Thursday, April 3, Hour 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you a while?

Speaker 2 (00:00):
This is Tucson Sports Stay yet, Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight,
breaking down all the axes and ohs. This is I
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen
fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Welcome back to Alaball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm
Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver. We have Kobe at the
controls here, hoping you guys can hear us if you'd
like to give us a quick call five to two ozero for.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Of that's really that's okay. I think we're okay.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
You can hear the ads five two zero four one
six seventy four forty. I'd like to hear from you.
See what's going on when your thoughts on the transfer portal?
Uh continue? Are you on Facebook at all? Do you
follow like the women's The women's situation is worse than
the men's. Yeah, and just you know, everyone's wondering what
the heck's going on. I guess we won't know for
a while, if at all.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, I mean we'll players start coming here.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Women's hoops, I mean they've lost pretty much most of
the roster, I guess at this point, and there's some
question about who would be coaching them, I suppose as well.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, yeah, well though sometime soon and now do you
still trying to get some players to come here?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
So yeah, I mean she's basically lost seven players and
no no one's been added. So yeah, you know everyone
from you know, Cunningham, Skyler, Jones, Canavets, I can never
pronounce her name, Kennazevich, Ross Swan, Jada Williams, and ay
Yoakum all lost, all left, I should say so, And

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no one has signed, so the roster has not been
replenished by any means, and who knows what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, okay, I think I think if you can hear us,
I'm glad you can. I think it's online or in
the radio. I think you can, but you can hear us. Kobe,
You're good.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, we're all good.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Okay, So again, then we want to call please do
five two zero four, one sixty. We'd like to hear
from you. See what happens with the men's team. I'm
sure that Tommy is out there chasing some players or two,
and there's some pretty good ones out there, and Arizona
still a quality team to come and play for him.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I would think so, and you know, we I think
we have to kind of give him benefit of the doubt,
knowing how he's gone to Europe and brought back players
every year. You know, let's assume that's going to happen again.
And none of us know who those players really are.
We're not we're not really in the loop on those type.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Of and they're waiting for the word on Burisa. Oh,
it's right, the recruit from there. I thought he was
going to announce something on Tuesday. Tuesday, Nathan McDonald's game.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
You didn't do anything, because we would have heard by now.
Of course, I haven't really written anything or I haven't
posted anything. I don't have He is probably Horse Rivera
with his stuff. But I've been wanting to write a
column about all this.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
But what can you say? I mean, what can you.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Say about this mess? You know that I'm glad I'm
not Tommy, that you don't have to deal with this,
because because it's the thing about it, he's not alone,
He's not alone. No, no, And if you're not a
final if you're not a Final four team, you have
to deal with this. If you're a final team, you
don't have to deal with this yet.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
No, I mean just about every program in the country
is reshuffled right now. And I mean basketball season not
even over yet until Monday. Yeah, I mean teams are
you know, already scrambling and looking to get players and
people making decisions already.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah. About what about school? Is that a factor at all?
We talk about that all the time.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think COVID kind of screwed everything up where now
it's online.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Rarely do they go to class.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
They can do a lot of the classes online or
or you know, self pace or whatever. How many classes
do you have?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I have two online and three in person in person?
And how easy know the ones that are online? The
online ones are easier.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, and that's you welcome those, yeah, because but
don't you miss the interaction?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah? I do in person because it feels more like
a college life. But if you want easier classes online,
definitely the way to go. Sounds like me, where was
this forty years ago?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
You got to go to class, had to go to class,
had to sign up, and they had to take role
your head?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, are you here? Take your name off? What's that
answer of silver? Yeah? I don't know, I don't know.
I didn't read the chapter. Ya yay, Yeah, college right right, Well,
it's it's all the experience you put into it, right.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
You know, And and I did. I don't know about you,
but I once I got into my journalism classes, it
was it was fun because that's what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
But yeah, college is it's great for most people, the
best time of your life. Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Until well who's uh oh, yesterday Ray was talking about that.
How you know, he was in the army and he
was he's a little older, he's twenty three, you know,
a young kid too. He says, you know what, the
real world is easier than the college world. And I'm thinking,
what are you talking about? And he said, because you
have a lot of things when you're in college. You
have to worry about classes, and if you don't have

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a lot of money, you have to work. You have
to do a lot of things, internships, blah blah blah,
and that's a lot of things on your plate.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
And I said, wait, do you get to the real world.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
That's when the pressure begins. You have to be good
at what you're doing and have a high quality of work.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
And if you have a family, exactly, there's that to worry.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Have you seen that that comedian I think it was
he's a juggler and he's juggling one thing.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You only have one thing to do.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Then you got school, and then you got kids, you
got a house, and you're juggling five try to keep
them all in the air at the same time.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's true. Life sucks. That's the way it is.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, enjoy college while you're in it because because reality
comes and next thing you know, you're you know, like Rebecca,
she's raising the kids and she's coaching and she knows
a lot a lot going on there.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Right. Well, good for that program because it deserves that success.
It's been fantastic over the years. Hit all lull here
for a little while, and now they're back.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I mean when I was working, we would we would
try it out there, especially during playoff time.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
They were always in the playoffs. They were always successful.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
But you got a bunch of a bunch of Tucson
girls were on the team, you know, so we all
sort of knew some of them, and you know, we
all we you know, it was it was a good
local story.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well you pull on a name with Stacey because she
was fantastic. The right, she was the bank Candrea of Pila.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
She it was interesting how her career worked.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I know you've probably had her on the show a
few times, just her talking about you know, she was
with Mike, she was on her own. She went to
Yava Pie for a while when I think they won
national championships at both Pima and Yava Pie with her
and comes back to the U of A. And I
think she just wrapped things up a couple of years
ago too. But yeah, and so many women and girls,
you know, had a chance to play for her and

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for Rebecca and for her dad. Yeah, so you know,
there's it's a great little legacy going. And you know,
Rebecca's kind of you know, the next generation. So here
looking at her roster, it's like like nineteen players and
eighteen of were from Tucson High School.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
And she's relatively young to be doing this right and
find a nice career. She doesn't have to leave anywhere,
especially when you're successful.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, and it was always a good little story with
the with the you know, the dad and the daughter
kind of coaching together.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
So yeah, you know, he was he was great. It's
just you've never met a story. I've never met him
it must have been a very good coach back in
the day.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, I mean, you know that little flowing Wells period.
You know, early two thousands, there were a couple of
state championships that came out of that program.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So, okay, anybody else again, if you want to call
five to zero, four one, six, seventy four, forty, I'd
like to hear from you. In the second hour, we're
gonna have some breaking news from Kobe, and then we're
gonna have it Orosburg here at about four seventeen, talking about
what's going on in the major leagues, and maybe talk
a little about Arizona because I know he's a big fan.

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He's always sending me questions, what am on ye are
they gonna win tonight?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
What do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
That?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is that into it? What do you think about the transfers?
And he says, I don't know right now, it's too fluid.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I hate to say it.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I just haven't had a chance to concentrate on you
of a baseball yet. I see some of the highlights
in some of the games. I guess I'm not a good,
good super FANCI just yet. But you know, we're getting
into the nitty gritty of their season and their conference
games are playing teams none of us, none of us
really new much about it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, they got beat yesterday, two days yesterday, and two
days ago by Grand Canyon. They they don't want to
play Grand Canyon anymore because they's four in a row.
Really that they've lost to him. Yeah, yeah, they have
trouble with that school. They're pretty good.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah. Well didn't they knock them out in the playoffs
last week?

Speaker 4 (08:14):
So yeah, they were. I know they've been here for
the playoffs at least a couple of times. Yeah, but
that's a good babe. Cobe can look that up for
his breaking news. Grand Canyon Baseball baseball. You a baseball
because they're good. Obviously, there's certain teams that just have
your number. Yeah, but it's good. The games are you know,
they're available there. You can find them on if you
have ESPN. Plus a lot of the games are on TV,

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so you can down and see them.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I haven't paid attention. I kind of forget.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I don't know about yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know
about other people. But it's like, oh yeah, they are
on television.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
ESPN plus, I haven't watched any of it. I should
go out there. I do want to go watch PEMO
men's baseball because Ken Ken how comey yesterday was talking
about the roster and a couple of the players on
his team. He had the Japanese picture that he has.
He's the closer. I will dare say his name because
I'll butcher it. But he's on the Japanese World Series,

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Little League World Series champion. He was a pitcher, and
he's seen he said, he's never seen a picture with
the spin rate.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
That he's that he has.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Wow, which is saying a lot, right, especially in today's
age when people pay attention to stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's good. I mean uve A, I mean not to
go back to the u A.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
But twenty and eight so far and they're playing great
at home, fifteen and two at home, so they're doing
doing well. But they have lost their last game and
it was Greg n eleven paying No, they're not playing a
ISSU issue coming up? Yeah, ASU, right, So the weekend
series there and then they're back home for New Mexico State.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You're yeah, I don't claim to be naggy, but hey,
do you ever go to the issue baseball here and there?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Gosh, A long time ago, not not since they've been
in the Phoenix Muni Stadium all of the games at
old Packard State.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, tell me because back in the day when I
was in school in first year, they told me that
it used to be crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
It was.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I can't say I was there very many times, but
you know, it's right, very similar to Sanset Field or
Sansett Stadium was right on campus. So it was right there,
you know, kind of the same similar complex where you
had you know, baseball and softball and track everything right
swimming all together next to next to the arena and
football stadium. So it was a good little area and
it's gone. I saw a picture recently. I think it's

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I mean, I don't there's like putting some building. Really,
you know, there's they're waiting to destroy the whole place
because they've been over at UNI. Have you been to
the campus lately issue I was there a couple of
years ago.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's it's it's a city. It's huge. It's huge. Yeah,
it's sprawling, full of scoture.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I was going to go there as a freshman out
of high school and I went to register and all that,
I'm thinking, holy crap, and that's back then now it's like,
holy crap.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah huge.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Now it's a big place, big place, and you know,
a lot going on around a campus too. That's what
I liked about Timpe was just there's so much to do,
restaurants and stuff like that. It's a destination right place
you can just you don't even have to go to
the campus. There's places to eat, places to just you know,
hang out in Tenpedes.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Fun.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right, we went early, Right, we went early, So that's
our last commercial break before the hour, so we have
plenty of temper.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
But I just want to reminisce about Yeah, no, god,
we could. That's and that's what this shows about.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
You were back in the day. There's a great old time.
And when Luke let me ask you this, when lut
when Luke first got here and he came here and
talked about, you know, buy your tickets now, YadA YadA,
and he had this you know lines, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
What'd you think? What'd you think? Was he kind of
you thought it's gonna take him a while? Yeah, you
know what, It's funny.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Just today I was talking to somebody about that, about
that moment. Our good friend, the late great Dave Sitton,
I'm quite sure where he was working in eighty three,
but he tipped off one of my friends about Luke
going to be hired. Was you know, right around the
final four whenever you remember the time, Oh, all that

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sort of happened.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I can tell you because.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Cedric went to Philly, I think it was Philly to
go talk to him, and they happened to lose that game.
Hanson missed the free throws and you know he pulled
them aside, and yeah, all that story.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
But so really so this guy he was telling me
literally this this that's funny.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
You've been breathing this up because this was earlier.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Today and he was saying, yeah, Dave sitting you know,
told me that, you know, this great coach of Maya
was coming out and he's going to take the job,
and he's gonna, you know, he's gonna try to get
everybody to buy season tickets. And this guy went and
bought season tickets like way before, way before, and he.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Has them still. Really, he's eight rows behind the ben.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
How old is he he's probably late sixties, maybe a little.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Secay, so he must have been he was about he
had to have been, uh, but thirty thirty ish thirty
is the time.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
So he bought tickets just just like that.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's funny.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
I was not here yet for that announcement. I got
here later that year in October. But you know, it
was one of those things I was like, oh yeah,
remember just the seasons about to begin, got to roll out.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
That video of lout you know, warning everybody to bicycles
is not Favier's. I think he's listening.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Javier would know this because he was back to the student,
no a kid, you know, following all this stuff. I
think it might have been in eighty three, right, So
that's what forty two years ago, forty two years ago,
almost to the day, I think April fifthish, April thirdish,
because the thing that I had written in the books
a number of times was that they flew him out,

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him and Bobby and he stayed at the Westward back then,
and he went to go he went downstairs to go
to the gift shop. And how many islands do you
know in this town? There's a ton of them, right, Yeah,
there happened to be a little old lady, lute, what
are you doing here?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
If I've heard the version I heard was that maybe
there was a convention of people.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Maybe maybe she.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Was part of that, but everybody from Iowa lives here,
you know, they live here.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
And then she saw him in the gift shop.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Was it just looting and Bobby on that the kids
were here and they didn't come to take a look yet? No,
because yeah, because that had to be a big deal
to move the whole family out because they were all,
you know, high school ish age.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
I was, but that was the appeal because they were,
you know, mostly from the West coast. And he kind
of not that he wanted out of Iowa, but he
had already been overwhelmed by the people that he couldn't
go to dinner, he couldn't do anything because they overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Him or them.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, and luckily it came to and he turned into
but he was he understood it here because it wasn't
as bad.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
It wasn't as bad it was. I've never been to
where Iowa city. I was city, so I don't know
the culture there. I'm sure it's just really you know,
they would know Dave Silver if he was out in
the streets because.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Small town get an autograph yet.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Whatever, there's the kicker that he said, I hate to
bother you.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
But yeah, and then you eventually bother you, right. He
but he was a good sport. I never saw him.
I mean he he got to the point obviously late
in his life and late in his career where the
U of A used him to go do those things.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know, Hey, we're doing an event in you know,
San Diego. Weren't you was any colleague of yours? Well,
in a way, I mean we would you.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
When I worked at the Foundation, the Foundation, you know,
had an office for him, and they would set up
dates for him to go, Hey, we're gonna go again.
He would go to San Diego all because he was there.
He was in Cornado, so they'd just bring him out
to some party.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
And he was great.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
He loved doing the fans just loved it, even to
the you know, his final years when he would just
come to you know, something where he could just sign
autographs and smile and that was he was an attraction.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
And reminisce about the good old days, just like we're
doing just.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Like, yeah, they're gonna be calling us someday. In fact, Steve,
when did you write that book? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
In fact, I got a call today from someone I've
been trying to get on. I've had him on before,
one of your buddies. I think Bill rome who I
wanted to have him on yesterday and I left him
a message and I can't come on today. He's he's
too busy and he's gonna come in next week. But
you know, he was one of your time too. A
lot of people showed up in the mid eighties. I
saw Bill Romer not long ago.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Just golf course. No, no, he just he was just
at some breakfast. I was okay, he was there.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
So we haven't seen each other in ages, Oh really yet,
but he you know, he was, he was right there.
We were colleagues basically the beginning when I forstot he
was on TV.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, he was on Channel thirteen. He's also on Channel eleven.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I think doing I think he was doing play by
play for Arizona Baseball. I want to say the nineteen
eighty championship year was Roamer doing play by play?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'm not good. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
He'd have to tell that whole story. I thought there
was some affiliation though.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
So maybe we'll get him on next week when you're back.
We talk about the good old days, because he's had
like you and I or me for sure now that
the paper closed. All these different type of jobs, and
he had a lot. He was the voice guy at
the dog track, Hey, it comes.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
The corner.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
He was the.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Guy in the booth at the spring training for the
Indians games. I'm not sure if he was still doing
it with the Rockies came, but in those early years
that I was here, it was you know, Bill Romer
at the high covered field, in the High Court.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well Toros too, obviously, I think, yeahs yeah, So a
lot of the people listening, what are they talking about? Yeah,
the good old days. But that's what listens to us.
So people, the older people, good old, good old people.
Thank you very much for being with us. Anybody want
to call mess with this conversation, we'd appreciate it. Five
to change the subject for us five two zero four

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one six seventy four forty uh yeah. Any rumors I
think that kJ might might be looking at Georgetown.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Why why is that? Is there some relationship he's got
with I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
It seems like a weird fit. Yeah, I mean, but but.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
The money, if the money's there, yeah, or I'm sure
there's money everywhere.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, you wonder how these money deals even and are
rolled out to these guys like you know, heyky, we
have X amount of dollars, you're gonna get this much.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I just don't know. You know, we got a call,
Thank god, Hello, you're on the ear.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Who's this, hey, Steve? This is done?

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Hi, Dave?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Who Hey? I wanted to tell a little bit of
a season ticket story my dad, who got season tickets
in that eighty five eighty six season when they first
sold out. We had gone to a few games before.
We were at the Washington game when dead Less Shramp

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and the other big german were on that team, and
it was it was packed to the rafters. We were
in the last row with our head up up against
the seatings, and my dad was hemming and hauling about
getting the season tickets. Now, I don't want, he goes,
I don't want to see Washington State. You know, he
didn't want He didn't want those games. He wanted the

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u c l A games in Oregon state at the time. There,
I go, you better get a ticket or else you're going.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
To get locked out, right right, how was the sure
enough go ahead? Go ahead? Well, have you gone to
recent games.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I went, I was at a game or I see,
was it last year I went last year?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
This is the reason I asked, is how do you
compare the crowds then to now and and and the craziness.
If there is a craziness, it's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
It's not a little bit, it's it's a lot more
corporate now with you know, with with the activities every
time out, you know, and then it's so dark in there.
It reminds me of I went to a game in Orlando,
a playoff game with the Orlando Magic and UH and

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the seventy six ers one time, and it was it
was a lot like that. You know, they you know,
they stopped the clock and they have to do something.
And back in the old days, when the lights were on,
you know, the band played, you know, the cheerleaders came
out on the court. You know, Joel came out. You know,
our man would come out. Well, in the early days,

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he would come out a lot more.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
And then as as.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
The program grew, he kind of he came out as
a shot of adrenaline. But I mean, I think to me,
it seems like it was crazier in the old days
because it was a lot more.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Collegiate.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah, there you go, collegiate. I was going to say
high schooling, but it was more collegiate. It was more
college like like football still is. Football is still college
football compared to when you go to an NFL game, Well, you.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Know what, what are the criticisms? And then spend this way.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Since I've been here, Dave and and you and you
have the blue hairs, everyone talks out how old is
Well it was the case when I got here in
eighty seven. They're always talking about nothing, just kind of
the same people who have the tickets, right, the same
family members. Do you feel the same thing done where
back then it was old people.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Or no, they're the ones that had the money for
the tickets.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Exactly, No, exactly. That's kind of my point, and it's never.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Gonna change it now. And now you know who's the
ones that have the tickets The children of those same
blue hairs, But now they're.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
The blue hairs look at us, exactly.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
I mean, I'm I'm sixty now, but my kids were
too young when when my dad passed away and I
got I had the tickets for about five years, and
I you know, it was just too hard because I mean,
I havn't seen them tickets. It's like being on the team.
I mean, you got twenty games to go to. You know,
it's a lot. It's it's it's a it's a big

(21:53):
it's a big responsibility. That's the way I felt about
it is It's just it was it was just too much.
My kids were too little, and you know, and back
then when games were starting at seven, it was too late.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
What I was gonna say is my memories of those years,
those early years, was it because it was so new
and all of a sudden, here we are, you know,
all of a sudden Arizona's ranked in the top parts
of the country. It was amazing and no fans just
didn't know what to do, but they went crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
You're exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I think that has a factor, a place, a factor,
because it was so new.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
It was fresh like it. Yeah, it was joyous, you
know what. I when I went to a women's game,
I guess maybe not to maybe it's not fair to compare.
But like a few years back when Aery McDonald was
playing and started, you go to some of those games,
it kind of felt the same way. It's like fans
were just glad to be there. They were cheering everything. Yeah,
every made basket was like a huge celebration. But that's

(22:49):
the way it was back in those early years with
with Well. I liken that to what you guys are saying.
Do you buy a nice sports car, a nice sports car,
and you've always loved this sports car, right, but you
drive it for three, four or five years, and then
it becomes this old sports card. You want to get
a new sports car, and that joy of getting that
team in the mid eighties.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Is turning to this older sports car that you're kind
of spoiled by driving an all the time. You want
a different one, and you kind of try to refine
that magic and it's sometimes it's not there.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I mean we're not there.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
And then the program has been in such a place,
you know, it's been visible. I'm not you know, elite ish.
You know, they've always been up there in the rankings,
always in the conversation and everything. So therefore I think
that a lot of people think that anything less than

(23:41):
a final four is a disappointment. Yes, yes, And then
like and like what I was, you know, I was
here through East Tennessee State and Santa Clara and back
in those days, if that was loot, today they don't
want it them fired.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, you know, you lose two first round games in
the beginning, but that was the beginning, that was the
infancy of the program. So we you know, we suffered
through it, you know. And then there's so many people
from somewhere else in Tucson, so you got peace for
it in your home town. But but now, you know,
after all this time, Arizona's been so elevated that anything

(24:21):
less than a final four is a disappointment. And to me,
they get out of the first round, Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
We're playing with house money.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
That's the way I feel about it. See how far
this goes.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, you're you're you're kind of a lone ranger in
that because I think anything less than Sweet sixteen. And
then you know, the way they played in the Sweet
sixteen now kind of saved them again. You know what
I'm saying. They played with heart, they played with energy.
Had they not, had they been blown, like twenty five
people here would have been pissed.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Oh that, yeah, they'd have been upset. And then the
thing is is they played their butts off to get there. Yeah, yeah,
it was it was an accomplishment to get to the
sweet sixteen. And I remember when getting to the Sweet
sixteen was a big deal. And and I think it
it's it's kind of gotten dulled because of the real

(25:11):
much success. Yeah, it's it's it's become routine. And it
would be I think it would be neat if the
games got more collegiate and it was more joyous. But
I don't know how you could. You can't go back,
you can that, you can't.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, it's too It is what it is now because
they just got to find a way of being more
entertaining somehow.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
You would almost need we would almost need like a
homegrown kid that stayed that you know, that got there,
led the team, stayed a while, kind of Sean Elliott like,
you almost need something like that to kind of reinvigorate
the fan base, social media and everything. There's so much
negativity even even during the positive stuff that it's bad.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, even if you're good, though, are you gonna are
you gonna stay or are you gonna yeah, transfer or
that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yea, Yeah, we gotta go, We gotta go. Thanks down
for the call. Take care of it, Take care of
a good weekend, you two. We gotta go, come back
with some breaking news and then have ed vospergu on
the other side.