals, tickets, and merchandise. In comparison, the
NBA revenue is split roughly fifty to fifty between the players.
And so that's why you're seeing these ridiculous contracts by
you know, SGA gets what seventy million a year, you know,

(30:22):
because they're getting these multi billion dollar TV deals, whereas
the WNBA TV deal is you know, two point two million,
two point two billion, excuse me, so expansion fees two
hundred and fifty million.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I mean, they're you know, it's just it's it's not.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Close to the NBA in terms of cash, but the
exposure is picking up. They sold out the All Star Game,
They're on TV a lot yet more.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, but I think that's like an up and coming
fighter who's like three and zero in the in the
welterweight division, and who do you want next? Well, I
want that championship. Well, over time, we're in a few
moral fights and then you'll get to that point. It
just doesn't happen all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
And in the summertime, you know, it's it's programming, you know,
I hate to say it. I mean there's not much
on especially during the week. The weekends have you know,
golf or whatever. But during the week, you know, that's
stuff to watch Baseball and w NBA.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, it's kind of what we have right now until football,
to capture an audience until it's not.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah, and Caitlin, who's like you said, had she not
been hurt, it would have been a bigger deal.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, yesterday, And just you know, keep they need to
keep being on ESPN and that network, especially just because
the exposure you're going to get. As soon as they
leave ESPN, we'll never hear from them again. Looking over
to hockey, when they left ESPN, never heard from them.
They came back now, you know, now they do pregames
and you know, some hockey shows here and there, So.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
They gotta be careful.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
I thought it was cool last year that for their
All Star Game too, they did they did like which
w NBA last year they did the Olympic team likes
against like a team of like, just like w NBA
also is loving to make the Olympic crosser.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
I think this will be the test. Oh man, yeah
it is. It's like that h Shane Gillis joke.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
I'm pretty sure Team USA would, but now I got
to check.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
You're gonna have to tell me the Shane Jones joke.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
You remember it was like, oh and here we have
four time w NBA All Star.

Speaker 15 (32:15):
Oh yeah, yeah it turned out just because first yeah yeah,
and it wasn't her. Yeah, tells you how much you
watch it? Okay, well you know the NBA, what is it.
The NBA's minimum salary is one point twenty seven million
and the average is thirteen million.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well you can just go. But how long has it
been established? The popularity?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's you know, Dave, You're you've been in this business,
been around more than seventy five years. You've been You've
been in this business a long time.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
And I don't want a college guy coming out of
college and working for kangun I expecting to get paid.
But Dave Silver gets paid just because you know. It's
a bad analogy, but it's the analogy.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know, the NBA has roughly thirteen billion dollars in revenue.
The w n b A has two hundred million.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Here here, I mean look at it, and that's what
you go to first. If you're saying, well, okay, you
want to do this, get to this point.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, the NBA is.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know, besides soccer, most on the international sport, right
and there everybody.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
And it's still not it's still Look how bad it
was this not bad maybe not the NBA popular. It
wasn't very popular because all season, it took it's all
year because.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Ratings were down, the game was down, blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
I can't imagine it getting better either, No, because it's.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Not basketball anymore, at least not basketball. How we you
know it the only thing they're doing.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
I mean teams like countries like Canada especially, look at
their number.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
They're getting players, they're getting speaking.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Of SGA and France has really come on strong.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So it's getting more international.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Well, look at baseball, Baseball, this All Star game, it
was kind of what it was, right, Uh, what do
we have on did we talk about it on the show?
Where to perk the interests of the people who watch
it'd be more of an international versus.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
The I think that was John Browman.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
John, have the international players, the the.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
Members, they would win easily against.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
You have who's the I'm escaping names now the he
just signed a big deal with the Mets, oh so so,
and those guys against whomever.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I guess the judges on the other side, right right,
You have those people, and it would be kind of
a little I think peaked interest.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
I think like a four nations kind of like format
would would probably be a little better to you know,
just keep it a little more even, you know, because
Man League.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Again, you know, we have the little taste of the
World Baseball and Classic here in Mars. It's gonna happen
again next year, so we'll be seeing some of those
guys are playing.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Judge is playing, right, and so is Otani.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
I would think again, the dumpers, dumpers playing, dumpers playing.

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Speaker 3 (39:10):
They welcome back Twining the Ball here on Fox Sports
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Speaker 2 (39:21):
Why Sometimes I just don't come up with good ones.
But we're doing our best. Yeah, okay, sorry, sorry, Let's.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
See someone else talk about sports in late to middle July.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Right, right, exactly, Yeah, thank you, very good, good as.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, let's think about this in uh, you know, November,
October one. Yeah, everything everything's happening at once, so yeah,
October it's.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Not enough time to talk about.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, okay, yeah, when the football team is like what
six and four and they gotta win, they gonna.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Win the rest of the games. No, they're more like, yeah, uh,
you want to talk about some summer league stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, some highlights for I mean again, you know, Arizona
had quite a selection of players out there.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
You know who played there? I guess probably well Coloco. Yeah,
there was like a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
He's gonna get a two way, they said they he's
gonna get a two way with the Lakers, going to
come back on the team. He'll be Ayton's backup when
he's up there. Yeah, he might beat out Eton maybe,
who knows. I mean, I don't know. Were you here
last week when we talked about not last week but
the week before. I can't remember what we talked about,
but I would assume this is his last shot.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Although although Danney average like fifteen a game, I had
his numbers really weren't that terrible?

Speaker 2 (40:36):
No, No, that's what you wanted to play. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
Yeah, hopefully he doesn't know too much in l A right,
you might keep him from getting to the the.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Funny thing about it, that's gonna be his kind of
his legacy. Yeah, you know, for missing that one game
and we had to beat writer from up.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
There's a good dude, talked about all that. He spent
some time with him. He says, games, A good dude,
A good guys.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
A couple of things.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
You know, traffic's gonna be too bad. It's gonna get them.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
You can live close to the arena, right, Well, you
were just there, right, Yeah, traffic's not good is like good.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I was there covering the u c L a USC
and I was married at the time, and my wife
decided my dyn'm have wanted to come, And I said, okay,
cool it rained. It took us three hours to go
seven miles. Yeah, and she said, I never come with
you again. I said, okay, you have a good trip.
But you you say.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
Yeah, I mean if snow kept them off, you know,
when there's actual cars in the way, it's gonna be tough.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah, But now they did they think they think they
drive their own cars.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
These guys y pick them up. That's what I would do.
I hate traffic. I hate traffic under any conditions. But yes, Denver,
I was there two weeks ago, and you go down
a lot. So where did these people come from right
because it's crazy and they drive crazily. I mean, you
got ten feet to get a car and they're gonna
put that baby in And I don't care if you're
paying attention.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Just getting on the freeway. Sometimes, yes, there's a challenge
and you want to try to get off and you
want to get back on.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah, yeah, no, I would have a car some some
someone's gonna pick me up.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
I mean, if you're making that kind of money whatever,
you know, Yeah, it's no money's no object.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Right, And when you're twenty three years old on playing
Nintendo in the back, what are they playing now?

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Like PlayStation? Do you get to the thing?

Speaker 7 (42:25):
I have a question for you since you brought up money, Dave,
so over the weekend right or before the Open started,
I think you know that all the golfers are doing
like their press conferences and stuff like that, and you
know Scotty kind of got like, you know, he got
real introspective and stuff like that. He's like, you know what,
after a while, you know, you get to the top.
Well he didn't really say like this, but you know,

(42:46):
you get to the top of the mountain and you
realize there's more important things, you know what I mean.
And so it's like, I don't know, did you guys
ever feel like that whenever you're like doing journalism stuff,
You're like, I got like I've gotten like great stories
and stuff like that, like you know.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah, I mean there were days you felt like you
were a king of the world because you broke some
big story or you had a really good something really good.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Happened on the newscasts. I mean, but it didn't last.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
Long, no, And that's what he says. He's like, you
you win, you win a tournament, and like you.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
Know, you celebrate it for like like a couple of days,
a day or something like that, and then it's like,
all right, next turn.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
What would you do for me lately?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Because we would have a moment in time like you're
covering a big story or you know, did a really
nice job, and you go back to you know, the
you know, the newspaper or the TV station.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Everyone's you know, patting me on the back.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Great job, good story, Yeah yeah, and then what are
you doing tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
That's that's what the business is exactly, like, yeah, yes,
because now now that you now they know that you're good,
Now you have to be good all the time, right, How.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
You didn't have that story day? Yeah, you just had
one yesterday. I mean kind of.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Kind of my now that I think about it, and
I've been away from it for you know a while now,
but I think about it. My goal was just try
to be good every day, you know, maybe have those
great moments, to be consistent, yeah, and not you know, Wow,
he just didn't look like he cared today. I didn't
want that feeling, you know. I had too much pride
in what I was doing, storry to screw.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Today for you, Today's good. What brought this up? Because well,
money in this situation is not an issue, right because
we don't make a whole lot of money.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
But but I guarantee you if you ask ten of
us high market, middle market, low market, would you rather
be doing something else?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
And they're gonna say hell no, hell no. Day. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
But Scottie, you know, I don't know if you saw
it last night, because he made those comments I think
on Thursday Wednesday last week before the tournament started. But
last night he kind of he kind of walked it
all back and said, you know, everybody kind of picked
this clip upon mine. They took fifteen seconds, and I
talked about this for five minutes, and he kind of
explained himself and how he really felt. You know, he's
going to go back to Texas with the trophy and

(44:53):
he's going to celebrate it. Of course, this is you know,
it's a major moment for him and the family. I
don't know if he saw the pictures of his son
trying to climb up the you know, so it's a
big deal for him, and I think he was misinterpreted
a little bit by the media and how it came out.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Fraser question again, just like if you I don't know,
like if you ever had feelings like that where it's
like not so much like there's bigger things than this,
but it's like this is like only like a like
aspect of life.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Kinds plus like if you've been here around enough, and
then Dave's been around enough. I asked the coaches, you're
a competitor, right, and you get you retire. They love
to compete. I mean they that's what they do. Even
if now he doesn't win another one for a while,
but you're out there trying to win another one because
that's what you do. You compete, right, you know, in

(45:41):
whatever you do back in the day. The only reason
I poker, everyone knows that, But it's to compete. Before
I was in a newspaper business. I had to compete
against the star and try to one up. And it's
stressed as all hell, but it was a lot of fun,
especially when you won.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
When you lost, it sucked.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
And the athletes who were talking about are the cream
of the crop. I mean, these are the best. Yeah,
that's why they're there because they've been able to compete
and you're not back down and win the big one,
right like he did yesterday.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
And that's kind of how he is.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
And you know, sorry, that's golf, and that's what makes
them different, right, that's what makes the different. Someone asked
him yesterday about Tiger, right, yeah, Tiger or whatever it was,
and then he said, it's a silly question, but but
he's that good. I don't know if he's that good,
but he's that good.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Oh yeah, he said, Like, you know, Tiger's got like
fifteen majors. I got four. You know, I'm not even
but he's got who old is he?

Speaker 5 (46:36):
He's gonna twenty thirty nine? He's twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Well, see, so they said time so next year US
Open falls on his birthday, I heard, and if he
wins it, it'll be on his thirtieth birthday. So so
there's that he's got a lot, a lot of golf
ahead of them the next ten years at least.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
But to sustain that competitiveness for that good.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Yeah, it's did you look at these?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
You know somebody these you know we're talking like Chris
Paul today signs in his twenty first year.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Do you remember going do you remember this? Uh?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
And I was there and you covered him. A Ustafa
Shukor who said he'd come on the show at some point.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
He and Chris Paul were the two best guards in
the in the country when they were coming out two
thousand and fourish, I think it was. We were in
New York for the n I and then they were
paying against each other Wake Forest versus Arizona, and I
you know, I remember doing that story like yesterday that
Chris Paul and Mustafa, Chris Paul and Mustafa and look
how that went.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Yeah, you know, and you know what's the difference. I
mean again, when they were that age and they were
kids coming out of college. Yeah, one guy, you know,
one guy's are first round pick. The guy don't was
missed off even drafted.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, and he didn't play that long in the league. Yeah,
I mean just I don't know. Yeah, the Jeans twenty
one years ago.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, twenty one years ago, and now he's working on
his whatever number of teams and still getting paid.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Going to the Clippers for the third time.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
They're going to be They're kind of like the Dallas
Cowboys of the NBA. Yeah, you got all these all
this talent, whether it's old or whatever.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Okay, we'll see how that goes well. And the Golden
State Warriors.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Yeah at yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you mean, yeah,
it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I mean Chris paulm the Warriors or no.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
No, no, no, now the Warriors how they just kind of
buy players that come in and see what see what happens.

Speaker 7 (48:17):
It's gonna be interesting though, I mean because I remember
I don't remember that first thing, but I remember Lob City.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
I remember like Lob City Clippers and that was man, that.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Was well how long ago was that.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
Like twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Is they have some players, yeah, whether they and that's
when they were the Clippers yeah, I remember, do you
want to call them about the Clippers when they were
like miserable and horrible and they chose your guy from Stockton,
David uh oh, Conda, Michael kind over over Mike Bibbie. Yeah,
you know the best thing that happened to Mike Bibby not.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. NBA is gonna be interesting,
but it doesn't really until like.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
They're gonna have that lineup with Kawhi, with Harden, George,
Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
And then they get that's gonna be that's that's of
a Peyton Place. No, go ahead and explain that. No,
I don't know. Peyton Place Place was his soap in
the sixties, soap operas in the egos. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
That'll never work. It'll never work. Must there's three three
guys getting along. This is five guys.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Yeah, and they're all kind of kind of a plus personalities. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (49:40):
Well, I mean I think I think one one kind
of solid you can find if you're like a Clippers
guy or whatever is that.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
Maybe Chris Paul and like James Harden, they had had
a pretty good connection in Houston.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
You know, they never they never won.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
But Chris James Harden that's two. What about the other three?
Another seven that are gonna be the roster.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
They got a great owner. The arena is amazing from
what I've heard too. A dome, you know, it's an attraction.
It's gonna be. They're gonna be using that dome, that
arena for the Olympics. They're not going to use whatever
crypto or stables. They're using this this new place. Really,
So do you have a big come from a big family?

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Yeah, but mother immediate family not really. Two brothers and
a sister, okay three did you always get along? Noh?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Well my case your honor by defense rest.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Yeah, it's a fair point.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
I was actually thick about that the other day, but
it was it was most because they wouldn't let me
play outside.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Well, little you get right over my car. Yeah right,
just the summery before you forget about Really you have time,
do we Carter Bryant? Oh we got one minute? Yeah,
let's talk about him when we come back. Okay, that's fine,
because you have enough breaking news we can we can do.
It's fine because we have t J on the other side,

(50:55):
and then we have calls.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
I was surprised Carter didn't play last night or this Saturday.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Sorry, they kept him out the last two games.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
I think, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
They've seen enough. She'll put him on the shelf. He's
been exactly shoot lights out, but play defense and to
other stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
He's kind of like, dude, he's like he defers and
he's kind of like shy. You know, that's what how
he was. It took him two three months here.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Yeah, you know, we'll see if he grows grows up
a little bit. You know, he's not what is he's
eighteen eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, man, but that's the league. Yeah, the NBA is
Chris Paul and the Clippers cleverage age thirty five.

Speaker 7 (51:32):
So like if they do well, right, does he just
have to like sit out like outside of the club
for all the celebrations or oh Carter the alcohol?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Oh yeah, see that's another thing. It's a it's a
big man's league. It's an old man's league. Yeah, old
then twenty two and over?

Speaker 5 (51:47):
No, Yeah, I got.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, Yeah, that's tough. Keep the carving.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
He'll be a driver.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Driver, he's a driver. But with that will go yep,
we'll go