Mental Health and Aging

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Lokesh Shahani on mental health in the senior community. Pike also speaks with Frank Heyliger, Aetna Texas Chief Medicare Officer, about how by 2030, more than 1 in 5 Americans will be over the age of 65.

Episode Transcript

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Thank you for listening. As alwaysa welcome to fifty plus, where seldom
is heard a disparaging word. Ithought of that earlier. As a group,
honestly, we just don't do that. We don't. We try not

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to criticize. They're always occasional outliers, a few who among any group always
want to zig when everybody else's aggs. But buying large, we don't bug
people. I don't think we doanyway, And speaking for myself at least,
I don't care what other people door say, or even how they
identify, so long as they're nothurting anyone, especially kids, and so

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long as they understand that in exchangefor my okay, for whatever they're doing,
I expect reciprocity across the board.They've got to respect my opinions as
much as I respected theirs. That'sall. I, for example, opposed
to biological men participating in women's sports, and it just keeps coming up more

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and more, and in fact,Riley, I believe, is testifying in
Austin today on that very subject.Decades now after women athletes fought so hard
for equal opportunity in sports for womenwho were willing to sacrifice so much to
achieve recognition on the field, onthe golf course, on the tennis court
and the pool whatever, and nowour president and his party want to allow

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men to participate against women gains.Actually, she's talking about how much.
I saw an interview with her,and she talked about how much women in
her field have to give up everymorning, every afternoon, all day they
constantly are training to shave tenths ofseconds off their times, doing everything they

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can to just get a little bitfaster. And then along comes a biological
man who identifies as a woman,a swimmer who as a man wasn't even
in the nation, the nation's toptwo hundred or so, I think,
and he wins by several seconds overall the women in the field. I
do not think that's fair. Ijust don't. There's a place for everybody

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in sport. I don't have aproblem with that, But allowing men to
compete as women, and allowing himas has already happened more than once to
I keep reading stories about locker roomincidents where there's no discretion at all,
and people are just doing things Idon't think are right. I find that

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unfair and equally unnecessary. Really.In related news, by the way,
some guy named Dave, who appearsto be closer to my age than to
Wills, entered a women's poker tournamentin Florida a couple of days ago,
maybe over the weekend. Probably.He doesn't even identify as a woman,
at least I don't think he does. If he does, he's not really

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good at it. He's got abig white beard and a bald head,
and as I said, is yeah, he's just he's just dude. And
he entered anyway because there's no lawagainst it, and he won the tournament.
There were three women in the tournamentactually, who started up a fund

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for whoever could knock him out ofthe tournament, but none of them did,
so he ended up winning I thinkfifty five hundred dollars. I want
to say it was about a twohundred and fifty dollars buy in, no
limit, hold them tournament, andit was his turn to win. Poker
is one of the few sports whereI think there's really no difference in the
skill set required to win. It'snot a physical game, okay, same

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with chess, same with anything whereyou don't have to run faster, jump
higher, hit the ball farther,any of that stuff where power is not
an issue. I think women areequally footed with men, But in the
rest of the sports, it justit bothers me a little bit. Thinking

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ahead to the second segment, TodayMay is Mental Health Awareness Month, and
since it is that, and sincemental health is of such great importance now
in this country and around the world, as it should be, as it
finally is, I'll put that outthere. I'll be doing several interviews on
several aspects of mental health this month. In the second segment today, for

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example, we will speak with aman named doctor Lokesh Shahani about how many
of us, statistically anyway, howmany seniors are going to experience a mental
health disorder, and more importantly,whether there's really much of anything we can
do about it. That's one ofthe things that frightens me knowing that a

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percentage, and it's not five orten percent, it's about a quarter of
us are going to experience, inseniority and deeper into seniority, some sort
of mental disorder. One in four. Look around the room. If you're
in a room with three other peoplearound your age, one of you,
one of you is probably going tostatistically anyway, will be there. Hopefully

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by the time we all reached thatage, we all get to that point
in our lives, there will beeven more treatment. And that's something I'm
going to talk about a little laterin the program. A fantastic, fantastic
bit of medical news that I willshare later on. Oh, speaking of

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good news. By the way,the person I don't know, I don't
know what to call him really withoutgetting in trouble. The person accused of
killing five people up near Cleveland,this week a couple of days ago is
all arrested yesterday after the FBI gota tip on his whereabouts. They also
arrested that guy's wife, who authoritiessay helped him get as far as he

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did. One of the guys atwork here told me that apparently he had
walked some fifteen miles, and theyoung man here said, well, gosh,
how could he do that? Howcould he walk fifteen miles without being
noticed? Well, he wasn't walkingdown city sidewalks. That's how he was
walking in the woods. He waswalking off the road where he wouldn't be

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seen. And honestly, it's inthat part of the state, it wouldn't
be hard to not be seen bytraffic. And even if he were seen,
if he were wearing a shirt anda cap and a long sleeve shirt,
because he's got tats on his armsthat were easily identified, but a
long sleeve shirt and a cap,just walking down the side of the road

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and maybe carrying a lunchbox or something. He doesn't look out of place at
all anywhere in Texas. He's he'sjust another guy going to work or coming
home from work. All right,we gotta take a little break here on
the way out, I'm so gladhe's arrested though, and I'm glad he's
behind bars, and yeah, itcould have turned out another way and maybe
even a little bit better for thefamilies of those people. It's just it's

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frustrating. But on the way out, I'll tell you about UT Health Science
Centers Consortium on Aging. That iswhere they handle nobody but us seniors.
That's it, and everybody there isspecially trained in senior medicine. Hence their
disinterest in younger people. They knowwhat keeps us going, they know what
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us going for a longer, healthier, happier, more productive life. All
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You'd like to be on UT dotedu slash aging ut dot edu slash aging.
Now they sure don't make them likethey used to. That's why every
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of wax. This is fifty pluswith Doug Pike say something. I love

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this song from a long, longago, mostly because I like keyboard playing
and the keyboards back in the what'sthat like eighties? Maybe late seventies,
early eighties somewhere in there. Lookit up will real quick, and then
we got to get to the gooddoctor. Welcome back, fifty plus.
Thanks as always for listening. Sinceit's mental do you get it? Seventy

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seven beingo, I nailed it.That would be yes. By the way,
how long, Thanks for always forlistening. Mental Health Month. As
I mentioned earlier in the program,I'm gonna start my tribute to mental health
awareness with a discussion of how someof us, statistically, as I mentioned
in the opening, about a quarterof us at some point, that many

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of us will experience some mental disorder. To hopefully ease our minds a little,
I'll bring in doctor Loquez Shahani,Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychiatry
and Behavioral Sciences with Mcgoverned Medical Schoolat UT Health. Welcome aboard, doctor,
thank you for having me show.Sure. So there's a there's a
big difference I'm going to presume betweenthe mental illnesses that impact younger people.

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We see that now with entertainers andathletes a lot. They're they're revealing their
depressions and anxieties and stuff, thosetypes of situations as weighed against maybe what
happens to so many seniors. Nomatter how well or how poorly we've led
our lives, do we have anyidea why old brains tend to attract dementia
and mental illness. So it's alot about aging. I think aging,

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you know, comes with a soilcomplication. When people age, they tend
to develop a lot more medical complications. And you know, the brain is
just another organ in your body.Just like as your muscles wear and tear,
your brain starts wearing and tearing asyou kind of grow older, leading
to a lot more psychiatric changes inyour lifestyle. The hard drive kind of
filling up, inn't it. Dogjust definitely is no more space to put

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information like how to stop feeling theway we feel in the past ten or
fifteen years or so. Maybe goingback to the differences in these minal illnesses.
Have we seen an increase in thenumber of cases among seniors of depression
and anxiety the stuff that more youngpeople seem to get and other stuff that

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impacts young people. Are we areseniors catching up with them in those things.
Is that why our numbers are goingup? It definitely is, and
actually post COVID nineteen pandemic the pastthree years that we've had definitely impacted as
as far as the latest statistics go, approximately one in three older adults is
facing a mental health challenge. Itcould be either related to depression or sadness,

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related to anxiety, or just oneanother common symptom of unable to sleep
at night. Yeah, yeah,I have. I have issues with that
sometimes when I get tired enough,you can't keep me awake. At that
point, there's a back and that'sthat's a healthy body for you, sir.
Oh that's good. So I'm goingto guess that that mental illness would

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manifest itself across a broad age rangerather than just seeing yours or young people.
We're all feeling the effect. Liketake for example, just what's going
on in the country. It feelsvery divided and whatnot. Is that contributing
to mental illness. There's there's youknow, it's almost like peals of honey,
and there's a lot more complexity tothat answer, but you know,

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definitely what's happened in our society.There's definitely increased financial stress in our society
based on what's happening around us,and that's leading to you know, a
lot more housing insecurity, food insecurity, just a general level of stress in
our society has grown, has goneup, which is leading to more mental
health stressors. The other thing that's, you know, our US Surgeon General,

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doctor Weiwick Morty discussed yesterday another pandemicthat the US US system is dealing
with, this loneliness. So inthe past couple of years, there has
been significant amount of social isolation,if I can call it, where you
know, people are not just asconnected as they were maybe five or six
years back, and that has alsoled to poor coping, poor social support,

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leading to more mental health symptoms.And that brings me to the importance
for the younger people in this audiencelistening to this show today to stay in
touch with their family members, stayin touch with older people they know in
the neighborhood, just to have thatconnection even if it's only once a week
for a phone call, just makesure that they feel connected to somebody somehow.

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Was that a good idea? Icannot agree more than that what you
just said. I mean, youknow, just that whole human connectedness or
social connectness is so important just tofeel worthy in the society. So let's
go back to seniors and back tosomething I think that when it's kind to
hear a quarter my peers. Beforewe're done, let's talk about the changes
we might see in somebody. That'sstuff that's leading up to things that just

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can't be written off as just stuffold people do. So, you know,
mental health symptoms manifest a little differentlyin older adults as compared to younger
adults. When older adults start experiencingmental health symptoms, they usually start as
like physical symptoms, So they'll startas like, you know, I'm unable
to sleep, my appetite is kindof altered. I'm not as hungry as

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I used to be. I feeltired a lot, or sometimes just kind
of more changes in mood. Idon't feel like doing things that I previously
enjoy. If I was a partof a club, I don't enjoy being
there. Being enjoyed company, andthen starts coming in the mental health symptoms.
I start feeling too sad, I'mworrying too much, I'm becoming emotionally

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sensitive that I'm starting to cry moreeasily, and then you know, progresses
to why am I here? Thoughtsof self harm, thoughts of suicide.
So I think it's a gradual rampup. What I tell people, educate
people. You know, it's easiercatching symptoms at an earlier phase because symptoms
are milder. It's much more easiergetting treated when symptoms are milder, and

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we can kind of, you know, make your quality of life so much
more better. Door loquez Shani,I'm fifty plus, talk a lot.
By the way, if you everhear that I've quit playing golf and quit
going fishing, just come over tomy house immediately and take me in.
I'll always be at your service.That will indicate the end of me right

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there. Let's talk again about howyou talk about how the symptoms can manifest
themselves as physical things, but oncethe mental illness sets in, that can
in turn generate more physical problems.Can it definitely? And it's again a
chicken and egg thing. There's alwaysa connection between does your physical symptoms make
your mental health symptoms worse or yourmental health symptoms make your physical symptoms worse.

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Most mental health experts, including me, feel it's a bidirectional thing.
If one is worsening, the otheris bound to worsen in some ways.
Actually did a recent study in ouruniversity where we found that people who had
a larger physical burden, more physicalsymptoms, tend to also have a larger

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mental health burden. Wow, that'svery interesting. There are there effective treatments
for these disorders, and especially inmuch older people, anything that can turn
back the hands of time maybe forsomebody who's in their eighties or nineties.
I think more importantly what we tellpeople is being open about your symptoms.
For example, when you're actually goingto seeing seeing a physical health doctors,
going to see your family doctor,your intern is making sure your intern ist

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to or your primary doctor knows thatyou are struggling on your mental health side.
All of us, as doctors,you know, have experience in treating
mental health symptoms. If we don't, we can at least make an appropriate
referral to for you to see anexpert in that field. But you know,
feeling open, feeling comfortable about sharingyour symptoms is definitely a message that

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I would like to pass on toour older adults on this show. I
think you might have been reading overmy Showhoulder, because that was the next
question I had right there. Andthe reason I say that is because with
so many people, so many seniorsespecially get scammed, and they're scared to
talk about it. They may feelloneliness or depression or anxiety or anything like
that. And again they're scared totalk about it because they don't want other

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people to know, and they don'twant it God forbid to be a precursor
to something worse. But it's importantto start right away. We got about
thirty seconds. I'll let you havethem. We definitely don't need to treat
mental health disorders as a stigma anymore. One thing that I tell all our
patients is, you know, yourbrain is just like another organ in your

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body. If you're having a chestpain, you're going to speak to your
doctor about it. So if you'rehaving any mental pain, beat, anxiety,
or depression, be open, speakto your doctors about it. So
far, so good for me.I'm only depressed when I lose a fish
or hit a bad shot. SoI'm gonna I'm gonna hang in there as
long as I can. Doctor LoquezShohaney, thank you so very much.
This has been a fantastic interview.I appreciate your time, sir. Thank

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you, doctor, Thank you forhaving me on your show. Yes,
sir, bye bye. All right, we gotta take a little break here.
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All right, welcome back to fiftyplus. Thanks for listening. Turns out
I'm I'm guessing because there are alreadyso many of us, and statistics say
they're gonna be a lot more inthe future. Turns out that we seniors
are being studied by a whole lotof people in the healthcare, healthcare delivery,
and healthy living industries, and alreadyby year's end, the Census bureau

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thinks one in five Americans will beolder than sixty five, and the eighty
five plus group is going to triple. I don't know. I don't know
if I'll make that this mark ornot by twenty sixty. I doubt it.
Honestly, I'm already halfway there.And then some To share findings from
a new CBS Health trend report,I'll bring on Frank highly Ger, CBS

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is Chief Medical Officer. Welcome aboard, Frank, Hey dog. We have
to pleasure to be talking to youand greatly appreciate So from what I've read,
this country's tens of millions of seniorsactually are embracing, as opposed to
rejecting, some of this new technologyand healthcare delivery, especially the idea of
virtual visits. We're seniors on boardfrom the onset of this technology, or

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have we been a little slower thanyoung people to accept it and use it.
No. One of the things thatthe study points out that the adoption
of new technology, it's being embracedby this generation aging named sixty five plus.
When you think about it, Imean ten years ago, fifteen years
ago, the use of cell phonesswas now that common when you look at

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my generation which is approaching the sixtyfive, I mean we're coming users get
technology. So it's still surprised tome that this new new wave of individuals
across America, I mean a gemsix o'clock loss embrace that also if you
think about it, I mean,out of the pandemic came this need to
use this technology, including telemedicine,which I think it's key in this population,

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especially with those that have transportation issuesin going to their to their medical
providers. Good stuff for sure.Clearly still some things that can't be diagnosed
or dealt with except in a clinicalsetting. But talk about some of the
best and most common uses of thesevirtual visits. This urgusis are great,
especially for for urgent care. Asyou and I know most most urgent caracist

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it's occur after eight o'clock where wheremost of the decision and offices are closed.
So there's new platforms technologies that Iknow of that connect an individual to
in primerica position or an interspectation orthey diagnose the individual and from there they
can try ash treatment going to thepharmacy to obtain medicine for that condition at

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that moment, or it can betrashed to an emergent care center or worst
case scenario and emergency. Sure,I'm hoping the answer is yes. But
is the medicare system on board withvirtual visits and all of this new technology.
Yes, I mean quite honestly,Doug. It was resistant prioriti to
the pandemic, post pandemic, it'ssomething that now cmis it's embracing not only

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not only the federal level, alsothe medicated agencies in different stakes. Let's
move to something i'll presume you guysare quite proud of, and that's the
health trend reports CBS just published.How long do you guys collect data and
how many people do you have involvedin that? We have hundreds of people
Involivada. This is collection of dataover years. It's a magic collection,

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evidence based data that really points outI think that we knew were happening,
but now we have evidence based tobasically see what's happening, corroborated what was
happening, and then take action.Just more most important on the strends,
certainly so Frank Heiliger here he isthe CBS Chief Medicare Officer. Seniors almost

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by default since our parts kind ofwear down and where we tend to need
more medical attention than younger people.How do you think seniors and their chronic
conditions are going to affect our healthcaresystem moving forward? Well, there there
I think three major forces I convergingright now. The first one that you
mentioned, I mean, it's onein five Americans aging in But number two

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one of the things that the studypoints out that clearly idmpathizes that each of
those individuals have at least to FRANCconditions almost common diabetes, some type of
of party vascular h conditions that needattention constantly. Aside from that, there
are other needs for this population thatneeds to be addressed in a constant basis,

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being visioned being hearing tchnician self care. And the third forces U NA
related to decide about another studies AFC. It's the migration of medical students out
of primary care into specialty here,so company with that in that aging of
the population, you have to accountfor your physicians. So more primary care

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physicians are aging and retiring than primarycare physicians combinating to the profession. I
was encouraged when when I saw inwhat I got before this interview about the
relationship that patients should have with theirpharmacists, especially seniors, to talk about
anything. My wife and I havea favorite CBS pharmacist or names Mary,

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and she has the patience of asaint and is actually she's talked us through
all kinds of things, such awonderful person to have on what we consider
our team. Really talk about thatrelationship that patients should have, and I'll
go ahead and say it, ifyou're nice to your pharmacists, that pharmacists
will be nice to you. Thatis absolutely rot and ryding spot Dog.

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I mean, one of the thingsthat the study reveals is that most seniors
I mean have a very cruels relationshipwith their pharmacists and in the primary care
physician. I am that integration thatCBS Health brings to those aspects of the
care of the patient, both pharmacyand the primary care. It's incredibly important
producing the best albums. To yourpoint, specifically pharmacists at CBS pharmacist,

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I know this is my personal experience. When you go to pick up a
prescription, have they have your record? And about a month ago, the
pharmacists ask me, mister Harniger,are you are you often into your numococal
vaccination, your flu vaccination. Soit's a checkpoint that you do at the
point of service, regardless if you'rethere for vaccination or to pick up a

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prescription in close coordination also with theprimary care physician. Or are more of
us using CBS as many clinics nowthat well, I guess they have have
to be since they started, Butdo you see a trend where more and
more people are taking advantage of thatopportunity that is that is direct, it's

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there, it's at the pharmacy's convenient. Uh no, no way. Times
were very very short way at times, and it's a whole host of services
that you can provide at those clinicsand that and that's part of a very
important aspect of the healthcare system.Nowaday isn't something that CBS. It's it's
it's moving forward and perhaps pioneering somesome some aspects. It's it's make sure

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that you have a company that cancan really move that individuals to the continual
care to procure the best outcomes.What would you say, Frank, is
the least or the most underutilized resourcehealthcare wise available to seniors now, the
one we missed. I would saythat the care managers that that edna UM,

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which is a CBS company, bringsbrings to the beneficiary when they're enrolling
a Madicare advantage plant, that thatcare coordinator is instrumental in helping you navigate
the continuum care from your primary careif that individual ends up in an inpatient
admission discharge, planning what's the bestnext level of care either at home and

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if it's a home, coordinating allof those services that the senior may need
after discharge from the hospital. It'slike a medical concierge service almost, isn't
it really exactly exact land And frompersonal experience, I and several years ago
when my father fail all I amnot only him being a position but me
have been in the industry for thirtyyears navigating your traditional Medicare feed for service,

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coordination of benefits. What's the realnightmare, what's really really difficult?
So those gone to urge make itmake first of all, are highly effective,
educate you on old aspects of thecare, and help you navigate that
a lot easier than it would beon eural. Yeah. I think when
when people start using that type ofservice, they'll come to realize that what's

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being stored the data being stored onthem up there wherever those care coordinators are
is quite elaborate, and they'll knowit's just from bringing up your chart.
They'll know a lot about you andcan help you very quickly. I hate
to tell you this, but we'reout of time, Frank. I really
want to. I want to.I know it went very fast. I
might have to have you on againsometime. I want to thank you and
CBS for recognizing seniors, for studyingus and maybe helping us get a little

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farther down the road and get throughthis healthcare system that seems to change almost
daily. Thank you so much,Frank, absolutely like I having a pleasure.
I look forward to you again.Wonderful I'll do. I'll take you
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say it that way, but that'sokay. Nobody says running Well, I
guess they do. Running for office. If you said you're running for office,
think people might think differently of you. Okay, As I promised on

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a Facebook post I did right beforethe show, I want to get to
a piece of information I think isvery exciting good news. There are new
antibiotics being developed that are capable ofshape shifting, no fooling. This is
sci fi stuff here and could quiteeasily help. According to the man who

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discovered this ability for these things todo that in the fight they're going to
help in the fight of medically resistantbacterial infections that currently, it said,
kill about one point two million peoplea year. These whatever is being done

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to these drugs is enabling them torearrange the molecules, to rearrange their own
atoms through a method that won thisguy the Nobel Prize just this past year,
Professor John Moses gets credit. Whathe's done is he's enabling a single
specific molecule to move its atoms intonearly a million different combinations, and by

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rearranging those atoms, the antibiotics getthrown or they are able to throw a
new weapon at resistant bacteria. Moreto come on this, so much more,
and I hope sooner rather than later. And I hope in terms that
I can that I can tell youand even I will understand, that's just

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beyond beyond regular role stuff. Whenyou start shape shifting molecules by rearranging their
atoms so that they better fight bacterialinfection, I couldn't even have dreamed that
up in a screenplay. I don'tthink there's a scam that we need to

(34:29):
worry about a new one, yetanother one, And the disturbing name for
this is called pig butchering. Butwhat happens is some scammer will send you
a random text with information that makesno sense to you, and then shortly
thereafter send you another text, apolite apology, which leads in some cases

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to more texts, more interaction,ultimately you being builked for all you've got.
They start, they're very patient,and these things they say take weeks
and even months to develop. They'rethey're building a relationship, they're building trust
with you. They pretend to bepretty wealthy, and they want to help

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you get wealthy by teaching you howto trade in crypto or in other and
whatever whatever you whatever you latch onto, that's what they're gonna help you with.
And then they'll start showing you Ilook, just put a little money
over here and watch how it becomesbigger money. And they played this game
with you for a little while untilyou're ready to take the big leap and

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get rich right now. And thenyou shove all in into some random place
they tell you to send your money, and then your numbers blocked from the
place you sent the money and theperson who was scamming you. Please be
aware of this. Please don't.I don't want my listeners robbed. I

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really really really don't. By theway, I need to remind you to
text Congress. You need to textAM. That's all you have to do.
Get on your phone, bring upa fresh new text, and direct
it to five to eight eighty six. That's the number you need to send
it to. And the only messageyou need to send is AM. That's
it, AM. Those two letters, and that will tell Congress that you

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want to keep AM radios in yourcars and trucks and whatever vehicle you drive.
Without AM radio, you're gonna missout on an awful lot of stuff.
And you know it, and Iknow it, and we all know
it, especially though it's important inemergencies where you're gonna get real time information
and not just some text message onyour phone. It may be dead because

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your electricity's out. Leave the AMradio in the car, for goodness sakes.
Go out there if there's an emergency. Find out where the closest shelter
is. Find Out where you canget bottled water. Find out where you
can get some help. Getting apatch on a leaky roof. That's what
AM radio can do for you ina time of crisis. In regular times,

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you get to hear your favorite talkshows, hopefully Minds among them.
You get too, here are sportingevents. You get all kinds of things
that you can't get otherwise in yourcar if they take the AM radio out.
Now, the good news is youcan always listen to our shows on
iHeartRadio. But the bad news isif they take out the AM radio in

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your car, you lose out onall the benefits that will keep you in
touch, in contact in an emergencywhen the powers down and you can't charge
your batteries. Keep the AM radiosin the cars. AM to five two
eight eight six, text AM tofive to eight eighty six, ident it.
I've gotten responses from the offices ofmy congressional representatives. If you've done

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it yet? Will maybe? Areyou gonna do it today? Will often
just do it? Will you?It's called job security for you, dude.
Think about it that way? Ohmercy? All right? By the
way, how much time do Ihave? Yeah? Have a minute?
White House Press Secretary Karen Karn JeanPierre actually said that, and I quote

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when it comes to illegal migration.You have seen it come down by more
than ninety percent, and that's becauseof the actions that this president has taken.
End quote. I don't know whatplanet she's on, I don't know
where she's from. But that's alittle no, it's actually a lot off.
In fact, illegal immigration is settingrecords again, most recently with something

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like twenty thousand encounters in seventy twohours. The only thing she said that
was true about the border situation isthat it is quote because of the actions
that this president has taken. Thatpart was true. And they keep babbling
and spouting out the belogna here,bologna there, and we've all heard it

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and it's never gonna go away,but don't believe it. Fact check for
yourself if you have to. Allright, well, telling me, I
gotta get out of here. Wegotta make room for what's next on AM
nine to fifty. Thanks for listening, Audios