Unity and Arise with the Guys - feat Jason Romano with Paul Allen

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Faith and gold. Here's the hostof faith and goal. The voice of
the Minnesota Vikings, Paul Allen theimportance for Christians to be like minded and
in unity, not only with eachother, but most importantly, Christ is

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vital. Like birds of a featherflock together, and so do pigs and
swine. That's one way to putit. The word unity is sprinkled throughout
the Bible, and none more sothan in Paul's epistles of the New Testament,
Old Testament, New Testament, OldCovenant, New Covenant. No messiah
proclaimed and or revealed. Jesus ofNazareth is the Messiah and is proclaimed and

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revealed in the New Testament, andunity is found. The Look of Ephesians
was written to the Church of Ephesusby the apostle Paul as he was imprisoned
for proclaiming to Jews and non Jewsthe importance of recognizing Jesus Christ is the
Messiah about whom the prophets wrote.The first three chapters offer the theology of

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unity through Christ, imploring Jews andGentiles to recognize Jesus has brought you together
through a new humanity. Chapters onethrough three establish the foundation of unity and
harmony from a theological perspective. Then, starting in chapter four, Paul takes
that foundation and makes it practical forJews and Gentiles. Chapter six of Ephesians

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and verses ten to seventeen are knownas the Armor of God, and it
goes like this. Finally, bestrong in the Lord and in the strength
of His might, put on thewhole armor of God, that you may
be able to stay and against theschemes of the devil. For we do
not wrestle against flesh and blood,but against rulers, against the authorities,

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against the cosmic powers over this presentdarkness, against the spiritual forces of evil
in the heavenly places. Therefore,take up the whole armor of God,
that you may be able to withstandin the evil day. And having done
all to stand firm stand therefore,having fastened on the belt of Truth,

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and having put on the breastplate ofrighteousness, and as shoes for your feet,
having put on the readiness given bythe Gospel of Peace in all circumstances,
take up the shield of faith,with which you can extinguish all the
flaming darts of the evil one.And take the helmet of salvation and the

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sword of the Spirit, which isthe sword of God. This beautiful writing
is about unity and the theological foundationbeing built to teach Jews and non Jews
to live together in harmony, andteachings that still ring true to this day.
But why does Paul hit us withthe evil card? Why is he

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sharing about the devil? We willunpack that and learn about a wonderful event
of unity taking place Saturday at GraceChurch in Eden Prairie, Minnesota with our
friend Jason Romano of Sports Spectrum andFaith in Goal starts now Faith and Goal.

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Hey, Jason, great chatting withyou, and before we get to
a rise with the guys and theBook of Ephesians, chapter six, verses
ten to seventeen. I know you'vegotten to know Scotti Scheffler, the Masters
winner from the most recent weekend,and you know more about him than me.
What a humble superstar who attacks notonly golf but life with humility.

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Man, it is so refreshing tosee. I mean, we see it
a lot in other sports, rightI see it a lot in the NFL.
I see it a lot in MajorLeague Baseball. I don't know,
I know there's a lot of believersin golf, but you don't see it
a lot. Maybe it's just notpublicized or put out there, or you

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have a person who's dominated so unbelievablyon the you know, on the golf
course, and then suddenly has thisplatform to talk about it. But wow,
I mean just the identity factor ofunderstanding, Paul, that this man,
Scottie Shuffler, loves Jesus and thathis identity is not in what he
does, it's who God says heis. The victory is won. I

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was just so impressed. I reallywas impressed. He's amazing. And a
recent podcast that you did was witha Super Bowl winning quarterback, Trent Delfer.
Now you know Trent wins the SuperBowl after the two thousand season with
a Ravens team that you know,when when people are talking about great defenses
in the history of the NFL,the the go to references eighty five Bears.

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But right after that the two thousandRavens and and and for those who
haven't listened to it, uh,Trent Dilfer and a sports spectrum in that
podcast and his humility and just whohe is. What what did you like
about it? Yeah? It tookaway a lot from him. So I've
known Trent for years. Obviously,we both worked at ESPN together and knew

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each other very well for you know, almost a decade working together there,
and certainly I know about his playingcareer. And you know, those two
thousand Ravens are, like you said, right up there with the eighty five
Bears. What I really took awaywas a couple of things. First,
this is a guy who is nowa head football coach in college at the
Division IE level at UAB University ofAlabama, Birmingham. And to watch him

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kind of transition into coaching and wrestlewith the idea that God was calling him
into coaching, but understanding that thisis a call on his life. I
mean, he's in his early fiftiesnow, and he could have easily just
retired from ESPN, did some broadcastingand moved on. And now, at
fifty years old, he becomes aDivision one head football coach and coaches college

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football for the first time in hislife. So that was really fascinating to
kind of hear his journey and howhe really believes God ordered his steps and
with the nudging and help of hiswife to be able to go into this
coaching and now he sees it asa calling as a way to disciple and
minister and help grow and mentor youngmen eighteen to twenty two. It was

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fascinating to listen to but also himtalking about this stage of life of being
a father, being a grandfather,watching his kids get older and just enjoying
where God has him. And likehe said, it was really interesting.
He said, nothing has ever broughtme to my knees more with God than
coaching. And I thought that wasreally interesting about Okay, his prayer life.

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Maybe it was there before, it'sit's exponentially there now. So it
was fascinating. Well, this thisdeal for presentation, plus many more things
can be found at sports spectrum dotcom, Sports spectrum dot com or via
Twitter or the X machine at sportsUnderscore Spectrum and Jason Romano has a lot
to do with it. And ifyou recognize the voice, and maybe you're

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new to faith and goal, theJason is the the the guest we had
right after the Super Bowl because Iwas just so fascinated and happy and full
of joy that at the at theSuper Bowl, you know, between the
Chiefs and the Niners and the bigmedia day where you have player access.
You got like one hundred people byBrock perty And here's my guy, Jason

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walking up going So what what partof the Bible you read in these days?
What? What? What? What? What type of scripture are you
do these days? And whether it'sBrock Perdy, Christian McCaffrey, Drew Tranquill
and so on. To watch that, watch those players before the Super Bowl
talk about the Bible, talk aboutthe significance of the fact that we are
sheep and the Lord is our shepherd. And just to hear people set for

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that big game talk about it andJason triggering those questions, that's one of
the more beautiful things I've seen inquite some time. Yeah, that's that
voice. That's Jason Romano with SportsSpectrum. Now. Jason will be in
town from the East Coast this weekendfor a Rise with the Guys. It
is Saturday, April twentieth, startingat nine am Central at Grace Church.

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Arisewithguys dot com to learn more andget tickets, and tickets are inexpensive.
Tony Dungee, Tony Dungee, Hof, Matthew Slater, David Tyree, c
J. Ham. Those are goingto be some of the featured guests and
speakers sold. How would you describea rise with the guys, Jason,
and why should men consider getting ticketsto this event? Oh? I love

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that question, Paul, because it'sfirst of all, iron sharpens iron,
right, like we need to besharpening each other. We need to be
around other men, we need tobe vulnerable, we need to be always
in a posture of learning and insome ways surrender to God. And I
think going to a gathering like this, I mean, this will be the

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third straight year that I've been apart of it and been at it,
and this year have been a littlebit more behind the scenes with you and
others to help put this together.And I just see God doing an amazing
work. I mean last year whenI saw the gospel presented at the end
and I saw guys raise their handsand say, yes, I'm in on

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this, Like I've lived my lifefor myself and it's time to live my
life and surrender to God. Likethat's what happens, which is really fascinating
to me because it's just a bunchof football guys I'm going together talking about
how God's worked in their life,and yet that's what men need to hear.
They need to hear the testimonies ofpeople like Tony Dungee, people like

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Matthew Slater, who I've known foryears and is just I can't wait for
people to hear Matthew Slater's story.What a humble, humble person that guy
is. I know you've had himon your show. And David Tyree,
who you also had on your show, is just an amazing guy with an
incredible story and maybe the most famouscatch and Super Bowl history was made by
David Tyree. And then C J. Ham, who's just a legend and

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such a great dude and just anawesome guy with the vikings and also has
a posture of humility. It's justgoing to be a great time. I
mean, if you love sports andyou're thinking about, Okay, what's a
way that I can invite someone tocome and have fun. There's going to
be a lot of fun. Forsure, have fellowship, which they'll definitely
be, and you know there'll besome opportunities to see you and I as

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well. But really to go andhear these testimonies from these players and coaches,
Man, what a great way toinvite someone who might be curious and
then they come and they're going tohear some amazing stories and testimonies. I
can't recommend it more. And unlesssomething has changed here, at about eleven
AM, maybe eleven fifteen at GraceChurch in Eden Prairie, Jason is going

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to be doing that Sports Spectrum podcastand I'm going to be one of his
guests. So that's this Saturday,n nine to eleven in the morning at
Grace Church and Eden Prairie, hofTony Dungee, Matthew Slater, one of
the great, if not the greatestspecial teamers in the history of the NFL.
David Tyree, he of the helmetcatch variety, and CJ. Ham

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Augustana and Duluth Denfeld go crazy.C J. Ham of the Minnesota Vikings,
he'll be there. And I likethe specialist theme that we have this
year in that Slater, Tyree,and CJ. Ham all were or are
high end special teamers. But alongthe way, these Christians had to become

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comfortable with the NFL's version of thynot I. And what I mean is,
we know it's like they'd be thinking, we know you want to play
more offense, but for the team, the thy for the team you are
best suited to play special teams andthey acquiesce or they agree. What lessons

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Jason can we learn from that?Well, there's so many lessons. First
of all, the dying to yourselfis literally, in many ways, the
entire message that Jesus was trying toproclaim. Obviously he's trying to share that
you know, he is the Way, the Truth, and the Life,
and he is the Savior, andthat no one can come to the Father
except through him. But how manytimes can you look in the gospels and

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see Jesus talk about denying yourself pickingup your cross? Following me John the
Baptist saying he must increase talking aboutJesus. I must decrease like it's all
over scripture. And I think thebeautiful part of the testimonies of the stories
that we're going to hear is everysingle person, by the way, including

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hof Tony Dungee, are going totalk about how they've had to die to
self and had to give themselves upto Jesus and then give themselves up for
others. I mean, Jesus said, I think it's in Matthew twenty.
You know, I came not tobe served, But sirve right, and
give my life as a ransom formany. So when you're talking about thyself
versus giving yourself up, I meanJesus, even Jesus who could have easily

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said, listen, I came tothis earth. It's time for you guys
to serve me. No, hesaid, I came to this earth to
serve and give my style and givemyself as a ransom for many. Like
what a posture of the render thatwe can come to in understanding Jesus's example
to them. Take that into allthe different places that we touch every single

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day, including the football field.And now, Jason, I love how
you explained things and from the firstsecond and I met you, the breadth
and the the just the way youexplain things and make them simplistic, talking
about the Bible and relate from likelike what you said about Jesus, gain

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was earned by loss. And thenhow you take the practicality as we're going
to do here momentarily with this faithand goal and and you make it easy
to understand and so correct me ifI'm wrong here. But you know you
didn't go to seminary, right,I did not. I have a bachelor's
degree in Communications and Media and Iwent into college for this broadcasting thing,

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but never never took a seminary classof any sort. I have a brother
who has a PhD basically in Biblicalstudies, so I learned a lot from
him. But I am not thatguy. I mean we, I mean
that whole part of the conversation couldgo for two hours. But the reason
I brought it up is I didn'teven go to college, So you know,
I'm not theologically as most people wouldknow it. I didn't go to

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seminary. Likewise, for you,you didn't go to seminary. That should
give people hope about learning the Bibleand learning to unpack it and and and
you know, having having the theor gaining the trust and faith and reality
that the only way to heaven isthrough Jesus Christ. And like first John
says, without the son, youdon't have the father, and without the

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father, you don't have the son. You know that that's all we We
are self trained and self and andand we've learned it on our own,
and it's fascinating. It's the mostbeautiful thing that I've ever encountered in my
life. And I think I cansay that about you too safely that it's
just you don't mean interrupt here,but brother, get the people. Look
at the people who Jesus was wascalling to be his his voice. Were

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they theologically trained? Were they?Uh? You know, PhDs, no
offense to my brother, who Ilove and he's so smart. You know,
Paul the Apostle was killing Christians andyou know these guys were fishermen and
you know, text collectors and hadno idea. All they knew was that
they were with Jesus and that theyneeded to tell everybody about the hope that's

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found in Jesus. And in manyways, that's all we're trying to do
too. Yeah, And I givethanks to God frequently that he made the
lead pastor of my church, FaithFamily Church, Wes Feldner, one of
my very best friends. I givethanks that he made him my first teacher.
And then I give thanks that I'mflipping up and down Sirius satellite radio

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and I hear Billy Graham and that'slike my second teacher, you know,
having not read the Bible until fiveyears ago. And you know, I'm
sure you and many others have alot of stories like that. But like
I started Faith and Goal is thecompany you keep and your teachers are unbelievably
important. And that's what we justhit on as an aside, because football,
as much as any other sport,requires unity to succeed. Sacrifice knowing

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one has to help while like notgetting the ball or pushing through conflict all
and or off the field, keepingthy not I first and foremost? Do
you agree with that? With unityand football and anything you can add,
I do. Yeah, unity isso vital. I mean, it's it's

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funny. You were talking about Ephesianssix and I spent basically the month of
March just reading Ephesians, and Ikept going through. You know, Ephesians
two is a beautiful place to talkabout, you know, grace through faith
and how we're saved, and youknow what Jesus did and why we can't
earn our way into heaven. Butyou see throughout that that that beautiful verse

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of scripture about unity, and thenyou see what's happening at the time.
You see the division, you seeyou see what's going on. It's a
little glimpse into in many ways,what we're seeing today and how everybody is
so magnified by the division that's takingplace and who you root for and who
you're against and what you're for,and why the other person is terrible and

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this other person's better, and notjust in politics, but really in life.
But I see when that's why Ilove the church so much. And
I'm talking about the local church.When you go to a church on a
Sunday morning, in many ways,it's just people coming there from all different
blocks, all different places, toworship God, to worship Jesus, to

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hear a message, to fellowship together. It's unity. And that's what the
Body of Christ is about. Unityin the Body of Christ in some ways,
Paul, and you know this,like that's kind of what sports can
do. It's a little bit ofa glimpse into how much greater we can
be when we're unified together. Becausesports fans in Minnesota, when they go
watch a Vikings game or when they'reabout to go watch the Timberwolves play in

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the playoffs on Saturday, like,they're all unified. They don't care where
you're from, what you do,what your background is, even what you
believe. If you're a Timberwolves fanand they're a Timberwolves fan, well you're
blood and you're awesome and you're amazing. And h and everybody's collectively together.
That's what the Body of Christ issupposed to be. Like, like,
it doesn't matter if you understand allof the ancillary things or disagree on you

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know, you know, saved,once saved, always saved, versus you
know, colvinism and our mean likewho cares? Are we unified in the
Body of Christ? And do webelieve that Jesus is Savior? And can
we collectively come together? Yeah,to share this amazing message of hope and
love. And that's why I thinkunity is so important, and especially in

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the Body of Christ. I hateseeing vickering and disputes within the Body of
Christ. And obviously there's falts falseteachings that have to be called out,
but quite often it's not that it'sjust bickering. It's being done over small
things, and it's not how Christreally wants us to be. Uh if
he I'm really glad to hear that. About spending that time with Ephesians,

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you know, I've kind of brokeit down to the best of my ability
before we started chatting that chapters oneto three, the apostle Paul is laying
out the theological foundation to the Jewsand the Gentiles, and then from four
on the practicality in their lives andhow to live lives together via harmony and
unity. So chapter six, versesten to seventeen Ephesians. I read it

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already and guided by the Holy Spirit. The apostle Paul, who used to
be Saul wrote, wrote a beautifulpassage defining the Armor of God, and
that passage is very popular. Whatdo you like about it? And what
to you Jason in twenty twenty four. Indeed, as you just referenced,
is donning the Armor of God.It's really interesting, Paul, is I

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have not I have time in themorning where I spend time praying to God,
like I usually take a walk oryou know, I'll kind of pace
a little bit down in my basement, put on some instrumental music of worship
music, and just pray. Andit's been a kind of practice for me
in twenty twenty four that's been reallyencouraging and fruitful, and I believe it's
connected me to God in a deeperway. And not knowing what we were

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going to talk about, and youcan attest to this. I can show
people the email this morning for thefirst time, and I don't know how
long I actually prayed the Armor ofGod as protection on my life this morning,
and I don't know why. Ijust said, God, give me
the helmet of truth and the breastplateof righteousness and the shield of faith,
and I just prayed it then.And then you asked me this question and

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you send me an email, andI'm like, oh my gosh. I
just love when God kind of connectsthings in a beautiful way. I mean,
the Armor of God, Paul isso vital like in our lives because
it is a daily grind. Imean, how many people can think when
they go to church, where whenthey read their Bible or spend time in
prayer and they're like, that's awesome. I feel so good. And then
you go out and you're like,why did I say that again? And

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why didn't I treat that person well? And why did I, you know,
maybe act the way I shouldn't haveacted when I was driving my car,
or just ignore that person that wasasking a question or looking for help
because we don't put on the armorof God. That's what I believe it
is because there is an enemy thatis out there not only to steal,
kill and destroy, but to distractand to disturb us and to you know,

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keep us I think from thinking aboutwho God is. And the Armor
of God is just that to me. I love how he talks about a
shield of faith. I love howhe talks about this righteousness that we're supposed
to put on. I love itall. I mean, the helmet of
salvation. It is just it's notan actual helpt obviously, but it's a
reminder of, Hey, you've beensaved by grace through faith from the only

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one who can allow us access tothe Father. Carry that with you everywhere
you go. Don't just spend timewith God in the morning, read your
Bible, pray and then go outinto the world and act like you have
no idea who this Jesus is inyour life. And I think that's what
the Armor of God means to me. Paul is like, we're supposed to
be ready for battle, and battlein the way of battling against the spirits

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and the powers that are trying totear us down and take us away from
this relationship with God. I e. The devil, and he's trying to
get us distracted and kind of takeour eyes off of Christ and not to
see people the way Jesus sees them, but to see them in the way
that maybe the world wants to seethem. And that's why this Armor of

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God is so so important. Wow, And as those in many in the
pastoral game will say, that'll preachthe way you laid that out. And
what a segue there, man,I mean Versus. It's so beautiful how
you did that, because it's thefirst again, the first three chapters of
the Book of Ephesians is laying thetheological foundation to get to chapters four through

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six in the Armor of God tomake it practical in the lives of Jews
and Gentiles coming together, Jews andnon Jews. And it's super practical and
require fired for life now for allbut Christians in particular, even in twenty
twenty four. And you talk aboutthe evil side of it. That's that's
kind of what I led with beinglike, you know, Paul's laying out

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all this beautiful stuff of harmony andunity and what it leads to, and
it starts and stops with this,and then you get to the Armor of
God Versus eleven to thirteen, whereyou know, I'll just ask you,
like this, why do we thinkhe dropped in a preach about withstanding the
devil and cosmic and evil forces hinderingpeople then and likewise for us now,

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but for different reasons. I mean, it's everything was hunky dory and beautiful
and uplifting and then boomy just hityou with the powers of evil. Why
do you I believe it all comesback to the word unity. But what
do you think about that, mybrother? Yeah, it's unity for sure.
He wants us to be united inChrist. You know, he wants

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us to be and see. Theunity that the Bible talks about is I
think unity in the body of Christ. And so if you're not in the
body of Christ, it's going tobe hard to find unity. But it
doesn't mean you treat anybody different orwant to share the love of Christ to
obtain that unity. What he's talkingabout here is these I mean, look
at what it says in verse thirteen, take up the whole armor of God

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that you may be able to withstandin the evil day and having done all
two stands. So withstand we're talkingabout. You know, that's two thousand
years ago that that's being preached,but this is still very relevant to us
today. To be able to withstandwhat's coming at us and what comes at
us. Honestly, it starts withsimply our flesh. It starts with our

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flesh getting in the way and usbeing consumed with the world and all that
it happens and that it has tous. And so that's what I think
he's trying to get to is,Yeah, the spiritual battle that we face
is not just with you know,with oh my gosh, that person cut
me off on the highway. No, the spiritual battle is within the flesh

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that is born into sin. Youknow. That's what it talks about,
is we are born into sin.All have sinned and fall and short of
the glory of God. That's whywe need Christ. And the armor of
God is in essence Jesus coming intoour life. But we have to be
armed with that for battle every singleday and off that the way I wrote
it down to share with you,and I mean, in my opinion,
you nailed it. The last thingthe devil and cosmic powers of evil over

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present times for the Jews and Gentilesand present times for us now wants is
people donning donning the armor of God. That's the last thing the devil wants.
And I mean probably ruins his dayand all those small g gods enveloping
our world get throttled. That's whatthe Bible teaches small g gods. God

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obviously being the capital g God.The armor of God unifies all through Christ.
And that's what Jason just so eloquentlysit and you know, that's what's
Saturday at Grace Church and arise withthe guys. Aims to instill and provide
unity not only with the men inthe crowd and those on the stage,
but unity in Christ. Like Jasonjust said, men gathering and learning via

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messages of failure and success from MessrsDungeee, Slater, Tyree, Ham,
Alan, Romano and so on,and the importance of unity and harmony for
Christians and shared by those who onearth are deemed to be blessed. Matthew
Slater, you know, of course, of course he's more blessed than than

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the majority of the world, eventhough that's not accurate. Following me here,
he's a three time Super Bowl champion, David Tyree with the helmet catch.
Everybody remembers him. He's more blessedthan everybody else. No, he's
not. God put him in thatposition for a reason, even though he's
exactly the same in the eyes ofGod as everybody else in the world.
And that's, you know, becauseof their jobs and accomplishments, which which

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means nothing when it comes to gettingto heaven. I mean, for instance,
Paul and Philippians chapter three. Hesays, it writes, if you
had confidence, I had more withwhat he did as a pharisee when his
name was Saul. But all Ihave gained and or lost is garbage without
being found in Christ. I mean, that is one of the more powerful

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moments in the entire Bible, atleast for me, and into the equation
the armor of God is belief inJesus Christ and the harmony with Heaven we
have through him. But finally,because you've done this markedly longer than me,
and I know you've done I mean, Connecticut a bunch of sermons and
stuff, and you're really good atit, how does one share that message

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at an event like a rise withthe guys. Yeah, I think the
best way to do that is tobe transparent, to be vulnerable, and
to understand that you know, everybody'sin a different stage. You know,
you've been reading your Bible for fiveyears. I've been reading it for probably
ten or fifteen, and I'm fiftyyears old, so i'ven't been reading it
longer. And there's gonna be peoplethere, maybe like Tony Dungey, who've

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been reading it since they were fiveyears old. But we're all at different
stages of our journey. But wecan all hear from the Lord through the
stories of other people and be encouragedby them. And you know, listen,
the word does not return void,and it's just never boring. There's
always something to learn. And Ithink we see that. We see the

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work of Christ in many ways throughthe testimonies of people who've gone through things.
And Matthew Slater has gone through somethings. Don't let him kid you,
like you said, three time SuperBowl champ David Tyree had the most
amazing catch ever and that was alsothe last play that he ever played in
the NFL. Wow. So don'tlet it kid you. He's you know,
he's he's or less catch I shouldsay, he ever made in the

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NFL. So don't kid you.Like he's gone through stuff. All of
us have. But I think that'swhere Paul, we can really grow in
our faith. That's why It's soimportant to be at a gathering like a
rise with the guys because you getto hear testimonies that you can't hear anywhere
else from people who have been throughit, just like we've been through it.
And maybe you didn't put on auniform and wear a helmet and you
know, score a touchdown or whatever, but you can relate because you're a

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human being, you know, witha faith in Jesus and you want to
grow and these guys are there toshare those stories and it's going to be
awesome. So well, I loveyou deeply, ma'am, and I look
forward to seeing you this weekend.Safe travels mister Jason Romano sports Spectrum dot
com at sports Underscore Spectrum via Twitteror x God bless you man, and

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I'll see you soon. Thanks,buddy. Can't wait to see you this
weekend. See yup, Jason RomanoSports Spectrum And what a wonderful website,
wonderful podcasting. And I just say, you do wonderful, wonderful work man.
But I just like you know,like I said at the beginning,
with Jason, it's you. I'mwatching the the media day where you know,
all the players are available for thesuper and there's rock party, and

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you got one hundred people waiting,you know, New York Times, San
Francisco Chronicle, Star Tribune. Andhere Jason rolls up. He's like,
so, what Bible passages are yourreading of late And then brock Purty talked
for five minutes on Psalm twenty threeand the significance of recognizing as the Bible
teaches, we are the sheep andGod is the shepherd, and quite honestly,

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metaphorically speaking, we're dumb sheep andwithout God and the belief in Christ
and the love of Christ and whatHe gave for us, and the guidance
of the Holy Spirit and putting thattrinity together, well, the sheep head
to the edges of cliffs quite frequently, and many, many, many,

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many many fall off, or theyhead into a symbolic den that they think
is fine because of their accomplishment,but there are wolves inside said den.
We need a shepherd, and that'swhat brock Purdy was talking about it,
and Jason got that out of himand triggered him on it. Unbeknownst to
Brock, Jason's a beautiful human being, and you'll see him yours truly along

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with hof Tony Dungee, Matthew Slaterformerly of the Patriots, David Tyree,
he of the Helmet Catch Variety formerlyof the Giants, and CJ. Ham
with the Minnesota Vikings Saturday, Apriltwentieth at Grace Church in Eden Prairie.
It is called a Rise with theGuys and I can't wait. Get some
tickets, bring a bunch of people, gather your friends, gather your family

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members, gather your quote dogs,end quote and it's nine am to about
eleven am and then Jason does hisSportspectrum podcast at Grace Church right after,
and that'll be fun to listen toand watch. A Risewitheguys dot com for
tickets and we really hope to seeyou there. Thank you Jason Romano,

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thank you Eric Nordquist for producing Faithand Goal. And I'm Paul Allan.
Hope to see you Saturday and aRise with the guys, and that's Faith
and God.