Mental Health Matters

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey John, how's it going today?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
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(00:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, here we go. Welcome back to yet another
episode of fifty plus. Another fantastic day in the neighborhood,
as mister Rogers might have said, where he's still around,
hanging around the neighborhood, creeping around, doing whatever you want
to call it. So long as your neighborhood's in Southeast Texas,
it's a fantastic day, no doubt. It's dry, unusually so

(01:07):
in some areas, but given the option of too dry
and too wet this time of year for a week,
I'll take the former. Every time. I'll run the sprinklers
until they tell me not to. Then I'll run them
in the dark A little bit I'm okay with being
told not to water my yard so much, because I
know Saint Augustine is pretty hardy and it's gonna take

(01:28):
a lot to kill it. But then again, I do
like it when it looks green more than when it
looks brown. It is looking more and more like fall
is actually here, and that I am basing on the
number of acorns that are starting to fall out of
the four oak trees in front of my house. And
it's a weird thing. The oak trees in my yard

(01:50):
produce conservatively fifty times more acorns than anybody else's trees
on the block. I don't know why. I don't know
what was in the soil when they planted there. I
don't know what kind of food they got when they
were younger. But I do know that I could pick
up a bushel basket full of acorns probably once a week,

(02:15):
out of my yard if I go out there with
a shop back and scoop them up. I'm tempted to
do that too. I know a lot of guys who
are deer hunters, and I don't think they would mind
throwing some extra acorns out there for their deer. I
hadn't even thought about that until now this year. I
think about it every year when the acorns they're all
over the driveway, they're all over the sidewalk. And I

(02:36):
stand at the corner of my walkway from the door
to the street, and stand where the sidewalk intersects it,
and I look left, and I look right, and beyond
my property line, I could count on one hand the
number of acorns between there and the end of the
block on my property, conservatively one hundred almost probably now

(02:59):
for another month, on any given day, that the yard
guy hadn't come along and blown them all out of there,
blown him back into the r wherever he hits him
with his blower. We're into autumn. For what it's worth
around here. I put a little asterisk by autumn because
it's not going to be that noticeable to anybody who's

(03:21):
new here. It's a very subtle difference. We're not talking
overcoats and mittens yet. It's more just like the opportunity
to take a walk down the block, walk to the
mailbox and back without drowning and sweat fall for another
two months or so, for what it's worth, then a
month of pre winter, two or three, maybe weeks of

(03:42):
true winter than two weeks of pre spring, one week
of spring, and this summer again, and it'll go that
fast too. The cool, lovely, nice weather that we get
from about November really October still can be kind of warm,
but I would say November through February just three months.
It's not anything like the winners that they get in

(04:04):
places where winter is real. Ours is just just smoking mirrors.
Karen and Jerry. The two hurricanes still in the Atlantic,
I think one comes down to a tropical storm. Now,
I'm not sure which one, although they're in very different
latitudes and longitudes. Neither of them poses any threat really,
except to cargo ships. That would be about it. Let

(04:25):
me see how much time I've got. Good, I've got
a couple of minutes, right, Yeah, I've got several minutes.
The market's holy cow. Some serious profit taking today and
some serious concern over President Trump's message yesterday. But he
wasn't messing around with China and was probably gonna put
some big tariffs on them and may even cancel a

(04:49):
meeting that was set between him and Jping Jaiping, Jping.
I'm not sure how to pronounce some men's name. Yeah,
you know who he he's the leader of China, as
Trump is the leader of the United States. In any event,
the markets took a big tumble. All four of the
indicators I was looking at or I usually look at

(05:12):
down roughly a point to nearly two points, and we're
still significantly down just a few minutes ago. Gold fell yesterday,
but was back up nearly sixty bucks an ounce and
well above four thousand dollars announce again. And then oil
down nearly two bucks a barrel. So feel free to

(05:32):
take a nice road trip for the next couple of weeks.
It's not going to cost you an arm in a leg.
I want to move over from there to one of
these because I have I'm guessing. I'm guessing about two
minutes left now, is that correct? Okay, I'm gonna go
over here to some good news that I think it

(05:53):
was good news anyway over in London, all the way
over there. It's not like I had to go there
to get good news. But this is pretty interesting. The
police in London decided, probably for the first time in
a long time, to really dig into a theft of
a woman's cell phone. She insisted that they go look
for this thing, and the good news for her, and
it turns out for everybody in England, was that she

(06:16):
has a tracking device on her phone. It was stolen
close to Heathrow Airport. It doesn't really say exactly where
or how or when, but the phone disappeared there. She
gave them. That gave the police the whereabouts of that phone,
and when they wear about it and found it, it
was in a big old package with about eight hundred

(06:41):
more phones. Now that bust, I would bet, with help
from somebody who wanted to avoid prison, led to raids
on twenty eight different properties where fifteen people were arrested,
and interestingly, interestingly, I don't know why, but I find
it interesting all but one of the people they arrested

(07:02):
Fourteen of the fifteen were women, which took me by surprise.
I guess maybe they're more capable and look more honest
walking away from a scene where something was stolen. Anyway,
fourteen women one guy are in a big old, steaming

(07:22):
heap of trouble. And what London police estimate now is
that about forty percent of the phones and electronic devices
stolen in London were being shipped overseas by that same
group of crooks. Eighty thousand pieces just this past year
from the research they ended up doing and the information

(07:43):
they got from the people who are all probably now
just begging for a way out, and they're going to
roll over on each other phone thiefs. That's so nasty.
I don't know why people. Well, I guess it's easier
than working for a living, I really do. But its
ad that our country is even kind of enabling that. Now,
all right, we got to take a little break here

(08:05):
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Speaker 1 (09:33):
Now they sure don't make them like they used to.
That's why every few months we wash him, check his
fluids and springy on a fresh coat of wax. This
is fifty plus with Dougpike. Welcome back to fifty plus.

(10:01):
Thank you for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Thanks as always for sharing your lunch hour, even though
to date cal since Will is out this week or
out today. Anyway, to date, since we've been doing this
show ten years and we share the lunch hour with everybody,
has anybody ever shared lunch No, No, I don't know why.
I guess they think that we just we're just rolling

(10:23):
in dough over here. Ain't got no problem. I'm just kidding.
We're all right. Don't try to come running up here
with any food. And I know a couple of you
are thinking, you know, that might be kind of fun
to go up there. If you want to come up
and hang out for a few minutes before or after
the show. I suppose I could give you a tour.
I've given tours of this place. It's really it only
takes about three minutes the tour of the space we

(10:45):
have now. Back in the day, one hundred years ago,
we had a lot more space. Anyway, I'm losing track
of where I am here because I need to bring
on to talk about mental illness awareness. Doctor Cindy Wolverton
a licensed clinical psychologist and assistant professor at McGovern Medical School,
where she specializes in jero psychology, which I'm guessing doctor

(11:07):
Wolverton has something to do with seniors. Am I right?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yes, you are correct.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh, thank goodness and apologies for just going off the
rails a minute ago.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, that's okay. It sounds like maybe you gotta get
some lunch and yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm a little hungry. So I like to start with definitions.
But is it even possible to define mental illness in
fewer than several thousand words?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think, I think I can try and do the
best I can women. I think when when we think
about mental illness or mental health conditions, it really refers
to like health conditions that may impact a person's thinking,
how they're feeling, their mood, their behaviors. I think, you know,
when we think about mental health or mental illness, like

(11:50):
it's really like something that you know, a health condition
that's really impacting a person's functioning. So it may result
in like difficulties with managing things that work at home,
changes in like social engagements, relationships. So I think really
like it, you know, considering it as a as a
health condition that's really impacting a person's ability to function.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And most of the time you and I really can't
see it.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Can we.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It's hard to recognize, like the early warning signs of
a mental illness.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Talk about those, Yeah, what are the early sides?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I think, you know, I think while they can differ
from person to person, I think usually some like common
signs might be like a noticeable change in a person's
mood or their energy or even personality. I think sometimes
family members might describe, like you know, their loved one's
personality changing. Sometimes folks might notice their loved one or

(12:47):
friend or family you know, really really starting to withdraw
from others or even withdrawal from like engaging in activities
they usually enjoy doing. Sometimes when we think about depression,
that can that can show as like difficulties with concentrating
or completing daily task, changes in sleep or appetite, feeling

(13:07):
a little bit more irritable or sad or anxious. And
I think the big ones, like especially if a person's
expressing like feelings of hopelessness or worthlessness, or even thoughts
of like self harm or death, those are those are
some really key ones that will really alert us to
something's not going well for this person.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Or are most mental illnesses genetically linked or do they
manifest themselves otherwise?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I think so that it's a common it can be
a combination, right, I think there may be some folks
who have maybe higher risk given genetic history. But we
also think about like the different factors that a person
might be experiencing all throughout their life that may also contribute. So,
especially when working with older individuals, I consider, like a

(13:54):
person's history, what are some of the maybe challenges that
they're experiencing currently. Are there any life stresses that might
be contributing to their current mental health condition? So I
think there's a lot that sort of goes into like
how we can diagnose mental illness.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Doctor Cindy Wolverton here on fifty plus. Does those early
symptoms differ as the patients get older?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, So I think for older individuals, we may hear
they may be more likely to express difficulties with sleep
or physical complaints such as feeling more aches or feeling
more fatigue. Maybe an older individual might report having more
difficulties with memory or concentration, may present the depression may

(14:44):
present as more of like a lack of interest in
the hobbies or social activities or you know, otherwise activities
that the person used to enjoy. And I think when
we were working with older individuals, compared to younger generations,
older folks woen are more likely to describe the those
changes rather than describing themselves as having a depressed mood.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Okay, which which of these two statements is more true?
Aging makes mental illnesses worse or mental illnesses make aging worse.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
I would go with the second one, Okay. I think
that's a common misconception about aging, is that like depression
is a normal part of aging, and that's not true.
We know that that's a huge, like aging misconception that
can actually really be detrimental in a person getting access

(15:36):
to care or even these early signs being recognized by
family or even the older individual themselves or even their doctors.
So I think that's where it's really important to be
aware of like these aging misconceptions that might actually impact
follow up to getting a person care.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Talk about the importance, if you would, of social connection,
staying connected to other people so that you just don't
find yourself isolated and kind of caught up in your
own weird thoughts.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Absolutely, there's a lot of evidence showing that loneliness and
social disconnection is associated with poor mental health. And also
there's a lot of other health outcomes that can can
be negatively impacted by loneliness and social disconnection. So really
staying socially connected is important for mental well being, overall

(16:27):
health wellbeing, et cetera. And that that can mean staying
connected through friendships, family, you know, finding community groups or
volunteering that really helps a person's stay connected, reduce lone
feelings of loneliness, and provides like that, just those really
strong social supports.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
If we haven't if we notice that a friend or
relative is kind of showing signs of mental illness, what's
the right way to bring it up?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I think, I mean, I think you can talk with
someone say hey, I'm worried about how you're doing. Is
there something you know? Is there a way that we
can bring this up with your doctor. There's a lot
of treatments and interventions that have been found to be
really helpful. That's the wonderful thing about like mental illness

(17:14):
is like it can be treated and and there's a
lot of there's medications, psychotherapy, other ways to help address
mental health, and I think, you know, oftentimes there's a
lot of stigma views about engaging a mental health treatment
or having a mental health diagnosis that can sort of
impact a person's engagement in those in those resources.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
And with that as the right way to approach what
what is the wrong way to approach someone you feel
is suffering like this? And there is a wrong way,
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, I think I would stay away from using terms
that are pretty highly stigmatized, like the word crazy. That's
one word I hate to use, you know, I think
that oftentimes can be a deterring factor for a person
to even want to start to open up about how
they're doing.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Just close up right away. Don't tell their cheese has
slid off their cracker. That would be bad.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, there's a lot of understategmatizing statements.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, you can hold that giggle back because I I
shouldn't even have said that, talk about resources that are available,
got about a couple of minutes left.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, of course, as I mentioned earlier, like there's a
lot of supports for folks if they're noticing these changes
for themselves or for their loved ones. I think, you know,
folks can start to talk, have that conversation with their
primary care doctor who can even evaluate further and make
helpful recommendations. There's psychotherapy. We have evidence based therapies, which

(18:41):
is a fancy way of saying that like, these therapies
have been found to be really affected. There's been a
lot of research and work done to evaluate these types
of therapies and they can really address the number of
mental health concerns. Some examples might be like cognitive behavioral therapy,
acceptance and commitment therapy, just to name a few of those.
I also, sorry, no.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Go ahead, go ahead. You also what I was just going.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
To also recommend that that folks talk with their doctors
about what their doctor recommend recommends that might include medications
to address mental health concerns. Also think it's helpful for
folks to find ways to continue to engage in life.
So whether that means like re engaging in hobbies they
used to enjoy, our activities, staying you know, physically active,

(19:27):
maintaining a healthy diet routine. Those social supports are really
important and so you know, I think they're continuing to
foster those and take care of those would be really
important as well.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Doctor Cindy Wolverton. Thank you so very much. There's just
so much to unpack here, really, and I wish we
had an entire hour to give to this. I may
try to get you back on sometime soon.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
If you got in mind, of course, I don't mind
at all. Thank you so much, Doug.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well, thank you by take care all right, We got
to take a break, sadly. Yeah, that's a that's a
good discussion to have, and fortunately this country has really
come a long ways toward understanding and dealing with mental
illness and not just kind of try to sweep it
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Speaker 1 (22:07):
This is fifty plus with Dougpike.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
All right, welcome back to fifty plus. Thank you all
for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. Right here in Houston,
global hub of the Energy Wheel. As a matter of fact,
in this segment, we're gonna talk about how how world
events impact the cost of energy we use in our
homes and to help can't think of anybody better than
David Holt from the Consumer Energy Alliance.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Welcome back, David, Hey, thanks for having me you bet.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Man, my pleasure. So, even here in Houston, i'd guess
the average person knows very little about how energy just
magically becomes what it is and find its way into
our lives. So briefly, starting with oil and gas, let's
say explain kind of the journey of petrochemicals from deep
underground to a gas pump or a stove.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
A great question. So I think we all know oil
is a global commodity, right, So you know, you pull
oil out of the ground all over the world, you
ship it to you know, the United States is the
number one oil consuming nation on Earth, so a lot
of that obviously comes here. And the price of gasoline
and the price of diesel is first and foremost dictated

(23:22):
by the global price of oil. So when oil prices
are lower, when we're producing more oil here at home
and good old USFA, oil prices tend to be lower.
So when oil prices are lower, obviously gasoline diesel prices
are lower. Then then you go from oil in the
ground or ship it where it's going to the refinery
where that oil is refined gasoline and diesel, then you

(23:47):
ship truck are used pipelines to get the gasoline diesel
to markets all around the country. So all that is
also regulated by largely federal regulator and laws passed by
Congress and signed by the President. And the more regulations,
the more red tape, the more redundant regulations, really frankly,

(24:09):
the more unnecessary regulations. Then that adds to the cost
of gasoline and diesel as well. And then you know,
the final thing is is taxes. So states around the
country have various taxes. The federal government has various taxes
on the price of oil and diesel, and in some cases,
like in California and New Jersey and New York, those
taxes are pretty egregious, frankly, in other states like Texas

(24:32):
and elsewhere, the prices the taxes are less. So all
that goes into what you see at the pumps, you know,
and right now here in Texas where you can find oil, sorry, gasoline, diesel,
gasolene in particularly about two dollars and fifty cents a gallon.
In California right now, they're paying almost five dollars a gallon,
double the price here here that we're seeing in the

(24:52):
great state of Texas.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
If I lived out there, so help me God, tomorrow morning,
I would buy the last full tank of gas. I'd
every buy in California, and not just driv.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Frustration is high. So and you know, think about it
this way too, you know, gasoline and particularly diesel, every
diesel truck. Every time we order something online and we
have it delivered to our house. Sure, all the stuff
we're buying at the grocery store. All that is delivered
by diesel trucks. So when diesel prices are higher, the
price of every commodity goes up. So the more we

(25:23):
can put downward pressure, uh, because of good solid energy policies,
lower cost energy, lower cost gasoline, diesel, then that puts
downward pressure on the prices commodity. So not only in
California they pay more for gasoline and diesel, they're paying
more for every single thing they buy.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, it's a good point, and there's.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Really no hope for the future for them to you know,
see prices come down like we're seeing here at home.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, they built their own boat on that one, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Let me you know, it's a great example to the
rest of us of what not to do. Right, So
whatever California does, elected officials need to do the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Turn the dial one hundred and eighty degrees and just
push forward. So a quick question, because I haven't asked
it in a long time, and I don't know the
answer for sure. Has the cost of refining risen in
proportionately to the cost of everything else or is it
greater or a little bit less? I mean, how's the
cost of refining crude into gasoline and all the hundreds

(26:23):
of other products that come from a barrel of oil.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
How is that wor you know, great question, and really
the cost of refining now is dictated by regulation. Okay,
how hard it is to get permits from the us EPA.
How hard it is to actually build or expand refineries
in the United States. In the early nineteen eighties, we
had my numbers aren't exactly right, You get the point.

(26:47):
We had about three hundred and fifty refineries around the country.
Now we have less than one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh wow, okay, so.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Just thinking of that as a big bottleneck. So it's
you know, the refineries are much more sophisticated, a lot
of times larger than they used to be. The refining
process has gotten a lot better. Gasoline and diesel are
much cleaner because of some federal regulations that were really
sensible and we all support, because you know, smog and

(27:16):
air pollution in big cities was at one time caused
a lot by you know, emissions coming from car but
that has really been cleaned up. It's ninety nine point
nine percent cleaner today than it was in the early
nineteen seventies. That's a great, great story for US leadership
and environmental protection. But because of federal regulations, critically those
that we saw kind of in the previous administration, the

(27:38):
cost of refineries, their cost of refining product, gasoline, diesel, petrochemicals, chemicals,
all the other things that come out of the refinery
has gone up. So you've seen a little bit of
an increase in our at least upward pressure in gasoline, diesel,
and then refined products. But because of ingenuity, because of

(28:00):
good technology in the United States, and because we're producing
so much oil here at home, that's allowed us really
to see gasoline and diesel prices come down a lot,
well over a dollar fifty a gallon for most of
the country. In the last two two and a half years.
The Biden administration saw really high gasoline diesel prices which
led to a lot of inflationary pressure, and we're seeing

(28:22):
a lot of that getting relaxed today.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
David Holme from the Consumer Energy Alliance on fifty plus
here and as briefly as you can explain to this
audience the difference between WTI and Brent and all the
different crews from around the world, and how they differ
in what it takes to refine them.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
You know, it's really kind of the simple way of
saying it is, it's kind of the distribution costs. Right,
You've got some Sometimes you're pricing oil in London. Sometimes
West Texas Intermediate is WTI, and that's pricing crude oil
out of the Permian. And these were the the traditional

(29:00):
big trading hubs for oil over time. So the cost
of distribution of distribution coming from European nations to costs
from West Texas WTI is usually a little bit less expensive.
But that gives you kind of a just a benchmark
of what global oil prices are, and then that you
can kind of extrapolate what that would maybe mean for gasoline,

(29:23):
diesel and other commodities.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's perfect. That's enough of that, I think. So based
on what your.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Simple people, some will say he didn't do a very
good ob of that, but I was trying to keep
it quick.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
No, you did great. So based on what you know
right now, where do you see consumer prices for energy
headed in the short term, Well.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
For gasoline diesel, I still think we've got some flexibility.
I think we can see some prices come down a
little bit more in the you know, the next three
six twelve months. Electricity prices is a is a different animal.
We're getting a lot of pressure from data centers for AI,
a lot of electricity demand going up up, kind of
almost unprecedented in the history of the United States, the

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amount of electricity demands that we're seeing in the next
three four fifteen years, like twelve to fifteen percent increased
need for electricity between now and twenty twenty eight, forty
percent increase between now and twenty forty, all dictated by
AI and data centers. So we've got to power that.
We've got to meet that power, which means really more

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natural gas, which is a permanent's always available what's called
base load power. You can peak it up or peak
it down depending on need. And then we're gonna have
to add nuclear. Nuclear has got to be part of
our energy solution going forward. When and solar we'll have
a role, there'll be around there a little bit, but
you've got to have that base load always available power,

(30:46):
which is really natural gas or nuclear. Those are your
only two choices. So policymakers need to get serious about streamlining, permitting,
streamlining typelines, transmission, getting this new electricity to market. Make
sure that we don't put ourselves in a situation where
everyday Americans have blackouts, are brown out.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
With five Why can't we keep the lights on?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
You know, I'll tell you the number one issue is
policy makers.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
It is really bad energy policy that went too long
on intermittent power wind and solar without creating enough opportunity
for that base load power, which is natural gas. You've
got to have them. Both wind and solar can't peak
up when those hot summer days of those cold winter nights,
you can't. You can't make more wind, and the battery

(31:39):
storage technology is just not quite where it needs to
be to you know, uh uh peak up when when
it needs to so uh when and solar have a role.
The market is wants more wind and solar, but you
can't do it without good old nature gas and that's
obviously produced here at home. And then eventually, very quickly,
we have to get serious about nuclear.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Old Consumer Consumer Energy Alliance, Consumer Energy Alliance dot org. Man,
thank you so much. It's really good stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Thank you, David Dog always a pleasure man.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
You bet we'll do it again. Audios. All Right, we
got to take another little break, don't we Col's over
there taking care of business for me and keeping me
in line. It seems to be working pretty well. Ut
Hells Institute on Aging is a collaborative effort among quite
a few people, more than a thousand actually, providers who

(32:31):
have gone back and gott an additional instruction, additional knowledge
and whatever on top of whatever it took them to
get their diploma. And what they've learned is how to
apply that specific knowledge whether it's your eyes, or your lungs,
or your blood or whatever your bones. Specifically, two seniors
and what makes us tick, what keeps us going? Great

(32:53):
people to see. Most of them are in the medical
centers you might well imagine, but there also is opportunity
in outlining clinics and places where these providers go at
least a couple of days a week so that people
like you and me who don't want to go to
the med center because it's so crowded and congested a
little bit scary for some of us, you don't have to.

(33:14):
You can see somebody out where you live. Go to
the website first, look at all they do ut dot
edu slash aging. Then try to get into a consultation
get an appointment with someone from that organization who can
see you and make sure you get better faster ut
dot edu slash aging.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Old guys rule, and of course women never get old
if you want to avoid sleeping on the couch.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think that sounds like a good bread. Fifty plus continues.
Here's more with Doug.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
All right, welcome back. We're running a little bit short
on time here in this last segment, and I want
to get to four different things, all of which pertain
to or have included in their theme somehow animals. I'm
not sure where to start start. I'll start with the
shortest one. Studies found that bats cal sometimes catch and

(34:17):
eat birds in mid air.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Grab it and I guess on the way to the ground,
you just take a few chunks and just drop it
and go get another one. I would presume that those
are maybe not the little bats that come out from
the underpass down on Alan Parkway, but maybe so. I
actually went past that place yesterday. In more animal news,

(34:45):
there was a story that broke a couple of days ago.
I think there were videos online all over the place
hyping this new service that allegedly used carrier pigeons to
deliver marijuana to people in New York. It's a joke,
but there were a whole bunch of people. Look at you,
wire you nod in your head, Birds of flying High

(35:06):
dug so well played, well played, cal Thank you very much.
In another one, which one of these do I want
to do? Holy col I titled this one get a
Different Doctor. And the reason I did that is because
an old Chinese woman, it says here, was hospitalized after

(35:26):
to treat her back pain caused by a herniated disc.
She swallowed eight live frogs. That's not how you do that.
This is how you do fifty plus. We'll be back
again next week. Thanks for listening, Audios