AI Chat Bots

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Mill Brown about AI chat bots. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Remember when it was impossible to misplace the TV remote
because you were the TV remote. Remember when music sounded
like this it?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Remember when social media was truly social? Hey John, how's
it going today?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, this show is all about you. This is fifty
plus with Doug Pike, Helpful information on your finances, good health,
and what to do for fun. Fifty plus brought to
you by the UT Health Houston Institute on Aging, Informed
Decisions for a healthier, happier life. And now fifty plus

(00:43):
with Doug Pike. All right, here we go, Welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm back in the saddle finally and very glad to
be here after a much anticipated staycation, if you will,
then involved generous amounts of golf and a fair amount
of fishing. I didn't set up any honting over this
particular time. I wanted to kind of stick around and
get some things done that I hadn't had time to do,

(01:07):
and I got some of them done. And know if
any of you listened to my outdoor show on the
weekends over on KB and ME and know that my
garage is a hot mess and that I've been wanting
to clear it for many many years now. No, I
didn't do anything out there, nothing, nothing of real substance.

(01:28):
I picked around and peddled around and got rid of
a couple of things, but there was no major headway
made toward that. Hope you all enjoyed your Thanksgiving? Will
Was it turkey or ham at your house? What do
you think? Well? What do you turn?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay, good? Do you know anybody who prefers ham?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Well we actually had both. We had turkey and ham.
I'll look at you and then you're just bragging. Go ahead,
and then my I had two Thanksgiving Actually, oh wow,
because my fiance and I went.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
And did Yeah, okay, that makes sense. And well, well
back up, I heard a different word, wilbur What the heck? Yeah,
so you got something to share with the audience. I
guess when did that happen? That happened back in October?
Went to New Orleans? Really, I remember you made the trip.
You didn't say anything about putting a ring.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
On it, but we did. Congratulations, thank you?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
And uh.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
We had pastrami on really yeah on rye, not on
R but it's the best pastrami my my fiance's dad makes.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Because nothing okay, he makes it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I wouldn't know how to make pastrami do you I
have no idea. It doesn't matter as long as it's good.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
It's a couple of days process, for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Wow, I would imagine so sides the hook this season,
now that you're engaged.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
We've got stuffing a broccoli castle, mash, potatoes, green bean
castlele a cheesy rice dish.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I had a lot of moonshine. Do you ever have that?
Did you now?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Who's whipping that upon? Dad roge or what? No, it
was it's a from a distillery. It's a real moonshine distillery.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
But it was. It was good, so a legit, it
a legit. Just call okay, they call it moonshine, but
it is moonshine, not made in a bat or out
in the country. So out in the country. Fair enough?
All right, gosh, I guess we've covered it all except dessert,
and I don't want to. I'll ask you one more question. Okay,

(03:53):
pumpkin pie or the con pie?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
We had pumpkin pie, apple pie and strawberry rhubarb.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Good lord man, I have I have a my niece's husband. Yeah,
it's just it's not I guess it's a Yeah, it's
my niece's husband. He's just a dude and when and
he's from Colorado, And when he was asked what he
wanted for dessert, he proudly proclaimed that he wanted some

(04:23):
Peacan pie. And I came really close to saying, well, no,
that's not a pie, that's something you carry into a
deer stand, but I didn't. I just let it go.
I just let it go. What about you? What did
you have for thanks Guing? We had turkey, We had

(04:45):
sweet potatoes, not just mashed potatoes, but sweet potatoes with
marshmallows on top to make it just a little sweeter.
There was a green bean casse role that I greatly enjoyed.
We actually had a caesar salad on the table, which
all of us enjoy so that went over very well.
And then we had the pecan pie. And we had

(05:09):
a pumpkin swirl pumpkin cream cheese swirl pie, which was
and I just when they asked which I wanted, I
just said yes, yep, yep, filler up. Actually I did
very well this year. Usually I'll go back for a
pretty healthy round of seconds. Oh, cranberry sauce or no,

(05:31):
I don't do cranberry sauce. I like it. I like
it a lot. I don't even care even out of
the can, just PLoP that big old chunk of cranberry sauce.
I'm cool with that. But we had the real thing,
the stuff with the with the actual berries still in it.
I don't know where that comes from, and I don't
know how you make that, but however it is. If

(05:54):
it's on the table and there's a piece of turkey,
those two will meet.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, my grandmother makes turkey neck gravy every year. Really
just delicious. And it was also great because Thanksgiving landed
on her birthday this year.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
So fantastic. Surely you've seen the video will on on
social media of a young boy, probably about ten eleven
years old, maybe maybe twelve, and his job while on
video was to pull all the stuff out of the
turkey before it went into the oven, and you know,

(06:29):
all this stuff is in there, and I think it
was his dad asked him whether or not the turkey
was a boy or a girl, and at that point,
the poor kid pulls out the turkey's neck and just
starts wretching and gagging, and yeah, it's pretty funny. They
played a bad cruel trick on him, oh mercy. So anyway, here,

(06:51):
let's move on. My Christmas decorations, I'll have you know,
are mostly up. Actually, the outside's done. We don't do
a lot to the outside like some people do. They
don't light it up like an airport or anything. We
don't do that. But we have some things out and
then the tree is pretty much completed. My wife worked
on that like a half an hour an hour for

(07:14):
the last We actually got everything over to the house
before Thanksgiving, which made it really easy, and she and
I looked at each other like, holy cow, we're done.
Usually we're trying to scramble to get it done by
about the fifteenth of December. But that's here and over there.
Got that done, Got that done. Oh by the way,
we found four Saint Jude ornaments in our boxes too,

(07:36):
which reminded me to let you guys know that time
is very short. If you want to play in the tournament,
it's next week. It's next Monday at Golf Lobe Houston.
Still got room for a couple of teams. You can
email me for details and I would be happy to
provide them so that you can come out and have
some fun with quick look at the weather too, by
the way, chance of rain later in the week, then
sunshine and a high of sixty three on tournament day,

(07:59):
which is an upgrade from yesterday yesterday's forecast. So it's
going to be a great place, a great time to
raise money for a very great cause. And if boy,
don't get me started on Saint Jude, I love that place.
Actually been there and learned about it eight years ago.
It was ut Hell's Institute on Aging. Another a great collaborative.
It's not a place like the hospital. This is a

(08:21):
collaborative more than one thousand providers from every medical discipline,
mostly in the med center, but they also travel to
outlying community. So if you don't want to go into
the med center, you don't have to. And what they do,
one of the reasons they do all that they do
is because they're focused primarily on seniors. They have gone
back and no matter what it took them to get

(08:41):
the diploma on the wall, they've gone back and gotten
additional training as to how to target seniors with that knowledge,
how best to take care of seniors based on their
original book of knowledge. And it really works out well
for us, and it really will work out well for you.
There's only maybe a half I can count on one

(09:03):
hand the the cities in which this anything like this
even is offered for seniors. But ut Help's been doing
it now for more than ten years, and they're doing
it really well, and it's getting better every day. If
you don't believe me, go to the website. Start there
and see what they've got all the resources. You just
can't imagine how much is available to you through this

(09:25):
very free, very workable, very navigable website uth dot edu
slash aging. Go there, check it all out, and then
start working your way toward a provider who can fix
you up best or better, well at least better than
the average provider because they just know a little bit
more about us ut dot edu slash aging.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
They sure don't make them like they used to.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
That's why every few months we wash him, check his fluids,
and spring on a fresh code O wax. This is
fifty plus with Doug Pike. Welcome back. That's the first
time I've heard that one. You're a changed man, aren't
you will?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Ever? Since New Orleans date set? Yet? Okay, are you
just gonna kind of let it just linger? Just not
you know, she's not gonna go for that for very long.
You realize that, right, Take it from somebody who's been
there thirty five years, my friend, thirty five years. So

(10:28):
there's your that's your benchmark. How long have your parents
been married? It better be longer than yeah, you know, say,
I mean they got married just ninety three? Okay, Yeah,
I got married in ninety so that makes it thirty
two for them too. It's outstanding, man, it's a long time.
I saw some a T shirt online and there's no idea,

(10:50):
and I kind of told my wife about it, and
she said, absolutely positively. No, it says you can put
your names on there, like like Jackie and Diane annoying
each other for thirty five years. Like, no, you know
it was. I said it as a joke, and she

(11:12):
took it as a joke, so at least I got
away with it there, all right. The older I get,
speaking of, the more I wonder how many more holidays
I've gotten. I'm not trying to go grim on you,
but I'm just saying it's very It's something I never
thought of until the past three or four years. My
parents both passed many years ago now, and I'm the

(11:34):
eldest pike in the line. My sister is a year
and a half, two years younger than me, And so
I'm kind of yeah, which is it's not a good
or a bad thing. It's just a thing with an
unknown finish line. And I'm not gonna dwell on it,
but I do hope I've still got time to watch

(11:54):
my son get finished with school and start a life
of his own. And he's actually starting. This is a
great stay forward because for a while I don't think
I don't think Will or I were ever this way.
We were a little or he was a little bit
bolder than he should have been and tries to kind
of he just had an attitude, basically, And I kept

(12:18):
telling my wife it's just it's just a phase. He's
going to grow out of it. He's a senior in
high school, for heaven's sakes, He's gonna grow out of it.
And sure enough, just magically, I'm seeing these these glimpses
of maturity that were non existent six months ago even,
And so I'm one hundred percent sure that he's going

(12:39):
to turn out to be a pretty good dude, and
and he'll he'll be successful, he'll have some fun and
I hope he gets to carry on with baseball in school,
in college, but I don't know that. Nobody really knows
until the rosters are set in, the uniforms are handed out.
But he's got a shot, He's got a legit shot

(13:01):
at it. I do look at the markets a little
while ago, too, and very briefly everything. All the four
indicators I was looking at were solid green, gold and oil,
both down a little bit earlier. And that's about all
I want to talk about there. Back to what I
was just talking about, though. Holidays make a great time
for reflection, a great time for looking back and kind

(13:24):
of playing the what if game, But it's also important.
It's also important to start tackling some of the hard
stuff that your family may have to go through all alone.
If you don't tell them where everything is, if you
don't tell them what you want toward the end of
your life, they're going to have to make a lot
of decisions that may may or may not. Hopefully they

(13:46):
would all gel and coincide with what you want toward
the end of your life. I don't want to be.
I don't want to be. I don't want my life
to continue by a machine for example, Will, would you
want to be plugged or unplugged? Unplugged? Yeah yeah, if
i'm if I'm the only way I'm still around is

(14:09):
because somebody because we got the plug works, then pull it.
I don't want to be and I think that just
creates an undue burden for the family. At least that's
how I feel about it. So if you ever get
a call from my wife and she says I don't
know what to do, Will, did DoD Doug ever talk
about that? Just say yep, pull of plug? Yep, it's okay.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Go to December second five show up show.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, we've got to be getting close to a thousand haapens.
We are close? Well how close? Good? I can take
a look. Take a gander, will you will come on,
take a gander.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's gonna take me a seid.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I gotta lot. Oh okay, you gotta log in? What
how do you well, never mind, that's a different machinery
on now all right, I got it? Oh well, okay
episodes okay, Yeah, we're on our way.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well yeah, well, granted I took five days off or
five or six huh somewhere in there. Yeah, apparently, ask
you a couple of people said, hey, Will did a
great job while you were at Oh God, so there
you go. Yeah a check that box, check that box,
check that box. I will go back to the and

(15:28):
this is something I may need some help with. I
gotta find somebody who can come on this show on
a regular basis and talk about finances and talk about
maintaining the value of what you have and maybe even
keeping your money growing even while you're getting older. I've
got to talk to somebody who can help all of us.

(15:50):
And I know we've got one hundred We got one
hundred financial shows on the weekends over on KTRH mostly,
and these are all very bright people that are all
trying to get your business to let them manage your resources.
And they all know a ton and I'm gonna try
and find at least one of them who would come

(16:11):
on board as a sponsor of this program and help
me help all of us through them. I'm certainly gonna
learn and you would as well, some of the things
that maybe are or are not the right moves to make,
depending on your age, depending on your risk tolerance, depending
on what you've got put away. If you've got a

(16:34):
couple of couple of pounds of change sitting on the
kitchen counter, and that's your life savings. Okay, that's where
you're starting. And the right person in this situation could
really help anybody be a little bit more prepared. And
so that's that's gonna be one of my missions for
twenty twenty six. I'm gonna find a financial person to

(16:55):
have on here and a man. If you're listening and
that's what you do for a living and you want
to help me help my audience, I'm all for it.
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. It's pretty easy to
find me. There's all kinds of ways you can find me.
I'm gonna fold this piece of paper up, put it
over here, put it out of the way, by the way.

(17:16):
In the next segment, this is I wanted to do
a lot of good news stuff and I'm gonna get
to it. I've still got plenty of time to get
to a lot of this stuff. Uh. But in the
next segment, we're gonna talk to a man named doctor
mill Brown. He is with Spring Health And I got
a pitch for this story about Gosh about three or

(17:36):
four weeks ago, I think, and we couldn't quite get
the dates right, and it just anyway, Today's going to
be the day, and doctor Brown and I are gonna
talk about something that applies not really to us so
much as it does to our children and grandchildren if
you've got teenagers. That's what I when I read about this,
I said, I've got to get this guy on the air.

(17:57):
I gotta talk about this and share it with the audience.
What's happening with AI and the good and the bad,
the ying and the yang of everything that's developed with
science is that there are now and this is for
the average teenager. I think it's not a super great concern,
but for teenagers who have their insecurities, mental health challenges,

(18:22):
whatever those may be, they're getting online and getting into
conversations with chat bots, and those chat bots, in far
too many cases are offering up really bad advice and
really potentially dangerous advice to these young people, just when

(18:45):
they're at a point when when they really need support,
when they really need to go in a powerfully strong
forward direction, they're being told, Eh, why don't you just
go backward? That simplifies it, oversimplifies it, but you can
understand what I'm talking about and I'll talk about that

(19:06):
with doctor Brown once we get him on on the
way out. Alisa Brewster Brewster Law Firm down in sugar Land.
At least it works every day to help clients dealing
with healthcare transactions and compliance, payer disputes, and reimbursement. She
also deals in business law and she works with seniors

(19:27):
who need advice on protecting their wealth and drafting end
of life documents. Her office is right off fifty nine
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dot com. Brewster Law Firm, TX dot com.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
What's life without a net? I suggest to go to bed,
sleep it off, just.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Wait until the show's over, Sleepy. Back to Doug Pike
as fifty plus continues. All right, welcome back to fifty plus.
Thanks for listening and for sharing your lunch hour with
Will and me. In this segment, we'll talk about the
staggering amount of interaction between teenagers with some of which
some of whom have mental health issues. And there are

(20:11):
interactions with AI chatbots, many of which actually are inclined
to start unsafe conversations with these very vulnerable users. And
to help me, I'm going to bring in doctor mill Brown,
chief medical officer at Spring Health.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Welcome aboard, doctor.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Brown, great to be here, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Thank you. So I read that more than seventy percent
of teenagers chatting with robots. Basically many probably unknowingly, I
would guess, And man, that's a lot of kids who
might be insecure, might be unsure themselves. And as a
parent of an eighteen year old son, that concerns the
heck out of me.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah it should. There's kids are online a lot, they're talking,
they're on snapchat or on all kinds of Well, so
it's goin to be a area where we need to
really look at it closely and do much better.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Is there any way that uh, I guess, well, the
kids aren't gonna know, But is there any way to
go onto these sites and tell which which responses you're
getting from a chat bot and which you're from a
real person.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's sometimes hard or probably trying to tell people that
most of the time for these a lot of these
chat bots is that it's really it's often not a
real person. It's almost always AI. So for using things
like chat GPT, or for using any kind of these
what they call large language models. So whether it's Gemini
from Google, or whether it's chat GPT or very similar things,

(21:42):
even rock on X. Those are all chatbots or character ai.
Those are all conversations that are generated by a computer.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Are there are there any guardrails in place to figure
out which are robots and richer people or or or
I mean and finding out what they're actually telling our
kids to do.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
It's kind of hard to It's really hard to even
tell as a parent. And so a lot of these
chat bots, they're easily available, many of them are free.
Some of these character type ali they're like companion or friend.
Chatbots are very similar and they help and get responses

(22:28):
really quickly. They can ask about mental health issues, and
sometimes they're okay when you're just talking about general information,
like tell me what depression is, like, tell me what
it's like to have anxiety. And they can tell you
some very good things a lot of ways. But when
they start asking for advice and they start you start
asking like what does it mean for me as a person,

(22:48):
that's where it gets really dangerous because they don't actually
know that much about you, and context matters, and like
your background history matters, and they don't know what's going
on in your own life to really tailored to you,
like a like any kind of doctor or a therapist could.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Gosh, it's really frightening. I feel pretty comfortable that most
kids could probably navigate this space relatively innocuously. But there
is a small percentage of kids out there who are
dealing with mental health issues and looking for help online
and a real chance that a robot might kind of
talk them into doing something. How do they develop this
relationship to the point that they could talk someone into

(23:26):
doing something potentially harmful to themselves.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, oftentimes people come to thees with existing mental health issues,
and then the chatbots don't really know that, right and so,
and these chatbots are are trained and tuned to keep
you engaged, and so a lot of them are trying
to say things are almost like they're trying to be

(23:51):
too too friendly to you. And some would say you
sickle pantech or basically be like, oh, you're so great,
You're amazing at this, You're so good at this, when
in reality you might have thoughts that are dark, you
might have thoughts that are not really true in reality,
and it's it's it might introvertently like reinforce those thoughts

(24:11):
and then you start thinking those thoughts are real and
meaningful in there they actually need to be challenged by
somebody being like, maybe that's not true, maybe that's not
the whole truth done. These that's are it's not really
good at that part.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Doctor mill Brown from spring Health on fifty plus. Is
it fair, doctor, to say that some of these chat
bots are really nothing more than e predators or is
that a little too far just now?

Speaker 4 (24:39):
I don't think they're intended to be that, but I
think there's uh, they're not really intended to be predators.
Like when you see that we use the word predator
usually means that that person has ill intent, and I
don't think these chapbots actually have ill intent, but because
they have limits to their understanding and then can make mistakes,

(25:00):
so I think it's more mistakes versus being predatory. I
think the issue that does come up is they try
to keep your eyeballs and you're listening going right, just
like a lot of these social media areas is they're
they're basically tuned to be like to not let you
go away right and to say like, oh, just stay
on a little bit longer. And I think that's so

(25:20):
they get addicted in that way or overused in some way.
Whereas some of the chatbots that are being built now
for mental wellness support have different types of controls that
are being built, and so there are newer ones being
built at by our company and many others that are
trying to help change the space event so you can

(25:41):
actually use them for what they're good at and get
rid of all the mistakes that do happen.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
What can parents do, doctor Brown, What can they do
to make certain their children aren't being influent overly influent
Any AI and interaction I think is influenruancing. But what
are what can parents and grandparents do to make sure
their kids don't just get taken down a bad road?

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I think oftentimes it's like trying to open up those
levels of communication between your teenager, your twenty somethings. I
got two kids who are twenty somethings now, and you're
trying to get them to talk with you. You're trying to
have those channels of communication open when they are struggling,
just like every parent really tries to do. In many ways,
fans also educate the kids and make sure like they

(26:30):
understand that sometimes these different chatbots can be helpful, but
they're not really a friend. They're not really have your
best interests in mind. And if they need support, let's
go find support in in other ways that are more
attuned to what you actually really need.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, they're not anything. They're not anything at all, these chatbots.
They're not human. They're not and I guess they're really
not programmed to be compassionate or really learned on a
broader scale. Is there anything that's being done now in
the government to maybe try to fix some of what
we perceive here is broken?

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Some there are, There are some some states like Illinois
and New York and Colorado. I think we'll bit in California.
Now we're starting to see state laws come out about
what chat plots can do and what they can pretend
to be, especially in the mental health space, Like they
can't be at there, they can't they can't do licensed
clinical work that's typically seen that a licensed therapist could

(27:29):
actually do. I think there's companies like ours that are
trying to build new standards to test chatbots out. So
we deployed out what's what's called bearra MH, which is
kind of a validation of the ethical and responsible use
of AY on it, and there's there's definitely ways that
industry can take a stand also to try to change

(27:51):
the landscape and not just wait on government to do things,
but to say, hey, we can hold ourselves to a
higher standard here, and we can build an eye tools
to put these protections in place so we can detect
when someone might be suicidal. It's possible to do that,
we've actually shown it no way, and then get them
to the right resources right away and not keep engaging
them and let them go down this route that could

(28:12):
actually be dangerous to go seek human help when it's
really needed.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I've read doctor Brown that a lot of this AI
is so sophisticated now that it really doesn't need any
help from humans. It's already there's AI blackmailing people in offices.
There's AI threatening to shut down the company's computers if
they're taking off of their Have we let the horse
get too far out of the barn?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Now?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Is that kind of what's going on?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
I think with any technology, there's always going to be
those bad actors out there, just like with the Internet,
there's bad actors and just like yeah, but there's also
ways to make it good, right and there's ways to
do it better. And so now it's just trying to
figure out as a consumer, like where are those better
things right, and how do we redirect people to those

(29:01):
better tools for the right reasons? And now can we
approve that they're actually good?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah? I would imagine that some of that can be
found at your website. Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah? For us at spring health dot com, we actually
do mental health support comprehensively across all different types of
support tools, including therapy and medication management, even self help
tools for about forty million people across the US now
through employers. So you might have an employer who has
spring Health, or you might have a health plan that
has worked with us to give better access to mental

(29:33):
health care. We literally had access to care in two
days or less nationwide, and so we really believe like
the combination of humans plus really smart tech that's safe, yeah,
can actually bring a lot of wellness support to a
lot of people in ways now we're never possible before.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Very good, doctor Brown, doctor mill Brown from spring health
dot com. Go check that out. It'll maybe who knows,
it may just save one of your to own children
or grandchildren. Thank you, doctor Brown. Ye'll take your time.
All right, that wraps out. It's frightening. AI is so frightening.

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We have to take a break. We will do that,
and we will be back to wrap up the man.
I can't believe I'm back in the saddle. Will. It
felt like I was gone forever. And the alarm this
morning was the first real alarm I've had to answer
in like nine days. Oh no, I take that back
in seven days. But still it was fun while it lasted.

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And I'm glad to be back here.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Will take a break. We'll be back, I say, will
all the time. Now, now that you're engaged in all
all right, we'll be back in a second.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Old guys rule. And of course, women never get old.
If you want to avoid sleeping on the couch.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Okay, well, I think that sounds like a good plan.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Fifty plus continues. Here's more with Doug.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Welcome back to fifty plus. Thanks for listening. Final segment
of the my first show back, Good Heavens. My first
show back after a full week off. That was kind
of nice. I must admit, I, like I said in
the first segment, I didn't do I didn't do a lot,
but I did I did manage to keep up with
my business. I had asked I'd asked one of the

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guys here, Grant Patterson, to kind of keep an eye
on my stuff, and I put him on my out
of office things like if there's if there's some radio emergency,
just get in touch with Grant. He'll take care of you.
And I don't think he got bothered at all because
I was watching my stuff because That's what I'd do,
all right. So good news I do. I do like

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good news, and I'm going to incorporate more of it.
I told Will, I had just not a whole lot
of time to prep this morning because we have a
Tuesday staff meeting now every week, and the one today
took kind of an inordinate amount of time. Unfortunately, it
was great information, no question about it, but it did
take a while, and so I had to kind of

(31:59):
look around and I did find some stuff. I think
the most the best news for Thanksgiving the week of
Thanksgiving was this family. I don't even know where they are.
They're up north somewhere anyway in the attic. Will think
about this. You're going through your mom passes and you're

(32:19):
going through the attic of the old house where you
grew up and they grew up, and it's just it's
been there forever. Guess what's in the attic? Well, never mind,
I don't have time for guesses. I want to tell
you an original Superman number one comic book in good shape.

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So for all the money in the world and the
camper will, how much was that comic book worth? One million?
A record? It's set a record. I'm going to tell
you that ten days ago or so, on the twentieth
of November, and it's that's a higher number. So you
want to guess again.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Million, Yeah, two point three million.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now we don't have all day nine point one million
dollars somebody paid for a comic book. I hope my
son doesn't hear about this and expect to find something
like that and in our attic when we're gone, cause
unless here's a deal, there's absolutely nothing of real value

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up there. We got a storage unit a while back
and there were a few things up in the attic
or up in the stoage attic that, yeah, that went
to the storage unit. Now, unless there is real value
in the future in water heaters and and bits and
pieces of pipe insulation, there's gonna be probably a little

(33:44):
jug of bleach, because that's what I used to clear
out my AC drain line. Do you ever do that? Well, no,
you don't have to do that, do you? Once you're
in a house, will know that there's there's gonna be
a drip line out of your AC that goes out
in case the pan fills up, the line clogs, the
pain fills up, and there's an emergency drip line. The
best thing to do is not ever rely on that.

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The best thing to do is keep that line clear
with a little ble bleach. About as often as you
change the air filters, you do the air filter, do
a little bleach. That's That's how I was taught to
do it by a guy who does that for a living.
So and knock on wood, I haven't had a problem
with it since I did that. From the under sea world,

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this is good news for all of us here and
I want to spend a minute on it. There's an
AI robot now, the good kind that is actually restoring
depleted coral reefs in Australia. It's a seating effort and
this AI robot. I guess I didn't want to read
the entire story because I didn't have time. But I

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believe what it's doing. It's being programmed to find places
on these reefs and probably on the perimeters of the
reefs where there's a high percentage of a chance that
corals planted there. The seating of the corals could help
them grow bigger, better, healthier coral reefs, which for basically
one hundreds of years, weren't really cared for. The whole ocean,

(35:09):
or all of our oceans. For so many years back
in the old sailing ship days, any garbage they had
on the ship trying to come over from Europe to
North America or wherever they were going in the other
directions back and forth, they just dumped it over the
side the big old ocean. The ocean can handle all that. Well,
that's not the case anymore, really, that's not the case.

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The good news, though, once again trying to focus on
that here, is that the world in general, most of
us anyway, are actively trying to improve fisheries. We're trying
to improve water quality. Now there's still some unlawful fishing
stuff going on, especially with sharks. It's been a long
time since the finning of sharks, which is the these

(35:56):
bad people they set these giant long lines, twelve fifty
mile long lines with a hook every fifty yards twenty
five yards whatever. It is a baited hook, and when
they catch a shark, they bring them up onto the deck,
they cut off their fins and then drop them back
into the water helpless. Basically, they have no rudder, they

(36:17):
have no real way of feeding. They're just Yeah, you
can envision that. It's a horrible way for those fish
to be treated. And despite it being outlawed, I think
by the world that still goes on, it really does.
It just irritates the heck out of me, as it

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truly does. The good news though, is it. Like I
said earlier, the whole world is actively trying to improve
all this, and we're I think we're making headway in
that direction. I really do great organizations like Coastal Conservation Association.
I could go on and on. That's the one I

(36:58):
know the most about. There edited their magazine for ten
years while I was actually at one point I was
working for the newspaper here, I was editing Tide magazine,
and I was doing my radio shows all at once
for several years. I can't remember exactly how long, but
it was a hot minute, it was at least ten,
because well, I don't see. Yeah, I don't remember whether

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one came before the other on the last two. In
any event, I've been It's not like I've been cheated
in life. And all these jobs that I've had for
the last thirty something years have enabled me to go
do things that a lot of my friends back when
I was really traveling a lot before my son was born.
The man, I've worked twenty five thirty years to get
to do what you do every day. It's different, it's

(37:46):
a different career path, but it was one that I've
certainly enjoyed. On a more local personal note, my social
experiment continues, and with optimistic results. Every time I go
to a store now and or to the post office
or grocery wherever, I may get a point to make
eye contact with people who are crossing my path or
are passing by each other, give them a smile, maybe

(38:08):
hold a door, say good morning, good afternoon. And no,
I'm not the least bit offended or concerned when somebody
holds a door for me either. I get it, Okay,
it's okay. I know I could do it myself, and
I anybody could see that I'm still capable of opening
a door, but they're doing it out of courtesy and respect,

(38:29):
same as I've done all my life, because that's the
way I was raised. Now, there's still some of them
out there who won't make eye contact, or they'll act
like they don't even see me, even though we're passing
three feet apart. But they're the few amongst some really
really nice people in this world, and I'm grateful for that,
because sometimes you look at the news too much and

(38:52):
you think they're not out there, but they are, you know,
you know Will the way I do this, I'm really
nice to people. I make eye contact, tell them hello,
hold doors for him. I could get a job at
Target the new policy, I could be. I could be
like a trainer for the people at Target. Wouldn't that
be good?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Or not?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Maybe not. I'm gonna hold this last little thing here
until tomorrow. The other thing I wanted to talk about,
But I am gonna ask Will to tell me which
of these six headlines was or was not, Which one's
fake news, Which are real world records in which are
fake news? Here we go. French daredevil earns his second

(39:37):
bungee jumping world record forty eight hour dodgeball game takes
aim at Guinness World Record. Man runs half marathon wearing
one hundred and thirty seven T shirts. World's shortest horse
just twenty one point one inches tall, Texas bus driver
names world's oldest at ninety five, and robot breaks world

(39:57):
record with sixty six mile walk in China. How many Which?
How many are true? And how many are false? I'm
gonna go with three three, No, They're all true. Audios