Thursday, April 24, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
They're good enough to do and everybody welcome to Eye
on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm
Steve Rivera. In with me today is Ryan Hanson. Longtime
you have a guy? Well, how wou's your Doug? Do
you have a title? It's nice when you don't. I
like the U of a guy. That's a that's your
Carmel title. It is on my business card. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
My day job is I'm the president of Bomboyash Travel.
So that's where I came from to join you on
the air today. But color analyst for the men's basketball
radio broadcast. That's what probably most people in town now
would recognize the voice from you.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You have like slash like three one thing. One thing
was slash Slash Slash. Then we've got Kobe running the show. Kobe,
I hope this goes smoothly. We know that will, right,
we know that it will. Anybody want to call in,
please do. We're gonna probably look back at a lot
of things that Ryan's been around since like the early nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, I started as a student manager with Loud Olsen
back in nineteen ninety two. So you think about who
was here back then, So it's the Khalid Reeves, Damon
Stodamaier here coming off right, the heels of Chris Mills
and that group.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
So Chris was already that was his final year.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Chris had left and I started the next year. So
really my first year with the team as a student
manager was the ninety three. I was a stat guy
in ninety two ninety three, but my first year, which
is why I loved claiming it was the final four year, right,
not a first round last year.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, okay. And I started covering the team fully at
ninety one ninety two, so it's our wheelhouse, right. I
was here being backing up in the late eighties nineties
for all that stuff. So cool, No, we might go back.
We're reminisce to the good old days. But these times
are crazy times, right, football, basketball and everything else. We
had Rita Stubbs yesterday. They're on that caravan of doing

(01:56):
things right, you know, shaking hands, getting babies, trying to
dren it generate enthusiasm at UVA, which I'm sure every
school does or should this place. This place is unique
in as much as it's not one of those top
tier schools I'm not speaking out of turn, I don't think,
but it's not also one of those bottom feeder schools.
It's right in the middle like it was in the

(02:17):
PAC twelve, PAC ten, and now it's trying to climb
its way back to or not back to the top.
But finances are going to probably be an issue.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, the whole dynamic of college athletics, the landscape is
something like we've never seen and we'll i'm sure potentially
get into a little bit of that with some of
our guests today. But one of the things that I
look at, Steve, is I am impressed with what's going
on in the athletics department right now, with the effort
to try to generate that fan connection. And Tucson is
a is a unique destination. It is a college town,

(02:47):
but it's not, as you know, a generational Arizona Wildcat fan.
There's so many of the supporters and maybe fortunately or
unfortunately the financially ones that are well off to make
this significant donations. Many of them Arizona was not the
school that they grew up watching as a kid because
they didn't grow up here. They may not even be
an alum of the University of Arizona, but they've retired

(03:10):
here and so this is now their closest connection to
an athletics department. So, because you don't have that generational
fandom that comes with the Southeast Conference and their football
programs or some of the Midwest teams like a Michigan
and Ohio State that it's handed down season tickets are
passed down generationally, you almost have to rekindle the fire

(03:31):
more often here in Tucson to generate that connection to
the local community. So the Caravan is doing a really
good job. Some of the offseason wins. You know, I'd
like to at least give major credit to Desiree and
the hire of the new women's basketball coach. That was
kind of an interesting dynamic of how that came about.
I think ultimately that's going to be a win that's

(03:51):
going to be a net positive for Arizona women's basketball.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And that's saying a lot. That's saying a lot because
everyone loved most everyone loved Idea, right, and it's gonna
be hard to replace her, But I like you think
that she will fit in fine. It might take a
little bit a minute or two, but yeah, I think
I see what you see.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
There's tremendous support here for women's basketball, maybe unlike many
others in the in the conference. So we're excited about
I am about what she's doing.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
The new hire in becky Burg. We already got a call. Hello,
you're on the air and nine on the ball. Who's this, Hey, Steve,
This is Doug.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Hey, Doug, how are you good to hear from me?

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Too, you know, I'm just running around town. I just
flipped on the radio and I hear Rhino on there,
and uh, I just want to say, Hey, Rhinos, Doug,
you're one of the more underappreciated people in the in
the basketball program. I just wanted to say that, you know,
I recognize your insights are really valuable. I'm glad that
you're still doing the radio show after all these years.

(04:49):
And I always trust, I always trust what you say
on the air. I feel like you always understand, you know,
the not just the x's and o's, but also like
what's between the ears on the players. And I think
the community doesn't really I don't know if the community
really appreciates how much you have your finger on the
pulse of the program. So I just wanted to say
thank you for all that for many years of service.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Well thanks, Doug.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I absolutely remember you know who you are and love
your support of the programs over the years. You've been
an ardent supporter through all the thing of Arizona Athletics
and your I do appreciate the commentary. I've lived a
blessed life to be connected to Arizona Athletics and more
particular Arizona basketball for as long as I.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I was gonna when you when I got you to
come on yesterday, I was going to say that to you.
I don't know a guy. I know a lot of
guys who've had a lot of success and blah blah blah.
You're one of them because you get to do what
you want to do right. You're there, You're associated with
the basketball team, they're successful, you get to do the
play by player analyst, and then you have a real
world job, which is a fan fantastic job. You work

(05:50):
for a dude. I really like a lot Peter Evans.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
I do.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
And it's a local community owned, you know, family owned business,
been in business, will be fifty years next spring, so
to be to be connected to a locally owned business
like Bomboyage. When I talk to people and they say, well,
what do you do when you're not calling games? Well,
we're selling vacations and I get to travel. So one
week from tomorrow I'm headed to Ireland so for on
a business trip. So my business trips aren't to the

(06:15):
Tulsa Airport Marriott for a convention and a stale donut.
You know, I'll be staying at the Ashford Castle in Ireland.
So I do live a pretty blessed life. And back
to Doug's point, part of that blessed life is my
partner on the air for the games, Brian Jeffries. He
is to me the very best in the industry and
he makes me sound better. So I appreciate Doug the

(06:36):
comments about my inside. Yeah, I couldn't do it without Brian,
that guy is speaking of, and I think people are
starting to recognize and realize. I don't think people don't
appreciate who Brian is, but even as much as they
do appreciate him, they don't appreciate him enough.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Because that guy's a pro. He is a pros pro
and he was here Bone before.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
We hear every now and then we'll hear about, you know,
like the play by play guy for X y Z
School has retired or something, and it always just gives
me chills because I can't stand the idea of someday
Brian not doing our games. I will say that his son,
Brody is I think a real talent up and coming.
He's already doing you of a baseball and I think,
as you do softball too, or women's basketball.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
And he did women's basketball for Yeah, he did women's
basketball for a season. And then he is stepping up
his game and they'll be utilizing him more. As the
Big Twelve requires all of these events to be on
ESPN or ESPN Plus or some streaming network, you'll be
hearing Brody quite a bit more. And I actually had

(07:40):
an opportunity to broadcast in Arizona basketball three game series
with Brody because Brian Jefferies couldn't make the trip for
the Battle for Atlantis this year. Doug, if you recall
that he was staying back for the Arizona ASU Territorial
Cup football game, which he should and we want him
on that so to be able to join Brody on
the air. I actually called him Brian and two or

(08:00):
three times because he sounds so much like his father does.
His cadences delivery is very professional and very much like
his dad. He has a very bright future in broadcasting
if he chooses to do that, and I, like you
hope that that is a start here and we get
to see and actually hear him more on Arizona broadcast
if it's I think he's done some gymnastics meets for Arizona.

(08:22):
He's definitely stepping in on on the baseball side of things.
But Brian and Brody are treasures of Tucson and where
we really are blessed because those guys they care. They've
got great passion. That's one thing I think you you've
touched on it, Doug. It's not just Brian's ability to
deliver a great broadcast. It's the passion and the care

(08:43):
for the school and the players and the coaches. It
comes through his voice, doesn't it, Doug. I mean you
hear that in his dogs.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, he lives it right. It's like family, It's his
extended family. And it's not just the ex It's not
just you know what happened on the field or on
the court. It's it's the context all around it, and
he really paints the picture and he you know, obviously
he'll credit guys that he learned from for decades, you know,
as a as a young man. But now you just

(09:11):
you just pay it forward to the next generation. And
you know, two songs been blessed. A lot of really
talented people have gone to lucrative or you know, successful
careers and broadcasting. You know, Steve Rivera is one of them.
You know how lucrative Steve, but you know successful. And
then you look at you know, Ryan Ratkey, you look
at Dan Hicks, and you know Tom Tolbert up in
the Bay Area, and you know, all kinds of people

(09:34):
on every walk of you know, every corner of the
athletic campus here. We've had a lot of a lot
of guys and gals move on to success, which is
pretty cool to see.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Thanks for calling that out.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah yeah, but again, what I.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Ask you know, the name Hansen has come up a
lot in you've a you know, athletics. I always forget
are you connected family wise to any of the other
people the name Hansen that have come through the athletics.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Department and it's an interesting quote.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
And when I first started with the basketball program, obviously
the sports writer for Therison a daily star, the great
editor Greg Hanson. I am not related to Greg at all,
so there was always a question of hey, are you
the sports writer's son.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
And then at the time, if you recall Doug, the
packed Ten commissioner at the time was Tom Hanson spelled
the same exact way, and we are not related either. Well,
his son Brian was a student manager at the exact
same time I was there, so I was connected to him.
And then Erica and I have a different spelling name,
so Erica Barnes formerly Erica. She's h anso n She's

(10:37):
Norwegian descent. I'm Danish descent with the e en. But
she and I we've known each other a long time.
She was a marketing intern in athletics when I started
working in the Wildcat Club together and we shared an office.
So she's gone to athletic greatness. I'm still doing the
same old thing, so she's out kicked my coverage. She's
an awesome person and we wish her the very best

(10:59):
and her future endeavors. But what a great, great contribution
she made for twenty plus years to athletics and bring
back the handsome part of that Doug.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
So yeah, absolutely, all right. So we've established her one
of one and I just want to say we appreciate you.
So I'll look forward to hearing more.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Thank you. Yeah, thank you, Doug. We'll see you soon,
all right, you will. Yeah, thanks, good call, thank you.
Let's say before we get to the break, we're going
to have a pretty good show here. I think I
always kind of a I come through with a late
hit in the bottom of the ninth to save the game,
and I'm just saving it. I'm not winning it. Uh.
We're gonna have coach Candrea here at in about three eighteen,

(11:35):
talked just about you know what's going on. He's still
helping with the softball program. I think he's still helping
in the athletic department. So you know he still has
his after never retired. Don't retire because you become a
busier person to be Hey, you've got time. It's like
I call coach Lopez all the time, can you come on,
I got baseball. I gotta do this. And everybody wants
to a piece of him, right, and Candrea is one
of those guys. And then at four seventeen, we're gonna

(11:56):
talk to John Fina, former U of A football player,
Buffalo Bill guy. I want to talk to him about
football one and two, how it was for the draft
when he was getting drafted, because today's draft, right, and
we'll see if t Mac gets drafted early or mid
first round. Yeah, there's so many varying Oh.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I know, and all the different experts at him. What
was the latest I saw? Maybe tenth? Is that what
I thought?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
For doubt to Dallas, which is nice, the one of
the lower ones, like twenty twenty two, and there was
Have you watched the internet. I haven't watched it closely
in the last couple of days. I hate the Twitter.
Everyone's an expert. Everyone's an expert. Even the experts are saying,
well this guy, I'm hearing this and this, and it's
not good news about t Mac. And then you know,
when you're in Tucson, you're saying, there's full of it.

(12:40):
You and I both know this.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
And when it comes to draft, either NBA or Major
League Baseball or NFL, my hope for an Arizona Wildcat
guy like a t Mac is that he just lands
in the right situation. So if it's tenth, twelfth, twenty
second to me, yeah, the money might be a slight
variable there, but you want him in a great situation
so that he can get off from the right places.
So many times, if you get drafted to the wrong

(13:03):
franchise that has, in his case, maybe a quarterback that
doesn't jive with you, or an offensive coordinator that doesn't
utilize your strengths, then your career could be dictated based
on those first couple of years.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Sure, I remember, and a lot of the comments are
not always accurate. I remember when Richard came out and
you both. I spent time with Richard in that group,
Luke and Lauren and Michael Wright, that two thousand and
one group when he was decided to come out as
a junior. One of the pundits of a friend of
mine he has been on the show a few times,
said I don't think he's ready for the NBA. His

(13:34):
stats don't show it. You know, he's making you know,
a certain percentage of his shots, he's averaging twelve points
whatever a game, doesn't really have a handle on it.
Yet again, I'm thinking, I know you're good at what
you do, but you don't see what people see jump
through the gym. He's kind of got a good hit
at that time, a good IQ for basketball. Obviously, now
he's doing what he's doing, he has a great IQ.
But you know what I'm saying, and I'm thinking, you

(13:56):
don't see what he offers because you don't see him
all the time.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, if you're right, and there's so many variables to
to how you're going to be successful moving down the road,
and Richard's one of those guys. I agree his stats
maybe didn't jump off the page, but boy, talk about
where he's taken his career.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
Well.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Also during that time, let's throw that roster at you him, Gilbert, Jason, Luke, Lauren,
Michael so and you're playing for LUT. I always can
say this that who held Michael Jordan to sixteen points
this seasoning being Smith exactly and in Lut's programs, unless
you were Jason Terry in ninety nine, you weren't scoring

(14:32):
a lot of points.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Right, and you weren't given the green light relatively speaking.
You and I both have talked about this at nauseum.
The two thousand and one team that you just referenced,
arguably and maybe for my money, the most talented group
of Wildcats, but an interesting group, a cast of characters
to a certain degree when you throw in Eugene Edgerson
in the mix with Luke and Richard and Gilbert and

(14:54):
how those different dynamics worked personality wise, that was definitely.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
A coaching job. Loud Olsoen it was.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's easy to say, wow, great talent, but he had
personalities to juggle to.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
That said, you forgot. Another personality is Ricky Anderson who
had oh he was a stick the Whippi boy from
lut even though they were really close.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
You know what, I'm great Ricky Anderson story. Every day
Coach Rosboro would go to Ricky Anderson and ask him
how he was feeling energy wise and what his health
status was. And Ricky would respond with a percentage, and
it was a very specific percentage every day. So if
he was having an off day, Steve, he would tell you, yeah,
seventy seven percent today, coach seventy seven percent. If he's
feeling good, ninety three percent today, coach ninety three percent.

(15:35):
So Ricky what a great dude, great fun and he
had a we had a fun time with Ricky on
campus for his five years.

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Hey, welcome back to On the Ball here on Fox
Sports forteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with b to
d Is, Ryan Hanson, Rhino and now on the phone,
Hall of Fame softball coach Mike Candrea. You may know
who he is. Mike. How you doing.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I'm doing great. How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're fine. How's that retirement of your ghost going?

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Oh? It is absolutely wonderful. You know, every day is a.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Saturday, Die, I would say kind of facetiously, because you're
still busy as all hell.

Speaker 14 (21:29):
Yeah, well, I've got one foot in, one foot out.
But you know what, I'm having fun and doing what
I can.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I was gonna say, you're not good at retirement, but
you're very good at retirement.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Coach. It's great to look.

Speaker 14 (21:43):
If you look at my golf game, you would not think.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
That I was retired.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
That's another problem altogether. But hey, coach, good to connect
with you. Love love getting around you. And one of
the things that I've noticed, and I know that is
maybe a passion of yours, is coaching the coaches. And
I think that's a really incredible part of the athletic
administration is it's not just about coaching the student athletes.
That's that is the essence of what an athletics department does,

(22:09):
but you've got to you've got to develop your coaches,
and can you talk a little bit about the types
of things that you're doing in addition to just the
one on one connections that you're trying to help bolster
and grow this next generation of great coaches so that
they can they can really flourish as Hall of Fame
potential coaches in their own right.

Speaker 14 (22:29):
Well, right, you know, I just try to keep myself
available for them. You know, they've got busy schedules, but
they'll reach out to me every now and then and
we'll sit down and talk about some things, whether it's
issues that they're having or advice that they want. But
you know, I just really wanted to be number one,

(22:50):
have a seat at the table with the leadership team
to represent our coaching staff because they don't have time
to do that all the time. And then number two,
just to make myself available and if I can help
in any way, whether it's whether it's some questions about
team building, whether it's questions about leadership, whether it's questions

(23:11):
about everything but the x's and o's.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
You know, I stay away from that stuff.

Speaker 14 (23:16):
But it's been a lot of fun and it's been
very gratifying for me to be able to continue to
kind of keep a pulse on you of a athletics,
which is something that I love so dearly, and it's
been a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
So you retired, I want to say, I'm gonna guess now,
maybe three four years ago, I'm guessing you were an
ad here for a cup of coffee, for a couple
of coffee. Let me take a guess here. You're thankful
you're not the ad giferent the climate of what's going on,
I was telling Rhino maybe fifteen minutes ago, I'm glad
I'm kind of almost out of the business in a

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sense that it's a crazy world that you guys are
living in.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, it is very.

Speaker 14 (23:58):
A lot of moving parts, let's say, but I think
an exciting time depending on how you look at it.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
You know, it is what it is, and we have.

Speaker 14 (24:08):
To find our way to continue to stay competitive. And
there's some challenges ahead of us that I'm sure desires
working really hard to make sure that we can meet
those because we are all in you know, we're not
looking to go backwards by any means, and so.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
We're going to have to be creative and smart.

Speaker 14 (24:29):
And yeah, the future is going to be quite interesting,
to tell you the truth.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Coach Kendra, from your perspective, the local Tucson fan, what's
the one thing they could do to support Arizona Athletics
if they're if they're.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Not the Powerball winner?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Right, that'd be awesome if you had a couple of
Powerball winners to write big checks.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
We get that in this nil era.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
But for that that twosone in that just loves the Wildcats,
what's one or two things they could do to really
just support this program? And like you said, it's ever
evolving in this it is what it is. So if
you love the Wildcats, you need to love the Wildcats.

Speaker 14 (25:04):
Yeah, you know, I think basically the just the continued support.
You know, we need to put people in the seats
number one. So buying a ticket for a football season
ticket helps us tremendously because you know, the two movers
are going to be football and then it's basketball, and
so we have to make sure that we do everything
we can to do our part. And I think any

(25:30):
person can help by and I always said this, you know,
even when I was coaching, I said, you know, the
best way you can help our softball program is to
buy season tickets for football, and I don't think that's
changed one bit at all. I think, you know, we
need everyone support and we need to make sure that
the narrative around the community is a positive one. And

(25:53):
I think there's a lot of things that are in
my eyes that are moving in the right direction, and
they're very positive. To start with is our coaching staff.
I think we have a tremendous coaching staff in all
of our sports, and they all deserve support. And I
think our community has always been the key to the
success of Arizona Athletics.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
One of the things that I agree with you. I
had Rocky on maybe a week or so ago after
the passion of Centric, and I've said this a few
times over the last couple of years that these times,
you know, when Jed was doing really well, and obviously
Tommy was doing really well, and it rivaled the mid
nineties when the glory years in at least in my time,
and even before that, you were winning championships like crazy,

(26:35):
and that this program was headed in that direction. It
kind of still is. Look at the look at the
programs they are doing really well. Would you kind of
agree with me with that?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
No, I would.

Speaker 14 (26:45):
I think right now we've got a lot of good
things that are happening.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
You know.

Speaker 14 (26:48):
I think Chip Chip has got the baseball program going
in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
I think our golf programs are doing well.

Speaker 14 (26:55):
I think softball is I'm so proud of Caitlin and
the j she's done. She has done a really a
fantastic job, and I think they're going to be competitive
in postseason. Tennis has been really good. You know, I
think all of our sports right now are moving the
needle in the right direction. You know, Unfortunately you only

(27:19):
read a lot about men's basketball and football, but there's
a lot to be proud of here.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
You know.

Speaker 14 (27:25):
I really like our coaches, and I know they're all
in and they're all doing their part to make this
transition as smoothly as we can because it is going
to be challenging. And you know, we're still waiting for
the case to get settled with the revenue share, and
I think that's going to take us into a whole

(27:46):
nother direction with college athletics.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, Coach Andrea, for those listeners that maybe are new
to Tucson or maybe the last ten to fifteen years,
you touched on something about the overall breadth of the
Arizona athletics department, and Steve mentioned it back in the
nineties and even in the two thousands, the success of.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
So many different programs.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yes, men's basketball won a national title in ninety seven,
that was the flag bearer. You were winning national titles.
But the other sports that just kept competing at an
exceptionally high level. Bush right, the women's volleyball Bush Dave
Rubio brought the volleyball program to a Final four in
two thousand and one from a place where it wasn't

(28:27):
very competitive in the eighties. I wanted to take you back,
coach ca Andrea to McHale of the nineties, and you
were walking around McHale and you'd rub shoulders with the
great Dick Tomy, You'd rub shoulders with Loud Olsen, a
Hall of famer, Basketball Hall of Famer, Frank Bush.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Fred Harvey is still there.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
But guys like like that, can you talk about just
the camaraderie that you guys I knew have as had
as coaches in the ultimate respect for each other because
the programs were just being run at it at a
very high level.

Speaker 14 (29:00):
Yeah, you know, we I always go back and we
had great leaders and great people, and we enjoyed one another.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
We leaned on one another.

Speaker 14 (29:12):
And we enjoyed the success of one another. And you know,
the climate has changed tremendously with the TV revenue that's
coming in now and the growth of the SEC and
the Big Ten and and all that. But back in
the nineties, you know, we just we put our mind

(29:32):
to making our teams better and we helped each other recruit,
which was another big thing. And I think that's a
big part of it is. You know, we have a
great community here and I think two sounds of a wonderful place,
and and we have to continue to use that to
bring in athletes. But at the end of the day, Ry,
you know, there's so many more choices, and you know,

(29:56):
back in the day, we could pretty much dominate the
southern California market, and you know, today those same people
are moving all over the country and so it is
much more challenging to get into great athletes. But coaching
is coaching, you know. I mean, I think we still
have coaches here that do a great job of developing

(30:17):
our athletes and preparing them for life after their sports
are done. And I think sometimes that's overlooked. You know,
our academic results have been extremely high over the last
five years. We keep breaking records on our GPAs, and
so I think there's just a lot of differences in

(30:39):
today's world than there was back then.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
I think life was simpler in.

Speaker 14 (30:42):
The nineties, and you know, most of my coaching was
done without social media, without cell phones, and you start
adding those things, and I think just kids today have
so much more to think about and to navigate through,
and it has become tough. You know, I was talking

(31:03):
to someone today about back in the day, we always
were concerned about mental performance. You know, how can we
have our athletes be able to do their best job
when when their best job was needed and handling pressure
and all those things.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Well, today it's about mental health.

Speaker 14 (31:23):
Yeah, And I mean it's a real thing. There's a
lot of kids that are navigating very tough times, and
some of these things don't make it any easier. But
I think the University of Arizona and our athletic department
do a great job in giving the resources that they need.
And you know, I think at the end of the day,
it's as long as you keep the student athlete in

(31:45):
the center of everything, then you're going to be okay.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
One of the things that I've learned in this business
after being in it for a long time and having
covering Loot and covering you to a degree and doing
stories on Frankelnbellin, is that coaching matters. We've seen coaches
other places in here come and go because they just
weren't good enough, and you can kind of tell who
they are or whatever. But when you got here in
the mid eighties and you're a baseball guy, right when

(32:10):
you got here, what did you think you needed to
do one to be established yourself as a guy who's
going to be good at what he did. And eventually
you do became that guy. And did you have a
did you use your secret sauce early? Because you obviously
had some kind of magic for doing it for so long?
And Will.

Speaker 14 (32:28):
Well, I think if I if I look at myself
back then, it was it was all about building relationships,
number one. And it was all about recruiting high character
kids that were competitive. And then it was it was.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
High standards, you know.

Speaker 14 (32:46):
I mean, every day you walk out there, you can
set a standard and it's your choice whether it's going
to be high or low and many of those coaches
you're talking about had very high standards and they held
their athletes accountable.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, and I think that that's really.

Speaker 14 (33:00):
It's not a secret sauce, but it's it's something that
you have to work at each and every day because
it can be tough. I mean, coaching can be a
lonely job at times, and to stay true to yourself
and follow your moral compass throughout your career can be
sometimes challenging.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
To that end, Coach, ke Andre, who were some of
the coaches or administrators or people in your time when
you were in the on the diamond that helped you
through those ups and downs? There was a many many ups, coach,
but I know you may you probably remember some of
the losses in those championship series in games, maybe more
than even some of the wins. Who are some of
the people that you leaned on peer to peer.

Speaker 14 (33:41):
Well, I mean there's so many. But I was blessed
to have a locker next to loud Olson. So that's
one of the big differences right now is that it
seems like everyone's kind of in their own place, and
there's never a time when all the coaches are in
the same locker room. Well back then, we had one
locker room, and so you know, I would I would

(34:03):
dress next salute every day and we would talk shop
and Jerry Kendall and Jim Wing and you know, Frank
Bush was another one that kind of felt some of
the same pains that I did. And you know it
was just Rick Lorose, a good friend of mine, and yeah,

(34:26):
kind of comes out of the same mold. You know,
he was very competitive and great recruiter, and you know,
he knew how to handle kids.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
He was a great relationship builder.

Speaker 14 (34:38):
And so I took a little bit from everyone, you know,
but I spent a lot of time My office was
across from Jerry Kendall and Jim Wing and Jerry Stitt.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
And obviously with a.

Speaker 14 (34:54):
Commonality we had in the bad ball game, I used
to spend a lot of time just sitting around there
and she in the ball with him and bouncing things off.
And you know, as a young coach, it's it's.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
So important, you know.

Speaker 14 (35:08):
I think sometimes when you're a young coach, you kind
of feel lonely and you don't know where to go.
But the one great thing about all of those people
is they were they were always willing to share information
and try to make you better. And Dick Tomy, you know,
another one that just was a very very good friend
of mine that did things the right way, and I

(35:30):
learned from him, you know, And so I, yeah, I
always go back to my baseball background. And you know,
in junior college baseball, I was surrounded by some really
phenomenal coaches and like the Gary Wards of the world,
and Jim Friese and you Rich all days, and you know,

(35:50):
Freddie Nelson at Scottsdale, Herboletto plug Marriage and I used
to be in their back pocket as much as I could,
because I think that's the way you learn. And when
I came here with my baseball background, I was very
comfortable to sharing information because all the information we have
is not.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Unique, you know.

Speaker 14 (36:11):
But but sometimes you realize that it's it's the delivery
that matters most. And so I would spend a lot
of time watching these guys operate and talk to the
verbiage that they use. And at the end of the day,
you know, you've got to be able to you've got
to be able to get kids to love what they're
doing and and then to treat them with respect and

(36:35):
honesty and and build a relationship that's going to last
a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
One quick question before we go, Mike, we talked. I
joked about you being busy. Now tell me you're your
association with the softball team now and and how tied
into you are you?

Speaker 14 (36:52):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm when when Erica stepped down,
I became the sport administrator for softball this year, so
I've I've been able to do a little more than
planned with them, But truly I've been a fan since
I left, watching Caitlin do such a great job with
this program. And so I'm around quite a bit there

(37:14):
and that's been a lot.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Of fun, you know.

Speaker 14 (37:17):
And then I'm on a leadership team for Desiree and
and that has been really good to be able to
see college athletics from a ten thousand foot view versus
I was always in the submarine worrying about softball, and
that has been very enlightening and it really has helped

(37:37):
me continue to grow about college athletics, you know. And
it's fun to be able to go out to practices
and watch Tommy work and be able to sit around
and talk with him. And We've got a new swim
coach and a program that's doing very well and enjoying
watching them. And then tennis with Clancy and Ryan have

(37:59):
done a great job. I mean, there's just so many
good things out here. Beca Morris and then now I'm
very excited that we got to do you know, new
women's basketball coach that I think is a young and
hungry and and is willing to sit down and listen
and and talk. You know, I'm going to try to
help her as much as I can. And uh, I hated,

(38:20):
hated to.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
See a d go.

Speaker 14 (38:21):
She she was a wild cat from back back in
the nineties when when I'm when we were talking, and
a great athlete and has done a great job. But
you know, she's making a move to SMU, so we
wish her the best, and.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I just I just like where we're at right now.

Speaker 14 (38:40):
I think Desiree has done a really good job in
navigating this new climate. And I'm just so glad that
I'm not in that chair, because there's no way in hell.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I want to. You're right, Mike, as usual, thank you
very much, thanks for doing this today.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
All right, guys, good to see and thanks for all
you do.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
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Speaker 2 (42:43):
Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. He's Ryan Hanson.
Thanks for filling in here. We've got Kobe running the
show here and already I don't know how we're gonna
finish the next ten minutes. Got somebody texting me saying, great,
great segment here, one of the best ever. Uh, thank
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(43:04):
to the goat.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
When you have Mike Candrea, one of the greatest of
all time in any sport, on the air, talking about
his experiences, talking about what he learned, who he leaned
on that He is a master communicator, a very good
department person for Arizona. To have him still on staff
as a resource for Desiree and the rest of the

(43:25):
coaching staff, I think is brilliant to keep him around
and and just it's not just about keeping him around.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
He that guy's contributing daily. And the second one I
got was great to hear a voice of reason and
appreciation for Arizona Athletics from coach Candrea. You know, I've
said this and I mean this, and you know the
guys better than me. The coach is better, Candrea. The
coach Andy Lopez is the bushes up. They don't they
don't win by accident, right. They know exactly what they're doing,

(43:55):
and they're they're firm, they're direct, and they're trusting. And
the kids either know it or they don't write And
they play for lout come on. And I've said this
thousands of times when you were in the locker room
more than more than me.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Uh uh.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
They played hard for him because they didn't want to
disappoint him, and he had a pretty good scheme.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Both were needed, Yeah, both were needed. It's not just
about the ex's and o's And you've got to know
the game. You've got you've got to be able to scout,
you've got to be able to prepare, and Coach Olson
one of the greatest preparation teachers in the game. But
you obviously have to get your players to play better
than they think. And guys like Chanting Fry and a
Jason Terry come to mind, where you developed them into

(44:38):
better than who they maybe even hoped to become. But
there is a common thread when you when you talk
about the coaches that have been and come through Arizona
Athletics and have been exceptionally successful, the common theme is
they're good people. If you start there and they treat
people well, they recruit and bring in coaches of high character.
They don't just have success on the court. There's a plan.

(45:01):
They hold people accountable. You heard coach Kendrea talk about that,
and that's something that in this day and age, is
a different dynamic to hold this generation of student athletes accountable.
With cell phone, social media, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Good a call, Hello, you're on the air, nine on
the ball. Who's this? I hate Bill? Hey Bill?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
How are you good? Right?

Speaker 18 (45:22):
Rhino, as much as you are a voice the Wildcats
and as big as you've become. And I've been listening.
I've been going to the football, baseball, and basketball almost
my whole life here, and I'm sixty two now. But
as big as you are and as stamlish as you
are in our household, your mom's always number one because
she taught all my kids in kindergarten.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I love it, Bill, Yeah, Jane Hanson. So they were
at Richardson Elementary here in town.

Speaker 18 (45:49):
Yep, yep. And no matter how big you get, chill
always be bigger than you in our house.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I echo that sentiment.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
My mom unfortunately passed away it'll be four years this
coming month in May, and was an incredible supporter of me.
And part of that what's interesting, Bill is she was
a huge Arizona basketball fan, and after games and I
would call the games, I would call her on the
phone and she would tell me everything I should have
said on the radio about the performance or what should

(46:19):
have happened. And Arizona has never committed a foul in
her books.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
She is that ultimate fan.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I'm sure she passed on her love of the Wildcats
through her teaching to your three kids. Thank you for
mentioning that, and I don't know if you remember or
even knew this. She was my kindergarten teacher as well,
so I say she was the best at it.

Speaker 18 (46:41):
That's awesome. Yeah, she made them love them even though
you know they grew up in a Wildcat family. She
perpetuated that with them and it was awesome. She was great.
You were a manager when my oldest was in there,
so we ran the gamut with that, but it was awesome.
And I want to tell you thank you for what
you do. You are very good at what you do
in ourpreciate it, but your mom was the best.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I love that, and thanks for your love and support
of the Wildcats and what they're doing now. It takes
people like you to keep the community going. And coach
Candrea talked about that, Steve. It's not just the nil
and the money that's being thrown around. It's not just
coaches being great at what they do. It still matters.
It's that community support and people like Bill and others
that come to games that support from AFAR as best

(47:23):
as they can because those things still matter to student athletes.
They still want to play in front of full houses,
They want to play in front of crowds that care
about them. So all of these things, there's more to
it now than ever, but all of these things matter.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Thanks Bill, Thanks, thank you. I appreciate you. Thanks for listening. Yeah, yeah,
no question. Why do you think? How mush t we have?
You got about five minutes? Right, We're good? Okay. We've
seen players come and go, both the females and males
very in sports. Is it the money? Is it? The
need for change? Is what is it? What's like the top?

(48:01):
Give me the top three in order though, in order
in order, because if you're coming here and we've seen it,
we've seen it anyway before in ail, right, because they
wasn't a fan, they weren't getting time whatever and time,
so give me, give me. I'll start with the number one,
which may not be what you might think it is.
They can.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Start with the rule change, right, So transfer portal has
opened up a whole new opportunity that you were penalized
back in the nineties and two thousands, even not that
long ago. If you wanted to transfer, you had to
sit out right, So that was a punitive transfer rule.
And I think some of the rule makes sense, but
I also recognize that student athletes life changes around you

(48:43):
coaching changes your own thoughts of what a school was.
You go to school and it's not what you thought,
and so you may want to make a change, even
as a regular student. Kolby knows this. As a student,
you come here and it may not be what you think.
So I would start with the opportunity to change has
been presented to them. There's no doubt the financial upside,
especially in the revenue generating sports. That would be Number

(49:06):
two for me is the financial opportunity. And then I
do think there is always and still will ever be
the grass is greener. So it's what is my opportunity,
not just to make nil money, but it's to further
my game. I'm going to get more playing time, the
coach is going to like me better, I'm going to
like my circumstances. I'm going to elevate to a program
that is maybe viewed nationally as an elevation opportunity. We

(49:30):
see that with mid majors making their moves, So it's
not just Arizona that sees players leave. It's a lot
of schools that see that. So those would probably be
the three for me. Okay, No, I think the first
one is a little bit different. But yeah, it's number
one before it with they're handcuffed a little.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, so to.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Say, oh man, look at all these kids leaving. They
never used to do that. Well, they were penalized before.
And so the change of rules, it's almost the self
fulfilling prophecy. You give someone an open door, they're going
to take it. If it's a wall, it's a little
harder to go through.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Yeah, yeah, no question. I've asked this of Harvey Mason,
Uthic and whoever else I could with, with Williams, Pete Limbs,
all the guys that could have on. How would Loot
handle today's world? Wow, it would have been tough for him.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
He was a teacher and now as a as a
basketball coach or even a coach in intercollegiate athletics. We know, yes,
you still are teaching. You have to be a fundraiser,
you have to be well, he was a fundraiser for
for the program, not for individual players.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Right, there's a different no, no, no, no, no, that's
and that's you are correct if that's distinguishing. Yeah, but
he could do that. You know, he walked into the
room and he was like the president coming. You know,
we went to the White House, and he looked more
presidential than the.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
President he did, and he could get donations. He was
the closer for most of our fundraising efforts in the
Wildcat Club. When he walked in and said we need
a new basketball practice facility, there were blank checks being
being signed. But I think just the management of the
egos he was very good at, and there were some
that slipped through the cracks and ended up transferring and

(51:03):
couldn't make it here under the way he liked to
do things. But when you throw the financial piece in there, Steve,
it just becomes even more challenging for the coaches nowadays
to have to manage the entourage that comes with that
and the expectations. Coach Candorea throughout the phrase mental health
versus mental performance. I think he's spot on with that.

(51:24):
Just the pressures that are on the student athletes now
and the head coaches are responsible for managing that and
shepherding the players and student athletes through those highs and lows,
and how to manage the entourage. Now that there's an
agent now, sure that's legal, So it's a whole new
ball of axe.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
And he had to deal with that back in the
day too, because you can unit the handlers trying to
manipulate blah blah blah. This Henry situation to me, I
thought Henry was a fantastic player when he first got here.
I was high high on him. Then this last year
was fantastic because I could see it. I could see it,
everyone could see it. And if he had a Henry guy,
I think he would be unbelievably disappointed because Henry, I've

(52:04):
coached to become this player and now you're leaving me.
Right now, you're leaving me after what I've done to
make you this player. I think you would hate because
that's what you did.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's potentially true, Steve, that there's a lack of loyalty.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, a certain degree, and this gesture on that list right.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
If it's probably three A if there was one, is
what you and I grew up with, and how how
people looked at institutions and looked at people. It's it's
a far more and not at this is a bad thing.
It's just it's evolved to a less loyal, more transient situation.
And so as a student athlete, because I have opportunity,
because there's financial gain beyond what the wildest dreams of

(52:44):
many people as we've looked at what players are getting
potentially paid now to three three and a half million
dollars for an eight month stopover at a school. And
I don't think Henry's in that necessary stratosphere, but he's
definitely done well for himself. How can you, as a
co coach look at a student athlete and say you
should be loyal to me and not take that money.

(53:05):
I think that's almost unfair to the student athlete. But boy,
that landscape has made it a much different situation for
a head coach.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Walks you that six minutes went by like that with
two quick discussions. We've got to go take a break.
We'll get some breaking news from Kobe, and then talk
to John Fieda after that.