Tuesday, April 15, Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
For twenty five season after missing most of last year
due to a foot injury. The only remaining undecided player
is freshman forward Carter Bryant, who wasn't until April twenty
sixth to declare for the twenty five NBA Draft.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So his on the clock, Today's fifteenth. Yep, how can
I forget? It's a big day, big day. Yes, So
we have eleven days, so we'll see.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, what do you.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Think about Crevis coming back? You think he's gonna he one?
Is he gonna be ready?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Is he gonna be better because he was uninjured right away? Right,
and he could come back. I think this team would
have been better off with Henry, But what the.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Hell do you want? Man? We don't have that anymore.
Don't have that?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
This team would have been then if Henry came back
and Carter would come back.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Now that window gets even better, the windows wide.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
But you know, to his point, to his credit, maybe
CREVSS is gonna be ready and ready to go.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, I mean, it was obviously two different styles of
player player out there. You know, more of a kind
of conventional big man down low center. He's not going
to come more than ten feet out and do anything offensively.
But you know, that's kind of the way centers always
used to play. And Vasar showed us a whole different
type of player.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Right right, And and he'll have some complimentary guys Waka
and the new freshmen who are going to be very athletic.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, so there's that I'm looking for.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I've not seen CoA Pete, but if his dad was
an NFL tight end and he's built like.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
His dad, I've seen I've seen him just in videos
and he obviously looks smooth and big like you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, so that's gonna be an interesting dynamic to have.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
But you know, having a big guy in the center,
I mean, then it's been some a few of them lately.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know, then pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Zach Edy was pretty good at Purdue a couple of
years ago. So we'll see if that type of player
can be effective still in college basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Arizona softball national ranking saw a little movement after sweeping Kansas,
staying at number eleven and D one Softball and number
twelve and m NFCA poll, but their RPI dropped to
number thirteen. Though wildcats next opportunity to improve their seating
comes with the crucial series against Texas Tech as they
am to close the gap in the Big twelve standings.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh, and they have a big, good series coming up
with Texas Tech. Yeah, the million dollar baby, right, it
comes into town. The picture, Oh that picture, that's right.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well, they went to Kansas and they wiped them out,
so I don't maybe be winning those road games didn't
mean much for their overall ranking because Kansas isn't all
that great, but they swept them and they had a
couple of run rule games there. So again talk about
TV coverage, I was, I was sitting around. I was
watching you know, women's softball at like eleven o'clock in
the morning from Lawrence, Kansas. So the games are on

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if you want to watch them.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Arizona men's basketball has announced a home and home series
with Yukon, with the Wildcats traveling to Connecticut on November nineteen,
twenty twenty five and hosting the Huskies in Tucson on
November eighteen, twenty six.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah. I was, well, I'll cover them for a long time.
Is everyone else?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I went to stores for that game, and that was
the game that we talked about with the goldtending non
golden game. That was the time, the beginning of the
time that we started to realize that that Loot was
missing practice, missing games because of Bobby. I remember we
took that trip, uh, and I was on the team

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flight and I noticed that he was not on the
flight with the guys. Got arrived there really late. The
next morning they made the announcement he was not with
the team and had to be stayed with her because
of her illness. Rosboro coach, Rosboro coach, I forgot about that. Yeah,
So so that was the beginning of I think December,
December ninth, two thousand, yeah, yeah, so exactly, so that's

(03:45):
when it and she passed just a few weeks later
when he remember he started missing games and then the
uh the Fistobol Classic. He didn't coach in the championship
game against Mississippi State it was, and then she passed
on exactly yeah, exactly, so that was that game. Did
Ross coach that game? And there was a fantastic game.
That place was crazy cold as all hell.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I remember that well.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Just looking at the results of a few of those
games through the series, you know, there was a two
point game there, there was an overtime game here that
Arizona long.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Remember that game. That was a great game too.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, and then they lost to them in Maui and
they lost to them in Anaheim by two.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
But then the last two games they won, Azona beat him.
They beat him by fifteen here in twenty seventeen and
then beat him by four in Hartford.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
So so back then too, here you had loot against
Jim Callho Jim Calhoun. So you have two titans of
the game right going and that was part of the story,
just these two dudes. Now you have Hurley, who's Hurley
right and has done great job, and then Tommy trying
to beat that guy.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Get a chance to beat the Hurley brothers in the
same season, maybe, right, that doesn't happen for Arizona lately.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Arizona women's basketball get to commitment from guard and Mikayla Purdy.
Mikaela was the Horizons League Player of the Year last season.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, so like we said, I think that she'll be
able to find some talent, you know, maybe even players
of the years other places and bring in and start
a five, start a five, start a seven that will
be kind of working in the groove here and maybe
make something worthy the start of something.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
She had some good numbers. She averaged nineteen points a
game playing for Cleveland State. So you know, again the
competition question is always going to be out there. But
if she's going to start getting players, she's got to
start getting them gathering them together.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
See what she has the Seattle the Seattle Storm AF
selected Madison Connor in the third round of the WNBA draft.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So the one thing that we know about Adiya she
knew how to find talent. There's no question, there's no
doubt about that. It's like Mike said yesterday, could find talent,
but just couldn't keep it. Yeah, here and Mattie was
a heck of a player. She just couldn't stay here
or didn't want to stay here.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
She had strong connections in Europe too, right, Adya did,
so she would get players to come from all over,
kind of like Tommy does with the men's team. So
it's an interesting dynamic that those both those programs kind
of had. So I don't know, I don't know if
Becky Burke has connections you know, across the across the Atlantics.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Just talent, just gotta find the talent.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, So we'll see the Phoenix Suns have fired coach
Mike Budenholzer after a disappointing thirty six and forty six season,
marking their third head coach dismissal in just twenty three
months for the Suns. Budenholzer, who was let go after
just one season, joins Monty Williams and Frank Voleel on
the Sun's payroll, with a team now holding a staggering
seventy five million in contract for fired coaches since twenty

(06:44):
twenty three.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Imagine having seventy five million for people just to go away. Yeah,
I'm having a hard time with seventy five dollars.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's franchise is a mess. I'm sorry. Their roster is
a mess. They're paying all these guys way too much money.
They're already talking yesterday the day after the season ends.
They're always talking about getting rid of Kevin Durant and
Booker will probably be the one that stays and Beale
and Durant, who knows. But they're making way too much
and the coaching situation, they just have.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Not been able to put it together.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
No, you know, I mean even Monti Williams, who got
him to the championship a few years ago. Then he's out,
and then he's out in Detroit. I mean, the coaching
in the NBA is so crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, Steve is partly one of the longest tenured.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Coaches in the league. I got to be one of them,
and he's definitely.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think there's only two people in the last few
years who has a job after winning a title, because
there's I think seven of them, and there's five who
have been fired recently.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, Buldenheuzer, the guy who the Vogel guy two
there's been and three others.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I think Malone was Malone Denver.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
So who do the sons go after? There's all these
guys that are out there now that they could do.
They want to go get a you know, Malone, or
they want to go get Luke Walton. Does he want
to coach in Arizona again?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And then his success rate has not been all that great.
Does he want to be a head coach? Have you
talked to him?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
No? No, I talked to him when his dad passed
last year at this time, But no about Steve Nash.
What do you want to come in?

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I mean, honestly, that's good. That's a good name. Who knows,
but why, well, why do it? Because they're gonna pay
you a boload of money and if you don't do well,
they're gonna pay you a bowload of money.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Signed a nice five year deal for forty dollars. I mean,
crew has got to they're playing tonight. They you don't
want to be playing games against.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
What tis I start? Okay, so we'll see what happens
with that, Uh, the NBA. I'm still a believer that
the talent doesn't always win the day, uh college or otherwise,
because you give throw people money and it doesn't necessarily
mean that they're.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Gonna be good, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
And if you throw a lot of people money, doesn't
miss misses necessarily mean that they're gonna play well together.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I was joking with with my kids this this weekend.
We were talking about, well, is this gonna be it
for you know, for Staff and Draymond and that whole
nucleus of Warriors.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
And then then I kind of did a little Google
search on Kerr.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
He's making like two hundred million dollars more on his
contract and he's got so much money coming his way
if he plays, why would he leave?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Who?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Steph? Steph? You Okay, he said curse. I think I
mean Curry. Oh yeah, curse making. That was funny.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh yeah, no, yeah, And there's the court is no
longer there. Yeah, the court pretty much is. You know,
Thompson's in Dallas and it's only Draymond and uh and
Curry and Curry, yeah, because everyone else is gone. But
they're still putting it band aated together.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
They look they're fun to watch to me. And maybe
I have a bias because I am a Golden State
Warrior guy now and having for a while.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
But guess what.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
The rest of the league plays the same way. Yeah,
fight out for out whatever and just kind of.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Shoot the three.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
And maybe that's what people don't like anymore because everyone's
playing the same game because.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
The NBA is not being watched.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
It's been a great fit since they got Butler.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think Jimmy Butler's made a big difference. But you know,
he's been really hot.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
And no, we don't talk about it here that much
as the Clippers and then on fire in the last
like I don't know, six weeks something like that. They're
like twenty four and three or something ridiculous. They beat
the Warriors just on Sunday. I think it was in
a great game, huge game. He was a loss for
the Warriors. Gonna have to force him to play today
and not get to sit out for like, you know,
a week or so.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So the winner of this game plays whom.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
They are in the playoffs, so they will face the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah too, he'll be the seventh seeds.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
And you don't think the Rockie coach must be a
fantastic coach because he was out. He got fired at
Boston Boston because he turned that that franchise around in
a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, you know that, and that just don't happened by accident.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Dallas Mavericks GM Nigo Harrison has no regrets about the
Luga Dante's trade, as he stated, I think once we win,
then that will change your mind.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
If you don't win, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's like tell Jay all the time when he was
with me all the time, j are you a good guy?
And he would say, yeah, I'm a good guy. Breaking news.
Jay's a good guy. What is he gonna say? No, Steve,
I'm a horrible guy.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
They were talking about, you know, the loss of revenue
since he left Jersey sales and the season ticket holder said.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I don't want to come back to Why who do
they even have anymore? K Oh yeah, yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And uh Kyrie when you know he's that's a bad
injury for him.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
He might not be back for a while. Yeah, that's it.
How can you defend that? Sorry? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Two way star Travis Hunter told CBS Sports that none
of the teams he has met with ahead of the
NFL Draft has made an issue of him playing both
offense and defense. However, if a team told him he
could not play both, he would stop playing.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay, how comes Shador is not going to be at
the draft? I don't know. He just doesn't want them.
I don't know, because.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Demon will be there. I'm gonna guess. No, is he
what well Travis Hunter player? I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
They say all these guys have been in, like tam
Max gonna be there and stuff like that from Arizona. No, no, Schdor,
He's gonna be like the top could be a Top
I pick, it could be a top twenty five pick.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
You're not sure sure.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Damian Lillard will miss the start of the NBA playoffs
due to a blood clot He's at Milwaukee. Still, Lillard,
who has been out since March eighteenth, has made significant
progress with the blood clot and it remains optimism that
for his clearance at some point in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Okay, if there, if they're hanging in there, right, who
are the favorites, the favorites.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
The Thunder and the Celtics. I believe in the Calves
are right there. Who's the number one in the East.
The Calves are record Boston to Yeah, Okay. The Dolphins
and defensive back Jalen Ramsey intend to part ways.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Okay, Sei Jalen, I'll get a big contract somewhere else.
Apparently he's had a couple of big deals I remember
with the Rams.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Especially Dallas Wings select Page Beckers with the number one
pick in the w NBA draft.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, good for them.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
We can start to start from the bottom right and
play and see what happens. Kingon Clark with with who
is she with Washington or Indiana?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Indiana?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, because they weren't doing really well with her and
then they caught fire made the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, and those games will get televised. There's there's already
a I think there's a game already scheduled for whatever
ESPN with them to two against each other because that
season starts here pretty soon.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I saw it. Only you knew that from the draft
last night. Yeah, that is it for today's breaking news. Okay,
give you one more.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Patrick Peterson Cardinals dB officially retired as a Cardinal today.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Are you a Cardinal guy? Only because you have to
watch them soon?

Speaker 4 (13:58):
In the years where they were like the only you
had to watch, I've never been a big fan. Yeah,
but individually some I mean, you know, Larry Fitzgerald was
fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's why I watch Who do you watch Zone?

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I do that too.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, I don't watch anybody because the names to me
don't mean anything anymore. It's like back in the day,
you fell in love with the team and they stayed
with the team.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Now it's like, oh, he's with them now?

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, you know, yeah, because he did bounce around the
last five years. It seems like he was going and going,
but he was.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
There's only been four cornerbacks in NFL history named a
seven straight pole Pro Bowls, and two of them are
in the Hall of Fame already, Champ Bailey and Willie
Brown and Patrick Peterson. Maybe's one of them and then
the other one. Jalen Ramsey. We just mentioned seven straight
Pro bowls. He's up there too, Okay, cool, cool cool.

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Hey, welcome back to the ball. Here a Fox Sports
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We're trying to reach out to have in a second,
so we'll see what happens if we call talk about
what's going on in the town of high school sports.
What else saw, Dave?

Speaker 11 (18:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (18:35):
This is Jackie Robinson day.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Oh, that's right, Baseball honoring him today and with the
number forty two on every jersey.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
So for you old guys, for you guys, did you
see him play?

Speaker 13 (18:44):
No?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
What do you see him playing? Not that old that
you that you were? No? No, but you're not a
Dodger too, right, I'm not a Dodger fan, but you
know I still love the stories.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, yeah, sootos who maybe just.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Talk about a night. It's the airs in a baseball tonight.
They're playing Grand Canyon the Lopes. Okay, so that's always
a good matchup. They're always good in baseball.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Lopes have to have their number pretty much. Basketball team
had our women's team baseball, they can't get through. But
now we're on the phone.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
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Speaker 3 (19:19):
Have you are? What's up? Hey, guys? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
We're doing okay, We're doing okay. Can you want to
be caught up with what's going on in the high
school world of sports? How much time? About two more
weeks with stuff going on?

Speaker 13 (19:32):
Yeah, there's about two more weeks in the high school
baseball and softball season. Also track is going on, you know,
So it's it's coming down to the to the very
end here, unbelievably because it's so like it wasn't too
long of the high school football season is going on,
and now here it is the end of the whole
the whole school year.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, it seems like the spring goes faster than the winter.
I don't know why, but it does. Because it's almost over.
School's almost over and about a month. So who are
the star teams to look out for as they approach
these playoffs?

Speaker 13 (20:06):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I also forgot toys. Volleyball's going on
right now too, But some of the some of the
best team. There's a lot of good as always, there's
a lot of good softball and baseball teams locally in Tucson.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
I mean Cell Point Baseball.

Speaker 13 (20:21):
Has only lost one game and that was this week
in a tournament that involves Catholic schools in Las Vegas.
They're there for four days. National teams that are going there.
I've talked to a few coaches. Actually, one of the coach,
one of their coaches teaches at Sunnyside with me and
he mentioned this is his Cell Points best team under

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Preble and Preble's coach in two thousand and nine, and
he led them to the twenty nineteen championship.

Speaker 14 (20:48):
And you know, Mason.

Speaker 13 (20:49):
White was on that team in twenty twenty one that
came up really short against the cdo at High Corbett.
But in the gentleman fever menta is been coaching there
for a while, and you think this is their best
overall team with pitching, defense, batting. I mean, it's just
they have no weakness overall and their whole you know,

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their whole rosters. So they're very good. They're seventeen one
and one the last time I saw they had one
tie against I think a des of you that got
late and they couldn't play because there was no lights.
It was I a tournament or something like that. They
couldn't play, They can't finish the game. But yeah, I
mean it's I think, uh just just their overall. I

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saw them play CDO a couple of weeks ago. They
beat him ten to zero in in uh in six innings.
And CDO historically has been very strong and they're strong again.
Their top ten team in the four A. So this
this is the year where.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Cell Points ranked number one in four A.

Speaker 13 (21:53):
So it's expected of them to win the championship. In
recent years, it's like they're one of the top five
six teams. But they're they're like right up there, they're there.
They should be considered a favorite to win the state championship.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Kay, you know what about some of the other sports.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Softball is always strong with you know, the CDO softball.

Speaker 13 (22:14):
I mean, CDO is the same thing. They're the same
thing in five A. They're they're they're in in games
that the AA recognizes they don't recognize in season tournaments
in their power ratings.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
So in their you know, their right.

Speaker 13 (22:29):
Their rankings are number one and they have an undefeated
record because they haven't lost any any games that are
in season. Amelia s. Druber, who's going to Oregon State
is you know, she's untouchable, and she had like an
array and there erer point six senior, you know, just
uh some strong leadership there. She pitched in the championship

(22:51):
game last year against Cell Point at hillm Brand got
kind of rock. They're you know, a couple of home
runs you give up. And I think this year she
has the mindset that she's gonna win it, uh win
that state championship. And they're they're very strong, and you know,
there's just there's a lot of good teams. Sorrta is good,

(23:12):
Micah Mountain, Uh, like I said, South Point also in
softball is very good, too soon and Sunnyside. Uh. You
can go down the list of a lot of schools
that have a chance come postseason to to make a
deep run. So it's gonna be fun here in the
next couple of weeks to follow all these teams. Baseball,

(23:33):
the five A they have like I think they have
sixteen Southern areas only have six teams in the top eleven,
leve By, Kelly and Foothills. Dwyer's their top player.

Speaker 14 (23:42):
I think he was.

Speaker 13 (23:43):
He was a former Arizona commit. He's one of their
top guys. So, yeah, it'll be it's gonna be interesting
if people like to go out to high school baseball
and softball games like our our buddy Vic, they'll they'll
have a lot, they'll have a great time.

Speaker 14 (23:58):
I see him everywhere every time. Every time I go
to a game.

Speaker 13 (24:00):
He's there. It's like he's he's like stocking me or
following me.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
He's in the same thing.

Speaker 14 (24:07):
He's the great guy.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Though, So to me, you've covered this a while now,
you and your brother. Is this an era of softball
baseball some of the best, even though you know Tucson
has been historically a pretty good u bed for for
both sports.

Speaker 14 (24:24):
Yeah, it's hard to say, because, like you said, every year.

Speaker 13 (24:26):
There's there's strong teams because of you know, we're in
Tucson and good weather and a lot of development here
since when they start out young. Because of that, there's
a lot of good.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Club teams and the Little League.

Speaker 13 (24:39):
You know, it's just as it as Isaiah Moraga, who's
the stand out senior pitcher for self when he was
on that Sunny Side Little League team that came one
ending away from making the Little League World Series in
twenty nineteen. I think he's he has some crazy stats,
like he's got forty four strikeouts and four walks, just

(25:01):
tremendous controls, got an area of about one point seven.
He's going to South Mountain with his dad. Ernest played
at His uncle is Omar Mora. I don't know if
you remember him. He played, was a high draft choice,
some good jeans there. So yeah, I mean there's I
mean that whole Cell Point going going back to Cell

(25:23):
Point there. Their roster has a lot of people that
you know, their their relatives were really successful and you
know in in past years like the Safer I don't
know if you remember the Safers that came out of Sabino.

Speaker 14 (25:39):
Jeff Safer.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Is he the son of the son, Yeah, he's Don.
Don was the grandfather, yea.

Speaker 14 (25:47):
Don was the grandfather. Played for John Wooden.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
Yeah, and Paul Safer now is the one.

Speaker 13 (25:53):
Who plays at Cell Point. He's the grandson. He's the
son of Jeff Safer, who was a really good put
player at Sabino when he played with the Thanks Organization
for a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Who and then his maybe his uncle because his uncle
was the GM here at iHeart met him.

Speaker 14 (26:09):
Yes, uh, I think Mike.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Lay right right, Okay, I'm just trying to picture who's
who here because I've never met the dad of the ballplayer.

Speaker 13 (26:18):
Then okay, yeah, Mike Safer was probably the most notable one.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (26:22):
He was a prey All American at Sabino, went on
to u c l A. Yeah, played for Jeff skur
In there at Sabino. And then John Safer was a
top five uh you know, he was drapped in the
fifth round by the Exposed in ninety three. He played
at Anti. He's a he's another uncle. Jeff Safer played
at Sabino. He played, was a really good quarterback and

(26:44):
baseball player, also played for Skirn. And now you know,
Paul is the grandson. He's a senior and he's one
of the top players. Also on that Selping team is
Anthony Milo Junior. He's the son of Tony Milo, former
Arizona baseball player, and Katie Swan who played softball in Arizona.
So a lot of good bloodlines there.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Remember she was a former k gun ka Gun intern
Katie Swan and she really she was quite a player.
Was second basement I think for Arizona and some those
great early Candrea with teams, who did you mention?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Who did you mention? It was a commit to Arizona
And he's no longer.

Speaker 13 (27:24):
Dwyer the one out of Kenyan Foothills.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, so what's he up to.

Speaker 13 (27:30):
He's just he's I don't think he's signed with anybody.
If I'm mistaken, he's you know, I I like him.
I think it's a it's a situation where Arizona hasn't overloaded.
He was a pitcher and he also played in the field,
but I think they have They kind of basically told
him that they have, uh, you know, surplus at where

(27:50):
he's at, and he's taken in stride and he you know,
and you never know what could happen in these days,
but you know, transfer Portal or were believing to go
pro if there might be if you another spot might
know for him. For him, I really don't know the
particulars of all that, but he's he's a top talent.
Kelley and Footal is one of the top teams in
the state in the five A.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Are there are there draft type players out there in baseball.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
In this in this group, are there people who are
gonna get picked?

Speaker 13 (28:19):
H That's that's the thing. It's it's a it's a good,
good talent, but not high draftable talent. You know, guys
who have maybe signed for like places like San Diego
or uh, you know, some some lower d one but
nothing like high you know, something not nothing like we've

(28:39):
seen in you know, recent years, like Thinking balla something
like that. It's it's it's not as.

Speaker 14 (28:46):
High as they're probably.

Speaker 13 (28:48):
May be some lower round draft or not drafted and
go to a lot of there's a lot of kids
who have signed to go to colleges, but I don't
see a lot of them going to pro route right away.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Do you, Oh, do you think the NIL could play
with baseball because it's one of those things when they
get to drafted or whatever, they get promised, you know
a few hundred thousand dollars to sign with them that
maybe instead of doing that, they decide to go to
Juve or other places. I'm not sure what the NIL
would be at the coll I think.

Speaker 13 (29:16):
It's just like any other sport where there's colleges that
have the money, they have a better chance of keeping them.
I don't know, if Arizona has that kind of money
like you would see in the SEC schools like else,
you to keep some of those guys from from signing.
So yeah, I don't, I don't, who knows. I mean,
the chances are though, for a partum like Arizona, they

(29:39):
won't get a guy who's a high draft pick to
stay with Arizona, whereas somebody you know the SEC might
be able to. But you know, you know, Chip Hale's
the way he's put together the staff though, in the
pitching has been impressive, you know, just overall, just the

(30:00):
way they've been able to go from one year where
they lose all their starters and then having they come
up this year and have another good performance. They're pitching staff.
That says a lot about about you know, him and
their pitching coach and just their operation.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Okay yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So you'll be busy here, going here and there to
watch these teams. Who's the who's the odds on favorites?
So South Point Baseball to win a title? Maybe CDO
Women's or Studio Girls Softball.

Speaker 14 (30:29):
Yeah, those are the two obvious ones.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
Uh, smaller school, Busbee. They won the state championship last year.

Speaker 13 (30:34):
They're they're undefeated this year. They had everybody back from
last year. That's smaller school from downtown South And But
and then, like I said earlier, any of these teams
that there's a lot of teams that are rank in
the top ten in baseball and softball and in all
classifications that have a chance. So it's going to be
quite interesting here coming up. We had head into the

(30:57):
end of this season, going into the postseason.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, okay, thanks a bunch for coming on.

Speaker 14 (31:02):
All right, thanks guys.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You well, however, Morales from All Sports toots on dot
com get the latest on the youth sports stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
But at that site, it's good site. Now, those guys
are amazing. Well you're part of that too. Yeah, I
do as little as possible.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, but the high school, no one's covering high school
sports except except your website.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
They've got a control over.

Speaker 11 (31:21):
Yah.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
In fact, I need to talk about about a few things.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Uh, maybe we can kind of maybe have a marriage
with a TV station that kind of they get stuff
from us and we give stuff from them and kind
of arrangement.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I don't know if the TV stations are doing much
high school. Yeah, no, but this would give them a chance.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
To Yeah, they could use your stuff, your stuff, Yeah, okay,
I mean if you were back, I mean, what's what's
the best?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Didn't we try to do that one time with the Citizen?
We did.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
We had some kind of working relationship with the newspaper,
which I liked. I don't know if there was enough
news people that enjoyed it. But then in sports, I remember,
I don't know if you were I think you were there.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was. I did something to get you on every
once in a while TV with my bs talking about stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
I think you guys used to have a camera set
up in your newsroom, didn't you at some point and
we would take that.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
That was kind of an interesting, right year, like.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Two thousand and you still doing it in two thousand
and eight, Yes, it was about two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yeah, yeah, I had to put make up.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
There because I mean, you guys were doing stuff that
we could never get to.

Speaker 15 (32:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
You'd have, you know, four or five reporters, and I
had one. Yeah. Well, when I was on the road, dude,
do it.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'd have to go to like an affiliate place ABC
station to kind of get behind the desk and say, well,
we're here at ore again and yeah, game tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's a big game.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
That was always hard even for us to do when
you know, we had relationships with those TV stations and
we would have a hard time getting material out of there.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right sometimes, right, Well, let's take a break, come back
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Speaker 5 (36:16):
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Speaker 2 (36:25):
Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball. You're on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Silver,
your Kobe, and I wouldn't have my eye on the
ball without you, guys. That's why you're going to come
in with some information on for me, Dave on this
new story.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, I mean credit to uh Justin Spears with Tucson
dot com. We're just looking over some of the stuff
that's been coming down this afternoon and they're talking about
the portal that reopens tomorrow. So the transfer portal of
the spring will run just basically for ten days until
April twenty fifth, while Cats are trying to recover after
losing twenty nine players in the earlier portal, which was

(37:02):
tied for the most in the entire country. Time for
a second, I'm sorry with Purdue second most twenty nine
players left.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm wondering of those twenty nine, and they would never
give you a straight answer, but of those twenty nine,
how many actually you said, Okay, no problem, take care.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
A few of them came back. Yeah, but you're right,
I'm sure, Okay, Okay, good luck.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
You see what you can do it without without really
saying that you're not good enough to here anyway, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
But so yeah, So they're they're looking for a lot
of a lot of spots. There's a lot of spots open.
There's you know, freshman classes coming in, there's a different
you know, key positions that they need to feel about
a kicker, you know, things like that they had a
great kicker Tyler Loop what they wrote about as well
today on Tucson dot com. Who's got a good chance
of you know, getting drafted. But there's a lot of
a lot of spots open.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So let me ask you, uh that said there's a
chance too that you know when there's going, there's coming,
exactly when there's coming, there's going. So did he say
anything about the possibility of losing.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
That's for sure.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I mean that's this is also a very popular time
for people to leave. So now we have this window
of just basically ten days. Sure, so I'm sure players
saw what was going on in spring football. What are
my chances? You know, this is the time where they're
going to make that evaluation.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Sure. Sure.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
And one of the reasons why they're not going to
have a game is because, well, there a talent gets shown.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Dubraska kind of started this where they're just going to
have an exhibition or whatever you're going to call it,
and not to have.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Anything on film.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
But guess what, players know who the coaches know who
these players are.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Yeah, I mean, you're right, a lot of schools decided
not to play games, or if they did, they were really,
you know, slightly slightly attended. There was a few that
had like five thousand fans.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Some of the bigger schools that you would think would get
big crowds didn't really even you know, put their players
out there. Because there is so much fluidity to their
to their rosters, and players are coming and going. They
probably don't want to go out there. And why should
I get hurt of I'm going to transfer next week?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Sure, No, no exactly, And Dave and I don't think
I'm speaking out of turn or being naive about this,
but I'm sure it happened here in basketball and poverty
for football. They've been in contact with the other schools already.
Oh yeah, you know, hey, the things don't go well,
or if you're not happy, we're here for you.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
You know what I'm saying, Just the fact that these
guys have agents, and it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
It's so strange when I read that stuff, I'm thinking, well,
we talked to their agent and then what Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
There was a guy that back in my development days
working for the U of A who I ran into
was in a lump up in the Bay Area who
he was an agent, Yeah, but he was very quiet
about it. He was an agent for professional players, not
so much. Sure we get some U of A guys.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Well because it wasn't available back then, right, But that
was his career. So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I haven't talked to him in a while, but I'm
wondering if he's kind of dipping his toes into the
college players.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Right, I'm gonna ask Meilbach, who's on the show every
now and again. I wanted him to come on today
because one of the questions was the Tennessee kid, and
it could be Arizona kid, could be UCLA kid, didn't matter.
The quarterback decided to, you know, leave and they said,
we're you know, you're not going to be the face
of our franchise and we don't need you to hold

(40:07):
us hostage. But that happens, I'm sure other places and
some and some another. What of our guests asked me
to ask about is he a former employee?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Is he does he colect unemployment right? Right?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
All that stuff, and what the legality of it when
he eventually becomes that it would become employees and you
kind of hold your your your business hostage, right, exactly
what does it all mean? And then I'll ask him
this because he used to be a sports agent, Matt
did uh and you know, being an attorney and all that.
I'm wondering how that, how that feels, because now it's
just different. Now you could be part of it. You know,

(40:43):
Jason Terry back in ninety nine got in trouble with
an agent, YadA, YadA. I'm sure There's been a couple
of others if I can remember correctly, but now it's
like everyday occurrence.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, you know he got his mama plane ticket or
something like that back.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Then and more, yeah, and more whatever, You're right. I mean,
that's totally different. It's it's a different world. It's not
the way it was twenty five years ago.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
No, in fact, it's almost we don't have very many
kids here in talking ex players one because of practice
time and all that stuff. But there might be a time.
And that was kind of warned if you were going
to come on the show, you need to pay us.
Really yeah, and Jay and I at the time said
that ain't happening. We're not You're not that important to

(41:25):
get a No one's asked No one's done that for us.
No one's asked us, Hey, if you're gonna be on,
I'm gonna pay. But if it came to that, we're
surviving okay without you.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know. I didn't think they
would be on a talk show. Really they wanted to
get paid.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
No, not specific to this, but they said eventually that
could happen, kind of like I paid their parents.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Okay, I can understand that.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I suppose if they if they've got some deal with
some store or sign autographs and things like that.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
That's usually how it's been working. I get.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
I guess they host these camps Fight Love Love Camp coming.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Well, No, it just happened. Oh did he did?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Because I wanted to get them on to show up Monday,
thinking it was gonna come up, But it happened on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Didn't happen in the summer.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
No, it's just happened now with the thirteenth. Oh, because
I'm trying to get him on.

Speaker 13 (42:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
But then know they told me they warren me a
year or so ago there could be a chance where
kids were not coming on the show because you're not
gonna pay them.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
This that ain't happen. I guess we got to start
talking to high school kids.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I got to take nil so I can pay the nil. Yeah,
and I'm sure that's the case too, because I guess
now nil kids high school kids are getting nil.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Good for them, unbelievable. Helped me with the electricity bill
at that call. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You gotta buy some
groceries to live here in our house. You're making more
money than us. Yeah. Yeah, that's just the way of
the world, and I'm proud of you. Yeah. Well, I
mean they're really making money and paying Yeah, if you
google it, you'll probably find it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
It's just can seem like if you're, you know, graduated
from high school and you're gonna go to a college
and then all of a sudden he get this big check. Yeah,
you know what's mom and dad gonna say, Grandma?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
The price of fame and the price of winning is
just gone to be bonkers.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
How important is it? I guess very well.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
The separation between the pros and college is really shrinking
if you think about it.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Well, I posted a question to who was it?

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh, Michael v Michael Love, and you didn't happen to
do this in your job much, if at all, be
the be the columnist on TV. But something some people do,
right suh? And you played it fair and square and
I did too as a reporter. But you know, at
some point these kids aren't going to be It's not
so much fair game, but they're gonna you're gonna have

(43:38):
to be critical of what they've done and actions they've had.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
They're not amateurs. Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Well, I mean that's kind of one of the excuses
we used to have, was why don't go after them.
They're just a bunch of kids and it's just the
amateur playing and this and that. But now you know,
maybe it has changed. They are earning, earning something. What
are you getting some texts?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, you did a text? I got to say this
one from one of our callers. What the guests collars
should be paid for their calls if it's a good show,
bailing their money's right?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Well call it out. Let's test this theory. Call us
down and make us You're in the Hall of Fame
of callers. Yes, well we had one.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
If that mic he called earlier on the break, he
can call back, give me my deal. Yeah, for the callers, Yeah,
the phone would off the hook.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
That call was worth what dinner it's sell and so restaurants. Yeah,
you just won one of our sponsors. Yeah, that's an idea.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Give him a give him a free dinner somewhere, any
sponsors who want to do that. Yeah, But we had
been in saything else on that story about the comings
and goings of potential people, because now it's like the
other think we know the potential people every no, no, no, no,
but but the potential of that happening. Is there anything
in there that he was quoted on? They say, yeah,

(44:54):
we're keeping an eye on everything.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, I mean I think he's just building that roster.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
If you lose you know, almost thirty players, you need
to replace them somehow, right if it's even if it's
just numbers to practice with and to keep everybody. You know,
there's gonna be injuries obviously in football, and you know
they're looking for players to fill those roles that disappeared.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see it.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Just it's so funny in talking to half and with
baseball and other sports. I'm sure, uh softball, basketball and football.
How Tucson and I love Tuson. You've been here forever too.
You probably had a chance to leave, so did I.
But Tucson has that small town, big time type of right,
and I wouldn't live in Phoenix's two damn monster town.
How it doesn't have the money historically to compete with

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the other schools. Yet you want to be one of
those other schools, you know, and you saw it, you
chase the money.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
How difficult it is to compete even just for the money.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah, not just not on the field I'm talking about
it's another This is another side action where if you don't.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Get the money and you compete, you're talking about nil
answer money. Yeah, I mean that's kind of what it's
going to come down to. I think if teams want
to do want to compete, they're going to have to
you know, pony up and find donors who are going
to help out with this. It's going to be interesting
to hear some of the words coming from athletics as
this money comes in, you know, on top of money
that they're raising already for athletics, and what part of

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that's going to be for NIL I don't I don't
understand that just yet. Yeah, but you know, at some
point we'll need to, you know, get somebody on the
record to say, Okay, they're going to get this much
money from the House, the House votes or whatever, and
then we still need to raise twenty five million more
just for the nil stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
In your time for working for the foundation, correct foundation,
and whatever else you were working for, did you run
into places where they said, no, Dave, because I'm going
to give into the athletic department. Oh yeah, so you
were already kind of losing out.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Well, it's both sides, right, Yeah, I've already given or
the number one excuse, husey was I'm paying my kids tuition,
so I'm giving back to view of a that way, right,
that was always a good one. They could always lean
on that for like four or five years, and then
after it was over, it's.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Like, well, you know you're done playing in tuition.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Sorry, sorry now, Yeah, I'm trying to collect that, buddy. No,
I'm sure that happened a lot. Were those like cold
calls or how No, they weren't. They were No, they
were lumps. I wasn't doing cold calls. There were a
lumps who had kids coming to live their life.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah. I mean.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
If you get that phone call from the U of
A usually that's called like annual giving.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
It's usually a small ask.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
You five hundred dollars or one hundred dollars or five thousand.
Those are considered like, you know, smaller gifts, So you
would get that, and that's what they would say. Sometimes
you could just give them a menu, Hey, would you
like to support the College of Science or a College
of Social and behavioral sciences?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Would they get anything in return? Depends on how much.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
I mean, if they're given in the millions, you know,
they're they're probably gonna what do you mean, like, what
do you think they're gonna get?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah, I wouldn't they access to the dean, maybe access
to somefessors, learn more, get behind the scenes things, meet
the students. A lot of donors really just want to
if they're going to give and create a scholarship, they
just kind of want to meet the students that are
going to use their money.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
That's always gratifying to people. That's cool, especially when you
have that much money. What do you do with it?

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Right?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Right?

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Yeah, that's usually you know, they would get upset if
they didn't hear from their students, and we'd have to
jump on this. Yeah, sure, you know, right, mister and
missus Smith at a nice letter thanking them, right, but yeah,
athletics again, same thing. You know, I'm buying my tickets,
that's my gift. Yeah, so I'm sure you know, if
you talk to us them, that's that's probably the number
one excuse they're getting.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
More power to them because now when you buy a ticket,
they have an extra side money that's going to the
nil right, right, the fifty dollars one hundred dollars particular.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Right And if they ever you know, I don't think
they're going to do it soon, but they were always
talking about doing something with this football stadium, expanding it
and changing it up. I mean, I don't know if
that plan is dead for now, but yeah, you know
that's going to be a huge expense.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Well it's it's amazing to me and maybe to you, Dave,
where they were this huge amount of money in debt,
right and it became public two years ago almost whatever
years ago, And how other schools didn't become public for
being in debt because I would venture to guess at
least fifty percent of the schools out there in debt
for the same reasons, right, COVID more money that you

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have to find for some kind of things buildings of
those facilities.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Well, I think one thing that Arizona was guilty of
sort of was giving away too much money in scholarships
to students. Hey, you know, you come to Arizona, we'll
give you, you know, thirty thousand dollars and.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
General general fund.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Okay, yes, I mean I think I don't know if
I'm speaking out of a turn, but maybe that was some
things that happened financially that you know in the old days,
like oh, yeah, you know, I'm going to go to
the place where I get the most money.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Sure you would hear that from high school.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Is.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah, and you talk about just general public, general public,
not athletics.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I mean athletics.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Is you know, they have some big ticket items which
they've you know, I don't know if they're going to
pay off big call facility, and you know they redid
Hill and brand you know, ten years ago, things like that.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, I don't know. It's a tough world.

Speaker 7 (50:08):
We live in.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Tough world. Yeah, I'm sure you're happy or not happy
to be out of that world. It's fun to be
talking about it. I don't worry about it. Once the story,
Once the show has done. I got to make a
call to the East coast. Yeah, yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Wish that we have good We gotta win them. Okay,
thanks Dave for coming in today. A good show. Good show.
We had John Perlman from FC Tucson. Their season is
going to start here pretty soon. Talked to have Morales
just to get an update on what's going on with
the team. It's a lot of good teams. Obviously a
lot of good teams.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
I mean every year there's some good high school players
and then you know the U of A and Pima
benefit off that. Yeah, you know they've been having some
great teams too. You're going to the baseball game tonight,
go watch some baseball arison a Grand Canyon. So that
should be fun. Haven't been to a baseball game yet?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
No year.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
No, they're pretty good. I like these midweek games.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Six o'clock could be home by you know, seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Nice to be retired, you bet. You guys like me
to call you? Can you come on? Can you come over?
Can you want to go baseball game?

Speaker 13 (51:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Cool? And thank you Kobe for coming in today.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I'll see you Thursday, right yep, And I'll see everybody tomorrow.
I think we're gonna have Blake Eager tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Thanks