Thursday, July 24, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
We're waiting for Andy Brown to come in studio. Got
ray with us today. Hey have to tell you, remind
me of to tay you something you have to break. Okay,
now that you just kind of came in, welcome to
Thursday show. See you can get through the week, and
let's try to get through the day. We had a

(00:40):
press comments at the u of A with Crebas and
Toby Owaka. So play that at the four o'clock for
seventeen hour. Interesting stuff, you know, previous enough for the
most talkative guy, but gave us information about his health
and his ability to play this year. And Toby very

(01:00):
well spoken and he lost track of time. Uh, so
we'll talk to about We'll listen to both of them.
I didn't ask any questions that I didn't have anything
to ask, so everybody that was there had plenty of questions.
Uh in the first hour, though, when Andy comes here,
we're going to talk to mister mister Sean Mooney from

(01:24):
Channel four, longtime friend of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
He people may or may not know this.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
He was with the WWE many years ago, and I
don't know a lot of the characters from back then
because I wasn't a big WWE guy, but he was
the guy that that kind of the studio guy that
introduced in some of the guys that Mooney maybe you
can't remember that now when the party we were just
a kid. So he's been he was with them maybe

(01:49):
twenty twenty five years ago or something like that. So
we're gonna talk to him about the death and maybe
maybe his friendship with the hul Caulgin today to the
Hulk brother seven one years old heart attack, I guess yeah,
big dude, Oh yeah, big dude. One of the most
powerful names in the business. Yeah, i'd say so.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean, that's it's one of those guys that you know,
it's kind of like he's up there in like the
Hall of Fame, like you know what I mean, where
it's like, you know, it's like him the ultimate Warrior,
Rick Flair, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Andre the Giant, those back in the day guys.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, I don't know very many now, although it's changed,
the whole game has changed. Back then, it was like
niked girls and beating people up. Yeah, no, it's not
so much.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah, it's it's more like storyline theatrical i'd say, now,
like building rivalries, you know, seeing who plays to the
crowd a bit better.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
But yeah, i'd say I probably stopped watching.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Any of those.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
When I was younger, my parents took me to some
not w W stuff, but kind of fun you know,
lucha or whatever with the mask.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I mean, you're talking forty five years ago. Years ago.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I actually, actually, now that you mentioned it, I did
go to I went to like an amateur like wrestling
thing that they had at at a tequila festival here
in town.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Reel or fake. Oh it was it down here in
the restaurant. No, it was. It was at Reda Park.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think, oh yeah, the ring and kind of yeah,
the ring was there and all that stuff real.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I mean, the the pain looked real. It's like some
of those things where the journalist is this real.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
This is this real?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And beat the crap out of them, right yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
John Stossel, Okay, so we're gonna have him at three
seventeen Taco to him about the w w E and
then what he's up to, because he does.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
A lot of sports here locally.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Given the state of the news department here at Channel
Pour Channel nine, ten thirteen, a lot of the news
people do the sports with only one anchor. So there's that.
What else is going on with you?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
No, really, just following like training camp rumors as much
as you can.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, with the NFL, Yeah, yeah, just stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
You'll have that. I'm breaking newsday soon.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, some stuff, some stuff, relevant stuff. Okay, so practice
starts here pretty soon for you, of a. We'll got
four or five days. Media day is Tuesday. So there's
that Hall of Fame games back on the thirtieth of July.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, already.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Who's playing in it? The Chargers and the Lions. Chargers
and the Lions. Okay, that should be the Lions would
be pretty good. Charges are pretty good too. It's pretty season. Yeah,
So what kind of grief did you give me today? Oh? Dude, Ozzie,
how come on?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Man?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Like it's because like I was listening to.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
The show yesterday, you know, before I put it up,
and you know, I heard Blake talking about Ozzie.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
He just he just spat it down. Yeah, he's a
music guy. Yeah, yeah, but I'm not a music guy.
I can't I know, Like I said, I maybe know
two or three songs of that group Black Sabbath than him,
but that's about it. Yeah, so they're not gonna I'm
not gonna go well they need to be in with
your young head banger. Yeah nah man.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean I'm obviously like going to like sports
games and stuff. You hear Crazy Train all the time,
but you know, no more tears the reality show. Even
like he was like he was he I feel like
he transcended music in the sense of like he was
always tied to music, but he kind of just became
a star after a while.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right, He's never mentioned in these father figures on TV.
He's not like Albundie or yeah, or you leave it
to beaver guy or something. He's just because he was
part of that too. Yeah, and kind of like a
chill was he chill? He seemed pretty chill.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I mean he was.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
He was probably on some stuff most of the time,
so it's hard not to be yeah, exactly. Yeah, I
remember there was there was a clip of a show
like his daughter's like a teenager or something.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
At the time, and.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
She's like, hey, I'm going now with friends, gonna have
some money, and he just pulls out like a wad
of like one hundred dollars bills and he was like,
here take.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
It, okay, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
What I mean, I'll be going out tomorrow night too.
In the day after that. Okay, I don't know what
that means. But having that.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
Much money, yeah, me and me giving it either yeah
you need how much twenty estra ba, I'll give you ten. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I always.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Having only recently got into rock and like really like
started diving deep into like kind of heavier metal. It
was just, I mean, it was kind of sad, to
be honest, though. It was really surprising that he lasted
that long, you know, yeah, because he'd been you know
for a while. Well he just did heat. Man, all
that stuff he put in his body. It's almost like
it's almost like these old wrestling guys, right, It's like,

(06:40):
how is Rick Flair still alive?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
He was like the party like, yeah, god, you know
what I mean, Well, you do you see Bvice? You
watch Wevice? Sometimes they have the back in the days
of Secrets of Wrestling, nineties whatever, something that's pretty cool,
I mean very strange. Were cool because so many stories
Yeah about people killing people and corruption and whatever. Yeah, yeah,
all that stuff's crazy.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I mean, but I mean it's a I mean, there
is a reason they call it an entertainment business and
not necessarily a sport, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So yeah, yeah, because it's kind of crazy. Yeah, it's
a lot of drama boxing to what everything has drama?
Yeah that's true. Man, has there been an a good
box Oh? Husk was this weekend?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wasn't it the past weekend?

Speaker 8 (07:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
This weekend?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, this past one.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Pao fought this weekend? He did?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Howd that end? Draw? Because they were trying to set
I think they were trying to trying to set up
the pay Mayweather return. But I'm not sure that's going
to happen given that he it was with draw. Yeah,
he didn't have very much time to prepare, or he
didn't prepare for two months three months? Yeah, Well, I mean, hey,
tough being a boxer and a politician.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
And being kind of bold yeah for a boxer.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right, yeah for sure, But yeah, good stuff. Looking forward
to the weekend. I think what UFC poor you a? Yeah,
it was it went five. Yeah, it was. Yeah, he
had no chance to in that.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Max Holloway just has such a crazy chin, yeah, because
like you know, he points in the middle and like
you know, Porrio is kind of like curling up a
little bit, and he just lets one go and he
catches Max Alloway like right on the chin and they.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Hit beat him twice. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, yeah, and it like you could tell, like it
turned his head and everything, and he just, like Max
Holloway still just kept throwing.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's like, man, dude, this guy's chin upsets. Yeah, that Saturday, right,
a lot of the upsets one, So I watched.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I watched that frequently.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Do you like the UFC? Yeah, but I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Good with names.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, that's fair because I used to cover boxing and
I just don't do that much anymore.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I feel like it's it's easier to like not remember
names just because of like weight class, there's so many.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, well, and you know, I guess it is. I'm
sure you heard this part too that I don't care.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, no, for sure, which is sad to say, but
you know, you have other things to do. Yeah, once
you have kids in your double life, yea doubt. He said,
that's not important anymore.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah, specially paying for like the pay per view and stuff.
It's like, right, well eighty bucks, yeah, anything like that. Yeah,
you just wanted to entertain, be entertained.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, something just pass the night while you're inside on
a Saturday, right, Okay, So Andy's coming in. He he
spaced it. He spaced it. He said, oh man, he
said other things, but oh man, I forgot. Yeah, so
he's coming in about thirty minutes. So when about three minutes,
will take a break, we'll get a hold of Sean Mooney.
Talked about the good old days and wrestling and his stuff.

(09:27):
Now that should be fun again. The next next hour
will have Crevis and uh Waka on the on the air,
and we'll have breaking news, right yep, anything else going on.
I haven't seen ESPN. I haven't seen what's going on?
Oh last night you know TVT? Do you watch TVT?

Speaker 9 (09:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, so last night I can't remember la ignite I
guess ex plaining And they were up by four with
about the time didn't matter they were they had a
set score. Yeah, they had a set score. I guess
who was on the team. Rolly all can so he
was playing and he had a huge turnover, gave the
other team a chance to win it, and he and

(10:06):
they did.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Oh it was a bad pass.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, and they played for a billion dollars, right, and
he just had a bad pass. And I haven't seen
Rody Alkins. He's a big bit heavier now. It's been
seventeen eighteen, for eight years since we saw him here. Yeah,
although he's been on campus a time or two.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Okay, yeah, it's not a Mealbok on the call was
pretty yeah on that game.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
No, No, on the game before. Oh really on TVT Yeah,
oh really yeah, what was the game? Uh it was
like D three, it was yeah remember that. Yeah, yeah,
at won r D three because and then Gabe York
is playing too, he's with Eberlin. Yeah, and they're still playing, right, Yeah,

(10:48):
there's some guys from u OF are still playing.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I mean's cool stuff.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Well, I mean no, no, it's just cool because it's
like it's not like just professionals, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's like because they have money at stake.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's you know, get your name out there.
Maybe they're a little bit hungrier kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, but most of them are are are older dude
who already been in the league or are in Europe
playing ball or yeah, still have that love for it. Yeah,
I don't recognize too many names outside of maybe whatever
because Louisville the team that played a Louisville copy yesterday too.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, and you know what the heck? What do I know?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's how it goes. Okay, let's do this. Let's take
a break. We have about four or five minutes, right, yeah,
and then we'll get a hold of Mooney and talk
a lot about the WWE.

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Speaker 2 (16:47):
Hey, welcome back to you, y on the ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. We've got
Rey handling the calls. We're trying to reach Mooney right now.
Talk about the wwe Cogan's.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
See what's up?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And my guy Andy Brown is on his way here.
It's gonna make him run some laps. I almost see
what Loop would have made him do back in the day.
Oh called, we had him.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
We haven't.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
We did a bit, but okay, call got dropped.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Okay, I'll tell him.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
We're calling him right now. Man.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
It's it feels like a lot of a lot of
a lot of legends are passion.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know, someone just texted me. It seems like all
the people we grew up are passion away. But we're
not young. I'm not I know, I'm not young. Yeah,
and seventies, eighties, your nineties.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't get to like like I didn't
get to see like whole Cogan in his prime and
stuff like that. But and same thing with Ozzy Osbourne.
I guess I didn't really get to see him like
in his twenties and his thirties and stuff. But you know,
I kind of just you know, this is the people.
It's like, oh, these are the people that like started
stuff for like very much like pioneers in their respective fields.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, is you know the answering?

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
No, I did well, I don't know because he answered
and then the call got dropped.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
I called him a text him. Can okay Walkingham calls? Yeah,
I think that'll probably be better just because it can. I
don't know why I can never do like just oh
yeah I can. Here we go there, No, no, no yet,
We're just gonna call him back ro okay.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Who I've asked you this question. Guys ask everybody this question.
Uh who's old to you? Am I old to you?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (18:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
But I feel like once you you know, old, kind
of it's a different perspective when you're like, you know,
growing up, because it's like you're fifteen and it's like
thirties old.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You started getting to thirty and it's like, I don't know,
like when you were in your army, how were your leaders.
How old are they? Not very much older?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Probably some of them, some of them were some not.
I don't think that. I don't know why it's not
accepting this numbers. I keep saying, like it's busy. Are
we on the fourteen fifty? I think, yes, we're on
the fourteen fifty car. Let me just see, let's see what.
But yeah, like I don't know. I guess people that
I would say that I consider old, are are old.

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It's like probably like above, like fifty five. You know,
he got a decade left. Well, in a perfect world,
they got a decade left of work, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, yeah, at work, I'm working him. So do I
need to call him now? We've called him somewhere.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
But yeah, I wouldn't say the like I think the
like the oldest probably sergeant I had was like thirty
five or like, oh there was one that was like
kind of he was up there. It's like forty six,
which is like Army standards is it's kind of up
in age, just because how physically taxing.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
Just so just he says he's calling us, Okay, okay,
I'll keep a lookout. Okay, but here we go, mooney, Hey,
what's going on?

Speaker 9 (19:59):
I got the tax, didn't get your Yeah, we called.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
We called a couple of times. No, no big deal.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Thanks thanks for joining us, calling and talk to you
for a lot of different reasons. How's it going? First
of all? There, Yeah, how's it going?

Speaker 6 (20:15):
That's good.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
Are we on the air? No?

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, yeah, we're on the air. Hey, everybody, you've been
on the air with me before, haven't you?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (20:24):
Once or twice? Okay, yeah, remember the radio show we
did way back. Yes, assume you're calling because of kind
of a sad day today.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, yeah, how well did you know hul Colgan? And
then give me the time periods you were there?

Speaker 9 (20:39):
I knew, I knew.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Holt pretty well.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
I was there from eighty eight until ninety three, which
was pretty much the golden here. Hey, when it was
really started to take off. So I was I was
very blessed to have been a part of all that
when it was really taking off. Now, the early years,
you know, you talk about Wrestlemedia one, and that's where
and you know, people really started to take notice, and
then of course WrestleMania three and that's when it really exploded.

(21:08):
But the wave was still just building at the point
when I came in and when it really took off
and hul Coamedia was was definitely running wild.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
He was.

Speaker 9 (21:19):
We had other great superstars that were a part of
all that, but nobody could top pull Cogan.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
What made him, What made him so special.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
Well, there's a number of reasons that I think that
Terry Terry Believe as we know him.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Was so special.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Just you know, his the charisma that the guy had.

Speaker 9 (21:45):
If you were just near him, you could feel it.
Besides his imposing stature. I mean he was sixty seven
six eight, you could argue, but just this massive guy
with the you know, the golden tan and the the
golden hair and the twenty four inch pythons.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
As he would often tell you about, right, and he
just had it.

Speaker 9 (22:08):
Now he combined it. There was a lot of people
that had come before him that he took things from.
Mainly one of the biggest was superstar Billy Graham, who
was one of the first real big bodybuilders and you know,
and changed the shape of professional wrestling back then, being
one of those the guy that you know had this
sculpted body you know before that you didn't really see.

(22:30):
You know, a lot of that he saw, you know,
big guys, but they didn't have the sculpted bodies, and
he took a lot from him. And he was also
a huge fan of Dusty Rhodes, who people that are
professional wrestling fans know that. You know, Dusty was a
master at being in front of a television camera and

(22:50):
a microphone as the common man, but he could just
cut of promo, as we called him. But you just
had that whole combination and the time. Back in those days,
everything was divided up into territories. He had worked for
Vince Senior prior to it for everything taking off, but
then he got this opportunity to work on this little

(23:13):
movie that had done pretty well and they were doing
some sequels to something called I think it was Rocky,
and he was going to be this character Thunderlips, and
Vince Senior thought that that was going to ruin him
because he was going to be a villain, and he
basically fired him. He said that if you're going to
do this, you're not going to work for him. And

(23:33):
Therry said, okay.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Then you saw what happened after.

Speaker 9 (23:37):
That, and of course Vince Junior, who had taken over
the company, knew what he had, he saw that lightning
in a bottle and persuaded the Hulkster to come back,
and the rest is history.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
But you know, as I said, there were some great superstars.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
Along the way, they were all a part of that.
We could go on and on with a Maacho Man,
million Dollar Man, Tad, all those guys, but it was
Hulk who really carried that company for years, and even
when Vince realized, thinking, Okay, Hulkamani is gonna wane at
some point, I'm gonna have to get some other guys
in here, and and they eventually did, but they always

(24:16):
went back to the Hulkster, and that the test, the test,
you know, the testament to that is the fact that
he was the main event, in the main event for
the first eight Wrestlemantis. So that just tells you something.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
At that time, I really I didn't know you. I
didn't know you at all back in the eighty eighth
and to ninety threes. But I A used to get
to think of Dave sitting, the late great Da've Sitton
mentioning you, you know, and the Mooney's coming into the
town for show, blah blah blah. I'm thinking, who is
this man? Guy, and finally I realized, Okay, you're the moone.
They always talk about Mooney with the guy that's always

(24:51):
yelling at you.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
What was his name? Maybe, what do you mean from
the Bobby Heen?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, or yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
They all took their turns, but Bobby gave it to
me pretty good. But uh, you know, I loved it because,
as we say, the business that's putting me over. Uh.
I worked with me and Gene Okerland, who was a master,
and so I had some great mentors. Gorilla Monsoon was
also I was very close to. But it was it
was a wild time. It was one of the greatest

(25:23):
times of my life. And and you know, I just
look back today with a great sadness because it was
just such an incredible era. And I know that there
are millions of fans out there and I'm certainly people
here in our city and beyond that. It takes you
back when you were a kid and just it took

(25:44):
you away and your superheroes came to life and uh,
you know, saying your prayers and taking your vitamins and uh,
you know, believing in yourself and all that the demandments.
You know, it was just a part of so many
people's childhoods, and it took me a while.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
To get it.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Steve, Why people cared that I was a part of it?
But I certainly embraced it.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
So you stayed till ninety three? I think you did
Boston afterward. I could be incorrect or correct.

Speaker 9 (26:16):
But then yeah, if you won't believe it, I became
I became a news anchor. After that, I worked in
New York and then eventually went to Boston for a
couple of years and then came home.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Why did you give?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Why did you leave? Oh?

Speaker 6 (26:30):
I was a dumb kid who thought I was gonna,
you know.

Speaker 9 (26:34):
Do other things. I would have loved, you know, I
look back at it. It's a different time when you
when you have other opportunities in front of you. But
you know, I look back and say, you know, I
don't know if I would have stayed there forever, but
I would have loved to have stayed through the uh,
the attitude era with the rock and stone cold. But

(26:54):
you know, you travel a different path, and it is
certainly I've chaired something. I've chared my whole life, and
they still, you know, I'm still part of that that family.
You know, I still go back and do things I
did was at WrestleMania. They brought me back this past
WrestleMania and I hosted a panel and you know, got
to be backstage and see everybody and do some interviews

(27:17):
and it was It's just it's a great part of
my life. And so you know, a part of it
died today with with hul Cogan. And he was certainly
a controversial figure, there's.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
But love him or hate him or whatever you think,
you cannot deny that without him you would not be.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Seeing what we see today, what the w w E
has become, and that.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
Partnership with the Deaver and now and all that they're involved.
And without hul Cogan, we might still have territories, We
might still have people doing shows at these tiny arenas
and high school gyms, and hul Cogan changed all of that.
I mean, certainly, Vince McMahon deserves a tremendous amount of credit,

(28:04):
But as far as the guy that stepped into the
ring that you know, the whole strap put it on
his shoulders and you know Ulkamedia running Wilde, that was
that was all Terry and it was his thing and
people cannot deny it. And when they talk about the
rushmore of wrestling, his his face.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Is definitely on there. You cannot deny it.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Just a sad day, hey, Sean.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
So you kind of talk about how back in the day,
Vince Senior didn't really want guys kind of like partaking
in movies, and now you see a lot of sensationalism
in WWE.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Do you think, like, like, what do you think about that?

Speaker 9 (28:46):
Well, you know, back then it was a very close business,
you know, and and a lot of these guys that
were the old promoters who Vince rolled over on his
way to spreading the w w UF at the time
across the country of the world felt that that's kind
of the way you kept it. That was not Vince

(29:07):
McMahon's view. And as we've seen now, these guys and
I've been around a lot of performers during my lifetime,
I've never been around more gifted ones than professional wrestlers,
not just for their athleticism, but what they can do
in front of a camera. Hulk was not the greatest thespian.
I don't think you can ever argue that, but you

(29:29):
have to give him credit for the crossover that he
did doing mainstream entertainment, not only taking us into that world,
but also the fact that he was, you know, doing
that doing Hollywood movies, something Vince always wanted to do,
and then also television shows, and he paved the road
for people like The Rock and even you know, Roddy

(29:51):
Piper was another one. But you know, you've seen these still,
Steve Austin, and you know, on and on and on,
these guys that have become mainstream entertainment world stars. They're
not just professional wrestlers the Miz. I mean, we could
go on and on, and they owe that to Hulk Hogan, right.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Right, How probably this may be a dumb question because
you know you're at Channel four doing well as one
of the anchors here. How high in your resume is
the wrestling stuff?

Speaker 9 (30:24):
Well, I haven't had to put a put it on
the resume for a long time, but I always put
it on there because I was very proud of that,
and it taught me everything I could have ever possibly
wanted to be confronted with as far as you know, there,
I did studio work hours and hours and hours a

(30:44):
day doing what we call the event center back then,
where I would customize markets and we do one hundred
of them a week. I could explain and break it
all down for you, but literally I was in front
of a camera for four days. That gave me the
pipes I think that I still have. We did studio work.
I did live interviews and arenas with twenty thirty forty

(31:07):
thousand people. I you know, shot all kinds. I did
coliseum videos, I did all kinds of these posts of
those and so the training that I had was, you know,
it was deep. And I owe it all to Vince
McMahon for giving me that shot.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
And it's interesting that you mentioned that.

Speaker 9 (31:22):
Because when I went to work in New York and
when I went to work at Boston, and there would
always be somebody who would you know, put something in
there that you know, Searren Mooney never mentioned to you
was no, that was never me. You ever asked me.
I'm like, hell yeah. It was like management wouldn't want
because they were thinking, oh man, we can't put this up.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
It's supposed to.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
Be some credible news anchor. But you know, that was
never an issue. I went to school at the u
of A and study of journalism. I never had a problem,
you know, separating the two that to me, I know
what it is, but as we've seen today, the lines
are blurred. Yes, what we call entertainment and news, it seems.

(32:10):
But I have I'm forever indebted to the WWE for
that opportunity I got when I was just twenty eight
years old, and so.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
I wear that badge.

Speaker 9 (32:24):
Proudly and it's never been something I didn't ever want
to talk about.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
And last, maybe last question, because we've got to go
and then you know, you've got to go back to work.

Speaker 9 (32:32):
Yeah, I got to show to do.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
You got to show to do.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
So how is your show? You actually dabbling in sports
a little?

Speaker 9 (32:40):
Yeah, I've kind of gotten back into it, you know,
so people have me on all the time, and you know,
I may not be at the anchor desk, you know,
for who knows how long, but I plan to continue
doing that. So and you know, that's always kind of
been a first love of mine. I began working for

(33:00):
Major League Baseball productions in New York, so that's always
been and of course and then with Fox Sports that
it was the regional networks here for over a decade.
So yeah, you know, I never can get too far away, Steve, and.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I hope to be.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
Talking to you.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yes, well, we had our sports show well back and
that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 9 (33:21):
It was.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
We cracked wise a lot. Well, Mooney, Mooney, thanks a bunch,
Thanks a bunch man. All right, man, take care of
have a good show.

Speaker 9 (33:33):
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Speaker 2 (33:35):
I'm sure it does a lot of things, Thank you
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Speaker 3 (33:39):
But I just said it not to here. He's would
do to you?

Speaker 6 (33:46):
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
He said, mister Brown, you don't run last. We're not
gonna use you anyway though.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah. No, I didn't have as much on my mind
back then when I played for Luke. Yeah, just give
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Speaker 3 (34:01):
I was sitting over there on the other side of
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Speaker 2 (34:04):
Oh yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
You started texting me. I'm like, I'm across the hall.
We got to go.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
We'll come back. We'll talk about all this, yes, side.

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Speaker 2 (38:23):
Hey, welcome back to you wiring the ball here on
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be Andy Brown.

Speaker 9 (38:28):
I am.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
You gotta run some laps. You're late and the guy
running late today. You took your three o'clock. Now I
tell you what I did. I fell asleep and not
just kidding, so you can dock my pay. I decided
you can not pay me.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
For the first time. Can I pay you double or
can you pay me double?

Speaker 9 (38:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Maybe that's the deal. Maybe you're gonna charge me double?
What about great sponsors? So I do I get a
couple extra seconds? You can talk as much as you'd
like on this. There you go. Don't I apologize for that.
I lost track of doin you miss with Mooney? I
hate doing that, you know, shun money, I remember. Yeah,
that's good stuff. Yeah, pour out of the liquor for
our buddy o' colgan, right, right, crazy stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
He was controversial. Yeah, near the end, you know, with
his family and this blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah that happens. Yeah, no, and we're getting old.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I mean we're talking about this was right as we
get older, people who were just a little older than us.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, I told I was listening on my way. I
had to make sure what I was missing, right, See
how bad you're going to bash me? I was walking in.
But yeah, all our icons, right, are a lot of
the icons from our era. You know the Cosby kid.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Right, And that was just accidental. He'szzy.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I meant that. My first my first ever concert was
Black Sabbath in Vegas. Black Sabbath was here in Tucson.
Year it was It wasn't Ozzie, but it was black.
But yeah, we had all eighty two is no had
to be more like eighty seven is really six ish?

(39:57):
Okay maybe where is that see down the arena? Yeah,
yeah that was old school. That was back in the day.
They had all those contents down there. Yeah, why I
was I was a little ahead of I was ahead.
I had Iron Maid and Ozzy. You know, I listened
to all that crazy stuff when I was an angry youth.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Iron Maiden came here.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Oh yeah, that was Ronnie James do may not go
on for days, that's how old I am. But yeah,
we always say it comes in threes, and we were
waiting for that third person, and today that was a shocker.
Who's the So we had Malcolm Jamal Warner, Cosby Kid,
then you had Ozzy. When the turn over to the

(40:35):
next three because now it's well, yeah it's start so
so three, so tomorrow wouldn't before it just be the
start of three. That's it.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Okay, So now we're done it home, that's right, We're done.
We're hopefully you're getting ready for football. You're gonna be busy.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, we're hiring people, we're getting ready, we're doing trainings.
We're dumb. Yeah, we're optimistic just like everybody, yes, going
into the season. So I was just telling Ray it'd
be a good opportunity. Tell them what you do. Tell
people what you do. We provide staffing or security staffing,
two events, local events, all your e A events, casinos,

(41:14):
some of the Fox Theater, so convention Center. So yeah,
we we provide a great secondary income for those people
that want, you know, a little extra money here and there,
get to work some pretty cool events in town. What
we are pushing our non events side too, so that
we're growing on that side of the security as well.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you aren't you part of
the centurions or the I am a centurion? You you're
the one that I'm actually the membership president right now,
grand poopball?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Were you the who did was that the one that
the Yes? That was fantastic. Yeah, So that one we
just had so Dan Dan Nentel was the chairman for that.
We raised We brought in over one point seven million
in gross So is that from tickets? What's that? That's
from everything? With sponsorships? A lot of sponsorships. Yeah, guys

(42:00):
out and sell sponsorships and and all that money comes
back to local kids charities. Yeah. People loved Yeah Rock. Yes,
we wish we could have had them twice. Yes, I
could see that. After briefings were like did we really
need ladies? They brought down they.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
They did?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
You know those Canadians. Yeah, one good song. I remember
the Young Rock They were dandy, they were good. So
there's there's talks of bringing them back next year.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I totally agree. People would love it, especially that's that
group that you had there is are Yeah, no, yeah,
all those songs are exactly sing along songs. You maybe
you were embarrassed at the time to say, hey, I
like this song, but now that you're older.

Speaker 10 (42:51):
Like, I love this.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Hey, dad turned off that ambrosia. I know, I know
the words.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
How do you know all the words of this, dad,
I don't know what I'm talking about. How do you
think I met your mother? That's funny. I was driving
with my daughter the other day and she's got her
playlist on and all of a sudden, War Pigs comes on,
Sabbath and Ouzie and I'm going, how do you know
this song? She goes, Dad, I love this song. I go, oh,
here's a couple more. You should try. He's like, no, Dad,

(43:19):
just this one. Well, there's some bonding. And I got
some records. What are those the vinyl the black things
in the back? Yeah, I got those. You can listen
to him you want. How do you play those? Dad?
You're not a record player. What's a record player?

Speaker 2 (43:35):
He's don't fit in. The CD players were no fit.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
These are those big CDs.

Speaker 9 (43:39):
Dad.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
I heard about this. No, it's way before that. It's
called vinyl. You know how to great vinyl collection Coach Rosboro.
He had he still does has an amazing vinyl collection.
You can tell he lived it up in the seventies eighties.
He was the hippie dude he is. He is a
musician at hard. I think he loves music. He's a

(44:02):
very good big fishing autom. Oh he was there.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I saw him at the the Cody Ritchie production at
rialto for the Other.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Rock. Yeah, that's the other rock. They're pretty good to hear.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
There were, but they had connections to some other songwriters,
the real the real people, the real people who were
a couple of.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Jefferson starship people.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
I heard.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I was out of town.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I could have gone to that one. But yeah, it
was good and you see the usual people. You see
the same people. Yeah, you know the group that you
hang out with, all the same people were sports here, Yeah,
sports football.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
I was going to say, I had a topic I
was going to bring up today. Please, what what pastime
do you not consider a sport but other people do?
Like fishing for instance, Like I'm gonna go fishing this weekend?
Sports sports sports? When you pastime? Are you forcing it
to be a sport when you make it a competition?

(45:00):
How fun is competitive fishing? Like I go fishing to
relax and enjoy it the outdoors. Yeah, as soon as
bowl anything. So my brother would say anything that you
can drink and get better at is not a sport, man,
what would that be? So for me, that's fishing, bowling,
and golf. Throw a pool on there, yeah billions? Yeah,

(45:24):
playing pool, I always get bad. I think I can
make that. I can make that sho.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
You don't get better trump bank this one in. You
don't get better table tennis for drinking. But that was
kind of in my head this morning. I was like,
some people play better poker because they're just crazy. Put
it in there and they hit their car. So what's Yeah,
Like that was darts darts darkness? Darts a sport or
is it a pastime or is it?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Well they do both.

Speaker 20 (45:47):
Yeah, so I thought that'd be a good topic to debate. Okay, right,
what's your window? What's your wind? Like you know, like
in between drinks, like you know, like let's say like
one through. I don't know, you're pretty big guys, like
let's say one through like eight, Like what's your window?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
So like bowling, I go buy pictures when you bowl
because you can order pictures in the bowling alleys. So
probably the third picture. Yeah, when you start losing it,
I'm kind of like ball's mind. What lane am I in? Again?
So many lanes? I thought we were in four. No,
we're in six. Oh god, but really, well I got three.

(46:27):
I got three strikes over there, so probably three pictures. Yeah, dude,
I couldn't even handle one. Yeah. So yeah, bowling was one.
I remember, Well, he's my boy's a bar tender. That's why.
Oh okay, he knows.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I like playing pool too, so yeah, I no, I
always played betterpool after a couple.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, in between two and five pints.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
It's like, yeah, you stop funny about it. By the way,
we don't encourage drinking. The show responsib she must be
twenty one and you have to be responsibles. How it goes,
I call you so you can blame that on my brother.
He brings that up all the time. What's the sport
that you can drink and get better at? It's not
a sport, that's what. What did they play on the show?

(47:12):
I don't know, but that the cricket probably got a crookaball?
What about.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
You're on the air nine the ball?

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Who's this? We can't we can barely hear you.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
You can't hear me. You can hear me.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Singing again, singing again, mister crowd is singing.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Crowley.

Speaker 21 (47:40):
That's one of my favorite.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
There you go.

Speaker 21 (47:43):
And but but when you said I saw him Andy
h the vocalist, wasn't there there.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
I later have seen him, actually had a one of
my mentors actually was his security guy for five years.
And I got to see him in Phoenix backstage and
meet him and talk to him. And how was that?
How long ago that was? I was still at TCC,
so that's probably O six oh, So he was kind
of he was. Yeah, it was a warped tour. It

(48:12):
was up in I think it was warped tour, a
Dvands warped tour up in Phoenix, and we went up
and saw my buddy said yeah, come on up, and
we sat and watched him from the backstage. It was
Sabbath and they were playing. They opened the Iron made
and open for him, and that was good.

Speaker 13 (48:25):
It was.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
But yeah, his vocals weren't there, and he had teleprompters
right for every song, but his voice. I just watched
the video.

Speaker 21 (48:36):
I watched the video and I go the video for
mister Crawley from obviously from eighty two. I guess when
he went in a solo career and the guitar player,
I go, that guitar player is damn good. And obviously
it's the late I mean, I didn't I've heard of
the name.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Right, But he was so young, Randy Rode and he
rose great guitars. Yeah, oh my god, he was only
twenty five. It was tragic. Yeah, he's actually accedent. I
believe it was.

Speaker 9 (49:06):
It was.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
It wasn't drugs, was just what I think. It was
a plane crash. I think, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 21 (49:13):
The guy's so anyways, he's ultimate right up to my
top three now with Billy Gibbons and and uh Billy Idols.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah, because yeah aviation, Yeah, crashing, you.

Speaker 21 (49:27):
Got to think he's right up there because uh Jimmy
was twenty seven and this guy was only twenty five
years old.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah. Yeah, it was tragic, I remember, but that kind
of pushed uh Ozzie into fandom. I mean he became
a star and then then that really in spiraled him.
And but yeah that's rock and run. He had a
great wife, that's what.

Speaker 21 (49:52):
Smart lady. She's a great business lady. Yeah, yeah, Cooper's
she saved Alice was so much in the drugs way back.
They've been married for so long and she saved him. Wow,
by far, do you have a lady taking care of you? Yes,
I would hope. So getting to getting to mister Mooney,

(50:15):
I didn't. I missed the first couple of minutes. But yeah,
that's that's pretty cool too. The whole thing with Hulkamania.
I just saw a quick meme they had Fulk getting
into heaven and Rowdy was there under the Giant, the
Ultimate Warrior.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
And probably Watchmen. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Oh, I don't know who it was. The other guy.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
So many Yeah, us being dad, just being passed away.

Speaker 21 (50:43):
He's got a legacy of all the houses he built,
and one of them, I think the one he lived
in in Liken. He sold it in ninety two and
the Ultimate Warrior actually put a put a low ball
offer on and of course they turned him down. Yeah,
because the real the realtor, we we know him. His
name is Larry and he represented him and said no.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Not well Howard. Thanks Ago, we got to go start
the top of the hour. Thanks for calling. You guys
know you guys know your music. My boy here was
the guy at the Vegas at the Thomas and Max.
So he so he did, was at Thomas Mack for
a while. Yeah, we did a lot of cool. Yeah,
we'll get to that on the other side.