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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fIF day.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, welcome back to I'm the ball around Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today's Blake Eager.
I love the discussion. I know it's not about sports,
but let me see if I can get some callers
who have been around for a while and maybe I've
had some experiences with some of the sports events that
we've had here forever. The old Toros, the sidewinders, the

(00:33):
pro volleyball people from back in the day, right, the
pro softball people that was at High Corbitt Right. I
don't know it's before my time, but you know the
Suaro's now, there's a lot of things on this plate
that could be you know, talked about. You know, the
sugar skulls, those roadrunners, all these your group now with

(00:53):
the WBC so much potential. So it's not a it's
not a hey, I got to get mind, Thane. This
is everybody's in the same plate, that's the same boat.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's some one thing that I think Tucson does better
than almost anywhere else to the most degree. When you're
talking about this is it's they're pretty everybody's pretty selfless, right, Yeah.
I mean Bob Bob Hoffman with the Roadrunners literally will
bend over backwards, give you a shirt off, and be like,
don't worry about it, we'll figure it out. I mean,
we were going through it with the WBC kickoff event
and he's just like, I don't know what your budget is.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But this is what we'll do. We'll do this for you,
and he takes care of you, right, So let me
I'll throw maybe a loophole in this whole thing. Don't
you think let's say, twelve twelve entities here at the table,
do you think that they're so busy worrying about themselves, Yeah,
that they'll help solve or help pull the rope together.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, you actually.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean that's why you need you need community leaders
at the table, and then you need a separate entity altogether.
That says, Okay, I'm going to compile all this data
and all this information you just threw out there and
let me get back to you with maybe where you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Things not the best way right or could do better? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes total sense because you're,
like you said, the what's the first order of business,
the goods and the bad souff.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean think about it. We've had I
mean we've had some Look at Pima Community Colleges last year,
how great did their outside?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
In fact, I was with someone from Pima yesterday saying
what a great, great.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Year it was.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I talked to Ken hackmy all last night. You know,
it's just it's blown away. How do we get them,
how do we get people more involved?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Let me tell you something. That's a group that wants
to be at the table. Yeah, because they've always been
not always most up until the last few years, they've
been kind of like the step child because they're under
the shadow of Arizona. But the success hasn't been like
it is now.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean it's one of the premier junior colleges in
the country.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, I mean you're looking across the board. I can't
name a team that did poorly over there. It's just
it's wild. So yeah, I think it's a perfect time
to kind of to do that, to start it and
see where it goes. And I'll be brutally honest with you, Steve,
I'll do some research on it, but I don't really
want to go in there saying this is how we
have to do it. You really want to just go
in there asking questions and learning and saying, Okay, maybe

(03:09):
we try this.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
You know who else is doing this?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Has it worked?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I mean it's like you know, I John Schmieder is
a guy in Phoenix that runs Huddle Up. He used
to run the Tulsa Sports Commission. He's a Tucson guy.
Went to Sabino, but I call him, you know, not
all the time, but a lot, just to talk to
him and pick his brain about a sports commission, what
that would look like, what could we do better? I mean,
he's so well connected. It's asking those people want to
be part of this community. Sarah de with Garman, who

(03:34):
was part of the Kansas City Sports Commission. She's like,
you have no idea what you guys have in Tucson.
You literally have this, this diamond in the rough that
could compete against everybody because the facilities, you have, the weather,
you have all the location, and you just need somebody
that's kind of leading the job.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
How did it get to this point? What do you mean, Well,
hasn't happened yet, so how did it get here.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, I don't know you for another show. No, the
only thing you know, I don't know. I don't know that.
I think that's a deeper dive conversation.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
It is that we could offend some people just and yeah,
and I so say that could offend some people and
be wrong.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, I will say this. I think there's a there's
somewhat of a perfect storm right now. You have some
really really great people that are all trying to do
the same thing or that are having these open conversations.
I mean the counties, I mean Jen Lesher and Carmine
Damonas are phenomenal with all these things bringing new opportunities.
You have Sarah Horvat's a Kino sports complex and her

(04:32):
whole team and I said it today and I'm being honest,
they literally are the gold stander for stadium districts.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's just it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
And then you have other people in the surrounding communities
that are all like, okay, let's do it, Yeah, let's
figure it out.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I mean, you've got so many great partners in our
area that are that want to be at that table.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, no, no, okay, we'll probably talk about this more
as all he comes in and because you know he's
full of ideas and good ideas, you know, sometimes out
of the box. It doesn't make sense that you look
at against his you know what, that's a pretty good
idea and he wanted to bring I.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Don't was that the Raiders?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh yeah, oakand Raiders like a yeah, they or.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Something I can't remember. It's not crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
No, No, you're thinking, damn, how come I couldn't I
think of that?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I couldn't have thought of that. Yeah, and he
I mean with all E you're getting, you're getting all E.
It's not this, it's not it's not. What you see
is what you get. And that's why he's so successful,
right can I So last week, I know I wasn't
able to make it in, but you did have my
buddy Robbie mohan On, right, Yeah he was great. Yeah,
he is great. So it's it's wild Robbie's Robbie is great.

(05:34):
And if you look at his kind of body of work,
you kind of forget, I mean, how how great he
was at the University of Arizona. Right, I think he's
third all time and hits some all those things. But
I just wanted to share the story and it so
off topic, but I wanted to say it before I forgot.
Uh So he the ninety three U of A baseball
team had a they had a little reunion, right, So
they came in they played golf, and I was fortunate

(05:55):
enough that George Arias and William Morales and and Rob
and h Robert Lemon and those guys are kind of
my friends. So I got invited to go out and play.
And so, you know, we play our round. It was great.
There was I think four four sim's were playing, you know,
all the scratch and all this stuff. And then so
afterwards we're having lunch, and uh so I have to leave, right,
and so I want to be very kind. There's a

(06:17):
lot of people in there that I looked up to,
Todd Brown, who's the head coach of the New Mexico,
like guys that I've had these conversations in touch with
from Afar and or have watched growing up. And so
I'm leaving right and I give this like little speech like, hey,
I just want to let you guys know that when
I was growing up, I watched you because ninety three
was the best offense, maybe your best offensive team everde
So I was like, yeah, it's great, thank you so
much for including me, Like this is amazing. And in

(06:38):
the background I hear somebody go, he just wants to
get invited next year.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Again, that's why I say this. And I was like,
you're not wrong. I'd probably be your yeah somewhere around there.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah. Yeah, well but I mean my dad took me
those games all the time at Frank's. That's sure.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
You know. We talked about that all last week because
of the baseball team. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't seem that
long ago, but it's thirty two years ago.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I don't want to. I mean, and you we don't
have to put numbers to it. Steve, So what do
you think? What do you think about the baseball? Have
you been watching the College World Series?

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Probably too?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Like in and out? I stopped, well, I kind of stopped.
I'm not a big college baseball fan. Yeah you said that,
which is kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
But after U of A was done, I just, yeah,
you I don't have all of tucsons. Yeah, but now
we have what Arkansas and LSU and the two teams at.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Coastal Carolina and in Louisville. But I think Coastal Carolina
was up six nothing today when I.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Go, yeah, just and if you could do it at
Coastal Carolina and baseball, you can do it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
But it's not Listen, that's not People are like, oh,
they're underrated. I'm like, no, they're a number thirteen team
in the country. They've won a World Series in the
last ten year. You know, they beat us for a
World Series, which I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
And baseball is different because you played the game, and
you know how different it is.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
You could have just a rag tag dudes that can play. Listen,
I've some of the best teams I had and ever
played on were guys that had no business probably played baseball.
But it was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do whatever
it takes to win this game for my timemate. And
that was amazing, right, Yeah. I mean I was fortunate
enough to win a couple of championships. We won a
championship and winter ball in Hawaii, and it was all

(08:06):
I mean, all those guys went on to be All
Stars in the big leagues and I mean you've got
tenures and all those things, but we just were having
fun together.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, you know, no, no.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
It brings to me to as you say this, that
brings me to the point that I bring this whole time,
even though he can't defend himself. It's Jay because he
tells me, you look good, play good, blah blah blah.
And I'm thinking, give me a glove, give me some cleats,
put some shorts on me. I'm gonna run right through you,
because yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you've got
you've probably done both ways where you have these dudes
that are just dogs and will do anything to win,

(08:36):
and you have the dudes who dress up and you
put the stirrups and blah blah blah. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I listen, I played with this guy from Coaches College
and and this is summer ball in Northwoods, which you've
got you know the cape CODs number one Northwoods and
number two. So we were both very fortunate because I
was at Eastern and he was at Coach. He's very
fortunate because their pitching coach was the head coach out there,
brought us over. If he didn't get hit by a
pitch at least twice a game, he was pissed off
like that's he was like I'm getting on. I'm gonna
steal second. If there's a ground ball, I'm taking the

(09:02):
short stop. I'm going cleats up like just I wanted to.
So I've had this conversation with uh, this high school
senior the other day that plays baseball and football. I said,
it's so great from a baseball standpoint to have a
football mentality, right, like if you can have that dual sport,
but football mentality is like I'm gonna run through you.
If you have that mentality in baseball, you are going

(09:25):
to be really successful, no question now, because they're just dogs.
They're just dogs.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah. And then if you're pissed at the end of
the game, so you got beat like that, yeah, yeah,
yeah because you didn't do it. Yeah, Tomor are gonna
come back. I'm gonna keep Yeah we used to. Maybe
I shouldn't tell this on there.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
So, So when we were in so I uh for
summer ball in Northwoods. We I played in Waterloo, which
is great. They drew fifty five hundred fans a game
in college. Coming from Eastern Arizona Community College to that
was this like you're in pro baseball, right, It was amazing.
But there was a group of us like minded individuals
that would like to hang out after the games, right,

(10:01):
And we got to know the clubby there really well,
and we got to know the ownership of the group,
and they liked us, so.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
We would.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
They would end up giving us the key to the
bar after saying so we would go out after the
games and then go back to the stadium and hang
out and drink. And but it was a whole team effort, right,
So it wasn't What I'm getting at is that you
don't bond because you're on the field together. You bond
because you go through these things and you have honest conversations,
you have real talk and you and it's outside the game.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So those things matter. And it doesn't have to mean
you have to drink. You're just a part of it,
no question. In fact, that's a secret weapon. That's what
people don't talk about. Oh, you guys are all good
at I can't tell you how many good teams I've
covered they didn't have that. And you could tell they
don't have that.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
They don't talk to each other, they're not sticking around
playing cards right after the game.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
I mean, that was the greatest.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
That was the funnest part people ask me, do you
miss professional baseball?

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I mean, I love you and I and I was
really good at it. I love on the mount, but
I love the camaraderie because you have people from all
over the world. You know, English is the second lane,
with religious beliefs, political beliefs, all different, all sitting at
the same table playing cards, having an honest conversation and
then not always agreeing, right, but coming to some kind
of a solution, not always agreeing. But the thing is,

(11:17):
if somebody attacked your brother, dude, you're the first game over. Yeah,
you're the bullpen.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
There's a there's a reason why when you go to
bars with baseball teams, you're like, I'm not just fighting you.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I'm gonna fight twelve for you. And you're probably not
good fighters, but it's gonna be tough to be twelve
with you up. Right?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Are the guys behind me are helping me?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
No? No, I mean that's part of part of sport, right.
You just kind of you're one, one for all, all
for one. Yeah, and you can tell who's not in
because they're either trying to do their own thing, yeah,
and that person usually gets a pretty strong conversation or
talking to right, you don't have to collapse and do it,
but you can't be the outside the having covered thousands
of thousands of games, the one thing I hate the most,

(11:57):
And what does it matter to me or to anybody
what I like or don't like. But when you have
the athlete at the podium looking up their stats, yeah,
looking up their stats, looking up down and go, okay,
nobody cares. Nobody cares because you either won or you lost. Right,
tell me how you feel about to win, tell me
how they lost, whatever.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
But but you know, it's not about you.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
One of the things that I had now during the draft,
and I say this every now and again, Richard Jefferson. Okay,
so he's a junior. They're playing the two thousand and
one NBA file National Championship with Gilbert and Luke and
then Laura and all these guys and one of my colleagues,
national colleagues. Because he's gonna go the NBA. Look at
his stats. He's twelve, twelve points a game, seven rebounds, whatever,

(12:39):
he's not ready. The numbers don't show that. It's not
about the numbers. Now, look, I'll give you a perfect utter.
Bryan Carter Bryant exactly. You rid in my mind numbers
he wasn't even a starter. He's gonna be in the
top twelve.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, I mean the combine changes everything, right, sure, NFL,
especially NBA, NBA.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
How far did you go? Double double A?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
If you like, if you are good enough to be
in the major leagues, would you have played in the
major leagues? I was good enough to play in the
big leagues. So if someone screwed on my labor, I
mean that was onto my courage. You know, people, if
you're good enough, guess what they do. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
So if not for bad luck or whatever.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
It wasn't bad. I mean it was you know, it's life.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
But yeah, I mean yeah, people asked me that they
used to have I used to coach with the guy
he pointed out out all the time, and I was like,
you haven't you think you should know the situation before
you say that to the people. But yeah, I mean,
people will find you. I mean, I listen. I played
at Eastern Arizona, right, I didn't have a scholarship out
of high school.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Nobody was recruiting me.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I had a family friend and Jeff Stanley that gave
me an opportunity that knew coach back now at Eastern.
He came out and watched me pitch in the summer
league game. And then after that game, I think I've
told the story. You know, our players are in a
fistfight with Amti High School's parents and I'm having this
conversation I have to walk on. I mean, I was
I had Western, I mean coaches College's coach gave me

(13:57):
a chance to play in the Northwoods League.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
You know, it's so like, if you're good enough and
you have the drive and you.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Listen, I tell this to everybody, you have to love it, Like, yeah,
it's gonna be some crappy living at times. It's going
to be crappy ups and downs. But if you truly
love it and you find a way, there's opportunities.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Let me ask you, so, how many in fact to
somebody over the weekend, and we're talking about in the
NBA A lo, let's say there's five hundred people in
the rostaurant that a lot of them don't love it.
They're just good at what they do.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's a business. Yeah yeah, in your world you've seen that.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh yeah, absolutely, they don't love it, but they get
that they play because it's a good living.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, there's I mean, there's players I played with. I
played with the second rounder who hated baseball and couldn't
two years afterwards, quit and gave away half his bonus,
like you're talking at that point, I think it was
six hundred thousand he had to give back to New
York Mets because he hated it. He didn't want to play.
He was just better than everybody else at it, which
is wild to me. Could you ever imagine, like there's

(14:52):
nothing in life that I'm much better than everybody else at.
I could never imagine hating something so much and still
be better than ninety nine point percent or ninety nine
point nine percent.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, here's what I is. When I go out to
dinner or whatever, especially when I was married, people come,
can we talk about excuse me? I hate to bother you,
but yeah, and then they bother you like my wife
at the time hated it because no, I don't really
want to talk about sports.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I talk about it too much. It's all the time.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, So that's why when you when we talk about
this outside, then people talk about like I don't. The
best is like when you have people in their professional community,
when people come up to you and they're like, oh, yeah,
I you know I. Then there are there's authentic people,
and there's people that are trying to tell you and
how to do your job, and you're.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Like what happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
And then but you have other people that are like
I only played baseball or whatever in the little league
and you're like, yeah, that doesn't matter, and they just
want to have a conversation, right.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I love those people.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The other side of it, when people are like, you know,
you should do this or this, you should this is
why he's failing.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'm like, where did you? Like you have?

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Foxports fourteen fifty Steve Rivera your blake eager. We're waiting
for all of I hope he got his message to call.
Maybe maybe taking a nap. Maybe he's taking a nap. Yeah,
I don't think he's staying a nap. He's probably doing
something more important. Yeah, like taking a nap. That's more
important to me. Let's let's talk about that. How often
in your life do you get to take a naps?

Speaker 13 (21:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I don't, But I love that. There's the best. Love him,
even if it's a twenty minute nap, it doesn't matter.
It's a power. Now. I used to do the when
I worked at the paper. I did it, you know,
to get my energy back, you know, I because you know,
when you're in the sports writing business, you're going to
sleep at two in the morning, and you're waking.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Up late, and you gotta be ready to go at
any time if a story pops up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
and especially nowadays. I'll tell you, man, I don't care
what people say. The Europeans have figured out they get
a little css, they get a two hour they get
a two hour lunch.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, oh god, right, find me out it is. You're right, Yeah,
I missed those impact. In fact, Kevin covering Dick told
me he used to do that in his office. Shut
the door at the couch there, boom, and he was
ready to go to practice.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
How great was Dick tomy are?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
We talked about that yesterday because we had rich Tony
on yesterday. Yeah, no, fantastic, you had rich On great
baseball player. Yeah. Now he's got that the coaching founder
Coaching Alliance. Yeah yeah, it's really good, done, really well. Yeah,
he's ups. I'm trying to get a move back to Tucson. No,
he's got a lot of stuff going on. He's very successful.
But that's another thing. I mean you just like I said,

(22:20):
you have a lot of people who are involved in
these things. They just need more people more. How can
I say this more brighton minds?

Speaker 4 (22:29):
We you and I have talked about it.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Think about think about the people that were successful here
that went on to become multi multi multi millionaires or billionaires. Right,
there's been a few, Yeah, like a few, Sam Fox.
It's funny because there was a list just on.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
The internet Time five top five ARTI Marine and he
was like the guy that owned he was number two.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
The guy that owns Carvana, who's number one.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I didn't even know who the heck he was two.
Zoning the guy that started airs on ice K did
have the New York Giants, New York Jets guy, yeah,
you know, and then they had the Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, but the problem is who's reaching out to
them saying like, this is a community that you left,
but you could be back down.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So funny because there's a lot of money there. I'm
sure you have a if they're connected to you, a
ay has.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You know, there's a lot of success and I'm you know,
we're obviously having a conversation about bringing something back or
coming back into the community, but just leadership, right, like
these were two zon ins, they were two zonings. Look
at them, now, how did they get from point A
to point B. You know, well, I'm telling you I
have two cousins as a teacher. What's a door if
you go and you try to do and you hey,

(23:38):
I kind of use my women analogies. If you don't
go ask them to dance, Now, how do they know
you're a good dancer?

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
And you got to go and fail, you gotta go fail.
I'm afraid of failure, but I've been there, done that,
and it's it's tough, but it's also helped me do
other things.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, it's hard for me to be afraid of failure
after being a baseball player, where you all you ever
do is just fail, right, and people are like, I failed,
I'm damn okay. Well to pitch, yeah, I've given up
some home runs that haven't landed yet, like so yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, and situational stuff no, no, you have to kind
of just forget about it, Broda Belding, and forget about
your successes too, because those are fleeting.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
My wife reminds me of that. So we're good there.
Because you're married.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I don't know, I mean she's never taken care less.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
I mean that's a good thing for me.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
So you and her do you guys go with former
friends the pitched or played.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I've got a pretty I've got a little group that
are all ex guys.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So so let me ask you. Do they get into
those oh back in the day, you know, remember that
time and the wife are saying, oh, shut.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
My wife would say that with my high school friends
when we because we only see each other maybe like
once a year when we get together, it's kind of
that way. And my wife's like, I'm going to go
ahead and skip this one. I don't I don't need
to hear any of this stuff. And I'm like yeah,
and she's like, I could probably recite it orbat him
for what you've said already.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
No.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Like Anthony Vega, who's my best friend, played for the Orioles.
He's a Long Island guy from New York. We we
rarely like. He doesn't watch baseball anymore, so we talk
a lot. And we're in like three fantasy football leagues,
so we'll talk about that, or we talk about kind
of just what's going on in the world. My other buddy,
Jared McDonald, who's now the heading coach at Utah State
for the women's softball team. He just got that job.

(25:24):
I talked to him yesterday and we just talked about
you know, yeah, softball. Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's a
great job. Yeah, it's a great job. So what about
you about like when you get with your friends, is
it the romancing of the I.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Don't have a friends. No, I don't talk about anything.
I don't I don't talk to anybody.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I know it's wild.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I know you don't strike me as an introvert, but
I get I get it.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I just kind of you know, yeah, it's okay. I
invited George Arias.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I was like, hey man, you need to come to
this last night, right, And then Edgar shows me a
picture and they were facetiming.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
He's laying on his couch.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
I was like, thanks, thanks George for getting off your
butt and coming here.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Too busy.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So I've had him on the show and he's difficult
to have a conversation with.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Georgie.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
He's very soft spoken and yeah, and he but he
is he is. But you can get him riled up
talking about golf. You know how good he is a
golf plus free.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
You could tell he's a good Yeah, good athletes you
can play golf, yeah, because they hit the crap out
of it, and they're smart and they know stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, he needs to get on the champions to where
if he can.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, you know, good athletes, they're not afraid to fail into.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
He can't be a good athlete if you're afraid to fail.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
No, I mean they just beat the crap out of
the ball and said, guess what I'll do another one.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
You might break some clubs going along the way. So yeah,
and they're good at everything. Yeah, it takes time. You've
got to fail to get better at things. So let
me ask you this, Steve, and we're talking about something,
we're talking about all these things. You've been here long enough.
Does it feel different right now to you from a
community standpoint, Tucson as a whole, as a sports community

(26:57):
than it has in the past.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
No question. If back then was a three, this is
at least a seven.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
And I'm not a politics I hate politics. I hate politics,
but it's unavoidable now. But back then there was it
was political. You could tell right downtown stadium over here, stadium,
YadA YadA. And maybe that was a big fail. Not
maybe it was a big fail because we know the
results here, we know the actual results We don't know
if it would have failed Downtown. Maybe it would have.

(27:26):
We don't know that, right, Yeah, you know, so here
we are with no question, very much potential for success. Now.
I think you have the principals who really want to
push it and make it happen. But to your point
with Austin or maybe Boulder or whatever, this place can
be that I didn't leave. I went to USA today

(27:46):
and DC came back because I loved this place only
because now it's home and I don't want to leave.
But this place has so much and I have, you know,
twenty more years life maybe, But you can see the
potential here. But you need people like you, guys who
can think out of the box and say let's try this.
Let's try this, and we have some money coming in,
or we can get some money, we can generate some

(28:07):
money to make this happen.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, I mean Edgar Soto said this really early on.
He's like, well, why don't we try to go after
an NBA team? I go, it's never gonna happen. No,
And it won't happen no.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
But you know what.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Happens when you have that conversation is things come to
the table. You bring people to the table having those conversations.
Well yeah this NBA, No, but why not this?

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, why not an exhibition game? Why not having the
suns come back down here? Was good at that And
you probably knew him sitting. Yeah, nbelief, you've sitten all
the the new Dave sitting. Dave came out and said, Okay,
let's go do it, let's get it. Yeah, blah blah blah.
Dave used to come into U. I used to run
an indoor facility called the Yard East. He used to
come in and hit uh oh really yeah, batting practice?

(28:48):
Is that the indoor place? Where is it at?

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Used to be on golf links and like past Ponta talk.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Okay, it's funny because as little as I know, when
you you almost less than a year now, you do
think that way. You think out of the box, and
you know it takes your swings. You're gonna take your hacks. Yeah,
and if you hit the ball, you hit the ball.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I mean, there's there's there's different ways to get to
your destination, right, and I think our destination is a
better community.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, it's funny because you talk about that guy that
wants to get hit by the ball or whatever. His
job is to get on base. That's steal second.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Get score on a base hit, steal second steal signs
from the catcher, give it to the hitter, right people.
People hated on the field, but after the off the field? Yeah,
smart base. Yeah, why isn't he on my You want
that guy on your tea. You only hate him because
you want him on your team. That's why I want
two soon to be I want the rest of the
United States to be like I hate two song, but
not because they're doing things wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Soon Yeah, find a way, find a way and make
it work.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I mean, think about Steve, you think about all the
things weaken off because we're just talking about sports. But
I mean, how many cities as side have a national
park Inspacker.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I don't know, if any, I don't know. Right, so
you've got some national part. Then we got a call,
got a call. Hello, you're on the air and line
on the ball.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Who's this?

Speaker 14 (30:08):
That's Richard?

Speaker 7 (30:09):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Hey, he talking about that.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
You know.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Oklahoma City is my hometown. And they have done a
remarkable job there. They had a lot of extra land.

Speaker 14 (30:17):
That they could do things on.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
They're very fortunate. Uh. And they also had ten years
of an oil depression that they used to do their planning.

Speaker 14 (30:26):
But one of the things I think we could use
downtown and.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Here there are some more tactile events.

Speaker 14 (30:31):
For example, Okahoma City has.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
These giant climbing structures. You strap a harness on, you
climb this thing up and you take a zip line
down several hundred yards, or you go have these giant
slides that go down three or four stories. Then they
also have a ferris wheel down on down by downtown
now by the park. Uh, the old Santa Monica ferris wheel.

Speaker 14 (30:53):
That's pretty fun. It's all lit up at night and so.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Or you know, we could have a wave machine or something.
There's things could be doing.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, no question. When was the last time you lived
in Oklahoma City?

Speaker 14 (31:07):
Oh, it's it's been forty years.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
See Okay.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Roan Arizona. Now, you know, I've watched what they've done.
I'm familiar with the people who did it. And the
biggest dan is they also have. And you guys were
talking about all these billionaires there who you may in
Oklahoma City. The people donate back to the city, the
oil company people, they've given tens and tens of millions
of dollars to build boat houses at downtown o Coome

(31:33):
City on the o Canadian River. Donate tons of money.
That's what we don't have here. So let me ask
you now we're missing.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
That, Richard. So how long have you been in Tucson?

Speaker 12 (31:43):
That long?

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
So let me ask you what what do you like
the most about Tucson?

Speaker 14 (31:51):
Well, uh, just it feels good.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
I like, I don't mind going downtown and and enjoying
that They've done a lot of great things, and but
I love the outdoors here.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
I'm an old landscapeer Steve Landscape Homes.

Speaker 14 (32:03):
For thirty five years and Tucson, Okay, So I've.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Been out there every day, you know, and I've been
helping to try to build p mccounty and Tucson, Arizona
the best I can. Okay, So what do you make
life better for my clients? So?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Know, what do you think would be your first work
of order to improve?

Speaker 14 (32:19):
Well, I think what I just started talking about downtown.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
We need a plan. I'm more of a tack file
plan with some kind of physical things to do if
we can find.

Speaker 14 (32:30):
A space for it, and just a sort.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Of a revamping a rebranding maybe where we have an
overall design and plan and maybe there is one.

Speaker 14 (32:40):
I just don't know about it.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yeah, you know, right, Okay, thanks Richard, ok thank you,
thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Thank you. Good ideas, no great ideas. I mean Richard's right.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I mean I think there's a story that we were talking,
we were reading about with Oklahoma City that I think
when they were looking at maybe expansion early on in
the NBA or something else somebody maybe it was baseball,
they went there and they looked at Oklahoma City and
they left and they said, sorry, we're not gonna pick it.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
There's nothing to do here. It's a boring city.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
And the city said, okay, here we go and they
completely over did, like redid the city. I mean it
is for me saying that it takes a lot, right,
because I do. I enjoy Oklahoma City. It's a great
little it's a great city. It's a great place to be.
Two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, softball, yeah right, yeah, NBA file like at Omah
Yeah right. I mean those worst place I've ever had
from a food standpoint. I mean just awful food, terrible food.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
But I mean, if you ever get a chance, have
you been there during the cultural he is crazy, there's
so much going on the whole city. Was like, and
that's what we do for the gym show, right, if
we did that for other things, like we were just
bought into it and said this is gonna be crazy
touson Meet Yourself is it's an unbelievable event. Everybody buys
into it. Four thousand New Street Fair. Let's buy into
these things. But Richards Wright, I think you've got You've

(33:52):
got some leaders down downtown, especially like Rio Nuevo, that
are looking to do new things and different things that
I think they need. They need to have somebody that
tells the story of why they're doing things, because I
know you probably read the article about the border Lands
Brewery and what happened, but you nobody knew the whole truth.
If the truth would have come out first, you would
have been like, Oh, this makes all the sense in
the world. They're here to give us different things, give

(34:14):
us different operations. But I was going to say this
to Richard, and he's right about that, because there's a
time during the year is when the ice rink and
the TCC and Kate Calloun's probably gonna hate me saying
this because it's a painted a butt for but the ice,
the outdoor ice rink is up right, you've got the
road Runners playing. If you walk downtown during that time,
it's do you have all walks of life going just

(34:34):
absolutely nuts downtown because you can do the ice rink,
you can go to these games. There's it's like December
during Christmas, yeah, the holiday season. But if you had
more of those things throughout the year, I do think
you would attract a lot of different walks of life
going downtown. The only thing, the only complaint that I have,
and it's a very small complaint, is that we have

(34:55):
a lot of entertainment downtown, right you have, you have revenue,
you have you have concert venues, you've got eateries, bars,
all this.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I think we're missing out on things to do like
Corbett's right has you've got yeah, what you might call it,
thank you?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
You have pickaball. If we had more places like that, I.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Think you do. I think you do. We don't know
about it. A Touson Record Club has a downtown oh
down yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Rec Club's amazing right now? What they did? You've got
the Paddel plays on paid way. You've got all those things. Yeah,
I mean downtown though, right, you're in Congrete downtown. There's
got to be stuff to do.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, I still think too, it has this reputation, and
reputations are hard to beat up upon. But it's what
that was dangerous that No, that it's just uh not
that it's dangerous, dangerous, not the worry word that there's
nothing to do.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
And maybe because there's people to people that haven't traveled
downtown have no idea.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
What let me tell you something too, because people mentioned
complaining about the bark Keno the ballpark there, right, Yeah,
what's the difference now than twenty five years? What the hell? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
You can't if I if I if there you're ting
you MA had ten many rays. I can get anything
I possibly want exactly. Yeah, I know, David Busters. I
can go to the movies. I can go to I nineteen,
that venture that has literally every restaurant, you could possibly everything.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Here's my issue.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I know people who are afraid of going south that way.
Come on, you haven't heard that? Yeah, but I listen.
But to me, that's stupid. To me, it's yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I mean I think it is really stupid, and it's
dangerous anywhere you go. Right, I missed dangerous downtown where
it was sketchy in the district, and I miss my
dive bars. But I'm happy for the community. Yeah, yeah,
I know better. Now I'm older, I don't want to
go I mean, listen, I don't want to be in
that crowd anymore in my life.

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Speaker 1 (40:15):
Breaking down all the I says and ohs. This is
I on the ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Hey, welcome back to my the ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're a break eager,
and I'm not sure we're getting here. Told me with
your guy, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
I'm supposed to be on spears and Allie tomorrow, I
just will all know, show them, I'll show you.

Speaker 14 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
I wouldn't do that to Justin No, you know all
he's a very busy person, so I confirmed this morning.
But we'll get him on okay, Yeah, we'll get some
wed some time. Unfortunately, people just have to listen to
me ramble for long.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well we got ten minutes if you guys want to
call we We've kind of gotten off topic after baseball
with Victor. But I think he's a good topic because
you know, we talked about this in the summer, right
that they're going to have a lot of downtime, a
lot of idle time to talk about different things like
music and things like that. But this is a this
is a topic that hits home. I've been here, it'll
be thirty eight years in August, thinking that when I

(41:15):
first got year in eighty seven, coming from Dallas working there,
I'll be here three years and go to my next
stop probably blah blah blah, and then you stay forever.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
No.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Two sounds like a parasite. It gets any the your
lives and this is home for you.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
And I have lived in some great places around the world,
and I still I mean, I just it's different. Yeah,
it's you know, it's different. We were just talking about Denver, right.
I love Denver, Denver. I lived in Denver, but it
was it's pretty segregated, like people didn't walks of life,
didn't really hang out with each other.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
It was confusing to me. I never felt like I
never felt like I was part of the community, right
because it didn't welcome you. Yeah, it wasn't just a
very It wasn't. The people are just different. But they're
not from there either.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
I mean, what place's talking about people?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I'm Denver, right, Like my closest friends from Denver were
from Vegas to so On and Phoenix. So I was like, well,
why am I? This doesn't make anything. If you didn't
live here, where would you live? Where would you want
to live? At all the places I lived?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Why?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Oh for obvious reasons. But you also the way in
life and then everything else. Yeah, what about money because
it's figured out? Okay, okay, see somebody that's yeah, I've
been poor. It's fine, it's no, no, I get it.
I totally so fine. It's funny all your life. I
wanted to cover Triple A baseball, cover baseball, right, I
covered the Rangers helped in the summer of eighty seven,

(42:33):
and I realized, what the hell I hate this? Yeah,
because the guys aren't always great. It's long days at
the ballpark, and then you come here and do spring
training and then you realize not all the guys are great. Yeah,
it's kind of silly. Uh So, to my point is,
I've always wanted to live in Vegas and then you
go there and you think I'm good. Seventy two hours
in Vegas is plenty for me, And you're exactly right.
I mostly recently went last month, and I'm thinking, I

(42:56):
don't know sure when I want to go back.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I mean, listen, I love I love living in New
York in my twenties. I don't want to live in
New York, and I don't want to live in the
city in my forties, right, you know. I mean I'd
live in Sweden again, heartbeat. That was the best place
I ever lived, probably, But yeah, you know, you it's
the same thing. You get this, you change, You've all right, sure,
so no, it's get off my lawn and just don't
be you are Actually you were definitely a get off

(43:19):
my lawn again again. The funny thing about is I'm not.
I'm not, but I don't know even now. You know
it's last last year, last summer. For the first time
in my life, I'm thinking, I'm not sure I can
deal with this heat because it was one hundred.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
And twelve or better for forever.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'm I'm so glad you brought that up. I just
had this conversation. I said, the older you you asked
me ten years ago. I'd been like, it's fine, you
figured out. At this point, I'm like, I gotta get it.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
It's one hundred and thirteen tomorrow. I don't want to
be here. I'm not leaving the house like I don't
want to be outside exactly. And it's like it makes
me angry. I get angry about it. I'm like, why
is it so freaking hot? And why is it so hot?
I'm like, you lived here, your whole life is what happened?
Nothing changed, right, No, exactly exactly. We talked about Phoenix,
right because you were up there and I was up
there and it's one hundred fourteen and you could just

(44:03):
feel it. And I'm thinking, why why? Maybe because I'm
just older and I'm crankier, and there's an age there
where something just flipped for me. And then and then
I cause I know a lot of old people. I
played poker with a lot of old people. Yeah, why
are you so cranky? Yeah, I guess what you have
to look at the mirror, say why am I so cranky? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:22):
I listened.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I if I'm notching about something, I'm not living. I like,
I complain about everything. I lived in in a fifty
five and older community, and this this is best place
I really actually Yeah, in South Florida, in Port Santee,
right outside of Port Saint Lucie.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
But you were what thirty eight?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
No, this is like when I was twenty three, I
was living in Port Saint Lucie. I was playing with
the Mats, so I stayed there a nafseason. So the
girl I was dating at the time, day, yeah, yeah,
she had just had hip surgery.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
It was perfect.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Uh. Now our dad had a place there, so we
would go. We would live there when I was staying there,
and my best friends was my best My two best
friends was a seventy eight year old and eighty two
year old. We'd wake up at five in the morning
and play a round of golf. We'd go have lunch,
go take a nap, come back and play cards and
have drinks and then go to somebody's house. It was
the greatest joy in my life. And all we did

(45:12):
all day long was in complaints. Yeah, it was the
greatest thing.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
That's how it was.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I joined a new group, my my son and my
son and his girlfriend. I met her parents and the
family on that side recently, and it was a bunch
of dudes like that old dude. It was like Walter
Matthallen and some of those other people. And I'm thinking, I.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Even joke with them.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
It feels like I'm in the cocoon and I'm in
a cocoon movie, like Cocoon eight. And it was like yeah,
And they were smoking cigars and we're playing and I'm thinking,
how did I end up here? And I was texting
my study says, yeah, there are a bunch of you
know whatever, And I'm thinking, God, good luck you're married
into this thing.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
It's so funny that I have no interest in being crowds.
So we go to concerts all the tunch. Yeah, we
go to concerts all the time. And somebody touches my
elbow and I'm already been standing there. I'm just lose
my I lose my mind. I'm like, I've been I've
been here for forty five minutes. Why are you touching me?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Now You're trying to get closer, like no boundaries, And
people were like wait till they still asking you questions.
You know, what did you do for a living?

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, oh no, I'm just a dude works a circ Okay,
bus driver. I've always that was my alter ego every time,
because it's a great job. Great first thing. The first
thing you said, tell me you're a bus driver. Yeah,
I'm a bus ride. I'm sure you could tell some story.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Yeah, and then you got one. Oh, I can go
into it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
See that's a great thing. At a young age, when
you take on an alter ego, you have to create
a hole.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
So I was all in on it, stabbing people on
the bus. I was good driving in Houston. I never
lived in Houston. You're talking about worst cities. Oh god, hoon,
can't stand Houston. I went to the Woodlands once. Yeah, great,
gots your great poopa.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yeah. A little to uppity, yeah, a little yeah, but
it was nice. It was nice listen. Although it was
it was in the summer and it's holy crap. I
don't want to live that vice.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
But the first the first guy's flight, it's pretty nice
when you get it, you ever get upgraded, it's it's
pretty nice.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
It's it's your seventy two hour thing.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Yeah, yeah, give me one.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
And then I got to get back to listen. I'm
not this person could be cranky anyway. Yeah, yeah, I
could keep up this facade for a little while. But
it's not a it's not a life it's not a
life changing side.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I'm glad you feel comfortable in this radio gig of
yours that you got who you well, it's pretty easy
to do. This is your former dream job. I think
I always wanted to just be a producer. Oh that's
what I did at KX. I would set up with
bands and play play music. That was a lot of fun.
I never envisioned myself being on there. Who'd you go

(47:41):
see Monday? The Pixies, The Pixies, I've heard of them? Okay,
so who is your going mind? Who your favorite band's
growing up? Who are they?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Oh my god, we're gonna get into it. Just give
me three, uh favorite bands growing up? N w A,
Rolling Stones, the clash. But you're saying and my favorite
like three, I would definitely include Marvin Gayano's reading and
or Howling Wolf, Hellanwolf our Muddy Waters.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Oh well yeah, yeah, you're an old schoolish guy. But
Rolling Stones to me back in the early eighties were
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
I mean, I don't know if I would say the
early eighties, No, that's sixties, seventies yeah, no, no, no,
because I listened to that music. But me, that's how old.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, that's what I was.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
You were a big Rod Stewart hot legs fan, right,
probably faces.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Good God, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
He's old now he's any Jewish? Yeah, I mean people
grow old. Briannon and sly Stone died back to back days.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
My heart was crushed. Yeah, using sly Stone arguably is
the greatest musician of all time. You think about the
people that I mean, Brian Wilson's insane category, but sly
could play every instrument and the people that came after
him that he, you know, essentially created because what he did.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
So what about you? Growing up?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
It was the foreign the foreigners, I just saw them.
I don't know, I don't I just did a lot
of I'm a seventies guy. Seventy. That's what I listened
to now, rock rock, kind of easy. Yeah, you're yachtli
rock guy, right, Yeah, you know any money back in
the day, Yeah, rolling stones, stones, not the Beatles your stones, guy, Yeah,

(49:20):
not the Beatles stones guy. Uh god, wango tango, Oh
my god, no, no, that was nus. Yeah, just you know,
back when you think you know it all you had.
I had the you know, the the the bullet, you had,
the jeans shorts cut off. No, it's just a cigarette
in the corner. I've never spoke. You had a mullet,

(49:42):
mullet girls for the girls, baby.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, I envision you. At some point in your life.
You owned a like a rock z camaro. It's a
Berlin cam What did you own it?

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Did I?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It pretty just car champagne. Yeah, it was nice, nice, nice.
I drove it here when I first got here. That's
a great get you. Hey, I uh, I love that car.
That was my first car in college.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
All right.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
So I can kind of build the structure of who
you are depending on what kind of music like. That's
that's my superpower that my dad and my uncle, both
my uncles gave me and my family gave me so yeah,
I can. I can say, Okay, you're probably into this
because you like this, like.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, okay, yeah, wait till I show you pictures when
I first was, you know, doing media stuff. That's the
radio shows I did when I first got here. The hair,
oh man, the jeans in the car. Yeah, I had
a convertible vo five. No, not a convertible. And that
was a lot of the waving there. Who the hell

(50:49):
did I think it was stupid? You look back the
one where I'm grompy because I'm stupid. Hey, thanks for
joining me today. Yeah, this was This was actually a
lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
I mean, for as much crap as you gave me
for me wearing a suit today, you better go to
dinner for this or something. No, uh, visit to songs.
Actually hosting a sports conference and so I've got to
go general benns Yeah Lopez put it all together.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Well, okay, nice kick him, but over tell her thanks
for the invite.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I don't know you're not gonna go.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I don't need to go. I mean, you don't go
to anything I was telling I was telling Anthon, Jimmy
know that today you because if we were talking about
you going to Evince and We were laughing about it,
and I said, listen, I had to force him to
go to the World Baseball Classic. And then he calls
me when he gets there, like where are my ticket?
And then he will he refuses to wait in line
and makes me go back and get tickets for we'll

(51:39):
walk him back in.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Guess what it's like.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, that sounds like the first thing he says, you
get your wallet, your keys, your classes, because this one
most of the time I don't.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Thanks for coming in, Yeah, thanks for having me me
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