Tuesday, July 8, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Very good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with
me today is Dave Silver Day. Welcome back. It's good
to be back. Could be back in the cold room.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, it's one hundred and five outside, sixty five inside.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's Bobby. This is one hundred and seven, one hundred
and eight. Okay, that's one of those days. One of
those days. And got ray. Thanks for coming back. Great,
But you have anything else to do?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Uh yeah, not right now. Actually, nothing else to do.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Get in you're my soccer expert, so we might talk
about that. Hello, everybody, h it was scrambled today, but
I think we might have pulled off a pretty good show.
Maybe we'll tell me talk to me at five. We'll
find out. Yeah, we'll find out. With a lot of
things going on with the twelve meetings today, right or
at least half of them.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's right media day in Texas, Frisco, Frisco, Texas, Texas
Home with the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We'll see more wins from one of these Big twelve
teams than the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, most likely U of A doesn't talk until tomorrow though, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
We'll talk until tomorrow. So mum's the word today. A
issue went today, so maybe I'll try to get somebody
for tomorrow from a issue, But from today, I wanted
to get one of our usual guests, or or not
frequent but usual Texas Tech guy beat writer from the
from the Lubbock Journal Journal, the Everyone's Journal, Nathan Geis.

(01:40):
He was out there. I picked him because when he
comes on frequently, and I think Texas Tech may be
one of the favorites, if not the favorite, to win
the league. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean they've had a lot of the preseason hype
has been around them, so I mean it's interesting because
the whole conference seems like it's a lot of parity,
which is good and bad. I mean it's like you
never know if you could be picked, you know, thirteenth
in the preseason, which they're not even doing a preseason, bro,
but you could be you know, thought of as one
of the worst teams, and you want, you know, you
win the thing like.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
A shu last. Well, the thing is I think they
bought a lot of players they did, surprise, surprise, no
money talks. Let's see if they play to the to
the level that they're getting bought by.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, I mean Texas Tech has got this big booster
and he's been able to you know, attract and pay
some of the top players there. Their softball genom from Stanford.
They they you know, they got the million dollar deal
and another one as well. So I think someone is
you know, helping out down there.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Man, I should have been in a will Man or something.
It's a it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I kind of I don't like the idea of an
official list, you know, because everything like everyone's going to
base their opinions off that. But I do like the
idea that everyone can make like their own individual lists,
and you know, there's gonna be probably a little bit
of bias, and sure, sure of course, you know, I
think it switches things up kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. I think that guy Justin Spears had him at ten.
I'll just spa in Arizona and Arizona ten and we
talked about that yesterday RD somewhere eight to ten. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I think the key is if they can get to
you know, six or seven wins to get in the
Bowl game situation. That's kind of I think expectations would
be that'd be good for this year based on on
the last.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Couple of seasons. Yeah, so another people had them fourteen
lower than that. You know, there's a lot of a
lot of who knows, right, there's a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Of who knows a lot of a lot of movement
in the league. We think about the Colorado situation, you know,
their big stars are.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Gone, and about rich Rot rich Rod coming.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Back and Scott Frost coming back in the league, some
guys with offensive mines. Yeah, the league has always had
a lot of good offense. But there, I mean, this
is gonna be something we'll have to kind of keep
an eye on here, right.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
No, I think it's gonna be an entertaining year. I
being a journalist, I don't care what happens, but it'll
be interesting to see what Arizona does and its improvement.
What was the talk that the offense would be better
than the defense at least you think.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, at least better than last year's offense.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, you went to get what you covered the games?
Yeah it was it was vanilla. Yeah, vanilla can taste.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, which is a shame when you have a first
round draft pick catching balls out there, you want me
to use him a little bit more right creatively?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, and they tried. I mean he tried to. He
tried to go to more than he needed to. True, yeah, true. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I always feel like he I don't know, because there
was that big story of t Mac, like like his
foot getting injured right before the season, right, and I
just think like it never got back all the way
just because I mean that's a you know, that's a
sensitive like you know kind of and.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
This might have been well, this was talked about his
demeanor on the on the field, you know, kind of
his head to being dejected and kind of little. I
think he got over that. He would realized that was
happening because he was getting it from his family and
everybody else. And that got fixed because if it didn't
get fixed, the pros aren't gonna track you down, right,
you know, if you're a mouth content or a bad apple. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, plus you know, as you mentioned right, the foot
injuries take forever.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
You know, you might feel good and you come back
and you play and next thing you know, you're Gary's
Haliburton again. You know, you've come back, if maybe you
come back too soon, you don't want to overdo it.
So I wouldn't be surprised if that was maybe an
issue last year. You still put up some crazy numbers.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Oh yeah, you know, but yeah, and I mean like
getting back to the whole, like the whole like body
language thing. It's also you know, it's not something you
want to put on tape. I remember, like I mean,
granted it was high school, but it was like I
remember our football coaches. They'd get honest, like, hey, keep
your head up, you know, don't look tired.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
All that stuff, right, And that shows a lot, I mean,
not just the body language, but that shows the kind
of character you have. Persson. You are in defeat and
in victory, you know, don't you can't. You don't want
to be a payt in the ass winner. You also
don't want to be a sobby yes with a whiney loser.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean, there's sort of losers in winners in the world.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
And your teammates see that too, you know, especially the
ones that are thinking about coming to the school or
coming to play with him. They want to make sure
that they're coming to play with a guy who's gonna
have some heart and show that he really cares. But
like I said before the injury situation, you know who knows.
Some of these guys come back because they need to
come back and want to showcase themselves. And sometimes it's

(06:09):
too early, too soon football, you know these the season
is basically you know, stuck in three months and that's it.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Yeah, And I think that's always been like the conversation
around football and like why kind of like viewership's always
like great for like regular season football compared to like
regular season NBA. It's like every game matters, like it,
and it's even more magnified I think in college, because
it's like, you know, you can drop a couple of games,
and if you're in a weaker division in the in
the NFL, then you know, maybe you can sneak into
the playoffs. But it's like you drop, you drop more

(06:37):
than three two games, really it's likely not making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
In football in the NFL, I mean you can go
whatever eleven and six and your yeah, you could win
the Super Bowls exactly, but yeah, if you lose six
games in college, you're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, Like my kid coach on the hot seat, and
here we are. Yeah, here we are again, so we'll
see what happens. So good Nathan Geice in the first hour.
And Mike Bibby did already mention Mike be that yet, right,
Mike Biby hes, yeah, yeah, kind of a little for
a couple of years. Where would you rank him? We

(07:15):
go on the all time list in your time because
you were aware of time in your time eighty three
to whatever Blut's time.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I don't know, he's got to be like top three.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I have him at three, and he's a good friend
of mine, our friend of mine. I shouldn't say good
Ford top. Who's number two? If we already know who
the number one is? I know who my number two is.
Who's your number one? Sean Elliott? Oh oh I thought
you met guards? Oh yeah, No, No, all the time
you're saying three third guard, who's the top? Who's the
other two? I don't know me. Take your time. I

(07:51):
do want you to get hurt here.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, I mean Steve had a pretty good career, ok, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, but I think yeah, But I mean Biby only
played her two years, so all you needed to do
it a little title. Wait wait, wait, hold, see what
I got in my back pocket? Oh yeah, it's a
national title here? Does anybody else have it? Okay? Jason
Terry a great career, top top seven, he does, but

(08:16):
Byby was more than instrumental.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
There's too many so so my top three and there's
no right answer to this. Sean. Yeah, Damon four years
very soon. The thing about it with Damon he lost
twice in.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
The first round. Yeah he did.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Uh And in fact, to part of the book is
I asked him, what do you think your legacy isn't
he didn't go there. He didn't go there because he says,
how can I say? You know? But he was fantastic.
The thing is he had a great partner in Kalid
uh So so Biby with three three and Juius. Yeah,
but he was one of two years and he was
a He was a knucklehead and that didn't help, you know.

(08:55):
So after that, can you.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Want to go back farther? He just can talk of
the lute era.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Just from the from like because you could, Hey, the
Coneyil Normans and the Herman Harris's and Bob Elliotts. Yes,
they deserve somewhere in the belong list. But in my time,
in kind of my era, there were so many, there
was just so.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
It was just endless. It was like overlapping too. I
know we've talked about this before, but I still have
a hard time thinking about, like did that guy play
with that guy? I mean, there were so many overlapping
years where you know, one guy was a freshman and
a kid senior and they you know, it all kind
of swapped out.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It was pretty amazing how that went. I'll give you this,
And I wish I could find him, and I'm sure
I could if I really tried. The most underrated guy,
most underrated, underappreciated probably in those two.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Words like Rayo's was good. That's a good answer. You know,
he was one he probably I bet he averaged what
fifteen to seventeen a game?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Maybe it just clutched from the twelve foot line.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, he's the kind of guy that like wouldn't
be a big star today, maybe because they don't play
that game anymore. No, you got to either hit threes
or unks. It seems like.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Would you take ray O's over Michael Wright? Yeah, same
kind of same kind of That's why I asked. It's
kind of like, is this you're like an outrican?

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
This better? Or is this better? What do you need?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You need a guy who's going to go inside and
bang get some rebounds. You need a guy who can
spot up and maybe hit a fifteen foot Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So my guy and I asked this question purposely because
I say this asked this question a lot Christmas. Yeah,
the dude could play in a time where it was
a transition from you know, Brian Williams to him and
then the great team that lost to Sound in Clara
because they only lost one time in the Pac twelve pack.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Ten there were seventeen and one seventeen one. His last
year was yeah. Wow, No, he was good and he
had a nice long career. Yeah, kind of again, it's
kind of an unsung player. I'm sure he made an
All Star team or two, but you know, he wasn't
like that kind of a guy and he didn't you know,
he didn't flaunt his talent.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
But he was always, you know, consistently good.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
It was always, you know, averaging between fifteen and twenty
a game.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I'm sure I think he probably finished with seventeen or
something like that. No, very good under to me, because
you rarely hear his name. Yeah, he was fantastic. I
wish a lot of these guys.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I know that we've been lucky to have a lot
of them come back, but it seems like even more
could I don't know, there's so many.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, why don't you find an organizer reunion? Well we
do it with lut Camp. But let me tell you,
now that he's gone, it's a little bit more difficult
even for me to be kind of into it. They
come for a reason and that's him or that was him,
you know, and and to be to hang out with
their buddies, and that's always been there, the camaraderie and

(11:34):
the friendship and stuff like that. But it's it's tough
to come back in August and they're in a gym
and it's a lot of fun. But and now that
Loot's gone, it's been but five years now, almost five
years in August, so that's a little tough.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
We also next year is going to be what the
thirtieth thirtieth anniversary of the championship, So it'll be ninety seven, Yeah,
so well, isn't it would be twenty twenty seven will
be the thirtieth Anniversaryess whle mission.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, but it's not twenty twice twenty next season. A
couple of seas, A couple of seasons. Yes, yeah, so
that'll be either your mass is bad or mind is well.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Not just thinking.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Man, I'm gotting old.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I can't even add up twenty seven and three.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, thirty years, come on, that should be a that
should be a moment in time in Kale. You remember
when it was twenty or twenty five? Was it twenty
five twenty? It was twenty yeah, not too long, not
too long ago. You know, some of the guys, A
lot of the guys came back. Loot was still around,
and they had the ceremony at the Red Blue Game
and the guys came out.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean it was cool last year Gilbert showing up
for the Duke game and yeah, with a few of
the other guys.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It was nice, really, right Gilber. I haven't talked to
Gilbert since she played with the Golden State Warriors. You
saw his I was gonna say, I did see that,
doctor and I think we talked about this. It was
a little a little in mightety shoot guard Shooting Guards.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, did you watch it? It's still on the list.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean wasn't the non shooting guards. I think it
was called shooting guard. No, no, no, but they didn't they
didn't shoot each other. They were close, non shooting.

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Guns in the locker room or whatever. And one guy
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Streaming live on the iHeartRadio AP This is I on
the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Hey Welcome back to Winding the Ball. You're on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today with me
is Dave Silver got ready behind walked waiting for pro calls.
Now were on the phone. We have Nathan Geiss from
the Lublock Avalanche Journal. Are you doing Nathan? The season
started today or probably has already started a.

Speaker 14 (18:46):
While though, that's kind of been going for a little
bit now. As soon as we got down with the
softball run, it kind of shifted.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
Immediately into football season for us.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Wow, did you cover the softball team too?

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (19:00):
I did Oklahoma City twelve straight days.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
What yeah? Yeah? Who said was yeah? Have you had
time to sleep? Because if you're covering football, probably basketball
and softball you when you get time off.

Speaker 14 (19:18):
As soon as I got home, I took a week
of much needed vacation and it was directly from basketball
into softball.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Then it was non stop until then.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
So I'm good.

Speaker 14 (19:26):
Now I'm ready to roll.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're ready to roll? Okay, you're on the show. You've
been on the show a number of times. Thank you
for doing it again today. And one of the reasons
I wanted to have you on is that Texas Tech
is not the prohibitive favorite, but it's probably in the
top three. What was the scene today, Uh, it.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
Was kind of what you expected. I'm not actually in
uh Frisco in Frisco for.

Speaker 14 (19:52):
Media days our other b report don is, but I
was following the whole thing and it was kind of
what you expected. Everybody was kind of talking about h
starting off with brett yor Mark leading things, just the
parody of the conference, and you kind of mention HEECH
is one of those teams that some and many kind
of expect to be at the top of this conference.

(20:13):
But then you got to look at Utah still got
a good team. If they can figure out the quarterback situation,
they should be good there. Kansas State maybe wasn't as
good as people thought last year, but there they got
talent back in Arizona States, the White everybody's kind of
looking at I mean, you take away the lifeblood of
that offense, Cam Scat a boot, but they returned pretty
much everybody else. And that's a really good chunk from

(20:36):
a team that figures out how to win, and Tech
kind of fits into that. But it's a very different.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Situation for them because there's so many new bodies and
faces they had to fit into this and if you
look at it on paper.

Speaker 14 (20:49):
Yeah, they should have the talent there to maybe not
run through the Big twelve, but at least be in
Arlington for the championship game. But it's it's.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Hard to say who's actually going to.

Speaker 14 (20:59):
Come out on top of this thing.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, they're talking about the transfer class ranking second nationally
behind LSU. So what's happening there in Lubbock to get
these guys to come over?

Speaker 14 (21:10):
Oil money, baby, oil money. The big boosters, Cody Campbell
and John Sellers, they struck oil and they're trying to
strike to strike oil. And with the athletic department. Now,
what they really did this last year was they figured out, okay,
we have the house settlement coming up. There's this period
of time when that first portal window opened in December

(21:34):
for football where you're still in the wild wild West
of nil. So you can go and overpay.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
For some talent to get them to love it to
get this kind of thing rolling.

Speaker 14 (21:45):
And I think the idea behind that is if you
can get this team to be cohesive and.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Have that success, that will help you in this.

Speaker 14 (21:53):
Next stage with the House of It, where the numbers
aren't going to be as inflated, but you can have
proof of concept. If we put this scene together, we
have success. If we can keep doing that, albeit with smaller.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
Paychecks coming your way, we can become.

Speaker 14 (22:09):
This next power in the Bay twelve. And I think
everybody's trying to do that. I think we talked about
this last year. Everybody's trying to be that.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
Big twelve consistency and texting. Is this as better chance
to do that?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Have you guys or anybody somewhere out there in Texas
spoken to the boosters and what's the I'm sure they
want success, but the reason behind all this because that's
a lot of money, and I'm sure they have it,
of course, but what's the reason.

Speaker 14 (22:39):
Yeah, when you get boosters like them, I mean Cody
and John their former Red Raiders themselves, and John Sellers
married a former text softball player, that's how the.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Whole Isaac Kennedy and I I feel what kind of
came about.

Speaker 14 (22:53):
And they're more invested with softball. It really just takes these.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
People who are so dedicated in love the school and
their album moters to want to chip in, and just
so happens, Tech has some billionaires that are able and
willing to do that.

Speaker 14 (23:08):
Like, they're very involved. Cody's on the border regions.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Now and he's so he's got a prominent position within
the university.

Speaker 14 (23:16):
System as well as this position, So they're highly highly
involved to today with everything going on at the school,
and they see this as their opening. You couldn't do
this before the NIL era, before the transfer portal really
started popping up, and they see this as the opportunity

(23:36):
to go do that now.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was reading your story on the Lubbock Avalanche Journal
and the quote from Kobe Cody is I will fix
it a situation for Texas Tech is that this is
how he's doing it, just basically paying to get people
to come.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Well, yeah, and that's that was a reference to a
tweet he had. He was complaining about officiating from the
Colorado game and somebody said, well, well, why don't you
fix our offensive line? The respond to that guy Will's
he's very inactive.

Speaker 14 (24:09):
On social media.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Uh so you kind of know what he's thinking at
all times.

Speaker 14 (24:15):
But this is kind of what.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
They're trying to do.

Speaker 14 (24:17):
And this was happening before, but maybe to a smaller scale,
like incremental guys that go.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Get a guy here, go get the guy there. This
was the first full.

Speaker 14 (24:27):
Wave thing that they've kind of done in this and
part of that is because of the timing of everything with.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
That space, with NIL still the major.

Speaker 14 (24:37):
Factor going into the house tent where it becomes revenue
sharing what TECH is still going to be very involved
with that. They've already done that with a high school
recruit that they got to coming in for next.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Year, and this is this is their chance to do it.
They see the opportunity in front of them. But now
the big question is is this gonna work? I mean,
it's really hard to put together a whole bunch of
new faces like this.

Speaker 14 (25:01):
Tech is doing it.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Not just with the transfers. They've got new coordinators on
offense and defense, and that defense was atrocious last year,
especially against the past, and that was why Tim Druder
got fired.

Speaker 14 (25:12):
So now you have to figure out how to.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
Make new systems and new coaches.

Speaker 14 (25:16):
Work on top of having these new players, which I
think can be kind of beneficial if you have new
players all learning along with the returner guys. So it's
a it's new for everybody.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
At the same time, given the secrecy of NIL, I
guess that's the right word. I'm not sure it is.
Do you know how much has been spent on this team?

Speaker 14 (25:35):
I know it was reported, but I believe it was
ESPN It was a ten million.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
Dollars haul for the transfer class.

Speaker 14 (25:43):
That's not including the guys they already had here. So
what the actual number is It's really hard to say,
and it's kind of I like it better when we
don't know, because, like I was mentioning.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
I followed the softball team that was my ring be
all year, so I was very invested with that.

Speaker 14 (26:02):
The fact that Nija's number was so public.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
It made things a little bit weird.

Speaker 14 (26:08):
Whereas that was the only thing people wanted to talk
about as opposed to her talent. So I'm very curious
on how this is going to work with the football
team if they are successful. Is it going to be, Hey,
they they've got great schemes, they've got great players. Oh,
by the way, they're spending X amount of money to
do that. So I like it better when I don't know.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
I think it to knowing what.

Speaker 14 (26:31):
Somebody makes, and it does change how you see people,
especially college kids. Oh, I know, you're making two and
a half million dollars and I'm living in a dumping
South lovebock here.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
But you can't let you can't let that happen, especially
in this kind of be and so it's a lot
easier to not let that happen when it's just big
terms like oh about that, okay whatever, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Mean, I'm last year they were talking like Ohio State
and Oregon had like the twenty million dollar team and
things like that. But you know, maybe Texas Tech's going
to be ahead of that. How about is it Felix
Oho five million?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Is that correct?

Speaker 7 (27:11):
There is some differentially different reporting there the story I did.
I talked to his manager. He's standing by the three million,
five point one there, three years, five point.

Speaker 14 (27:26):
One million, and I'm less interested on what he's making.
But the fact is that they're doing it.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
And I think it's important to understand there are.

Speaker 14 (27:37):
Nuances to this kind of thing, right, Like you can
look at that financial figure and say that's it, but
when you're looking at the scope of college sports, there
has to be more than that.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
You have to give these athletes, these high level athletes,
a reason to say, hey, come take our money and
play for us. Because it's one thing to take a
big paycheck.

Speaker 14 (27:59):
It's another to win with that. And if you don't
think you're gonna win with that, then your stock goes
down because then you're on a losing key. So you're
not gonna go and just take a bunch of money
for the sake you're taking a bunch of money.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Some people will, I.

Speaker 14 (28:13):
Mean most adults would, But for a guy like Felix
who's got NFL aspirations, he kind of knows that, hey,
we need to be successful so that my draft stock
goes up, other people's draft stock goes up, and that
counts with success on whatever your playing surfaces.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I can't remember how long you've been in love it
because I think that was not your first job. You
were somewhere else before. Correct, how long have you been there?

Speaker 14 (28:39):
About three and a half year?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Three and a half years, Okay, so you're kind of
right here on the cusp I was maybe when you
first got there. What I'm sure the mood on the
at the university is fantastic, given the softball, given the football, now,
uh basketball, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, a lot
of good things going on. Whereas you know, before it
was kind of just you know, kind of not running
the mill, but you know what I'm saying, And now

(29:01):
it's kind of like, hey, we're going to be good
and we're going to be even better. Is it kind
of Do you have that feeling now on campus?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (29:09):
For sure.

Speaker 14 (29:09):
And it's definitely changed in who's paying attention to what's
going on in tech.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
I mean what they've been written about by more media outlets.
And I've been here for three years combined this offseason,
you know, people are.

Speaker 14 (29:23):
Starting to pick a look at this and it's got
people coming here to let them know, Hey they have
a sprouse. Well we've had a sprout for seven Yearsly do.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Throut here, but not just me, but more people are
paying attention.

Speaker 14 (29:37):
But they're but again, it kind of comes with as
more eyeballs come, as you are generating your own headlines
for what you're doing and welcoming that attention for what
you're doing.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Now you have to.

Speaker 14 (29:50):
Go do it because if you don't do it, it
looks a lot worse for sure next off.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
Season if you try to do it again.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna I was going to ask you, Dave,
do you have something before I can remember gonna say.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Your your basketball coach teamed up with Tommy Lloyd, right,
this just this last couple of weeks out in Switzerland.
So it was kind of cool just to see the
two of them, you know, on the same on the
same bench and you know, being you know friends, and
you know, the U of A and Texas Tech have
a nice little I think rivalry going in basketball. It's
gonna look, I think it's gonna be good through the years.

Speaker 14 (30:27):
Yeah, and Grant's but said nothing but praises for Tommy Alloyd.
I think what I've seen Tommy said the same for Grant.
They're just two like mighty guys who who.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
Want to go out and win.

Speaker 14 (30:37):
Then beginning to do that going overseas. And you know,
for Tommy, he get the coach one of his incoming guys,
and Graham get to play and uh assists in the
championship game against one of his guys, and Christian Anderson
get to see him blossom into even more of a
starring rule than what they're kind of expecting. You had
to kind of take that lead for Texas tex So that, yeah,

(30:58):
that was a good experience for everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
That was a good that was fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I mean, that was was really encouraging just to see
the talent and at that age how good those guys were.
It's gonna be some some good players coming.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So, Nathan, given that you're right in the heart of it,
how does Texas feel, How does Texas A and M
feel about you guys? Kind of like the stepchild doing
really well and they trying to super sat stuff or
what are they.

Speaker 14 (31:22):
Thinking, Oh, well, don't go use the step child.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
People are going to.

Speaker 14 (31:27):
Take offense to that for sure, but it's it's exactly
what you would kind of expect, you know, when the
more successful I guess to use your analogy, there's more
successful siblings, they see the kid brother coming up, it's like, well,
they're they're just paying for everything, Like, well, what the
heck did you do the same thing everybody's done.

Speaker 7 (31:49):
It's just in a much more public light now. So
it's very much that they don't know how to react
to it. But again, a part of it is if
you look at just last year, Texas football went to
college football playoffs and they had a good season. Texas
text football is going to try.

Speaker 14 (32:07):
To do that this year.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
So it's still they again.

Speaker 14 (32:09):
It's about proof of concept.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Can you make this happen, whereas Texas and Texas A
and M. I guess not really recently for A and M,
I've been kind of down in a lot of aspects,
but for at least the long board, they still have
that we're still better than you because they are.

Speaker 14 (32:27):
And so that's that's why Tech's trying to close that gap.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, we have Obviously everyone knows softball here is a
key is a big deal in Tucson. I couldn't stop
not watching the softball out there this because of Texas, Tech,
the pitcher, all these great great teams out there. One
pitch away pro probably winning the national title. That must
have been tough.

Speaker 14 (32:50):
Oh that's that stale, intentional watch. That's going to be
one of those drawback storylines you kind of go into
next year.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
And so coming off of that and you get one
game away and you just you tried to run her out,
Kennedy out there again for game three.

Speaker 14 (33:08):
She just didn't have it.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
Texas was an honor from the jump.

Speaker 14 (33:13):
So then to just instantly react to like, Okay.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
We were one game away from a national championship.

Speaker 14 (33:17):
Now let's add more to it and make it completely undeniable,
Like they've added more All American.

Speaker 7 (33:25):
From last year than the program has had in its
entire program history before last season.

Speaker 14 (33:30):
Yeah, so it's one of the Again, it's you got
a lot of moving parts there. It's were a long
way off from that, but if you look at it,
they followed kind of.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
The similar formula of the football team.

Speaker 14 (33:41):
But they were able to kind of do it with
higher level transfers.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
Because this is so new for softball, everybody's like, all right,
let's go see what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Right. Well, I've been a beat rider for twenty five years.
At least I was for a long time. Dave covered
up on TV. It's better to cover a winner than
it is a loser, so you'll be happy.

Speaker 14 (34:01):
Well, that's a the winner. We're still waiting to see
it that it comes about, but as of now, yeah,
there's a little bit more going on in my work
life right now.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Right. No, good for you, Good for you, Take care,
Thanks so much for joining us today. We'll talk to
you soon.

Speaker 14 (34:17):
Thanks you guys.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
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Speaker 2 (38:06):
Hey, welcome back to Why on the Ball here at
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver
got ray behind the scene here. We can take some
calls five two zero four, one, six, seventy four or forty.
Good to talk to Nathan. I saw you just had
a rich Rod thing. Is that from today?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
It was a couple of days ago, but yeah, rich
Rod coming back into the Big twelve back to West
Virginia will be kind of a kind of an ongoing
story for us.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Do they did you see the schedule? Are they is there?
Everyone going there? Or are they coming here? Or are
playing that all? Because you just added that Texas Tech
and Arizona are not playing correct this season. Let's look
that up. Yeah, okay, soy it was good to talk
to him. But you know, money talks, and it's funny
as we hear that Texas Tech is doing really well

(38:51):
with two dudes with a lot of money, and you're
one of those guys that were chasing whales for the
last ten years. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
That No, West Virginia on the schedule.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
They're not playing with Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
They're not on the schedule.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Okay, maybe they can face off in the championship game
over the big Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I think its gonna be the bottom ten and they're
going to be at the bottom ten as well. Yeah,
not that that's going to happen, but but I'm sure
rich Rod is very happy being back there.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
You know what, will be talking games though it's only August.
August thirtieth, is that first game against Hawaii? So six
weeks away or something nice, nice toasty evening in Tucson.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh yeah, same thing late today. Sure again if they
want to call five to zero four one, six seventy
four forty how how this is? This is a dumb question, Dave,
because of your previous life before retiring, where you had
whales coming to you rather than you chasing the whales.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Oh pretty rare, honestly.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
And then those guys were already in. If they're already in,
you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Saying, they're sometimes Yeah, yeah, it's kind of hard to
hard to do. I mean, you pretty much have to
cultivate people, even if it's going to be a small
ish gift. You want that you know, million dollar gift
or whatever this guy in Texas Tech is doing. I
mean he you know, he's got the finances and the
means to do something instantly like that. But generally speaking,

(40:12):
you know your bigger gifts. That's the way it works.
It doesn't just happen like.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Oh, I'm gonna give you, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
My fortune.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
That does happen occasionally, but it didn't happen to me
very often.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah. No, okay, it's kind of how it works. Yeah,
that's that's a big thing, I guess for them. I mean, Lubbock,
I've been there once. Have you been there? Never been?
I've been. I maybe passed once, passed through because I
was in Dallas people I came here, passed through. But
what for the Texas Tech Arizona game back in eighty eight,
I think it was James Gray ran all over Arizona

(40:43):
in that surprise game. Uh, it's it's it's a pit stop. Yeah,
what's Arizona? What's Tucson? Kind of a pit stop? A
little bit more Well, because you live here, you have
to see that.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Well in a little may I don't know. I've never been,
but Iro, I'm gonna assume is there was probably have.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
More than once. But you know what I'm saying, it's
it's it's you know, Okay, this is what it is?
Uh kind of similar but.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Not I mean, Johnny Johnny Manziel, Patrick Mahomes, what else?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Over the last? Over the last, Mike Leach, we got
to call Hello, you're on the air, nine on the ball.
Who's this Vic? What's word?

Speaker 19 (41:22):
I gotta I know you've asked this question before, and
I want to ask it again. And this guy says,
these oil billionaires give so these guys are just giving
that money out of the goodness of their heart to
their school.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's what it sounded like. That's what That's why I asked.
That's why I asked, you know, what's what's in it
for them? But apparently, Vic, if you had billions and
you had nothing to do other than spend it, I guess.

Speaker 19 (41:51):
I just don't get that. And then what happens, like
you know, I mean, I guess the claim is Humberto
gave a whole bunch to Noah and Temax. Yeah, and
then you win four games. What happens then, Like if
I don't sell, I'm fired.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I hear you. I said this a lot with Jay
was here regular and I said, even before you know, regularly,
you're giving me a lot of money, and this is
what I paid for. Guess what next time, I'm not
going to do it.

Speaker 19 (42:21):
I just don't get even billionaires. I mean, just write
a check for a million bucks and say, hey, I'm
not getting anything on my return back. That's crazy to me.
I just I'll never figure it out well.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Because usually in philanthropy you want to have some results
and you want to have something impact something. When it's
just kind of transactional like this, you really have no control.
I mean, I could get injured in game one and
there's your million dollars and there's got to be some
other things maybe written into the deals. But yeah, you're right.
I mean usually when people are.

Speaker 19 (42:56):
Then and then they can leave Dave after, I mean
they can just do they just say hey, I'm out
of here because I didn't like coach yelled at me
or something.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, what's funny, he said me. He said he talked
to the manager, the manager of the five point one
guy that I'm thinking when we covered this, there's no managers.
There was a parent. I might want to get you
the whole manager. What oh you speak? I'm not no
comment today, but if you'd like to talk to my agent.

Speaker 19 (43:23):
See it's great because I mean even I bet you, like,
say the Dodger owner when he has to sign Mookie
Bett's check right now and Mookie sucking, He's like, what yeah,
screaming and crying. I bet right.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Now you know, but you know I don't. I've never
had money. H But to that level, you're thinking, uh,
it's a check here, right, you know this is what
I mombile getted. I would never know that, but you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 19 (43:46):
The last question is you guys, is their tax right
off for them on this or no?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's what I was thinking too, pretty sure there is.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
Because what what are you gonna claim it as?

Speaker 19 (43:57):
Oh, I wanted to give money to Team AAC. I mean,
what what would you claim.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
That you might know that I don't know? And I
mean other gifts yes, for sure. If you're giving money
to the univ University of you know wherever, it's a
tax right off, for sure. But I don't know about
this whole ni L money.

Speaker 19 (44:16):
That's amazing. But see, you guys didn't help. No answers.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Dang it, No Google, you don't have to guess. Go
to Google. Go to Google. Hey, by the way, with
all that money, you might you can take me to
lunch one of these days.

Speaker 19 (44:28):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
That would be my n I l that pets Pet's
hot dog place.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
I mean the students, the student athlete, I think is
going to have to pay.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Some time ye taking that?

Speaker 19 (44:39):
Oh heck yeah, they gotta and and and and it's
funny you guys that we haven't heard something going wrong
with that already.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
So let me ask you, if you were to pick Arizona,
I'm not sure if you've dug deep into this yet,
where would you put them in the in the league
overall voted them.

Speaker 19 (44:56):
Yeah, it's gonna be I'm gonna tell you. And I
said it that year and I was dumb, But they're
gonna surprise some people. They're they're going seven wins, maybe more.
This guy Dagy's for real. Noah's for real. They've got
some of the questions on both lines. But dude, that
that defensive backfield and linebacker stuff is pretty legit with

(45:22):
Dalton and and some of those guys there, they're they're
gonna be good. Well the over not a su surprise good,
but I'm picking seven. I'm even going eight wins.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Man.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Well, look, we talked about this yesterday. I think you
listened maybe yesterday. Uh, Draft King has him at fifty
five and a half and a fandel husband at four
and a half. You better, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 19 (45:46):
I'm gonna go put a hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah. See you put your million, you put your millions
in your billions on that baby. All right, thanks, thanks
big Yeah, I think you're gonna go over five. Six, Yeah,
they'll get six at.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Least being optimistic, being optimistic.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm being pragmatic because six is doable. Is this noves
being optimistic? That was stowing inside?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
The thing is they got to win the games again
that they're supposed to win, Like you know, they can't
be messing up in these early games like against Hawaii
and Weaver State. I mean, tho's got to be two wins.
Put them in on that side. I think it'll get
They gotta be convincing to because you know how this
pace is.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
If you don't impress me that, what do you want
to do Mildred on Saturday? Man, I don't want to
go to the game. They're not But you know what
I'm saying, you've seen it at all, you gotta be impressive.
And that's me.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
You know, I'm kind of in that position of my
life too, Like do I want to go sit out there,
you know for five hours on a Saturday night when
I could stay home and watch it on TV.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Are cheaper at the house, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I can eat and I can pause the game on
my whatever TV.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
And check out the other game that's on at the
same time.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Yeah, So I don't know. That's I know that's an
issue everywhere, especially in college sports with some of these
towns that aren't you know, major league cities that have
a zillion people you know here we are. You know,
it's you gotta have to have a reason. And if
the team's not entertaining, it's entertainment. It's like, you know,
you don't go to a movie and want to see
a bad movie.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, no, of course not.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah, I think the guy like, just looking at their
schedule right now, I wanna.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
We could do it. Let's do it. Let's do it
right now, because we've done it before, but let's do
it now. All right. You can take some calls to
if you'd like to join in.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
I think seven, depending on how Colorado no, no, no, no, let's.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Go game, the big game of game. You guys both
have the schedule up. My first game win agus thirtieth win,
three wins win, yeah, okay, that's one to no. Weaver
State two. Kansas State is probably a loss. Okay? Is
that that he that's here? Okay? Okay, two and one,
two to one.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Then they got Iowa State, Uh, two and two Oklahoma State.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Let's go? Is that here?

Speaker 13 (47:56):
Say? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Three? Three and two by U three and three, three
and three, I don't know, three and three.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Maybe without there at the quarterback to.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Three and three.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Okay, Houston four and three, Colorado five and three, that's
up there, isn't that's in Colorado five and three?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Thank god? That's tough. Yeah, that's it really depends on
five and three maybe four and four? Kansas?

Speaker 13 (48:23):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Is that what's out here?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Here?

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Six and three? Six and three right, yeah, right there,
and they have okay.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Cincinnati in Ohio, I don't even have six and three.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
There's six and three, and right now, right before we
go to Cincinnati, Yeah, six and three. Let's go six
and four, just because we had we kind of the
iffy game. This is okay, six and four Baylor, where's
that here? Here? I don't know seven and four.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Let's say seven and four and then uh yeah up there.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Seven and five. Yeah, because there's two games that are
like wiggle room games.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Right for Cincinnati, I think who knows.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Seven and five. They got to travel the East Coast
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
I traveled to the east and all that excuse in
November could be cold.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That sounds good.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Yeah, yeah, Like I said, it's like seven wins depending
on how some teams come out, Like do I use
one of those Colorado's one of those?

Speaker 4 (49:20):
I think it was one as one of those Arizona.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I mean, there's always every year there's the transition of
just you know, who did you have last year? You know,
she has that great scataboo and whatever. He's gone, so
they still have a great quarterback, but there's always that
question of.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
How will they fit this year?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Rebuilding the team. How much do you have to rebuild?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well, look at the thing that Arizona went to last
year the year before, fantastic. Oh, they're going to be
fantastic again. Well right away?

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Then, well look at let's look ahead to the next year,
and they're going to lose their quarterback. You know, they've
got supposedly some good guys coming, but they're gonna be
like freshmen, you know, unless they do a transfer portal situation,
bring in sophomores or something.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Well, I think they have that guy from Wisconsin should
have another year. Oh yeah, he looked okay at the
showcaselets spring showkat, Yeah, he looked.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
All right, I'm glad you paid attention to that stuff.
What else do you get to do? Right?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
It's like I was there and I'm thinking Justin Spear
is gonna kick a field goal? That was a good one, man.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
I like that they got the pants like involved and
the reporters involved obviously, but yeah, no, that was a
good time.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Okay, how much time we get we still? Yeah, so
seven and five, I think I think they'll go no
worse than six and six, no worse. And if it
doesn't go six and six, Brennan won't be around.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
You want you won't last year, I think, and seven
he still gets some another year, Brendan.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Am I rub my optimism rubbing off on you?

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Five and seven?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Yeah, I think it gets another year.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I don't know, but yeah, because the second year, you know, it'll.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Be interesting, you know, like also to to see the
attendance and just the the mood around town, how things
are going. If things start failing early.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Dave, You've been here long enough to know that if
they're going five and seven, and if how they get
to five and seven, it's not going to be good.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Because because then you'll have some of those games late
in the year, then no one's gonna want to go to.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
It could be mid October, seton and guess what in
two weeks basketball seasons.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
November eighth, Wait a minute, is the Red Blue game
coming out?

Speaker 6 (51:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
No, November third, they go to Vegas. Do you think
that Kansa is coming in on November eighth? You know?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
And then even Baylor on the twenty second, which might
be Thanksgiving weekend when tour it's.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Twenty second, so the Thanksgiving weekns twenty seventh.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Okay, anyway, you know it could be it'll be cold
for UA fans to go out there if the team
is like, you know and six at that.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Point, do you really want to go out there? Mildred, No,
I don't think that's why.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
That's why the Cincinnati game kind of it's one to
circle because it's like, I mean, it's gonna be cold
for them.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Here's the thing is we we we're talking just because
of reputation, not because of team. Right, what do we know?
We know anything? We don't know anything? Yeah for sure?
Who does?

Speaker 13 (51:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
No, it's I mean by then, Danny could be ten
or now and we know we have no clue.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
No, but I like yours one's chances. And that's the
optimist to me.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
Yeah, you can tell it summer or snow and outside.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
So you know, I was gonna give give you something
to talk about in those those months.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
The heats get into them. It is not even AUGUSTE
give me some water. I don't worry about you. Ready
to go? Yeah, just go and you think a breaking news? Yeah,
I got some stuff, Okay,