Wednesday, October 16, Hour 1

GUEST: Jeff Weales

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Welcome back. Dave got to.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Be back, and we have Henry running the board, so
we should be okay if I don't screw it up.
Welcome to Wednesday's show. Everybody, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Dave. Good to be here. Kind of getting a little
roll coming in a couple of times. Day, Yeah, what else? Retirement?
What else?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
This is?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah? See if I can still do this? Now we
get Dave.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Now you just need to have coach Lopez in here,
and he's not doing anything.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yep. I'm set for the rest of my life.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Have all these guys who've been in the business sort
of and they can help you out right. You can
talk poop about it a lot of different things.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're getting posted to the game on Saturday. I don't
know how big it is. It would have been big
head Arizona been playing well. I think it's just kind
of like a play and survive for Arizona, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
So, you know, there are still obviously six more games
to go, so I think it's not exactly the end
of the world. But we saw last year they were
kind of in the same boat, but they really went
in a different direction, right and you know then they're
going right now.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
But Colorado comes in.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
You know, their top player is supposed to be back,
Travis Hunter we talked about yesterday and Dion you know,
bringing his whole show to town with his son at quarterback.
It's it'll be interesting to see, it'll be it's sold out,
it's on national TV, so there's a lot of a
lot of coverage for that.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's it's not that I find this funny or anything.
It's just kind of not even ironic. But people go
back to last year. Well last year there were three
and three and they went on this role YadA YadA.
It runs reminds me of the times when I hear
Arizona going to the n C Littleity Tournament. Well, they
finished fifth in the tournament, the fifth fifth in their conference,
and they won the title. Okay, how do you get

(01:58):
a pretended or connected to this year or whatever? You know,
you know, they always say, hey, you never know, Well
you don't never know. You just kind of play you
have to see. You have to see the same playout.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
And you know, I think just as fans, we've we've
noticed that it's dropped off a little bit here to
start the season, hasn't been as consistent, and I think
everybody is hoping that, you know, we know, we've got
this quarterback who was great last year and these receivers
who were really good last year still here. So I
mean there's still hope, I think, and like I said,
there's still six more games to go.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
The funny thing about is everyone wants to know the
why it's happened. I don't think there is a why,
or if there is, there's a bunch of whys. You know,
the quarterback's not playing that well, they can't get them
to the right receivers. Defense has been okay but not great.
Offensive line has its issues, running game, who knows, injuries
in injuries. There's like five or six things that have

(02:49):
happened and all have kind of combined times to get
them at three and three.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, like you said, that's kind of what's going to happen.
I think, you know, if everything was perfect, the record
would probably be a lot different, but those injuries that
I think have snuck up on them, especially on the
defensive side. I think the offensive line had some injuries early,
but the defense has really been hit hard.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
So that's not good.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
And you've got a potent offense coming into town this
weekend too, so hopefully things are short up and guys
maybe play a little bit above their level.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
How much do you think and I don't think I
asked you this yesterday? Does one person make a difference?
And I'm going to go to their guy? Who's Travis Hunter? Yeah,
he's really good, He's really good. You know, there's I'm
trying to remember back over the years, there's sometimes there's
a deep a defensive back and maybe in this case
it's him, other defensive backs who have just like even

(03:42):
when Dion played, now that I really think about it,
you know, he would just take over. They would never
throw to his side of the field.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
So maybe you know, that could be something that he's
in envisions with with Travis Hunter, or you know, a
great defensive back like like Arizona's had over the years,
there's just dB you just don't even go after him.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Because there's there's so tough.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
And and I hope to see I don't know if
it will happen, hope to see him going against Mac,
just because you know, to two premier guys on each
side of the ball going after one another or defending
one another. And I guess last year that happened a
time or two and t Mac did take advantage of
a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah, Arizona's had pretty good success against the Buffaloes in
yeah decades, so big high scoring games, the Khalil Tate game,
what was in twenty seventeen where he just went went crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
That was like his coming out party.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
In fact, I'm trying to try to get him on
the show tomorrow. I don't know if I'll be able
to just to see, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
What he's up to. One he's an honorary captain.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, yeah, so he Yeah, he said he was coming.
I'm trying to have some people fill out for me
so I can kind of get him on the show,
not kind of to get him on the show.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
But I haven't heard yet. And we'll see.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know what a what a potential guy and didn't
live up to the potential.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Whether his fault or.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
The it was range especially how you know, he had
such a great couple of years going and then I guess,
you know, coaching change here. They changed the philosophy of
the offense and maybe asked him to do different things
and he weren't his strengths and it just didn't right.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well, Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I understand what you're saying. I don't know if that's
entirely true or not because you're saying it or wrong.
But I can go back to the first game or
second game of the year his senior year, that final year, right,
he came out, was the quarterback through like thirty three times,
And I was the guy that asked him. I said,
are you okay throwing the ball thirty three times? And

(05:38):
I asked it almost like that, almost like should you
be doing this? He looked at me and he says,
that's what quarterbacks do. Yeah, you know, I think he was.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
He was.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
He wanted to get ready for the next level and
they're not going to get a guy, although they did.
They had a number of teams have the runner and
then the passer right, and he would have been perfect
for some team, but he tried to prove that he
was a passer.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
He was not a passer.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Yeah, but like in the NFL, I'm not sure the
runner who runs most of the time like he was
kind of doing here would work, you know, Lamar Jason
to pass.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And that's that's exactly where I was thinking. What I
was who I was thinking about, because he's fantastic and
it's hard to compare the two, but that would have
been the guy, you know, the r PO, but he
still lacked throwing.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
So important to keep the quarterback healthy. And if you're
gonna get you know, go out on the run twenty
times a game. The chances of you you're gonna get
you're gonna get him.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
And remember remember what happened to him the year the
year before uh Ashue game. You got crushed, he got
he got hurt, and I think that that affected him too,
because you know, he's been healthy kind of most of
the year and then he got hurt. I think Dawkins
was the guy right him and him and Brendan, so
they both got hurt. And then he came in and
he was a powerful quarterback, right. He got hit pretty

(06:56):
hard in the Arizona State game and he suffered a
big shoulder injury. I think something like that, and he was,
what's the same player, right?

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well, I mean even yesterday talking to Willie Tetama, who
was not that type of a player, right, And he
got he got crushed a few times and had some
concussions like you.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Said, three.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, he didn't know which one. I couldn't remember which
one was worse. But those are not not good signs
for a quarterback. So you want to you want to
keep them healthy. And it should be you know, it
should be a high scoring game. I would think everyone's
talking about Schaduur and Colorado putting up points.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So you think that, right, didn't we think that last
the last few games, that's room and it doesn't happen.
Texas tack we thought, I think the sixty five ish
something like that, nothing forty forty something, and last week
it was relatively small. Yeah, and because everyone's not putting
up his bar holding.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Up the markets. True.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So yeah, we'll see it's going to be sold out. Obviously,
if you don't have a ticket, good luck. I'm sure
there'll be some people on the sideline saying, hey, ticket ticket, Yeah,
I'm not sure. If I'm going yet I was going
to go as a fan. I'm still not sure if
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
It should be great and it's a day game and
it's gonna weather.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Looks like a might cool down a bridge, bring bring
a little overcoat or something.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
It might It might rain on Friday, but could mess
up the big bonfire that they have outside Old Main
on Friday.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Are they going to have that? They still they should be, well,
they should.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't know if they do, because I know that
I've had Kirby, one of the guys, one of the Wilbers,
and the homecoming group that they canceled that stuff, all.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
The thing they canceled the parades, the braids.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, but you know if they have been doing a
bunch of here a couple of years ago, they did
because I worked in a building right next to it,
basically right behind Old Maine.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
So yeah, it was pretty cool the situation.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
The band comes down, fans are kind of walking over
from you know, University area, gentle bends and those kinds
of places, and they's just come right.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Up, let's go watch a fire. Yeah, and it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I mean they've got just tons of wood and you
know it lasts an hour or so.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It's pretty cool. Yeah, Okay, so we'll see. I've been
checking to that. I guess that the golf golf teams
are in Scotland or you know, in Scotland Andrews. I'm
going to ask or they're playing in tournament there. I'm
going to ask a question to Michael lev he's one
of our guests. Uh here on the other side of
four fifteen for seventeen, because I got a text from

(09:16):
somebody who used to work at you base.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
How are they pulling this off, setting two teams to.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Scotland and aren't they in trouble financially as that work out?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I mean, like I said, they're kind of separate. What
do you mean? What do you mean? Well, I'm kind
of not, kind of pregnant.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
No, I mean, I don't know exactly the financial situation,
but I think athletics kind of has their own budget
going they can do whatever they want.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Well, that's was part of the problem.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, apparently they got enough money to get two teams
Andrews and one of them, one of them won, you know,
he won the match plays Zach Polo.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh that's was that? That was? Are they still there?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I thought they were there now because if yesterday yesterday, ye,
I think they're still playing.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
They're playing now the team.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Okay, that makes because I did send a note back
to him, so so I thought they were done and
he said, no, they're playing right now.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, okay, So that was my question.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
How can they afford to send two teams out there
and you know, claim that there's no money and they
could use that money for other things.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
It was probably scheduled years ago. It's not my money.
It's not my money, So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
They probably budgeted it a long time ago. And you
know they built they just built this incredible golf facility
out there too.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
You were with me when we were talking about that yesterday. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Uh yeah, we destroyed BIS Tucson about it. Pretty impressive
And uh what were they before? Tuson National?

Speaker 5 (10:43):
They were all over the place, but yeah, at one
point National, they were at Arizona Arizona, they were at Solo.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah for a while. Yeah, Arizona National.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
There was a big a logo right there on the eighteenth,
the eighteenth green.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So and you speak of Selo golf course, that's a
single Dell soul. We're gonna have Jeff Wheels. I think
that's how you spell his names. W E A L
E S. He's the GM at so Well Golf Course.
He'll be on to have a big tournament next week
helping out Ronald McDonald house at Interfaith the Church. So
we'll talk about that and just all the things going

(11:18):
on down there, one of our big sponsors, and we'll
talk about that, and then Michael Levitt the four fifteen
hour for seventeen hour talking about u A basketball, UA
football and all things in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
That'll be good.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, he's been asking some good questions. Yeah, he does
about the team. I want to ask him if there's
a temptation, you know, he's he's following, and I don't
know if I'll ask him this.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I will. I'm close enough to asking him.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So he's following in the footstep of Greg Right and
everyone who knows Greg either he's there for him or
against if he's a polarizing the character and a friend
of mine. It's like when I when I write snarky.
Let me when I write snarky every once in a while,
and I do, I'll admit it.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
People are saying, what happened to you?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Because I don't I usually a positive when I write,
you know, I faid, well, when you're covering looton those guys,
how many times are going to be snarky because they're
pretty good, but when things turn bad you could get starky.
How it is for him to follow Greg because he's
nicer than Greg. I mean in his writings right, it's
more straightforward there than polarizing. So if there's any pressure

(12:25):
to do to do some of that.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's gonna be interesting. I mean, I don't really know him.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
I was gone by the time he got here, so
I know he's from southern California, so he's got to
be influenced by a lot of the great writers in
the you know, the history of the La Times, especially
that you know I grew up reading and write.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's another paper that's the show of itself. Really well,
most of the guys are. He's still there, but I
mean he's the centerpiece and he won't have much more time.
I would think, no, no, And there's everybody else kind
of young. They I think they were going to do
something with athletic or they let a lot of people go,
A lot of people go with when the last year
one of my buddies.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Ben Bulch kept his job.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
He covers your cla but it's it's a show of itself,
just like every place else.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I mean the New York Times. I mean that's.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
It's crazy, right because now they're using the Athletic. In
the Athletic, there's really no local coverage.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
This is the New York Times.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, this is not some small paper. No, but that's
a that's a big adjustment. And like you know, like
you said, we kind of grew up looking at these
guys and admiring him. If you got to that level,
you pretty much got to the top of the business.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Right right now, there's not even that level anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, there's not. I mean, you get a job. So Henry,
cover your ears. It's tough. And Henry knows this right
comes from New York. Who is your Did you have
a childhood guy you read in New York?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Not really, No, It's funny.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
We have friends here who are from New York and
they either grew up or they knew. Mike Vaccaro who
still writes for the New York Post, and he's been
covering the Mets, and so we've been texting back and
for like, I don't think my friends here even knew
that he was doing it, but I would find the
article and send it off. So, I mean the New
York's Post guys, and like the Daily News, I mean

(14:04):
they're kind of they stuck around.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Sure, those are those are the ones where the older
people kind of have stuck around. Although if you're older
now you're you're dead meat because you're make too much
money in their eyes, not in your eyes.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
So you know, no one special, not really.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
I would read the New York Times because like my
family got yeah, and that's specific.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It wasn't like the Post of the of the day.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It was.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
It's totally different totally and how they cover things.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yeah exact, and yeah, Phil Mushnik, he's gonna check him out.
He's in the New York Post. He's their media guy.
So you talk about snarky. He so he would rip
and kill different either local or Nashal and how they
did like when you know, when I was in the business,
it was kind of like, oh my gosh, the stuff
he's saying about on air.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
People.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yeah, you pick on some you know CBS guy or
you know somebody big.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Time, but he's still around.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, we gotta go we gotta go get back with
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Speaker 2 (20:10):
Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball here on
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Speaker 3 (20:13):
I'm Steve Rivera.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Then with me today is Dave Silver And now on
the phone we have Jeff Wheels, the GM at Sewil
Golf Course at the Casino Dell.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
So, Jeff, how are you.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I'm very good. Thank you for having me Steve.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yes, it's Jeff. I would assume as the temperatures kind
of simmered down here, you're a pretty popular guy down there.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
As the temperaures drop, we definitely see more action on
the golf course. And we've just come out of overseating
changing our grass, so we're an outstanding condition.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yes, and I'm sure that even before the CD and
all that stuff, I know of no one and I'm
gonna go down to the casino and I know the
guys who golf on there love the place. I have
never heard a bad word about that place.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well, thank you, Steve, I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Yeah, you guys have had a pretty good history there
with you of A as a home course. I know
there's been I believe was there a PAC ten or
Pac twelve championship was played there. So it's been a
kind of a good little destination for a lot of
different types of events.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Is that true?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yes, absolutely. We have a very good relationship with the
u of A. They still frequent our facility quite a bit,
and we're actually looking to host additional additional events with
them in the NCAA in the near future.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah. Nice. Nice.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
In fact, you have a big event coming up in
a week from today again tomorrow, can you talk about that,
I guess in conjunction with the Ronald McDonald House.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yes, I can, Steve. This is our ninth year for
our Casino Del Soul Charity Classic. The tournament is, you know,
we have to partner with all the businesses and vendors
here locally as well as some that we use in
other areas, and they come in and help us to
raise money for a couple of charities every year. This

(21:58):
year our charities will be the i'll McDonald House and
then we also have interfaith community services here locally. We
will kick this off on October the twenty third. On
October the twenty third, we are having basically a preregistration
meet and greet cocktail hour at the Prima here in

(22:19):
our hotel, the bar area, and we will obviously walk
outside in the pool area as well, and then on
the twenty fourth we'll have the golf tournament. It is
a ten am shotgun seven to ten. We have breakfast
in networking here, registration and then kick it off with
a golf course, a lot of fun out on the course,
a lot of tents, a lot of local vendors will
be here, you know, allowing their goods to be sampled

(22:42):
as well. So we really look forward to it and
it seems to just get a little bit better every year, Steve.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
So yeah, no no question. Let me ask you, so,
do you still have spots open or is it full?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
We are sold out. We actually have a waiting list, Steve.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
How many foursomes?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
We have thirty six fours wow?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, So not about gig you got there a lot
of people believing and helping out with the nonprofit.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, absolutely. And Ronald McDonald house and Interfaith are are
very deserving of support, both great organizations.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I know, and having dealt with or dealing with Jacklin
and the group down there in the marketing department, as
you know, we do a show down there now, you
guys do a lot of things. I'm talking to Del
Sola to help the local nonprofits.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Absolutely, we actually are lucky enough and fortunate enough to
have a lot of nonprofits that not only we help,
but then also utilize us for some of their own fundraising,
whether it be golf tournaments or you know, different types
of events. But yes, we do get an opportunity to
partner with many here locally.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I've had a chance to work with Courtney's courage. They've
been there a number of years. In fact, I was
just there in August. So that's been a great summertime
event sure for the course and for the casino. I
know a lot of people stay there because it's it's
an early start, like a seven am shotgun, so people
like to spend the night and get up early and
go out and play.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Absolutely a lot to do here at the facility, you know,
different from some other facilities. You know, you have more
than just golf here. For entertainment as we have the
you know, the casino and of course the ava Amphitheater
with live shows there. So yeah, a lot to do
and a lot of events come in and utilize everything
to be able to maximize what they can get out

(24:34):
of their event.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So I'm assuming that you're you're a big golfer or
at least was in the past, and what do you
what's your background?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
So, Steve, I actually am a transplant to Tucson, originally
from Indiana. I did play college golf. I've been in
the golf business in one way or another for twenty
eight years. Actually owned a golf course at one point
and am looking was looking for warm other ended up
in Tucson and I hope to be able to retire here.

(25:03):
We really love the Tucson area.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, the older stuff is one thing, and hey, let
somebody else deal with that.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Let me just run the thing.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
That is for sure, there is not are you are
you thin the youngest golf course in Tucson. There has
not been a new one, I don't think in a while.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
We Yeah, we are the youngest golf course in Tucson.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Why would that be specially you think, why would it
be different than say going out and play you know
a Randolph or a Tucson National, places that have been
around for you know, forever.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Sure, and if you you know, if you're in the
the golf industry, and this is actually the second young
course that I've been at. You know, as a golf
course matures, you know, things begin to change a little bit.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Now.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
The nice thing for us is when when Notova Gay
designed this course, he opted to put in bent grass
greens as opposed to bermuda greens. Bent grass greens do
not have to be overseated, so you don't go through
the change of grass from season to season because bent
grass will stay green year round. And I think that
is a competitive advantage for us here in the Tucson area.

(26:08):
And also, you know, our facility being newer and the
grass and everything is still very fresh. We're not looking
to have to do any kind of major renovation, and
the golf course is always an outstanding position or condition.
Are superintendent is a Southwest guy. He's been in the
business for about thirty years, and I don't know that
I've worked with a finer individual than Jason Rogers.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
So just let me get you, let me get you
some background on things. As we all mature, we all change.
I didn't have a gut, I didn't have gray hair,
and now I'm just a cranky old net So a
lot of things changed when you're not matured.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
If that's happened, Yeah, absolutely, I resemble that comment.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
We all do, but I embrace it. By embrace it.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Let's talk real quick more about about the golf tournament.
So you're loaded down there. How many of these things
do you do in a.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Year of the Casino del Sol Charity Classic. We just
do this one once a year. Now, we do partner
you mentioned Courtney's Courage, you know, we we've partnered with
more than a bed. We partner with local firefighters. We
do a lot actually with the base and the U

(27:18):
of l u of A as well. So we get
a lot of charitable whether it be you know, raising
money for cancer or raising money for local families. We
get to do a lot of that, and we actually
do in excess of probably thirty to thirty five of
those a year partnering with other organizations.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Review of the Week, What type of international type visitors
do you get? I know a lot of people come
from all over the place to Tucson. Do you get
that type of clientele as well, especially maybe in the winter.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
We do, uh, you know, the Canadians really frequent two
son a lot we get. We partner with a Canadian
travel company and they send us a good amount of business.
And then we also get a lot of Canadians that
they come here. They're just snowbirds, you know this. They
they have secondary homes here. We get some from Europe

(28:15):
as well. We do see some of that travel and
something that's kind of unique. You know, I wouldn't call
call these as far, but we've had the last couple
of years a group that has come from Juno, Alaska
and kind of overtaken our facility for a week, and
they're always they're always fun to have around.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, Tucson's lucky.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
We have a number of those kinds of places, you know,
the canyon ranches of the world, places where people will
come as a destination, spend a week, maybe work in
some golf someplace if they can.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
So that's got to be kind of cool to have that.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
You know, Hey, why don't we partner with X resort
and see if we can get some of those people
to come over to the casino and to that part
of town.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Absolutely, And I really feel like Tucson is kind of
a hitting gym. When you're talking golf. There are so
many great tracks around Tucson. You know, Ooral Valley. Whether
you go east west, it doesn't matter which direction you go,
You're going to find a golf course out there that
is not only enjoyable to play, but it's going to
be in great condition. And many of them have really
nice resources to stay out as well. Although I'm kind

(29:16):
of partial to Casino del Sol.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
As you should be.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
So how long has this transfert been in Tucson from Indiana?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Myself, I've been here since twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh, so you're kind of a rookie.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I'm kind of new. Yeah, I'm kind of new out
here in Tucson. It was actually i'd never been to
Arizona prior to coming out.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, So what has struck you the most You're only
two years in. I'm sure don't say any heat because
everyone self for seat and then they start loving it.
So what's the thing that struck you the most about
this town?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think what struck me the most about Tucson for
our family I have even though I'm a little bit
older and gray with the pot belly. Like you said,
I do have young I do have a couple of
young kids, eight and thirteen. And just the multitude of
things to do here, especially for kids, you know, whether
whether it's going to Tombstone or hanging out at Tubac

(30:10):
or you know, just seeing some of the sites, maybe
going to the Botanical Garden. You know, main event is
just a blast. There's so many things to do. And
and Steve, I really think when you when you talk
about being a foodie or something like that, and there's
some great restaurants around Tucson, right, you have.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
A couple down there in fact, that are fantastic. Let
me ask you are you Are you a Hoosier or
what where'd you graduate from?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I actually went to University of Evansville.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh okay, okay, back in the day too. I don't
know how old you are, but they had a pretty
good basketball program. Was there as well.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
At the University of Evansville? Yeah, they had. And then
they had the plane crash and had to completely rebuild
the rebuild the program. And then of course I lived
fairly close to Bloomington, so I am a Hoosier fan. Uh,
actually got to know coach and when he was there,
and so uh uh you know a lot of good
basketball in Indiana Adas. Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Well, now you've only had two years of arias little
basketball one kind of maybe two years. Uh I guess
you learned that basketball fans are basketball fans, and they're
kind of crazy and kooky and their team is the best.
But uh, I was going to ask you to compare
the two, but it's probably hard to do that because
I know who's your fans are kind of bonkers too.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, they're a little bit bonkers. If you've if you've
ever been to Bloomington for a game, it gets pretty
loud and crazy in there. But we've been to a
few games here at the u of A. It's loud
and crazy too, right, everybody loves loves U of A
basketball here, and of course we've been lucky enough the
last few years to have some very talented team. I
think I look forward to where that program is going
to go, and I look forward to being able to

(31:44):
continue to take my kids and my wife and and
and see games at the u of A. It's it's
a lot of fun to go down there. And the
football program, Hey, let's let's talk about that as well.
They seem to be kind of getting on the right track.
And been to a game so far and it was
a blast. And I'm hoping to get to go this
Saturday as well to see Colorado and Dion come in.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, Indiana's had a nice little football season so far too.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
It's kind of kind of a surprise.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, and that before this year, you know, I didn't
really follow Indiana football because it wasn't much to follow.
But yeah, this year, they've gotten off to a good start,
kind of changed some coaching staff, got some recruits in
and it looks like they're kind of hited in the
right direction as well.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So did you follow mister bollow Umar now he's with
the Hoosiers? Did you follow him here?

Speaker 4 (32:29):
I did not follow him?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
No, Okay, so I guess now he's working, well, working
is the right word. Apparently he's making more than a
million dollars over there as a student athlete.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Good for him. But you know, now, yeah, is it
the coach woods? Wo's it? Mike Woodson.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Mike Woodson, Mike Woodson. Yeah, So let me tell you,
I'm not too sure I was wont to played them.
I guess two years ago in Vegas, I was at
the game and those Hoosiers took about seventy five percent
of the stadium or the arena it was when I
had like twenty five percent. So I know that they
travel well and they're pretty rabid. So we'll see what
happens with that program.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, absolutely, it'll be fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, well, anything else with that with that big tournament
next week? Yeah, yeah, next week. A week from tomorrow,
one hundred and forty four people I think are going
to be out there. Can people just go watch or
how's that?

Speaker 4 (33:20):
It is actually primarily a closed off event just due
to the amount of activity that we have going on
on the course with the vendors, and then you know afterwards,
it's gonna wrap up pretty quick on the twenty fourth,
But it'll be a blast. Everybody has a good time,
and it's really fun to get to work with the charities.

(33:42):
I've been fortunate enough at other facilities that I've worked
at to be able to work with Ronald McDonald House,
and it's a class organization. And coming from somebody that
has a son that has special needs and has been
down that road, it's it's very near and dear to
my heart.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, well, good, good for you. That's very nice, Jeff. Well,
appreciate your time. He's the GM at Swallow Golf Course
at Casino del So go go see him, go play
the course. I mean, how can people just general public
go see you and get on the course.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Just call yeah, very easy. You can call us at
five two oh eight three eight six six four five
or our website at Casinodelsol dot com. So Wilo also
has its very own app, So if you go on
the app store you can download the Sowilo app. You
can book t times live through there and it also
has GPS as well as as a range GPS on it.

(34:32):
So it's a really nice app to have if you're
coming out.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Great, great, thank you, Jeff, appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Thanks for having me, Steve. I appreciate it, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
You will.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, that's last one. Okay, let's take a break. We're
a little like a little over, but we're cokay.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Thanks.

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Speaker 2 (36:48):
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Dave Silver.
We have Henry running the boards today.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
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five two zero four one six seven forty.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Were we'd be glad to hear from you. We're ready
for it.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Henry's got it under control over there, you know, by
the way, Henry your guy Matt.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
He did a pretty good job. He lost a couple
of callers, but you know he was little. He was
all right, he's got it. Yeah, Yeah, he's fine. Got
to get those calls coming in.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, what's the number again, five to two oh four
one six seventy four forty Do you want to call
give us some grief or whatever. I think the podcast
is up. It hadn't been up up to about two
hours ago, so uh, well, we look out for it
if you missed yesterday's show. A lot of people, Dave,
I don't know, feel like we get about a few
a few thousand, you know, give or take a lot

(37:37):
of thousands. They listened to us. Half of those listened
to us on podcasts and half live. Because you know,
it's that drive time, but it's near drive time.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yeah, so that's kind of my life, well used to be.
But I'm a big podcast listener these days.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah. Yeah, lots of good ones, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
The one thing that's one of the guys said to me,
I was at tour today in one of the guys
we're connected to, so you know, I don't I don't
buy the paper anymore.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
They don't buy the paper. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
If you buy the paper, you can subscribe. And he says,
it's like fifteen hundred dollars. And this is no criticism,
but I worked at the paper and it was fifty
to get the subscribe to the paper. I'm taking. What
in the world does the world come to? And he says, yeah,
I don't, you know, get everything on line now. I
don't really need anything. But I listened to you guys
because you guys are kind of Newsy. You're a lot
of fun. But you guys kind of have the same

(38:24):
stuff in there anyway, and you guys are free.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I do not.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
I subscribe online electronically, and that's not stopped. I stopped,
you know, getting the actual physical paper. Every once in
a while, I'll go out. You know and walk in
the morning in the neighborhood and you see a few papers,
but not many.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Not that it was ten years ago, No, ten years ago,
twenty years ago, and thirty years ago.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Remember we used to get two papers when I was
a kid. Yeah, we would get the morning and afternoon
where San Jose.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
San Jose, the San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
We'd get either the Chronicle of the morning or we get
the San Jose Mercury. And then then they had the
San Jose News in the after afternoon, right, and then
they combined, yeah, eventually. But yeah, as a kid, you know,
I would my parents would probably read the morning paper
and then I'd check.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Out the afternoon. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, that's how people recognize me. And I'll say this
about Greg again in the polarizing Tampa thing. We'd go
to one dude at a boxing match, pulled me aside
one day and he says, you know, see, I read
you growing up, and I'm thinking, oh, thanks, so I'm
really old, and he was like thirty something. Well thanks
for he says, but I read read you and Greg

(39:29):
and you guys would be at the same event and
come up with two different angles, two different thoughts that
were you know, Dole opposite.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
That's just the way it is. You know, well, I mean,
you guys were we were all kind of there. I mean,
the way we approached the story was different how you
guys did because we just.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Didn't need, yeah, all that space, the description stuff.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
We could show it and not have to write and describe,
you know, a certain play.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
We could just show it.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
And plus, you know, Greg's basically what was doing commentary,
so he's doing his opinion and you were pretty.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Much straight reporter straight.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
A lot of people still to this day don't understand
the difference in that right in news, especially.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Right well even today look at today's world, because it's
not it's not straight news.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
It's well, they're one side of this. What I'm saying
that yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Yeah, But so yeah, and that's I mean, that was
one of the great things about what we got to cover.
We had a lot of people kind of at the
same game, and you know, you look for Quirky or
looked for you, you look for you know, Greg or
you know, Bruce or whoever the beat writers were. You're
going to get that basic story and then you're going
to get the thoughts on the thoughts.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, right right. I enjoyed that even more myself. I
still do go to that first usually.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, and you had you know, CBS, you had you
with ABC and and NBC of course. Uh. And I'm
sure when you were doing your your gig there, Dan
Ryan made you better. You made Dan Ryan better. And
at thirty, at thirteen you probably had who Who's Cooney?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Who's Who's thirteen? You had so many there a lot
of people there through the years. Kevin McCabe was there,
Kevin mckab of course. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
No, But my attitude when I was working was I
tried not to worry too much about the competition and
worry about our team, what we were doing, and if
I could go home each night and say, you know,
that was a pretty good show.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
That was good.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
We worked hard today and we got good stuff. And
then you know, usually especially there wasn't that much competition.
It was kind of the same. Sure, how was it
going to be packaged? How are you going to cover
pretty much the same story?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, well, I firmly believe in Jay was on the
other side with the Star early in my career. You know,
we made them better, They made us better because we
always kind of wondered what the heck they were up to,
and same for them for us with us so.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, I mean there's only so much news that goes
around in this town.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Well that's too and then you know how they cover
it now and everybody gets the same stop and under
the thread of you better not screw up and break
the story that you're not allowed. You know what I'm saying.
There's always that they're going to take your and it's
not true. You do your job and it would look
bad in the school in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Oh yeah, they tried to remove credit or threaten you.
I don't think that happened.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well you saw what happened you see a year or
two last year. I think it was when the kid
who had him on the show. Yeah no, he was
a young kid who worked for the Orange Kenny Register
quoted somebody that wasn't on the podium. They were getting
ready to go on the podium and they quoted him
saying what should I talk about?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
What should I say?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And he wrote about and it was just a passing.
They didn't know what they were going to say before.
It was just a scene set of really and Riley
took his credential. Way, you're not gonna cover my team.
You're gonna be suspended. That took a national tone and
says you.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Can't do that. You can't do that, no matter who
you think you are. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
I mean, we saw the thing this week with Jerry
Jones right in Dallas, right kind of going after these
talk show guys. We need to be careful when we
call some of these folks and don't don't get am
angry at you.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
But the hell they're not paying my salary? Well, I
don't think he was paying their salary. He said that,
He said that, but the guy said he's paying my salary.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I don't know. Yeah, no, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I may have pissed somebody off by Jay's mostly the
one that does it or did it.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
But hey, they're here to talk. Let's talk.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, this is not this is not brain surgery. Now,
that's why you get to do it. I would have
failed at a few things already.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Speaking of fail I was checking some of the stories
today and the Chicago White Sox the king of failures
in his baseball so oh yeah yeah yeah, and Rhyin's
door if Jerry Hinsdorf, who has Tucson ties. Excuse me,
his son went to the u of A. And then
of course he had the White Sox train here in Tucson.
He's talking about selling the team. Of course he owns

(43:42):
the bull does he still owns the Bulls, right, all
those championships so yeah, yeah, and nothing with the White
So maybe he did have one World Series time.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
And what a great what at the time, what a
great owner, right because they were so good with Michael
Jordan and all that, and then you had his Crouse
I think he was. He was the bad dude, and
then it all came out for the the the Jordan's
big thing was it?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Tell me what was God? That's it thing? Did you
see that as a kid? You didn't see that? I
didn't watch. Oh you got to watch it. Watch. It's
really good.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Very sad for Jerry Cross, I guess. I mean, yeah,
it was weird. Why in the world did they break
up that team? Who knows? Right there was you know,
their financial reasons or whatever the whole situation was. But
you know, why would you do that? I have six
championships in nine years. But yeah, Rhine's door thinking about selling.
He bought him by Bottom for what was it twenty million?

(44:34):
And they're worth over two billion? Now, so what did
you buy a good deal? It's like ninety oh wow,
so in thirty years they wow. Well they had the
remarkable record of forty one and one hundred and twenty
one this year.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
So so well, you know, you know what, what's the
Kenny Rogers?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
No one to fold them?

Speaker 5 (44:52):
No one actually bought him in nineteen eighty one. So
it's been forty forty years.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
No, I remember. Yeah, he had a family.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
That came and he had like a son who's an
alum of the U event. Yeah, so he was here
and he would come into games and you'd see him
at you know, maybe some basketball games.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah, busy his son, and then the White Sox trained here.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
In fact, the year that they won the World Series
was part of the time that they were here.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Right, that was in the nineties, right, I was like two,
like five, really, yeah, I'm getting older and you know
two thousand and five?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah pretty sure? Yeah, Well how would you know that
you were like two?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Good memory? Yeah, he's like two. That's why we have you, Henry. Well,
it's like me chasing down with you to a Tommy yesterday.
I couldn't remember his name after talking to some people
about him one and then I he was a while back.
And then then he tells us, I'm thirty seven years old.
I thought he was quarterback ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah. You know, it's just how quickly things got done,
because you know we I think one of the good
things about what we have done. We have good memories.
You know. I can remember, oh yeah, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
And then you start looking at the date and you go,
my gosh, it was seventeen years ago.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
And most of my dates are basketball related, not like
you get football.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
You give some football. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
Oh, I play games in my head sometimes, just trying
to remember, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Right, give me a game. Now, we're kind of just reminiscing.
If we get any calls. We have about five minutes.
Give us a call. What was your most incredible game
you watched that did not because you were in Indianapolis.
I think, yeah, yeah, that wasn't a championship game like that.
Have I asked you this before?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Maybe my memory is going already a lot of the
games that got them to the final four. I mean
I was there in Seattle when they made it the
first time. Yeah, I was there in Los Angeles when
I was needed. Yeah, I was a sports arena.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
That was the weekend I was in Seattle, which was
a great one because Bobby was right by the side. Uh.
I don't know if you remember that, because it was
Jim was his first year a d and Luke got
to the final four again, right. He had been taking
a lot of heat from Greg and some other writers
about he hasn't gotten back, blah blah blah, and he
had a press conference and got all over the locals.

(47:16):
I know more about basketball and my little pinky than
you guys will ever know. You remember that.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
You were probably there. I think I was there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And then then not too long after that, Jim had
to sit down with US sports reporters. I don't know
if you were there too, saying what's the animosity between
everybody here?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Because he didn't know he had just gotten here, What's
why is it like this? And he told him it's
just the way it is. There was there was a
lot of non game.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Related stories that were really interesting something like that, and
I mean most of them were good memories for me,
just you know, meeting everybody and you know, just learning
the business.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
And what's it like to come. I mean, I remember
I do.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
This is one kind of fun one is I remember
kind of a Arizona got to the number one position
in the polls and that, you know, in that one
year going back to Ona on four, all of a sudden,
like there's the New York Times coming to our little
Tuesday gathering.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Yeah, like why are they?

Speaker 5 (48:10):
You know, all of a sudden, Arizona became a national
product and that just like that, like a snap of
the finger, you know, one week there they go into
the top ranking in the country.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Sure, people started carrying and it's never really stopped.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I was just gonna say that you're you're exactly right
New York Times Washington Post because at the Post it's
who's the PTI Tony Cornheiser, wil Wilbon would come in.
He would be the college guy back in nineteen eighty nine,
Really was he came here?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Pretty sure?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, some of those guys can USA today was still
young at the time in eighty eight, eighty nine, eighty seven.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
That was a good memory and really kind of like
put things into perspective for us doing Oh we're doing
local news, we're doing local TV. And it's all of
a sudden, it's like rubbing elbows with Michael Wilbon and
you're rubbing elbows with the New York Times guys coming
and just to do a whole feature.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Were you there at all any of the n cub
A tournament games too that Arizona was not involved here
in Michale, Oh those blast those were those are big
time games. Michigan is here. I think at the time,
Indiana was here. Yes, with well, I mean Jeff who
we were just talking to. It wasn't when it was
when Knight was at Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Texas Tech. He came in with that team right and
and he didn't he get into some squabble.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
It was Jay was he was Jay and Bob Bob
we talked about. Was the no, No, he was sitting
in the stands, but he was had been the moderated
But no, Jay was sitting in the stands at the time.
I think it was maybe a different time. Dave Bob
asked me a question. He did a story on Bob
Bob Knight. Bob didn't because he pointed out Bob who

(49:47):
did Who's Bob Knight? And blah blah didn't have the
story blub Bla and Jay after the after he went
on his ratu, Jay and J would tell us better
than I would. Uh, your question, but why do you
care about stuff like this? You aren't even worry about
with people, right, And that's what kind of ended the
press Covermence.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
It's funny because just yesterday I was talking to somebody
who has asked me why doesn't Arizona get the tournament anymore?
Is it? Basically McHale? You would probably know Michael.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Enough.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
The luxury boxes and stuff and every other new I'm
pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And it'll put a bit for they did the women's obviously, right. Yeah,
I don't think it's big enough. I don't think it's
big enough. Yeah, that's what even because they go to Boise,
they go to bigger arenas.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
But it was nice. I remember Michigan coming here, some
other great games. But I was always on the road
with the team, So yeah, I was missed.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
So it depends on what my duties.

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Usually I usually would stay here for the first and
those years I would if there was going to be
a regional here, I would stay and the other person
go and then I'd go to Sweet sixteen. So I
did get to see like I think Tim Duncan was
here with Forrest and definitely you said Michigan the fab
five years. I mean we were pretty lucky. U c
l A was I'm sure came came through once or twice.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Could have been ninety five or something like that.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Might have been like an obandon years. Yeah, were awesome,
and you know, we being in the media, were like
right there. Although I remember the game that night where
I was sitting I couldn't see him as well. It's
kind of down the other on the other end, but
just to watch him.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Coaches, just ya, do you remember much when Kansas State
came here and Frank Frank tell me his.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Name, he's at South Carol.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
He was at South Carolina, got fired there, Martin, Frank Martin,
very big dude, very authority.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
I thought that.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I thought he was fantastic. He spoke well, he was
fantastic with you know. I said, if I had a son,
I don't want him to play there. But he was
kind of like a military dude, like very yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Okay, So I think it was the same events. I
think when Knight was here that same year and I
was sitting behind the Kansas State bench I was almost
embarrassed because what he was so out and mean to the.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Very I mean like in there face.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Yeah, And I was and I'm like literally like three
feet behind them so I could hear everything.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
It was a little bit strange, right I didn't.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
I didn't, And parents were like right behind me, like
that was my kid, and he was just chewing him
out in front of.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Everybody with language. It was a little rough. Yeah, it
was rough.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
He was.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
He was known for that, right, No, and he got
to the final four in twenty seventeen eighteen when Arizona
could have gotten there, when Oregon was there, but no,
I remember him.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
There's some great memories. I think Adam Morrison was here.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Yeah, yeah, Matza Gonzaga and you know getting as he
was diabetic and he was drinking orange juice onthing.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Oh really real?

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Yeah, okay, he like every time out he would have
to almost get his blood tested. Oh he's pretty interesting.
And again as worse like sitting a going why is
he going over there?

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah? It was.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
It was okay, we're ready to go, right, yeah, Okay,
we're gonna come back. Henry will have some breaking news
and they're gonna have Michael liv on the other side,