Wednesday, July 30, Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Want to take part in the show call out Steve
now went five to two oh four one six seventy
four forty.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, welcome back to one on the ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Eric Rhoades,
not the other way as you're one not Ray, not Ray,
breaking news.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
This is I on the ball, breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Happy Wednesday. I believe it. I've been losing my days here.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Happy Wednesday, everyone out there, yours truly, Hitolindo, mister goody
two shoes. Starting off with some former Arizona Wildcats from
college basketball, guards Gabe jorg and Tourol Brown Junior have
their eyes on a one million dollar prize this summer.
They're competing in the Basketball Tournament TBT sixty four team

(01:00):
where to take all tournament. Their team, Evelyn Drive, will
play in the semifinals Thursday at So.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
They won last night. I think they must have wanted
how did he do? York? Who's the other guy you mentioned?
He had a he has team high twenty three points. Okay, yeah,
because he must be leading them and he had that
it's called something else, but he had to walk off
to Oh yeah, the target score. Yeah yeah, okay, I've
been watching him, not last night though, some over the weekend. Yeah,
because because Roddy Alkins was played on the same day

(01:31):
and had a horrible turnover that had their team lose. Yeah.
He just signed in Japan or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Right, yeah, Terrell Brown Junior. Oh okay, that's he actually
was the one to assist on the the final.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
That makes sense, Okay, I didn't understand the person name.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
So a big news for today, Gilbert Arenas has been
arrested on charges of illegal poker games.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
He well, we talked about this off the right. He
was one of our characters recovered on the daily him,
Robin and Batman and Robin with Jason Gardner. Fun times,
fun times. He's a fun guy. Let me give you,
let me give you the roster, fun times. Jason, who
didn't say much, Gilbert who's talked a lot, pretty too much,
Richard who talked a lot, said a lot. Geene Edgerson

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talked a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Good Luke the lowest voice Darth theater voice.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Right. Uh, we had what's his name? What's his name?
Lauren Woodson on the show maybe about three weeks ago.
Fantastic good Dn rick En one of the characters, and Wright,
who didn't say much. So a great time to be alive.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I think you tell me we we both cover that
team a lot. I think Michael Wright said as much
all season as Gilbert didn't want anything that's accurate.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's accurate, but said more stuff to very powerful you know, Gilbert,
Are you serious, Gilbert? Yeah, so shocked. Call me shocked,
but not shocked.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, I mean this it goes back, you know one hell,
I'm sure it was going to talk about that, said
his I mean all his altercations. The big gun incident
stemmed from a card game on the plane, so he
should stay away for cards for a while.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
So he's officially been charged with one count of conspiracy
to operate an illegal gambling business, one count of operating
in an illegal gambling business uh, and one count of
making false statements federal investigators and his son.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah he's he's noways ye, yeah, you gotten the car
crash and now hurt his knee.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, I just had surgery and probably out for the year.
But those counts carry Each count carries a maximum five
years of federal so that's not early released. That's like,
so we might see uh Gilbert spending some time.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Gilbert. I'm sure his podcast is going to be over
unless somebody else takes it over.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, I mean, if you, I encourage you to read
more about it. It's not it's not just like he
had some poker games. There was a lot going on. Well,
he's like rented a house trouble security, and that's where
the trouble comes in. He can't he would have just
had the games. That's you had no problem with it.
But he was charging people. And there's there's some folks
who were on some bad list with you know, there's some.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Oh I see the like the foreign guy.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, there's there's some folks that are yeah not not
some podaca with a lot of things going on right now,
and so it's yeah, I mean there was ladies that
the report said were companions. So whenever companion shows up,
I think that's ventures on another opportunity.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Obviously on the record, I don't like anybody, so there's
no companion opportunity exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Continuing with breaking news, the NBA will play at least
six regular season games in Europe, over the next three seasons,
starting with a pair of games between the Memphis Grizzlies
and the Orlando Magic. Okay, cool, how do you feel
about those international games? Steve neither here nor there.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I know. I just like asking you, like any reaction.
Sometimes you get it, sometimes you don't. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
So, uh the I believe you guys heard about the
New York City accident. Accident attack, so a casino supervisor
in I believe Vegas was the one that sold him
the gun. Rifle in the car came out today earlier
statement from.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
From his from his and I think it's the question
is whether it was a legal sale of the firearm.
He was a I guess he was a security guy
at the Horseshoe or something. Yeah. Yeah, uh So.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
One of the Bills, I believe rookie cornerback Maxwell Harriston
suffered a right l c L sprain in Tuesday's practice,
but avoided a major injury. But he kept his a
cl intact. But you're trying to see a lot of
those in these in the camps.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
One of.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Serious injuries, season ending injuries and the season hasn't even started.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Bengals released by veteran running back Zach Moss after one season.
He started six games for them last season. Who's this
Zach Moss for the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
He's had a head injury last year, I think, right, Yeah,
I believe that's the guy I forgot his name, Okay,
Zach Moss.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
And then the last thing I got because you know, summertime. Uh,
Florida's starting quarterback DJ Lagway has a calf strain and
he was in a boot to start their fall camp. Okay,
one of the more exciting players on some of those
watch lists.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah. Uh, for the for this upcoming season. So so,
mister Rhodes here, that's it for you from you. Okay,
we can just talk now if you want to call
in too. We have some time. We have about ten minutes.
Yeah ten h. So you have season tickets, You've had
it for a while just because you want something to
do on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I'm a sports nerd and I'm gonna I'm mean, I
had season tickets when I was six with my dad,
so like this, it's a long time thing for me.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Is when I grew up here.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, So when I left the media world and I
stopped getting free tickets credit and working there, then I
was like, I really want to support it and I
love it anyway, So.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I was gonna try to compare you to Jay, so
bear with me. Yeah, you know, he's one of those
hard guys who you know angstus usually every month. So
how do you? How do you when you go to games?
Are you going for entertainment? Are you going to see
you win? Are you what kind of fan?

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (07:19):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Probably obnoxiously optimistic? You know there's there's there's not over zeous? Yeah, no, no,
I'm I I'm gonna try to not sound self serving here.
I know enough on the inside that I kind of
have an idea of what's likely to happen. And I
can't start talking because I know a lot of the

(07:43):
people in the programs not as much anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
There's been so much turnover at Arizona. But do you
mean to be on the grace good graces or you know,
just just like you know when when you know you
we used to do this right. You'll sit at a
sports bar and you hear people.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Talking about they all know everything, and you're just sitting
there going, I have to bite your tongue, going, that's
not right, that's not even close to right.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, and you know, you hear fans around you going,
oh my gosh, they should have just run the Jets.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Sweep because you know it works every time on college
football twenty six. Yeah, you know, I'm going then they
don't have the horses right, and they're like, oh, how
come we can't stop the run? Well, because every person
on their line as a senior who's got thirty seven
starts to their name, they're thirty seven years old.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well that's funny because I have a group of friends
that I, you know, hang out with time to time
and I go to games and they asked me what
do you think? And then I said, don't ask me
these questions because you're not going to hear a good answer.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So eventually then they press and then I tell them
and they call me kuailude because I always bring them down. Yeah,
what's going to happen? I'm sure they asked you because
oh you you you know, you know, and then they
don't like the answers.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean when you look at it's why I
ask Kevin he did somebody covers the team like optimistically,
I'd say, yeah, have a great team, but like there's
question marks running back. Yeah, like they all look it
on paper. But it's a question I would love to
get to walk into the season. Listen, I think you
and I have talked about this off air before. Like
my goal and help this circles for my answer. I
want to be competitive. I want to go see a

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competitive football game, like and if you make a mistake,
you make a mistake. And if you I'm not one
of those guys like if they lose, my day is
ruined because I'm the guy who looks at it and go, well, yeah,
you have third and eight on.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Four consecutive drive. It's like, that's not gonna work.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
You're not gonna win football games with two turnovers and
you know, seventy four yards rushing, Like, you're just not
gonna win.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Sure, So let me ask you so too. You were
a junior, Yeah, you were junior when they went to Oklahoma.
Was that an abiration or was that sure the aberration?
Let's see, that's a great question. I don't think. I'm
not a big believer in multiple win flukes. Like I

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think you can have a great game and a team
has a bad game and you beat the team. Yeah,
if you played ten times, that's that might be the
only time you win. And this is part of the
momentum thing, right you could have Yeah, either you have
it don't. When does the begin and when is it end?

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So I mean it really started that year for me
with the USC loss. They should have won that.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Game, like and what they played Washington pretty well, Yeah,
they should have won that USC game at USC, and
I think I would. I was around the program a
little bit, just at some of the practice and what
I love to see, and that kind of came out
to be a story a lot of you guys wrote
about it was they didn't come out going, oh that
was a moral victory. They were like, we blew it,
like we should have won that game, and that kind

(10:29):
of started the oh it's another ranked team, but like
that momentum at Arizona Stadium, which kind of circles back
to what we were talking about. To hear a buzz
when you're walking in is when I want, yeah to
walk into those tailgates, walk around and just have like,
even if it's foolish optimism, a little optimism.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right, Well, in your lifetime, you've had it a few times, Yeah,
not a lot of times. No, That's why I think
I asked you yesterday when you're in What was the
buzz like to me? There was no buzz.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah for the media, yeah no, there was no. It
was just like, like, what do we know about this
team because we don't know a lot because it's so new.
Yeah yeah, And then that's why you look at the schedule.
You see some games, well, if we have the right players,
if we stay home.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
See what What those guys don't know is when you
and I are around for the Macavi Gears, where you
walked in and you're like, we're not winning, Like it's
not you know, like talking about six wins is not
three maybe on the table, like I've been happy and
happy with that and hope one of them is NAU.
And so I think just having that pause is what
I look for because I think I like to say

(11:32):
like I'm the most optimistic, realist Arizona fan there is,
because basketball, I have high expectations, baseball, softball sort of
the same, like we should be combetitive, golf saying like
we've had great coaches, great facilities, like you should win
at Arizona and a couple of those sports. I would
love to see swimming and diving get back there because
that was historically a great program.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
The programs you mentioned right there all had them in
the top twenty of the Sears Cup, I think at
the same Director's Cup. Yeah, yeah, I mean, because they
were strong in all of those Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
And so from a football standpoint, the real astside of
me goes, listen, having a ten win season. Do you
know how many D one football teams haven't had a
ten win season in decades?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Thirty forty fifty years has Arizona? Yeah? Handful of right,
And so I.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Thought last year was false expectations from everybody going. You
lost a coach, you had to replace a whole staff
in February, like you know, I mean, it was just
Brendan walked into a near impossible situation. And he said
it himself just a month ago, like he spent the
whole year just trying to keep a locker room together,

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not win football games.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm doing, like I said, I'm doing a big profile
on him, and I think us us, at least my friends.
We talked about that a lot, because I talk about
this analogy being a step If I were a step
step bother, I'd have to take care of, you know,
the little kids and make her happy and blah blah blah,
and you have to walk down thengy shels and blah
blah blah. Now he doesn't have to do that. And
no one understands the importance of being ice and being

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blah blah blah, because when they're gonna bolt or they're
not gonna listen to you or whatever, they probably not
listen to you. Anyway. You're a teacher, kind of an educator,
aren't you? High substitute teacher not anymore? I yeah, yeah,
I taught high school for a couple of ys. Sucky
is that job? It's rough because they don't give a
crap what you say. And that's kind of what he

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was last year.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, And I mean I go back to Fafita's struggles, Like, listen,
he had zero help on the line. He was running
for Yeah, he had running for his life. And let's
let's just call it what it is. He's not the
tallest in stature, so like he can't see downfield as well.
And the reality is, like you look at like how
many perennial power teams really struggled after big, big seasons,

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Like there's a handful of teams, sure, five in the
nation that expect eight wins are above, So.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I'll give you another one with Frafita. Was that an
aberration or was last year in aboration? I think last year.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
I think Listen, I talk about Andy Lopez a lot,
just because he's one of my favorite people, and I
agree just the way he coached the young people. And
I say that intentionally, not not coach the game. He
coached the person, and the game kind of came with
And I think that we had millions and millions of people,

(14:23):
you know, watching Noah go and what's this kid gonna do? Okay,
he came back, He's the savior, and just expecting all
these things and yeah, and then having Tam Mac who's
going to be a first rounder, and all the pressure
for Tea Mac to have the success, which those two
were such great friends. All Noah wanted to do was
make sure t Mac got his due and Tam act
the same thing like and so I think it's great

(14:45):
to see. I love the number change. Kind of a
clean slate, just just wipe it clean. Like listen, the kid.
I love Arizona football.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I want him to win. I'm a homer to overcomes home.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
It's Arizona football, like it's sickly we shouldn't expect an
eight to ten win season maybe every ten years.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
How many how many have you seen two to eight
to ten win two ten win seasons, two ten wins?
So two in your time, probably a little bit more
in our time.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Here, Yeah, I mean I go back to like ninety
four Fiesta Bowl and the Desert Swarm teams, like you know,
and I remember like the big jokes when we fired
Tony because he went six and six.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, you know, and that was and that was a
Tony here. I mean, yeah, honestly because he had he
if you were cyclical, yeah, that was cyclical.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, but that to me, the expectation and you
and I have said this probably on the air, the
expectation for Arizona should be six wins at least.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, you should get to a bowl game. That should
be the expectation.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
And you're gonna have a year where you don't you
have whatever like last year, new coaching staff, a bunch
of guys leave whatever, you know, guys get hurt. I
mean also last year the other thing is like you
watched our defense, who was number ones.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
We didn't have a lot of depth. How many the
number ones went down.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean you're watching that game with Manu and
he's flying around it makes a great tackle that gets
called back, makes an interception and he tears the acl celebrating.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Right, he just goes down like twenty yards all night
like something bad. Sometimes bad things happen just because they happen,
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Speaker 2 (20:42):
I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to I on
the Ball hero on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty. D
Rivera in with me today's air approach from the Snoop
dogg Arizona Ball and now Dave Silver from his cake
nine years and obviously my one of my costs every
now and again. Welcome everybody, the famous Dave Silver. Well,
give me, give me the story, Give me the story.

(21:04):
You're gonna say, Dave's not gonna remember this, and probably
he's not gonna like it. We were in Oakah.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Come on, we were in Oklahoma City together covering the
Softball World Series.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
And then you know, back then we were all great friends.
We all traveled together and there was no like animosity
towards stations. We all had a great time, and we
Dave and I went to dinner together and the server goes,
it's so great to see a father and son out.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, And I was like, that's not good. It was
a fun night.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
In fact, we all ended up, Dave, you'll remember this part.
The Big twelve baseball tournament was also in Oklahoma City,
and they have a great ballpark, and we called up.
I don't even remember who we called, Dave, you might Uh,
somebody gave us a sweet and so five or six
of us just went and sat up in the suite
and watched a great maybe couple of baseball games, and
just spent the evening in a beautiful little minor league
ballpark there and just had a great night.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
For sure. They have been a beautiful stadium down town.
You know, it's kind of hatched, kind of when you know,
when Tucson was looking with TP and all that kind
of stuff, And I remember coming home saying thinking to myself,
why didn't Tuson do this? I mean, it's so perfect,
just you know, in the heart of downtown, all kinds
of restaurants.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
They have a little river walk in Oklahoma, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
It was quite quite a spectacle.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, you could say that question to that facility. Although
it was nice, many many things, you know, why why
didn't Tucson do this?

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think even for me, what I remember specifically about
that ballpark was the facade. They made it look a
little bit like Arlington and the ballpark in Arlingtown. So
they had some penance and just like painted on white fencing.
It's just little simple things. You're like, it's just a
great touch. It's not a huge cost. It just makes
it feel bigger.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
The area, if you remember, it is called Bricktown. Yeah, yeah,
so you know it shoot in perfectly. I mean they
you know, they designed it with bricks and so you
had that look. And then Mickey Mantle's restaurant was like
around the corner, if I remember, yeah, even before the
thunder had arrived. I don't think I was there when
the sun I mean I remember they had the Arena.

(23:09):
It was already built before the the basketball team even
moved from Seattle, so Oklahoma City was kind of preparing
for that.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
So initially in trying to do the show and having
Jay on and first of all myself, I wanted to
have the kind of like a roundtable of you know, hey,
how you doing the guys, And he says, you remember
that day, you know, you know, back in my dad,
back in the day, nineteen sixty five, and Nicky Manna
hits that the home run or uh, that's kind of
so now I'm going to kind of do it today.
So Dave, and I don't think I've asked you this,

(23:39):
Uh what's what was maybe a story or two that
you did not not obvious like to you of a
or maybe it was that you really enjoyed doing back
in the day like that right away you have no
question of thinking of it.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, you know a story I did really really early
on when I got here. We had a guy in town.
His name was Marvin Christie. I don't know if he's
still around or he's still alive, but he was a
long distance bicyclist and there was a ride or it
wasn't even really a race, it was a ride called
Race Across America. Is it still around Okay, so what

(24:18):
I know, it's probably like forty years ago. I'm not kidding.
So he did it, and somehow another we really able
to get footage kind of as he was going along,
you know, from you know, Santa Monica to Washington, d C.
I mean something. I don't even know how we managed
to do it, but those are those are the kinds
of stories that you know, we've talked about this before,
how some of your best stories happened during the summer

(24:38):
when it's really slow with you of a you can
go out and find that kind of stuff. So that happened,
I want to say, probably July of nineteen eighty five
or something like that, Right, those kinds of stories were
some of.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
The best, right yourself?

Speaker 6 (24:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Easy for me.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Same as summertime. Channing Fry was in town and I
just asked Rich Page. I was like, hey, Canning just
to just kind of hang out with us for a
night in the summer. He can come to the station,
act like he's editing, and so he did and he's
like what he was like, I'm hungry. So Channing Fried
and our camera went for a ride and his lowrider
and we went to Taco Bell and so what was

(25:14):
the story Just kind of a day in the life
of you know, those guys were Dodge time, like he
was already out of here.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, you had a year ago.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
And so just that access and that trust that the
athletic department had in us, Like I don't I don't
remember seeing that story. Yeah, it was the summer. I
mean it was one of those we ran it probably
like July. And also you picked one of the best
dudes too. He wrote the top great quote. You know,
good dude, good family.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
And genuinely good guy.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Was with my daughter at the Phoenix Open last year
and he happened to be in the same place we were,
and he didn't remember my name, but he was like, hey,
we had a really great pier.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
He had a great chat. But yeah, that one I remember.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
I can remember one time where it was also in
the summer, and Sean Elliott was doing his internship with
an insurance guy here in town, and so we somehow
finagled our way into the offices and I mean we
were invited, but Sean was in there. You know, I
don't know if he's picking down claim numbers or whatever,
but he was that was his summertime job for at
least a few months. And I think, well, of course,

(26:18):
the last shot in the story was him, you know,
watching them a piece of paper and thrown into a
waste basketball. It was corny, but it was good and
it was different, and you know, yeah, yeah, perfect.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Those are any other ones that you come to mind,
I think on a saturder note, I just remember it
and remember getting really Dave, I think you were there
for this when baseball was still where now the practice
facility is for football. We were at a baseball media
day and who's the coach roably because it was still

(26:56):
you know, over there at Kendall and all of a
sudden ambulance has showed up on what is now Jim
Andez and all of that. And it happened during baseball
media day and my photographer walking out and there was
a kid and that kid passed away. I'm not gonna
say his name, right, it's up on the stadium. Yeah,

(27:17):
and the kid and I remember we had shot it
because we you know, were there and like yeah, sure,
And Jim Livenood called me like on my cell phone
and he's like you can't run.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I was like, we never would what did you have?

Speaker 4 (27:30):
We had footage of them trying to assess it, and
never we would have used it. And the only reason
I say that is like for me and I think
the positive I'll put on that spin is the trust
we had with the athletic departments as new Like we
valued that relationship of the ability to call up people

(27:51):
and have their personal numbers, or be on the plane
or be in the locker room after you know where.
We could call up dud or rich Page and say like, hey,
we would like to do this, and maybe it's not
right now, but they would always find a way. And
it really gave us the access, Like Dave was talking
about John Elliott at me with Tanning Fry, like it
allowed us to give the people of southern Arizona the

(28:11):
access they wanted to realize these are real people and
mostly their kids.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
They yeah, and doing kids stuff, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I mean we talked about Gilbert a little bit at Arenas,
like you'd say, you know, flash that braceist smile and
laughing and you're like, he's like twelve, kn't having fun?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Right? Well, I'm sure you just were there when Pokey
passed right, Yeah, we were outside outside of Michale with
all that. Yeah, I just mceed their banquet. Yeah, at
the old shoot. What was the name of that.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
It was five star over on the east side with
the boot room, Yeah, the tack room. And Pokey was
one of my favorite people. I mean there's been a
few of those, yeah, but I think the memories I
have is just being allowed on the inside and as
someone who grew up like idolizing hers and the Shawn
Elliotts and Steve Curse. I mean I remember, and I'll

(29:03):
go back to the positive. It's my last favorite. When
Steve Kurs still had his house on Third Street. Yeah,
I went to his house and we like played horse
in the backyard, like story store, a story of you know,
just the Steve Kerr and he just happened to be
home and said, yeah, he still had a place in
Tucson and solely and we did it like kind of walking.
The last shot was us walking in the driveway and

(29:25):
turning left and looking down towards the mall of like
Steve Curse still a part of the Tucson Faster SAMs
SAMs and like I can't imagine trying to do that today.
Can we go to Caleb Glove's apartment, well.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Another another players can actually afford one of those.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
One of my Steve curR stories was one of my
Steve curR stories was he was traded, you know, the
middle of the off season, and he was in town again,
probably in July or something like that, and we're trying
to get hold of and he goes, well, he's he's
having dinner at PF Chang Whytn's just come over and
at him there, so you know, which is okay, We'll
just drive over to be things. And he comes out like,

(30:05):
no big deal. And that's just the way he was
no matter what. Still he would still do it today.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean those guys were great.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I mean, and I think David and you were part
of the pathway of this is like they that used
to be the true trust of media and I feel
like that's that script is flipped now of question more
than like as we were talking about earlier, the gotcha
and what are you doing about this, like be careful
what you said versus the we're gonna try to tell
the positive stories and we know some negative like we knew,

(30:33):
we knew where some of the bodies were.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
We weren't talking about it because well, that's that's the
beauty or not beauty of a town like this, because
you know what's happening in other Lawrence, Kansas or or Austin, Texas.
You know, there's some people and then there's good journalists.
I'm not saying that we weren't at the time, but
we said what we had to stay. Depends what it was.
But we're all not so much in bed together, but

(30:57):
maybe a little flirting together. Yeah, it was, Dave.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
You might have been on this trip in Kansas in
two thousand and one, I think when it was when
it went to Kansas and Selim went off that many.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It was a couple of years later it was there.
I was not love candy Gate. Yeah, Candygate, right, So
that trip.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
So we were there and we got Roy the day
before and Kansas had like they were ahead of the
game because Roy was at this table in the front
of the room and there was like this auditorium and
you just sat in the back, and you know, you
didn't get to talk to Roy. And I was like, man,
we get to sit down with Loot every Monday, like
you're talking about the day before. Yeah, Okay, So like

(31:35):
the day before, Roy sat down with the media like
all like with everyone, and it was just like it is,
it is what it is now. They sit at a
table a couple of three questions and then they leave
out the back of the room. And I remember thinking,
after that game, we all just went in the locker room. Yeah,
like we were the actual locker room. And then you know,
the following Monday, we get one on ones. I remember, Davey,

(31:56):
you'll remember this. You know, back in the day before
mchaele's rented, we each kind of got a room. Yeah,
and Looke would just go to each one of us,
maybe we'd have fifteen minutes or so, and we chat
with him. And you know, I just remember thinking, man,
I did not know that, and I do not want
to take that for granted that we had that kind
of access.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, no question. Let me give you my Steve carry
a ton of them. I was there for a game
six when he hit the shot in Chicago, which was
great for me, but we're fun at the time when
he had his camps here, he always had his camps,
the saying great, ready to get work, and he'd have
like fifty sixty maybe one hundred kids and you know,
do his thing and be Steve Kerr. By the end
of the first day, he knew all the little kids' names.

(32:37):
Who in the right mind would come up with one
hundred names knowing exactly who the kids were. Yeah, but
that's who he is, exactly. Yeah, because that's who we think.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
They had name tags. I think, wasn't that Yeah, yeah,
I hope.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, he's going to make us look worse than they
already got. Well, you don't even the parents said to me.
The thing about it, I lovest knew every kids' names
and they didn't have name tags yet.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Well, Dave, he said to me, He said to me there,
he said to me there that you know, the kids
have no idea who I am, but their dads do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, that's fair, Dave.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna shift gears a little bit and
ask you, because you were one of the last to
be on billboards here in Tucson, UH and get recognized
in every restaurant you went to.

Speaker 13 (33:19):
What was that like?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Did you enjoy that piece of it?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
I know it's still the case because I've been around
you still in your since you moved on to U
of a and some other things, and people are still like, oh,
that's Dave Silver like in Hush Stones.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, was that fun for you?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Like Steve asked me earlier if I missed the TV part,
and there's certainly parts of what.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Was that like for you?

Speaker 6 (33:38):
It was it was a little bit weird. You know,
you really got to kick out of it. With my
mother when she came to visit, excuse me, she literally
would pull off the side of the road and take
a picture stuff like that. It was kind of strange.
But there's a coup that was a really nice one done.
In fact, I'm here in my little office here and

(33:59):
I've got it's me and it's Jennifer Waddell and Guy
Ashley and uh and Aaron Christiansen, and it's a really
good one. I think Dave Sinton's organization put that together.
So that was, you know, early two thousands. I guess
it's a really nice one. I mean it was just
pretty flattering. But yeah, there is a few kind of

(34:19):
weird ones, but nice ones. And you know, people do
still wonder like where, you know, aren't you still on
the news? I go, you know, it's been over ten years. Yeah, yeah,
so it is it's been kind of strange to get
that kind of reaction that people still do remember well to.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
My to my point, I also give David this grief
favorite O. Again he's low key, right, he's a low
key too. He's got another anti TV because he's just
kind of, you know, I'm doing my job blah blah blah.
Because we know those dudes that are not they're not
low key dude, A little little night turns on and
booth it's about me. Uh. The thing is, did you

(34:54):
have to pay for many meals or buy a drink
or two?

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Who are you asking?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
You?

Speaker 6 (34:58):
You?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You because of this was the case with that you're
talking about.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
No, that it didn't. It didn't go that far, I
don't think. I mean, there are a few perks to
the job, but usually free neils was not something if
they did, you know, yeah, you know it was like
unfair advantage or whatever. But no, it's it's been. It

(35:24):
was pretty People were pretty friendly, but not not to
that extent.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
I think my experience was I was there with Patty
Weiss at kVA, and that was I mean, I was
fortunate to go to dinner with her a few times,
and that was just like nothing else. I mean, she
was talk about star power and Tucson like everywhere that
woman went was you know.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's Patty Weiser and that little Dan.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
You know, I worked for Dan for her for many
years and Dan was to the extent where he really
wouldn't leave the station. He he would go cover a
few things, but he would say in the station most
of the time, send us out. He'd go to you know,
love you a football. But yeah, Dave, you were always
out of stuff. I always admired that about you. You
were everywhere.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
You like to go to things I did.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I really like to go. And you know I I
do remember Dan, you know, he would always be at
football games. Uh, he'd always there were things that we
were always together. I mean it was incredible for a
number of years and we have, you know, sadly we
lost him way too young. He was. He was a
good guy.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah, yeah, those like I said, the good old days.
One of these days we'll have to do a podcast
just called the Good Old Days. Get off my lawn.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but yes, yeah, come on the gravel,
Come on the gravel. Thanks Dave. We've got to go
and see you soon. You next week, Okay, thanks cool.
I don't I love those types of I don't know
if our listeners do, but they kind of like go
to a memory lane. Yea, with all that crap. It
gets me through the day of this show. Let's come

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Speaker 2 (41:20):
You insaid it like you meant it, and we got
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cool either it or yeah. So there's so many stories
that we didn't talk about there enough time. There's a lot.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I mean, I'm a Diamondbacks fan or like I hope
they keep sworez. We'll see, I mean major League Baseball
down when we got what tomorrow, I think it's six
Eastern is the trade deadline, So we'll see if there's
any major things.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
You do you you're because you're a fan, and I don't.
I don't think of best one. Do you get your
heart broken? No, I think disappointed, like you know, to
what level? To what level outside you? When I was
one's age, Yeah, like it would. I understand it would
ruin my day, like when Arizona. I think the worst
my worst defeat that I remember for Arizona was and

(42:12):
as I was too old to admit for this one
was the second lost to Wisconsin in the Elite day
in basketball. Yeah, Blair Willis and I were working baseball
that night for you of A, and we were watching
in the ad suite, you know, which is up there
and that, and like Blair is just some machines. So
it's like, all right, time to get to work.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
And I just sat there, going, this team deserves so
much better, and it was just like this empty feeling of.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And it's just over right, these high hopes.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
All right, we're going to get back to the Final four,
and like it's going to be a name boom, like, yeah,
that's that's the last time I remember going, this shouldn't
affect my mood this much.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Right, right? The first one, the first time, probably just
crushed you. Yeah, and it's like he didn't get in
the back of the head and you were extended and
you don't know what to do. I mean, it's heartbreak.
I remember.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I mean the first vivid one was the Oklahoma loss
in the Final four with Elliott and John.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You were just a kid.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
I was.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I was at my grandparents ranch up in northern Arizona
watching that game, going, I hate Stacy King.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Boki.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Yeah, but now I you know, I think it's again
with age quote unquote, Count Wisdom once you get.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
To my age, you'll say, you can't remember names.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
That game and again it's an Andy Lopez's home is.
It's a gameplay to young people. Like I've watched so
much sports and I will continue to for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I just love it. I'll be at everything, much like
David is.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Like listen, I got really fortunately, I got a job
where I get paid to go to these things because
I'd be there anyway.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
That's why I got into the Originally, you know, go
to games, you food to feed you, and you write
a story. Then I realized going and doing internships and
doing it's not all that.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yeah, I mean all that, and so I gosh, I
just love watching it and I love and I think
what I've realized is like, look, the best laid plans
of mice and men, He's gonna have a bad day
and that's it. Like I mean that team that came
after the surprise team with Arizona when they lost to
Utah the next year, Like, I mean that that team

(44:12):
should have won. And you're just like, hey, you know
the team that beat Duke, you know in Anaheim, the
Derek Williams, you know, Miracle game, Duke's a better basketball team.
They were a better basketball team. They had a great day.
Dude probably hates that day. There was a tweet yesterday
of going, what's the sports moment that makes you throw
up in your mouth a little bit? And it was
just a thread of things national. I was just you know,

(44:35):
so I think I think it was maybe an ASU,
one of their folks. I think I noticed it because
it came up with like, you know, you of a
like ruining one of their Like I think it was
when we stormed the field and won the Pac twelve South, like,
you know, beating ASU that game. And I think it
was the fourth down. It was like fourth and goal
from the one, and they stopped him early in that game.
And I was like, oh man, what would be my

(44:55):
throat in my mouth? And I was like it came
to me and it's an old one. But it was
in Arizona in that thirty seven and three year lost
in the pit in New Mexican.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
It was nineteen eighty Yeah, in nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
It was the one they're number one, Yeah, they're and
bring number one and it was the first time and
you just like they just it was one of those
games where you just you thought, oh, they're gonna come back,
they're gonna do this, They're going to do this, and
it just like kept getting worse.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That's my first year here. I remember that very well
because they were number one for the first time. It
was that or.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
And I don't know why this one specifically, but the
Coastal lost in twenty sixteen in the World Series. Yeah,
and you're kind of going it was right there.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
They had it.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
You know, the the baseball gods were in Coastal's favor
because of the storm the night before and their ace
wouldn't have been able to throw. And he came out
that next day and threw a gym and but we
still had chances. And they're you know, an aer late.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Throw that question out, Maybe get a couple of cushas.
What's the throw out to? Yeah, give you the question.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, what's the what's the moment that makes you throw
up in your mouth a little bit about your team?
Like you're a Broncos fan, like what's your Broncos Like? Oh,
that probably I think about that Ravens one. Yeah, no,
I think it was a wild card. Joe Flack with
just throws it up. Yeah, probably, should have been an interception.
I mean, you know, it's like, for if you hate
the Giants, it's you know that Tyree helmet catch.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Shit.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Oh you know you know what that that Seahawks super Bowl. Yeah,
just from the start. You didn't even give yourself a chance.
It goes right over Peyton Manning's head and just over right,
it's over. It's over twelve seconds into the game.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah. Oh, I remember that about you. You've seen a
lot once one of your throat moments. I don't know,
I don't have to be a kid because I didn't
care anymore as an adult. Well, probably the Dallas Cowboys
loosening to the Steelers in like seventy something, seventy six
or seventy five. That was you know, that was other
than that. God, there's gotta be more. I don't I
don't follow it like you guys. I don't care. I

(46:46):
don't care. I don't care in that hurt way anymore.
You know.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, maybe I'll get there, you will. It's really it's
not as much anymore. Like you know, watching Arizona in
the World Series this year, like you're going, Hey, they
played hell of a season.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
They really great? Is this you said? This earlier in
the discussion you you know how the secret sauce is made.
You should know better because you know too much or
you knew too much, and you said, oh yeah, I
kind of knew that was gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Yeah, I mean you watch the games, like, you know,
one of my friends we were kind of we kind
of got on this text thread and he said the
Bucknell Arizona loss in the n I t AT and
I was like, you could have called that a million
miles away, Like that one didn't surprise me very much,
like that they didn't want to be there, and another
one of them throughout the Buffalo loss in the first round,

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like only because the.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Week before they played out of their mind in the
Petrol tournam.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
You're just like, okay, you know, I mean, and that
is the blessing, the curse of seeing practices and seeing
it all, and like, you know, people ask me, how
what do you love about the bull And I was
like I can pretty much tell you who's gonna win
watching them get off the bus, like yeah, yeah, I've
been around sports enough to like to see like leave,
but it's.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Right and time and circumstance things like that.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Yeah, you can kind of just tell like who wants
to be there, who wants to be around. But again,
it's one of the things I love, like as soon
as the teams get off the bus for the Bowl,
they go into a coaches meeting and the coach addresses
the team and it's just a closed door meeting. It's
kind of the x's and o's of here's what the
week is going to look like, here's your emergency people,
here's the ball personnel. And watching how a coach's team
reacts to the coach in that meeting always tells me.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I'm like, oh, they're in, they're locked in. Well, how
old were you in ninety four, ninety three, and eighty
four high school? High school? So you saw the football
team go to the festival and I went to the
game and I was there. Yeah, we say this, man,
we didn't want to be there.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
No, yeah, I mean we talk about it in the
Bowl like in my industry all the time, like it's like, oh,
these upsets you hang your hat on and you're like, yeah, well,
it's it's a historic season for one team who gets
an opportunity to go and win this game. Have like
we talked about a ten win season, a double digit
win season, which is only going to happen a handful
of times in history, versus a team who's seven and five,

(48:58):
six and six and had much higher aspirations. Yeah, and
you watch it going and you're like, oh, yeah, they
got a chance. Like I think it's where you know,
it's one of the reasons we're not allowed to better.
You know, too much of secrets behind it.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
People talk about that, say, well, the injuries and all
that stuff about the injuries. Yeah, it's about other things circumstances.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, you can watch practice and you're going, Okay, they're
they're number three quarterback too most of the raps, so
they may start number one, but he hasn't really thrown
a competitive pass in a month, so it's different. I mean,
Kevin was talking about BYU earlier and in the rets
left situation, like we'll see.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I mean b YU they have some horses.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
They always seem to have some horses, and if nothing else,
that team is just always ready to play people Like
that's when I look at games, like why do I
pick by b YU is a loss versus Kansas is
more a question mark because b YU is a culture,
like they're they're ready.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
To play for people. They'll find a way to find
a quarterback. Yeah, like their their culture.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Like they're like, you're not blowing BYU out ever, like
you your assessment is spot on.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, and so Kansas.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
But you never know, Like Jalen Daniels, he's an emotional kid,
like you can come out and have a fantastic game,
play out of his mind or he can make you know,
we saw the Dolores throw foreigner receptions in the first half,
but like you know, it's one of those games.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, and you've seen this because one of the biggest
advices that we've received is you're not going to bed
money on a guy who's eighteen nineteen years old because
of motions.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Yeah, you don't know that day, that morning, that night,
what's gonna happen. It's the Andy Lopez. It's it's a
game played by young people. Yeah, like the girl may
have just left them and blah blah blah, he.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
May have gotten the bad ta. Yeah, yeah, I just
slept wrong. Whatever. You never know. A kid just a kid, Okay.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I one throw up moment that I think about a
lot is the half court for Issue Basketball when they
came in to so yeah, you could you could have
seen as a potential loss just because of given that
team year. But the way it happened, it was, it
was I was walking out and I was truly disgusting just.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Letting him hang around, hang around, hang around. Yeah, but yeah,
tough even just the play itself.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
How the material he took about three dribbles into a
regular shot.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
Yeah, well, this world, thanks to the Steph Curry is
like half courts. Nothing for these guys when you watch
every Arizona practice now and they end shooting half courts
like every practice.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Part of that story, though, for me, the funniest part
was was because we're right there right behind the bench, right, yeah,
you were there. You went to so so uh Bobby
Heardy who gets grief all the time on that side
of the bench. Right Yeah, he stormed. He was cheering, cheering,
doing his things, and then came back and got in
front of the fans. I told you, because he got

(51:48):
his whatever you got, they give it to him.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
You gotta give it a little bit back on the
flip side, was at I don't know if you were.
Were you in Phoenix when Miles Simon shot against the Sinnati.
I was I started covering in ninety one. That game
and at this time the moments are more of wow moments,
like the shot. We talked about Stanford and again Robinson,
I was there. Yeah, I was at that game. Yeah

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we gotta go. We'll go to do this again. Yeah,
another time, going back in the day. Thanks everybody,