Monday, July 28, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve Rivera, He's got his Eye on the ball on
Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports Sports een fIF day.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Troy Hutchison,
and your one with breaking news. This is Eye on
the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Happy Monday to everyone out there. You're truly Mihito Lindo,
mister Gridy. Two shoes on a Monday instead of a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
On a Monday. Yes, times change. I'm I'm all over
the place this summer. What can I say?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Uh So, starting off breaking news with some Arizona athletics.
Noelh Flafida has been selected to the Maxwell Award watch list,
one of the I think many he's been on this offseason.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah, you know, I think, what what's that? Well deserved? Yeah? Where?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
What are his expectations by sides like obviously cutting down turnovers.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
In terms of like how he should play or I
think cutting down turnovers, not taking as many sacks and
just being vocal out there on the field. I think
he's a proven leader off the field, but being that
guy to be like wake the heck up, we need
to like get going, let's start moving, move your bite,
let's go. I don't think you did that enough last year.

(01:15):
I don't know if you can expect the twenty twenty
three season, but somewhere in between the two.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'd agree. I have nothing to add to that. Just
be better. I mean, a lot of it wasn't on him,
and I think coach Coach Brendon talked about that, where
it was on him rather than on and the coaching
stuff I didn't give much to work with.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I think at the beginning of the year it was
very clearly the playbook and the coaching staff, and I
think by mid season to then it kind of piled up,
and then he started making mistakes, missing guys, and when
you're in that rut, it just it's spirals.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, he seemed like he'd be one of those guys
depressed too, because you wanted to do so much and
he just wasn't possible with the group he had.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
To the w NBA the Los Angeles Sparks Cameron Ring
to make her season debut Tuesday Tomorrow night, after thirteen
months from tearing her a cl Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well thirteen months. Great player.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
The man that was stalking Kitlyn Clark played guilty today
and is sentenced to prison. It took about eighteen months.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
What did he do?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
I didn't Yeah, what happened.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Uh, let's see felony stalking charge after allegedly repeating sending
threats and sexually violent messages via social media.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Didn't even know that? People are crazy? Yeah, breaking news,
people are crazy. Sky's Blue.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
The sneakers from Kobe Bryant's first career start sold for
two hundred and forty k That's all.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
It seemed like those would be a lot. Where's George wanting?
You know, he could have bought them? Say, I was
expecting something million, me too. Person who had him, the
wife who would have they probably were already sold and
then this guy had him and he resold them. Because
that's how all of those tennis twenty years twenty.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
I mean ninety nine ninety eight, right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Believe it says were they who had him? It says
Sports Investors Authentic Authentication.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
That had the DNA? Yeah, the soul you want to
call it? Do you want to call it? That did
deal swab exactly? I've seen seaside. You can tie those
shoes and say make me like Kobe. Yeah, sure is Yeah,
I'll stop there. I was going to say about, Wow,
you don't know where else you're thinking? Maybe you do?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I think, yeah, we'll talk top break.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
The Chicago Bulls coach Billy Donovan has signed a multi
year contract extension with the franchise.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
A little bit surprising in my eyes.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
They're not that good. They're a playing team. They've been
a playing team for a couple of years now. And
he's coach for the Chicago Bulls. You don't want to
be there. He's a heck of a coach. Thing is
he probably shouldn't be in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
I gotta be honest. I think he's a phenomenal coach,
green college coach. He got tired of the college I
think mindset. But what is Chicago ever given him to
work with? Like, okay, we're gonna give you, you know,
washed up? Did marketing play for him? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, the marketing was not very good there, but now
he's great. I mean being the mar Rosen Yeah there's yeah,
there's not enough good there. No, Yeah, I get what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
The Phoenix Sun's employee that was suing her retaliation has
been fired by the Organization.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
For Exact for the the for the affair that what
your name had with the GM and all that is
he like a security.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Guy, uh, trying to find out director of safety.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, next management. That's okay, fireing, but I'm sure the
litigation is still going has to be. She's kind of
what's your name? Can you? Sophia Cunning him Sophia Cunning
the Yeah, because that's a bizarre story. I mean, I'm
surprised they hadn't fired him a long time ago, and
then he just pursued the case. I don't know. I

(05:12):
don't know a lot about it. Yeah, okay, it just
came out today.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
The Cordell Patterson says he has been released by the
Steelers on social media. There hasn't been any other official statement,
just says breaking news pittsbook, Steelers released old, washed up
Cordell Patterson on his day off old.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I guess. I guess he was released because he's old
and washed up. I don't know. I haven't I haven't
seen him. Whose whose headlining was that? He reported that's
why you were cut?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Hey, how do you sell yourself to your next t him?
I'm old and washed up.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
But wouldn't you want we wouldn't you? I mean, I'm
at the bottom barrel price right now.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
The Broncos in Courtlandtton have reached a four year, ninety
two million dollar extension. Love it money going to players
that wish I had, So, I don't know. I don't
know if you saw this earlier today they came out
why Christian Wilkins was released from the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I just saw some of that. I don't know, know, yeah,
that was a story.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
It really is because an incident that recurred I guess
off the field, not even yeah, I believe so he
kissed a fellow player on the head. Teammate didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know if this. I don't know if that's
why they did it, or they had cut him and
then that was a goodbye gesture to somebody. I think
the timing is the important part of it. I don't
think that it was not the sole reason. It wasn't
the sole Right right now that he is a grievance
against the NFL. The player that got kissed, he's a
player association blah blah blah. He's wondering what the hell happened.
I didn't appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, that's it's because it started with the injuries stuff
in terms of not wanting to do their training, bro
role and stuff like that. So interesting, interesting time.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Earlier today on Sanders had a press conference talking about
his medical journey. But he is u he said he
battled and beat bladder cancer.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, he's had a lot of injuries, well, a lot
of issues issues, injuries, nothing. Yeah, issues with his amputations
and his blood plots and all that. And he's only
here's my thing, he's only fifty seven. Wait till you know,
ten to fifteen years my age. Yeah, it made me
feel good to take my meds. By the way. I

(07:29):
don't know if that reminds you, it reminds me. I
don't think I diddy. I gotta go, like I gotta go,
like like Ray gave me that look.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I gotta go, Yeah, gotta I gotta go. Got somewhere
to be. Yeah, fifty seven years old. Yeah, uh, that's
all I got for breaking news.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Okay, you mean he didn't step down and retire from
football like some people were tweeting out that he was
gonna do. That was yeah, that they had all the
inside information.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
On what are they doing that?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh do we know that?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
We do?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And I'm sure there was no retractions.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
No I know, but I'm just saying, oakes surprise. Yeah,
why would you do that? I mean, honestly, this good check,
good job. I was.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I was in Colorado a month ago, and what a
fantastic campus. What visit the campus? Great? Great place to
see a football game.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, I've never been. I heard it's amazing. It is
that stadium. Yeah, so I saw it from afar. It
was really nice.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And then I went on campus and it was just
a great place. You know, two sons, a great place.
Just got to pack the back the room. There was
a there was a thing in the ESPN somewhere top
twenty five, Top twenty five arenas, not arenas stadiums in
the country for football, for football. It might have been
somebody else, maybe top twenty Google top twenty five. How

(08:48):
much when the bet Arizona was not on the way,
I'm not getting rag, but she wouldn't even be top fifty.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
No, well, top top fifty maybe. And that's a lot
of schools, a lot of school with the top you're
competing with Pullman in Corvallis. So I don't know. I
never than that.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I don't It was on three. So do you have
the list? Yeah, okay, go ahead and the seas Arizona
Google Arizona or go through the list. No, yeah, yeah,
just just kind of quickly and see the top of
Ohio State first. No, it'll be a Tiger stadium issue lsue. Okay,
that's yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, Penn State after that, Ohio State at three, okay, Oregon, Oregon, Oregon.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I've been to Oregon.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Okay, Clemson at five, Tennessee at six. You got Georgia, Alabama, Florida,
and Texas A and m running up. No, Michigan, Michigan
number twelve, Washington at fifteen, Washa. I've been there when
it was empty during COVID. Yeah, it was still phenomenal. Yeah,
I know because it's the view. Yeah, I've been there

(09:50):
a number of years covering the team back in the day.
So Arizona anywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
No, not in the top twenty five Rice Echoles. Was
it the only go to twenty five? I think they
go to fifty. No, no, this one only goes to
twenty five. Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
I can try to find one that says no, no, no,
just to see where they rank.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, but you have Rice Cycles at eighteen, uh b
YU at twenty two, and uh Oklahoma State right at
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
See I would I would flip the YU in Utah.
You have to hit factor in the view. I mean
that that's one of the premier settings in eligible ball.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Nothing like USC UCLA. Obviously no one goes to those games,
at least UCLA USC.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Maybe it's not the Reggie Bush era where he goes.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
You have Boys State at twenty three. Yeah, the Blue
the Blue Carpet murdur.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, but not too many teams in this in the West. No,
that's soft, the soft the West.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
It's well, you know you look at the fandom and fans.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, No, it's all all on the other
side of the country.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, east of Texas. Everything's East Texas. Were they in
the top ten? I can't remember Texas. I thought he
said ten Texas at sixteen sixteen.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
See, I didn't hear it. Texas A and M Yeah.
I just think if they uh eliminated some seats at
you of A, make the forty two, make it cozy,
I think, just and then open it up if it's
a big game, and then open it up.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I know they they would rather just put like a
tart there. But I'm just saying, if you take the
top off them, especially on the opposite side of where
we are, where the students are, were the steers above
the students, if you never feel that.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Out, what what is that? I mean, what do you
think the capacity there is? Maybe seven about?

Speaker 4 (11:34):
So you would be seven taking off seven fourteen okay,
forty three?

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, and there's people up there, but you could put
them somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
But also you know there's some introverts who want to
be by themselves, open in the corner.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Falling asleep with the pop par and.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
All over the.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Two of the afternoon. What's one hundred and two?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Well that and that's another I think big fact for
Arizona and Arizona State is the early season games when
you're having these you know, let's say, I don't know,
nooon kickoffs one o'clock, two o'clock. If you get a
day game, it's insanely Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, do you blame him for not going to go
to the go to the tail game, uh, and then
go home come watch it on the the sixty watch it.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
You know, there's a lot of people that watch it,
or used to. I don't know they anymore. I think
they don't. They used to that. Yeah, yeah, where you
could camp out there watch it.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
They're like an hour you have to be out of there.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I think Jay would know. But I think we've talked
about it a number of times. But you have a
certain amount of time to get out of there because
they used to allow you to just stay there. Yeah,
and that's part of the problem that we just go
there and just have fun and then not go to
the game. Yeah, makes sense. Were okay, four minutes? Okay,
anything else? Anybody want to call and let us know

(12:53):
what you're thinking. If you have the time, do you
give us a quick call? Feel the space for this time?
Did you want to talk about that? The Big twelve coaches?
Oh basketball? Yeah, yeah, well we didn't know. Okay, let's
do it. Yeah, so you showed us that.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
There's on three made the list Top ten Big Twelve
coaches in position for twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. Okay,
legendary coaches face competition from challenge. I think the number
one is easy. Kelvin Sampsonvin Sampson, The Dean Bill self
numbertween Dean two three, Scott Drew.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Okay, that's that's it. Jevity okay, National title, Yeah, okay,
number four, tj uttel Berger Iowa State. Okay, Okay. They've
been good. They've been good.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
They've been good.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
They've been good. But Tommy's only been here a few years.
I know, I know, you know, he's been the head
coach for four of those years. Yeah, yeah, you know
you know why. It's recency bias and in closeness bias. Yeah,
he's here. You know, if people were making this list
in Nyowa, Tommy, what really if he was four? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying, to be fair, apples and apples.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Graham McCastle in Texas Tech number five, I think, okay,
and then Tommy, Tommy, I think you can go either or.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
At four. But that's that's me.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
A five B. Yeah, yeah, I think he's five A
five B. Just to be Tommy. Tom We all think that.
I think the world of Tommy. I think he's snarky
now and he's got a little confidence, a little snappy,
and which is good except when he's doing it to me. No,
I like to enjoy because I wouldn't start back this year.

(14:28):
And we know it's good with sweet sixteens, four of
them Troy guys.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, I know it's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's not good enough. No, it's not. And anybody who
says it is okay, good, good for you, but it's not.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, No, it's definitely not. And I think doesn't Texas
stuck under their coach, have a final four and the lead.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, he's got something from last year, right what they finished.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
They got to the last yeah, but I think then
they get to the final four.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
The other guy ye beer beer yeah, yeah, no, so
I think that's fair, that's fair. And then he's six, right.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, Kevin Young b YU right after him, and I
think Jamie Dixon TCU at eight, Oh, that's high for
Jamie High.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
There's nothing last.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
With what he's done about just in the Big twelve,
what he's done in the Big his career. He's ahead
of some other coaches. Jamie's a terrific coach.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, no, no, you're saying it's too low for being eight.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I think it's I think he's too high up on.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
The list eight.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
He hasn't done anything Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
So you're right, you're saying that way.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Okay, I think Johnny Dawkins has done more at Central Florida.
Jamie Dixon has that.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I don't agree with that. Jamie's not even I mean,
Dawkins is not even on the list. So okay. So
then West Miller Cincinnati at nine.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
That's high too, and then Ross Hodge West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
See, now you're kind of just throwing stuff on the wall.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
And that's why I'm saying, Yeah, I don't know, he's
not that good coach. Look, I think Jamie Dixon, over
the of his career tremendous coach, better coach than Johnny Dawkins.
But what he's done in the Big Twelve really hasn't
been that impressive. I don't think this is exclusive to
the Big Twelve. I think this is coaching. I thought
it was just the conference. No, this is just this
is the conference coaches. Yea, the conference coaches with their

(16:16):
with their resume. Okay, doesn't make sense, And that's fair. Yeah,
that's fair.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, not not their success in the Big Twelve. But
he still should be. If that's the case, then Bill
Solp should be number one.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
The rest of the Big twelve coaches weren't ranked. This says,
throw them out there. Bobby Hurley sixteen State?

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Is he sixteen?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Who coach? Okay? Okay, Okay, Tang Kansas State?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Okay, you know, I think he's not eleven eleven?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Okay, Steve Let's Oklahoma State is twelve? Okay. Johnny Dawkins
U s F Okay, Alex Jensen Utah, and alex Is
hadn't played in the league, he's sixteen sixty sixteen, Yeah,
maybe early fifteen. I think the cry is as good
as a player he was, and in the reputation he has,
he hasn't done much.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I think Hurley is fifteen and sense of that. But
in terms of what they like, what they can do
from here on out, like the direction of the program,
I would say Hurley's in a better spot than Tad
Boil right now. It's bad at Colorado.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's not any better at the issue. It's never been
really good, no, I know.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
But you just had Colorado just had a top five,
top ten draft pick not too long ago, and Williams
and Gody Williams, and he didn't do anything. You weren't good.
I think they made that they barely made the tournament,
you'd having two top Yeah, that's another one. Come play
for me. We're not gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
We're way over. Soli's go.

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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app. This is High on
the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Hey, welcome back to Wy on the Ball Hero Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today with me
is Troy Huxison Control. Here's guts one. Now on the
fun we have Mike Scott from the thorny Dale Little
League softball team. How ai coach?

Speaker 13 (22:21):
Hey doing well? How you guys doing today?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
We're doing fine? Just a first cut. I'm sure you've
heard this a thousand times the last two or three days. Congratulations,
I mean, come on, what kind of dream have you
been going through?

Speaker 13 (22:32):
Yeah, you know, we're It was a great season for
the Thornydale All Star team. The girls really exceeded expectations.
You know. We definitely put a team together that we
thought could win state and make it to the West Region.
And then we kind of just took a game by
game when we were out there and we realized, hey,
we're in this, we can win this, we can make

(22:52):
it to the World Series. But I mean that was
it was a surreal experience. The girls had a great
time at San Bernardino. The stadium, Al Houton Stadium is amazing.
The facility there is great, the people there great, the volunteers,
I mean, the cafeteria, food, everyone there, which you get
treated like it's like a Many Little League or a
Many College World Series. Is the feeling that you get,

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you know. So, yeah, the girls had a great time
and really, you know, proud of them for what they
did this summer.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Uh so I watched it Saturday, I think it was
right Saturday, Friday whatever, what day was that Friday night?
Friday night. So you guys were tied, then you were
down one, and that call, that call at the end,
I thought maybe I have a bias, I but I
thought that she was safe. Uh you guys, you guys
protested the call and what they tell you.

Speaker 13 (23:43):
So so okay, So earlier in the game, all your
down ones here are you talking about? When we sent
Tristan four or two outs?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (23:50):
I think it was in the bottom of the third. Yeah,
I mean we're just trying to get back to zero
zero there. I mean the leftfielder was playing pretty shallow,
but you know, two outs, I'm rolling the die. There
are a lot of things have to go right for
for the left fielder, she's got to she's got to
pick the ball cleanly. She's got to come up and
make a good throw. She she threw high and almost
got away. Tristan slid in. I honestly thought she was safe.

(24:11):
I thought, even on replay, me too, got it, me too.
You know. Yeah, there is some you know, Monday morning
quarterbacking on that call, But you got to be aggressive
in that situation. We're trying to square up the game
right there. It didn't go our way, but then we
were able to rally in the bottom of the fourth
and score two to take the lead two one, so
really put us six outs away from from winning the
championship there.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, no, you guys must have felt good. I say,
I left at that moment and had to find out
later what happened. So you took the two to one lead,
and then you did you stay with your pitcher?

Speaker 13 (24:43):
We did? Yeah, So yeah, I mean, Kenzie's our ace.
She she's our workhorse there and she thrives in the
big moment, So yeah, we were definitely staying with her.
So yeah, in the next ending top of the fifth, Uh,
the first batter hit a hit a hard like one
hopper to our shortstop. She kind of bobbled and then
recollected the ball with plenty of time, kind of just

(25:04):
rushed the throw and it got away and ended up
going in the dugout, so that put the runner at two.
And then the next batter hit the lefty. The eleven
batter hit a ground ball to a third basement that
she kind of muffed, and then the runner from second
took off, so she kind of tried to go after her.
So it quickly, you know, with with kind of two
fielding errors there, we quickly had runners on first and third,

(25:26):
and then they were able to steal second to put
second and third, and then we ended up going I
think full count on that batter walking that batter, so
bases would loaded. So we were quickly in some trouble
there no out up one run. The next batter hit
a fly ball to center field that our center fielder
was tracking it, and then she just just kind of
pulled up on it and it dropped pretty much right
in front of her feet. So there's a few plays

(25:48):
that had to be made there. It was tied up
two to two, and then I took the time out
to go talk to my pitcher, thinking that I still
had a visit there, and unfortunately that was not the cads.
So yeah, that was. The umpire came out said hey,
so who are you switching to. I'm I'm not switching

(26:08):
right here. This is I have a visit and I'm like,
I have three and he's like, oh, yeah, you're right okay,
and then he walked away and then he came back
and he said, no, coach, you got to switch right here.
So yeah, that was. It was kind of an unfortunate situation.
The second time out that I had taken, either in
the second or third inning, it was when the so

(26:28):
call team had scored the first run up single the
right field. Kenzie had backed up home plate and the
umpire flung the bat without looking and hit her in
the left ankle. So you can see me on video
talking about, you know, when I went out to the circle,
she's like, she was kind of hobbling. I'm like, what's
wrong and she said the umpire hit me with the bat.

(26:48):
And I was like, the other team hit you with
the bat and she said no, the umpire hit me
in the ankle. And I'm like, oh man, and then
so the umpire was walking out, I'm like, Blue, do
you know that you just hit her with the bat?
And he's like I did, and and he and I'm like, yeah,
you did. And so I was a little frustrated by it.
Everybody's a little frustrated by it. And he said, Okay,
I'm sorry. So really I I kind of should have

(27:10):
pushed hard on. Hey, this is a this is an
injury check here. Yeah, right, didn't think I needed to,
I mean at that point, but really, in hindsight, hey, yeah,
I definitely should have pushed for that's that's an injury visit.
And had to throw a couple of pitches. But long
story short, though, yeah, I just uh so they made
us pull Kenzie there in the top five bases loaded

(27:32):
no out type two two. We went to Aubrey Neighbors.
She's a great pitcher on her own right, but really
wasn't fair for her to be rushed into that situation.
Wasn't really our intention. Our plan A was just Kenny
goes the long haul, you know, either win loser, draw
at and he's going to be in the circle there.
So then uh but but as soon as they had

(27:52):
their lefty, I think three hole batter, she got to
single up the middle, so now scores four to two.
Knowing that in the book it says the substitute pitcher
pitches to one batter, you can re enter your your
previous pitcher. So that's what we did. My wife called
time out. She was the manager. She requested that George,
you know, hey, we want to and you know, I
want to talk to you. And and as soon as

(28:16):
before she could get the words out of her mouth
that hey, you know I want to I want to
switch back to my other picture, the umpire said, if
you're going to ask if you can enter re enter
your pitcher, the answer is no. So I mean that
was rude and and actually backing up a second before that,
when we were putting Aubrey in the games, we were
talking to the home plate umpire, which was he was

(28:36):
also the crew chief, and we we conferred to him,
hey we can can we re enter our pitcher after
one batter? And his response to us was, you should
know the rules. Now, I do know that's in the
rule book. However, I wanted to make sure that we're
on the same page, right, so so there's not going
to be any contest you know, contested moments from there,

(28:59):
because we're going to be ready to either put a
protest down, stop the game entirely, and get the head
umpire and charge over. So that was pretty unprofessional rude.
It was pretty unprofessional rude when my wife called time
out and requested didn't even get to say what she
wanted to request from him, and he kind of took
the words out of her mouth and that if you
want to put the picture back in, the answer is no,

(29:21):
and that was the endissory. And I was like, you know,
we were kind of we should we protest right now?
What are we going to do? You're kind of seeing
red at that point. This game is potentially unraveling before
your eyes, you know. So it kind of felt like
a bad dream in that moment. So there were multiple
layers of what's going on there. You know, sometimes you're

(29:42):
in a game situation where even when I called time
out and I'm part of might be like, hey, coach,
you've taken two. You're going to have to pull if
you cross that line. You know, the games on TV,
National TV, non none of us have ever played on
National TV before prime time, and let's make each other
all look good. Right. It doesn't have to be such
a such a tough situation where the umpire's kind of

(30:04):
just he's being kind of elusive with us, hey know
the rules? And when really does he know the rules?
Because when I said, hey, this is my third visit
and he's like, oh, you know what, you're right, So
maybe he's not so clear on the rules too. So
it was a really unfortunate situation how it all unraveled there.
But it's on me. I I you know, I caused
the pitching change. But they we've everything I've seen in

(30:26):
the Little League rule book, there's nothing that indicates that
Kenzie could not have returned to the game has requested.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
So.

Speaker 13 (30:34):
We did email william Sport and the West Region yesterday
asking for clarification and stating, you know the rules that
we've found that all indicate that the pitcher in minors
and majors can return it any time to pitch, because
you don't need visits to return a pitcher defensively. So
we are waiting for a response from them. Obviously there's

(30:55):
nothing that can be done at this point, but we
just want some acknowledgement and clarification because no one should
be in this situation. Now, we had a great game
going on and it kind of turned into like a
silly finish to a potentially, you know, really good game
on ESPN.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
You know, even though you know things didn't go your
guys is way there at the end and all that,
you know took place. Just getting the experience and seeing
those girls go to that and being so close and
being a part of the team and experiencing the travel
and all that. I mean, that's got to be well
huge for them.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Part of that is you're still in California? Are you
together still? Are you still hanging out? No?

Speaker 13 (31:37):
So, actually I'm I'm in We're in Orange County now
for the PGF Championship out here PGF Nationals this week.
We have our club team, my Tucson Fury ten you
team is out here, and then my older daughter Kenzie
is out here with her fourteen U team team Hustle
from Phoenix, So they're playing this week. So yeah, where
it's nontop, NonStop stoptball.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
To the stop to choice point real quick. I think
we all dream about doing this, right, becoming the best
team in the city, best team in the state, get
to go to the West. You know, Hey, I did
this so many years ago, wanting to do this and
get to San Bernardino. How big of a task is it.
You're talking money, you're talking travel, you're talking parents all

(32:18):
on the same page. How tough is that? Or big
is that?

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (32:21):
Yeah, it's tough. And it's a long, long week there.
I mean we were there from Thursday, the previous week
until you know, Friday night, Saturday morning when everybody finally
left the hotel. So you're looking at nine ten days
of being there. It is it's a huge, you know,
a huge event to get all the logistics, and it's
expensive for sure. Yeah, and with the West region in

(32:45):
San Bernardino, they have the girls sharing hotel rooms, so
the girls aren't staying with their parents. So then my wife,
as the manager, was also the player advocate, So you're
basically chaperoning and taking care of all the logistics for
travel to and from the field, the meals throughout the day.
They do have two cafeteria meals on site available for

(33:06):
lunch and dinner at al Hound Stadium. And but yeah,
it's it's it's a lot of work. It's a lot
of work to get it done. It was, it was
a heck of an experience though, getting back to your
original question. There, the girls had a great time. I
felt like our energy all week was incredible. We were
having so much fun, you know, in the truck up
to the games that we you know, we had a

(33:27):
rental car too, but I was driving, you know, five
year olds in my truck. Mallory had the rest of
them in her suv and we're listening to music and
just loose and the girls are singing and it was
just fun. It was like a really good bonding experience
for the girls, that once in a lifetime opportunity. And yeah,
I mean it really felt like, you know, we were
gonna we were going to take that game and move

(33:48):
on to to North Carolina. But unfortunately it just didn't
pan out that way.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
So here's the other other thing. And then, what's fair
anymore of these days? Right? You go undefeated to that point.
It's a double elimination game. And I'm not saying this
would have helped it helped you or not helped you. Uh,
And it's a winner take all type of thing. I'm
not looking for fair because I don't believe in that word.
But here you are, and you lose on you're out.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
Yeah, that's the unfortunate part because we had beaten uh,
Westchester del Rey, Southern California eight to two on Sunday,
so we had proven that that, you know, it's we
can beat that team. We came out and it was
a really close game, and then it just unraveled on us.
Had we had another game, sure, I mean, there's a
there's definitely a chance we could have we could have

(34:32):
came out on top. However, for the made for TV
event on ESPN, it's a winner take all game and
uh and unfortunately that's not the way that it played out, which, hey,
we needed to be on our on our a game
in that game, there's there's several things, you know, the
Bats needed to get going sooner. Defensively, we didn't play
up to the way that we're capable of the entire

(34:54):
week we were there in San Bernardino. I think at first,
you know, the first game against Hawaii, we were a
little bit nervous. Got that out of the way. We
played our best game on Sunday when we played back
to back games, the first game against Southern California when
we won eight to two. That's probably the funnest game
I've ever been a part of the girls were so loose,
we were having so much fun in the dugout, the
bats were going. It was just it never felt like

(35:16):
a close game. But we just loved it, you know,
we were embracing the experience, and I think kind of
you know, where you get into trouble is you have
two days offense. So Monday Tuesday were off days and
we didn't play Live Oak until Wednesday, and of course
Monday we took a day off. Tuesday we practiced, we
had a hitting practice, an a field practice later on

(35:36):
in the day, and then Wednesday it was kind of
like the bats were gone again, you know. But Kenzie
spun a gem that night, struck out eleven. I think
it was one hit, one walk, did fantastic and we
won that game one to zero. But I mean one
to zero games, you're you're you're flipping a coin on
whether or not you're gonna be able to pull that out.
So kind of, you know, the week so long, I
feel like if you play almost if you play a

(35:58):
little bit more, you're going to keep better momentum. You know,
with the off days, it can be a kind of
a challenge, but you know, yeah, it was just it
was a real tight game on Friday until until the
top the fifth when it unraveled, and that was my fault,
you know.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
I just I just thought about this question and with
this question, if I am way off based on it,
just let me know. When you have these events a
Little Little League World Series and stuff like that, how
much of it is an opportunity for these girls in
terms of being seen by colleges, not only on TV,
but just the recruiting aspect for them.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
How much does this even at this age.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
You don't know at this stage, because I know colleges
aren't allowed to talk to them yet, but they they
were allowed to. But just just seeing them out there
on the field.

Speaker 13 (36:42):
And seeing them, I mean I think there's something to that,
probably name recognition, just seeing them out there playing. But yeah,
that the colleges can't even talk to the girls until
I think it's junior year after August or something, you know,
like right when the school season starts in junior year now,
but they are probably I mean there's something to be
said that you hear a girl's name and then you

(37:02):
see her later on on the recruiting trail. Maybe so,
but yeah, I mean you're definitely getting to recognition out there,
but it's probably it's too far out, you know, the
grogs are still pretty god.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Well, enjoy your time. You have another couple of teams
out there, so enjoy your time and congrats again.

Speaker 13 (37:18):
Yeah, no, I really appreciate it, guys. I mean yeah,
all in all, you know, closing thought is it was
a fantastic experience for us and the girls. The girls
had a great time, once in a you know, kind
of once in a lifetime opportunity. Sad that we couldn't
close it out and make it to the next level.
I definitely think we could have competed out there, but
the girls gave it they're all and we look forward
to maybe doing it in juniors next year what have you,

(37:40):
and having a run out here with with our club
teams in Orange County.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, thanks Mike, Mike Scott from thorny Dale Little Legue.
Appreciate your time.

Speaker 13 (37:48):
Appreciate it, guys, Thank you so much.

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They do well, you know, because if they do well,
everybody does well here. I mean that's part of the problem.
Where not that we're in bed with them if they
do well.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
If you guys are nobody cares, Yeah, nobody cares.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
No, And that's and that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah,
because otherwise doesn't mean anything, right, you know, it's links, clinks,
blah blah blah. Yeah, calls, calls, Yeah, people carried or
people bitching about firing a guy.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Well, and again, I don't think airs in a football.
Let's say they're horrible. Okay, how many calls are going
to really get the same just the same people you
just want to Yeah, same people. But that's how the
apathy hits. And it's not Alabama.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, and people here in Tucson's already kind of apathetic.
I mean, you grew both. You guys grew up in this.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm not talking any different. And it'll build cause I'm
tough on the tough on the fans. But you guys
see it, you guys were fans.

Speaker 15 (44:22):
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Speaker 2 (44:22):
At some point, anybody want to call, please do five
two zero four one forty will take your calls. We
got about ten minutes. Yep.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I put I put this question out on my social media.
Want to see what you guys think if you put
yourself in the eyes of Arizona fan?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
What would you rather see first?

Speaker 3 (44:41):
A second basketball national championship, a first football national championship,
or something else like the first Rose Ball.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
We talked about this with Jay because he's the diehard
in the room.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I've had this question before.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well, and apples to apples because we know that the
difficult nature of witting and that time of football is possible. Yeah,
and Rose bull well, that's kind.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Of the the aura the Rose Bulls kind of gone.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Now it's not big ten pack twelve anymore. It's part
of the college football playoffs. So even if you win it,
you lose the next game, Well, their.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Chance of making it the dream is gone. But okay,
how you get it?

Speaker 4 (45:25):
I'd say college basketball championship?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
What's what? How'd you phrase it? What would you rather see?

Speaker 4 (45:29):
First?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Football? Football national championship? Would be like, holy crap, what
is the world ending tomorrow? And what's how many souls
did I sell to get to this? The reason why
I'll never get to heaven if that happens.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
The reason why I say basketball because I just can't
picture the football team winning the national championship.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
No, no, but I think I think, come on, deep down,
that's what you would rather see.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
That's the question. What would you rather see first in
a perfect.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
World and a perfect I guess because it's never been done,
because it's.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
It's a unicorn, you know, what's you know what can
be done in basketball? Yeah, And here's a question. Do
you think you're gonna see a national title in your lifetime? Basketball?

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Yeah? I do.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
How old are you? I'm thirty, So, uh you're started.
You were three years you were three years old, two
years old, you were not born? Do you think I
was five years off? Okay, So do you think you
say you'll see one you'll be how old?

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Oh god, I don't know. Maybe forty something. You never know.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Tom will be Tommy all right, Well maybe maybe. I
think he's very capable of To me, it was one
of it was one of those one offs. I mean,
it helped the hell out of me. I got to
I got to write some books. I can't even say it.
I wrote some books, you know, first one that's what
started it. But that that too is kind of like
a holy crap, look at this.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
It the luck of the tournament is so hard to
no question, no question. I mean, you see programs like
North Carolina state when they're not very good make a
final four. So we think eventually it will happen. And
I think once there's gonna breaks that final four clip
if it's Tommy, you could see multiple And I'm not
saying like, hey, they're gonna go to four, I'm not

(47:15):
saying that, but four in a seven year span if
you have the right clatch in place and you break
that ceiling, and.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Well, only they haven't been to win in two thousand, yeah,
twenty five years, twenty four years.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
And they've been closed three three times prior to get
to the funnel, to get to the final four. But
you got to break that ceiling first.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, and he you can sense and how he talks
to us and kind of says, you know, Houston's been
there eleven years. Yeah, Yeah, he's got it. He's got
to do it. I mean, at some point he's got
to do it. So what what's your answer to that question? Personally?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Football, Yeah, because it's a unifor unicorn. And what's the
ones you put it up today?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah? About maybe an hour ago.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Oh so do you have boots I scot one that
said the second National Championship ball And this is a
question that can go anywhere. You know, maybe women's basketball
with their first m Yeah, that's another men's men's tennis
could get there. In my opinion, Yeah, that's a that's
a solid program.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I think out of the non rev sport, out of
the non power like football and basketball, right now, I
would have to say baseball has the best shot, yeah,
out all of them. Right, And again I don't I don't.
I don't watch golf. I don't cover golf. So it
listens to the golf team Tennessee, and I just what
was last time they want? Do you want to supple? Oh? Seven?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh seven? So then could be twenty some.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Years and with again we talked about that one year
contract for Caitlin Lowe that she just got. I do
it's not happening with this coaching staff. I'll say that
it's not happening with this current staff.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
And that's more blue blood than any of the program
I'm sure outside of maybe swimming.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
If you get the next coaching hire right, because I
think there will be another coach soon, then okay, then
they jumped to number one on that list. But until
you do that, what do you have right now in
front of you? I think baseball is the best shot
out of all of them.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
And world, the world has taught you over the being
a UA fan and seeing the things that what you've
seen and you've seen in thirty years and twenty three years,
what do you think the chances are?

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
What, give me some odds for just an overall there
was one to win the football championship. Give me the odds. Oh,
I don't think that's that's five years. Will give you
twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
One and one thousand.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
What Holy crap. I'd put ten bucks on.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
That for football to win a championship.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Ten bucks on that to win a lot of thousands. Yeah, okay,
So what about basketball? I'll give you twenty five or
twenty five years one one and one in twelve, one
and ten that could happen. That's a good I think
that's a good number.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Well, yeah, I think football is astronomically high.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, I totally agree with you. That's why that's why
I say you don't quote. If you wouldn't, then this
town would explode.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Because I think in order to do that, obviously a
lot of luck, a lot of things have to show
your way. Sure, but what you're doing football, what you
need is that what Oregon got that boosts money that
you need a Phil Knight to come out of nowhere
from Tucson. Without Phil Knight, Oregon football is not where
it is. I mean when once they start once that

(50:43):
became a big thing with and all that.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Why isn't the basketball program the boy it is.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
I mean, it's relevant, it's decent, it's good, it could
be better.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
My boy, your boss or your old boss. We used
to go through a solid time. Old kids love these
videos and he loved the money. Okay, what has it
done for them?

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Not a damn thing. I mean they got into a
Final four, more than Arizona recently basketball.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, well even more so to talk about Arizona basketball,
Come on, Gonzag has gone there too. Yeah, you know
Baylor Butler Butler twice.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I'm not here to rag. I'm not here to ragging.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
My point is reality, Oregon was pretty much the bottom
of the barrel football program in the eighties, seventies and
eighties and part of the nineties.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Once they're also good. They had, they had their moments.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Sure, but once that that night, once Mike uh, Mike
Pilatti got in there, the Nike Miney took off Chip
Chip Kelly got in there with the creating the Nike
in it. Everything just hit. Yeah, they wouldn't be where
they were without Night.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Sure. They just want to still the best campus I love.
I love that campus. I've ever been there.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
You've been everywhere I have in the West. Uh okay,
anything else? Can we get out of here? Get about
a minute? Yeah, we can go early if you want.
Whatever whatever Steve wants from Steve this happy hours and more.
Let's we get start right now. Yeah. I see you
guys tomorrow. Thanks for coming in guys. I'll see you
guys tomorrow football with a lot of football conversation. I

(52:22):
think Dave Silver will be with me tomorrow. We'll see
how he's feeling.