"The David Tyree Story" - with Paul Allen and David Tyree

Episode Transcript

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Here's the host of Faith and Goal, the voice of the Minnesota Vikings,
Paul Allen. Hey there, thanksfor subscribing, downloading, listening, following,
and believing. We have a superguest on Faith and Goal today,
somebody who made a super special,heady play in a little football game known

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as the Super Bowl, and onethat hundreds of thousands forever will remember.
Some of the most memorable Super Bowlplays in the history of the game,
for me include Scott Norwood's game winningfield goal miss against the Giants in nineteen
ninety. Rams linebacker Mike Jones catchingTitans receiver Kevin Dyson in the shadow of

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the goal line to win a SuperBowl. The Patriots coming back from twenty
five down in the second half towin Super Bowl fifty one. Who can
forget New England corner Malcolm Butler jumpingthe route to pick Russell Wilson at the
goal line to beat the Seattle Seahawks. Oh and of course Donovan McNabb so

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nervous nearing the end of a SuperBowl he threw up in the huddle,
and of course the Patriots prevailed.The New England Patriots are synonymous with Super
Bowl immortality. Shoot on the lastfaith and goal. We chadded with stud
special teamer Matthew Slater who has threerings and all with the red, white

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and blue a football immortality. Butthere have been Super games though the Patriots
have been left red, white,black and blue in the face black and
blue like forty two. As inSuper Bowl forty two when the undef he
did Favorites, the Patriots couldn't close, in part because of this gallant grab

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from the arm of Eli Manning.Word out in five the Giants from their
forty four yard line. Man worksout of the shotgun. He takes it
facing pressure. He's in trouble,He's spun around, He's able to get
away, looks to flow, hedoes down field and he catches Fadett.

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At the twenty five WAA play,David Tyree comes up with the ball WAA
play by Eli Manning. It wasa tremendous play by Eli Manning as he
got out of the grasp of theNew England Patriots. I thought Mike Carry
was going to blow the whistle,but he didn't. But what a play
by Tyree is. He goes upover Rodney Harrison, it comes down with
the ball. It's going to bea first down time out with the New

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York Giants. David Tyree the helmetcatch, big, big Super Bowl win
by the New York Football Giants,And in that game, a little known
wide receiver David Tyree, caught hisfirst touchdown in more than a year to
give the Giants the lead. Thenthat desperation helmet peace with about a minute

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to play, save the game forDavid's Giants. It involved, and indeed
was, a David slaying a differentform of a giant now here on earth.
That singular play defines the now retiredDavid Tyree. But as you will
hear April twentieth and Grace Church inEden Prairie with a rise with the guys,

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That's not where David's identity is rooted. It's in his belief in the
totality of the biblical story of Jesusof Nazareth that would include the hundreds of
Old Testament prophecies clearly to this Christianforeshadowing the coming of the one and only
true Messiah in Jesus Christ, themiracles, the teachings, the beating,

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the death, the return, andthat the only way to God is through
his son Firse Chapter two verse twentythree, written by John, a disciple
who walked with Christ in the latterstages of his life and inspired by the
Holy Spirit, he wrote this,no one who denies the Son has the
Father, whoever acknowledges the son hasthe Father. Also quite poignant telling and

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imperative. A man named Luke,who was a physician by trade and like
John, wrote one of the fourGospels of Jesus. Christ wrote in the
Acts of the Apostles, Chapter four, verse twelve, and there is salvation
in no one else, For thereis no other name under Heaven given among
men by which we must be saved. In writing about Jesus Christ and all

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God's people, said a man savedas in sins, forgiven, in salvation
as in heaven for eternity after wedie. David Tyree purely and wholeheartedly believes
in all of that, and sodo I. Heads up and boom,

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Faith and gold starts. Now faithand gold. Good to meet you,
and thanks for helping not only withfaith and gold, David, but arise
with the guys. April twentieth herein Minnesota. More on that coming up
a little later. You're you're you'regonna be on stage with Matthew Slater,
C J. Ham and among others, Tony Dungee. That's a that's pretty

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cool, isn't it. And asa rockstar lineup man, and you know,
obviously from coach Tony Dungee holding thehighest regard as his legacy to sees
him. But even Matthew Slater,who I think is finally overcome Steve Caster
for the greatest special tree of alltime. It's pretty awesome, no doubt.
Now there are many things we wechat about. I mean, there

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are sports themes, there are obviouslygospel centric themes and things like that.
And quite a large crowd agree GraceChurch in Eden Prairie Arise with the guys
dot com. People should look intoit if they get the opportunity. Let
me start here, David, whywhy do you choose to believe the Bible?
Oh my goodness, it's the thepirnwords God. It's a it's a

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it's a really a spiritual, asupernatural book when you consider the sixty six
books, the host of authors,the consistency, and ultimately it's the revelation
of God's son. It's God's revealingus himself his character that gives us the
safeguard and I was not grown Ididn't grow up in a religious background.

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But to have the opportunity to encounterChrist and then have the experience of firm
through the Scriptures, through the Wordof God has been life giving and life
changing and just it's the person ofJesus that has validated the scriptures in my
life and my heart. Yeah,that's a beautiful response. I don't know
if familiar with one of my favoritepastors that I follow and watch a lot

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on YouTube. His name is VodiBacham And yeah, yeah, isn't he
great? I mean, so thenyou've seen this, but in case the
audience has missed it, when voteBacham and I've shared this before. Faith
and Goal was pressed on why hebelieves the Bible. You know, he
started out by saying, like,hey, you know, it's not because
of tradition, it's not because ofall I've ever whatever, it's I choose

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to believe the Bible because it's areliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses
during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses reportingsupernatural events that took place in fulfillment of
specific prophecies, and claim their writingsare divine and not of human origin.
I mean whenever he said that thatmight have been the origin of Mike Drop.

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But like I read that, David, and I'm like, and all
God's people said, Amen, thatwas so beautifully put. Man right,
I'm telling yeah, he's one ofmy favorite. He's been a killer.
I've been. I've been avoid Christophertwenty years this past March fourteenth. So's

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he's been one of those foundational leadersin the body that has been steady,
firm and extremely credible. Some loveit. Yeah, And the end the
teachers God puts in your life,you know, whether it's a mom and
dad, a grandparent, a friend, or whatever, it's just amazing along
a journey. Like I didn't startreading the Bible until five years ago and

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now a I can't get enough ofit. But be like with YouTube,
whether it's Vodie Bacham, John MacArthur, Paul Washer or so on, Michael
Heiser, God Rest his soul,Tim Keller, the author, it's it's
the teachers God puts in your lifeso important when it comes to truly shaping
who a person is. Right,Oh, I can't agree more. You

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know, I take the way theway Paul you know, Paul had this
wonderful illustration when he's talking to Timothy. Obviously it was a unique, unique
relationship that those early leaders had inthe church. But he said, follow
my doctor, and mean like eventhis Bible comes together all the two but
still revealing the same God. Andthere's this spiritual element in this supernatural element,

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but there's also this litereral, historicaland an allegorical element where truth is
now synergized that actually intimately reveals aliving God to us today. So it's
not just he's the same guy today, yesterday, and forever more. But
at the same time, this booktestifies of him in a way where I

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can still relate to the Jesus encounterbe at two thousand and four. Two
thousand and four. Yeah, Ilove that. And you know, with
I think it's two Timothy and theapostle Paul, who wrote the most books
in the Bible. Timothy was hisdog likewise tight and tight. It's like
right hand, left, left headman, And you know, Paul's about
ready to get his head cut offafter his second prison term. And it

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makes my chin quiver. Man.You know, every time I read this
passage and really taking the context I'mgoing to paraphrase here, but I'm gonna
get close enough. It's it's whenPaul, right before his death, is
being like my drink is poured out. There's a metaphor like like what my
journey is complete in serving Christ?And He's like, I ran the race,
I thought the fight, I keptthe faith. I mean that that's

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so beautiful, isn't it? Ohman? I mean it's kind of the
bars that I've been on since I'vebeen awaking to the reality of who God
is and his goodness. And justas a sun I tell people, it
has to start with just being anadopted son of God coming into that life
and allowing God himself and allowing theword of God to share that native bring

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us into a living community that canshape us, load us. And like
I said, I think the relationshipsare the living community. And then we
have these teachers and leaders at differentjunctures that begin to really, you know,
really fine tune us and chid ofus. And that's that's the life
pursuit. Now, next thing,you know, you have purpose and you
have peace. I think that's whatevery man is looking for in the earth.

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It's a peace in a way wherenow you're running a race. Now,
you're living life with intent. Nowevery day, every day is meaningful
and beautiful and you can find beautyeven in the suffering. Uh well,
I better get back to these notesbecause I can tell it's just a couple
of brothers getting together who can talkabout this for like five straight hours and
I got like this this NCAA tournamentthing. My bosses are all over me

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for right now, and I gotlike seven mores. So let's get back
to it. Because like when whenyou mentioned just waiting for the day,
you know, it's like for theatheist, they die with no hope.
For the Christian, they die withnothing but hope. I mean, and
you're like one of the only peopleI can share this with. It's like
there are times I look up intothe sky and I'm like, just show
me one horse. I don't need, I don't need to see it,

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and I'm not going to tell anybody, I promise, but can I just
see like one, like a hooffrom one And then I'm like, all
right, you know what I mean? Those are the real secret conversations that
through through sons of God have withtheir father. Jennifer, and your your
face is illuminating probably in New Jerseyor whatever. And I can feel it

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all the way here in the cornfields, all right, the famous catch against
the Patriots. And in what wayshas the empowering position God put you in
with that famous moment open doors andstrengthen your faith and belief in the story
of Jesus, oh Man and everyway. You know, I did it

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a chance to chronicle a lot ofthat journey in my book, more than
just to catch. I don't evenknow if it's on line, but it's
an awful testimony of god faithfulness.And you know, like there was a
prophecy literally the night before the SuperBowl where my teammate's mom, who I
got acquainted with, she said,David, hot's quickly your feet, giving
you the hind speed of a deerto jump high. And she said,

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the Lord's putting the spiritual glue onyour hands. And the last thing she
said is God is going to giveyou the big place now. The amazing
thing about believing these words and walkingin them. And then she said,
I want you when you walk onthe field tomorrow, she said, I
want you to command the earth toyield, to increase, which is biblical
scriptural language, and it was anopportunity for me to believe God that he

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was going to do something great,not knowing what that great thing was,
but I knew I had a plaguethat was bowled up in favor of me.
And I scored a go ahead touchdownin the fourth quarter, So by
the time to get around to thehelp that I had already believed that God
had hit the miracle. And itsays that God takes the load things in
the world to put the shame thewise, and that's me. You know,
I'm a special teams player. I'ma content happy if I can,

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and I say content, I alwayshad the desire to basically be valued,
be appreciated. I knew that Iwas more than just a special teams player,
but you know what it was goingto take to prove at How could
God do that? And that's reallywhat the helmet catch was. It was
a memorial of validation for the kidwho couldn't find it through his journey as

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a as a you know, asa D one athlete, as a guy
who was once a third wide receiverin my third year, but they took
it away, So yeah, itwas it was. It was an amazing
moment where he allowed his kingdom tocome. That was the recipient of his
grace and his love and gave mea platform, opportunities and ultimately incredible voice
of influence. Right because for me, it's more about influence than it is

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about saying and I just have neverreally bought into those ideas. So it's
it's it's a gift that keys don'tgiving up, and I just try to
scirt it as a gift from God. Well, I love you for that.
Now, you you may be inadvertentlyor maybe purposely. If it's purposely's
beautiful. It's you. Referenced theBook of Habakik in the Old Testament,
chapter three, verse nineteen. Andthe reason I know that quick twitch is

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because like like when I speak atchurches and stuff like that. Well,
Habakic is a short three chapter bookwhich is good for twenty twenty four.
And it starts with one of God'sprofits like Jonah being like, what's up?
My will says no, I'm notgoing here, in fact mocks him.
Chapter two, God's like, Hubach, here's the deal, man,
Sit down, take the tablet andstart writing what I'm telling you, because

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what's going to happen to Babylon isgoing to be hundreds of years down the
road and you you won't even behere. And then the third chapter he's
singing and believing and apologizing and justloving and at the end of it off
what you just said, David.The Book of Habacic, chapter three,
verse nineteen, The Sovereign Lord ismy strength. He makes my feet like

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the feet of a deer. Heenables me to tread on the heights.
I mean, that's just so beautifulhow you laid that out. And now,
well, David, you mentioned youknow the special team's part, and
you're you're one of the best inthe history of the NFL. And and
Matthew Slater did the last faith andgoal with me. So let me ask
you this out of Syracuse. Didyou did you want to be a full

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time like bookending wide receiver with amoni tumor, playing all the red and
the snaps, But eventually you hadto realize the best for the New York
Giants and the team was to becomea special teams demon Is that how it
went? Well? You know what, there was no other avenue to the
NFL, meaning like my goal wasto be the best football player was never

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about everybody has a natural position,how do you make an impact on the
team. And my experience at Syracuseis that I wasn't the secondiest, I
wasn't the fastest, I was notquick twitch, But I wasn't going to
allow the discouragement and the journey toyou know, to discourage me from having
an impact. So guess what,I'm just gonna run down on kickoff,

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blow somebody up to find a wayto make an impact, and eventually he's
going to get the attention of thesepeople who don't believe that I'm good enough
to do more on the team.So my mentally was always about being the
best football player. Wherever you lieme up, I'll get the job done.
And really, at twenty one yearsold, I have a son,
and that was the first time Iever considered the NFL because I never felt

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successful enough at the college level,and just the drive to be a father
and provide the best for my littleguy here is really what gave me a
vision. And I just really say, you know what, I'm just going
to lean in every time I takethe field. I'm going to get it.
But I know that I can offermore as a receiver. I could
see Amani Tumor in Plexico Bird.These guys are imensely talented. I'm not

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that, but I'm good enough toplay at this league and contribute. And
so my goal was to be athird wide receiver and the best special teams
player every time I stepped on thefield. And you know, I did
it my third year. I wantthe position, but they still kind of
played the political game with me,and it was it was discouraging, but
so that was my goal. Mygoal was to be the best player period,

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to make an impact, to bea contributor. So I've always said
self awareness was my superpower as anNFL athlete, and that's what got me
the opportunity. That's what allowed meto have staying power, and ultimately that
gave me enough staying power to makean impact where I could be remembered as
part of the game. And youknow, and Matthew Slater, you know
out of U. C. LA and his father's Jackie. I mean

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you see his offensive tackle immortality.So so football is in the blood there.
But you know, Matthew and Italked about that, and it's awesome
the way you laid it out.David it's it truly is a thy not
I approach to life, whether youlike it or not, and there are
lessons to be learned from accepting whatpeople deem a lesser role special teams.

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So but but but you, Okay, maybe you don't have a choice,
but it's it's it's so the villagecan thrive. I mean, it's a
wonderful life metaphor. The Bible teachesthat we all should live thy not I
with that approach, right, yes, yes, it has literally bit my
mentality. So it's an extremely selflessapproach. I'm willing to invest in what

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the majority of people see as alesser or a lesser role, a lesser
experience, and that that for me, I said, that's my gift,
that's my story. I saw avalue where other people saw the motion.
And I think, like from fromthe realm of God, it's kind of
like I'd rather be a door keeperin the house and more than to dwell

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in the sense of the wikis right, Like, I'd rather just be in
position to be a be in positionto make an impact and have meaning and
contribution versus hey, try to callmy own shot. Doesn't meaning that I'll
never be you know, but Ithink I still think we have a God
that considers that there are lots andportions and gifts and talents, and if

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we can treasure our role, thenthen he can be glorified to the greatest
success. But and the big correctBut I mean as the Bible teaches.
But the beauty of it also isis like you know, whether you're whether
you're out of Syracuse playing for theOrange and getting into the NFL, tripping
that you're not getting a wide receivershot slater out of out of uh U
c l A tripping, you know, like, hey, didn't you know,

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don't you know who my dad is? And it's all going to get
better. And here's what I didat U c l A. And I'm
shoot you correct me if I'm wronghere, man, But like you block
six punts in Syracuse, right?I did? I did? Actually seven?
It didn't they didn't record it.The fashion tackle that yeah, And
like I said, CJ Ham,who's still with the Vikings, love CJ.
You know he he he was ahe was a running back. He

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was a tailback at August Dana nota D one school. But you know
CJ can play some running back andyou know, but you guys all had
to make a decision that God alreadyknew for you, man, that you
make that decision. And a littleless than a decade later, he knows
what's going to happen on the helmet. He knows it's going to be Rodney

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Harrison trying to decapitate you. Heknows it's going to test your humility.
He knows it's going to change yourlife. But we don't know things like
that, which further makes the Bibleso fascinating. It does. And like
I said, when I considered this, this journey, this opportunity to even
believe God be in position, thesupernatural moments where you know there's and the

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destiny involved. And I've never beeninto the winds and losses. I just
know that God has a narrative increation, and he'll choose whatever space to
glorify his name. He'll choose whatevervessel to glorify his name, however he
chooses, and he does so choosethis little David to take down, you
know, to take down the Goliath, the low things, even that Eli

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Manning at the time was not thisesteemed player. So it's a beautiful narrative
of God. Loves his ability tointrude and take up space and take up
dominion where his son can be revealed. And like I said, just to
me, that's why I've always triedto steward it with with a tremendous amount
of humility. But at the sametime, man, like, wow,

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God, you did it. Wehave the best catch ever. I don't
care what anybody says. Men,we have the best catch ever. And
I'm going to confuere to sing yourphrase and the rest of my life and
and off that. At David Tyreedot com David Tyree com, it has
written he David has a zealous passionin serving others and sharing the importance of

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remaining steadfast in the ways of JesusChrist. So, David, why why
is it important to you, notfor you, but that people remain steadfast
in the ways of the Gospels ofJesus Christ. Well, I have this
simple, you know, simple reality. We were created by God for God
for his pleasure. Man was createdby God for God and for his pleasure.

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The pleasure part is where it isreally dicey, because that means there's
a sovereign element where we can't control. And most people who who who who
can't understand or perceive certain things,it's difficult for them to rest in His
sovereignty. And for me, Ithink my service as a child of God
has been about man. Every childof God has a purpose and even a

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ministry. He says he gave usthe ministry of reconciliation. I wanted to
be a part. I never wantedto remove myself just because I had a
platform. I never I wanted todo the dirty work. I wanted to
right back in the churnches and bea part of that special team and win
a soul, make a disciple,preach the gospel. And so that part
is where I really brought into asa son of God, knowing I have

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tremendous influence, but I can't separatemyself and try to create something unique that
every single believer, meaning that connectivetissue being the great commission He left us
here. He loves us so much, he saved us, but he loves
everyone else so much that he leftthese witnesses here, you and I that
we can testify about his son andgive us the word of God to guide

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us and lead us in all truthsand all God's people said Amen. With
that now with David Tyree, theDavid Tyree journey, just the totality of
it. What you know, maybefrom your youth or your teenage years or
whatever before you became helmet catch guy, and you were a high school star
and at Syracuse. You know,granted they probably didn't pass a ton,

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but you know you're out there blockingponds, getting five hundred receiving yards,
stuff, tearing up bot tech stufflike that. All right, But as
the journey goes, David, whatwhat have been some of the most significant
obstacles you have had to overcome inyour life? Like positions God permitted you
to enter for whatever the reason,all the while knowing he'd changed your life

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dramatically and for the better. Februarythird of two thousand and eight. Yeah,
it's actually been everything. My testimonyafter the helmet catch is far more
riching. And I just haven't sought, you know, I really desired God.
Some of the helmet catchers left myeyes. When I came home from
Arizona. I offered I s andLord all I wanted more of you and

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quickly sent me into the wilderness witha spontaneous injury almost out of nowhere.
After the greatest victory of my professionalcareer, which basically led to the exit
shortly thereafter years later. And Ithink that, you know, it was,
you know, and on my thirtiethbirthday, I had an encounter with
God and the summary of it wasvery simple. At the end of it,

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I spoke to me as I wasvery jealous to hear his voice intimately,
and and he said to me,he says, see, David,
all power belongs to me. Andhe says, but you can fellowship with
me and my suffering. And itreminded me of what Paul says, that
I might know him in the powerof his resurrection and the fellowship of suffering.

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And after that two year post Helmetcatch, you know, that was
on my thirtieth birthday, literally asI was finished my last season with the
Ravens, I had gotten to intimatelyknow Christ in a way that I never
could have known with going from mountaintopto mountaintop. It was remaining and abiding
in that place. And I thinkthe greatest difficulty that I've experienced in my

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pursuit is, you know, it'sreally been My greatest losses have come with
being yoked to the wrong people,right, I mean, like it's like,
Man, I lost financially because Ididn't have the due diligence or the
shrewdness to ask my financial advisor allthe right questions at twenty seven years old.

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He just you know, like,because at the end of the day,
you have to have a team that'shelping you to make the best decisions.
Right, They had lost money there, And it's not just financial loss.
It's like, you know, youknow, you get involved in the
business and you know you think you'redoing you think you're better at it.
Due diligence. Ah, Man,this guy, some of his ego just
cost me. And you know,I've had my fair share of persecutions just

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because people. They don't detest me, they detest Christ and I'm going to
be bold as a lion. Sothose are disappointments. Some of those are
losses and lessons. And I thinkthe whole thing is, Lord, what
do you want? I want toI want to conform to your image,
because if I knew you perfectly,I'd be better at this, right,
Like, if I knew your waysbetter, I'd be better at this where

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you know, maybe I didn't haveto learn that lesson that way. Maybe
you know, and I think theselessons have been so peculiar and the losses
have been so peculiar, because man, if you have a high accountability or
ownership disposition, then the heart canbe perfected. You know. Everything wasn't
malice. It was just like,man, this guy's imperfectionate ego just caused

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me to lose something. So Ithink those have been some of the more
immediate ways that I can summarize it, and I look forward to sharing more
of that story and kind of getback out there. You know, and
I have seven children, we've homeschool for fifteen years. There's a lot
of wealth and wisdom, and ofcourse being active in ministry in the entire
time. Hey, a couple offootball related things because you're David Tyree,

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and man, I have reverence forthe moment and now learning more about you,
I want to chat with you forlike six hours. So if you
see that six one two number ofbouncing in at six, seven, eight,
nine and ten, it's me justdon't take it. I'll get past
it, okay. But I onthe on that catch you know that you
made in the Super Bowl, Imean, I still can't believe Eli was
able to shake all those Patriots onhim and even more amazing David specifically the

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way football goes now that the officialsdidn't ruin the moment by whistling the plane
dead. You know what I mean. I'm telling you, Well, that's
why I tell people I think theNFL and there the season ranked as the
number three play of all time.I have a great affinity for number three,
so I was okay with that.But I do believe it's the best
player in NFL history because of thosefactors, because of the how close it

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could have been to being blown dead, because Eli Manning was Vanilla Vick and
I mean, like, come on, man, the guy you could blow
on him back in the day andhe would fall down. And you know,
he was most he was the toughest, but he was the most physically
a loose quarterback. There was likethree hcles in one play. I'm the
black guy who can't jump. Imean, like, it's everything in a

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romance. And then you have anundefeated team literally is one of the best
teams, only best team of alltime that didn't win the Super Bowl,
right, Like, so I justthink it's the best play ever in it's
well, I mean, it's yeah, take it a step farther, if
you want to go down that road. We have a guy who was given

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the name at birth David, who, like like a certain David from biblical
times, has sinned during his life, maybe some significant sins. And I
don't know if God has ever saidabout you in First Samuel like he did
David. Uh that that layoff thisguy. He's he's a he's a person
straight from my heart, you know. But there's so many in your name,
David. You know, for maybea separate podcast or conversation that there

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are just so many deeply rooted UHteachings in that name about getting to heaven
and sin and things like that.But this was this was David Tyree,
David Slain, a different form ofgiant and undefeated Patriots team with Brady and
Moss. Are you kidding me?And it sure was? And and and

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it's like, obviously we know howDavid his boldness. You know, who's
gonna allow this unclean fustein? AndI'm not going to take it that far.
But when you know, I thinkeverybody understands the history of you know,
the Boston the Boston market, andand they should have great pride in
their teams. You know that they'reamazing, but that grew a little bit
of an air of arrogance around thatteam, And like I said, it

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just takes It's God's way of insome ways the throning these crazy stadistic forms
of idolatry or obsessive idolatry in oursports culture. And you know, I
definitely considered those things. But whatdoes it amount to wins and losses?
No, it's just God has ahigher agenda in relation to bringing all these

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things together, the humiliation that takeplace in that time, the reflection right,
opportunities to change in transformation. Soyeah, it's a lot that that
that we were privileged to just rideon the winds of God's great well.
David as in David Tyree our gueston Faith and Goll, Matthew Slater,
CJ. Ham, Tony Dungee,Rich Gann and Me and so. On

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April twentieth Grace Church in Eden Prairie, it's the annual Arise with the Guys
event learn more and get tickets atand bring the boys, bring friends and
family members so they can hear abunch of different stories from eloquent people like
David Tyree. It is a risewithguysdot com. A risewith guys dot com.

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David, love you very much,man, And we've only known each
other for twenty three minutes and aboutthree text messages, but I feel comfortable
to a fellow brother saying I loveyou and I can't wait to meet you.
April twentieth here in Minnesota. Okay, man, I'm so excited and
con see you to glorify guys.Let's catch it up. God bless you,
David, have a good day.I appreciate you. That's David Tyree.

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David Tyree, he of the helmetcatch variety, one of the most
famous plays in the history of theNational Football League. April twentieth, Eden
Prairie. It's a Pioneer Trail andEden Prairie Road for Grace Church, Pioneer
Trail right off one sixty nine.And this will be my third year to

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rise with the guys. Very powerfulevent, very beautiful stage. Those at
Grace Church, Bob Kauughlin, BettyMilk or excuse me, Becky Milk,
and so many wonderful people I've gottento know over the years do awesome,
awesome work organizing this. We havean Uncommon Award Winner dinner the evening before,
and you know, just a lotof luminaries come into town. Kevin

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Warren the president of the Chicago Bears. He was the Uncommon Award winner last
year. That's how I met Bearscoach Matt Eberflus. Always great to see
HIMVP rich Gannon who lives elsewhere now, but he comes back for this and
we would love to see you there. April twentieth, Grace Church and Eden
Prairie. It is the annual Arisewith the guys learn more and to get

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tick gets at a risewitheguys dot com. It goes like nine in the morning
until eleven in the morning. It'sjust a couple of hours like starts at
nine am. Slater Am Tyree,Dungee and so many more that you'll recognize.
It's an honor to be on stagewith these men. We thank Eric
nord Quist for producing Faith and Goaland we ask that you keep those palms

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to the sky. And I'm PaulAllen. Thank you very much for listening,
and may God bless