Wednesday, April 9, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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By on the ball here at Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today is Troy Hutchison
go as you cats. We got Juan with us and
we got Ray with us today. What Troy's not in yet?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
So?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Ay one?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
How you doing happy Wednesday? There must have been a
gift your jersey gift from my job. With the money
I are inn dia sure sell you you buy yourself
and that is a drink it sir? But uh preview
to breaking news. Arizona's the twenty twenty six National champions
Is it into the future?

Speaker 5 (00:47):
You do?

Speaker 6 (00:48):
You are?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Let's say the Tucson does the Twitter in the world,
the Twitter world and the Facebook world.

Speaker 7 (00:53):
Yeap?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Why you say that?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I believe Arizona recruited another five star to the recruiting class. Yes, so,
I don't know clearly that means Arizona is the national championship.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Next that's your deduction, not mine. But I believe it's
the most of the city of Tucson. You know who
you sound like who do you sound like?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Who?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I sound like me? Mister realistic, mister realistic. Got another guy,
which is great. They got uh Britain Buris. Uh, it's
a top ten guy. I think he's number eleven guy. Okay,
saw his press conference this morning. Didn't speak a whole lot,
just kind of in short sentences. Good for Arizona, Great

(01:39):
for Arizona because they've been waiting on him for a while.
Got a great class, you said, number two guys.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I believe the update was number one from from the
oh N three three h say it or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
I think Arizona's point zero eight better than Houston, and Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Is gonna be good man, Houston's gonna be good. Yeah. Okay,
So that and a nickel will get your nickel. I've
been doing this long time, and everybody who knows me
knows how much I hate recruiting. Now, they got to
get the pieces to fit. You got to coach them
and hope that they play well together. If Briant comes,
if he doesn't come back, Bradley, Bradley, all these guys,

(02:20):
so we'll see. I mean, chemistry is an issue. I'm
not trying to poo poo it. Congrats, congrats, but there's
more factors than just kidding the guys. You know, hell,
a few years ago, almost ten years ago, now they
got Stanley Johnson. Everybody was all happy that I didn't
go as well as planned. They got Well, the last
time it went really well is they got a guy,
got a guy named Bibby who eventually turned out to

(02:42):
be Bibby yep, and joined the group that was pretty
good and led him to a national title.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, give and take. You know, the whole part of
the sport. Your recruit players. You try to win a
national championship. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you
do right well, look at Houston, pretty good team. Right,
windows of opportunity don't happen very often Arizona, those windows
have been very few. Nice chances, but very few. So

(03:09):
we'll see what happened. I don't want to poo poo
it because.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's been it's a great get, but I think everybody
needs to be realistic and say, Okay, we got this guy,
now let's see what happens.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
It's very similar to the end of last season. Everyone
was excited that Caja was coming back. Love was in
the air. He eventually came back. Bradley was going to
be the starting point guard at that point. Crievas was
supposed to.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Be the starter. None of that. Brant was coming in
as a McDonald's All American.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Exactly, and it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows to start,
you know, four and five in mid December.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And that's exactly my point. You're making my point greatly here.
No matter if you have talent or not, it just
depends how they mesh, how they're coached, how things are.
There's one ball in all hell. Back in twenty seventeen
team they had eight and tree er Alkins Restick I
think it was, And honestly, people thought that was the
best team that's ever set foot on ULA campus. That

(04:10):
didn't go well from the start in Bahamas.

Speaker 7 (04:12):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Similar this year.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
But the difference is this year's team turned it around
right because they had to.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Right. Okay, Troy, what's up? Did you bring my uber eats?
That's why you're late?

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Heat in traffic? Man?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Do you have your your headphones? Do you have yours?

Speaker 8 (04:33):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay, no, no I haven't. Well let's well continue that.
People don't need to know what we're up to. Here.
I'll get them. I'll get them a break. Okay. Cool,
good to see you. Number one class to number two class.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
Number two class on rivals dot Com behind Duke okay,
holds the top spot.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, we already got a call. Hello, you're on the
airline on the ball. Who's this?

Speaker 6 (04:53):
Hey, it is VIC.

Speaker 9 (04:54):
I just had a call early, and and apologize to
your kids for you telling them Santa Claud wasn't real
four years old.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
I have a shirt my dad. But thanks for listening,
and thanks for paying attention, because I need to tell
guys like you that Santa Claus isn't real.

Speaker 10 (05:10):
Oh my god, like that.

Speaker 9 (05:13):
You can't even let him celebrate one day.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, they no, on the one's been paying attention.

Speaker 9 (05:20):
You know, Oh my god, wan, at least to your
cane one.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
You're supposed to know Santa Claus is believable. To your
ten Oh yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
It was until thirteen and then, you know, all all
of a sudden, Claus started to look like my.

Speaker 10 (05:36):
Dad, let me have this day.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, you had this day. You already texted me. I
kind of set you straight. Have this day. Hey, I'll
give you this day untill November seventh, when they had
their first game, and we'll see who stays, because you know,
there's still going to be transitioned, right, it's got to
be transitioned.

Speaker 10 (05:55):
Nah, we're we're fine.

Speaker 9 (05:56):
It's almost all built. They just got to wait to
see if Carter's coming back. And they probably need a
little backup Conrad g type guy, and.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
They're gonna be all right, you need better than Conrad.
You can't have Conrad again.

Speaker 9 (06:10):
Well no, no, I know that, but I'm saying, just
a backup point guard I think they're looking for and
they're gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
So Vic, well we have you on the phone real quick.
You've you've been through this many times, many years. I
know Troy has. In the recent times. Uh, there have
been some pretty good recruits. There is high heavens and
you know how how's that gone for you? But where
does this sit? Where's this sit?

Speaker 10 (06:32):
That's it's really good.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
Braiden's uh, he's legit, and I think Cold is pretty legit.
I don't know if they're gonna be that duke type
of guy, but they're gonna be real, real cloak, real
real cloak. And Braiden's definitely, uh, you're he's gonna step
in for Kleb and and do well.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
Yeah, you know, I think Braiden will be very good
on He's a high level score. But Cole Pete's the
guy of the circuit glass. I think will People will
be a top ten pick. What makes him that guy?
He's more of a small ford but power forward in
the NBA six' eight willing, passer can dribble in the,
post finishes at the. Rim, well great?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Defense is your?

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Comp hard to? Say right? Now that's hard to.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Say and who's a comp For?

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Burrys you know you're looking At He's he talks about
being Like Devin.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Booker so you know, WHAT i thought he looked LIKE
i hadn't really seen. HIM i saw him today on
the highlights before he does was the Kid cunningham and
he mentioned his. NAME i thought he even even ran like.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Him and you know, WHAT i don't think he's like
a guy Like Alonzo trier where he'll shoot you.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Don't, want, no, No he's he's a team team type of.

Speaker 10 (07:38):
Guy.

Speaker 9 (07:39):
Uh they won the whole thing and. Uh AND i
mean they beat The Harvard West lakes and The Notre
dames of the world In, california and that is not.
Easy but then you're. Right Stanley johnson won for state
titled In. California that's gonna Be he's gonna be. Legit
i've been following watching him the last two. YEARS i

(08:01):
know his high school, Coach Steve singleton really really. Well in,
FACT i texted him AND i, today you got a
place to stay all year?

Speaker 10 (08:10):
Long?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Nice, Well Santa claus is good for you till. Twelve
they will give.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
You two more.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Years you got, It, thanks thanks for calling. It, Yeah
so what's he in?

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yours?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Two?

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Second in yours terms of ranking? Ranking, Overall arizona is
number two Behind duke.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
And then in your in your areas of a personal
individual's second best shooting guard in this, class which is
what good enough for top, ten top, twelve number eleven.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
Twelve so that's what the kids are. Saying, yeah you,
know and, CoA he's the top ten. PLAYER i think
we have him at number seven right now. Nationally AND
i see. Why his thing, is you've got to be.
Aggressive he likes to be a willing, passer likes to
get everybody involved in kind of Like Carter. Bryant h
maybe a little bit, more but you need.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Those, guys you need those, guys because what guy's not
going to do? It do it? ALL i, mean, Look
caleb love you went through two years Of caleb loving
and and plus his heart and this year, was you,
know one of those. Years and last year, TOO i,
mean he had a great year last. Year AND i
don't know Is sweet sixteen good enough for you guys? Anymore? No,
honestly honestly what and Remember Santa claus IS i Guess

(09:18):
i'm still in the.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Building, Personally, YES i Think sweet sixteen is?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Okay, okay by what do you mean by? OKAY i
think IT'S i think it's a good.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Thing not many teams can say they go to The sweet,
sixteen or obviously sixteen teams every year, do but not
many can say that they do on a consistent.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Basis, Okay so you've been here all your, life And,
troy you've been governing this, too all your life of
covering this. Specifically but don't you think that at some Point,
arizona for its reputation by the fans or, whomever has to, Think,
okay we're better Than sweet. Sixteen now you don't go
it's Like i've gotten are not a Discussion maybe a

(10:01):
few years Ago, oh we're gonna be. Good we've won
a number of number Of pack twelve. Titles this and
that says you don't come To arizona to Win pack twelve.
Titles you go To arizona to win a. Title So
i'm not poop poo. POO i think he's done a great,
job fantastic, job AND i think he'll continue to do
a fantastic.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Job but Our sweet sixteen is good enough. ANYMORE i
don't think. So to be, HONEST i Think i'll get him.
THIS i think this was his best coaching job that
he's done well At. Arizona you took a team that
start off four and, five look kind of, clunky looked
like the pieces didn't. Fit all of a, sudden they
make a run in The Big. Twelve they finished top
four in The Big. TWELVE i think number. Three they
make the run to The big twelve title. Game you

(10:40):
figured it. Out and outside Of, houston who Beat. Duke
you Gave duke their best basketball game of.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
The seasones and you Gave houston some run for their. Money,
right he did.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
Too so you're right there with two teams that you
can make a legitimate case to win the national. Title
if it wasn't for a call here or miss basket,
here or, heck If Caleb love doesn't get his shot
blocked down by four when he took that quick trigger,
three that was probably going. In so who knows what
would have. Happened but you battled your way. Back but
is the sweet sixteen the? Standard?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
No?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Sweet the standard should be a late, aids final fours and.
Whatnot but they haven't been to that in such a long.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Time and to my, Point, juan this is the top what?
Program top what all? Time or? No, no, no in
the last five, years top? Fifteen, okay so they can
get to sixteen and then that's, it, right they do
what they, Do, Okay SO i guess in that, case
you KNOW i was A b student IF i got AN, A,
okay you Know i'm A b. STUDENT i am WHAT i.

(11:33):
Am but these, GUYS i think you're you're hoping for,
better aren't?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Exactly you're Hoping arizona's A b program or my, Opinion.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah i'll take it's Called, yeah let's do that real.
Quick although you're on the air nine in the ball who's?

Speaker 10 (11:45):
This this Is? Brian how you?

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Doing?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Brian? Good? Good you've got about two.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
Minutes, Okay i'm, sorry But sweet sixteen is not good in.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
That you, know people who've been around a. LOT i
think it was okay twenty years, ago it's not anymore.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
RIGHT i, mean you, know, OKAY i you, know we've
been around for the first final, four AND i was
around for the very first final.

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Eight, yeah you know when That snowden.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
Days you, know when they PLAYED. Ucla BUT i mean
it's got to a point everybody, says, well we get
To sweet, sixteen it's pretty. Good, no we have to
Get this.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Is arizona and if we think we are one of these.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
Blue bloods yes that people talk, about we need to
make that next step up to the eight and.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Four and that's that's kind of What i'm, saying exactly
What bill right, saying exactly what you're. Saying because you're
gonna say, it you better do, it.

Speaker 10 (12:38):
RIGHT i, mean you, KNOW i like the recruiting, class
BUT i want to see what he's going to fill
around the recruiting, class because these guys aren't going to
play forty minutes every. Game you, know we need other
people who know their, jobs know what they have to,
do who can step in for five ten minutes a
game and not be a detriment to the.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Team, yeah what does? Happen and that's what we have to.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Find he does have potentially some of those. Pieces, again
What Jayden bradley decides to. Do Tobyo waka has a second,
Year you're looking At. Krevas you know he might, transort
he might. Not you never know what players. Nowadays but
the key to, everything in my opinion is what Does
Carter brian do because from that point, on that's where
you pivot and, Decide, okay what do we get in the?
PORTAL i know they're looking at A San Francisco dawn player.

(13:22):
FRESHMAN i think he was six to seven, average like
nine ten points a. Game but he's long and lengthy
And Carter brian's. Long so they're looking.

Speaker 10 (13:29):
At Carter brian hasn't come out and Said i'm going
to test the.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Waters i'm WONDERING nba.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Draft i'm wondering if nil has something to do with,
it because you could be making a ton of money.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
For, Sure AND i think also he comes from a
very smart. Family that's a very smart. Guy and you know, What,
yes top twenty is, great but when you look at
the potential of next season being the guy on the.
Roster even with this awesome freshman, class you go from
top twenty to top ten real.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Quick, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
You, Know, OKAY.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
I just think that if you want the other other
teams that, played.

Speaker 10 (14:06):
You, know got into eight and into the.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Four not only they have their five, starters but they
have quality. Backups and that's that's a huge, key you.
KNOW i, LIKE i just didn't feel a lot of
times that we, brought you, know just going seven. Deep you,
KNOW i think get that higher, level you're going to need.

Speaker 10 (14:23):
To go eight to nine deep and have quality. Players
but the problem you're going to have is are you
going to bring in the guy who's going to SAY
i want to. START i don't want to be sitting
on the bench just coming in for five ten minutes a.
Game those are the players that are harder to, find
and those are the ones That Tommy lloyd has to
beat the bushes for and try to.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Find, yeah, yeah no. Question and if he says he's
been here four years, now he talked About houston laston
when they're in town, here talked About dave establishes over.
Time over, time at some point you got to turn
that turn that corner and say it's our. Time, okay thank,
you thanks you for to. Call good, call appreciate.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
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Speaker 3 (14:59):
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Store steve Rovera p's got his eye on the ball
On Tucson sports Station Fox sports fourteen.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Fifty, hey welcome back to tying about here On Fox
sports fourteen. Fifty I'm Steve, rivera Your Troy hutchison Your
juan and Your. Ray anybody want to. Call we have
the time and this, hour next hour we're gonna have
who we having On? Kevin, yeah, Yes i'm this morning.
Story he's gonna come. On he'll talk about a lot
of the same, things having been, there done that right

(20:27):
and recruiting and all. That so anybody want to call
five two zero four, one six seventy four, forty we'd
appreciate your call to get us to the first. Hour.
Uh i'm not trying to poop poo. It i'm just
kind of like to level, headed kind Of, okay great,
time he's doing a fantastic. Job two months, ago what
were people ON x and everywhere else saying he can't
pull this? Off, HONESTLY i think that's what he's supposed

(20:51):
to be, fired right if he doesn't get these, guys, YadA.
YadA he's not good enough to get these. Guys and
now everybody's happy. Happy uh so kind of don't Who.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
In terms of the, FAMILSE i mean you get to sweet,
sixteen it's like, Cool but.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well let me tell you that had they been blown
up By, duke, yeah people would have been. Best but
how they played and how they finished up the season
Every this was a great, year a great season for,
sure same. Circumstances last year they go To clemson The sweet,
sixteen get beat and everyone's. Upset, true but different though different.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
Circumstances, yeah AND i think THAT i think that's the
frustrating part Of arizona fans is over the, years you've
seen programs Like, clemson you see programs LIKE Fau. MICHIGAN
i Know michigan's good at. Basketball bet in my, opinion
year in the year, out Not arizona's. Level we'll just
throw an out. House they random, Programs, yeah get to
A final four in the last twenty seven, years and

(21:46):
Yet arizona can't get to an elite eate and the
last what was your?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Point what was your? Point, well you've made a good. Point,
well you know you say you don't try to poopy on,
this but it's. Realistic and these college better stop interrupting.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
Me it's a Sign.

Speaker 10 (22:06):
Steve how you, doing?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Buddy what's? UP a couple of.

Speaker 10 (22:11):
Things first of, ALL i think from a fan, PERSPECTIVE.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
I just enjoy watching.

Speaker 10 (22:18):
This team compete year in and year. Out, YES i
would love to see them in the final, fourth but
you have to look at how many times Did luke
get close and then was out in the first. Round
AND i Think Tommy lloyd is just done a phenomenal.
Job AND i tell you one thing about college sports
THAT i really sort. Of it's become basically semi. Pro

(22:43):
and you have young men and women for that, matter
that can go into the pros and they can't even
go to enjoy a beverage with their teammates if they go.
PRO i think they miss excuse, me they missed the
opportunity to enjoy being young and being in, college being

(23:07):
part of. Something AND i remember WHEN i was seventeen
i joined The. NAVY i didn't have a. Clue, now
it was a much different structure back in those. Days
but at the end of the, day there's still seventeen
eighteen year old young men and women that are trying
to all of a, sudden we're trying to make them.

(23:29):
Adults they're mentally not there. Yet AND i THINK i
really wish that college basketball would do what football. Does
it makes them play two years in. College if they're
going to go to, college then you have to play two.
YEARS i think this gives the athlete a much better
opportunity to, mature to get to know, themselves their, teammates

(23:53):
and understand what team is really all. About the money has,
really in my, opinion gotten so far out of. Control
WHERE i heard the other, day now you have to
pay an agent before you can talk to a young
athlete to recruit.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
THEM i, mean.

Speaker 10 (24:11):
That's obscene and it's totally what's the word amateur In
french means to love and it takes to me and
THEN i guess Maybe i'm feeling my age a little bit,
here but it's really too, bad, uh to see these
young people and all of a sudden they're being pressured

(24:32):
like they're adults because they're making some. Money, mentally they're still.
Young they still need the mature AND i will excuse
me my allergies to killing me. HERE i would love
to see them have to play at least two years
in college.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Basketball, thanks all, right let it go.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
There, okay you, know you look at, that AND i
get what people are, saying but let's not act like
they weren't getting paid. Before it's just all out in
the open, now, right it's the. SAME i mean it's
not exactly the, same but they were doing this under
the table for. Years you're going back to the seventies and.
Eighties it's nothing. New now it's out in the. Open

(25:13):
and who are you to, say, hey you know, WHAT
i know you want to go to. COLLEGE i KNOW
i want you in college and. Everything but that million
dollar idea you have over there to start a company
or go pro or whatever it, is don't do it?

Speaker 10 (25:24):
Now?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, wait yeah you. Can there's a lot.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
Of people that started a, company made millions and never
went to.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
College my elemonade stand didn't hit, off SO i had
to come back go to. School your thoughts before you, know.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
The college trying to get this in you said you
were trying to poop poo.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
What, Yeah Tommy lloyd has done and he's.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Done he's done a fantastic, job especially given the first
four years of being a brand new head. Coach, yeah but,
realistically we talked about this before the. Show Since arizona's
first national, championship there's two other programs that have won.
Three does that not make you buy those standards of
b Program and.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
We talked about that in Their yukon And yukon And
florida In florida three, yes, right because they won in
the mid and both schools ended up winning back to
back at one, point, yeah and then a lot Of
butler's been back to the final four a couple of,
times game.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Twice so by, standard sweet sixteen is probably THAT b, range,
right we're just waiting for THAT. A fans want THE a,
grade BUT. B it's not something to be sniffing about.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
It you gotta, yeah if you if you gotta finally
break through and be consistent with. It and they had
what the leit eight Under, miller a couple of them
three times in the stress FIVE i think it's first
five for seven, years whatever it, was and then it
just went went south after, that.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
And they were a couple of sweet sixteens where they
were shot away from getting to another lead eight and
to elite eates from a shot away from the final.
Four but you're not even at that. End people were
getting frustrated With Sean miller in terms of why can't
you get to the final? Four why Can't now it's
The sweet sixteen is the. Hurdle but YET i would,
say even Though sean got there, QUICKER i think the

(26:58):
health of the, program the development of the, program and
the development of the players is better than it.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Was without. Question then that's a great. POINT i wouldn't
even think, that but that's a great point BECAUSE i
agree the consistency has helped with, that and it's just
a feel better. Program, yeah back then it was like
they're good kind of but there it's.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
Chaotic it's kind of like. Toxic oh, yeah toxic work.
Environment you, know a hard. EDGE i would say.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Hard but that's. Yeah the phone calls coming from inside the.
House you, know it was one of those what's the?
Issue what it calls coming? From the problems from inside the?
House sweeping for.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Bugs you're not doing that anymore.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
People, Right, well, yeah And tommy's got that. Attitude we're
gonna work your butts, Off we're gonna play. Hard we're
gonna try to make it everybody, happy but not trying
to make every, happy but you, know everyone's going to
be on the same, page moving in the right.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
Direction and you, KNOW i felt like this year was
the first time we ever saw kind of a, heart
like a hardness To, tommy a kind of very much
edge to, him very much media towards the fans a
lot of the. Time was that a good? THING i?
DO i THINK i think it helped him develop as
a coach in what. SENSE i think he was kind
of soft over four. Years, yeah you know it's like you, know,

(28:16):
yeah we lost and. Whatever now it's, no like we
need to start. Winning this is the standard of the.
Program and well here's the. Issue though the target was not.
Us the target should be. Us, no and it always
is directed Where, yeah but the.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Think, offunny think about? Us who's the? Target who's who's the?
Target if it's not? Us, well national media if it's not,
that if it's not like you guys think you're gonna
get you guys think we're gonna get, her ask. Kicked
you could give a crap if you get your.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
Story it's the family is BECAUSE i think they they
questioned and you and you've seen it like The kansas.
Game The kansas. Game, oh look at all these fans
here and like they stay for the wish we had
this at.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
McHale but he, yeah, no and that's you know what
he was spot on with one spot. On you went
to the, game, Right, Yeah and is that the same
as this? Place, no not even close is?

Speaker 7 (29:06):
It And michael used to be a lot better ten
fifteen years. Ago, Yeah and it's a chaotic. Mess, Now
i'll say it like it's it's very, underwhelming, now, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Because you've seen. It i've seen it for thirty some
years and, there let me tell, you when they have
the big games in there's nothing like. It it's. Fantastic
one who sits next behind, ME i think we looked
at each other before the game started is, look this
is what we're looking you, know.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
This is the crowd for the conference Favorite houston coming to.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Town, right pretty.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
Disappointing, yeah and there was, like what four thousand seats
still to be filled with five minutes left through. IT
i get.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
It and that's what he's talking. About and that's. Exactly
and you, know five, minutes with two minutes, left one,
minute with two minutes into the, game they're. In they're.
In but that's not what he's talking. About he's talking
about get, early get, there be, ready let's.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
Go we went to Do how loud was it in
pregame warm?

Speaker 10 (29:56):
Ups it was.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
CRAZY i had knees in the back of my, head
back in my. Back, yeah it was it was fine to.
Me my best price Was. Stanford what there was going
to Pay stanford With montgomery those kids were. Crazy their
bonkers or. Smart they were clever and the floor was.
Bouncing duke was second to that Even oregon And Matt
cork was. Fantastic BUT i know you had to Experience

(30:17):
duke just because you had to Experience.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Duke May poles or whatever it's. Called now For, stafford
that's not the same exactly In, oregon even though they
have a nice, area it's not it's not the old.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Man let me say this, THOUGH i don't think and
we know we're kind of switching. SUBJECTS i don't know
how arizont to fix. It it's the same people in
the same.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
ARENA i think there's two things and one thing they're
not going to do for sure with the. Kids you
move the. Kids you moved them center, court not not
behind the. Bench, NO i got, IT i got. It
But i'm saying on the opposite, side not behind the,
benches BECAUSE i think behind the benches you're asking for. Problem,
yeah you know you have THE byu incident now times
that by ten with somebody behind the. Bench but on

(30:58):
the opposite. Side put the fit kids right. There but
they're not going to do that because they want to make.
Money number two is the stadium lighting.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Things, oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah, twine you were, saying, yes.
Yeah there was actually one of The Barstol arizona. Page
there's a.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Pole WHERE i, asked Would McHale center be better with,
lighting more lighting or is it find the?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Way it was overwhelmingly we need more.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
LIGHTS i think it lulls you to, sleep it really.
Does it lacked. Out you have a bunch of people
sixty five and above and you're just, like you, know.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's it's a blacked out arena at nine.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
O'clock, yeah with these late tip, offs but remember tip
tip offs. Matter but yet seven o'clock game Against utah
and nobody showed up either. Exactly SO i DON'T i
don't want to hear about times.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Anymore, NO i. KNOW i wouldn't have it like a
mix of the women's audience just because they're crazy and
bunkers in there, loud but there's a lot of kids
in there and they scream just because and there's no
kids really In mikale for men's. Basketball it's a tough.
Fix it's a tough. Fix it just like the. Football
we talked about football and the sound. Horrible, uh there's

(32:06):
so many things you can fix in that football.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
STADIUM i NEVER i never used to believe this. Theory
but now after being there for so long and watching
games there as a, Reporter first of, all it's not
as good as what it once was in the mic
stoops are They that place was pretty? Solid they need
to Reduce Arizona? Stadium?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah what is the, Now San? Diego did you go
to the? Game? YEAH i? Did? Yeah perfect size of.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
STADIUM i think you do a little bit, bigger but
around THAT i think already forty four five.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Forty fill it, up make it sound great and tighten
it up.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
A, little make it. Up, yeah add add backs to the.
Seats you know how many? People, yeah you know how
many people complain about the? Bleachers AND i guess you,
like if your.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Son where are you getting this money?

Speaker 7 (32:51):
From? Yeah that's the.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Problem, sorry that's the. Problem isn't walking through that? Door would?

Speaker 4 (32:57):
You would you like backs to this on the bleachers
Or Braden Berry's that's the real.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Question, NOW i don't Think Brandon burdy's is getting you
back on the. Bleachers backs on the bleachers in a football?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Tea, Yeah so let me too with this incoming, group
their window is one. Year everything's one. Year you have
one year of opportunity because guess what they're going to
be a year for one.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
Year, well and not not only, that BUT i think
every year is one, year no matter the group that
you bring in because the transfer. Portal, sure sure you can't.
Rely it's almost LIKE Pema. College now your roster changes
year to, year and that's just the case of college.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Basketball, well you better make sure that bullet is a,
good strong. One they can hit the.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Target like, dude they had one year and they almost
said if they Beat, HOUSTON i think they win the.
Title no, SHIT i.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
DON'T i WHEN i Had florida all the, WAY i,
Said i'd rather have them Face duke Than utah Than
houston Because houston is that Holy craft team that just
could beat you in so many different, ways especially by bullying.
You duke couldn't do. That duke couldn't do.

Speaker 7 (33:56):
That, no BUT i think they're good enough offensely Where
florida would have a hard time defending all the options out.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
There we have the fact that the matters Go.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Gators oh, yeah at the end of the, day you're.
Right but my point is they had one, Bullet they
got to A final, four and this upcome. Year they
have that bullet. Again Cameron boozer is a. Monster, yeah, yeah,
yeah you're gonna be. Well, see that's what special Bout.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Duke they have that one bullet every time coming, in
every time coming. In how many bullets is AREASON i
had in the last, fifteen well thirty twenty seven. Years
Mike bibby was a bullet and it proved to be.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
Accurate uh near two thousand and. One that was two
thousand and, One Richard. Gilbert that, ROSTER i, mean.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It's still the best team they've ever had there in my.
Mind and that bullet got there right there until it
didn't right until it. Did how many Bullets.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
CELINE i would, Say, see they don't joke Against. ILLINOIS
i think they have a shot shot to win the.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Title, OKAY i have one maybe, controversial but That Aaron gordon,
Year oh for, Sure Brandon ashton doesn't get.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Hurt yeah, yeah and they and that bullet was a
pretty damn good.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
Bullet that's to, me that's the best defensive Team i've ever.
Seen they were fully healthy, here.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
YES i DON'T i don't remember that.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Team that, defense they were number one in the country
and defense With ashley With Ashley Gordon, Parzuci Nick, johnson H. T. J. McConnell,
yeah oh, yeah yeah they Were i'll give you.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
That i'll give you. That and circumstances of. Events.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
Yeah even the following, year everybody thought they had a.
Bullet Stanley johnson he Lost wisconsin. Again, Yeah Derek, williams
would you count that as a? BULLET i, THINK i
THINK i.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Know that was that was a secret, bullet because for
sure it was a secret. Ball you didn't expect anything
like that and it just. Happened BUT i, mean you
can't went on to. Winning they Beat. BUTLER i Think
arizona could have Beat, butler but it's not a preseason.
BULLET i still THINK i can Get Christy, brinkley but
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Speaker 3 (42:31):
Four, hey welcome back to the mark here On Fox.
Sportsports you, Gufty I'm Steve, rivera You're Troy. Hutchison we've
got one and we got. Ray let's dabble into the
women's program a little uh is you, know we're not
experts in the. Field maybe maybe you, are but it's
it's chaotic and we're Like day ten held. HOSTAGE i
don't know what data, is but you know What i'm,
saying it's a.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
MESS i MEAN i haven't covered the team really that
hard in the last two, YEARS i would, say but
just from where they were that title game one shot
away to where you are. Now it's nine and day
and if somebody told you after that title, game, hey
it is going to be gone in four years and
the program is going to be a kind of a train.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Wreck, oh you'd never. BELIEVE i never believed they would
get to that. Level first of, all, no exactly to
be unbelievad taken to major, heights, right everybody's in that
building loving that, team loving, her and then she gets
there and you're, thinking how did this? Happen and look
at the magic and then, now but did you see her,
partying partying thoughts on the.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
Team in the, PROGRAM i kind of saw a little
bit of. IT i kind of scrolled.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Through, yeah. Letter it was a, nice very thought out,
letter very, good very cursory On. Desiree you, Know i'm
supporting you the end and it was, like, yeah just you,
know what's she going to? Say there's so many pieces
to this, puzzle so many, players a lot of it's

(43:54):
a huge.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
ONION i was gonna, say have you ever Seen? Shrek
you got a peel, onion layers of the ONION a
way at the, time it, is.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
And every and everyone has another one that is affected
by the other. One it's it's so many, things and
it would be too long to in this two hour.
Program but at the end of the, day it's invariable
that people say it's something that had to have. Happened,
yeah it's you, know both, sides both sides for the
betterment of both. Sides this had to.

Speaker 7 (44:22):
Happen it was kind of like a ripping off the band. Aid, Yes,
yes even though there's no doubt in my mind and
there's no argument she's the greatest one in this basketball
Coach arizona's ever Had yes period that a terrific job
got it to new. HEIGHTS i never thought people and
to some would care about women's basketball and tell what she.
Did AND i Know Joan, bonnesley he had a great,
career but it wasn't at that. Level, no, no of,

(44:42):
course but towards the end of, it you could, tell
you know, what it's weighed on. Her it's not working
well for, her it's not working well for the. Program
you need a separation and you just need to start,
fresh break it all down for both. SIDES i.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Agree SOMETHING i wanted to talk About monday if if
they had a show that went smoothly was the fan.
Base this was a fan base that got behind. Idea, yeah. Strongly.
Sure before this, SEASON i was able to do a
story on just the fan base how they, felt and
they almost every single one of them, said we love A,
Dea we love A, Dea we love the way she

(45:17):
coaches and the way she. Interacts it was it was loot, like, yeah,
Yeah so now what happens to that fan, Base, well
do they come?

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Back do they support whatever comes in? Next, well they're
gonna have. To they're gonna have. To but to your,
point the loyalty is there will they continue it if they,
win they, will but it's gonna take some. Time but good.
Point good point because a lot of the loyalty was For. Idea.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
Yeah well because during that we saw during that AN
I t, run they come out and support the. Team
she was a one hundred percent not a, salesman but
like you, know she was the, pitchment pitching, it and
you got seven, thousand eight thousand nine sold out stadium
for THEN i T i would never think that would.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Happen here's another, Issue, idea AND i think you'll agree with.
Me troy started to believe the press. Clippings, yeah you,
KNOW i did this and she did the thing about.
It you have to believe the press confers because they were.
True you know she did, this and then, okay but
you can also mess.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
This up when you get to that height and that,
quickly and you did it in a way where everybody's,
like you know, what you need more, offense it's not
going to, work and you do a big middle finger
to everybody you saw ON espn she did the middle
that was directed to everybody doubting. Her let's be, honest
but you do it and you're, like you know What
i'm good at WHAT i, do and then you start

(46:37):
to really believe, that and you get that, stubbornness you get.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
How did how did we talk about the players that
left the defections over the? Years what about the? Assistance
i'm sure there were a.

Speaker 7 (46:49):
Few, number large. NUMBER i felt like a rotating door
the assistant coaches spot outside of her Husband savo, players
countless transfers in and.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Out that doesn't have it by.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Accident, No and this is before the portal was like
a major thing that went is college basketball and it's
like people, are, well it's happening. Everywhere it wasn't at that. Time,
yeah SO i Think i'll give you this. Ship would
things have been differently?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Since you think THAT ua would have won the title
back when people were not getting hurt, whatever if he
was still THE A d what would what would have?
HAPPENED i think he would have given in to whom
she would still be. Here, YEAH i, agree BUT i
don't know if it would be good for the.

Speaker 7 (47:33):
PROGRAM i, mean clearly when he was saying AND i
like day a good, guy but clearly there's financial.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Issues right right?

Speaker 7 (47:40):
Right how many people were you giving let's wipe that?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Stuff, away BUT i know they're. There, yeah had he been,
here she'd still be. Here she'd still be. Here AND
i think the money, situation, well let's assume there was.
Money there's still the money. Situation keep the money. Situation
would she be under the? Conditions, well, idea you, know
we love, you we gave you this. Money can you
drive it back a little and maybe we'll do it
on the back end or.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
SOMETHING i think there would have been a better negotiating
table in terms of open communication of how to get
that contract. Done there are a lot of issues with
the contract in terms of the, money the revenue, share
and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
That that was a big stickler because we had her
on the show last year at this time and she
threw that out And jay AND i were looking, like holy,
crap this is a big.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Deal you, know your most elite programs and when it's
college basketball or out that five percent, slot you Can
baylor and so on and so. Forth. Arizona, sure but
but they, win but they, win but, yeah and they
Went not only do they win and get to the,
tournament they win. Titles, Ye and you've been struggling to
get to the. Tournament and when you, do your two
rounds and. Gone so that two, percent three, percent whatever

(48:46):
the number, was kind of fit what you were. Doing
but you, know in her, defense you want to get,
players you want to keep getting. Players, Yeah, era THEN
i L i get. It SO i think there would
have been better communication between her And dave how to
equal out that number between the two.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
And nothing That i'm not a money's, Guy i'm A,
YEAH i see. IT i think circumstances would have been,
different but they're. Not and and and Now i'm not
gonna defend Des ray because it's not my place to.
Defend she's the the a D she came into to
a situation where they're forty five million dollars down, RIGHT
i guess they're gonna be flush or not, flush at
least even in the next, year in a. Year so

(49:24):
there's that she's lost some pretty Good arizona people that
have been here. Forever they also they were here, forever
and we're part of the, situation part of the bad.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
Situation, YEAH i, mean everybody hates to see people. LEAVE
i get. It. Yeah not that the department shrunk from
whatever the number was in terms of employees to the
number it is, now and the fact of the matter
is to make an. Onliney you gotta crack. Snakes and
if you.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
If you were gonna be THE A, d if you
you could have been THE A. D Troy, hutchison what
are you gonna? Do you're gonna have to do a
lot of the things that she. Did, yeah anybody who
got that.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Job there are some MOVES i don't agree. With people
aren't Gonna people aren't gonna like you all the.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Time live With, hey you've been following me. Around you're
on the? Phone uh WITH i on the? Ball who's?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
This?

Speaker 8 (50:14):
Okay steve And, troy what's? Up, Okay i'll start with
Uh vic And. Rick they're right on the money what they.
Said BUT i will differ From Rick rick in particular
saying We're grade Eight final four type of. Team that's
HOW i think totally pencils in there for not we

(50:36):
we we're not Because tommy is so good and we
do have to dip in the portal to fill out
the people that. Left and He's tommy is such a good.
COACH i, mean in my, opinion like three times the
coach for men that the idea was for. Women And
i'm glad That, troy you guys were talking that BECAUSE

(50:57):
i didn't know there was that many defections except blah
blah blah for. Men, no, yeah for idea.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
For her, staff yeah, yeah her. Stuff Yeah, no that's
been noted for through the. Years that just doesn't, happen
you know What i'm.

Speaker 7 (51:12):
Saying, yeah and you know WHAT i, again she had
successful for her. Husband they did a great, job but
it must it can't be easy working for somebody with
them and their. Spouse where, hey we do it this,
way this, way we're gonna do. It what about this. Opinion,
WELL i don't care about your. Opinion we're gonna do
it our. Way, yeah job, great it's hard to work

(51:33):
with his.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Spouse that wasn't.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
Good i'm glad we're out of. That that was that's not. Good,
okay right off the, bat you guys talking like, That
BUT i actually hammered. Her i'm glad she's going out
the door BECAUSE i put, Down, yeah she's really fifty
percent of the. Job she's good at the x's and,
o's but she's not good at the other, part the
new portal and nil and the other stuff and managing the.

(51:57):
Girls you, know their drama. Done the, team so she's
good with text, ows but the other fifty percent she's.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Not good at the.

Speaker 8 (52:06):
Job And i'm Glad desiree being a, woman she can see.
That and don't let the door hit you on the
ass as you.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
Leave, okay so, opinion.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Thank, you thank you for phone send letters to some
letters Of howard not to. Me, Okay i'll leave that one. Alone,
YEAH i would leave that. Alone there's so much there.
Though you know we talked about the. Layers, yeah he
needed a fresh fresh coat of.

Speaker 7 (52:32):
Paint and and you know what for all the people, saying,
oh she left FOR smu and then she's probably getting,
more she ain't get any more money AT. Smu, again
this is her new contract was going to be less
than when she was making right, now AND i guarantee
you it's not what she's making AT.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Smu have you paid attention To, twitter into Into, facebook
all the comments from, People.

Speaker 7 (52:51):
No, NO i kind of, gods you're lucky.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Because everyone has a three let's move on from. It
and then who were talking about? It BUT i just
want to get it out of the.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
Way it's a.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Topic, yeah we'll see what, happens because what's Today? Wednesday,
uh they've got to hire somebody here pretty. Quickly they
have nobody on that roster unless maybe.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
One and still you're saying Something i've been trying to
keep track. Of Is montea Do she's still on the
roster on The arizona, Website she's the only player.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
There AND i have a question with that BECAUSE i
know she's dealt with her injuries AND i really haven't
covered the team, weekend day in and day out. Recently
has she been effective this?

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Season not THAT i, saw, okay but she's gonna be
going to your junior. Year she has experience as far
as she's been. Here she's she is a veteran in
the college.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
World so is she.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Someone that once the hires, made once players are in
that maybe fans will look to, say, oh she's been
she knows What arizona is. About so we're gonna go
ahead and trust. Her she's decided to stay regardless of coaching.
Situation she stayed with her. Zone is that something that
the fan base that was behind A dea can get.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Behind? Yeah, sure loyalty and all, that, sure of, Course
but she's the lone ranger and she better be good
because if you're not, good you're seeing it day on the.
Bench what's the, point you, know how can you have
an idol when the idols you, know candy out. Towels,
yeah it'll be, interesting it'll be. Interesting, YEAH i.

Speaker 7 (54:20):
Want to throw out one. Idea do we have? Time,
okay so the COOKING sertce isn't going well and they're
not going to do, This but it's just my crazy.
Thought Pima winnings basketball has been a high level program
for a long, time right, Right todd Hold, House let's
say three hundred, thousand a lot more than What pema's you,
know giveing. Them then you get the rest of the
money for staff in terms of, recruiting developing and all,

(54:41):
that and let him go to. Work famos fan base
won't like, it but he has a track record of
winning where you have multiple players coming in and out
of the. Programs set about it and guess what you?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Need you need something to save you right. Now and
not that this could save, you but it could at
least give you some more time to figure it out
down the, road could that?

Speaker 7 (55:00):
IoT?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah? Yeah and what do you have to lose?

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Exactly and this is someone that's pretty, local, yea why
not trust a local?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Guy, Yeah rosboro, knows the, knows the building knows the. Game,
yeah maybe it. Translates, yeah you're, right it's not gonna.
Happen it's not gonna. Happen but what what a what
a cool thought.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
There it, is but it won't happen to.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Me we're seeing The Santa. Claus it was Like freeze
coming Really.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
Brenda Free oh yeah yeah no with With Brenda freeze
terrific coach has won in the title At. Maryland would
she like to be back into some maybe one day,
maybe but you're gonna have to pay what you paid
the day one point. Too and that's not happening because
you were just taking that money away from A.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Da you're not going to do, that so you got
to go right, Right thank, you RING i will come.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
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