Tuesday, August 6, Hour 2

GUEST: Brett Fera, Sports Editor, Arizona Daily Star

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Streaming live on the iHeartRadio Whip. This is I on
the Ball with Steve Ravera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, welcome back to my I on the Ball hero,
Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we
have Ryan with breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
This is On the Ball Breaking News on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, we're gonna start with a little bit of
news from University of Arizona football ja Corey cross Merritt
was named to the dok Walker Award watch list today.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah, that's the running back on in New Mexico. So,
you know, Steve, I mean, look at this team, right,
they've met guys on all the awards lists. When has
that ever been?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, No, you're right right, and people who have NFL potential.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Right, even though the really good teams that they had,
you know, the ten win teams that they've had in
the past, they had defensive players on those lists, but
never a bunch of offensive guys like like Arizona's got. Now.
I know we had, know we went through the Club
Tate thing, but think back, you know, they just haven't
haven't haven't never had this kind of attention and recognition,

(01:13):
right know, they haven't. They have to be good, don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, but Jay, this is goes back to your picking teams.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
They have to be.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Good, but other teams are good too, I know that.
So that's kind of like they're going into a league
that's gonna be a lot like that. Yeah, you know,
Pac twelve they had better teams. We know this, We
talk about this all time. They were sixth, seventh, eighth,
right seventh day. Arizona's now three four five maybe two
three four five. That's what makes it so special because

(01:41):
they have a chance. They have a chance. I mean,
what was the lessaid they had a chance?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, well that's the thing. And I you know, I
was at my breakfast club this morning and then I
manch I some you know, this doctor who had never
met before, and everybody's asking me that how good is
Arizona going to be? And I'm like, I think they're
going to be good. But as you say, there's probably
you know, in the Big twelve, there's probably eight teams

(02:06):
that are sort of in the same you know range
that Arizona is.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
We're we're here in Tuson. This show is here in Tucson, Arizona.
You get a show like this every place in their
in their spot, and they're talking about the same stuff.
How good are how good are they right?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
State of saying it? Kansas? Kansas state? And how many
Texas Tech Arizona that's a way. Yeah, they got beat
seventy to seven a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
They saw right, right, and that's kind of maybe what
the reputations do. Yeah, how good can they be?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Somebody asks me if I can do something about the
seventy to seven billboard? Is it still up?

Speaker 5 (02:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't think sits down. No, I think it's got
to be down.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Who do they lose to?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
You don't know that. No, you ain't see you dude.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Oh god, where you been?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Where you been?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Worn rock? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yes, so you didn't do the work too hard?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
A big rock? Okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Speaking of former Arizona running backs, former Arizona running back
Gery Brightwell signs with the Jaguars today.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Oh he did sign he did. Oh, good for him,
because I saw that there that there was discussion he
might be signing with the with the Jags. But good,
glad he glad he's still hanging around. He was one
of the good guys. He actually came into a studio
for his show if you remember.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, he's not not too bad. I guess going on
to the numbers, this is what.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
This would be his third year maybe I think so
year in the league. If he stays, that's hanging around
a little bit, especially if you're running back, and what
are running backs app five to seven years he launch
speaking of because somebody I was listening. I was listening
to this conversation on the on the radio today that
Harrison Butler the the kicker, the loser kicker for Kansas City.

(03:47):
He got a seventy million dollar contract. He's no, no,
it's no. I take back some but it is talking
about the Butler signing. But Jason Tucker, the Ravens kicker.
He's gonna make as much money as Derrick Henry. I mean,
think about who Dereck Henry is the running back.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
You say Jason, huh, you say Jason Justin? Oh, Jeff
said Jason Justin Tucker.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I might have said Jason, but it is Justin Tucker
that he's a kicker. It's gonna make as much money
as a guy who was at one point the best
running back in the league. Is that crazy?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, well that kind of tasured the value of the
running back exactly if your name is not McCaffrey. And
is that a transition for you? No, No, didn't you say?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Go ahead say that's your transition.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So McCaffrey, he's gonna probably miss the preseason with a
cap string.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
And I would venture to guess he's got to be
one of the top five players in the league.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
He depends on whether or not. Where where you rank
all the quarterbacks? Right right?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I mean, but he's I mean San Francisco is really
good because they have him, because they have a running
back who can catch up on do all those things
that there's only a couple of those around the league,
right as as well as he does it. But he
you know, he's had some injury issues over the years.
I mean, I you know, I had him on my
on my fantasy team one year that he missed like

(05:09):
half the season.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I'm shocked.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm shocked.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
They should put it in a stipulation, Jay rule.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Do not draft. They're they're watching it like, Okay, which
players are he getting?

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Okay that I know. My sister gets pissed when I
take any forty nine er.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's tell me who that's so.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't know, Elaine, Elaine, I don't know what to
do with him. You've had him longer than I have,
So I'm sorry for you.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Okay, Well, speaking of the Niners, I guess the stove
would be I guess a good way to put this
heating up, uh for Brandon Ayuk right today, I was
listening to show earlier that Patriots Browns their teams that
are now invol I guess they've been involved with. They

(06:01):
are names that are going to top the list now
for Brandon Nyuk. But they're saying that maybe he'll stay
with with the forty nine ers after all and then
maybe test free agency next year.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
It presents an interesting question because what it is that
the forty nine ers don't have the money because to
pay him what he wants to get paid, because they're
about to have to give a brock Pride a fifty
million dollar contract, right, so they don't have the money.
You know, they don't have the money that he wants.
And it's that simple. So he says he wants to
be traded. But the question is do you want to

(06:35):
go make the money he's gonna if he were signs
with the Niners, He's gonna make millions of dollars right
whatever they give him, but he wants to make many
more millions of dollars. Do you force them to trade
you so you can go make that many more millions
of dollars to play for a team that sucks the
Browns or the Patriots who aren't very good right now?

(06:55):
Or do you stay with the forty nine ers maybe
when they have a chance to win a championship, play
on a really good team. Maybe you're what the third
receiver you know on their team and then get your
money later. What's what do you do?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'm curious and maybe somebody would tell me, and maybe
it happened a long time ago, and just a question
when did it become vogue for players like that to
get into the league, get drafted and all that stuff.
Whatever you need me to do, mister Gonzalz, I'm going
to do for you. Work my ass out. Do you
won't disappoint me. I won't disappoint you. And there comes
a point where now give you owe me, yeah, give

(07:34):
me mind? Yeah, what point did that happen because it's
the players controlling the league. I want to make this, Well,
we don't have the money.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, we can't.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
We can't do it. Well, I want to go somewhere else.
What I was good to you for five ten years?
Now you want to leave because you want to make
a few more dollars. When did that happen?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think A long time.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, a long time ago. What was the free agent
the guy what's a free agent?

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Gume?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, no, no, he was the original guy. Who's the
baseball yeah? Or football or baseball?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oh no, no, no, no, not Lou Brock.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
That guy.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
That guy, the guy he was like, he was a
base stealing kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
The Kurt Flood, Kurt Flood with all this stuff. And
I get it. I get it. If you're going to
give me more money somewhere else, I'll go. But I, well,
I should be able to appreciate where I'm at too.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, that's you, and I think, right, I mean, if
I can make five million dollars on the winner or
ten million dollars and just suck just to the points
where you might get killed on the field, I'm taking
the fine.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, look at Antonio Brown is Antonio Brown. How good
did he have it? And then all of a sudden
he pooped himself because he wanted more. Yeah, honestly, and
how many guys have done And another reason, Jade, that's
why I'm not a big sports fan. And I know
there's very few there's there's there's more not like that
than like that. But that's when you leave the last
n impression.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, and there are a lot of people who get
tired of seeing that. They still watch the game right, right,
but they're tired of that because we grew up at
a time where you played being a Major League Baseball
player or being an NFL player or being an NBA
player was the end all and it meant something. Yeah,
and whatever came with that was good enough.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
No, I hear you, that's not it anymore, Steve where
the dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And it's well, and it's it's three or four years
because I'm happy to be here, Jay, I'm want to
work my butt off for you, blah blah blah, and
when it comes comes time three four years, I don't
really care anymore.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
But which gets back to the point. See, why are
quarterbacks making fifty million dollars getting fifty million dollar contracts.
I don't get that.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't mean too.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Let's majority of one later, kids don't listen to us.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
I listened. I'm not a kid, but that a kid.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
You're a wiser kid, exactly.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm an old kid. You are, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Let's majority of the Olympics news. Out of the US
men's Kevin Durant, He's now passed Lisa Leslie total points.
He's now has four hundred and eighty nine, coming the
all time leading Olympic point score. He's only eleven way
for five hundred. Can you reach that? Well, he get
even more than five hundred. They got a couple more.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Shit, They've got probably two more games to play, and
this is probably his last Olympics. He has been he
has been unbelievable. He's been unbelievable in the in the Olympics.
I mean from that first game where he just couldn't miss,
to you know, to now, so okay, you know, give
it up for him for doing what he's what he's

(10:29):
done in the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
A little bit of sad news out of MLB. Billy
Bean died today.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Sixty.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Not that Billy Bean, though, sixty. Who's Billy Bean, not
not the moneyball Billy being another Billy Bean.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
He was that only a year long flight ofmia.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
So what Billy Bean is a different Billy being. I
don't know, but somebody's been around. I saw that. I thought, oh, no, moneyball.
And then the first response to the Twitter post that
I saw it said not moneyball Billy Be. So this
is a different but still not okay. It's not okay,
and it's still sad, but it's not the moneyball Billy
being that we saw. It's a different one. And I

(11:10):
do recall it. I recall their being yea and there
it was confusing, okay around at the same time, I think.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
He was drafted like in eighty six by the Giants,
played for the Dodgers for a year.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
But yeah, yeah, news.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I guess there's some other sad news. If you're a
White Sox fan and they continue to coue to lose
and they're not if the twenty one losses in a row, how.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Bad do you have to be?

Speaker 4 (11:35):
That the historically bad? I think, you know, it's like whatever, Yeah, well,
well they you know, they they you know, they let
all out of their players go. You know, they traded
amount and stuff like that. But they're historically bad. This
is the they're tied for the second worst losing streak
ever in Major League Baseball. I think the worst. They're
only three two games away from that to twenty three

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is the record.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Twenty three by the sixty one Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Field was a fulfilling. Even the sixty sixty two Mets
were considered widely considered the worst team in the history
of baseball, didn't have a losing streak like that, So
that's crazy. They're so bad.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
I think I think they'll beat that record on wouldn't you.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
How many people are out there putting money on them
every day? Oh, just think they're going to break their record.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
There's your thing because we talk about tom Oh they're due.
There's no such thing as they're due. They're just bad.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Or what if you started betting on their opponent twenty
one games ago? How much money have you won, especially
if you let it roll over each time.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Who's crazy enough to do that? Not me.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let's stick with baseball. Let's go back to University of Arizona.
A couple of former Wildcats, Jackson Can't left handed pitcher
and right hander Clark Candiatti. They were assigned to their
respective rookie league teams yesterday.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, I can't.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Will start his pro career at National's Florida Complex League,
see Candyaty will begin here at San Diego Padres Arizona
Complex League.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, let's just start. And who's the other kid?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Who's the other kid?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
There's two kids, ken Yatti And there was a guy
from who he was here and then he went to
Oregon State or kill.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and then now he is up
his name yeah okay, yeah, community college right started there?

Speaker 6 (13:25):
That?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, did you talk to your doctor about our problem?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Jayden talked to you about her memories. You forgot that
he's perfect. I forgot. I can't here to ask you
Christian Africa, I forgot.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
That's all I got for today.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Okay, that one. Got one more. Cal Stevenson late in
Arizona twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, was named the International League
July Player of the Month. So there's that sort of
you know, one of those things that comes across it
probably more confusing to us than anything, but the Division,
the Division one board of Directors put out a proposal

(14:12):
to distribute women's basketball Championship money similar to what they
do for the men's basketball Championship, where the longer your
team stays in the tournament, the more money you get.
They're going to start out with in the twenty twenty
five twenty six fiscal year, which is next season, start

(14:34):
out with fifteen million dollars, increasing to twenty then twenty five.
Then after that they'll increase it by a certain percentage,
say two point nine percent each year, so that schools
look the tournament started. Maybe, I guess is a sign
that the women's basketball tournament starting to make some money
that we do contract you can again one more thing

(14:56):
that you can probably thank Caitlin Clark for. And so
they're going to be distributing money similar to the way
they do for the men's basketball tournament. Yeah, that's been
rolled out today.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, let's go with that. We'll take a break and
get ahold of Brett Right.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yep, Brett Fair will be joining us a sports center
at theaters a daily start. We'll ask them how the
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Speaker 2 (19:09):
Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Riverta. He's jaging sauce now on
the phone him but Fay, sports editor at the Arizona
doing the Star Brett.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Howay, I'm good, guys. How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
We're doing? Thanks for taking some time for us. We're
your busy schedule. We joke kind of and not joke
about the schedule. How busy are you?

Speaker 6 (19:30):
It's pretty nuts, but it's in a good way, you know,
the I don't want to jump on a question before
you get to ask it, but you know, this, this
Big Twelve evolution for Arizona has been did a lot
this summer, but in a fun way, getting to learn
a lot about the other fifteen. I know three of
them are pretty well known to Arizona, but the other
fifteen Big twelve cities outside of Tucson learning fun things

(19:52):
like Other than Tempe, the closest geographical rival to Tucson
is Lubbock, Texas. That's a far cry from Los Angele
in the past years. I mean, I was been thinking
it was going to be Salt Lake City or Provo
and nope, loub it. And so that just shows the
expanse of how this goes. And then you know, diving
into things like Arizona's playing in the space game at UCF.

(20:14):
They're just they're right off the coast, being in Orlando,
right off the coast of what they call the Space
Coast by Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, and they
take it very seriously there and Tucson being one of
the astronomy capitals of the world. That's going to be
kind of a fun event out in Orlando. So there's
just a lot of cool stuff going on that we've
been able to sort of dive into this summer and
learn a little bit about and some fun quirky things too.

(20:37):
That has been great, But it's kept me busy, that's
for sure, in our whole staff.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
So as I hear you talk, and I was just
gonna ask both of you guys, because it just came
to me, do you feel that they're going to the
Big twelve Now? It's more of a more of a
football league. You know, they're going to LA to play
UCLA or or Washington State. You know what I'm saying,
It's more football.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
Kay, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yes? Yeah, Look, I mean again, no half empty stadiums,
right is what we're going to see.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Well, there's a couple things, you know. The Rose Bowl.
I've said this for a long time. The Rose Bowl
is the greatest setting in college football and it's the
worst regular season stadium in college football because of seventy
eighty thousand seats. I don't even if I remember it was
ninety five thousand but it's less than that the difference
in the Big Twelve. I think BYU is the largest
Big twelve stadium at like sixty seven thousand right of
the sixteen Big twelve schools. So it's kind of an

(21:28):
interesting dynamic where you're going to see. We have this
thing going on right now in print and it's sort
of kicking off this week digitally on Tucson dot Com
called Big twelve Blitz, where we're doing multiple pages of
content on every Big twelve school city, fan based mascots, colors,
all the different things that go into it, and diving
into our photo archives for the last time Arizona sports,

(21:50):
not just football and basketball, but all sports have played
these schools, and Baylor's won. We spent a lot of
time on this week, and you know, talk about a
cool situation. A brand new football facility. I know Arizona's
not going to be the year, but a brand new
football was a stadium that's well ten years old, a
brand new basketball arena that opened, you know, five months ago,
eight months ago. I bring that up because their new
football stadium is forty five thousand, the basketball arena is

(22:11):
seventy five hundred. You know, so the idea of a
packed house is meant to be intimate in the Big Twelve,
I think, compared to what we've seen in the past.
And to answer your original question, Eve about football versus basketball,
Baylor's a good example. I mean, Arizona fans like to think,
you know, high and mighty, and rightfully so about men's
and women's basketball. Baylor's got a national championship in both

(22:32):
in the last five years, so there is more than
just football in this conference. I think that Arizona fans
can aspire for their teams to live up to and
I think that's going to be kind of a neat
part of it, despite what I will always feel like
we're losing with losing the pack ball.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
But I'm not sure how often you listen to the show.
But good perspective is not allowed on the show.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Well, I'm not gonna lie. I'm very sad about the
demise of the pass. Well, so I think the travel
is easy, but I think it's I think it's a
few years of interesting, you know, fun ways of seeing
new parts, even us on TV. The odds of me
traveling to a lot of these places my staff guests,
but me traveling is pretty slim, but but getting to

(23:12):
see see new stadiums, new new locales, and you know,
it's funny. We've been doing a lot of interviews with
local media, some former players of Big twelve schools for
this series and and this is this is football in
the South. My friend like, it's it's interesting hearing them
talk because as soon as we bring up you know, hey,
let's talk about softball, let's talk about baseball, they're like, well,

(23:32):
let's talk about football more. Yeah, you know, so it's
it's definitely to to Jay's point, it's it's it's football
at football football and then everything.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Else, Well, it's gonna be and and I think that,
you know, I mean, fans here are going to have
to understand and get used to the fact that, you know,
they take it serious over there. You know, there aren't
going to be any you know, lazy games, either in
basketball or football or any other sports where they're just
kind of like people show up and you know, and
you play and it's not loud or whatever. Every game

(24:01):
is going to is a big deal in every one
of those cities because you know, we've made the point
the number of times that these are all college towns, right, uh,
you know what. Uh, you know, the PAC twelve was
all big cities, with the exception of you know, Washington State,
Oregon State. Uh, you know, they're there. Even Tucson was like,

(24:23):
you know, not it's not Phoenix. Two. Son's not Phoenix.
Two Son's not La two sounds not you know, San Francis.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
On the thirty fifth largest city in the country. People
forget that. Yeah, Tucson's not tiny.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yeah, you know right, So this stuff is a big
deal to those fans and get you know, Arizona fans
who go to those places better get ready for all that.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
What I'm excited about, again, not trying to have too
positive a perspective, but is there is some existing history
with some of these schools that I think is kind
of neat. There's obviously an opportunity for a budding rivalry
with BYU for a ton of reasons for both a
SU and you of a the religious component in terms
of Arizona and the LDS faction in the state of Arizona. Notwithstanding,

(25:05):
there's a lot of opportunity there. I think Utah has
always kind of been a good growth opportunity from a
rivalry standpoint, and so coming with Arizona obviously ASU. I mean,
I'm not even saying that, but you know another one
we just did in the series recently, TCU. Kind of
fascinating it. It didn't dawn on me until I looked
at it that, you know, TCU. The last time Arizona

(25:26):
played PCU in football was September of two thousand and three.
Do you guys remember that game?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, John macavit got fired right after.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
John sixth last game they won, third they were ranked.
Came into Tucson after Arizona had lost like three hundred
to ten to LSU, Oregon and Purdue the three weeks prior.
Came into Tucson and barely squeaked out a thirteen to
ten overtime win that Arizona was winning with two minutes
to go in the fourth and he would have been
gone anyway, but it might have prolonged him for a
few more weeks. Yeah, and then even before that. The

(25:56):
time before that was in ninety nine, the week after
Arizona got by Penn State, when as the number four
team in the country, they go into to Fort Worth
and need a touchdown, a thirty yard touchdown from Keith
Smith to Dennis Thurths Cutt with two minutes to go
to win that one, to stave off being oh and two.
So there's there's a lot of weird history that exist

(26:16):
amongst some of these schools. It's just it's just not
in the last five years necessarily. Do you remember, I
think that part is kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
Do you remember who was on that TCU team.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Which won the ninety nineteen Yeah, Ladanian Thomlinson.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Danian Tomlinson was on that team. And it's like he
was really he was really good. He was really good.
And I haven't seen have you guys done Texas Tech yet?
I haven't noticed.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
We just did the interview for that yesterday and that
was the trip too, because even talking about, you know,
Texas Tech putting up seven figures to take to get
the best softball player in the country, when we know
Arizona softball has been pretty good the last few years,
even in the year they missed the tournament. The one
thing they've been missing is a dominant starting pitcher, obviously,
And and to see the best pitcher in the country

(27:00):
end up at Texas Tech, a team they'll play quite
a few times in the next couple of years, it
just shows how how interesting. It's going to be across
all sports.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Yeah, well, I brought that up because Arizona, when Arizona
was in the whack, Texas Tech was the big non
conference game that they would play. It's like, oh man,
we're playing Texas Tech. Was kind of like Texas Tech was,
you know, Alabama to to to Jay.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Don't act like you're dad old you don't remember when
they were.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
In the whack one hundred percent, dude, Dude, I one hundred.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
He doesn't remember yesterday, but he does remember that.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I look up, look up the game. I think it
was seventy five, maybe seventy four to seventy five, seventy
Jim in the Jim Young years. Arizona was down twenty
eight to three at halftime and came back and won
the game. Look that one up big rally in the
second half. But that that was like to me, that

(27:55):
still stands as one of the greatest games ever at
Arizona Stadium because it was Texas Tech. Arizona was getting
its butt beat and they came back and and won.
I think they won thirty twenty eight or something like that.
Is that the score?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
That's it?

Speaker 5 (28:10):
There?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
You go at home at home yeah, it was here.
It was here and Texas Tech. It's funny at that time,
Brett Texas Tech and San Diego State where Arizona's huge
non conference rivals that they never be.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So who's the first guy you think? Okay, Texas Tech,
who's the first guy you think of?

Speaker 4 (28:27):
I have mine?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Me.

Speaker 6 (28:30):
I mean, I know it's recency biased. I'm gonna say Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't. I think of Mike Leech
and I think Billy Joe Tulliver. Okay, well, I think I.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Would think Mike Leach's number two. Yeah, I mean that
whole string of quarterbacks from Kingsbury to all the way through.
You know, obviously to Mahomes that that that whole air
raid offense that they just were turning out dunk dink
and dug passers was was something.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
But but that the history behind that Texas Tech game again,
back to those days, it was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Oh yeah, basketball because back in the day when I
was doing some of the books, they had to take
the train to get to level. It was very difficult,
very cold.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
So if the last time Texas Tech has been to
Tucson for basketball was that Bobby Night No. Five would
go into sixteen and Michale in the tournament. I don't
know if you played.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
The Arizona Arizona.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
I think in Zaga and Utah they played I'm not mistaken, but.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
They played Texas Tech in the Festival Classic Festible Classic
tournament in the eighty six eighty seven season because I
covered that, and uh and you know, you know Arizona,
I think they only ever lost one game in that tournament.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
They did, only lost one and they also played them
in the utip U tip in some tournaments out there.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, but that was but yeah, it's been it's been
a while.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
So the other the other thing, if if we got
a second I hope. I'm not much the other thing
that's kind of about the big twelve schools, and I
don't know if it's neither if it's just interesting to me,
but seeing the disparity between and this has been talked about,
and I'm not suggesting Arizona ASU should cut sports, but
ASU with twenty seven in Arizona with twenty two. For
the most part, ASU buy and large, but Arizona slightly

(30:17):
above a couple of others, but both have more sports
than any other schools. In the Big twelve. The closest
I think are TCU and BYU have twenty one and
then the rest are all in the teams. And I
think that's gonna be an interesting thing too over the
first couple of years to see how this shapes out.
But seeing some of these sports at other schools. TCU
is the defending rifle champion in SCA sports, the only

(30:37):
school to have an all women's team. It's a co
ed sport, but they filed an all women's team and
they've won it four times in the last fourteen years
and they're still the only school with an all women's
team to win it. And so there's some fun stuff
like that that I think it's kind of neat seeing
what sports exist in these that aren't in Tucson for sure.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, no, it look it's going to be fun, and
it starts with football, so much other other stuff too.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
For a lot of fun, a lot of work for
you guys, a lot of fun for you guys. I'm
sure you've met and talked to uh Desiree. Do you
do you honestly think that uh? Oh no, your opinion
on on her not cutting any sports.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
I mean, I think it's I think it's her opinion
and her truth right now. But I think they're gonna
have to continue to monitor it over time, you know.
I mean, there's you know, I have ideas. I'm not
gonna throw them out here on the radio because I
think it would cause uproar if the if, if if
anyone is listening to me ramble on about these things.
But there's there's some ways they could make that work.

(31:39):
But it's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt anyone who's participated
in the past, currently participating, or has an affinity for
some of these. But they have to continue to look
at it. I like I said, I don't I don't
think she's lying. I mean, I think that's the plan
for the time being. But unless they can figure out
years on a sports property situation and stuff like that,
they're gonna have to keep addressing it. And if but
if they can figure that out and figure out to

(32:00):
bring in more revenue than they were making through lear
Field and other avenues, than then maybe it allows them
to keep that and it makes Arizona more of a
destination than it already has them. But I don't, I don't,
you know, I believe her but I believe, I believe
it's also fluid. If that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
It does make sense because you think about you, you know,
you brought up the you brought up a million dollar
you know, softball pitcher Texas Tech. Where's that money coming from? Right?
And and how sustainable is it to you know, to
get that kind of money coming in to give to
give to the athletes who are going to be getting paid,
you know, through revenue sharing anyways. But there's gotta be more,

(32:35):
you know, there's got to be places that they're gonna
they're gonna get some money, and then how do they
dole it out? I I don't understand how that's all
gonna work.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Yeah, I don't either. I mean Texas Tech. The interesting
case that we had heard through this was that it's
one of the people that's sort of the large, hefty
donor for a lot of their stuff and in their
anil system. His his wife actually was a softball player
at Texas Tech. So when this became a thing, they
both jumped on the possibility, knowing that one one million
dollar investment could actually be get a great season, which

(33:06):
then creates a bigger day to day recruiting pipeline. Outside
of nil, and so I think they're they're trying to,
you know, not hit a hole in one, but they're
trying to go for the green in two, if that
makes sense. You know, much more logical opportunity to to
burdye to to mix sports metaphors. But so, I you know,
they're in a similar boat to Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Two.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
There's a top five women's basketball player, PJ Brown and
I were on the call with them yesterday and PJ
was talking about it, and there's a top five women's
basketball recruit who's from Lobbock. So they're trying to figure
out how to keep her there rather than have her
go off to one of the bigger programs in the
country to try and build that up too. And when
you only have sixteen seventeen sports compared to twenty two
or twenty seven, your investment of resources, time, personnel, everything

(33:49):
becomes significantly easier.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, we were talking Brett earlier about the how people
get their in their news right and newspapers. We've both
been in the business, you know, jail it's tough. So
by these things that you're doing, just being different, I'm
sure helps it does.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, part of it is like, I appreciate you
saying that. I mean, part of it is that, like
with this series we're doing again, it's called Big twelve,
but it's been primarily in print so far. But that's
by design. You know, our print readers, I'm not going
to sugarcoat it. They spend a good chunk of money
to get that print newspaper. We sometimes need to give
them a little bit of an advance on certain things,
and it'll all run before football starts, so it's not

(34:27):
going to be late by any stretch. But but yeah,
having different mediums to put this stuff out there is
definitely part of it. You know, we're rebuilding our mobile
app right now and one of the interesting things in
YouTube are at the forefront of this. You know, you
guys and some of the other you know specifically radio
shows in town are at the forefront of this, justin
obviously from our staff who's on one of the other
stations in the same boat. People like to connect with

(34:49):
people like they know them, and we've surveyed our audience
and they've told us this too, that they want to
feel like they know Michael lev and Bruce Pasco of PJ.
Brown and Justin Spears and so part of our development
of our mobile app that we hope people download and
participate in is you're going to be able to create
a feed by author, not just by sport. You know,
if you like everything that Bruce has to say or

(35:09):
that PJ has to say, you can just read what
PJ has to say. And I think that's a big
deal that we start acknowledging the that the individual connection
is a big deal. It's not just a publication or
a name on the top of the paper. The bylines matter,
and who the resources are and the intelligent cakes and
positions that they're able to put into it. From a

(35:30):
reporting standpoint, I don't just mean opinionated takes, but I
think all matters to what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Totally agree.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Very cool, Yeah, No, that's what I mean. That's what
we're talking about Earlier. It's like we're starting to follow
writers and media people and getting our news that way,
as opposed to I read everything in the New York Times,
I read everything in the Washington Post or in the
areson the Daily Star. It's like, Okay, we follow Justin,
we follow Michael, we follow you know, Bruce, we follow PJ,

(35:57):
we follow you know, national writers and we write what
they we read what they write.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, obviously I still want
people to see the Star and twoson dot com as
a primary resource. But I'm also the first person to
say too. And I mean, this was no ego that
we're not going to be able to cover the city alone.
And we've talked about this before, and we've talked about
other outlets. I give all Sports two so on a
lot of credit. I give pH and X a lot

(36:24):
of credit. I mean there's I give what you guys
do from a this particular medium a ton of credit
that I think. It's a collective ecosystem where we were
all more alike than we are different in terms of
trying to serve an audience that just wants to eat
more and more and more and wants us to refill
their plate. It's the sweet tomatoes version of sports where
they just want to go back to the buffet twenty
seven more times, and we got to make sure there's enough,

(36:46):
you know, mac and cheese and blueberry muffins out there, right.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Well, Jennie sol some weight, so no seconds.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
I got to stay away from bad I do I do.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
By the way, thanks a bunch as always read.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Thank you guys, appreciate you having me.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, take care of I will do it again, Thank
you very much.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
All right. I like the analogy though, the you know,
you go back and you meet people. You know what
I've taken. We can need to get an app. We
need to get an app. Yeah, buying the ball, that'd
be kind of cool. We can, you know, people can
find us easier. I missed first cafeteria, so we talked
about that too. I used to get the halibit just
for the hellib it.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Yeah, bag, yeah, yeh. I love the hell every time. Okay,
all right, let's take a break, our last break. We're
gonna come back. We're going to take your cost five
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Speaker 1 (40:05):
Steve and Jacin Salaz they have their eye on the
ball on Tucson Sports Stage Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Hey, welcome back to Ryan the ball Hero Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
We got Ryan with us for thirteen more minutes. If
you guys want to call, please do five too. Oho
four one six seventy four forty. You know, I got
a lot of got some feedback from the Mount Rushmore
streth that we talked about. They threw out a guy
that I thought we talked about him that Jason Terry
had that much of an impacted you know, Bibby Okay, Miles, okay,

(40:44):
but Jason Terry was crucial in that game in that
year or two, right, and then he had a fantastic senior.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Year in your year.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah. I didn't want to. I couldn't argue with him
because he's right. But I still think Bibby had that impact,
you know.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Right, he's in he's a second level guy, right, yeah,
right after then I don't put him on Mount Rushmore,
but I put him in the players to be named
later or whatever you want to call it, you know,
the next tier of guys. That's right, Yeah, I mean
he belongs there. He was a National Player of the
Year and Sports Illustrated. He's up in the Ring of
honor and deserves to be up there. I know he

(41:17):
had the little thing with the with the n C
double A. But you know, when you talk about a
player and the type of player he was, yeah, you
know he's in the conversation. I don't think he passes
Mike Bibbie. I don't think he passes Steve Kerr, and
then I and I and I and I don't think
he passes David Start Shawn Elliott. Yeah, so I think
but again, if somebody wants to put him on there, Okay,

(41:39):
which of those four guys you're taking off?

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, And I'm going to debate you on all of
those those four guys. To me, they're obvious, right, I
really think they're obvious. I really think that there shouldn't
be a debate on those four guys.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
In fact, I think that if you wanted to know that,
you talk more about it. And I have done the
list of thousand times. Uh, there's Sean, there's Damon, Jason Terry,
and I said, maybe there's not even a close third.
Jason Terry might be my third guy. The best players,
yeah yeah, best players.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Best players when I'm talking about Mount Rushmore. Yeah, in
terms of talent be yeah players yeah yeah yeah. And
he might be two. But Damon, Damon has a special thing.
Jamon was good. He's four from five to ten. You
could do a whole lot of his leadership ability and
all that stuff. You know, that team, that team was
that team, the ninety four team because of him.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I know you have a question to ask me, but
who's the best player? And this is no right answer,
Who's the best player in Sean's time? Who would you take?

Speaker 4 (42:41):
I know that in terms of just talent or just
who Mount Rushmore type player?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Who you taking? Who is the best player in that
in that time? I know what I'm taking.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
You might say, Nick Johnson, really yeah, I think he
would be in the conversation TJ.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
McConnell, Well, uh, there's only one guy in my mind.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I mean, from just flat out talent, regardless of anything else,
just flat out talent, it was DeAndre. I mean he
was just an unbelievable player, dominating player. If you erase
the fact that he crapped himself in the you know,
in the in the n C Double A Tournament and
all that stuff, but you know, just a flat out
talent and physical specimen. DeAndre was an incredible talent. And

(43:27):
it's unfortunate the way that thing ended. I'm missing somebody,
you know, were you gonna throw out? Yeah, you know
he's got to be in there.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
He's versatility again.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
The way his thing ended though, kind of tarnishes what
we think of him. No fault of.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Him, so him, and then you're forgetting another guy, Aeron Gordon,
who was very good, but he's again didn't play here
long enough. And even though marketing it didn't either, right.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
And and and and Aaron Gordon he was frustrating to
because he couldn't make a free good could make, you know,
so to me, I mean, to me, he's a guy
that was so gifted, but you were frustrated because of
what he what he did lack sure, So it's hard
for me to put Aaron Gordon way the heck up there,

(44:16):
even though I know he's we're gonna at to number
one and all that. Let's take this, Hi, you're on
the Aaron on the ball.

Speaker 12 (44:22):
Hey, guys, how you doing how what's the word I
just pulled? Pulled over a couple of things. I loved
you saying that, Steve, it was funny that guy had
such good viewpoints that your guest though, Brett. Yeah, and
you say there's not the viewpoint. Good viewpoints aren't lost
in the show, he was spot on the statement he

(44:45):
said about Tech Baylor with the stadiums and they won
each basketball and football.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, no, I think that's what Arizona is gonna be
up against.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, it's like the Indiana think when they played Indiana
in Vegas and oh we're this, were this and in
Indiana because of their long list of stuff. The wait, wait,
we better sit down, you better sit down.

Speaker 12 (45:05):
You guys are just about to say that the best
player from Texas Tech. But then the uh, the tep
weather thing came on.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Okay, if you didn't know that came on, we don't
hear who is it?

Speaker 12 (45:20):
Pat Mahomes went there right right?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah? No, No, My point was who who do you
think of? Who do you think of when you think
of Texas Tech?

Speaker 12 (45:30):
Yeah, and I can't.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
I came up with Mike Leach and then Steve came
up with Bill J. Tolliver, which was a great Texas
football player name back then.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
And then, but we saw this guy James Gray, right,
we saw him run over Arizona for like five hundred
yards and then and then Steve Smith, Steve Smith went there.
Steve he went, he was with Ruben Berry. He was
going to come here and didn't come here. He went
to Texas.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Know p of the Washington. But it wasn't Steve though.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Steve Smith.

Speaker 12 (46:05):
Wait a basketball football player, football player.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
He played for the Redskins.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I know you're talking about. It wasn't Steve.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
It's not Steve. It had to be Steve Smith. I'm
pretty sure Steve Smith.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
No, Steve Smith is a wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Oh Timmy Smith, Timmy Smith, Timmy Smith, right, that guy. Yeah, yeah,
So those guys. That's that's pretty much all I know. Yeah,
what else, Howard? How have you been? Okay?

Speaker 12 (46:30):
Yeah, we're fine, you know, busy. I finally got my
garage pretty well done and I'm excited. But now we
got to work on the daughter's house buying it.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
So okay, okay, appreciate you'll be coming to my place.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
That's exactly Steve. Steve wants you to fill in his pool.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
We talk you and take our care guys.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Who's your question you
wanted to ask me?

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Okay, when you were fourteen years old? Oh god, what
are the Olympics on your radar?

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Fourteen? What years?

Speaker 6 (47:03):
This?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Fourteen? When you were seventy eight ish? Seventy eightish? Probably
not no, probably not.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
A fourteen year old Australia one Olympic gold medal. But
listen to this. The silver and bronze medal winners were
fifteen and fourteen. Yeah, yeah, skateboard.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I saw that and I was thinking about the same thing.
You were, What the world? What's the world coming to? Like?
You know, these young kids doing it, but they're all
like just like the in Tahiti they have the skateboarding, surfing.
And the woman was like twenty two or whatever it was,
and come on, we're where the world is for the
young man.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
When I was fourteen years old, I was ringing doorbells
and running, okay, things like that.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I was a paper boy. This is a paper boy
at forty. It's a different age. I mean, kids are
growing up fast and do it all.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
He's too fast, right. Probably the thing is if she
you know, if she wants to be in the next Olympics.
She's gonna be an old lady. At eighteen, were like,
get out of here, you old lady.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Here, Well, look at gymnastics the same counting how old's bios?
She's twenty fourish a bios?

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I think she's twenty six? Remember the old Corbett? Well,
was she thirteen? Wasn't Ogle Corbett thirteen? That year in
the in the in the I don't remember in the
what year was it the eighty No? Nothing, seventy the
seventy two Olympics.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Twenty seventh, So old she was bus I think, And
that's that's kind of old because.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
I remember Olga Corbett. You think, wait a minute, this this.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
How old was was the Tucson since.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
A Carrie Strug Yeah, she was not twenty. I don't
think when she was in there, you know when that
that year Olympic year that she's she's most famous for it.
Let me see oga Corbett is she was born in
fifty five, So in seventy two, wow, seventeen, Yeah, she
was seventeen. That's summer. I thought she was like thirteen

(49:07):
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Well, they had a couple of girls. I think that
age last night on the Gymnastics.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Show, Oga Corbett retired from gymnastics at twenty two. That's crazy,
but you know it's but those are different people.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Fourteen, No, No, I was different. I was just worried
about playing baseball and having fun and being a fourteen
year old.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah. But you know some of these Olympians who were
the swimmers and stuff like that, right, I mean Amanda Beard,
we had her, she was sixteen in her.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
First holding the Teddy Bear. Remember that, Remember in her first.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
She was fun, she was old, sixteen years old. Yeah,
I was just happy to have a driver's license right
at a car.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
That's the whole thing. And I wanted to ask her this,
but I didn't, And I think, we're you nervous? And
she said she was always nervous. But when you're sixteen
and you're facing these people that you kind of grew
up watching, right, how much? How how intimidating is that?
But even then you're probably sixteen, you don't give a crap.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
You don't know better, You don't you don't know better exactly,
you don't know any better. You don't know any better
to be nervous or whatever. It's like, I'm sixteen, I'm
here with you.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
I'm competing.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Yeah, I'm you know, yeah, I mean I'm a I'm
a competitor, and I'm here because I deserve to be here.
So I don't care how old you are.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'll give you this. So you're you're your age right now.
You know you know, not Twilight, but you're getting older
when you're playing golf. No, No, I'm trying to make
a point here, trying to make a point, especially when
I like play poker or whatever, because it's all the
competitive I am. No, you're playing golf against Do you
play golf against older people?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
No, I'm the oldest person.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Okay, So so do you have a do you have
a special special and something special inside you that makes
you want to beat the beat the ass of the
younger kids, or you just.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Play I compete against myself. I want to be that's
the score that I normally so no, I have a
score that I want to shoot so much every time.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
My point is if you're you don't make my point
because you don't play against If you're playing against older
people and you're thinking these guys are pretty good or
not good, I still want to don't want to.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Lose, well, I want to, Like I want to. I
want to beat my son at golf, okay, but he
plays a different game than I play. You know, for
me to beat him is different. But he's not gonna happen.
It's not gonna happen much, very very rare. I've beaten
him like three times since he was a junior in
high school. Right we GoF Saturday at Fredank, went out

(51:30):
to Freddank and golf. I shot a thirty nine on
the front nine, and I'm like, I haven't shot in
the thirty really good. I haven't broken forty on a
nine in years. And he shot at thirty eight, all right,
and I'm like, I got a shot at it, okay.
And then then I shot fifty on the back and
he and he shot thirty seven. He shot a seventy five.
I shot. I had to make a twelve foot putt

(51:53):
on the eighteenth hole to break ninety, which to me,
that's my goal. I want to go out and break
ninety every time.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
So my point is, you know, when you play against
older people or whatever, young people, you have something in
you that you don't want to you don't want to lose.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Like like when I golf with my brother who's older
than him, my brother Jean. He's a different golfer. He's
always We've always been about to say he's a little
better than I. I think golf's more than I do.
But I don't. I don't feel like when we golf
against each other that I try and compete against him.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I just go out and shoot my round. Does he
does he compete against you?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
He might, He probably doesn't want me to beat it.
I don't care if he beats me because I think
he's better than me. He probably doesn't want me to
beat that. But we don't sit there and pay attention
to each other scores. He doesn't ask me, what are
you shooting?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
No, but you do at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
At the end, he'll yeah, I'll always tell you, we'll
do you shoot a eyeshot ninety two, shot in eighty seven,
shot you know, fifty four or whatever? You shoot?

Speaker 5 (52:48):
You know?

Speaker 4 (52:50):
No, we you know, we we do. Yeah. We talked
about our scores at the end. But if I shoot
a ninety and he shoots shot in eighty five, I
don't go, oh crap. You know, if I shoot ninety,
I'm pissed it. I didn't shoot eighty nine. Yeah, which again,
when I shot the thirty nine on Saturday, I thought,
I got I'm gonna break ninety by a lot. And
then I had to make a putt on the last

(53:10):
hold to break it, and I did the fist pump
and everything. It wasn't a Tiger Woods fist pump because
that would have hurt my shoulder, but it was. It
was a I was very happy that it made that butt.
It was the best after shooting thirty nine. Ben gave
a shoulder exactly. Okay, hey, a good shoot today.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
It's fun.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
It was fun. Thank you, Damian Alomita, Thank you, Brett Ferroll.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Tomorrow, Kevin Leman, we'll try to get back into the
minds of people and see how he helps and let
somebody no, that's impossible.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
That's a bad place. Yes, it's a dark place. All right. Hey,
thanks for being here. We'll see tomorrow.