Wednesday, July 23, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Steve now went five to two oh four one six
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
Ford, Hey, welcome back to I'm a ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Steve Rivera, you're blake Eager. It's
a little different working on this side of the fence,
this Eager. Yeah, I gotta pay a test this.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
I'm gonna go shout out to my uh, one of
my close friends, John Gordon's birthday today, So happy birthday, Johnny.
He's a he's a big soccer guy, so you you
probably hate him. No, I follow that stuff too.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Side.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I took the guys out one and Ray out to
see two sons. They're uh, there're seasons over, so are
the sugar schools. Yeah, you know, now we just look
forward to the fall sports. Well, you get the indoor
Football Championships coming next month, a week a month from now, much, right?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
So Jay? You know Jay, right, you've been on the
show with Air.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, I've never been on the shade. Now you don't
allow us to talk to each other. Yeah, you guys
don't want to know each other. He's the pr guy
now for that. So in the in the next month,
I'll have that game here. Hopefully people will show up
for that. That's what I'm sure they made. Some promises
were said, we'll have some people go attend that game.
They got to put the word out. I'm I'm I'm

(01:21):
not gonna say a word.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay. Well, you know, how's that garment thing going. Yeah,
it's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
We gotta have somebody else, someone else November, right, November fifteenth. Yeah,
I'm pretty excited about that. We have a we have
that going in town.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Then you have the gravel Race down in Douglas Borderlands
Gravel Races, which is a really big event they do
down there.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's right along the border. They it's it's really it's
a great event. Okay. And then do you do anything
with the Wilcox Flyer and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, but I mean we do a ton with Coaches
County obviously they're part of our six counties.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, so you're busy doing that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, but uh yeah, I mean it's going well, it's
just you know, it's exciting to have a company like
Garmin uh in Tucson doing an event at this level.
And hopefully it's going to continue to grow and get
bigger and maybe helped put us on the map for running.
We're already on the map for multiple sports, but I
don't know if we're on the map anymore for running
out outside of Opdi and Bernard.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Right, you know, right, In fact, I should have reached
out to coach Murray, yeah, to help us because we
hadn't had haven't had him on.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I can get Obdion too if you want me to.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, we've had him on before when he was
inducted to the People County Hall. Tha, I mean that story.
Did he tell the story of how he started and
where he came from and like just on, Yeah, there
should be a movie be made, right, No, he is
a movie. Yeah, they found you can run. What he
came out to He was at MCCA College. He was
watching guys run track and asked the coach if he

(02:45):
could run. Came out and like boots and jeans and
like just destroyed everybody. I think I have seen this
movie and goes the way, and then I thought he
was we were talking about a meeting today. I thought
he was a five. He's definitely a four time Olympian.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
If not, Yeah, I covered him too, back when he
was out there doing that stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
And there's everyone's had some a lot of Olympians, track, track, basketball, baseball,
baseball too. Was that I covered some of that to
baseball guy who's the coach Sanders Sanaters was getting dog
piled two thousand. I can't remember which one where the

(03:23):
Olympic team. Oh, yeah, I think it's two thousand and four.
I have a great photo with my game room.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
You do.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, are you in the dogle? No, I'm just watching,
just observed. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
You said your favorite thing you've eaten away from the
United States was kangaroo EMU.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I think it was. Yeah, I think it was that.
I don't know. I couldn't tell you how it tastes.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Came over now, but we had we went to the
top of the top of the circular restaurant, you know,
a bunch of moss from UK City and eight and
they convinced me to do it because I would never
do that anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, so I had some of that. I guess talking
about it now, wasn't bad. It wasn't liver? Was it
better than the liver? I hate liver? So I don't know.
Did you grow up eating liver onion one weekend. That
was the last time. But we got to call real quick. Hello,
you're on the airline the ball. Who's this? What's the word?

(04:22):
What's the word?

Speaker 6 (04:23):
I just called it?

Speaker 7 (04:24):
Shout Blake. Don't come on or get this guy any
guests until he says that All Star Game was exciting?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, right, thanks Vic.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
Oh my god. I called in that the next day
and I told him I was on the edge of
my seat and he told me I was crazy.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I mean, I don't know how you end an All
Star Game better than that in our modern day age.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Like, no, it was cool as heck. My daughter called
from l A and she goes, dadg just in and
the tie And ten minutes later she called back and
she said that was so exciting. Yeah, and then you
saver to hit three three pitches. That was batting practice.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I wonder about through seventy two It doesn't matter, Like
you don't know, do you understand how hard.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
It is at home run?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I can't get it out of the outfield. Well, I
mean like to come off the bench you've been sitting
and then be like, hey, you're gonna take three sweet.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Dudes are the elite of the elite baseball. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I'm well aware. Okay, so that should be you know,
coming every day Saturday. It's not at all by any means.
And then to see the look and excitement on the players,
I gess that was super cool.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
That was That was another thing that she told me.
She said, Dad, you see all the players jumping up
and down the dugout like little kids.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
That was like literally back in the day.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
So on the vick on the skill of one to ten,
it was a ten to you the game.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
And honestly was team scored there on three straight pitches,
hit three bombs out of there, and they.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Had to have him hit that so they could start
going like, yeah, yeah, he tied it. And then what's
his name from Tampa Bay came out and went over
three and that's how Yeah, this is super cool.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
And you were like, nah, I was fine. I guess
I don't know. I don't get excited about it that
way I sound.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
To me.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
It is, yeah, okay, that was about Freddy just walked
it up right now with a line drive and I'm
like jumping up and down and going crazy. Yeah that
was I mean, it was awful.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
So what's up with yours. Yeah, what's happening with the Doyers?

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Ah, they're just they're hurting and playing bad baseball and
throwing it around like little leaguer. It's uh and blade.
You know this game bearing anybody, It gets contagious. Bad
baseball and good baseball.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yeah, fear sets in at some point and it is
spreads like wildfire. Vick, let me ask you this question.
What do you think because we Steve and I were
talking about this and you know more, and we'll go
a little bit deeper in our conversation. Like they hired
drive Line to be their overall pitching coordinator essentially, so
all those players go through drive Line, except.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
If they went and talked to a bunch of buddies.
I'm on a bunch of baseball group Texas and I
asked them the same thing. It has something to do
with it, that's for darn sure.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I mean those guys are going down. Those guys are
going down like flies. And don't get me wrong, drive
Line works like you're gonna bump up four to six
miles prior you increase your spin rate. But the longevity
of your career, you're watching in front of your eyes
with the Dodgers. I mean, those guys are going down.
You have so many injuries right now, so as a spin.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
Rate and all that stuff, try is it affecting their
elbows and stuff?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Just I mean, think about this, like if I tell
you to grip this pitch and throw it as hard
as you possibly can't every single time, like at some point,
your body's just like I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Like there's no like reprieve where guys like Verlander used
to be that way and then they started off where
they would go like ninety three, ninety five the first
couple innings and ninety four nine and you start to
build up that report and you can reach back. Now
it's just like every single pitch I've got a grip
and rip and I just don't think listen, our bodies
aren't made for pitching anyway.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But now it's just it's wild to me.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
So my question and is though, what what the Nolan
Ryan's and Bob Gibson's and Drysdale that went nine innings
every time?

Speaker 6 (08:08):
What's the difference?

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Yeah and the.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, you're talking about one offs and there's you just
mentioned three. But you know what I'm saying those three
could do it and did did it. Maybe they're just different,
maybe just built different.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
It's weird, but but that drive line thing is definitely has.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Explain to me.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's like, let's say, if if you want to be
a bodybuilder, you're going to go to Gold's gym. Okay,
if you want to be a pitcher that throws harder
and creates more spin rate, you go to driving Is it?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Is it a program? Is Yeah, they've built a program.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
There's pliaballs, there's spin rate, there's you've got all kinds
of data would do back in the day when you
just threw. I mean, listen, I have no problem with science.
I have no problem with science being in the game.
I have no problem with these guys working. My question
is like longevity, Like Vic just said, things have to
change on the record recovery site and nowadays, and Vic
knows this better than anybody. From a softball standpoint, there's

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no recovery like kids are told when they're twelve years old,
like you're going to play baseball year round, where kids
aren't recovering anymore so now, especially like North Americans, you're
getting guys are getting Tommy John at the average rate
at fourteen to fifteen years old.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Overworked. Oh you worked? Stop playing for three months out
of the year. I think you're stop. You're the goal.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Play different sport, go do something else, play musical instrument,
and then come back to it like it's not leaving.
When you're twelve, if you win a twelve you championship,
nobody cares when you get older. Honestly, I never go, oh, wait,
you're twenty five, did you win a ten you chance?
Nobody gives a rats ass if you want a tournament
like there's more to it.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
And the thing is too blake. Nobody refuses the ball.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
So if you go play little league and you pitch.

Speaker 7 (09:52):
On Saturday and on Monday your travel team you're.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Throwing, you're throwing eighty You're throwing eighty five pitches to
one hundred pitches on that Monday, we got eleven years old.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
VIC, thanks for the call back going to the call.
Thanks you, I'll vick, thank you. Hello, you're on the
air and eye of the ball. Who's this, Robert, Ben? Robert?
What's up?

Speaker 9 (10:12):
I said that I'm sick of seeing these pictures today.
Five innings is a quality start, and then all you
hear the diamondback announces for saying, how many pitches are
pictures are thrown every single game? You know, they got
up to eighty eighty five. Well, the twelve year old
kids in literallygue thirteen year olds they are allowed to
throw eighty five pitches. So I don't understand this, this

(10:34):
old you know Polonia, Well five innings. If I'm paying
the guy fifteen to twenty million dollars a year, he
better be giving me seven innings a game. And uh,
it's you know, I just don't think these guys are stuff.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
And they used to be.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
Jim Palmerhead, the guy was a great pitcher and he
had a whole bunch of complete games.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
And uh, these managers.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
Today, I think all they want to do all Tori
leabeble this war is to take a starter out of
the game as soon as you can after five or
six innings, and you know, blow another game with a
horrible bullpen. I just don't think these guys are as
tough as they used to be. I think the injuries
are overdone sometimes.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
I mean when they have the Tommy John, sure.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
But these guys just aren't as tough as they used
to be. And there's too much science in baseball. Yeah,
hit the ball, you swing the back, you hit the ball.
It's been that way ever since I started playing when
I was six seven years old. You know the spin rate,
that's a bunch of garbage. You sit there, you swing
the back, hit the ball. These guys are out thinking themselves.
Is how many guys are over three hundred a year?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Maybe two or three?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Hold on, hold hold your thought real quickly. I want
to have talk to this. What you want me a
time to listen? I Robert, You're not wrong to the degree.
I just don't think that in that day and age
you had the bullpens you have now right, you don't
have an arm coming out of the bullpen that's ninety
seven ninety eight with a wipeout slider or uh a
splitty that nobody can hit that falls off, or a

(11:56):
hammer her ball like.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
It's a different day and age. But I do agree
that you want a starter. A quality start should be
six to seven innings every time out. But I disagree
with the thought process that guys are getting softer, because
that's not up to the starting pitcher. It's the analytics
that are giving you the data on when to make
those changes. It's just a different world do we live in.
I want to see a guy go eight to nine innings,

(12:18):
like you're gonna pry this ball out of my hand.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I'm going to kill you before you do it.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
Yeah, what an analytics? That's overtaking baseball. So you have guys,
you have the top ten in the National League American
League batting averages. You have like two guys over three
hundred and everybody's two seventy five to eighty and they're
in the top ten. How do you explain that loudly?

Speaker 8 (12:37):
Hitting?

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Because these guys are sitting there, I'm looking for a
spin rate on the ball. I'm looking for this. It's
the same thing. You pitch the ball. Oh, you swing
the bat, hit the ball. These guys have too many
pros go up there looking at three straight strikes and one.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Did the announcers say, well, he goes looking for a
different pitch. Well, then why do you go up to bat?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean I grew up in the eighties with
guys like Tim Rain's and Ricky Henderson, where once they
got on base, they were stealing. It didn't matter. Watching
those guys run was unbelievable. Watching Tony Gwinn hit the
ball the other way, and it's just a different world.
You're not getting paid to hit singles anymore. Guys are
getting paid twenty five million dollars a year to hit
forty five home runs and hit two twenty five or
two thirty during the season. There has to be a

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shift in the game, like we have to get a
new fan base, and that's not how you're gonna do it.
So I like that they expanded the bases. I like
the pitch clock. It speeds up the game the average,
you know, I think the average time frame for a
game now is two forty which is really good for fans.
You can't argue that against my arguments Football is that
there's always a foul, Like there's always a flag. There's

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then there's a timeout. It's like going to UVA basketball
games now, like how many media timeouts are we going
to have in the first half?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Like it's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
So we can pitch and complain with everything, but with baseball,
I think my concern Robert is like when I was pitching,
you wanted everything down the zone. You want to four
seam fastball away, you want a two seam in, and
then that completely transitioned into you want to throw everything
top of this and work off of that. And now
they're starting to introduce sinkers again, and you're seeing like

(14:04):
more ground balls. I just want them to have I
want them to I want them to have some guys
that can go out there that hit three point fifteen,
three point thirty, and guys that can pitch into the
eighth inning, Like, let's see that happen more often.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Okay, we gotta go. We got a lot of people
call call in see Robert. I think we got to
take a break though. Hey, Brian and John, after we
get ahold of mister Borgue, call us at eight four
three four, I can take the collegs.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
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Breaking down all the xys at alls. This is I
on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Y.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Welcome Back's TRUEPI on the ball here all Fox Sports
fourteen fifty No on the ful we have mister Toby
Borget Toby.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Are you there, tobya either?

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yes? Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, Yeah, we're here.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
We're here.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Good to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
How you doing.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
We're doing great, We're doing great.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
How you guys doing, We're doing firing.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
You guys killed it over the last few days. Tucson Turf.
What's in the what's in the water up there?

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Well, I tell you there's a lot of gatorade, a
lot of water. But it was It was a good
time and ken the kids did great. Coaches really elevated
their game and the results were great.

Speaker 15 (20:29):
So were all the games there at one venue what area, Yeah,
think of like Keno Sports Complex but wrapped around the
Hall of.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Fame Stadium and the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
I like that where right where the Hall of Fame is,
the fields are wrapped around it. It's really awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
So how was the experience for you before we go
to the talking about the kids, how.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Was it for you?

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Oh? For me personally? Listen, you know, being the the
kind of head of this program, you know, it's like
it's like being a teacher watching all your pupils do
do well on an exam. You know, it was awesome
to see your you know, the coaches all excelling and
watching them grow as they coach and these you know,

(21:17):
it's it's the best environment. It's the highest level you
can play at in flag football. So to do well
at that level on that stage, it's just it's really
amazing to sit and watch and be a part of.
For sure, I'm.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Assuming that had you written a script, you might want
want to wanted to have won some other championships, but
it couldn't have gone much better than what it did.
And then explain what happened.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Well, you know, we we we have to earn a bit.
It's not a it's not a given your you'll ever
get to go to a national championship with the n
bil Flag And that's the beauty of it is you
have to go to a tournament in your region and
you have to win. You have to actually go to
a tournament and win that tournament, which a very very
tough task. So once you get there, you're playing against
when every team has won a tournament to get there,

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so there's no slouches. And then you know, they do it.
They do it just like the NFL playoffs. You have
your divisions and you have to win. You have to
win your division and then you have to go into
the playoffs and you have to win the playoffs to
get into the championship game. And you know, of the
four teams, after day one and two, which was the
round robin, we had a record a combined record of

(22:27):
thirteen and one, so meaning we just as a program,
it was amazing how well these kids did. And then
once we got in a tournament play you know, one
of our teams that I was seated first, they got
upset in round one. That was the girls team at
twelve you age. And then our other teams, everybody won
a few games and we had one team go to

(22:48):
the quarterfinals, another team go to the semi finals, and
of course, our our twelve view team just kept kept
winning these you know last second where they you know,
had to score or had to make a stop, and
they showed that they were the best team in the
in the nation and they upset like the number one, two,
three and four team in the nation.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
What was it like doing it in Campton though, Like,
I mean, how was the atmosphere, how was the experience?
Did you guys get to experience the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, you can go into the Hall of Fame when
you know, when there's downtime, when when it's not you know,
when you're not playing as a team. You know, families
will take their kids and go into the Hall of Fame.
There were Hall of Fame guys walking around, and they
have NFL film crews everywhere, and it's just the environment
is is just like an NFL event. So it's really
really high level, just a cool environment for the kids. Uh,

(23:40):
you know a lot of really high level teams and
programs are now in the nation that kids recognize and yeah,
it's really cool.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
So you finished nineteen and four overall with those four teams.
What I asked this people or this question of all
the all the people that come on, what's the secret, sauce?
Because you guys are successful for long term, not just
this year. What do you doing that makes them so
so good?

Speaker 13 (24:05):
You know?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
It's really interesting. But you'd asked this a lot, and
we're not like the mecca for football, so and it's
hard to explain to folks who have never been. Like
I tell people, it's like, you know, watching a movie
about you know, about a tour on a on a boat,
and being on the boat is totally different. Right, Okay,

(24:28):
who you there got on the field? Mind you? Our
biggest kid is probably five to ten, you know, and
he's a big five.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
He's a big kid.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
In jus on here. When we get on the field
the first game, there are three kids from the other team.
This is a team from back east, like New York.
Three of their kids are six two, two hundred plus pounds.
This is they're twelve years old. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Twelve years old.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
And they look and the other kid that's not six
to two looks like a young Jon Robinson, just sculptured.
I mean it just as he it's moved, he's fast,
he's a great athlete. And they've got their quarterback. I mean,
this team is designed to win in football, but flag football,
there's no helmets, there's no pads. It's it's a lot

(25:14):
about strategy and knowing the game and working together and
all the little details that have to go right for
you to be successful at the highest level. And if
you're not concerned with details, you just want to go
off raw athleticism, Well that just doesn't always work. It's
not attract me. You know, it's not attract me. You know,
line up and just race and you know it's got

(25:36):
a lot to do. We always boil it down to
attitude and effort, you know. And if we instill that
in our kids, and they approach every competition as if
they deserve to be on that field, and they believe
in each other even when bad times come. Like I know,
it seems kind of like a movie and I'm just
saying things you've heard over over your life, but that
is real. Like that is all real talk.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
And the results, whether.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
It's Jon Robinson and my older sons and you know,
the Jamari Joiners on the field or late to Ransom
versus the kids that nobody of you ever know that
are now doing the same things at that same level.
We're getting the same results. It's awesome. It's really needs
to be a part.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Of You've been doing this a long time and now
you can see it going to happen in the Olympics
and things like that. I'm not sure you ever would
imagine it would happen in the Olympics, but what a
great opportunity I think.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is your daughter still pursuing that?

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah, you know, I was actually part of the original
Olympic committee. They brought me into Indianapolis to discuss it,
and as a committee, we all were we were hoping
and dreaming, and this was back in twenty twenty and
we sat around and we discussed it and how we
can make it happen, And sure enough, four years later,

(26:49):
they got it passed and Ryland. You know, Ryland loves competing.
She's a high level competitor at everything she's done. But
her passion has always been football. You know, our family
shares that fashion. My wife played flag football as she
was in college. I played flag football post high school
at a real high level, and throughout my adulthood my

(27:12):
kids have been raised around the game. So to see
it going to be featured in the Olympics and there
on the cusp of possibly being able to represent the
country at that level is it is It is very
dreamlike actually, you.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Know, so where was she at in the stage?

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Okay, she missed four years of flag football when the
rest of the country was playing flag football because she
focused on high school sports, because she knew she wanted
to go D one. She wanted to compet at the
highest level in a sport, and you know, flag football
doesn't have the highest level. Wasn't wasn't there? So she
went to college on Sam volleyball scholarship, as you probably know.

(27:53):
And then it was October when they released at the
Olympics we're going to have the flag football in twenty
twenty eight and she couldn't compete at the highest level
in both at the same time. So she had to
make a decision. But because of her grades, and this
is what I keep telling people, when you take care
of your classroom responsibilities, you have options. Now, if you're

(28:13):
primarily an athlete and that's all you do is focus
on athletics and focus on that particular sport that you're
excelling in. Once that's gone, if you don't have anything else,
you don't have options. But Ryland had those options because
she's a scholar, so she still has scholarship if she's
still able to get her schooling done and she can
go follow her passion, which was the flag football, not

(28:35):
say volleyball.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah okay, so now she's what we're three of your
years removed, tryouts or what's next?

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Okay, So if you had a top like fifty women
in the world, they're narrowing that top fifty down to
the top ten. She sits right around between number nineteen
and number twenty two and in the nation in flag football,
and she's every time she competes, she's moving up, she's

(29:05):
moving the needle. She just went to Team USA. It's
a it's International Bowl there in La last month and
she competed and she led her team to a gold
medal again. And when I say letter team, she she
really really did well. At the end of that tournament,
they have five girls or five women I should say

(29:26):
that they select that are going to get automatic bids
for team trials for Team UFA next year. She was
selected as one of those five girls after that competition,
and last year she did the same thing. Her team
won the event. So it's pretty rare to be on
she's the only girl actually that's probably on both teams
last year and this year that won the event.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So nice, that's it's really neat.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
You talked about your family being competitive. We all know
about the family being competitive with your sons. I mean quarterback.
But I'm assuming she she she's probably I don't don't
even know the age that she's at, but probably got
not Tom bullied or whatever, but she had to compete
with her brothers. And I'm sure she got some of
that competition from the brothers because she was the younger

(30:09):
little girl.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Well, yeah, there's the we called in our family, we
call it.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
The big three.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's Trenton, Covien and Trayson uh and then Ryland was
number four. So what Ryland did when Ryland was like
four or five, six, seven, eight years old, she just
played with the boys like there was she wanted to play.
We didn't want to treat her all different.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
She is the girl.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
There was no girls leagues, so she just played black
football with the boys and eventually, you know, she was running.
When she would play against girls, it was like, you know,
she was very well prepared.

Speaker 16 (30:41):
You know.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
The one that we need to talk about a little
bit is actually the one that just brought home a
national championship, and he's actually riding in the truck with
me right here. But Emmern is our youngest and the
passion that he plays with is something that's it's it's
very contagious and and it's pretty rare, and that's you know,
he came home and if his team's been together for

(31:02):
a lot of years, it's quarterback. They grew up on
the sideline at our adult games and now they've played
together since they were five years old. And a couple
of the other players, they're all neighborhood kids. They're all like,
you know, Northwest Tucson kids that have played together a
long time and to see it all come together at
the right moment. They haven't lost a game. I didn't
even know this because I don't really pay attention to

(31:22):
this sort of stuff, but they told me afterwards, we
haven't lost a game with that twelve you team since
October in a tournament that not all we weren't there.
We were at one of our kids games somewhere, so
everyone wasn't there. But that's the last time that twelve
you team actually lost on a national stage. And they've
taken every national tournament and regional tournament since last October.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
And this is the twelve YOU team, the twelve.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
YOU team, the twelve YOU team that represents Tucson.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
That's correct, and you do you coach or you run it.

Speaker 16 (31:52):
Well.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
I attempt to do both. It's very hard that the
more teams that we've grown to have in our program
makes them possible for me to coach equally on each team.
And it's very tough because through the years I've had
kids playing on multiple teams. Last year, they made me
decide the NFL My son Kendron, who's a sophomore at Southpoint,

(32:15):
he's on a team USA seventeen U team. His National
championship game, our national semi final game, and Immorn's game
were at the same exact time, so I had to
choose because it was Kendron's last game, I had to
choose to go to that game, and we lost in
the championship game last year the twelve YOU teams. This year,
I had no conflicts, so I was able to focus

(32:38):
just on the twelve U and I was able to
coach that team. But like last year, I had Ryland,
my daughter playing Kendren, my son playing and imorn my
son playing, and we also had four other teams that
were playing representing Tucson term. So I have really really
great coaches in our program and great parents, so I
don't have to be everywhere all at once.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And just for an update because we're running out of time. Here,
your oldest that was playing a quarterback in issue, what's
he up to now?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
And I think you have your next one at b YU.
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (33:09):
That's incorrect. Actually, my oldest is Trenton. He's a quarterback
and now he is a coach on AFU staff with
coach Dillingham. He's an assistant running backs coach at ASU.
Covin is the wide receiver and he is still active
at ASU. He's getting his masters in engineering, so he'll
be finishing up this year. Trason is in the quarterback

(33:30):
competition right now at BYU to have the starting quarterback
position there. And then you have Ryland, then you have
Kendrin who I mentioned, and Immern who I mentioned.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
You must be sewing a lot of turf, man, a
lot of turf.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
I gotta say a lot of turf. I appreciate the
support from everybody buying turf from US in Tucson.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
And maybe lastly, do you I'm not sure you can
recruit what you're doing, but how do people want to
join your teams?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Do they just find you?

Speaker 6 (33:56):
You know, we are all over social media. We did
don't go out and you know recruit anybody from anywhere,
and we never have. We just we tell people if
you if you if you want to be a part
of what we're doing, you know, do a little legwork
and and and we're easy to find. You know, Tucson
Turf is on every social media uh, Instagram and uh

(34:18):
and Facebook, and you know, we have a website, so
you know, just find us that you fill out your
you know, your form for your child and you know
we'll respond. And and there's leagues here in Tucson. The
NFL Flag League is now in Tucson, and they're doing
a great job and gives kids a great opportunity to
showcase their talents. And uh, you know, at the national level,

(34:40):
we put together the very best teams that we can
and it's it's a great representation. And what Tucson needs
to know is we have a reputation that we compete
really really high level. But our kids and our parents
represent our community as good as anybody in the country,
and we have that reputation from coast to coast. So
that so you guys really need to know.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, nice, nice, Notice, Well, when you're successful, there's a
reason why you're successful.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Right, Yeah, I believe that that's correct.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Okay, thanks to bunch, Toby.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Good luck to you guys the rest of the way,
and the guys at their respective teams and the girls
of course.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, we appreciate it. Thank thanks for doing what
you do.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Take care to thank you a lot of success on
that football football field.

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Speaker 3 (39:37):
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We have about thirteen minutes. If you'd like to call,
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(39:59):
to get in a VIC, so go ahead and just
give us a call. We're talking about baseball. I think
they wanted to talk about the good old days. I mean,
the good old days are what they were, right, the
good old days, and now you have the spin rates
and all the arm injuries and blah blah blah blah,
and I get it, you know, the shifting and the
non shifting and the clocks.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Okay, good for you. I don't know what the right
answer is. Listen, we you and I talked. I'm not
a right an. There's probably no wrong answer. I just
don't know.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
You don't how do you grow? Like, how do you
grow the sport in popularity? Because you're right, I mean,
I miss those days. I miss I miss the eighties Cubs,
like like I miss I miss seeing a guy grab
a baseball and go out and throw eight innings.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Right, So let me ask you.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
We know the games are like two twenty two thirty.
Maybe you okay with that? Two hours and twenty Yeah,
you didn't get out, didn't get out? Yeah, but about
some good game. I love the pitchclocks. I'm sorry, I'm
a big pitchcock.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I don't know. I'm neither here nor there.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
You're starting to reinduce to the run game again, Like,
there's some exciting things are happening in baseball that I
think we tend to not get out of our weight.
And look at the concern that I have though, is
from a fan standpoint, is that, especially if I'm a
Dodgers fan, which I'm definitely not, but if I'm watching
three of my starting five go down and then two
out of my four guys that I bring.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Like, that's not what's happening. That's not a cool incidence.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Yeah, and I'm not disagreeing that drive line is not
a great it's a great product. It's phenomenal providence. But
like there's a problem there. I think, Okay, hello, you're
on the air and out of the ball.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Who's this is, Brian?

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Yes, it is like baseball, you know. I mean to
watch what happens in baseball.

Speaker 16 (41:45):
People putching five innings, you know, it's a quality star
and and all the injuries and you know, like what
Vike was saying, Uh, get out of baseball for three
or four months a year.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Yeah, do something else as a kid.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 16 (42:00):
You know, it's pretty bad. You know if you talk
about everybody says, well, the Dodgers have all these injuries,
all the teams have all these injuries. It's just not
the Dodgers, it's everybody.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Brian, I can't remember. I know Jim did with Jay
did you coach?

Speaker 6 (42:16):
Yes, I coached with j Okay, You.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
And the Brian Okay Bright so would you?

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I know, back in the day we all just played
a lot of sports and then we took some time off.
Right now, would you would you still want that today?

Speaker 5 (42:29):
Uh? Would I want it?

Speaker 16 (42:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Or encourage it?

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Oh? I encourage it a lot for.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Kids to do other things besides just baseball.

Speaker 16 (42:38):
I mean, okay, they set their sights and their hopes
and everything on all by like play year round. I'm
gonna make myself somehow into professional baseball. I mean, the
percentage of that is just so astronomical that they're not, well,
you know, but the parents push this stuff.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well, let me say this, and I'm well aware of
that because I know a few of those people. But
now it's college, you're gonna make pretty good money. Not
in baseball, You're right, well supports I mean outside of
football and that. Yeah, right, there's two sports you're not. Yeah,
you're you're realistically not, but you're you're right. You're gonna
get your education paid for. The parents were saying, this
is our this is our ticket.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Sure you, I mean, listen, I think we can all
agree that we live vicariously through our kids and we
want to see the best for them. I don't have
any but I assume that's yes, in my lifetime, you
coached them, helping raise a lot of people's kids. That's
usually what it is, right, and you get so caught
up in this fanatic and they want to be college player.
You're like, I'm gonna do whatever it takes to and

(43:37):
sometimes we don't realize you're burning them out, right, Bryan,
I'm those oh a lot.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
You know.

Speaker 16 (43:45):
One thing was kind of nice when Jay and I
coached together. Uh and it was a small one a
school at Saint Gregory's. It was great, but you had
the kids who played three or four sports and they
were you know, and they only played baseball basically during
baseball season. I mean, we weren't that quality of a team,
but the kids had a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
No one ever got hurt. I never saw anybody get hurt, you.

Speaker 16 (44:06):
Know, but it was but it was great for the kids,
you know, to do something, you know else besides just
one sport. Just tried different things.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
You know, might you might realize, well baseball is not
for me, maybe golf is, or tennis or something.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
I do think though that at that level you probably
needed the athletes to do a lot of those things
because you didn't have a lot of to choose from.
But as you get to the five a's, four a's
or whatever. Right, that's that's where they stay in their sport.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 16 (44:33):
But I remember when my son played baseball back in
the late nineties early two thousands. He played his first
year in high school, he played three sports. In his
second year he played two sports, and then his last
year he just played one, just baseball, and that was it.
But at least they got an opportunity to see what
it was like to play those in high school.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah. No, I think that's the case for a lot
of time.

Speaker 16 (44:55):
But nowadays you don't see that.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Yeah no, no, like you know, one of those in
multiple sports. Yeah, I still think you should. I mean,
if it's not sports, like I said before, play instrument,
join a club, like just get away from the game,
do something different, get away.

Speaker 16 (45:09):
From the game, you know, get away from the you know,
I've seen I've saw a lot of kids in high
school just you know, you would just play one sport.
And back in those days, they didn't have club. You
hit summer ball, but not club, and so you didn't
travel all over the place and play one hundred games
in a summertime.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
You know.

Speaker 16 (45:28):
But I knew kids who who every day after after
school would be practicing even in the off season, and
by the time they got to be seniors, they were
burned out on baseball.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, and we've seen it. We've seen it a number
of ways, in a number of ways. Okay, Brian, Yeah,
thanks so much for calling. Okay, talk to about appreciate it.
I think that's the standard that people, you know, see
too much of the burnout and whatever, and then you
don't see the kids the Todd Marinovitch syndrome.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean there's if you do
one thing all the time, sure for eight years, Like
at some point you're gonna snap and be like, this
is not what I'm.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
So when you go to a baseball game, I'm sure
now you do, and now you put them together. Now
you don't have time to watch the game because you're
too busy making things, making sure that things are okay.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Right. See.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I don't do it because I've done it all my life. Yeah,
you know, this is my life's work. The last thing
I want to do is go to a game.

Speaker 5 (46:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
It's when you put it that way, is wild. Like
I used to always do, like the ten minute recap
on MLB to watch what happened, and same thing in football,
same thing in basketball. But I now find myself only
watching Cups games, like that's the only thing. Like, well, come,
my wife's a die hard Cubs fan, my dad, my
mom like so well, I wouldn't say my mom's a
die hard Cubs fan, but she loves going to the

(46:45):
games with us, especially when they go in extra innings.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
We would she she hated it.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
She like I convinced her to go to this Cups
Gabe two years ago to play the Divabacks and it
went seventeen ins and she was miserable. Oh yeah, but
yeah the first into the seventeenth so you got to
double hither. And I was like, what, you found your
passion too, and that's the Cubs. Yeah yeah, And I
found the Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I'm a diehard.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Time like for me for football season in the NFL.
For me, my passion is waking up on a Sunday
at ten o'clock, turning on the The Red Zone two
game series, no, the red Zone, the red Zone, and
watching that. I don't watch games now, I just watch
the red Zone. Yeah, I mean the thing that that's
kind of ruined football not ruined it for me. But
like I think I've said this before, I'm in way

(47:30):
too many fantasy leagues. Were talking about for fantasy leagues,
so all I care about is players performances. Like so,
but it drawn me to more, like you're saying, it
shrawn me to watch more games. Sure, and that's why
that's why I don't do it. It would be too
much to me. And that was ridiculous. And I'm committed
to the people I've picked and I'm thinking, I can't
do this thing.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
You can't do that exactly. That's why I don't do it.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Every year, like two weeks and I go, okay, don't
don't drop this player, like you can't, like you don't know,
it's just it's a backup running back. Don't drop this player.
And I'm like, I gotta drop him, and I drop
him and by week six he's a number one running
back William like you idiot, And every single year I
do the same.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
That's why I don't do it. I don't second guess
myself and I just say okay. And I did it
one year and I said number again, Yeah, there's too much,
too much into it.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I play. We played in two Fantasy BASEBA leagues.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Last year I play, and one this year a guy
Ben Chullick from the Arizona Ball I play with him
and his buddies, and my wife plays.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I like, I like fantasy baseball.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I just it's an everyday thing, like you have to
set your lineup, so it's a little much.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
But yeah, whatever, I don't know. I don't know what anymore.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
I you wake up on Sunday morning, I usually wake
up about five forty five, and I watched the Cubs
game from Saturday on the couch. My wife gets up.
Then I make breakfast, and then we hang out, and
then I watched movies or.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
So about this ten minutes, they get.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
A recap on MLB Network. You just watch it and
they show all the games, all the all the highlights.
Oh okay, okay, so you get through it.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Okay. See I tell you don't even want to I
don't either more. See if my life is you know
what you remember the good old days?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Imagine if you have kids, I mean you you have
it not Oh listen, I I'm fully aware. I'm fully aware.
We have this conversation, don't We don't need to have
the conversation. We don't need to have people calling and
being like, what the hell are you guys talking about?
Because you're you're empty nest now Yeah, yeah, I lived
that for twelve thirteen years of going to soccer for all.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
That time, you know, but it was what was it
like for you, Steve having a kid that the soccer
parent who doesn't like soccer?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
No, no, no, it's not that I don't like soccer.
My ex coach, my son, my oldest stuff for like
the first years. Then he just became with Cosgrove and
all the elite kids. Uh No, it's not that I
don't like I love competition. Competition, that's my problem.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
You like watching the game because your kids are playing,
but you don't like the team, You don't like the spools.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you offsides all
that stuff. You just enjoyed being in that atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, yeah, it was fun. It was other parents stuff
like that. I love competition, I love more than anything.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
That's what I love. But you don't like watching soccer? No,
not really, Okay, that's what I'm saying earlier. I also
don't like watching, you know, cricket.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Yeah, or like listening to good music. Well, Black Sabbath
is good music. How are you arguing that Black Sabbath
is not good music?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
You guys?

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Sign off, Sign off of this for the last time ever.
Black Sabbath is one of the greatest rock and roll
bands of all time. You can't make where's your argument
on that? I have not because I have nothing, no
background here exactly. Man, Well, I won't argue with you.
I'm gonna play changes for you. I'll get you. Baby,
don't don't do that. I'll play the Charles Bradley versions.

(50:38):
I don't wear yourself from that because I'll know. I'll say,
what the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (50:42):
All right? Who is that? We'll save it for another day. Okay,
So did you mourn his passing last night or today? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (50:48):
You did?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah? In what form?

Speaker 4 (50:50):
I'll be listening to Black Sabbath all day long and crying.
I cry all the time.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Anyway. I'm just listening to Black Sabbath doing it. And
I want to show who can't pronounce words like.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Listen you and I together. Thank god you can enunciate,
because we would be a bunch of bumblers.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Not the annunciator. That's so funny. Yeah, thanks, for coming
back on the show. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Thanks, we'll be back next week. We'll see what's going on.
A lot of stuff going on next.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Week because of sort of football, I know, and I
might have a really big announcement next week. You tease
me for Listen, the press release is supposed to go
out this Friday, so I can I should be able
to make.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
This, Okay, any one that mixed some baseball stuff coming
on with the heads. We had the press conference last week?
Well how was that this week? Monday?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I was there.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
I was on the panel. Okay, yeah you didn't watch. No, No,
it's okay. I'm not that big, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I enjoy when you text me and say, hey, good job.
I appreciate it. But I don't ever get that from you.
So maybe that's why I come on the show. I'm
looking for your approval. Yeah, okay, thank you very much.
Good luck with that. All right, Thanks everybody for the calls.
We're gonna come back tomorrow. I'm not sure who's going
to be on the show, but somebody will.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
We'll see. Yeah, you'll know my three ten. We'll pull
it off. Thanks everybody. Bye, guys,