Tuesday, September 10, Hour 2

GUEST: George Kelly, Head Football Coach, Empire High School

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rovera. He's Jenkins zaaliz. Now
we're gonna have Brian with breaking news.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is High on the Ball breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Okay, yeah, exactly, Hey, growing pains.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah, all right, so let's start with some University of
Arizona news, some former Arizona Wildcats and see how they
fared in week one of the season. Sorry, Dimitri's playing again.
Fowls defits it back for the forty nine ers. He
had an interception last night, his first career infl interception.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Local kid too, right.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Is any good kid Mountain View one of those. Yeah,
it's somewhere on the outskirts, right. But I was watching
the game when he had that. I take it back.
I had the game on. I heard his name, and
then I was like, oh, okay, I recognize that, but
good good for him.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Look last night, even without Christian McCaffrey, when they turn
up this guy who comes out of nowhere and he's
running back and runs for the yard.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I think some of the people said before last night's
game that the San Francisco played, Well, you're gonna see
a repeat of last year's Super Bowl, which was a
very good game.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Who knows they lit up the Jets though.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, yeah, Rogers, you didn't watch the game. He's still
kind of indifferent.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
I again, at this point, his guy wouldn't went on
my team.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was when I heard that, I was thinking of
you right away, because he's that guy that's just a surdy,
know it all kind of guy.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
He just yeah, I agree, agree with you. More trouble
than anything, more trouble than he's worth for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
All right. Who else? So he was planning in his
out of doun View High School.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
All right, Yeah, Jordan Morgan offensive line for the Packers.
Let's see, you played sixty five of the packers sixty
seven offensive snap.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, he started and left tackle. It just it just
has offensive line.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Okay, but I think started the left tackle for the Packers,
which you know you say, okay, you're a left tackle
for the Packers if you think about the history of
those guys and the people that have played that position.
But you know, he was a first round draft pick,
you would expect that he's playing so good for him.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
I see Nick Folk hold that folk still around.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
You converted a forty yard field goal, made a couple
of extra Titans.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
He's with the Titans, all right? They got beat? Well,
they had Chicago beat. Was the Chicago they? Yeah, they
had Chicago beat and they at one at one point
because I had Chicago in a in a in a
money line parlay and uh. At one point I texted
Pat Pat Finley, who covers the Bears for Chicago. I said,

(02:47):
he wowed me ten dollars for the parlay, and then
like right after that they scored, and he text back
and said, see what I did there?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
So they ended up covering.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
But I got hose because I had the Falcons who
lost lost at home.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I'm like, what the hell?

Speaker 5 (03:03):
So anyway, I didn't do so well in the NFL yesterday,
I well, I hit something.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I can't remember what I hit. Oh, I know what
I hit.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
One where I got lucky in that the Seahawks spread
against who did the Seahawks play Denver?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Denver? Okay?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
So the Seahawks were giving six and a half and
the game started and Denver kicked a field goal, so
the line dropped to three and a half. So I
got it at three and a half. Had I gotten
it at six and a half, they would not have covered.
But I got it at three and a half and
they did cover, and that helped me hit a little
parlay for a little bit of money.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
So I did.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Okay, that won like forty bucks or something like that
over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
One.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Hey, you got to you gotta play. If you don't play,
you can't what's it? What's it?

Speaker 6 (03:48):
You can't win if you don't play it? Okay, something
like that the old lottery tagline. Okay, we got Roy Lopez,
defensive lineman for the Cardinals. I played a big role
in the game. Cardinals ow upset the Buffalo Bills yesterday
as well.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Steve's not happy about that.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, they didn't cover. Buffalo didn't cover that. That TD
return killed them, killed them. Well they still want it's
better to be one of those da YadA. Well, Arizona
hasn't covered either of its game. I didn't close, Yeah,
I didn't close. Christian Roland Wallace special teams for the Chiefs.

(04:27):
He played sixteen special team snaps with the Chiefs in
their twenty seven to twenty win over the Ravens on
Thursday Night.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
How long ago was he here. Do you remember Christian
Rowland Wallace? It's been not relatively recent. Yeah, I've played
five years, I think. All right, Okay, Tony Fields, linebacker
for the Browns. He's still playing in the NFL. Good
for him because he was a guy who kind of
was not like a major player. I mean, he played

(04:58):
a bunch and he kind of came, but he wasn't
a big name on those teams. But you know, sometimes
you know, like Robert Golden, right, I mean he was good.
You know, he was good, Crookshank, you know, those guys
were good, but you know, did you see them as
NFL players while they were here?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Borderline?

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you know, and those guys
played in the league alone. Golden still in the league, right, No, No,
he's out. Okay, A little bit of news on Fields.
He did suffer an ankle injury and he's weak to weak.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
All right.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
They'd have a couple of tackles in the game. Yep,
I got tenyor McLaughlan tied end for the Bengals. Didn't
play on Sunday against the Patriots.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Maybe he needs to because they lost those But go Patriots.
I'll tell you what God, Oh, that's right, yeah, you
you were. Was it a Brady jersey that you were
in here one time?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah? You know.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I was very surprised they won, like I was expecting.
Everybody was surprised they won.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
They're the worst team in the league, with all due respect,
and they get and they go over and beat the
Bengals at home.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
But the hell was that?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Did you guys? We were continuing, guess right, did you guys?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Go ahead? Uh?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Jacob Colling, wide receiver for the Niners, rookie wide receiver,
didn't see any steps in four game I think you
see on the practice squad or is he on the roster?
Did you guys listen to Brady?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I didn't. I didn't want reviews. But there were a
lot of mixed reviews.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
There were some people saying he was kind of like
Captain Obvious right throughout the throughout the thing.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Don't you think that I surely did this give it
an addition rather than just say, no, you're Tom Brady,
here's the job.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
I think they said, oh, you're Tom Brady, here's the job.
We're going to be three hundred million dollars. Not he
was kind of like this on this radio. Just look,
it's a hard job, all right, and it's hard and
it's hard. And then they put you, as you know,
on the number one you know broadcasting team. You know,
the deficiencies are going to show right, right, and and so.

(06:56):
But if you're going to bring in Tom Brady, you're
not gonna put him. He's not gonna be the number
three guy. So they had to put him. Where do
they put him? The thing is, did you know, did
they practice some games? I'm sure I would think you
think would, But you know, I didn't practice any games
when I went and did the Sugar Skulls, and I
was nervous as hell, and I don't think I did
a good job the first two or three games, well

(07:16):
until I got comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well that's the whole thing. You think that they would
have done all that and then pay them.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
But then on the other Tony Romo was good from
the first time he got on the mic. Greg Olsen's
another guy who's been really good from from the get go.
It's it's not an it's not an easy job. Uh,
it's not an easy job to do that, especially on
that stage.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Well, here's the thing. You give a guy a hundred whatever,
the contract just they give him more money.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Three hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
When they give them that money, guess what they're gonna do.
We gotta you gotta show them, you gotta show what
we're paying for.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Whether he's media ore.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, I didn't see enough to make a determination one
way or the other.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Did The word is that Olsen's much better Tony Romo's
much but I guess in time, in time, yeah, give
him some time. It's like him starting off, No, just
kidding him, started out the Patriots. Somebody gets hurt, he
comes in and it does really right.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Uh Yeah, Look, the guy clearly has high standards for himself.
So I think he'll I think he'll he'll probably get better,
but it's not that's not an easy job. I'm guessing
he was more nervous doing that than he was in
his last Super Bowl, right, probably, Yeah, because he hadn't
done it before.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, well, captain. I think that's a good phrase captain
because he was. He was, But maybe you expect too
much from him too right away.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
No, No, when you're.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Getting paid that kind of money, you're better be good
right out of the Then he's going to be it's
gonna be a while. I mean, he he may get good,
but when you're when you're getting paid that kind of jack,
there's no breaking period.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You got to be good right from the start. In
my humble opinion. Okay, so so there was.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
We'll use that analogy for Arizona football when much is expected,
but just expected.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, exactly. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Is well, if yeah, Parizone's getting paid three hundred million dollars,
you know.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
They're paid some paid something. Those kids are getting paid something,
Yeah they are.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah. Okay, what else did you? Let's switch over this
story regarding Sean Watson. Oh god.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
NFL says it's reviewing a civil lawsuit while Monday accusing
Watson of sexual assault and battery in October of twenty twenty,
when he was a member of the Texans.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Why wasn't this involved in or but I saw it
was twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
No, that's what this article says, twenty twenty. Why wasn't
this bundle in the previous things? And the thing about it,
he's not even any good.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Well, that's the thing. And they're saying, what's you know? Yeah,
I mean, why are you putting up with this when
he's not any good, right, you know, the Brons given
have given him all this money, all this guaranteed money.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know, Steve, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
I I imagine whether this lawsuit has any merit to it.
If I'm the Browns, I'm trying to find a way
to get out from under this guy.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
He's getting me six whatever it is, How are you
going to get out of that?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
There's gotta be a clause in the contract, because when
he signed the contract all this stuff was going on.
There has to be something in there that says, if
you do this again or if another thing comes out,
we get out of this contract. If the Browns didn't
have that in there, then shame on them and they
and they should have to eat the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Right, You're right?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Okay, So it's over to the NBA. They are the
expansion is on the table. They just don't know yet.
According to Adam Silver, I'm hoping.

Speaker 7 (10:41):
Well do we?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah? I mean, are there some some some city?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I thought I thought Vegas was next, or possibly Seattle again,
going back to Seattle, I.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Thought Seattle would be one. You know, if you lose
the team, shouldn't you not be able to get another one. Yeah,
Seattle seems like that place.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
I mean, I mean that's you know what. You know,
Baltimore loses its team, they go leave underground and they
gave them another team, right, you know, right back. You know,
if you don't do what it takes to keep your team,
and I'm not saying you should be building them in
the stadium, it's that kind of stuff, but it should
be you know, if if if a franchise is unhappy
with you and you can't figure it out, I don't

(11:19):
know why you should be rewarded with another team.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's just me.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, it looks like Vegas and Seattle are still the
top of the contenders because they'll have to do two, right,
they're not going to do one.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
No, they are the thirty teams in the NBA right now. Yeah,
I mean you want to thirty two? Yeah? Okay, all right,
that's really all we have for today.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
All right, So I guess it was something we missed
sister in today's night's so we didn't have that. Lily
Hauser has committed to the softball team. You know, she's
the daughter of Wendy Allen Hauser, who Wendy played for
Mike Candrea in the early twenty twenty three, twenty zero
zero three, two thousand and three, two four seasons. So

(12:04):
some of those legacy people are coming back, so they're
having kids. Either kids are coming year old Jan I'm
old year old brow except for Ryan here oh man.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I mean, I think continue she's this is our third
year or fourth year, fourth year, I think because we
just finished the third year to see how they eventually
come through, or maybe third year.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
We finished four years. This is our fifth year. He
started in May of twenty twenty. What about the kids,
We've done four years?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
So Tommy, Tommy, Jed and didn't stofotball coach come on
at the same time, all three because there was three
members all the same time, and then Jed left. So
I think this is going to be her fourth year. Yeah, yeah,
so we'll say fourth years. You know, she got into
the playoffs her first year, kind of got in at

(12:53):
the last minute, and here we are.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Ye and where we got come about a min and
a half?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Did you did Matt Sunday huss looked like Max and
Dae Hus on set. I'm like, like they said he
was coming on, and then I'm looking through my binocularies
and that's not Max and dhas he looked bitter or
what's to you?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
It just it just his face just didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Look like when I saw a photo of it. I'm thinking,
that's what he looks like that Max.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, yeah, right, I mean, look, okay, he graduated from
the u A.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
And what what do you know about it? What do
you know about him?

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Just on the top of your head, Well, I know
he I know he ran a restaurant for a while
across from the u A. I don't know a lot
about him, be youngest and in terms of his post
Arizona life, well, what.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
About during during the life, Well, he was a little goofy,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Way, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
The story that I have about him is that I
was in I'll pass it for that Sunbol that they
tied gets Georgia six eighty five somble, we're run out
of time, eighty five stumble.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
So the team leaves, everybody leaves.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
I'm at the hotel at the standing at the team hotel,
and I was there and I'm having drink with some
friends in the bar. The game has been over for
hours and the team is gone and he walks into
the bar with the team went home without him.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, I was with obviously David Adams and Byron talking
about how good he was, how good he was and
the late game success. He says, if there's anything he did,
he had a lot of the Hispanic women following him.
Oh god, okay, you know when you're a football hero. Yeah,
I hear you. He says he had the lock on them.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Well, there you go, and that's where head football play.

Speaker 8 (14:29):
He was.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's I just, I just I don't didn't know him personally,
but I just saw him as a little different. He
had some differences too. Okay, all right, let's take our breaks.
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All right.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Well, all right, so a little drawing pains again here.
We're just we're trying to get George Kelly, the head
football coach at Empire. They're off to another another good start.
Those those schools over in bail are just killing it.
But uh, you know, we're we're you know, these guys
are just uh, you know, I don't know, I don't

(19:52):
know what's going on on there, Steve.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I mean, they're doing very well.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
You know, when you when you got Michael Mountain, you've
got uh, You've got uh Siena has been good for
a long time. Now you've got uh Empire there. They've
won their two games. Uh, they got Ironwood Ridge coming
up on Friday, so we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, Okay, let us know when he's there. George, Are
you there? George, are you there? Go?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
This is our first day, George with us. You gotta
bear with us where we're in a new studio for
the first time.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
George, just like coaching freshman footballs.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
What's going on? What's going on over there?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
You guys are doing trumendous Not that it's a criticism,
but you guys are killing it.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
You know, it's only two games in the season.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Let's not get too Yeah. I was.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
You've been on a bit of a streak though. You
You won your last five last year, so you've got
seven in a row. Something's happened over there. What What
do you think is happening with your program.

Speaker 15 (21:02):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (21:03):
You know, I think it's just a culture change of
the program.

Speaker 10 (21:08):
You know.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
I think it started just with getting the right coaches
in the building, getting these kids around, the right guys.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
You know.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
So I think my coaches every day and we have
a small staff. There's there's seven of us all together.
There's myself, George Kelly, There's mag Magnuson he's our online guy.
There's Alan Fletcher, he's our quarterbacks coach, specializes in coaching
our quarterbacks, so that's always a great help. There's my

(21:37):
brother James Kelly. He works with our receivers and linebackers.
Then we have our JV staff. We got a great
head JV coach, Derek collins Worth. He he's awesome. He
was actually our golf coach, but very familiar with football.
Then we have the head wrestling coach helping us out

(21:57):
on JV, Corey Schiers. And then uh, one of our alumni,
one of my old players from back in the day,
Cody Mowen. So I got to give a shout out
to them, and he's helping with the JV big guys.
So it's always good when I can, uh, you know,
get somebody from the program to come help in the future, right,
So you must I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
So it is the job board taxing that you don't
have enough people or you you have very few people.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Yeah, you know, it's only seven of us. So there's
there's all seven of us coach varsity. But we don't
get that many kids coming out for football. We we
we have our school is probably about eight hundred and
fifty kids that go to our school. We're not known
to be the sports school, so we get for two
programs we want to. We run a JVB program, which

(22:51):
is freshman sophomore, and then we run varsity. So if
a kid is a junior, he's automatically going to be
on varsity. And so for each team, you know, we
have about twenty five true varsity players and about twenty
four true JD players freshmen and sophomore. So we don't
have that many kids that come out for football.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Okay, so that begs the question.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Then you know those kids that you have, and you've
got a program with not a lot of kids, and
yet you're still pretty damn good.

Speaker 14 (23:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
The thing is, you know, this is going on my
sixth season, you know, and that's including COVID as my
second season, which we really didn't have one. So you know,
right after COVID it was almost just starting back from
ground zero. Pre COVID, I was getting about eighty eighty
eight kids coming out for football. Now we're getting maybe
fifty or less. But you know, at the end of

(23:47):
the day, it's a lot easier to manage. And then
you know, the kids get a lot more personal one
on one and a lot more coaching. They get a
lot more reps, right when you're dealing probably with a
bigger school with a lot more kids. They probably don't
get as much reps as our kids, so maybe that
could be the difference.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Tell me, tell me about the fund Gooney kid. I
guess he's a running back, linebacker. Yeah, I guess he
was a player of the Week recently for All Sports Tucson.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It must be a pretty tough player, man.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
He is. He's a great kid. He was originally a
soccer player. And you know, around that time COVID, right
after COVID, you know, we were hurting for players. So
I would go to all the soccer games, the baseball games,
the basketball games, trying to get kids to come join
the program and let them know who the football coach
is over there, which is me. And you know, I

(24:40):
was really sought after Nagankru Twant Gooney because he's just
an all around athlete. And I was like, man, he
can play football. He's big, he can play football, he
can play this game. So his sophomore year he came
out for football, and you know, ever since then he's
been taken off. He was the highlights standout his sophomore
year on Bar as a defensive then come his junior year.

(25:03):
He missed three games his junior year due to injury,
but he was a standout and defensive end and running back.
And this year, you know, he's just got that much better.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
What's what's his background? He's an international player.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
Uh, he's not international. I mean he was born here
in the States, but you know he's from Cameroon. His family,
his dad is in his family is all from Cameroon.
You know, Soccer is his is his main sport that
you know culturally that they that he grew up with.
And so you know, you ask him anything about soccer,

(25:38):
he'll give you all the answers in the world. If
you ask him anything about NFL or college football, he
has no idea you know, who players are and how
they play. He doesn't really watch football like that, but
he loves playing the game, I can tell you that.
And he just knows what he knows. So one thing
that's great about Empire. We do get a lot of
kids that never played football before. But they're like an

(26:00):
empty shell and all you have to do is fill
it out. Yeah, versus getting a kid that played football
all their life. And you know, it's always a struggle
with those kids to buy into what you're doing. Right.
Bad habits, Yeah, bad habits, it's hard to correct.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, Well a kid like him, you know, who comes
in with no bad habits? Where does the love for
football come from? For for somebody like you know like him,
who you know, as you said, grew up playing soccer,
that's you know, the sport in his country. And how
do they get the the the what's the right word
love or just the you know, the urge to play football?

Speaker 3 (26:37):
And why that's that's it? What's his size? Because you
sounds like eleven one ninety is what he's listed here.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
Yeah, he's he's he's five eleven one ninety five. He's
he looks the part, he's every bit of the part.
But how does he get to have football grow on him?
I mean we're sitting there on the radio show talking
about football. He just or knew about it. And so I,
you know, I give that challenge to anyone who doesn't
know anything about football. You get to know it, you're

(27:07):
gonna fall in love with it. It's just that sport, right,
And so I think that's just that bug hit him,
you know, that bug hit him. We got him out
for football, and it took some time to get him out.
You know, it took some you know, convincing of parents.
You know, parents don't aren't too familiar with the sport either.
They think, you know, you go into football, you just

(27:27):
get hurt and those types of things. And I had
to talk with the mom and it's awesome, man. It
comes from an awesome family too. And definitely appreciate his
parents for allowing him to play football his sophomore year
because he's he's a heck of a player.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
So so now that you have a kid like that,
do the other kids kind of is it like a
not allergic, but is a draw to him that they
see how well and how fun he's making the game,
they kind of maybe become that player too.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Man. You know, I think if vice versa, it's both ways.
You know, I think we're surrounded not just by him.
We got other athletes, you know, we got you know,
I can't give enough credit to our offensive line. You know,
our offensive line is the biggest line that we've had
this year. So you know, games are one up front

(28:20):
and so and that translates down to our defensive line.
And I can't give enough credit for our defensive line too.
You know, a lot of our skill guys, our dvs
and linebackers. We're not the biggest guys out there, but
we're sound and we know how to play football. And
so I think both of all of our players combined
kind of compliment each other. And so when you have

(28:41):
that complimentary you know, not only he plays better, but
our team plays better. Not only that our team will
play better, he plays better. They feed off each other.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Right, We're talking to George Kelly, the head coach at
Empire High School. So give us a little bit about
you know, what what do you look like in the
early part of the season. Here, you got a couple
of wins under your belt. I guess I'll just ask
you this way, why have you won those two games?

Speaker 7 (29:06):
You know, the biggest thing that we wanted to do
this season is just bring some consistency and bring you know,
confidence to the team of what we run and try
to find an identity of who we are. My first
year is coaching that Empire High School. I come from
a defensive background, and you know, I was very successful

(29:29):
in establishing, you know, a defensive culture. You know a
lot of times you would hear like, okay, Empire, They're
not that good, but their defense is solid, so you
still got to work to score, and we keep scores low. However,
we never had that offensive side. We never had the
offensive scoring and learning how to score. So last year

(29:52):
was the year I took over the offense. I gave
away the defense finally to my coaches. But they've been
around long enough that they know it. So when I
took over the offense, you know, the first five games
was a learning experience, not only just for the players
but also for me. And I would Austin tell him,
you know, I'm learning this just like you guys are
learning as well, you know. And it took five games

(30:14):
for us to kind of get a good formula running offensively,
and you know, the last five games it clicked for us,
right and so so now I call the offense teaching
the kids how to win. I think that's the biggest difference,
because you know, we weren't winning in the path.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Well, that's kind of contagious.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Once you start rolling like you did five straight and
two straight, is it kind of contagious, the confidence starts
filling in. I'm assuming that your quarterback is maybe the
same guy from last year.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Yes, so Bryce and Duncan. He was He was originally
our starter. He had went down with the concussion in
one of the games, I think it was against lah Hooya,
and then we had to get another guy in there,
which was he wasn't that bad either. He had went
down last year we played with like five different quarterbacks,
so that was another struggle. But eventually Bryson came back

(31:08):
and you know, he did his He did his job,
and he's learning, he's matured and he's growing. And then
it's just one thing I love about high school football.
From one year to another, you can just see a
kid's development and it's outome to see.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
We kind of joke, we kind of joke with the
U of A coaches at least last year when Jed
was here. He came in and struggled early and all that,
and then he got better players and all of a
sudden he became a better coach.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is that the way you feel? I mean, come on,
you're doing really well.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
How have you transitioned or maybe learned a little over
the last maybe year and a year and a half.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
Oh man, I got to give credit to some of
the coaches that are around here. They have no idea
how much. They've actually helped me. One guy in particular,
I'd just like to get thanks to a coach. He's
known as a legend out here. His name is Jay Kompos.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Yeah, you know I had I had a chance, you know,
with in the last couple of years, especially when I
told him I'm taking over the offense. He's actually been
guiding me and being my mentor. Low key, he probably
doesn't know he's my mentor, but you know he is. Uh,
he's probably gonna find out now, who knows. But I
got a chance to pick his brain. Guys like al Alexander,

(32:19):
they all over at Suarro. You know, I see him
around town a lot, really close friends. I pick his
brain every time I see him. He just probably doesn't know,
you know, I just slide it into conversations. Man, Hey,
how was that Vijon kid when you were coaching him
over there? I need to figure that out because I'm

(32:41):
the running back coach over at my school. And you know,
I don't say it that direct, but you know, I
come and you know, you get around those type of guys.
They love to talk football and I man, just coaches
that are around. Another guy, Mark tex Sterrat two man,
he's a great guy. He just fed a lot of
knowledge and so that was some of my personal development

(33:03):
that I wanted to bring and take to the team
here at Empire.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And we've got about we've got about a few a
few minutes, one minute left to coach. What's next, what's
next this weekend and beyond?

Speaker 7 (33:14):
Uh, you know what's next Today. We're about to get
out there on practice right now, you know, preparing. We
got a defensive day for Ironwood Ridge, and we're gonna
take it day by day and and get ready for
this game.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Okay, So if you get eight in a row, well
then we'll set the parade down the road. We'll wait
a little while. Okay, So he's coach Row, all right,
appreciate it. That was George Kelly from Empire.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
High School again, right, yeah, you know, and and you
know he talks about, you know, talking to Alexander, talks
about Jay compos You just got this feeling that in Tucson,
and maybe it's another place too, but in Tucson, all
these coaches they're all kind of in the same boat,
and it's a fraternity that they well they compete against
he each other, they still they seem to be friendly

(34:02):
with each other.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
They help each other, yeah, and that's a cool thing
to say.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
And even like each other when they're trying to beat
the heck out of you.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah.

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Speaker 3 (36:30):
Jacobs, alas got our guy?

Speaker 17 (36:32):
Ryan?

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Thank you yet get my boot?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Sixteen minute?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh I see it's the one on the right now
of the Yeah, okay, on the left, left one left? Okay, great,
So take some calls. We can test us here for
the next sixteen See if Ryan's got it, If we
got it, Tony's working with us.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, who is it taking? Who has they called before?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
The boy?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Robert Robert is it? Robert Ryn is Robert Robert we're
ready for you now. Yeah, what an interesting questions.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Yeah, you really did. So we'll we'll get to that.
Well we'll let a mask it instead of just starting
to talk about it. But you know, again, just so
much discussion, and I guess it's a good thing, right
that people are actually carrying about Arizona football.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah, right right, they're not talking basketball yet. Yeah, yeah,
you know, so I guess we I guess we got
that going for us, which is nice.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Right right. I think, well we talk about the next
two Texas Texas after that a very winnable game, but
they haven't played very well.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
They don't look that good. They don't look good.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
They got they got beat up at Washington State I
think one of the first games.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah no, this last weekend.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, but I think before they played uh the smaller
scho Arlington or of Hard and Simmons or whatever. I
believe it was like fifty two to fifty one, and
they really won that.

Speaker 18 (37:46):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
So all right, so maybe we'll get a call here.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yeah, so uh yeah, you know again, these two these
these two games are just uh we just we just
expect them. I expect them to lose them both. So
we'll see what happens. Yeah, okay, well we got a call.
We're just trying to get you into hang on.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, hang on.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm trying to figure this out. So I Tony, you're
not going to go to Detroit, stick around with us.
You're gonna be our You'll be able to parachute every
day this week. Okay, you got them yet?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Nope? Not yees Okay, so you can hear here we
go either you're on the art on on the Ballico,
what's up?

Speaker 18 (38:44):
Hey man, I want to talk about the Cats.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Many You're you're realistic.

Speaker 18 (38:51):
The Cats are like one of those narrative girls in school, man,
that has potential. They're just not reaching it yet. We
knew a good You should have been more pissed.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
Oh I was mad, but again but I was. I
was mad, but it also was tempered by the fact
that they won. So you know, in the end, when
I put my head on the pill, I'm like, they won.

Speaker 18 (39:17):
I'm just saying you weren't that way about New Mexico
State or New Mexican whatever team was right?

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Right? Oh, he's inconsistent. It's all right. I'm a lot
of it. No, what did you see? What did you see? Nico?
Did you go Now, I didn't go. I got COVID really.

Speaker 19 (39:36):
Got it.

Speaker 18 (39:37):
Didn't go, man, I didn't want to sit through that.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
No, I went. I went, and I was in the
north end zone. Uh, great seats. I was certainly nicely
than in terms of was barely three hour games and
which a three hour game. And there was people there.
There was a lot of people, that good crowd.

Speaker 18 (39:53):
I'm just saying. Halfway through the game, I was thinking,
is this going to happen again?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah? Right, yeah, And I'm not gonna lie it.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
When when it was ten to three, I mean thirteen
to ten, No, ten to seven, they were down. Oh no,
Arizona was up thirteen to ten, and any you got
the ball two times when it was thirteen to ten,
and I thought, if any of you goes down and
scores and takes the lead again, we got a problem.
So the second they went that fourth and one and one,

(40:21):
but the defense just didn't let them and and uh okay,
and then.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Ko I can't remember if we asked you what you
thought the season would end up, you know, eight and
four seventy five, what did you remember?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
What did you say? Or did we ask six and six?
So is that still at six and six.

Speaker 18 (40:38):
Eh, if that be Kansas State, they might get seven.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
If they be Kansas State and Eico, they're don't get
nine or ten.

Speaker 18 (40:46):
Maybe, man, I don't know, it's weird, man. I'm watching
a lot of big twill football, which is hard for me.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
But all right, there's a lot of good teams then yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
thanks Nico, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Okay, anybody else want to call? Hey, Robert, were ready
for your call?

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Just come on in. More calls at least Tess, Ryan,
have Tony to save.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Us five two zero, four one, six, seventy four forty.
We'll try and we'll try and get you on without
a lot of dead air. So again, we're figuring this out.
But you know, we're going to kick this thing all
over the place all you know, the rest of the week.
You know what's going to happen, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Six and six. I don't think they're six. They kind
of look like a six and sixteam right now, I know, but.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I don't they Yes, they look like one, but I
don't think they are one. No, are they are they
a ten win team? They don't look like a ten
win team. No, I think they look like they can
be an eight and four team. I think right now,
based on what we've seen, I think there's more chance
that they're going to be an eight and fourteen than
a six and sixteam, just because I think the defense. Look,

(41:54):
I give away that first half against New Mexico State.
They've been good since then, right, they were really good
the second half of New Mexico game, and then they
were good Saturday night against.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
So if they don't get the running back back, uh,
you're okay.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Yeah, I liked what I saw last week. Those guys
were good and and speedy. Luke still just hasn't seen
the ball a lot. He well, he's got to not.
He's got to hang on to the ball.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Guess what, You've already established that reputation, you have it, Yes,
he's got that.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
You got to get rid of it somehow, somehow.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
I like what I see in the Patterson, the receiver,
and you know the on the return games. He's gonna
bust one or two this year, and and so I
think that we're going to see we're gonna see him
do some things that I don't know why he's going
to do. Him as a receiver, but he's certainly doing
those things as a as a you know, kick returner,

(42:50):
special team guy.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, okay, so I I you know, I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
We don't know who the other receiver and we not
see much from right. Uh, what's the lamonious craig?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Right? So the tight ends you have?

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Yeah, they they threw the tight ends all you know,
all day? All right, we got to call her coming in.
You're on the air and I on the ball.

Speaker 19 (43:18):
Hey, it's team money here and tooth what's going on?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
If you had to follow an ECO, didn't you tea money?

Speaker 13 (43:25):
Hey?

Speaker 17 (43:26):
So that that uh, that offensive line, man, I don't care.
I don't know what it's deal. It's scary, merit. He's
gone like I don't, I don't. I didn't know how
they got that guy through, you know, on campus anyway.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
But that that situation is, that's just the loss.

Speaker 17 (43:43):
Like just he's gone, Like I wouldn't even give that
guy a second thought. But the offensive line is the
key here and going in the season, I think, hey, man,
nine wins, ten wins, look at this, but these last
two games just taking the wind out of my sale.
And it's it's the old line. If Fafita can't figure

(44:03):
it out when he gets pressure, right, and that's that's
really disconcerting. Like I thought he was better than that.
It's comforting myself thinking maybe at COVID or something like.
It's scary.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's scary.

Speaker 17 (44:15):
And but for better or for worse, these last two games,
they're done. They're throwaways, and it really starts a case stake.
And it's going to be first quarter in Manhattan. If
if they're they're looking you know, like uh, deer in
the headlights, then it's gonna be a long season.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Well, I think when we were talking about them being
really good all along, it was gonna be if the
offensive line was good and held together and they didn't
have a lot of depth. And we're already seeing problems
with the depth and the defensive learning too. Right, Yeah, yeah,
so I think you know, but that team money, that's
the issue with any team, right. If your offensive line
is having injuries and guys are missing and guys are

(44:54):
out of position, you're gonna have a tough time to money.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
You said you're out of town, you're not team. So
did you go to the game.

Speaker 19 (45:03):
No, I didn't know how to do some other things,
but I mean I followed, and and uh it's is
one of those things where you know, after the game,
guys are saying, you know, the office didn't come to
play and things like that, it was just another.

Speaker 17 (45:17):
Late night Tucson stinker. And like it's it goes a
long way too, Like we talk about filling up the
stadium and doing these certain don't do that. Don't do that.
Don't let people feel like they wasted a Saturday night.
Yeah right, right, but uh yeah, it is a war

(45:37):
of attrition and it's whoever goes down first. And unfortunately,
you know, in the first two games, we're seeing our
O line be decimated. But uh yeah, hopefully, hopefully there's
a lot of hand ringing on my part, but unfortunately,
I don't think it. I don't think it's gonna come out.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
To see what happened. Okay, thanks, thank you, Tom. I
appreciate the call. Yeah, I think he's he's been realistic.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Yeah no, I don't blame team money or anybody else
who feels like he feels. I do not, you know,
I don't grudge him any of that. But the thing
is that, you know, there's a lot of football left
to be played. These games that are coming up. Now,
you know, there's there's not gonna you know, there's not
gonna be the well they they could just kind of
through the uniforms on the field against ANAU. That's not

(46:22):
going to be the case going forward. All the rest
of these games matter to these guys. So it's just
gonna be matter of do you have the horses you
need to win these games? And I think that's what
we're what we're waiting to find out.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
So this is what's this. This is not the time
we have left.

Speaker 20 (46:39):
No, we we were out at sixteen fifty seven. Okay, yeah,
we got Oh it's so oh that's the time of
the day. Yeah, that is a military time. That's a
clas military time, military time. I don't know what that
closs is military seven hundred.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
It's four fifty about to be four fifty one in
the afternoon our clocks, and we got to be out
at four fifty Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
That makes sense. I think we got a lot of time. No, okay,
we still got time for a call called Robert, if
you want to call.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Back, we still appreciate what well, yeah, we're trying to
save the conversation for you if you call about no
fa fida and and uh and and how much he
had to run around on Saturday night. But uh, I
know again, you know these fans who are we are
feeling like things aren't happening or it didn't look good
those first two games. I don't disagree with them. But

(47:31):
what I what I do believe is you got to
let this play out, and it will play out, and
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
That is the sensible reasonable guy. I haven't known five years.
Talk you're getting old in your time or whatever. You've
been reading gospel books or something.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
Yeah, I'm trying to fend off the people who think
that Arizona sucks.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I really am.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
I'm trying to fend him off because because I I
don't think you know, I don't think we know. I
don't think you know how good this team can be
or how bad it's going to be, if it's going
to be bad, and and so I'd say, just give it,
give it more time, to let this thing develop and
see what they look like the next two weeks or
the next two games.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
It's it's two games over a three week period. The
quieter gentler JA I like it.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I you know, I'll tell you what the fact that
this game is on Friday and they're the ones that
have to travel, I think that's a factor.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Well, and being there with a pretty good crowd, right,
I think I think this is going to be a
hard game to win on the road a place you've
never been to. And on top of that, if they
pull this off, you know what I'm gonna hear from
you on Monday. I told you. I told you so.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
You need to relax and guess what that could happen?

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Yeah, they could. They could win this game.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
They could get their faces beat in, or it could
be you know, a close game, you know, into the
fourth quarter or whatever, all of the above.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Any one of those things can happen based on what
we've seen this first.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
So listen soon for a second. That they that they
go to uh to t back like they did in
the first game. You're not gonna mind that.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
No, not at all, not all. Thrown the damn ball,
Throw the damn ball. Okay, we've got another collar. You're
on the air and I on the ball. You're on
the air.

Speaker 15 (49:21):
It's Robert calling you guys back.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Robert, thank you for calling back. What's your question, Robert?

Speaker 15 (49:27):
What is Fafita not supposed to run the ball? Is
I mean, is it going to be a pattern if
they blitz them or they come at from all the
time that we don't score, we don't move the ball.
I mean, if that is what's the word on that?
Is he not supposed to ramble and getting yards.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Or I think I think he can.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
I think that rather he didn't. You know, he's he's
not a big guy, so he's not you know, he's
not a speedst He's not Kyler Murray. He's not, you know,
one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
I think he can move around, uh, you know, when
he's under pressure. But he was under too much pressure
a lot of times on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
He was not thinking about moving forward. He was about
just trying to get out of the way, right.

Speaker 15 (50:09):
I understand that, But I mean that's gonna be a
teams are gonna key on that. And if they start
doing that and we're going to just sit there and
not score, we should have put up fifty to sixty
points on Nau And uh, I mean, is it gonna
be a thing where he's just running for his life
back there to not get you know, sack or get hit.
Do they have a I'm not saying to switch him,

(50:29):
and not not by any means at all, But if
the game gets like that, is it going to be
their quarterback that could runs the other the backup quarterback
that no, no, no, actually run the ball.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
No, I don't think. I don't think that.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
I don't think the offense is designed for that for him.
You know, even though the run pass option, he's he's
handing off the ball. He's not, uh you know, he's
not gonna He's not you know, what's his name, Lamar Jackson.
I mean he's he's handing off the ball. And look,
I mean he didn't he didn't run the ball last
year and he was highly successful, so you he doesn't

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have to have to be able to run to be successful.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Robert, what would you understand?

Speaker 7 (51:10):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
What grade would you give him two games in?

Speaker 15 (51:15):
I don't know, maybe a B minus?

Speaker 7 (51:17):
Right now?

Speaker 15 (51:17):
The team after the first B minus was talking.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
About what about the team? Did you go to the game?

Speaker 15 (51:24):
Oh? The team? I didn't go to the game, and
I was listening to him talking with my brother about it.
But uh, the team, the great for the team, I
think it's about a sea so far, because I mean
the defense played good one game, well one game, and
then the offense stump it up the next team. I
think they're average right now. I think I think they're
gonna get a lot better. But I just hope that,

(51:45):
you know, the thing of putting that much pressure on
Buffeta doesn't become a you know, season long thing, just
like with basketball, when they threw his own that the
airs on the wildcare basketball team, it's like we were
lost out there.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Well, Robert, thanks for the call. We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yeah, I appreciate it, all right, So okay, yeah again, yeah, again,
that one. I don't you know, they don't. I don't
think they want no for feet to running the ball.
I just don't for a lot of reasons. First of all,
I mean, he's quick enough to be a quarterback at

(52:22):
this level. He's not fast, and you don't want to
put him at risks, right And I think he's got
really good instincts.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Pocket awareness what they call it.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
But you know, the other night, you know he was
you know, he was turning around and getting away from
but then there was another guy right there. He just
couldn't get out of the rush. They were they were
they were killing him. They were, they were, they were
He had nowhere to go, He had nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
And so well, and you don't want to put him
in a situation where there's a chance that he could
get hit pretty heavily, you know. Yeah, so so I
wouldn't put him at risk, at least not now. No,
you can't let me see this. And I don't think
i've heard this yet. It's right or die with no.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, yeah, they're not. There's question right there. Yeah, no
it is.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
And and you you know, I, as a fan, I
don't want to see him put in harm's way in
that way. You know, they can run the ball without
him having to run it, then I'm all in on
that for one hundred percent. And and and you know
the passing game again, he didn't run the ball all
last year, right now. He escaped a few times, got

(53:34):
some yards, you know, even did that in the in
the New Mexico game, he had a run where where
he broke loose and he scrambled and and and he
got some yards, got it and got a first down.
If he does that, that's okay. But I don't want
any designed runs for him. He'll have to do that right,
you know, Uh, you know, I don't think he's a
guy that's going to do a quarterback draw. Give it
to the guys that you know, are built to run

(53:55):
the ball, and and that's the way I see that.
So I don't have any issues with him and not
you know, not running the ball at all.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, okay, Uh, we're going a little longer to.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Yeah, we got got about another minute. We've been asked
to go to near to the top of the hour,
so we're going to do that for We got about
another minute. I can't take any more calls, but Steve,
you know, we're gonna look, this is gonna be the conversation.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
All week long until they play another game to.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Tell them some some pretty good news that we've got today.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Yeah, well, yeah, we did get some good news.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
We're gonna be uh, we're gonna be doing our show
from Casino Dell Soul at the Sports Book once a month.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
This was the big announcement we were talking about.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
We're trying to figure out the number of days we're
gonna go on and we're trying to still trying to
figure some things out. We're gonna do it either on
a Thursday or a Monday to be able to you know,
lead into the NFL game on those days.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Uh, we're gonna do it one one time a month.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
We've just found out about this sort of got finalized
today and so we're gonna figure out that.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
We've been waiting for what days those are gonna be.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
So, so maybe you have a chance come and see us. Yeah,
we'll let you know plenty of time when we'll be
there exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
All right. I think that wraps it, So let's get
out of here. We'll see it all tomorrow, eh,