Monday, June 23, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Breaking down all the X is a ohs. This is
I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, welcome back to Why in the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve Riverta, your Troy Hutches Sin.
We got ready with breaking news.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
But first the first I just want to clear something.
I did mean Christian Conrad, not Conrad Mattertinez. Sorry, it's
both Conrads. I got it confused. It happens. Christian Conrad
is what I meant to say, the pitching coach for
pitching coach for Arizona. Obviously short little point card that
just transferred Conrad Martinez. It's not the pitching coach. I said, God,

(00:41):
that's interesting. They have the same name.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I didn't even catch all right, yeah, okay, sorry, question
myself too.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Okay, this is I.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
On the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
All right, after that that clear up, got some got
some cool stuff here. Colton Smith, ranked number one hundred
and thirty five in the world, is two wins away
from the main draw at Wimbledon.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
So I thought that was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Also in local news.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Colton Smith and former U of A yeah, tennis player.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, former U of a tennis player. Sorry if I
didn't preface that. This is a cool local one that
I saw. Dariel Rivero. I guess he comes from a
big baseball family here in the area. Has been is
gonna have a tryout for roster spot on the twelve
under national team for the World Baseball Softball Confederation.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Mm hm, and so female women no softball.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I mean it says USA Baseball this is and then
it also says World Baseball Softball Confederation. Okay, so let's
do both. I don't know how that works, but it's
on all sports to soon. Anybody wants check.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Mike, Mike, Mike, Christian Conrad will call us know her.
I've your Mike calls with that clarification.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Also, we kind of talked about this one already. But
Arizona signed chip Kill to a four year extension and
Arizona was ranked seventh in the final.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's about right. They were picked in the draft Kings
blah blah blah. They were the seventh favorite team to
win it all.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
So that was pretty Who's a Who's a Louis Murray
Louisville one.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I don't know why would say, Louisville, Murray State.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think Louisville, Yeah, Louisville sixth it was Louisville sixth,
U C l A, Oregon State, Arkansas Coastal and then
l s U.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Following that up, big news from yesterday, everybody's talking about it.
Thunder win their first NBA championship in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Obviously they won, uh one or two? I think in
Seattle one just one.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I think one.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I know they won one.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
For sure, I don't I'm not sure if they want
to want a second one. And then big news that
also came out today is that tyresee towards Achilles, so
he'll probably be out for next season. It's considering how
late it was in the year for for this year.
Moving on to baseball, I know Troy always likes to

(03:25):
talk about the Diamondbacks. Uh you know, uh, they lost
unfortunately against the Rockies, but they won the series yesterday,
or they lost yesterday but won the series, and they
have another one coming up against the White Sox.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So is that we're home.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Nope, No, hopefully the Pope doesn't influence any of that,
or you know, the divine.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You're telling him not to be involved in this is
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
You never know, you know, he's he's supposed to be
the big guys right hand man, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
So hopefully doesn't mess with it.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Stay out of politics and religion.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, hey, well, I mean he got into sports. I
stay out of sports too.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Another big, another big story.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Conrad Martinez is the pitching coach for you.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
May uh hey, he's a double threat. You know, double threat.
You can do it on the court and on the field.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
The Sons obviously made that huge trade yesterday for Or
they traded Kevin Duran.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'm sorry to the Rockets obviously.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
We already talked about how that could affect Carter Bryan's
draft stock.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
O Tani, gotta you get rock yesterday. No, he had
a couple of strikeouts.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Did he did he give up any runs? I don't
think he did.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Just went one.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, still just going one. Doesn't say when they're gonna
start upping that. But he threw eighteen. So staying fairly
uh conservative with the well Dodgers were saying fairly conservative
without arm Oh this is one that I kind of
surprised me in fis you I think former quarterback I

(05:15):
think it's said former quarterback on the headline, but I
don't really, I can't see it now. It's called out
Alabama even though this like they're playing each other this
coming season.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I think it's pretty early to start giving bulletin material.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
But I mean, what do you say he just said that, uh.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Said Alabama doesn't have Nick Saban to save them anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
He's right, yeah, it's not not not all the way
wrong and even four and three.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, and who knows what he's going to do considering right,
what happened last year.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, yeah, he shouldn't be talking crap after doing what
they did last year.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah, it's it's a bad look.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
That's is that it? Yeah, there's not a lot, there's not.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I mean, well, then the one trying to find that
one that you sent me the ritual report, Okay, yeah,
what it means?

Speaker 6 (06:10):
I don't know if you can get it up on
on there because your phone. That's interesting to me. Yeah,
so just like while I look for it, I could
preface it. The n c A A is I mean,
it was brought up.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I don't know if it's like really how much it
was debated, but it was brought up someone within like
the board or somewhere something like that is debating, or like,
like I said, brought up changing the betting rules to
allow players and staff which you know.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, to allow them to Yes, yeah, you might want
to read that more carefully that I don't think that'd
be foolish for them to do.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
That first paragraph is as n c double A leaders
prepared to decide whether to pass new legislation that would
allow college athletes, coaches, and staffords to bet on professional sports.
The idea of granting that permission reportedly has not gone
over well with the members of thirty five person Well,
oh professional.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, that kind of makes sense, but they still wouldn't
allow that. I still don't think that would better. No, yeah,
I don't think so either. No matter how prominent or
that gambling is in the world that we live in
and how they sponsor stuff now I can venues and
things like that, I.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Don't I don't think they would. Not only that, but
not that it doesn't happen already. But how many athletes
and coaches know athletes coaches at that level, sure, oh
that guy's I'm playing okay, cool? Thanks, got it know?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
And how many I think another thing too, is like,
how many NCAA players are really going to be able
to bet?

Speaker 5 (07:42):
You still got to be twenty one?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
True?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
True, but true, But it just opens up in another
can of worms. Wh I deal with it? Yeah, I
think it's better just to stay away from it. Yeah,
not that it prevents them already. Yeah, well that's for
another different topic. But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah, I don't know a lot of people. Uh, giving
how it's his name, Alex Caruso some heat?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Where did he play in college? Because he was undrafted?
He's another Yeah, yeah, he's another t J. Yeah, better
DJ Texas A and M. Really Texas A and M.
I never would have thought that. I would have thought
he's low. No, No, you know who plays it? You
know who played it in your Mexico Indianapolis, the Indiana

(08:34):
good player, the tall guy.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Myles Turner, no be topping, No, the other guy dating.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, yeah, they were pretty good when he was there,
foreign guy International.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's when.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's when New Mexico State was good, maybe three four
years ago, before all the trouble. I didn't even know
he did until I saw his name and I realized
he paid played that in New Mexico State. He's fantastic. He
would have been able to say them had you know,
he and Matren had a fairly good fourth quarter. I
guess it was, and and uh had a pretty good
third quarter.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, but once once you lose that, oh no, no,
you were you.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Were going to win that just given the you know,
the whole game to play like that.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, I mean and I think it, you know, for
you know, even though the outcome it wasn't with like
Pacers and and their fans wanted. I mean it was
it was until the third like halfway through the third quarter.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It was a good game, hey, with about three minute
stuff and they were up by twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I'm thinking that no.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Lead is safe given the the game three, the games ago,
whatever it was. But where Indianapolis lost the series was
the game five when they had that big lead and
then they gave it up.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
One.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah. I think it was Game four, one of those games,
game five, because you could have gone up three one.
Oh so game four they had a huge leader in
the game. I am not on it today, man, that's
getting it. It's freezing in he though, No, No, it
was Game four, because ye, yeah, it was Game four yeah, yeah, No,
I mean that's a big opportunity missed and now like

(10:13):
it was great for Indianapolis and you should celebrate making
it that far. But yea, when are you going to
get back?

Speaker 8 (10:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And is it even possible to get back with this?
Now that Halliburton is probably gonna be out for a year,
you're going to miss that year with them. Then guys
are going to get older, Then contracts are going to happen,
are not going to be the same. I think your
window of yeah and things can change, go ahead to
kill it right now? Your window is closing, Yeah, because

(10:43):
of the injury. I think the injury plays a massive rolle.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
What do you think about Phoenix with that trade? I
love the trade because.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Because one, it's hard to get anything for a thirty
seven year old they I think they could have gotten
a little bit more, But I'm fine what they got
in terms of the draft pick side of it. But
thirty seven year old making one hundred and not one
hundred fifty one million dollars, that's difficult to trade. Two,
he's not the same player. At three. You got a young,

(11:10):
talented player in Jalen Green. I know he's on a
big contract. But contracts are going to go up over time.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You get paid.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, but you know what, you know what everybody says
when he's on your team. He's a great team guy.
They all love him. Sure, he's one of those guys
you hate to go against him. But Phoenix has been
charm and soft. They've been soft as heck over the
last couple of years. You need that toughness. You need
something ever since mckel bridges left, ever since you got
rid of that core. And again I would do that

(11:38):
trade on hundred percent every time, but other things played out.
You lost that toughness. You get the tenth overall pick.
I think that's a bonus. I like Carter Bryant with
that before Hick before well they still have their pick,
the twenty ninth pain. So now you have two picks.
You get five second round draft picks, and I think

(11:58):
that's where you kind of lose me. You should have
been able to at least get one of your draft
picks back from Houston, so I would have wanted to
first round draft picks. So this tenth pick and a
future first but other than that, you have five second
round picks, which you could maybe trade up and get
into the first round. Late in that first round.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I thought they came out with the steal and Durant's old, right, yeah,
and he's he had a pretty good year this year.
We'll see what happens. Houston will be pretty good. Well well,
I mean, are they done? Probably not.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
So the one of the rumors out there is are
they going to be able to pair Giannis and Durant
in Houston? And does that work out? Because and is
that even.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Think about it?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
With him, he's just he's just a diva. It's just
it's just to pair anybody with him. Did you see
did you see the interview after he got traded, because
he was on a podcast during that Yeah, yeah, and
some of the reporter asked him about the trade and
your thoughts on leaving Phoenix. He goes, well, the fans
really didn't want me anyway. They're getting tired of me,

(13:03):
so now they got what they wanted. Bye.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, Well here's that dude, because he has there's burner,
he pays the stuff. Just just play.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I mean, I worry about it.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You pay me fifty one millions. I don't even need
to say hello.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
You could You could go out right now and tweet
at him, and he'll respond, oh yeah, yeah, which makes
no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I mean, what else are you gonna do? You know,
you're thirty seven in the off season under game.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Who's that guy on tweeting meat?

Speaker 8 (13:27):
There?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
But no, I think I think Jalen Green is a
good piece, and I think you could either keep Dylan
Brooks or flip them. Potentially. I think it's better if
they flipped. Okay, let's go, we go. What do we got, Yeah,
we can go for seventeen. Who do we have? Ryan Well,
Brian Peterson. Yeah, that'll be that'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1 (18:47):
Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app. This is I on
the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Hey, welcome back to One in the Ball here Fox
Sports feteen fifty m. Steve river your Troy Hutchison from
Gooisey Cats. Now we have Brian Peterson from Azy Desert Swarm. Brian,
how are you good?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Sure sure. Let me say this, it was probably a
matter of when, not if, right about.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Chip with the contract extension, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's something
that had to get done going into the final year
of his deal. Now, there are a lot of coaches
at Arizona that are in that situation, so there should
be other extensions coming soon for other coaches. But when
you're coming off a trip to the World Series, and

(19:38):
that's just the perfect time to do it, either during
or right after. So I'm not surprised that it came
at this point, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Looking at the run that they were able to have,
and we had you on the show, I believe right
before the College World Series and you're saying Arizona will
have success if the pitching staff holds up, they're able
to do that. And I know, you know themes played
in the eighth ennying that nobody realized what was going
to happen. But how impressed were you guys like Bailey,

(20:06):
Smith and others in that rotation.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Oh yeah, The starting pitching had been struggled in the
previous series, the first two games in North Carolina the
Super Regional, So to have Owenkrankowski and Smith Bailey put
up the starts that they did, they put Arizona in
position in both of those games. Those starters left the
games with the lead, and the bullpen had been a
strength all season. This team had not lost a game

(20:32):
that it was leading or tied after six innings all season,
and then it happened both of those games. You know,
you could call it regression to the mean, you could
call it just you know, law of averages. But they
the thing that hadn't happened to them all year happened
in those two games, and that's why they were done
so quickly.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
What was the mood like after the first two up
to the first loss and then the second loss? So
was the you know, is it different than basketball is
because baseball is always different.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Well, I mean because of the fact that it's a
double elimination tournament. You have the ability to bounce back
after a loss, and they had shown so many times
during the season the ability to do that, including in
the Super Regionals, So there was a feeling of, hey,
we've been through this before, we can bounce back from it.
There were some concerns that because of how painful that

(21:23):
first loss was, it wasn't a blowout, the one that
they were leading and then it fell apart at the end,
how they would handle that. But then the next game
they start out they're up to nothing. They made too
many mistakes along the way to they didn't give themselves
enough of a margin of er.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
At the end.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
And then after that second game, I mean, there's devastation
because suddenly it's all over. But I think that once
they got over that initial pain, they still were able
to reflect on how big of a season this was overall.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I talked to Michael Love for sure, maybe somebody else too.
But when you were most of all, if not all
games for Arizona, then if you were a fan, how
difficult was it to follow them? Because it seemed like
in the eighth or ninety and no lead was safe.
They didn't score enough runs for you one and then
who knew, at least in the last month that I

(22:14):
started paying attention, it was like, holy crap, you don't
know if that's enough, especially in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
Yeah, I mean that the offense was not as good
as expected, whether it be some injuries but just overall cohesiveness.
They weren't a team that was going to be regularly
scoring eight to ten runs a game. They were a
team that was going to find themselves in close games.
But they hadn't lost a game that was decided by

(22:42):
one run since the season opener, so they'd been able
to handle those pressure situations. I think if you had
been watching all along, it's stressful, but it also you'd
known that this team had been built to be able
to win those close games, and which is what made
it so surprising both those losses, especially since it happened
in the eighth inning of both, and both of them

(23:04):
were pretty much implosions, especially at the second one.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I think we talked about this Steve and I with
Michael lev during after everything, But obviously Summer Hill, a
tremendous player, had a great career at Arizona, but during
that postseason, all the injuries that he sustained throughout the
season seemed to maybe be taking a pull on him
offensively up there at the plate, and obviously when you're
going through a slump, that's another factor as well. Do

(23:30):
you think there was ever a time where Arizona maybe
he should have maybe mixed things up in the lineup
at the College World Series. I know it's hard to
do that in those moments, though.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Yeah, I wouldn't have taken him out of the lineup
because I think he still provides so much value with
drawing walks and his ability to put pressure on the
bases and all that. He wasn't hitting as well. He
just didn't have that whole power that he had had
before he was hurt. Where I might have looked at
trying to take him out of the outfield and make

(24:01):
him be the DH and have Andrew Kane, who'd been DH,
handle right field because he had filled in in the
outfield at times when Summer Hill was out. But I
think it was just a matter of they wanted to
go with the guys who were there, and that I
guess they just didn't feel that on the defensive side
it had as much of an impact. But it's weird.

(24:24):
It never looked like he was able to really get
a good jump on a lot of the balls to
him in right field after he got injured, And I
don't know if that was because he didn't want to
take too hard of a first step and reinjure. You know,
I can't speak for somebody injury wise how they feel
about not wanting to get hurt, especially when you are
a couple months away from signing a seven figure deal

(24:48):
as a signing bonus after getting drafted, but it was
pretty evident that there was something missing from him there.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Let's switch to basketball. Outside of Tommy Lloyd freaking out
when I didn't like Sonora Dogs and him kind of
messing with me when I said that Caleb Love hasn't
been listed in any lists and he him saying that
he's going to play in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
What do you think I mean?

Speaker 7 (25:14):
I wouldn't be surprised. I've seen that he's starting to
slightly move up some of these draft boards.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I don't know if he'll get drafted.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
If someone would really have to want to take a
flyer in the second round, maybe if it's a team
that has three or four picks through trades, that they
might want to take a flyer. But he's going to
get a summer league invite somewhere, and that seems like
a place where he could really really thrive too, because
he's playing with like minded players who are trying to

(25:44):
get on those spots. And I wouldn't It wouldn't surprise
me at all to see him be in someone's camp
and then end up being on their G League team
this year.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
That I don't disagree with. Yeah, No, I agree, And
that's a big difference of being on this roster at
the end of NBA level.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, we've seen with not only Tommy's guys, but Sean
Miller's guys as well, them get that summer league invite,
have a tremendous summer league all of a sudden they're
in the league. Treer kind of similar. But obviously he's
out of the league now, but that summer league invite
is so important for these players.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
Yeah, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't
end up on someone's summer league roster just for the
simple fact that you've got you need guys and you're
going to be playing a bunch of games in a
short period of time. And while that you do have
some of your existing players there that you want to
see what they can do, you pretty much have an
idea about them. You really are trying to find that

(26:40):
twelve thirteen fourteen guy on your roster and also building
the depths in the minors, and that's where he can
get that opportunity. And if he has a couple big games,
then he might start out on a roster and be
one of those you know, last on the bench guys,
or if they really feel like they want to develop

(27:01):
him more than and playing a lot of minutes, and
he'd be down in.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
The G League. Yeah. You know, one thing that was
mentioned during Tommy Lloyd's press conference, and I don't think
really was focused on that much from Tommy, was is
this going to be the final roster the world? There'd
be another edition. They do have room for, I believe
one more edition. But he said yes, yeah, he said, well,
he said they're always looking stuff like that. But I mean,

(27:24):
when you get to this point of this of the
off season, it's kind of hard to find that piece
that you want to bring in at this point, correct correct.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
I mean he's got technically he's got room for three
guys because they've got twelve on there plus the walk on.
That all three of the walk ons would be ones
that could count above the cap because of the the
NCAA House Settlement ruling with designating student athletes above the number,
So they do have some room there, But I mean,

(27:57):
there's not really anybody left in the portal that is
of any sort of value. And unless there were like
a coaching change that happened and someone went in the
portal that they could grab, they'd really just be adding
like either another international player or maybe some sort of
like a junior college or prep player. But again, it
would be from a development standpoint, And you wonder how

(28:19):
much more development guys you want when you're already going
to have seven freshmen on the team, and that's assuming
that the player from Germany ends up coming over. He
hasn't signed yet, but you just I don't know how
much you're going to have room for guys that aren't
going to play a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Right Well, he's in Switzerland now, who knows, and he's
playing against some pretty good players, so who knows what
you'll see from Tommy I will see what happens with him.
What else softball? I know you don't cover it all
the time, but your your site does. What do you
think about Caitlin's situation given that Chip just signed his.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Yeah, I mean should be getting a contract extension in
my opinion. I mean, I know that people expect World
Series every year, but that's becoming harder and harder in
college softball with the investment from other conferences. And I
think Arizona still wants to be one of the premier programs,
so that is an expectation and a hope each year.

(29:20):
But I think maybe giving her a couple extra years,
just adding on to it for security purposes. I know
that when I've spoken with desire Read transfois the athletic director,
she is more of the belief that there isn't so
much of a need to do that because college sports
have become a year by year transactional thing that a

(29:43):
long contract doesn't really have as much of an impact
on recruiting. But I think there's still something to be
said for rewarding a coach for what they have been
able to do and the amount of money it would
cost if you needed to buy out a contract like
that for a sport like softball is not very large.
This isn't like giving This isn't like giving Brent Brennan

(30:04):
an extension right now and then having to pay him after,
you know, if they fire him another year into it
or something, or even you know, Heaven forbid Tommy Lloyd
and all that.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Those are different.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
But but the smaller sports, I don't see there's I
don't think it costs you very much to an extent.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
So you've been you mentioned that at least twice in
this conversation in the last two hours. Right, surely so
did he? Did she say that to a group of
you guys or just individuals?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
No, I forget where I saw. I saw it somewhere,
and I forget where. It might have been Brian that
put it out on Socialeah.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yeah, it might have actually been Michael who wrote about it.
But what Michael and I Michael left and I kind
of cornered her when we were in Chapel Hill for
the Super regionals and uh, you know, asking about Caitlin
and asking about Chip and she had said that when
there's something to announce, then it will be announced. But
that I had asked about going into the final year

(30:56):
of a contract and being having that security of knowing
that you're beyond that. And she said, I've never talked
to a recruit who cared about the contract status of
their coach. That may be true, but parents, I think,
do feel a different way, and that they want to
know that the person that they're entrusting their kid too
is going to be around more than one year. So

(31:17):
I think there is value in having that. And again,
if not that much money, that it would really make
much of a difference.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, no question.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I've never heard that before from anybody, saying that, you know,
you want to be more secure with who you're going
to be playing for, But you're right, and it goes
And that's kind of like assuming that the player said
player signs and then leaves up for one year to
somewhere else.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
Sure, and in all the sports now, I mean, everything
is essentially a one year contract for all the players
unless they sign some sort of a deal beyond that.
But I believe even those have buyouts in them if
players want to leave, which is how you probably should
do it to prevent somebody from leaving after they've signed something,
just like you would with a coach. So I just

(31:59):
think while it's become a year by year thing, you
do want to try to lock in people that you
want to keep so that you don't give them incentive
to want to look elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Sure, you know, as we kind of talked about it
with baseball wrapping up the year, one thing that we
forgot to mention is that Arizona will be looking for
a new pitching coach with Kevin Vans taking the San
Diego State head coaching job after the tremendous job he
did here in Tucson. When you look at the pitching
coaching situation and potential names out there, who comes to

(32:36):
mind and what kind of lists do you have in
mind at this point?

Speaker 7 (32:41):
Well, I'm pretty sure that the job has already been filled.
The position is still listed on the website for an
assistant coach for baseball, and I think that might be
by state law it has to be open for a
certain amount of time. But all indications are that John
de Ruin, who had been the director of pitching Performance
and Strategy essentially the assistant pitching coach, is going to

(33:02):
be elevated to the pitching coach, and he was just
as involved and just as valuable to what's happened in
pitching here as Kevin Vance and he's stuck around. He's
not going with San Diego State, so he would be
in line to take that position, And from players and
parents that I've talked to who like on the pitching side,

(33:25):
him sticking around, along with another guy named Owen Cuff,
who was another pitching strategist who would probably then be
the assistant pitching coach. Those two sticking around has made
it so that I don't see any of their notable pitchers,
especially a guy like Kramkowski or Smith Bailey, going anywhere.
And there's still ten days left in the portal, but
Arizona has not lost one player of any significance to

(33:49):
the portal. The only guys that have left have been
bench players or players who just didn't play at all.
So I think that just speaks to the continuity that
they've been able to keep here, and Vance leaving had
the potential to affect that. But I think to Ruin
and Cuff sticking around is going to mean that these
pitchers are still going to be here next year.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So maybe final question we had lev on maybe before
the tournament or right right before, and we talked about
because he didn't go, you were able to get there?
Did you sit in on the LSU press conference? Did
you have time?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I know you were delayed.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
I didn't go to the one before the tournament, but
I did go to one of the ones after the tournament,
and like during one of the postgame ones, and Ezra Amaker,
who's also on staff, was there beyond the time that
I was there and attended a couple others. And I mean,
it is interesting hearing Jay Johnson's talk when speaking just

(34:45):
in general, because he's so insightful about everything with baseball.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
But it is funny.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
There were a couple of times he had made mentions
of Arizona, either in a postgame press conference or whatnot,
one of which was after they had their game that
was suspended on one night and then finished the next day.
He was asked what he's learned about going through so
many weather delays while with LSU, and he said, if
there's one thing I'd learned, it's that the best weather
in college baseball is in Tucson, because he didn't really

(35:13):
have that situation here.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, Well, the one question is nobody asked him. I
think Lev had it in the queue for Facebook, you know,
talk about his time here to and why he left,
or just that uncomfortable feeling a poil left.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
Yeah, And I think if it had gotten to the
point where, I mean, certainly if they had played each other,
then that was going to have to come up. And
it really didn't the opportunity to ask something like that
after a game against some other team just it wasn't fitting.
But yeah, I mean I think that if I would imagine,

(35:49):
his answer would be something about how much he really
loved and had what he wanted to do there, but
he couldn't pass up on the opportunity to be at
a program like LSU. And there was also shown i
mean true titles in his first four years. That's the
fastest anybody's ever done that. Previously it had been eight years,
and one of the people that did that was Jerry
Kendall at Arizona. So I Jay made the right move

(36:12):
for what he wanted to accomplish, and at this pace,
he's going to go down if he continues as one
of the greatest coaches in college baseball history.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
The last question just related to him. Obviously, he's done
a great job. I asked this so Michael, because I
didn't cover baseball. What is his secret, sauce? How does
he get his guys to play hard?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Pri him?

Speaker 7 (36:31):
Jay Johnson, Yeah, you know that man lives and breathes
college baseball and everything is about it. Like he's married
and he has he may.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Have other interests.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
I don't know, but it's all about baseball, Like he's
constantly talking about it, and he's he's looking at plans
and figuring out what he's going to be doing for
these guys, not just now but in the future along
with I think at Arizona he had to try to
get these guys to come here even though they were

(37:05):
going to get drafted, and he ran into the case
multiple times of a player he would identify as a
freshman er, sophomore in college who would then blow up
and they get drafted in the first round and there's
no way they're going to pass up that money. At LSU,
he's managed to because they have more resources be able
to get a lot of those guys to stay go

(37:25):
to college and then after two three years, like a
guy like Kate Anderson who through that complete game in
the first game of the championship series, He's a guy
that should have signed out of high school. But Jay
was able to convince him, come here for two years
and you're going to be like one of the top
five picks. And sure enough, that's what ended up happening.
I think he's just he's very good at motivating and

(37:48):
getting people to see that he shares the vision of
what they can be and how far they can come.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Okay, that makes sense. Okay, thanks Brian, appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
Thanks for having me, guys, Brian.

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Speaker 5 (42:17):
Man, what a summer.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Huh, It's be a long summer. I'm be coming of June.
I'll be won't be here next week. I'm going out
of town Tuesday through Sunday. So I got five more
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You're not in tomorrow, right, you're out. You're out too
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Speaker 3 (42:47):
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Speaker 2 (42:48):
They're pretty good. They're pretty good. Sugar Schools one. Over
the weekend. You didn't know that they want to beat
Northern Arizona. So now they beat Northern Arizona and Phoenix Phoenix. Yep,
something's going on with that team. So we talk to
done this weekend as well. What else anything that Brian
said that struck you just the.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Thing about the pitching coach. I mean, it makes sense
to promote from what NF you have success and you know,
yes he helped out in the analytical role and stuff
like that in terms of that, but let's see how
it translates to him being a pitching coach.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, No, there's different. Yeah, there's different. It's like moving over,
you know, the seats assistant the head coach. Let me
ask you to. So now it makes sense. It's what
you were talking about with the contracts of being more yearly,
which kind of still doesn't kind of make sense, doesn't
feel right, but it does for the lower paid coaches. Yeah,
because you don't have to pay him a lot of
money in case he leave or whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, and you're talking about contracts on average, but like
maybe five hundred at most. And then you look at
sports like soccer, swimming, golf, like, I'm sure it's not
probably over one hundred thousand, but not much.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Totally different game than when I used to do it
when I was younger. I don't feel old, but I
guess I'm really old when it goes to this, because
it's just a new game. You know, stories change, We'll
see what happens. Brendan gets his guys here in about
a month.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
In the July, and the July, some of them are
already on campus. Jayden Bradley is on campus right now
working out.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
No, no, I'm talking about Brent.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Oh, Brent, Oh, my bad Brennan. Yes. And the July again,
some of them are already on campus doing team workouts
and stuff, but gearing up for training camp. And then
you're gonna have a lot of those incoming freshmen that
weren't here for spring football, seeing how that impacts the team.
A lot of offensive linement in that recruiting so.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Many how many twenty something twenty people total about like
you know, how twenty seven. How you think we'll actually
play the freshman Yeah, five, six, maybe ten, maybe it's
pretty ten maybe ten.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
It's a lot. It's a lot. I mean you look
at that offensive line and when it's banned up already.
Uh too, it wasn't very good last year. He brought
in some transfers. So so out of all those freshmen
on the offensive line, if somebody stands out, they're gonna play. Yeah.
You saw it with Jonas alvin Ale when he stepped
foot on campus. Right away. It was like, oh, that
guy's a starter. I think his first game AGA in

(45:13):
San Diego. Say, he had a little trouble, he got
tired out with the heat was very hot that day
and he couldn't play the fourth quarter. But after that
he was a star Wars there at you know, guard
and tackle for Arizona. I never barely missed games.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, no, remember that game is San Diego was really hot. Yeah, okay,
so that's good for them. I'm gonna be talking to
Brennan here for a story here not too long from now.
And he was great when we had him on. You
got him on and he was fantastic that day kind
of Have you talked to him anymore about your barbecue contest?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
No? Not, Yeah, we got to do that though.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
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Speaker 5 (45:51):
That was still one of the funniest interviews to me.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Which Brendan yeah, because he cussed.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Well, I thought it was so funny that he was
like so caught off guard that he like, yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, Yeah, Well that's that's the kind of guy that
we want to know, you know, that's the people. That's
the guy that people don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
They don't want the button up person that's very straightforward.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And even if he's buttoned up just to show some
signs of not life, but signs of being one of
the dudes. And even though he is one of the dudes,
because he's not. He's not Macovict, right, and he's not
Jed Jed was I don't know, Jenna was selling.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
You stuff that's different on the field than he was
in a press conference.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
And Brandon's not that. He's just kind of like okay, yeah,
and he wasn't in the interview.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Most of the time. He feels like a happy, go
lucky guy like whatever. Yeah, people want to see more
than that. They don't want to see that. They don't
want to see the nonchalant, right, and he is different.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
You ask you come on, yeah, show some fire. Yeah,
we'll see what happens. I mean, I think he learned
a lot this first year, especially here. And I also
think that the does party set some standards you have
to yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
And no question and again for him, she didn't hire you,
right if he hired you, so standards and there's the well,
you know, I didn't hire this guys, so why do
I care? I want to get my guy in there. Sure,
but you know, I think it would have been not
easy necessarily financially given areas under his financial situation, But

(47:25):
it would have been easy for an athletic director to
be like, you know what, by I'll just get my guy.
But that speaks volumes on what type of person Brennan is,
where you already have somewhat of a good relationship with
the direction of just personalness.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Sure, no, no, No, that there goes. That goes a
long way, and we'll see how long it goes. If
you go four and eight again.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Or whatever, then there's a problem. Yeah, I think I
think you're looking at five to seven win mark this upcoming.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
They have to at least at least so here we
go in about a month, they'll get that going sort
of late June.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
And for Noah, let's be honest, and he's been very
honest about it. The coaching stuff, has been honest about it.
He had that tremendous red shirt freshman year last year.
It was bad. It was bad, and not all that
was on him. Obviously, the line was bad. Not a
lot of weapons outside of Debtoro McMillan and things start
to pile up. But throughout the season there are plenty

(48:22):
of times where like you missed the wide open guy,
or you didn't even see that guy, or you waited
too long on that one and that comes back on
the quarterback. So you know, new offense that's going to
help out, sure, hopefully, but you got to prove this
is almost like a proven year for not only Brennan
but Noah as well.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
So I think we've we've you and I have talked
about this. The gods right back, baseball, football, gods, football guds.
That season that brought that jet had. I think sometimes
things just work out that way, right, they had a
good season. He finally relinquished the job to to Noah
or he got the job. Well, you know, whatever we
do happen. He had to do it and it turned

(49:02):
out to be what it was, and then he leaves.
Things just worked out weird sometimes sometimes Troy, you get
the girl without you, without you know, without you having
to work your ass off to get the girl. You
know what I'm saying. Just didn't work out that way.
And now a year later, it didn't work out that way.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, and you know, some things go right, recruiting.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Goes well right, and everything did that year.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I mean they It wasn't like rich Rod's ten and
ten and four season, where you know, you get a
bounce here, a lucky play here the hill Mary happened
that year. The kick against Washington where they should have
just ran out the football and they built the ball
and they fumbled the ball. A lot of things went
right for Arizona ones. Noah took over and really played. Yeah,

(49:46):
they dominated teams, They were dominant. They were a legitimately
good team. So things work out. But that was a
very good, well rounded team. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Well yeah, and almost in spite of themselves, because again
he didn't want to relinquish.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
And if you don't that Arizona teams goes six and six,
it doesn't turn out the way it does. Guess who's
still the coach? Maybe what?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
No, But here's my thing, And it could have been
a worse situation for Arizona. Remember U c l A
opened up late after chip Kelly left. He's a California guys.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, but I don't know if.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
He had already been at u c l A too,
But would of coordinator, would you Rey hire.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Mean, if he was mediocre here, if the situation were different,
so you.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Would have if you would hire a running back coach
that has never had coordinating decision like U C l A.
They made they made mistakes. Well and I know it's
an alumni, but I'm just saying, if Jed was still
at Arizona chip Ley's when he does, let's say they
hired Jed, you're probably getting off of you know, you're
probably getting You're getting all those kids because they're Southern
California kids.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Well again, timing in circumstances, if you and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
But like that's why this place.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Uh, we've found lightning in the bottle for a nice
year and here we are. Yeah, and then didn't the
next year. Sometimes the god says, here you go. Oh,
by the way, you got to give it back to me,
give me the keys the car I just gave him
to You only had it for a while, right, you
gotta go uber again, use somebody else's car.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Don't have been sure. Okay, we're good most about a
minute or so. Yeah, we're pretty good.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Okay, Well, thanks, I'll see you Thursday, see you next
next week. We'll see we might have a football player,
trying to get a fall player.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, we've been trying to get Desiree. I've been trying
to get to the basketball coach coach Burke too, So we'll
see what happens with that. It's such a dying time
right now in the summer. Everyone's out doing their thing
and everybody and coaches are on vacation. This is their
vacation time.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I know.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
That's why I'm gonna leave for a week. Okay, guys,
thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
We'll see you.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Thanks for calling, guys, Vic and everybody else appreciate you.