Fade This Episode 19: Big Ten/ACC Preview

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
All right, welcome everybody. Week two or one or zero
of the Fade this podcast Matt Jones Drew Franklin. Week
one was a very successful week. We previewed the SEC
and the Big Twelve to widespread accolades across the world
of sports. Drew, I enjoyed it. Here's what I want

(00:37):
to say to all the listeners out there. You all
have a job. You're supposed to tell one person to
listen to Fade This as a matter of fact, I
want you to tell one person that's not even like
a fan of the team you're a fan of. So
if you're a fan of Kentucky, tell a fan of
like Boston College. Okay, if you're a fan of Illinois,

(00:57):
tele a fan of I don't know, Boise Stay. You
may not know them, but just call somebody up in
the phone book. I don't care, but I want you
to tell one fan because we're going to do a
contest later where if you've told a fan you can
win it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I like that you directed people to the phone book
that might have a hard time finding one of those.
But yeah, if you have access to the Boise phone book,
call them up, tell them, tell them listen.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do they still they still do phone books.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't think so. I mean they lasted longer than
they should have. I remember some hitting my porch within
the last few years, but I think that calmed down
and maybe even died.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
You know, I don't think i'd realize un till right
now that they don't do phone books. You know, when
I started practicing law, the first advertisement Jones and Bruce
made was in the phone book. And I'm going to
tell you something for lawyers, and I think lawyers would
know this. The phone book was a very lucrat like.
We probably got seventy five percent of our earliest business

(01:54):
from the phone book.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, most people don't know a lawyer, you know what
I mean. They just like, let's go the phone book.
Those two young guys look handsome, you know. We had
a serious scowl on her face and we were like
Jones and Bruce, and I think people go, I want
them to do my adoption.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
We did.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
The very first thing we ever did was an adoption.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Wow. Look, I like this blasting. Did you all have
a whole page? Like the half the page for you
a little bit?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
They were very expensive. You could buy like the back
of the book was like way out of our price range,
but you could buy a full page, you could buy half.
I think we bought a quarter. But we were very
young at the time. We kind of thought we were
like ruggedly handsome, so we like were very intent on
putting our pictures. Apparently the woman who sold them said,
I don't now this may have just been our line,

(02:42):
but she was like, I don't tell people to put
pictures if they're not good looking, because if you're ugly,
it actually is better to not have a picture. And
so with the phone book, Yeah, you didn't know that, Like, well,
think about it. You're just naturally more like to go
to a handsome or a beautiful lawyer than like a I.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Mean, if there's a fat guy with his suit didn't
fit in crook, yeah, I'm not calling him.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, because if I have an ugly son, I should
tell him he cannot be a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well he can't. He just can't advertise in the phone book.
But then your son's probably not gonna know what a
phone book is.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's true. Transitioned out.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So all right, well, uh with with that intro that
gets you ready for what we do here, which is
we are going to This is part two of our
conference preview. Already previewed the SEC and the Big Twelve.
We're going to do the Big Ten and the ACC today.
We'll start with the Big Ten. And I would like
to start with this thought for you, Drew. There are

(03:41):
eighteen teams in the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, do you think we can get an agreement?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
But amongst these conferences to have the number next to
their team conference be the number of teams. Here's my suggestion.
The Big Ten is allowed to be the Big eighteen,
and then the Big twelve just has to pick something else,
like Happy League. One of them use a Roman numeral
one use Big twelve first of all, because they're worse.

(04:09):
They just have to pick something else. You know.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I don't know God's plan. I would love to watch
the gods playing championship.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I don't care what it is, but I do not
like that neither the Big Ten nor the twelve Big
twelve have the correct number next to their teams. That's confusing.
Children would look at that and go, this is stupid,
So I think they need to check.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah. Younger generations who don't know what a phone book
is also won't remember that it was the Big ten
or the Big twelve. They're just going to count the
teams and say this is dumb. Imagine you have a kid, Billy, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Going to be your kid, William the fourth.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Daddy, You're you're playing okay? Yes, son, Hello, Son, I
don't like.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
That you name me the fourth. Kids make fun of me.
Tough daddy. We're watching Big ten football on Peacock. What
does big ten? Why is it ten?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well Son?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Back in the day before all this realignment, there was
only ten teams in the conference.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
But now there's more.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
There is, and they're just too lazy to change it.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
All right, so you can see the Diliver. This is
gonna be a great episode. You know, I got a
lot of feedback about episode one, more than usual, But
I didn't realize how much people wanted us to sing
Broadway musicals. Most of it has been about our Book
of Mormon. Lots of people loved our Orlando. I can

(05:46):
see why I didn't get a lot of feedback about
our Vandy over Under or you know, all the other
stuff we talked about. But the musicals, I think we
might have found a lane we should stay in.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I actually was singing I was singing the one that
I did. Oh wait a minute, we can't play these
on the air right like they get masded. Okay, so
I guess I have to sing it. But I was
doing the I'm going to baptize her. I've been singing
that in my head. I'm going to bathe in her sins.

(06:18):
I've been singing that for like a week straight. I
can't get it out of my head. You and this listeners, Yeah,
go see the Book of morm. All right, let's get started. First.
Up is Illinois. Billy, give us some facts?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yes, can you tell me the head coach of it?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I actually can, Brett Belama.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's correct.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
They went five and seven last year. They averaged or
they allowed thirty points a game, so it didn't go
well defensively, but they did play a little bit better
later in the season got them to a five and seven.
Finished though great.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
He was the guy that I said I thought his
wife was attractive, And then Billy started talking about how
hot Sam Pittman's wife was and he couldn't stop, Like
he's everywhere I hear everywhere Billy goes, He's like Sam
Pittman's wife. You know, I get the Sam Pittman be
a confusion, though they have similar buildings. What is the
what's the over under? What is the five and a half?

(07:10):
So last year they won five. I look at their schedule.
I'm gonna pick their wins. They have Eastern Illinois and
Central Michigan. They go to Kansas. They're not gonna win
that game. Kansas is good this year, right, they host Minnesota.
I think Minnesota's bad. They host Michigan State. I think
Michigan State is bad. So they have four games. I
feel good about him winning. Then they host Purdue. I'm
gonna take the over. I see six wins on this uh,

(07:32):
on this they play north that they may play Northwestern
at Soldier Field, UH the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and that
game might decide if they get the over wonder I
say they win, I'm gonna take over.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I'm gonna go under. I just don't feel very confident
in them. They're They're traditionally not a good school. I'm
looking at that record. You know, if you lose Kansas,
you go to at Nebraska at Penn State. On the
first five weeks, I mean, you could start two and
three and the wheels start falling off. So I'll go
under there. But shout out to Brett Beeloman.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, yeah, shout out to britil Illinois football is one
of those teams I don't know anything about. Like, give
me your best Illinois football memory, Lovey Smith just that
his beer was watching. Yeah, there's nothing else to say about, Like, seriously,
give me an on the field Illinois moment that you
can remember.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm not gonna have.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I think I could just read through the phone book
before I would come up with.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I'm gonna go further. I don't think I've ever seen
thirty seconds of an Illinois football game. You can you
remember watching an Illinois football game? Ever?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
No, I mean I've seen enough to know that Lovey
Smith had a white beard, so I guess they've been
on my TV.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'm gonna go further. I don't think they have ever
been on television. I cannot remember. I couldn't tell you
what their stadium looks like.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Can you name a player that played there?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I can't. I'm looking through their history.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I can do one. I don't know why I popped
in my head. Didn't Dick Buckets play there? I mean,
I'm going way back. No, I'm going way back. It's
not recent. I had a good running back. Further, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Say Illinois might be of the power for schools, the
most mundane, nothing to talk about team that exists. I
cannot think of a team that I have less memories
of than Illinois.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I really can't. I can't name a game.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
For those of you that don't listen to KSR the
text machine where you can send us text seven seven
two seven seven four five two five four send me
if you have an Illinois football moment, what it would.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Be for me?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It would have to be it was on before a game.
I was excited watch and I caught the Terror and they.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Didn't think they're good enough to get that ESPN noon
slot that Purdue always plays in. I don't even think
they're in that game. I'm with you, So there you go,
Beard under If I can't think, if I can't think
of a moment in that team, ever, then I can't
pick the.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Open I placed the name of the running back, Minden Hall.
Wasn't that someone Rashad Mindenhall. He went to Illinois. So
I have Dick Buckis Lovey Smith's beard and Rashad Minton.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Hall great moments Indiana. I do remember some Indiana games
because they beat I think they played Olhio State once
in a game that really mattered. I think they lost,
but it was early in the year. The Kentucky's played them.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
They were pretty good, just a couple of years ago,
Michael Pennocks before he transferred to watch what's there tell
me about?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
They did beat Wisconsin last year twenty to fourteen.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
They fired their head coach Tom Allen, So they now
have Kurt Signetti. Can you tell me where he's from? No,
James Madison.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Why did they fire Tom? What did he do?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, they did get James Madison coaches last year.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Not a great year for the Hoosier.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Good hire by them, though, James Madison. Remember they even
had game day last year? Yeah, you almost. I thought
that guy would go to a better job than in Indiana.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Really think he would. Indiana seems like a pretty dead
end job to me. Well, l remember him? Yes, what's
there over under whatever?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Five and a half?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, so they'll play Florida Illinois, they'll beat them.
They play Western Illinois, they go to UCLA, who's terrible.
They beat They play Charlotte. They do have a lot
of the good teams. They play Ohio State, they play Michigan,
they play Washington, but Ucla stinks, Maryland stinks, Northwestern's not great,
Michigan State, and.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
They can start five and oh yeah, I'm gonna go ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
If it's five and a half, give me over on Indiana.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I like that too. I think they start five and
oh and then it certainly gets more difficult.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You get with the Northwestern and they can start seven.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh yeah in Nebraska, Washington, Michigan, I mean Michigan. But
those are all home games.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'll go over.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, we're gona get off to a great start. My
get a little confidence, and I trust James Madison's coach,
whose name is Billy say it again, Signetti?

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah him. The key game for them is that week
three at Ucla. They need to win that because you
say that's not good. They won't. I mean, who in
La is gonna be like is coming to town? Let's
go prime time in Pasadena. That's the game they need
to win. What's next.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Iowa went ten and four last year. They lost their
bowl game to Tennessee UH in the Citrus Bowl, and
it was very, very common knowledge that offensive coordinator Brian
Ferrence lost his job because he couldn't score enough points.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Friends, Yes, uh.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean Iowa. Honestly, like being an Iowa fan,
would you want to be a fan of the team
that's the worst to watch, but is good.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
They just keep winning though at the end of the
day they go home smiling because they won. But it
is boring for a ball board last year, especially.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Easy schedule this year. Honestly, honestly, they're a they're a
sleepy playoff team in the Big Ten. They play Washington,
but they play them at home. They do not play
Penn State. They do not play Ohio State, they do
not play Michigan, they do not play USC. No, wait
a minute, they do play at Ohio State. So let's
assume they lose that one. But then you look at
those other games. There's not a reason they should lose

(13:26):
any of they. I mean, you could make a strong
argument they should go eleven and one, ten and two
at the worst. So if the over under is nine
and a half, which is what it is, right, no
much lower? What is it?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
It was at seven and a half, now it's at eight.
Oh yeah, I love this one. I love this, they're
going over eight. They got their quarterback back.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I wish I got it.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
They almost have all the starters back. I think it's
seventeen of the time two.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
And it's on this schedule.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Just looking at that, I mean they're going to be
favored in most games.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, I mean the three loose, Like okay, let's just
say you lose to Ohio Washington at home. They might lose,
but they can win Wisconsin at home, and then the
rest of their games all stink.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I couldn't believe when I saw there was eight, and
like I said, it started at seven.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
And a half.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
What do they know that we don't know what they
want to do with DraftKings.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
They want you to do it.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'm doing it, Iowa Lockey Lock Hawk Rock Hawk Lock.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I agree with you. When I was typing up my
spreadsheet here getting ready for the show and I had
the eight, I couldn't believe at that schedule.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
That is unbelievable to me that that is a all
right Maryland. The coach is Ralph Frigin right.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Close Mike Locksley. He did finish his third consecutive winning season.
Last year.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
They started five.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
And zero but then went two and five down the
stretch to finish seven and five?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Is Ralph frig alive?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
You killed two people last week, so be careful.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Look up and see if he's a love.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Who'd you kill last week? The Kansas coach and someone? Yeah,
Ralph frigin freegent. He went to the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think one year with Maryland.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
He's alive and well seventy seven years old.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Good. I'm glad. I mean that's that was the key
to me, that he that he is. They play yukon
non conference Villa Nova. They're just playing a basketball non
conference it looks like, and then it looks like they
play I guess Virginia is technically not in the Big Ten.
So they play Virginia on the road. You know, I

(15:25):
have no idea what's the over or what's the line
or games whatever? Six and a Half's what am I
looking for? What am I trying to say?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Win total? I guess six and a half. I'll add
they had four years of baby Tua as their quarterback
and he's gone, so this will be the first quarterback
in four seasons when.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
They play USC, Oregon, Iowa, and Penn State. So they're
gonna lose all those, so that's eight and so you
got to think that they only lose one more game
to go over. They also, you know, they go to Minnesota,
they play Northwest, and go to Indiana. I'm picking them
to lose that, so I'm gonna say under.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm going under too. Had that one circled, Like I said,
I think losing you're gonna make me tag.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
A to a taga viola.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, but he was, Yeah, I'm not gonna I call
him baby to a. I just think with a new
quarterback might be some growing pains, and with that schedule,
I'll go under.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Michigan, Okay, crazy, they won the national championship last year.
I don't think I know the coach's name. Before you say, what,
do you know the good new guy's name? Do char Moore? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
It's the uh that is Sharon Moore?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yes, did I just come up with that?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That was like Homer Simpson, like I, I I have
no idea what he looks like. I don't remember that.
I get that name.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You remember that weird interview where he was like crying
over hardball and the cheating.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, but I don't I don't know why I know
that name.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, you know the NEDD some text messages to me.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Now they're gonna have hardball back for the first game
he ended up canceling.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Connor Stallion's no longer with Michigan.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Connor Stallion's got a job defensive coordinator for a high.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
School, Detroit Mumford.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Look at you knowing the name of the high school
sounds like a porn name. Connor Stains or Detroit Mumford.
Maybe they're in the same film both.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I like to think Detroit Mumford is a Mumford and
Sons cover band Detroit.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I remember presid Billy pulled that out.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Of Detroit Mumford is is good? A good one is
a good one too? All right, what's the win.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Do Their win total is nine even this season. Their
big returner on the cover of College Football twenty five
is running back Donovan Edwards.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, I'm going under. So they play texts. I'm gonna
say they lose that game. They go to Washington, they
play Oregon, they go to Ohio State. So I mean,
if it's nine, you gotta assume they win one of
those games and then don't drop another game. And now,
to be fair, you look at the other games they play,
there aren't a lot that you would think they can drop.

(18:16):
But I don't think they're gonna get to ten, So
I'm not gonna pick something where the best I can
do is push, So I'm gonna go under.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, I think they lose Ohio State Texas if they lose,
all three of those games are at nine. So Wellington State,
even though it's a home game this year, that's always close.
I've been to that game before. They'll give them a game.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think Missions States supposed to be really bad.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's one of those rivalries though it doesn't really matter
how the teams look, they always keep it close. I'm
going under also, and I would love to hear Detroit
Mumford in concert.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
What is it? What was their big song wait Wait
for You? But their lead singer looked like Tim Tebow.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Remember I saw Marcus Mumford by himself at Realbird Is
much so like Mumford and Son's sons. Marcus count of
by himself, he's got a good thing.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
That was the other guy, his brother.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I think the sons, no, I guess, I don't know.
I just know Mark.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Why were they Mumford and Sons? Because he wasn't the dad.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Highly unlikely he was the dad puts on a great
show by himself.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I feel like you could get a really good couch
at Mumford and.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Could be a plumbing company and Sons any any local
LLC you could have it and Sons at the.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
This is gonna be a little bit of a off
topic aggression. And I know, should I watch any of
the Marvel movies? Yes? Why? Uh?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Because they're great?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Because we talked about this, you've seen them.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
All right, No, I mean not all of them. Not now.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I never watched Disney Plus, but now you get Hulu
with Disney Plus and so like I have to log
on to Disney Plus to get to Hulu. And it
keeps that Marvel movie, keep thinking, keep saying there, and
you know something you've known about me for a long time.
I like a lot of something. And it's just like
teasing me watch these Marvel movies. But I don't. I

(20:11):
don't want to. I don't think because I don't think
I like any of them.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Did you ever read comic books?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
No? No, yeah, no way, who reads comic books?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
A lot of people. I was reading the phone Book.
That's not true. I was more of a DC Batman guy.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, I just it feels like that's the one thing
in culture that, like, you know, I don't know TikTok
stars either, but the one thing in culture that like
I should know that I just don't know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
A little overwhelming.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
There's a lot of them, But if you want to
watch the hits, what's the.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
What's the best Marvel movie?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Probably Avengers Endgame? See.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I watched that one on a plane, and everyone's like,
you just watched the last one without seeing the others.
But I'm like, I don't know. That's what Delta had
for an option, and I turned it on.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I thought people said the one thing people have told
me I would like Wanda Vision.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I started that one as a tea made it. I
haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
It was fine.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I just felt like, kind of like you're saying, once
you're not in the Marvel universe, it moves on without you.
What are there like thirty something of them now? I
just feel like I missed the boat on all of them.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Have I told you I figured out what my TikTok
gimmick is going to be. I'm just I'm gonna it's
all gonna be about phone books. It's gonna be a
very niche. I'm just gonna pull out phone books and
go today kids, this is the Syracuse pull book. It's
actually from nineteen eighty seven. Let's look at it. No,

(21:36):
I uh, I'm gonna do pick of the day. So
every day I'm gonna do one where my head is floating.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, I don't let you always call your head floating.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
My head is floating. I'm just gonna talk about something
like my pick of the day. But it'll allow me
to talk about something different every day and it and
it could be something I think is good, something I
think is bad, Like maybe you're the pick of the
day what like, but like that way, it's that's my thing.
And then I don't feel like I have to dance
or anything like that. Do you like that a good start?

Speaker 3 (22:04):
We can get you a green screen, tell you how
to work that.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Get that marios. I'm not I don't know how to
do that.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Okay, just floating it.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Uh. I just remembered I have a party trick in
college that made me a lot of money. I can
open a bottle of wine with a phone book. Really,
no one ever believes it until I do it.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
All right. So that's but one day, my pick of
the day would be Drew opens up a phone book
with a wide bot.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I can I can do it with a with a
phone book and a shoe. And when I worked at
Malones on my last day of work, I was having
a little bit of fun and a guest wanted me
to do the shoe trick. And I started to take
my shoe off in the middle of Malones and the
server and they were immediately put your shoe back on,
get back.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Here and Malones after you worked at the rib place. Yes,
I climbed the climbed the ladder first time. Tony Romas, Yeah,
when I hired Drew, he we had just hired him
and I went and uh, I like, hired this new guy.
And I was like, you know, he's gonna be he's
gonna be young, he's gonna bring a fresh insight. And
then I went to Tony Robins and he was a
server there, and I was like, I don't think this

(23:05):
was a good idea.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I missed Tony Romas. Hey, Malon's too good money there.
But yeah, phone book trick. Maybe one day I'll reveal it's.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Gonna be my pick of the day one day, Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Uh, Minnesota. I thought Michigan State was next. Do we
don't want You're gonna skip over this part. Michigan State
they started to and oh, but then ended two and eight,
So not a great season. Fired.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
They ended two and eight. They didn't play their last
two games.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
They their final ten games, they finished two and eight
in them. Yeah, so four and eight total. They fired
Mel Tucker.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
And they have a new coach, Jonathan Smith from Oregon State.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
From Pocahontas, Captain John Smith.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's not a real person, Jonathan Smith. Actually, I think
one of Andy Basher's, maybe his chief of staff, is
named John Smith.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
That's a pretty good way.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Did he move from there to I bet you could
pick up any phone book and there'd be a John
Smith in it.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, it's like Matt Joe. Yes about that then, like
Matt Jones, I'm gonna take the under unless you tell
me it's three and a half.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
It is higher than three and a half. It is
an even five under.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
They'll beat pray View A and M, they'll beat Florida
Atlantic and they might not win another game under. What
do you got?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm looking at the schedule. They go to Illinois. I mean,
we we just covered what a traditional powerhouse Illinois is.
I'll go under as well. Yeah I don't trust John Smith.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah I don't either. Who was the Did you say
there was an explorer John Smith? Right? What did he?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah? Pocahontas in John Smith? That's the thing, right?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah? Where was Pocahontas? Like I know the movie, but
like was she a real person?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
As far as I know? It was a cartoon to
me growing up? But I.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I was thinking of John Smith. Wasn't he a religious
leader in Mormons? Or was that Joseph Smith?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Joseph Smith?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
If you'd watched the Book of Mormon like I told
you to, I know it's on the list.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah was he? John Smith and Pocahontas.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
According to disneyfandom dot com, where you're gonna catch up
on all my history, note, he is a renowned English
explorer that took part in Governor Ratcliffe's expedition to Virginia
where he met and fell in love with Pocahontas.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
There you go, see, I didn't I didn't know that Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I had a big twelve to ten victory against Iowa.
Seemed like they were on the right track. Then they
lost four straight. After that, they finished five and seven.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
PJ.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Fleck Row the boat head coach.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Big Road, the boat guy. Hey remember, so he was
he was a hot name there for a while from
Western Michigan.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Is that right, that's right?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I look at their schedule. They play North Carolina,
Rhode Island in Nevada, they get uc USC, Michigan, Iowa,
Penn State, and Wisconsin. So I'm going to say under
if it's six and a half. If it's six or more,
I might say over, what is it?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
It's five and a half? Ooh, they added a quarterback
from New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Doesn't make it any better. Well, I'm picking a lot.
I think I'm picking a lot of unders.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
But I guess I got a receiver from Georgia, receiver
from Penn State. They did well in the portal.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I'm going under. I think PJ. Flip Flack is a
little bit of it.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
He was, uh, he was one of the hottest names
in coaching. Then he went to Minnesota and just kind
of leveled off. I'll go over here just to be
a little different. I feel like we've been greening a lot.
I'm gonna trust fcs all American Max Brosmer from New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
I don't even know what that word means.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, we'll talk about it afterwards.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, I mean, should you beep it?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Why don't you beep it? And then people when people
have to guess what I said?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
All right, all right?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Nebraska Nebraska Matt Ruhle, former head coach in the NFL.
Right Baylor lifetime ago. Yes, lost five of seven games
by one score last year. Yeah, and they're sitting here
ready to go again.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Hard schedule, but I kind of like them this year.
I'm gonna go over. They're gonna beat you TEP, They're
gonna beat Colorado, they're gonna beat Northern Iowa. Then they're
gonna beat Illinois. They're gonna be Purdue. They're gonna beat Rutgers.
They have a very good chance of being six and
oh they do play Ohio State, USC in Wisconsin and
Iowa on the back end. But I think they'll beat
USCLA for seven, in Indiana for eight. So I have
eight definite wins. What's over and seven and a half?

(27:36):
Give me give me the over.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I like.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I think it's gonna be a good year for Nebraska.
You know, I'm not a Nebraska guy, but I think
they're gonna here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna start out
six and oh when everybody's gonna go Nebraska back, Think
Nebraska's back, Nebraska's back, and then game day or whatever
will go to like they're at Ohio State game and
it'll be but then they'll fall apart. But I'm still
gonna take them to go over seven a half.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I like it too. They're a disappoint last year and
I cashed in. I'm betting against them a lot last season.
They have a Dylan Raiola, the five star quarterback, taken
over this year, expect to have a big season. I'm
going over.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah. I like that one a lot. I like uh.
I like the over for Nebraska, and you know, as
people who have listened to me, I'm always a Nebraska hater,
but I think this one's gonna be good.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
They've been easy money lately betting against them. But their
quarterback was like top twenty recruit, five star. If he
can adjust to college football, he's they have high expectations
for him.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Northwestern, who this year is playing their games. Have you
seen the stadium they're playing in. They're playing in like
a high school state. Oh nice, Like they're playing in
like uh, look it up. I think they're literally playing
like in someone's backyard. Like it's it's a crazy that
the stadium they're playing in, the fact that they're going
to be major games. That's why I think they're playing

(28:49):
two or three games at Soldier Field is because the
stadium is so small. Like I think they're playing Ohio
State maybe at Soldier Field, and but like, yeah, they're
playing Ohio State Soldier Field and Illinois at Soldier Field.
But I think the rest of their games are literally
like in a high school state.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah, because they're building something new and it's not ready.
So I'm looking at it. Yeah, and it didn't give
you a good college big college football vibes.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I mean like it's it looks it literally looks like
it's just at a dude's house.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh, we're missing as a crane holding the scoreboard.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, So what's what's the what's the over? Well, what's
the first of all? Give me something about it.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
One of the surprises of the Big Ten last year
after the off season dismissal of Pat Fitzgerald UH seven
and five, and they promoted interim head coach David Brawn
to full time.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
All Right, I don't know him.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
What's the Fitzgerald was there a long time, including in
the Music City Bowl that shed in.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Trouble in the end for like, was it spanking players
or something?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Spaking players? He did have his scandal for it was
I don't know if he himself was bending them over
his knee, but yeah, no, there was a big hazing.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Telling me he didn't look at like Darnell Autry and
go bend over.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You've been a bad boy who takes off his bells
after practice. No, I don't think it was that extreme,
but there was a big hazing scandal that.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I think he was aware of it and didn't do much.
This look look like it was crazy. He was spanking players.
I knew there was something, all right, So what's the window?
Four and a half?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh? Is that it?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
It's all? Do you trust?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Remind me of Ohio Duke and Eastern Illinois. I'm gonna
say they win all those and then they get to three.
The problem is finding that fourth and fifth win is hard.
They have a rough, They have a brutal skin. Now
with that, I mean they played Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio State, Michigan, Washington.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
They play Ohio State and Michigan back to back. That's
not fair after going to Purdue.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Like though, four, I mean you said it was four
and a half. They're definitely gonna get three. I feel
like Illinois they can get would be four. So I
gotta do is find one more You think they can
beat Maryland?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, at Purdue or at Maryland is what you're looking
at is the flipping.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
It mean, I gotta go with one of these teams.
I've already said Maryland stinks. I think I'll go first.
You've been leading.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'll go over. I trust David Braun. They got the
spanker out of there. He's there to just coach football.
The atmosphere will be soothing to them. It'll just be
like they're in their backyard growing up, playing backyard football.
I'm going over.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'm going over to I went to college with a
guy named Greg Braun. He was kind of a jerk
to me then, so you would think I would want
revenge by saying under But you know what, in honor
of Greg Braun and the idea that yes, you can
be a jerk and I'm still gonna be nice to you.
I'm gonna pick the over, which I know is what

(31:49):
he wants for Northwestern, And if you know Greg Broun,
tell him it's not personal that I just brought him
up on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
But yeah, they have a familiar quarterback, Mike Wright, who
was at Vandy Beakentucky, then he went to Missus State
for a year, didn't really play that much, and then
here he is in Northwestern.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Ill good for you. Grat Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Eleven and one lost to Michigan for the third year
in a row.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They play at Oregon. Otherwise they're gonna win every game,
So feel good about this one. If it's ten and
a half, give me the over. Me too, it's ten
and a half. I like the over. They host Michigan.
I think Michigan takes a little bit of a step
back after losing Hardball. Iowa is my lock lock, but
this is in the conversation for a lock. Yeah, I
mean Georgia and Ohio State. If I don't know what
the odds would be on DraftKings for will both of

(32:34):
these teams make the playoff. But I would feel very
good of a bet of a Georgia Ohio State both
will make the playoff, partly because I think they're the
two teams, and then honestly, if you could throw in Utah,
you could probably get it about even money. And because
I think all three of those are making it. So yep.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
They bring a lot of starters back and they added
Will Howard, the best quarterback in the portal. Everyone says
from Kansas State. So I expect you had another good
year for Ohio State and they'll finally get Michigan.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oregon is in the Big Ten. Don't know why. They
have a weird schedule. They play Idaho, Boise State, and
Oregon State and then they're like, now let's go play
our conference games on the other side of the country. Again.
They host Ohio State and then that you look at
their schedule and you're like, all right, well, where are
they gonna lose?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I mean, is he over under ten? Ten and a half?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
See, I don't love the ten and a half because
they could lose to Washington, could lose to Michigan.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Got Dylan Gabriel at quarterback, No Nicks, probably best quarterback
in the conference. Yeah, I'm gonna go over. I think
they'll win eleven as well, at least what any information
from you that.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
They had that crazy game versus Washington last year. Yeah,
besides that, I mean they pretty much destroyed every other team.
Besides that in Texas Tech, I like them.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I mean it's ten and a half. I wish it
was ten, but if it's ten and a half, I'll
still taken over. You know, they if they were to
somehow beat Ohio State, then I think it's a lot
like if you bet Ohio State and Oregon to go
over ten and a half, you're guaranteed, I think, to
win one of them and then the other one. You're
just hoping the team goes undefeated otherwise. So if I'm

(34:07):
gonna bet one of them as well, bet them both.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah. As we said with Michigan, I have Michigan slipping
this year. In Ohio State and Oregon are my two
national championship contenders out of this conference. So I like
the Overallso Penn State James Franklin.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
One double digit games for the fifth time under James Franklin,
but they lost to both Ohio State and Michigan. And
that's what you gotta do is win those games. As
the Penn State coach ten and three overall.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
At USC, Ohio State, Washington are the only games that
may be Wisconsin so at Wisconsin. So there's four potentially
losable games. I think you're gonna tell me the over
unders nine and a half, right.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Ten and a half?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Under me too.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I like the under as I just said. With Michigan,
I think Penn State and Michigan are like running third
and fourth in this conference behind Ohio State and a half.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
That feels high, friends of draftings. I mean, they play
Ohio State at USC, They're gonna be an underdog probably
in both of those games. Right, Maybe not at USC,
but I would think so.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Their defense was amazing last year, but there were times
their offense was hard to watch.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah. I like the under there me too. Purdue.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
When I think of Purdue, I think of Drew Brees's mole.
That's what you think is fair? I mean, I mean,
he's the most famous quarterback from Purdue, and that's the
most famous mole in football. It's not he never took
it off, did he. I I like that though, Like,
why would I take it off? Man looks like a
man looks right?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
FA One of the most famous moles in people Cindy Crawford,
Sindy Crawfords, but hers was cute. His is big.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
You don't think Brees got cute little moll.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
The guy from Austin Powers.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I mean, it probably is one of the more famous ones.
Is there anybody else you can think of? Like? I
get little moles on my face, but I usually try
to get him taken off. It looks like most people
people don't, or some people don't. Drew Brees doesn't.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I mean, Cindy Crawford just immediately comes to mind. Kate
Upton had a little bit of a mole. She was
following the Cindy Crawford path.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Billy, did you know that Drew and I once that
one night we both danced with Kate.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Both of you danced with me. I think she still
talks about before the Justin Verlander days.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Huh oh, Yeah, Me and me and Drew spent like
all night with her.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
She for some reason was uncomfortable around everyone but us.
Maybe we just seemed normal. I think she just held
her purse for like an hour. She said, we hold
this off.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
She sort of saw us as harmless. There's a I
have a picture. There's a picture of me and Drew
and her and DeMarcus Cousins. There's a picture of the
four of us. He was ruined our vibes. And then
I have a picture of her, of me and her,
where like in the moment she was very friendly, like
hugging me like I was her best friend. But for

(36:55):
some reason in the picture, I look really like creepy
with her, Like it looks like I'm which makes me
mad because I always want to post that picture, but
then it looks like I'm like, it doesn't look good
for me, even though I mean the whole night I'm not.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say she
was into me Andrew. She wasn't. But like we had
a ton of fun with her. And I have to

(37:16):
tell you, I barely knew who she was that night.
That video of her dancing at the the game had
just come out. She did the dougie yeah, and that
hadn't that just come out? So the party, it's like
I had seen her, but I really didn't know who
she was. I mean, she wasn't so famous. They couldn't
bring her in for that Derby party.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
They wouldn't have set her down with me and you
if she were an a list day.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
It was me and Drew and her and DeMarcus cousins.
Basically the whole night.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Not only did we dance with her, we got one
of those photo booths where you have the hats and glasses.
Remember we did that too. I still have those on
my phone. I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
That might have been, along with Marilyn Manson, the most
real communication you and I have ever had with his celebrity.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I means of importance? What's celebrity to her level? Says
I gotta go. You just hold my purse and then
just left me there. I'm like, this is Kate Upton's purse. DeMarcus,
I'm just in charge of this. DeMarcus was convinced they
were hooking up, and.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
She must have friend zoned you pretty quickly. You're holding purses.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well. At the end of the night, she was going
to waffle house and I asked her, I think it's
her cousin or manager. Yeah, said we'd go, and instead
of getting a phone number, I got an email. Dress
but that wasn't a note. That wasn't a note. I
got an email instead of a phone number.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Whit did you? You asked her to go to waffle house.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
No, they were going to waffle house and I were like,
we go and she was like, yeah, let's leak up
and she pulls out her phone. I'm like, am I
about to get a number? But then she gave an
email address.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
That picture's like really a different era of the two
of us. I mean, like we're both fatter than.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
We are not.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I hadn't grown a beard yet, you had not grown
a beerd you look the babyface young in that picture.
That was a fun night, though, That was a night
de Marcus Cousins threatened Pete Thamel. Someone I won't see
who they are, but someone with a small level of
fame texted me last night out of the blue completely
ran him and him from a while, Like remember that
nine Pete Amil was in Louisville and you all walked

(39:08):
up on him just well, we walked up behind DeMarcus
to see it. Yeah he didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
DeMarcus was gonna let When I see Pete Tham on TV,
I just think to myself, you know you're lucky that DeMarcus. Yeah, fame.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Also, he why is he on Game Day?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
He has the charisma? Okay, I gotta be careful ESPN.
I mean he has the charisma though of a paper bag.
I mean he's at ESPN because he's Adrian Mojenowski's I mean, basically,
Adrian Rojanowski is a huge amount of pool at ESPN
and he they're friends, and so that's why he's there.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
He went from tearing down in his canter and trying
to tear down Eric bloods one DeMarcus Cousins to tell
me which football games to watch. I just I don't.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I don't support that really has no charisma, like at
least I mean, Adrian Morojanowski has some charisma, but Pete
is like just sucks the air.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I didn't see him in the photo booth with Kate Upton,
but I.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Have to say, I mean, great employee with me, great colleague,
great colleague, Rutgers the scarlet.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Did we even give our picks? We just really wanted
to brag about knowing Kate Upton.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And we did. They played Notre Dame, they go to
Oregon State. Tough schedule. What's there over under four.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
And a half.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's a tough non conference.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Do you want me to lead off? I'm going under
I think I trust it.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I think game too, that there's not a game that
I look at and say that's an obvious win except
Indiana State.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
They were in the big Team Big Ten Championship with Brohm.
They go to the new coach whose name is what again.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Ryan Walters, who has Illinois defensive.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, and then they would they win like three or
four games. I don't have faith in Ryan Walters.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, it was not a lot. Perdue was four and eight.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, that's I like the under because I think, except
for Indiana State, there's not a game on that schedule
you can say they're definitely gonna win. So give me
the under. I actually would put that second to my
what was it Iowa?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Was my Lock, Lock Locke.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think this would be this would be the rock
Chalk second place Lock. We're feeling good about some of these.
We really ones. I feel like I kind of am
seeing it.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Rutgers big success for them last year they went six
and six under Greg Shechiano, who's back first winning. I
forgot the records since twenty fourteen because they went seven
and six after the Bowl win and only allowed twenty
one points a game on defense that was very solid.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
So the good thing for them is they avoid most
of the good teams. They go to Virginia Tech, but
then they do not play Ohio State. They do not
play Michigan, they do not play Penn State, they do
not Pluy. They do play usc but they avoid the
best teams in the conference. Let me guess, is its.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Gavin Wims quarterback?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Is it six and a half?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
It was, it's moved down to six from people betting
the under, so it's six even.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Now give me the over. They're gonna beat Howard, They're
gonna beat Akron.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
You're going against the public.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
They're gonna lose three straight. But then they're gonna finish strong.
They're gonna beat UCLA, They're gonna beat Minnesota, they're gonna
beat Maryland, The're gonna beat Illinois. The're gonna beat Michigan State.
Like I think they're gonna finish strong, I'll take the over.
I think they at least win six, so I'll give
us a shot at winning seven.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I'll go over to they had a great defense last
year and bring a lot of those guys back. Uh,
they're replacing Gavin Wims it with Athan Caliak menace Ye,
I like that guy from Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Would you take under? No? I'm going over over.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I think it got bet down too much, so I'm
gonna go the other way.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
It sounds like the quarterback. He pronounces it like the
town in Kentucky, like Athens. Instead of Athens, he's Athen.
I'm reading it off a website. Yeah, I did my homework,
not my pronunciation homework. Uh, Ucla. Here's what's interesting about UCLA.
They're playing Hawaii and normally teams decide to play Hawaii

(43:03):
because if you play Hawaii, as an incentive to play Hawaii,
they'll let you play an extra game. Did you know that? No,
because nobody wants to schedule. Why because it's so far away,
so to get so much out of you, So to
give teams incentive to play Hawaii. If you play Hawaii,
you get to play a thirteenth kame. Wow, UCLA is
playing Hawai, but then just said no on the.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Thirteenth k Yeah, don't need the money.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
But isn't that kind of odd? Just like nope, not interesting?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
It is.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, no Hawaii for us.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
So they're supposed to be awful. Who's their coach?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Deshaun Foster, former UCLA NFL running back.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Really he had the famous media day moment. He was
clearly he was so nervous, and he said, we're excited
to be here where UCLA. We're located in Los Angeles,
and that's all he said.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
These some things you don't know about us.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
We're located in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
We played that on ESPN when I hosted.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
That was great on your Hawaii point, real quick fun fact,
Delaware State opens with them and they missed their bus
to the airport and they're having trouble getting to Hawaii for
a week zero. So you're talking about how hard it
is to schedule teams. They finally get an opponent and
Delaware State was late to JFK and I couldn't get there.
It's too bad.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I was at JFK that day.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It was busy see Delaware State running to.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Their but I was there. I was there that day
and I remember thinking, man, this is busy, you know, Billy.
I was able to Oh, so it was like but
if you if you didn't, it might have been hard.
That delta line was way way long.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Now, the of course, don't look very fun here recently,
and I like to fly. It just seems to be chaos.
Every time I open Twitter, there's a New Airport with
I walked up Madness flight to.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Cincinnati delayed and I was like, oh was it? The
flight was supposed to be at two thirty nine. So
I walk up to the woman at the counter and
I go, how long is this delay too? And she
goes to forty one. I got that in me. I
was like, what flash in red lights? Delayed? If it's
going to be two minutes? Like, just don't even tell me?

(45:06):
I mean, but they did. What's the over under?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
I have UCLA again. It's one that's moved. It opened
at five and a half, now it's down to five.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah. I like the under. They're not winning six games.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Really. I know their coach as a famous running back,
but just seeing him at the podium made me wonder
if he's cut out to be a head coach. I
get it, not everybody can public speak. I'm not great
at it either, but that was really embarrassing as his
first media day. So I just don't know if he's
if he's cut out to lead the Bruins. I'm going
under two.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Tough schedule for USC play LSU play Notre Dame, and
then the regular conference schedule, which will include Washington. Well, actually,
they miss a lot of the other good teams at Michigan.
Who's their coach, Lincoln Riley? Right, that's right? Yes, what's
there over? Under?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Uh? Seven and a half, Yes, seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the over. They're gonna
they'll beat either LSU or Notre Dame probably well, maybe neither.
But then you look at their schedule, like, I don't
see a ton of games they'll lose. They do play
Penn State, they play Michigan.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I'm going under. They actually have some Notre Dame, Nebraska,
they have some teams that we've picked overs for so
we if we don't want to contradict ourselves, I'm going over.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I mean under.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Excuse me, mm, you make good points. But they beat
Louis Blake thirty five in the bowl game.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
It's true. I'm gonna go over. Well, we'll contrast on
that one. I'll believe in the power of a trojan.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
The Caleb Williams is gone. He's off to your bears.
Hard Knocks has been awesome, by the way it has.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
I'm liking Kayle Williams. You know where he carries a purse?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, fingernail poplay but.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
He's mad about that. What's wrong? I mean a purse
is actually like a I don't carry one, but like.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
You got a lot of blongie. Look, I got this
big backpack right here.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I'd love to know what's base.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Uh, Well, there's a difference between a person a satchel
as well. I mean there's a lot of differences.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I think i'd say, why why why why can't If
you can carry a satchel and a man can do that,
why can't he carry a purse.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I don't know. I mean gender norms. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I just think of all the gender norms, that's a
dumb one.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Well, especially if you got stuff to carry, right.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Like a jockstrap at least makes sense. Why is it
a bad I should wear a fanny pack more often?
To be honest, we anti fanny pack. How do you
all feel about that?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
You know a few.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Times the punter for the Bears, I don't know if
he wants me to say this, but that's okay. The
punter for the Bears is Australian and he was featured
on the episode last night. They talked to him a lot.
So this morning I got up, I saw Max, I
go a, uh, well, I hadn't seen him in like
a week. I was like, hey, man, do you see
the that's not you need to watch a new episode
of Hard Knocks. They're the Australian guys there. He was like,

(48:01):
I hate him. I go, really, I thought you guys
all liked each other and he was just like no,
he was like he's the worst.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
As he competition got it.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I guess I thought they'd all like each other.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You know, my Titans open up the season at Chicago,
so this has been a nice scouting report. Oh that's right,
because they were Will Levis game. I thought ESPN was
going to sit. When I looked at the schedule, I
thought they were going to send us, and then they didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
But you're going down Washington open up against Weber State
and then they play in the Apple Cup against Washington State.
Tell me about the new Washington coach.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I don't know much about him.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Well, tell me what his name is. How about we'll
start with that.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
I don't have that one either, Jed Fish. There you go,
how do you not have it?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (48:48):
We were we were transitioning to a CC and I
wasn't aware of that. Yeah, I jumped ahead a little
bit undefeated regular season.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
They did, it's a championship game. Actually was competitive for
a while. What's what's the the win total?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
The win total is six and a half. They lost
Michael PENNOCKX to the NFL, drafted much higher than anyone expected.
They bring him Will Rogers for Mississippi State. We all
know Will Rogers from the SEC.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Say they lose to Oregon, say they lose at penn State.
Let's even say they lose at Iowa. Still seven and
a half, six and a half, six and a half.
Give me the over. Why is everybody so down? And why?
I mean they don't play great teams? Give me over?
I like that one.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I'm doing the math here. I kind of agree with you.
A lot of their teams on the schedule I've taken
unders for so we can have Washington help us out
by winning those games. I'll go over.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Let's go finally, Wisconsin, Ron Daan, that's.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Right, Wisconsin. Not a great year last year.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Are you still with us, Billy? Are you in the ACC?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Now?

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Can we go back? Tell me the Wisconsin coaches to
start with.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I can tell you they went seven and six last year.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
So you don't know who the coach is.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
No, Luke Fickle. Everybody knows Luke Fickle from Cincinnati went
up to Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
J J. Watts no longer there. Russell Wilson's no longer there.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
They play Alabama, which is a pretty amazing scheduling thing
for them. They decide to They're hosting Alabama. That'll be
a big day in Madison. I don't know. This is
maybe the one I know the least of what to do.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Their quarterback is Tyler Van Dyke from Miami. Last year.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
He was good. He was like what some of the
people thought would get drafted, right, and then he ended
up at Wisconsin. What's the what's the window? Seven? Excuse me? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Seven?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Even all right. They're gonna lose to Oregon. They're gonna
lose to Penn State, the lose at Iowa, the loose
to USC to lose to Alabama. So I'm at seven
right there. I'm gonna take an off the board under
because I think the best I can do is push.
So when I just taking under.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Look into the odds the unders minus one forty, so
everyone agrees with you. I will also go under. They
won seven games last year. I think at best. You
pushed there, but I'll take the under.

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Let's go to the ACC.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I've bet on the ACC. Ready to go.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You want to talk about it? We're talking about a
conference that's stupid. Well, why are these teams in this conference?

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Well, half of them were trying to get out of
the conference.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
They should have. You looked at it.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
It won't be there much longer.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
You think they're the ones that go away? Think so? Well, Okay,
I'll tell you what let's play as we do this.
You picked the conference this team will be in in
seven years. Oh goodness, okay, let's do that as we're going.
All right, Boston College. Tell me about them.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Their new head coach, Bill O'Brien. May I heard of him.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
He was therefore right first year year.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
But didn't he coach there like fifteen years ago? Oh?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
I think that's he was.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
He was at Penn State, but I think before that
he was at Boston College.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
That that is a possibility.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
And then their coach like left to be a coordinator somewhere, right.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
I don't have that. They did win the with Sabby
Fenway ball against SMU seven and six record for them
last year, their.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Quarterback, excuse me, their coach went to the Packers to
be the defensive coordinator. Bill O'Brien was at the Patriots
last year.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
I'm gonna go ahead and tell you I have no clue
what the thing. I don't know who's on the team.
I don't know if they're good. I have no idea.
So just give me a win total and I'll just
flip a coin.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Five wins.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Of course, it's an even number, which makes it hard.
All right, they'll beat Ducaine. They're not gonna win at Missouri,
They'll beat Western. Sorry, Billy, I'm going under, which is
tough because it's five they don't have to win, but
I'm gonna go under.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I'm gonna believe in the Patriots brands coming over with
Bill O'Brien. I think the win that flips them to
the over is they beat Louisville. How about that?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I like it all right, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I got a lot of starters back. It's a good coach.
Everybody knows who Bill O'Brien is. I'm gonna trust him.
In year one in Boston, I Cal Cow Cal's in
the ACC stop Like that's so dumb.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
It is dumb, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, who's their coach?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Justin Wilcox. It's been there a long time.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I was looking at ESPN sends out a press release
every week that I'm on, where they tell you who's
going to announce each game, you know, in this opening
week because so many teams play one double A teams
or whatever, they have to get announcers that they don't
use like any other week of the year.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
So like, you know, so tell me you're calling an
ACC game.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
No, But I did look and I saw that Cal
was playing UC Davis, and I thought, if you get
a signed this game, do you just go maybe go
into accounting, you start somewhere, Vince so where you are.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
In your career.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Oh, if I'm fifty five and I get Cal you
see Davis, I'm saying, no, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Not doing it because you don't even get to do
many games. That means you're so low on the depth
chop they're not using you again this year.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But if I'm twenty four and trying to get my
fond do I would love calvers UC day now.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I say that if they asked me, I'd be there
in a minute. But like, I'm also not married.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
And you would not say much about the game. You
would be talking about phone books and book the Moth.
You would enjoy it, Yeah, I would use. I've offered
to call games and they've politely.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Declined We're good. I was like, you could, you're already
paying me, I'll do it for free. They're like, you
know what, you just keep doing what you're doing?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Great?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Uh, what's the what's the over end?

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Which one about CAL six six? Even that's higher than
I would have thought it was six and a half
slid down to six even I have a question. I
know traveling doesn't really matter this day and age, but
looking at their away games, they are nowhere near California
when they're playing they at all, I feel like it
has to matter in some scenario.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
At Auburn at Florida State, at pitt at Wake Forest.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
At SMU. I mean, that's so a lot of times
I think the trap stuff's overrated. But when you're going
from California, have five times completely across the country and
starting a new in a new conference, I actually think
that will weigh on.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Them a little. I'm going under. I just don't know
where those winds are. Where are those wins? Well, you
see Davis, Okay, you think they beat San Diego State.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
They're gonna have to get anywhere near that wind total. Yeah,
I'm sorry, that's under Maybe Stanford, Yeah fine, but I'm
still under.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm under as well.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Clemson. I cannot stand Dabo Sweety. Just need to get
that on the record. He's still a coach, right is
Gaully g I ain't gonna take tranfer. They don't follow
the Lord. It's what we do here, Clempson.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
He's not changing for the rules we do in all
heavenly follow What did he say in ile stood for No?
He said we do it in the name, image and
likeness of God. I thought, we do it full for night,
the image of the lightness.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Of the Lord.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Then they beat Kentucky in a bowl game.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Do you know who Jimmy Swagger is? That's the impression.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I just I didn't know what you're going for.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
If it was Jimmy Swagger was a televangelist who who
bought a prostitute and then he had to go on
TV and he had to apologize for like live on
his church. And he got up there and he started
crying and he goes, oh asum against you, my Lord,
and like he's crying and is like his makeup starts running.

(58:36):
I think of Dabbo Sweeney when I see.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
That guy, like her little baby Billy in there too.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Well, baby Billy is based on Jimmy Swagger.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Okay, that makes sense?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
No, I mean, like baby Billy has the same slick
back hair Jimmy Swagger. Does you need to look up
Jimmy Swag? Like Jimmy Swagger was until Billy Graham's kid,
he was the worst, like the most scam the list preacher,
and then Billy not Billy Grant, Jerry fall Wells kid,
Jerry foll Well's kid blew him out of the water.

(59:07):
But what are we on? Okay, what's over?

Speaker 3 (59:11):
It?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Nine and a half over?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
As much as I don't like him, they'll lose to Georgia.
They might lose at Florida State, but then they're not
gonna lose another game. You know, I'm gonna go under.
You're slipping.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
They were kind of a failure last year by their standards,
where they have like nine wins. I think they'll slip
up somewhere you can't, you know, push the portal away
in n I l and continue to be on the
run that they were a few years ago. I think
they're gonna continue to slip.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Their quarterback is supposed to be really good, right, Like,
don't they have a young guy that everybody's club. Yeah,
it's supposed to be good, right.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, But Dabbo's just so stubborn and it's changed so
much since he had Deshaun Watson in those good runs.
I just feel like they're gonna get farther and farther
away from being at the top.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
All right, I like.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
That splip duke Duke Manny diaz is do you remember
that name? Former Miami coach.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
We interviewed him, and we interviewed him on the Fine
Bomb Show one time. Had nothing you said?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
You said to me, Manny Diaz from Miami's on and
I didn't know it was that the hurricane the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
That was the first time we ever hosted Fine Bomb
and I brought Drew on and they go all right.
And we sat with the producer and he was like,
all right, here's a rundown for today. We got Many
diaz on Andrew and I both said we need some
more info. They said Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Coach still didn't know. That didn't help it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
He was like maybe baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I knew it wasn't Skulstra, so I eliminated that one,
but it could have been the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Say it like, we got many diaz on and we
did both go all right, sported a little more than the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Manny Robertson. I don't know what's what's the wind to
the wind total is five and a half. As they
replaced Mike Elko who went to a and m I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Gonna go they had a good year they did. I'm
gonna go. Elon's a win, Yukon Middle Tennessee. It's pretty
hard from there. Would you say five and a half,
I'll go under. If it was four and a half,
i'd dad. I think they went five.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Elko had a good run, But I think Duke goes
back to being Duke. With all due respect to many Ds,
one of my all time favorite Miami coaches. I'm good
joining you on the under Yeah, any DS that I
wonder if he thinks about us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Another good Me and Drew hosting Fine Bomb is we'd
spend a whole day preparing to which SEC town would
we not want to live in? Ranking we were basically
going to spend the whole day making fun of SEC towns.
And then right before the show, the assistant coach at

(01:02:05):
Ohio State gets allegations that he beat his wife and
we had to do remember that, Yeah, and Drew and
I had to host that show with that crowd. Okay,
so we're having to talk about domestic abuse allegations with
the Fine Bomb audience about Ohio State, who they all hate,

(01:02:29):
and it was so new like the other shows hadn't
talked about it like it was the first esp the
guy who broke the story, who was Bret McMurphy, and
ESPN had not had him on all day and they
were getting a lot of criticism online for not having
him on, and so they just decided to put him
on Fine bamb because Fine Bomb knew him. But nobody

(01:02:50):
bothered to check that Fine Bomb was off that day.
So all of a sudden, my producer goes. The president
of ESPN just called, he really needs you to handle this,
And all of a sudden, the president of you at
ESPN is trying to make sure I don't screw this
interview up, which I don't know. They thought I'd like
fallen off a turnip truck. I was gonna be a
little brilliant, you know, I was. Actually it was a

(01:03:12):
legal things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
He actually worked out very well for it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
It worked out and it actually it's how I got
my that interview, and that day is how I got
my national trust.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
You after that, no, I mean they that's I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
That's how I got on the radar.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Was that day, Zack Smith. That was a guy's name,
good memory. All I wanted to do was make fun
of Starkville, and we had to talk about Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And we we had talked. I mean, listen, domestic abuse
is awful and trying to talk about it on the
Fine Bomb Show three hours. It's not exactly an easy thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Florida State, well, they beat Louisville in the conference championship
game and then we're destroyed in their bowl game.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
But they planned to play like random guys.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah, Mike Norval.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Okay, they're gonna play in Dublin and then pretty easy schedule. Honestly,
I mean, like you look at it. They play Clympson,
they're at Miami, and they play Notre Dame. I'm gonna
assume it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Ten and a half, nine and a half. Give me
the It's gonna be good. They got dj U from
Oregon State. Even though I like to make fun of
them at the end of last season when they didn't
get in the playoff, I think they're gonna be back
in the conversation this year. They're gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Ramlin wreck of Georgia Tech. Who's their coach?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Bret Key?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
No idea?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I know that name. Where'd he come from?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I know he was interm he was an intern.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
An interim, head coach say in interim interim, way this we're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Now stopping a second intern intern.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
No, you keep saying interm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah, in turn t E R or interim three syllables
if you're there's words interim in turn.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
First of all, we started by you couldn't say interim.
Now you can't say intern. Is there something wrong with
how you say words.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
That start with I?

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
You say enter enter intern.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
That wasn't great inter Okay, So let's try again. Let's
start with we have it KSR, interns, interns. You got
that I was an intern once there you go, that
was great. You did a lot better when you didn't
just sound it out now interim interim?

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Is that it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Why was that so much?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
How did you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I don't know. I got a lot going on, you know,
I'm trying to write your thing down, and I'm trying
to figure out who the head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Frustrated Georgia is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Okay, who even.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Knows what conference are you on? Now? We're in the ACC,
you know. Oh yeah, wait till you call a random
town here in a little.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Bit that you open the season in the air Lingus
College Football Classic Drew got Erlings. What do you got? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
They're win total?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, did I say it? Nine and a half? No, way,
we're on. We're in Georgia Tech.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Georgia Tech five.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Sorry, they're playing each other and we've got them back
to back and thrown off five.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Their schedule is hard, like you look at it. They
play they play Florida State, they play Miami, they play
North Carolina, they play Notre Dame, they play Georgia, they
play at Louisville. Where are they winning five games under?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, I'm trying to find a way to give them
an over. I don't I might even go under on four.
I mean, I don't know where they're winning the games.
Five is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
They're gonna be Georgia State v and my and then Yeah,
that's a definite. I'm going under. That's gonna be. That's
so far. That's my lead for acc lock. All right,
Georgia Tech under Louisville. Jeff Brom I know this one.
What do you know? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
I just know, Jeff Brom.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Well lost to Kentucky last game of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Well done, they were great. Then they lost their last
three games and embarrassing performances. What's the win total this year?
Eight and a half?

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Another one I feel strongly about, not just as a
Louisville hater, go for it under why even though they
had a great record last year until the end of
the season, even their opponents they should have handled, they
were all one possession games. I think they were five
and oh in one possession games. That doesn't last forever.
I think that it flips the other way this year.
So it's it's eight and a half. Okay, I'm taking under.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
At Notre Dame Miami at Clemson. I mean, it basically
comes down to if you think Kentucky's gonna beat them
or not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
And we already know how I feel about that one.
I think they slip up somewhere else, though.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
You do, but where just Virginia would suspect that they're bad.
Games are against really bad teams.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
At Boston College, how about right there?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Bill, I'm gonna go because I'm gonna pick Kentucky to
beat them. But really, honestly, if if they beat Kentucky,
they'll go I mean they're gonna have They're gonna be
eight and three coming into that Kentucky game. So okay,
Uh Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
Miami Mario crystal Ball. You know, they had a couple
hiccups last year, seven and five.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Twelve and thirteen and two years ago. Then this year,
by the way, I think you're gonna tell me nine
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Right, it is nine even easy?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Oh you're going I'm high Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
This year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
They're gonna lose. They'll lose at They'll lose to Florida State.
But I think they go. I think they go eleven
and one. It's pretty easy schedule, easy schedu They play
at Florida, which started season, but if they win that game,
I think they're going eleven and one. Miami is another. Like,
what's the odds for Miami to get the playoff? I
don't know what it is, but I I like the

(01:08:57):
I like my I think Miami's gonna have a good year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I think Florida State, Miami, maybe Clemson are your your
three playoff teams you're looking at, and you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Might get three from the ACC, which is gonna be
very rare I think in the future, but I think
you might get it this year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I have Clemson slipping, but I think Florida State and
Miami the other two in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
N C State at Clemson, Tennessee. Who's their coach?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Dave Dorran got it some of us that our homework.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Billy I was on North Carolina alphabetically.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Is okay, that's fine. Tell me what's they're over under.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
They're over under is eight and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Eight and a half, eight and a half. I'm gonna
go under talking about NC State, m hmm. Yeah. I
think they're one of those teams that always slightly underperforms.
Give me in C State.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Under it took a quarterback from Coastal Carolina. They won
five of six at the end of last year. I'll
be different, go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Over, Okay. I do not have strong opinions about in
C State North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Mac Brown lost Drake May from last year eight and four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
That replaced Drake May with Max Johnson, one of the
A and M quarterbacks that they couldn't get figured out
last year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Brad Johnson's son.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
He is a lefty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yeah, we're running out of time, and I don't really
have any strong thoughts one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Seven and a half is the total.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I'm gonna go over. Like mac Brown, don't think he
fails I'll go over with you, all right, Let's run
through Pitt, SMU, and Stanford, quite frankly, because I don't
care about any of them. Give me Pitt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Pitt totals five and a half. Last season they went
three and nine with Pat Nardoozy under SMU. He was
their worst season since nineteen ninety eight. I'll go under two.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
SMU. They're going to be better than you think. Is
it seven and a half? Six and a half?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Eight and a half. That's too many. I was with you.
They can't do eight and a half. They're new to
the conference. It's just gonna be weird that they're there
in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
SMU. Uh, you know that's like the SMU is a
school that rich people go to. Like like SMU is
the school when when people in the Dallas area when
they have kids and they want their kid to go
to like Duke or whatever, but they can't get in,
they send them to SMU.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
And then SMU got in the conference and they like
take a deal like they they don't. Yeah, they can
put off their money for the cents to the dollar,
like they let s m U. They're like at SMU,
you can work as a bouncer here you can you
can hang out, but we're not giving you any of
the money.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
It would be impressive if they came in and made
a big splash. But I'm gonna go under.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I will say this, SMU per capita, the hottest mothers
of students.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Hottest mothers of students. Okay, like parents weekends. We're old enough.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Now that like you can't talk about the students, the children,
but the on parents weekend. If you you're looking for
divorced moms Dallas, no, because the divorce mom a probably
got a good settlement in the divorce. Because everybody's rich
at that school.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Everybody Settlement mom university.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
That's what it stands. Settlement mom university University, Billy. That's
where you go to meet. Well, you're getting married, but
that's where in theory a single person like myself, that
might be where I'm not saying I've gone out with
an SMU mom, but maybe I have. And I'm telling
you that's where that that that's what that school's done for.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Not too far away from Austin, same state.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
So eight and a half, you're going under the single moms,
have your attention.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I haven't looked at their schedule. I'm gonna go under
just because it's a new conference. Stanford. Yeah, who knows
who's the coach?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Troy Taylor, not David Shaw anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Troy Taylor sounds right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Another one with we're talking about the travel fun fact.
They will travel eighteen thousand miles this season just to
play their games. That's a lot. Four and a half,
three and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
While they'll beat San Jose State, they'll beat cal Poly,
They're gonna go on the road and up sant Syracuse.
They're gonna beat Wake Forest for homecoming.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Over they were ranked outside the top one hundred in
offense and defense each of the last three years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I'm going under.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Andrew lockein't walking through that. I want you to think about.
Can you imagine the excitement in Palo Alto when the
wake Forest demon Deacons come in for homecoming. The band
will be on the field, Tiger Woods in the stands.
The over is a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Then a couple weeks later, Louisville comes to town. They'll
be excited about that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
You want to talk about a mismatch of academic profiles
Stanford versus Louisville. I'm going under Syracuse. The QS is
in the house. Oh my god, who's the coach?

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
New coach Fran Brown defensive backs coach from Georgia replaces
Dino Barbers neighbors.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
He got fired.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
It's a man named Frans franf Shillah. Okay, what's the
over under? It is seven even under. I've got him
losing Ohio or excuse me, beating Ohio. But then they're
gonna lose to Stanford'll be well. They do have an
easy schedule. But yeah, I'm looking at the schedule. I'm
gonna go over. I trust Fran Brown. Friends.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
The man don't play anyone hard. Fran came from Georgia,
where he was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
The national can't believe I'm gonna take over on Syracuse.
But that is an easy schedule. They do not play
Florida State. They do not play Clemson. The only good
team they play is Miami, and they play the worst
teams in the conference. They play Stanford, they play col
They play a yukon pitt.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Wait till i'll tell you who their quarterback is, Kyle
McCord from Ohio State. Guys play a little bit of ball.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna go over. I can't believe I'm going
over on Syracuse, but I think you have to Virginia.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Tony Elliott, head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
You said that like I would know who that is,
should I not?

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Necessarily? He was at Clemson for a while as an
offensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Okay, they've had consecutive seasons with three or fewer wins
for the first time since nineteen eighty one. Haven't been
doing well lately.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
They play Richmond. That's really the only game you can
certainly say they're gonna win. Actual they have a hard
schedule at Virginia Tech, at Notre Dame, at Clemson, at
Coastal Carolina. They're going to Coastal Carolina. They're gonna lose
that game. Unless you tell me this number is two
and a half, I'm your way under four and a

(01:15:54):
half under and Tony Elliott has never won more than
three games. You talk about the program on the fall
under Virginia, what's yours?

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Certainly under Virginia like that a lot Virginia Tech, Brent Priye, Okay,
I would not have guessed that. Yeah, didn't they have?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
They had that guy from Memphis, what was his name?

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
J C.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Price or Justin.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
You mean they've had a coach since the guy from.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Memphis in term. There we go again, interim.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Why is that so hard? You did it? You did
it just a minute ago.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Now I've got a mental block on that second half
of that word.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
If you don't think about it, you seem to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, Like if I'm just filling in, I'm an interim
head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
See you got it there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
The brain is weird though, you know what I mean,
Like seriously, like the brain works in weird ways. That
may just be like a mental block that you can
say it if you just but if you think about
it you can.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Yeah, well it looks like it sounds okay, maybe it's
on me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
What's what's the number?

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
The eight and a half? I was gonna bring up
they've also had Bud Foster there from Somerset. Kentucky's no
longer there, but that was a Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I'm gonna go over that schedule is not hard. Clemson
in Miami and that's really it. And it's eight and
a half, eight and a half. Yeah, they're gonna win
nine games. Give me Virginia Tech over you. Big Brent
Prye guy, love him, love everything about him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I'm looking at the roster. None of these names jump out.
Uh so tells me it's gonna be a breakout year
for Virginia Tech. I'll go over as well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
That schedules easy, man, if they if they just win
the games they're supposed to, they could easily win ten games.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I mean they don't they bring back their quarterback, their
top rusher, and their top receiver, their leader in sacks,
their leader in tackles, and their leader in interceptions. I mean,
I don't even know what twenty two starters.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
It is hard to find four losses on that schedule.
Virginia Tech. That may be a sleeper that you may
not be thinking about, that could be a playoff contender,
just sheerly based on their schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
They won their bowl game too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Finally, wake Forest.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Dave Clawson has been there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
It's been there for a while. Everybody to know, everybody
speak up at once.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
What's the Billy's Billy's knowledge has gotten shorter and shorter.
He's now just saying the names of the coaching coaches names.
He's like, it's been a long podcast. I understand. All right,
four and a half, they're gonna meet up North Carolina
A and T. They'll beat Louisiana, they'll beat Yukon, they'll
beat cal that's four. Can I find a fifth win? No?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
I have him losing the cow under.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
That a top five offense three years ago, and since
they haven't been inside the top one hundred now, they're
just going the wrong way. Under Dave Clawson, I'm going
under two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
All right, wake Forest has. If you've ever been to
wins Salem, no, you know what? Do you know why
his name? Winston Salem? No, you don't know. No, was
there a guy cigarettes? Think about it? Winston Cigarettes. Yeah,
Salem cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
They're just making SIGs back in there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
That was like the that was the America's biggest producer
of cigarettes in the in the whole country was well,
I mean the tobacco was in Virginia and Kentucky, but
the actual manufacturing was in Winston Salem. You know what,
even when I went to law school in the early
two thousands, when you drove through there, it smelled like cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I was gonna say, and I'm not even kidding about that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
It really did. It doesn't anymore, but it did back then.
It was so big.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
They had the NASCAR Winston Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
All right, those cigarettes, So can I get an ashtray
at the waffle house there, or am I gonna have
to do?

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
You smoke a lot?

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
No? No, But I was in Salem, Indiana, and they
gave me an ash tray at a waffle house.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Excuse me for not for certain knowing that connection about
who gave you an ashtray. However, many years ago that
was I wouldn't have I was saying about this in Europe,
where a lot of people smoke, like a lot of
people smoking, I was. It is amazing to what extent
the United States has eradicated smoking in a very short

(01:20:21):
period of time. When people tell you that like the
government can't do something, they can if they want to.
Because smoking, when I was in college, everybody smoked, like
everybody you know, you'd walk And it was when I
was when I first got to college, you could smoke
in the door. Now by the time I got out

(01:20:42):
of college, they made you go outside, but everybody stood
outside and smoked. But my first year people were smoking
in the dorm, which is crazy. They used to smoke
on airplanes, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
He still occasionally see a little ashtray.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Yeah, I mean like it's it's wild. And the fact
that Now. I know young, younger people vape, but when's
the last time you've seen like a college student. I mean,
we had a smoking area at my high school, like
students to go smoke in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I still think it's crazy. We'd walk in a restaurant
and they'd say smoking or not, and you would just
be feet away from the people smoking, and that was
supposed to make a difference. Yeah, I can see them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
It wouldn't even be a barrier. It was like it's
like the table the next.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Table over, or on an airplane too, right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I just said that a minute ago. Yes, So the
how much that has changed so quickly is really amazing
because in Europe people still smoke, not like they do
used to here twenty five years ago, but they do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Yeah, as you said, I think Americans replaced it with vaping,
because that is everywhere were they vaping in Europe.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Less vaping, more smoking.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I was at a restaurant recently and the person take
care of me would lean down to vape like I
couldn't see her, and then would just blow the biggest
cloud up in the airs like that. You're not high
as well as you think you are.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Yeah, but still though I mean, vaping's not as bad
for you as cigarettes is it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Don't think it's not good for you, shouldn't do it,
but it certainly doesn't disturb as many people around you.
It's as a little more inconspicuous.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
But like, it is crazy to me to think about
what's what it used to be like in America. I mean,
my grandfather, rest his soul, would just like blow the
smoke in my eye, you know, good luck. And now
when I walk into a place where people smoke, what's
the last place you've walked into that has a smell
of smoke? Even houses, don't that waffle house? And which

(01:22:37):
makes us go full circle real quick. Since there will
be at least one team from the playoff, one team
in the playoff that's not in a power conference? Who
is your pick for team in the playoff that is
not in the power conference? Since I'm throwing this on you, Drew,
I'll give mine for me. The team that's going to

(01:22:58):
get in is Apple latch in state. Appalachian State will
play Liberty at the end of the year and they
will play each other. I think it's the last game
of the year in the Sun Belt and they will
or no, they don't play them in the Sunbelt. Liberty
is not in the sun Belt never mind, but Apple, Yeah,
they play them September twenty eighth. The winner of that

(01:23:21):
game is going to go to the playoffs. Appalachian State
is going to be eleven. They play at Clemson, but
they won't get punished for that game. As a matter
of fact, they'll actually probably get credit for that game
because it will improve their schedule. They're going to go
undefeated in the in the in the Conference. They play
Liberty in boone, a home field. Liberty won't make it anyway,

(01:23:47):
because they got beat so bad by Oregon last year
that even if they were twelve and Nino oh, they're
not putting them in that game again. So, Drew, my
pick is that Appalachian State in the sun Belt will
be the team to go to the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I'm gonna go Tulane.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Okay, good pick. I think that's the Honestly, I think
those are the two most likely teams.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
I don't even know their schedule, I don't know their odds.
I'm just a big fan of John Sumrall taking over
and what he did at Troy, and I think he's
gonna have them playing well, I mean, here's the only
problem forne Here's the only problem for Tulane.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
They play Kansas State and Oklahoma, and I feel like
they gotta win one of those to get in, and
I don't think they will. I think it's gonna be
hard for a ten and two team to go because
I think somebody will be undefeated or have one loss.
I think that's gonna make it hard. If you like Tulane, though,
let me give you the underrated billy game of the
year in college football that you probably don't think about. Okay,

(01:24:46):
please Tulane and Memphis play the last game of the year.
Memphis has a good chance to be they play at
Florida State. They'll lose that game, but they have a
chance to be eleven or ten and one going into
that tou Lane. That Tulane game against Memphis last game
of the season. It's already scheduled on a Thursday night

(01:25:07):
on Thanksgiving on ESPN on Thanksgiving. Okay, I think they're
putting it on Thanksgiving because they believe there'll be a
chance that that might be the who's going to the
playoff Tulane or Memphis game. That's one to watch because
I think Memphis is really good. So if you're looking
at the contenders, I think Tulane, Memphis, and Appalachian State
are the best contenders.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Well, I mean I just kind of just pulled that
off my brain. Didn't even know their schedule. But go
Green Wave.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
I believe we try to act like we don't know
what we're talking about, but I actually on this because
I think it's interesting that there's gonna be a random team.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Go James Madison could be in the conversation again even
though they changed coaches.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Could be Well, thank you all very much. We appreciate
Please tell your friends, uh, subscribe to podcast. It's nice
to have you. If you had a chance and you're
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comment if they can come and say, of all the
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Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
That would be the one to see you all way.

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