Monday, July 7, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Really, welcome back to Eye on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Steve Rivera.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Your Troy Hutcherson from Arizona Wildcats on SI.

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Find Troy and got ready with breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is Eye on the Ball, breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
A lot of stuff taken, kinda kind of a little
bit of some old stuff. You know, he took a
week off, but it's breaking to us. It's news today. Yeah, exactly, this.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
News is news to us.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
That's that's right. Came out last week.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
But Arizona has a couple Arizona women's basketball has a
couple players playing for their international teams.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
We haven't talked about this. That's good.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
The first one is well, she already played. She just
finished her group stage at the FOEBA U eighteen euro
Basket group stages.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is my area where she's from Spain, Spain, Okay, and
she's new to Arizona.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, she's an incoming freshman and she came off the
bench in the group stages.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Had well.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
She averaged six six points, three rebounds, and an assist,
just under a steal per game, and she went five
for twenty but so not not an excellent showing, but
you know she's she's working her way up, but also
in that kind of realm.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Sumaya Sugupong I hope.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
I said that right is going to be playing for
the Philippines in the FIBA Women's Asia Cup in China,
and that starts next week. I think on well, it
starts the thirteenth. I'm not sure what day. That technically
is kind of keeping it in the house. Two big
weekend for recruiting. Tro I'm sure you had. He wrote

(02:12):
some stuff on that a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Big
one was well, there was a a couple of big ones,
but Prince Williams was one of one of the big
names yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Khalil Sonogo was also in that one.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
They don't have everything that I could see, well, I'd
have to look for it on Twitter. But yeah, just
he was recruiting.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
So the one from yesterday from Dallas was it from Dallas,
the kids from Dallas, the three Stars from Dallas, Uh,
he saw it on TV.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, he was recruited or turned down cal and Vegas.
I think it was other offers as well, but.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, so so, I mean kind of that's how
the layman, the normal people watch. Well, if he's being
recruited by Notre Dame in Miami, that's a good get.
But if it's cal in Vegas, doesn't really matter. I mean,
you do this for Limmy and I don't care about recruiting.
So is it okay? Is it okay?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Not okay, that's not the right word.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So if he turns out cal in Vegas and comes here,
did they get.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
A good one?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think they did.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
It's an offensive liignment that has been growing over the
last couple of years, developing quickly and has got a
more buzz as of late. You look at his bodywork
and his footwork, excellent footwork, moves angrily downfield, and I
think that's the thing that Arizona is going to be
going for, is aggressive offensive alignment. So I think it's
a steal, but I think really is getting in the

(03:42):
heart of Dallas, getting in Texas and having that that
footprints there is important.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
So let me ask you, you've been doing this in
a while. Now, of the hundred, that one hundred over
the last ten years, even do this seven the last
one hundred and the last seven years, how many actually
of the turned out to be Okay, what do you
mean recruits? I mean it's fifty fifty or hidden miss,
but it hadn't miss. I don't want to give you fifty.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
It'shi miss.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Of the hundred the recruits they've gotten in and just
one hundred, I'm just throwing random number. How many actually
worked out? Probably like thirty two, thirty two percent? Two
You never know, I'm gonna work out like starting no
actually serviceable, serviceable. Okay, we'll say forty five. God, it's
still not good enough. That's how it is.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, no, no, no, I get that.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I'm not criticizing you that because I'm sure it's not
the same in other schools.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
You know, they recruit them.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
They they hope they turn out, and but forty five
you need to be even at school seventy five.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Percent even that schools like Alabama. Oh, sure, your five
star kid. That doesn't mean you're great. I mean, no, no,
you're great. Yeah, all of a sudden, Oh what happened
to that five sarcut No.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
No, that's why I asked, because you would know, you
would know the people. Are these guys going to be good? No,
what do you think they transfer? Yeah, they're either not
happy or just not good enough for the spot they landed.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
In all of a sudd and you're like, where's that
five star kid that was here? Oh, he's that mass or.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
He was here? There was almost had a couple of Alabama.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Joe not Joel Joe justin flow, just if I can't
speak correctly, was the fire start kid out of Oregon
all came here and now he's transferred again.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
So I mean that's how it was with Jackson Arnold
from Oklahoma too. He like you know, he played last year.
He was in that Alamo Bowl game a couple of
years ago, and like you know, he had I remember
talking about Oklahoma fans like while I was there for
the game and everyone was like, oh, yeah, he's gonna
be awesome and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
He looked good. He looked really good in that game.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
In that game, yes, and then like in the season
he had times.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
So sometimes I have a good show, not all the time.
Maybe one of these is not all the time. So
let me ask you, so, what's the recruiting situation with
the quarterback from Oklahoma? What?

Speaker 6 (05:48):
I would say that the one that he committed from Oklahoma? Yeah,
that's probably dead, Oh is it? I would assume you
just got oscar Rios not to long. So who is
the kid? The kid was Jaden O'Neill.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
A month ago. There was hope. Right now, there was hope.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
But you get the four star kit of oscar Rios.
Do you recruit two four star quarterbacks that usually doesn't
pan out well in terms of.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, that's Jenkins product, right, Yeah, Okay, that's why I asked.

Speaker 6 (06:15):
But they did get an Ortiz Jenkins product in uh
Kee Trin Harris, the four star defensive tackle out of Chandler.
So out of Chandler.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
So what's the what's he?

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Do?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
You know?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I've had him on the show and I haven't really
asked him. What's he? He's kind of like the whisperer kind.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Of during the off season he trains these high level recruits,
high level prospects, and gets them ready either if they
want to gain weight, gain agility, uh slim down, whatever
they need to work on to get better at their position.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
To him and he's the guy helps them out. Okay, Yeah,
Ronnie Ville did that in Georgia? Or does that in Georgia? Well,
Ronnie Vale.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
I think he famously worked with what's his nay, Trevor
Lawrence before he went to Clemson.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Clemson, soa Poosa was another one that we didn't name
that also committed. He he was a three star, Yeah,
three star played on that or OC County was the
OC County what was that team?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Name? The Oscarios?

Speaker 6 (07:13):
And oh, let's scare I know you're dying, yes, escaping
me right now. But he was a part of that.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, he was also a part of that, and so okay,
gotta assume that helped probably.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
One for him.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
He had been recruited through with Joe Salavea dating back
to when Joe was at Miami, so they had a
long relationship there.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Position defensive defensive line.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So anytime you get a defensive lineman or offensive lineman
and they're good, yeah, and then they're better than forty
five chance.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I asked, because it doesn't work out all the time.
It just does not just here. It doesn't work out
all the time there. That's why I hate recruiting.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, I mean you've seen it. At Arizona.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
They brought in what was that, uh forget his first name, Homes.
He was like the number one juco player. I was
covering the back, Yeah, Lewis Holmes, Lewis Holmes and just
size and looking at him.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
That was an NFL D the end. Yeah, he didn't
do anything, no.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, no.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
And there's been a few. I mean, rich Rod had
a few linebackers, the brothers, I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I want to say that.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I forget their name now, and it's all great. You know,
we got this guys just on the festa when the
festival didn't pan.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Out well, and he had those four star linebackers come
in where and Miller and uh that's where? Yeah yeah,
the where's the brothers?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Cobb?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah yeah right right yeah, and then you have a
two star guy who's fantastic.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Yeah yeah, keeping it going.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Arizona football didn't have a player on the Big twelve preseason.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, conference, thanks for doing that.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
That came out just a while ago.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, earlier today. I mean, you got to prove yourself,
you know, had it down here.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I think there's one player on the roster that deserved it,
and that was Jennis the Smith. Uh phenomenal here. Last
year they had to play that linebacker. They had to
play him at safety sometimes corner. He was like that
Ramsey kind of yeah, I mean, just go anywhere, dude.
He can play all over the field. And he's projected
to be an NFL draft pick. I think by the
end of the season, if he has a good year

(09:10):
and goes well in the combine and everything, you could
see him sneak into that first round. I think he's
that type of tallon where he's one of the better
safeties in the country.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
So so Vick our crack correspondent out there wherever the
Juice County.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Buck Eyes there, Juice County Booky picture. Thank you You're
chicks in the mail.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Happened yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
But co Pete earned his fourth gold medal and Tommy
Lloyd's his second as Team USA won the Foeba U
nineteen World Cup.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It wasn't that kind of almost guaranteed.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yeah, Well, I mean they had to get past yeah, Canada,
that was the big game, and they grinded it out
and got past that everything else. They won by an
average of thirty nine points. I mean they were killing
team No.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, and I mean, you know, that's that's not to
say like the cow team is played too. I mean,
Germany gave him a good run in that for like
first half yesterday, So that was that was pretty cool
to watch. The Rockets and the Astros are committing some
money after some flooding in Houston teas and piece to

(10:17):
all those that are affected. But yeah, that's I mean
a little bit of a feel good story right there.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
But got under the circumstances.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, it's been really tough, right Yeah, I used to
live in that area.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
It was it's hard to imagine.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, staying with the NBA, the Suns and Devin Booker
have agreed to a two year, one hundred and fifty
million dollar extension that keeps him till twenty thirty.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
One hundred and fifty the two years seventy five each.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yep, well worth it.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Well he's actually doing stuff, he's not.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's very good. Yeah, seventy five million.
That's seventy five.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Million, Yeah, three hundred and twenty one over the next
five seasons.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Some people don't even save I mean, if you're if
you're looking at James Harden, who just got two years
eighty one million. Then, yeah, Demon Bucker deserves more than
James Harden. For eighty one dollars, you could have sponsors
on the show today, call me on the show eighty
one hold dollars.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
A couple of trades that happened today, Well, like happened.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
The Clippers, Oh yeah, sent Norman Powell to Miami. John
Collins is also going to LA and Kevin Love and
Kyle Anderson are going to the Clippers as well for
a second round.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Utah, you surprised that Kevin loves do in the league.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
He's been there forever. Well, I mean I was looking
over Russell teammates too, though.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I was looking and it's well, I'll just bring this
up now, Kyle Lowry, I didn't realize it was the
twentieth season. But he's going back to the seventy six
ers for a year. But man, I remember, man, Chris Paul,
they're all his last year.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
He said, yeah, you did? You were you gonna announce that.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
I was, But it's okay.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Announced it. But he doesn't have a team.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, this could be his last year before last year,
the one who signs.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Him, it could be his last week. No one no one.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
A couple of trades just got finalized as well. I
guess you couldn't. You can't finalize the trade until the
actual restart of the new league year, which was I
believe yesterday or today. But that Drew Holiday one got
changed it a little bit. Uh, the Celtics are going
to get and Anthny Simmons and yep, so okay, diving

(12:48):
Backs starting the series in the Division against.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
The My bad. I mean it was wonderful bad, my bad.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I mean honestly, honestly, that's what I wanted to say.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, that's not myself. I mean, they're there, they are
what they are that I feel like, uh, what was
that coach for the Cardinals? Green Green?

Speaker 6 (13:22):
They are who we thought they were because that's the Dinambacks.
They go on this little streak of three four games
and like, oh maybe they figured out and then they
just think it against really bad teams.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
That's how it goes. Oh this is an interesting one too, though.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
So Clayton Kershaw got announced as a All Star and
it was over Soto, it was over Mookie Bets. But
it's like Manfred did it himself and called it like
a legend pick.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
They've done that before, and I think it's I think
it's I think it's a load I say that. I
mean they've done it for Jeter, they've done it for
Chipper Jones. But they played the whole entire first half
of the season. Right, you're talking about a guy that
played what three starts? I mean three starts? Yeah, maybe
like three or four y.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, he doesn't deserve it.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
No, And it's I don't know, man, it's you.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Can honor him next year when he retires. Have them
come out on the first pitch.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, it's just uh, you know, people say that leagues
aren't biased, but yeah, you know, that's how it goes.
That's mostly the Wings for all those basketball heads are
up there. Uh, the Dallas Wings are going to be
playing the Phoenix Mercury today. Mercury second in the Western
Conference if you want to take a look at that

(14:41):
at seven pm. Mercury are favored by six and a half.
But yeah, that's that the under. That's that's breaking news.
So that the under, the thunder, the under, Oh, the under.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So they say always, you know, before I was on
a plane, a shout out to the guy the next
break because he gets offt work at ports. Uh, give
me the over unders on desert on desert on draft
Kings and fendle about wins for Arizona. What do you
think the over under is for football football? I gonna
say it's four and a half. I think it's like
five and a half. Both, it's both. One is four

(15:15):
and a half, the others five and a half. I'm
thinking you bet the four and a half. You wonder
what you're gonna do with the five.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
And a half.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I think four and a half. You bet the over. Yeah,
well it's four and a half, but it's one seventy
minus one seventy, so it's you're gonna, you know, lose
some money, which it makes sense, right, five and a
half is almost even money, so kind of you know.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
But I would still probably go over on both. Yeah,
I think they're gonna win six games.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think they're gonna win six to seven games. Yeah,
that's why that's why you bet over. Yeah, you know,
what do we know now in the first week of July?
But I still think it gotta win six.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
I would say hold off till you see what you
what's there in training camp.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, things are gonna change by then, I mean now
you have numbers. I think if you feel good about it,
do it now because it could change. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think they will win six seven games, so that they,
I think, is going to do a tremendous job as
the offense coordinator. And I think just the revamping of
the defense staff's gonna help.

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Speaker 2 (21:25):
Hey, welcome back to and the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
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Speaker 2 (23:00):
What's coming up tomorrow? A Big twelve, the twelve media
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Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yes, so it'll be interesting to see what other teams
have to say about the conference. I'm assuming either tonight
or tomorrow we're going to see conference standings come out.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
The vote, the vote, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't even know who they asked or do they
Are they going to have them? Did they say somewhere
that they're not going to have voted? They're not.

Speaker 14 (23:24):
I don't think so, Google, Google, I think so. We're
not doing a poll they're not doing didn't you mention
that maybe they're not doing all? They're not doing it,
like the Big Twelve isn't doing an official poll? Like
obviously you can make your own.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
But yeah, yeah, In fact, the Big Twelve back in
the day, the Bay Area papers, did they all the
newspaper guys did their own poll.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, yeah, but that's strange. So what do you think
they'd fall ten?

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Probably somewhere between eight and ten, yeah, yeah, tens, maybe
even far maybe further Yeah maybe twelve. Yeah yeah, that
eight to twelve rings. I think look outside of the top,
they deserve it. And outside of the top, let's say six.
Everybody else wasn't very good, like Kansas was projected to

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be near the top.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
They's stun class year. Yeah, Central Florida, they're going through
a coaching.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Your team the t Did you see the team? Did
you call it up when you said there was no
players were not on that list? Did you?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh? Because the issue had well, the quarterback, the quarterback
is the wide receiver, projected player of the year, offensive
player of the year, the wide receiver, have a couple
of linemen, a couple of defensive players. Four or five
guys on that list. I think they would probably be
pay or to win the conference. They had three, three
on the first team or the whole list. Well, it's
just the offense, Yeah, just the offense. First team. Preseason,

(24:42):
they had three. This is the team that was projected
last year. The finished last yep.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
And to be honest, if you just looked at them
on paper rightfully, so nothing stood out.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
To you for sure, coach or yeah, just you know,
what do you expect new quarterback?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know?

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah, that would have everybody liked skattaboo. And outside of that,
it was like, how are they going to get stuff done?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So we'll see what happens. I think the pressure is tough.
It's gonna be tough to stay at top.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
Surprised me that Texas Tech's been I'm getting a lot
of hype.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Didn't they did?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
They buy a lot of players? Oh yeah, see, and
that's the whole thing they're doing it and softball is
over here. They have oil money. Yeah, they have that money.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
So other Texas schools do too, mm hmm. So what's
up with Texas Tech?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Texas Tech good?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
So they're spending that.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
You just they just gave five million dollars to an
offensive linement five star kid. That is the number being
thrown around, five million dollars for a five star regroup
in addition to whatever they're doing the rest of the recruiting. Yes,
that's jump shan and I saw somewhere because the Texas
kid that Arizona just got that you talked about Khalil

(25:50):
made comments about it in Texas fans and Texas Tech
fans were comedy. They had like a thousand something clicks
that Texas was extremely livid that he went to Texas
Tech and made a big deal about it, and he
had Texas fans attacking this kid for choosing Texas Tech
over Texas for the money. He's like, well, that's ironic,

(26:11):
because what do you guys do do the time, and
now that it happens to you, now you have a problem. Yeah,
you have a Welcome to America baby, Yeah, you have
a nil Deald Lambo, so.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Welcome to America. We could do it, but you can't.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
It was surprising that MSU isn't like kind of like
doing the same thing, considering like, I mean, everybody talks
about that being the rich school.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well that's when that's what started this whole thing in
the in the eighties with the Mustang at least visible.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was you know Craig and.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Eric.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's where Yeah, I used to live in
Dallas before I got hearing it. It was all the
big news back in the mid eighties.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, and now though I know similar lead to Calm
not saying that cal was playing Aarian players back in
a day, but we were those Will those boosters and
universities allow that to happen because of what happened back then?
Like cal Yeah, Marshaun Winch, she had Deshaun Jackson. They
had all these guys getting in the cow yep, that

(27:15):
weren't testing in the cow, right, they were helping them
get in. And I think that, well that that's kind
of their propositions. Yeah yeah, but now there they have
such strict rules and they're not bending.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, it was what happened during the Dedford era. Sure,
So my point is what SMU is like, will they
go back trying to do that? Yeah, well even though
it's legal, Yeah no, I don't. They don't want that
reputation again. Yeah, I know, because it's hard to it's
die hard time.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, I get it. We'll see. I didn't know that
when who's the five million kids.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Offensive line in something? Felix?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I forget the first one out of high school?

Speaker 7 (27:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Out of high school? That is the number that was
thrown around, is fine?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Knowing?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
How accurate is it?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Right, Yeah, we'll see. It's funny because Caleb signed his contract.
I think it was five seventy five. I think I
saw it on Twitter.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
I think got I think he got to depending on
incentives and stuff, around seven hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, he's taking a pay cut.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah yeah, I mean they were talking about one point
one to bring them back.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
So you look at that, that's a pay cut.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
I mean he was out of eligibility, so sure, sure
if he had another year and you're looking at that
or back, come back.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
We look at Ballow and these guys, if the reports
aren't correct, over a million dollars and now you're making
whatever you're making.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Ballow was reported to get two point three. Really, I
thought it was one point two. I heard two point three.
But they weren't going to give Bollow that money and
so he made his money in Indiana. But like you said,
let's say it's five hundred thousand, six hundred thousand. They're
taking a pay cute.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
It was Felix Oho and actually on this article it
talks about how they spent uh around ten million on
seventeen players, and I mean half of it's him.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
They better be good, dude, they better be I mean,
it's like.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I paid this money for that.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Well, we talked about that revenue share, the thing that's
coming down in the twenty million dollars and how much
of it was football, like fifteen eighteen whatever of the
twenty that's where it's all going.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
So did you guys get your red blue tickets?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
But I didn't realize you went to the game football
game just because you're that big of a fan. In
the Oklahoma game.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah, well I was.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
It was a bowl game.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Yeah, I was working it.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Oh you went.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Okay, God did and take me?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
But yeah, good for you. But did you work it
with him? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, you paid your way. Yeah, not that you need
to answer these stupid questions. I mean, but that's cool,
not good for you. I mean, it's good for you.
It's kind of a reward for you. It's just like
it's obviously you want to.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
I don't know when you like thinking about like future
jobs and stuff like that, you're available like availability.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeahs, like exactly, you're smart dude. Where I was going
to go with this, I can't remember because I'm old. Yeah,
I try to add coming in do whatever.

Speaker 12 (29:59):
That is.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Just God, what were we talking about before that? Revenue
revenue share. Yes, oh, the Red Blue game. So I
get a friend of mine text me, and I was
gone last week, so I didn't pay attention too much.
I guess the one on sale, right, they used to
be five bucks. I'm not sure they are five bucks anymore.
Talking about twenty twenty one of them, he said it

(30:21):
was forty what forty but those were like the premium
seats for a Red Blue game. And let me tell you,
you know how much I love the Red Blue game. Yawn,
you're ready for two of them?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, I'm glaying because the second one, so I guess
the lowest is fifteen, you know, forty, So that's not bad.
And that's how the rev I'm sure that's part of
the revenue share. Yeah, it has to be, because these
guys here at there is on now. I'll have to
figure out waste them get that money. And again you're
still looking. I know it's gotten better, but you're still
looking at a deficit that isn't completely shotne yet. Sure No,

(30:54):
six million, six million probably wiped out in the next year. Yeah, yeah,
so all that is get to go towards that, get
that take and gear of right, plus the fifty dollars
surcharge on the tickets that you're gonna.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Get until he's the worst those fees?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Are you still? Are you working for Brian again this year?

Speaker 5 (31:10):
He hasn't text me usually text me at the beginning
of the month.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, cool, Well, and then think about for students. They
already charge you an athletic feed, right, and that's gonna
go up. Yeah, that athletic fee. Yeah, no, it's tough.
These are tough times. These are time for certain schools.
Yeah yeah, and then they need to sell the whole
the season tickets. I don't know what the season tickets are,
do you know? They haven't announced the number, which isn't good. Right, Well,
they have time, they have time. I'm just saying. Usually

(31:34):
if it's good, they're going to be like, oh and
you've been here all your life? Yeah, you know, I've
been here a few years. Let's assume a second day,
you're projected to finish twelfth, tenth. How are tickets sales
going to go? Not very good?

Speaker 7 (31:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Right?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
They were top three. People are gonna go watch well.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
To be fair, they went well this past season when
they're projected to be top five and the top twenty five,
team number twenty one in the country, and then all
of a sudden, after the first few games, that attendance
went downhill.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
No. I remember walking out as a fan, not as
a fan, but I went as a fan because I
was invited to at the game and we sat sat
in the north end zone. And in fact, i'll talk
about this later north end zone. I'm thinking, God, those
speakers sound horrible. I guess you know, when you don't know,
you know, right, And now I know because they have
a lot of work to do with that stadium. I'm
not breaking any news here because it was my first

(32:28):
first time going as one of those guys, and I think, God,
there's a lot of stuff in the game, the experience
not so good.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Uh, and well, just they got to fix that place.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
Up well, and they've made renovations. But they've done it.
I don't want to say the cheap way, but budgeting.
Because I remember when Dave he was there, Dave and
Jed both wanted grass. They wanted a grass field. They
wanted to bring back the natural grass, and they settled
for another artificial fur because it's cheaper at the moment
than it is grass. Well, long run and maintenance. It

(33:01):
may be a little bit more expensive upfront, the long run,
it is cheaper than natural grass.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
So they got that down. They got this.

Speaker 12 (33:08):
You know.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
I'm sure they're making those adjustments where we like this,
but we're gonna take plan B.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Wait till you have kids, Troy, Daddy, I want this
swy Son. You won't be able to get that. It's
a happy meal for you, Kirkland brand.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Word so right now, Hey, Costco got some good stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
That I thought.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's correct me Yeah, okay, never mind? God, what else
were we talking about? The football situation with tickets good
luck and you know this town and the bill called
me what two years ago? Sorry, Nic, I'm gonna bring
it up again. I rag on the fans, but it's
every fans. If you're not winning, they're not gonna go. Oh,

(33:51):
that's a really loyal I'd not for football, two sons,
not that town. It's it's not a football town. You
have to hack riche Rod was here and he was
averaging seven wins a year. Now, there are other problems.
I'll agree with that, but Attendants wasn't great during that.
I would venture against basketball too. I mean basketball when
Sean was not doing well at the end of his career.

(34:13):
They weren't showing up. Twelve thousand people were showing up
in twove and a half. It's still it's not what
it usually is. It's still a very good number though,
oh of course, yes, But when you're Arizona, it's not
it's not.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
It's like I was on a plane with with Mike.
I think he might be off by now.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
He was talking about that it's just the fans and
things like that, and I was saying, they're a hard
cell won the fans here. And Tommy was accurate with
when you said new fans need to Kansas talking about
at the end of the year, and was he wrong. No, no,
you know I was at that game. Again.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
I think the Kansas squad was a little bit overrated,
and we talked about that. But they're there, they're early,
they're there early, they're there after.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
We were at Duke. They're there very or thereafter. To
be fair for the Duke situation, I thought, I still
think that that's an overrated crowd in my mind. Let
me say why Duke, But I mean Stanford. Back in
the day when Arizona and Mike Montgomery and Luke would
go to ad That was a fantastic place Oregon, same
type of thing, but it's a it's a nine thousand

(35:18):
seat venue. I think if you shortened McHale or limited
to nine thousand, it would be be an incredible environment. Yes,
for sure. If you put Duke in fourteen thousand, will
they fill it all? Fifteen thousand will fill it all?
Will they act as crazy? You know what I'm saying,
it could be a little water down. I don't know
if it would be.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Yeah, but okay, well, let's use North Carolina as an example.
I'm what's there saying, like.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Scenes quite bigger than that, but I've been there. It
was when a play in North Carolina crush. People talk
about that being kind of an underwhelming Yeah, I totally agree.
I was there when Arizona got beat there and it
didn't overwhelm me. I mean, it's a story place, but
the crowd wasn't that great. Maybe because it was a
bad game, don't know. Okay, let's go. If you're an

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What's up for you now with your little your little projects.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
Yeah, you know we're gonna be doing a lot. We're
gonna be doing power four list. We're gonna be doing
uh linebacker list?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
So you do the one not today? I went not
today so they could read it the corners see the cornerbacks.
So was that difficult a little bit? For the fifth spot?
I think the fifth spot was the most difficult part there.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Okay, So Darryl Lewis is dB.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Do you do?

Speaker 3 (41:27):
What about cornerbackson?

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yeer, those are the top three right there.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Okay, okay, give me your who's your first?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
The first Christmas calliser?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Oka? Yeah, probably the better athletes of all them.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, Darryl's number two? Yeah, case you have fantastic here
case on Okay, who's uh, who's three?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Four or five? Well?

Speaker 6 (41:47):
The case Soon's number three? Okay, So that there's that
Jackie Wallace number two, Okay, second most career interceptions in
U of A history there, I can't remember seventies seven
point eight.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Do you spent a lot of time on these things?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (42:03):
Yeah, so research kills you just as much. There's research
too it yeah. And then Randy Randy Robbins, okay, that
going out the top five early eighties.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah. Yeah, So how are you going through this? We're
going no, no, but how are you going through? I
mean going through record books.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
You're going through going through record books, talking to like,
let's say my dad, who's in terms of older U
of A players, trying to find stats because they're to
be honest, there's some of them where they played so
long ago. You have A isn't keeping stats on them anymore?
You have A doesn't have that available.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
So what how did you find about Wallace?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Wallace? Uh career?

Speaker 6 (42:42):
If you go to career touchdown I mean interceptions leaders,
he's on there for there. And then if you google
his college stats, you had a sports reference and there's
his college Chuck where Chuck Well, Chuck's safety I would
have been safety group.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
And you haven't done that on yet.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
No, not yet. Okay, that's you know what that's coming
up fafeties.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
How much do you like numbers compared to eye tests?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Good question, Thats a good question.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
That's a great question.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
I think you could do the eye tests is great
and all, but if the numbers are so stacked up
again someone, then I think you would have to give
it to the numbers like I think Tron Cannon. It's
about a running back than Kadeen Carrey. I had Kadem Carry.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Why you say that you biased a little?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
No, I mean I watched Kadem Well I didn't watch.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
And that's my point because let me say this.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
When you go have you been back to your high school, Jim,
when you're a kid and small kid or whatever, you
think this is pretty nice. It's pretty nice. You go
back now, it ain't that big, right. I mean your
eyes are different. Your eyes are different when you're younger
and you see things and then you get there and
you say when you get all these okay, big deal.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
See.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
I do respect the past in terms of sports that
know about the past of U of A. The reason
why I would have Trunk Candadate ahead of Kadeen Carry,
but I put Kadem number one is because he had
better speed. Kadem didn't have that break no, no.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
No, but he also didn't was in the workload that
kade No.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
But Kadem didn't have an uh quarterback Calvin Evan behind him.
Kadeen didn't have a very good running back behind him.
Callvin was a solid running back Kadeen had. Okay, quarterbacks
Matt Scott.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Was very good. Okay, So you're saying that he had
to do that?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, there was who else were you going to get?
What was the guy from president? Wasn't that was after Kadeen?
That's well didn't he help him out time or two?
Or that was directed after? No that he was not
on the year after? Okay, I tell you how much
I remember. Okay, So, but my point is, so was
who's his backup? Who's his back uh Jennings? I can't
remember Dan Jennings or David Jennings something. Yeah, so then

(44:51):
he had to clear the ball through that.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
I mean, they weren't gonna in Arizona's offense with Richard,
especially the year with bj Denkor as quarterback.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
You weren't going to slean it all over the place
with Anker. So what else were you gonna?

Speaker 17 (45:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
That game?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Fifty two carries? So you what give me your list again.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
For running backs, it was Kadeen Carry number one, Tron
candidate number two, on Twine Carter number three, number four.
I'm sorry I did this list a couple of days ago.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Number four was Nick Wilson and wow, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Is that slim pickens for running backs?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Because no, he was good, but he was. He was
very good.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
He's top five all time in rushing and I know
injuries played a huge role, but he was very he
had one of the best freshman season and ink of ages.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
And then number five Mike Bell. Well, a lot of
the dudes from here from this era last twenty five years,
twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah, I would have text my boy Anthony, oh.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
You know who I heard from on it? And you're
gonna laugh. David Adams, Oh of course you did, of
course you did. What'd you say, David? You missed a
by that much? I said, you're a clothes He goes,
what do you mean? I was close? So that yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
At his state is you don't go off the statsy,
go off of what you could do and D D
D and I get it. I conversation good ten minutes. Yeah, okay,
oh yeah, yeah, that was the phone call conversation.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
And David was a phenomenal running back.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
But you know, you have guys that were able to
put up bigger numbers throughout throughout the course of their
career at Arizona, and even leaving off a guy like
Clarence Farmer who ran into trouble and got kicked off
the football team for missing practices, but he was still
very talented.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Yeah, that's always what makes it tough, right, is like, uh,
you know, there's there's a lot of things that can
get in the way. I remember I had a I
had a our idea of my high school. He was like, yeah,
I played, I played college. I played college ball at
Washington State and I made it. Played for the Lions,
but I was back up the whole time, and everyone's like,
oh man, what happened. He was like, very safe, that happens. David,

(47:05):
give me that, give me Troy's number. He's my partner
in the pregame show. Obviously he's yeah, Dave Day would say,
he's dad David.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
David.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
Now one that I got criticized for, and I get it,
but I think if you let me give you go
ahead arte.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Time out, time out time out because Anthony just chimed
in off the top of his head, I said, because
he can't call it Kerry, Yeah, Lupino, Chuck, Chuck Levy,
David Adols.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Oh what he said, Troy was way off. But let
me tell you something. This is not a test. This
is this is the list. And guess who gets to
do that list you do. That's like people say, you
Second Radio, let me hear your show. Time to get
your show. I'll just listen to it when you get it.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, and you know, for Nick Wilson, he was a
touchdown machine.

Speaker 14 (48:00):
You remember that.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
You remember when you're racking up all those touchdowns. It's
hard to leave that off.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Well, I mean that's how it was with who's that
running back that he's not the Saints, big anime guy.
He has a nose ring James and Willy. He was
on the lines a couple of years ago. Oh he yeah,
he was on the same stuf. But like like you said,
like just touchdown machine is like you put him in

(48:30):
on like two yard line. It's like, uh, well you're
getting that generally, Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
So Anthony continues to text me, he said, Trade was
way off on that one. Hell maybe Vance Johnson over Adams,
but stick with Adams.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Twine Carter. It's one of the guys I covered back
in the day.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
I had him.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
He was number three on my list. Yeah, and Vance
and Vance. I think the theme there and one was
nice but not special, but very consistent. David Aldridge ever
Land up on that thing. Who yeah, David Eldridge. He
had the big game against U c.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
L a well.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
And then really, going back back in the day, is
uh Hubert Oliver very good running back?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Back back?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Quarterbacks? Have you done that yet? Quarterback? Okay? Give me
that one.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Number one Nick Foles.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Okay, we talk about this, Okay, so let me revisit this. Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Oh, I thought you were gonna go ahead because I
want to ask the quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
Okay, So number one Nick Foles, Number two I had
Willie two, Tama, number three, a New Solomon, number four
Keith Smith, and number five Tom Tom Tuncanliff got.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
This fast, okay, Tom? Yeah, Yeah, we did talk.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
About that because Tom's a favorite of mine on the show.
Good dude, very good back in the day. So I'm
getting Anthony's QBS. I think that's a pretty good list.
But there's there's some John for Jenkins back back in
the day. Ortiz Ortiz, Dan White would be another one.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Yeah, you should games to watch.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
What about you Oliver?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah he wasn't close to my list, okay, but yeah no,
he's very good that.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
It was Chris our guy by guy here pay the deck. Yeah,
oh it's big. Here we go, you know cool? We
get a minute? How much tell you?

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
I got a minute?

Speaker 3 (50:17):
You on the ear? Hey, Vick go you got a minute?
Got a minute?

Speaker 7 (50:22):
I know, I know real quick.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
What about Chuck Lebe?

Speaker 6 (50:25):
Yeah, no, he didn't have enough stats man, didn't crack it.
He was very good, had that great game against Miami,
but did.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Not crack it. He got to be in there somewhere, man,
when you win at the ball brother, Yeah, but it's
more than this one game. It's more than just one game.

Speaker 10 (50:42):
Okay, I got you, I got you, Okay, but I'm
putting Chuck in there somewhere.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
When when you do your list, let me know, we'll
talk about uh t Bell. Yeah, he made the receiver list. Yeah,
I don't think I'm telling him.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Okay, So here's Anthony's this Foles, Brooks, Iillant, Cliff Keith
Smith Freddink.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Fredink is pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I believe you. But hey, let me take you the
charm of this. And when I did the list to yeah,
guess who's this? It's your list. You can depend it
all you want. All these people are making lists, so
it's Troy's list for sure. When you when you're making
a steak and nobody likes a steak, don't eat the
steak if you want to. Well done, still hugging microwave it.

(51:34):
We gotta go, Thanks Ray, Thanks Troy. We'll talk to
you guys tomorrow