October 25, 2025 • 44 mins
Rosey checks in with Guardians top pitching prospect Daniel Espino who's future looks bright in 2026 and beyond. Also, a look back at Gavin Williams near No-Hitter in New York in this week's Game Of The Week segment. That's all on this edition of Guardians Weekly with Jim Rosenhaus on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to Guardian's Weekly. Jim Rosen House along
with you this weekend from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland.
Guardians in the midst of their offseason and Major League
Baseball just about there. But the Fall Classic World Series
began on Friday night Dodgers and Blue Jays, and we
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will have much more on that series in our final
segment of the show coming up a little bit later on.
Also in the second half of our show today, we
will have another look back at one of the great
games of the twenty twenty five season, our weekly feature
here during the offseason leading into our Thanksgiving and Holiday break,
and this week we take a look back at the
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near no hitter from Gavin Williams in New York against
the Mets, a day where Williams flirted with history, only
to see it go by the boards with one down
in the ninth inning as he allowed a home run
to Wan Soto that broke up not only the no
hit bit, but the shutout bit as well. But a
great game, just the same for Williams, and we will
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relive the tension and energy that day from Gavin Williams
and the rest of the ball club in New York
on a near no hitter that's coming up in the
second half of our show. In just a little bit,
we will hear from Daniel Espino. Keep that name top
of mind as we head into spring training twenty twenty six.
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If you follow this team closely, especially the prospects, you
know the name Daniel Espino, one of the top pitching
prospects in all of baseball, who has battled severe shoulder
injuries the past several seasons.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But now he's back.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
On the mound in game action in the Arizona Fall League,
and we'll talk to him about how that has gone.
It has gone very well, and we'll get his thoughts
on that in our next segment, But first we'll take
a time. I'll come back with Daniel Lispino after this
short break on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network, the.
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Speaker 2 (03:36):
Welcome back, It's Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you
as we join you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland.
We won't say these are the hot stove shows yet.
We'll wait for the World Series to be completed before
we do that. But for the Guardians, they are are
off season shows, and throughout this stretch here leading into
Thanksgiving and a break that will take from Thanksgiving through
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the first of the year, we're going to really focus
on some of the young prospects who are in action,
first in the Arizona Fall League and then in other
spots as well, and kind of bring you up to
date on their whereabouts, how they're doing, and none more
important potentially for the Guardians than Daniel Espino. The youngster
is now twenty four years of age of former first
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round draft pick by the Guardians. That was back in
the twenty nineteen draft. He was a first round pick
twenty fourth overall out of high school in Georgia. He
had been committed to go to LSU. A flamethrower who
really hasn't had much of an opportunity to get on
the mound in the minor leagues. You go back to
that twenty nineteen campaign in between the twenty twenty COVID
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season and then a knee issue that held him up
two shoulder surgeries. He was limited to just thirty three
appearances during that time from twenty nineteen through this season,
before he got back on the mound four columb at
the tail end of the season and now he is
throwing in the Arizona Fall League. He has made three starts,
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just one inning in each start, as they have brought
him along slowly. But as you'll see and here as
we get going with our interview with Daniel Lispino, he
is so excited with how things have gone, but just
a recap on his career, mentioning he went to high
school in Georgia, but he's from Panama. Moved to Georgia
during his sophomore year of high school, lived with the
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coaches at the school that he went to, the Georgia
Premier Academy in Statesboro, Georgia. Felt it would be a
better spot for him to reach that ultimate goal of
making it to the major leagues, and the Guardians saw
that the Indians at the time and made him a
first round draft pick. But again after a pretty quick
rise where he was pitching at double a achron in
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twenty twenty two, he had to shut it down after
just four appearances with the Rubber Ducks, and then it
was a knee issue that stopped him. Then then shoulder woes.
Looked like he was on the way back, but last
year another shoulder surgery for him, and then this year
a very slow rate of return, but all calculated by
the medical staff for the Guardians and also that rehab
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staff out in Goodyear, Arizona. They did great work in
making sure that Espino was patient, built things up slowly
and now he's back, folks. He had a really strong
outing earlier this week in Arizona in the Arizona Fall
League just the one inning. Again, He's starting games going
one inning. But he struck out the side in his
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most recent outing and came close, if not touching one
hundred miles an hour, depending on what radar readings you
look at. So the velocity is back, the excitement is back.
And when we caught up with Daniel earlier this week
after his start for the Arizona Fall League entry in Surprise,
he said he is ecstatic with how things are going.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Hey, Jim, I'm feeling really good, man.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
He's good to actually talk about basse all and you know,
not so much about my health and like all that stuff.
So I enjoying my time, you know, really grateful to
to want have the opportunity to be in the Folague
and the other one.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Just to step on the mount and you know, just pitch.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
That's that's something that that I've been dreaming about, just
to take the ball and just go out there and
have fun and compete.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And we get a chance to see the line scores
of your outings. But but you know what, what makes
you a good picture? And do you feel like things
are coming along the way you would hoped once you
got back on the mount and got healthy.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yes, sir, Like I never had like doubts on it.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
It's just for me more repetition and you know, getting
back into into a routine and back into into competing
and you know, like game situations and stuff like that.
But since I was throwing bullpens, my stuff was was there,
and you know that's that's a big different mentally on
the way that I'm attacking and all that. Just to
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have that trust about, you know, just going out there
and knowing that I can throw my four pitches in
any situation.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
That that gives me.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
More to believe in myself more and not to think about, oh,
I don't know how this is going to feel or
something like that.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
So yeah, I will say like.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
It's been more about getting into into a routine and
just going out there and competing and getting that feeling back.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Daniel Espino joining us April of twenty twenty two until
this past August was the time it took for you
to get back on the mount and even on into
September that amount of time away. Take us back to
your start with Columbus or the outing with Columbus, when
you finally got back on the mount. How emotional was
that for you, because it seemed like as much for
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you as it was for your teammates too, to see
you out there.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah, you know, I've being surrounded by really great people
from the medical staff in Arizona, in Cleveland, and also
just my teammates. They've been like really really supportive, and
also my family that they were there. So when I
got the the when they told me I was starting,
you know, I was like, okay, Like it's back to
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that feeling to to to you know, excitement about pitching
and and and everything that I've gone through.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
It makes it a little bit more, you know, like surreal.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
To me, Like, Okay, I'm actually doing this because it's
been two years that I've been dreaming about just taking
the ball and going out there and competing. But I
was really happy with the way I handled it as
far as like mentally, how prepared I was, knowing all
the preparations that I've done over the last few years,
and knowing that that that that I that I belong there,
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you know that that I belong and throwing that was
really exciting just to throw in front of my my
my family and and you know, to to know the
support of throughout organization. It's just you felt that it
was it wasn't just a win for me, but a
win for the organization and to the people around me.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
When you talk to people in the organization, they're always
optimistic that that you would come back and be able
to pitch healthy again. How about for you though, even
as you work through it and were there times where
you thought, man, it's so slow, it's taking such a
long time. Did you ever think that that maybe it
wouldn't come around and that you'd have to think about
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something else.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, you know, never, you never, Like the first surgery
happened is just like, okay, I want to get stronger,
I want to be stronger than what it was before.
And you have that approach and then you find out
that you have to get surgery again. And of course,
like there were some tough moments, not only on the
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baseball side of it, but also on my personal side
of it, some tough moments, some nights that I couldn't sleep,
and you know, negative tough that that that you know,
as a human being is normal to have. But that's
when when you know the support system that I have
and the people around me, just relying on them and
also just trusting that that theres and birth days are coming.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
And I feel like as a team.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
With the guys in in in in Arizona, with the
rehab group and everybody, it was just like, let's take
it day by day, let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
And that's something that we did and I feel like
that helped me a ton, just to take it day
by day and not no matter how much time I
was I was missing, and just going out there and
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and and just taking it a little by little, step
by step like a baby.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
You know, is tough.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's not easy, especially those summer days here in Arizona,
they don't help a lot. But just knowing that where
theres are coming and too to be able to throw
right now, it just puts in perspective like everything that
I've gone through. And you can feel bad about yourself
whenever you find out that you have to be sidelined
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or that's that's normal, but it's the way that you
get up and the way that that that you go
out there and the approach that you have and knowing
that also you can make an impact in the people
around you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You mentioned the group out in Arizona in goodyear, and
you spent probably way more time than you would like
out there over the course of the past couple of years.
But there's been others out there like a Shane Bieber,
Ben Lively and others who have have been on that
rehab front. Does it help having some major leaguers there
and and others who can kind of push you along
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and and help you get through the tough days?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Of course, yes, you know it is.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
It shows how dedicate everybody is. And having chained and
having travel staff and behind me and just chairing the
locker room with them, you know, it gave me a.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Better perspective about things and just some.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Like talks that we had throughout like the rehab process
and all that, it just helped me to understand and
also like to take it day by day.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
And also they.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Never they never doubted about me, you know, like they really.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Show their support.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
They really show like, okay, like you're gonna do it,
You're gonna get through it is there's somebody that's.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Gonna do it. It is you. And they were really.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
They expressed that, like the talks that I had with them,
like they were like Okay, you're gonna You're gonna get
through this. Like if there's somebody that's gonna do it
is you. Obviously hearing that from the side young winner,
and hearing that for from Trevor Stephen, like you start
to believe that. So that's also like really really really
helped me and I really I have a really good
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relationship with them and all that. So yeah, it was
easy to have them and learned a lot from them,
not only from the mental side of the game, but
also the competing side of the game. How they approached
their work every single day, how they approach their booking
session and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Daniel Espino joining us uh three starts in in Arizona,
and in today's day and age, good news travels fast,
and it sounded like your start this week was a
good one. Velocity. Obviously, there's so much more to pitching
than velocity, but that's been a big calling card for you.
And when you get into the upper nineties and close
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to one hundred, what does that tell you about where
you are and where you could be headed here the
rest of the fall and then on in in the
spring training.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
It just tells me that I'm ready, you know, It's
been pretty consistent to me. I've been in the upper nineties,
pretty consistent in my last starts and also in my book,
in my live sessions and all that. So he just
tells me that I'm ready that that that, you know,
I'm shouldn't be worried about like how my health is
going to be, you know. But I'm just enjoying myself.
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I'm just going out there having fun. And that's all
I can ask for. Is not so much about like
what I can do, what do I need to prove
or you know, worry about like twenty twenty six and
the years on and spring training and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Like I'm healthy, you know, and I'm throwing.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So that's all I can ask for, and that's all
I ask God, like to give me the help that
I'm going to take care of the rest. And yeah,
that's kind of like the mentality that I have and
been here obviously, like facing really good talent, talented theaters
and stuff like that. It's a good test for me
to know to only build myself confident that.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
I can do this, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And maybe it's not a fair question based on what
you just said, but have you thought about about what
your role might be when when you do get to
spring training and they start to figure out where you
land to start the season. Is it as a starting
pitcher again or do you do you make that move
to the bullpen? And has that even been discussed at
this point in time.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I think everybody is just excited right now that that
I'm pitching and that I'm that I'm getting out there
every day, I'm touching the mound and just throwing the
ball and also recovering.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well. I think that's where the focus is right now
for the role.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
I've been starting pitching since I was in high school
and that's something that I've done my whole career. That's
something that I would love to do and to help
the team in that in that in that sense, but
at the end, like I'm just kicking everything in perspective,
just just being healthy, going out there doing my job.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
That's all I can take care of.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, it is great to see you pitching in game
action at UH and I know that's been a long
wait for you and Daniel. Thanks so much for taking
the time today and talking about your progress and continue
good health and success.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Jim easy kid to root for right there. Daniel Espino
one of the really nice young men in this game,
and he has been through a lot. He can hear
it in his voice, but so excited with what's going
on right now and how he's feeling, most importantly, and
he is certainly a name to keep an eye on
in spring training twenty twenty six. Stay with us when
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we come back. We'll visit and hear about the exploits
of another hard thrower, Gavin Williams, who's at the major
league level, had a breakthrough season this year, and there
was no better day for Williams than the day that
he almost threw a no hitter in New York against
the Mets. Will relive that game shortly as we continue
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Welcome back to Guardian's weekly Jimmersenhouse along with you from
Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Great Dabby with us for
baseball talk on the radio. Of course, there is still
Major League Baseball being played as the World Series is
underway in Toronto between the Blue JAYSA and the Dodgers. Meanwhile,
Guardians in postseason mode as they begin to get things
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organized and prepared for the best roster they can put
together for twenty twenty six. And you have to figure
at the top of that starting rotation will be Gavin Williams,
and he is the subject of this week's Game of
the Week. One of the great games of the twenty
twenty five season was certainly the near no hitter by
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Williams back in early August in New York against the Mets,
and we get right to it. It turned out to
be the Gavin Williams Show, Game three of a three
game series a Wednesday afternoon, after the Guardians had taken
the first two games of the series, they were looking
for the sweep of the Mets, and it was Williams
on the mound shutting down the Mets. In the first inning,
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Gavin Williams fastball, sinker, cutter, curve, slider, six six two
fifty twenty six years of age. He fires Lindor Rockets,
went up the middle, knocks the glove off, Williams picks it,
throws and he got Lindor.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh what a play. The two to swing in a
liner caught by Williams back up the middle. Gavin Williams
like a National League All Star Kalie.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Two saves and they were beauties.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And then the offense gave him a lead in the
second inning thanks to David Fry.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
The pitch hit a ton deep left center field.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
This ball is gone.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
David Fry with his sixth.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Home run, a line drive home run to the seats
in left center and Cleveland's got the early one nothing lead.
And for the Guardians, they are playing right now with
as much confidence as they have had all year long.
And if they get David Fry going look out in.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The third with a man on, it was on hell
Martinez extending the Guardian's advantage.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Now the set now the one one swung on hammered
deep left field.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
This ball gone on?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
How Martinez with his tenth home run, three nothing Cleveland,
a laser to left, and Martinez continues to thrive when
facing left handed pitching, and the Guardians have shocked city
field with home runs the last two innings, looking for
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a sweep in Queens.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And then Williams went back to work with a three
run lead.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Two down, nobody on in the Mets third payoff pitch, God,
I'm swinging at a curve in the dirt, Gavin Williams
with his first one two three inning where there wasn't
any deep counts per se. Outside of Soto, fans are
booing early, three nothing Cleveland after three.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Here's his one two pitch swung on and that's line
to left, but Kwan is there and the left fielder
makes the catch. Side retired. Williams still with no hit
baseball through five. We add to the sixth, three nothing Cleveland.
In the sixth inning, the Guardians added on another run
with a big two out hit from Gabrielarius.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Cleveland trying to get four games above five hundred for
the first time in almost two months June eighth, the
last time they were plus four.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Now the two to two.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Swung on trail toward the gap deep rank center. It'll
get down, take a bounce, go up against the wall.
Santana's got a chance to score. Bobbled out there by
Soda heading around to third, going in with a slide
as Czarius and the Guardians laid forth to nothing. Gabriel
Larius Knox in Carlos Santana he found the gap in
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right center, and then Soto when he picked up the
ball after it ricocheted off the wall, bobbled it and
then enabled Santana to score from first with ease, Arius
able to go to third. It is going to be
a generous triple for Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Arius, and then it was Gavin Williams from there on,
as his memorable afternoon in New York continued, Gavin Williams
three strangouts, three walks, but as not giving up a hit.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
The pitch swung on a week bouncer to the second
basement Chinhai hop handled by Rochio. He runs the ball
the first a fifteen feet away underhand flip and the
boo birds keep coming out. Gavin Williams into the motion
and the pitch to Soto swung on, grounded up the middle.
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The shortstop. Arius throws over two down the booze get louder.
Here's pain Alonzo the payoff swinging a jam job role
the third Ramirez has plenty of time, throws across the diamond.
Six no hit innings for Gavin Williams. Gavin Williams rocks
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into his livery here it comes, swung on a week
choppered a second chest time bounce handled. Rokio throws out McNeil.
Seven no hit innings for Gavin Williams, four nothing. Cleveland
eighth is next first round pick out of East Carolina University.
Lets it fly, swinging a little dribbler the first even
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with the bank Santana Club steps on the bag, no
hitter stays intact. Gavin Williams three outs away from putting
his name in the record book.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So onto the ninth nning, the game went with Gavin
Williams flirting with history. Nobody and the Guardian's bullpen was up.
As Williams faced Francisco Lindor to start the inning.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
The big right hander.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Lets it fly, swinging ANFC got him on a curveball.
Glendor Is strikeout victim number six, two outs away from.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
History, and then it was the always dangerous, especially against Cleveland,
Juan Soto coming to the plate.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Gavin into the motion, the one oh swung on pounded
deep center field, Martinez track wall leaps, HiT's off the wall,
Karen's back toward the infield, and now the umpires are
saying it hit the back wall and Karen back onto
the field. Go home run and hit the banner's eye
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above the orange strength. And Juan Soto does it again
to Cleveland, a solo homer to dead center, his twenty
six no hit or gone shutout, gone.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It was oh so close to history for Gavin Williams.
He'd get Pete Alonzo to fly out for the second
out in the inning, and then Hunter Gattis came on
to close out an unforgettable ballgame. Now the one to
one swung on skide in the air to center.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
This will do it. Martinez has camped under it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Bolka and the Cleveland Guardians almost got into the history
books along with Gavin Williams. But you know what, their
second sweep in the Big Apple in thirty five years.
Pretty darn good consolation prize, isn't it. Cleveland sweeps the Mets,
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winning today four to one. The only hit a solo
homer des center by Juan Soto off Gavin Williams with
one down in the night. What a performance by Gavin Williams.
What an incredible series by these Cleveland guardians.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And moments after the game, we caught up with the
big right hander out of North Carolina, Gavin Williams, to
talk about his incredible outing. Came close to throwing a
no hitter. It hasn't happened here since nineteen eighty one
for Cleveland. Gavin early on looked like command issues. But man,
you settled in in a hurry. And when did you
feel like you really had your good stuff gone?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I had one tough inning. I was out of the
delivery a little bit. I mean, Carl, BG and Joe
they all came down there and said something to me.
And then after that, I think third fourth inning felt
a garuve.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You had not pitched past seven or seven? Was your
longest outing in your career? You go out for the ninth.
Tell us about the emotions taking them out with a
chance at a no hitter.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
Yeah, I mean, especially when Heggie came out there, I
had I had shields running down my arms. Just giving
nine innings to the guys the bullpen. They've done a
lot for me in the past, so just trying to
help them out as much as possible is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
You mentioned Austin Hedges. What did he mean today?
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Man, he's unbelievable that rough ending the second inning or
whatever it was. He came out there, told me literally
told me pick up the body language that he didn't
want to see it again. And I mean he helped
me through the whole day. So props with him. And
you kept going after allowing the home run. What was
that like to try and keep going after something like
that happens on such a potentially historic day. Yeah, I
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mean Sota, he's good. Uh, I got him a couple
of times, and I guess he knew it was coming,
so uh, put a good swing on it. I mean,
just trying to finish the games and none of the
bullpen guys come out there, but it didn't work out
that way.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, having great going today. Thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Then the following day, his catcher on that Wednesday afternoon
was Austin Hedges, who said a chance for a no
hitter is just as exciting for the catcher as it
is for the man on the mound.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Yeah, I mean, uh, you know when you're when you're
back there catching you just there's a lot of homework
that goes on and you know, you want to see
your your your boy on the mound have as much
success as possible and anytime you can, you know, contribute
to you know, I mean it's something like a no
hitter and do you know something that goes down in
history that you know, you get to have forever. It's
(28:59):
just one of those things that I think all catchers, uh,
they take a lot of pride in that, and uh,
you know it's pretty cool to get close.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Naturally, he gave you a lot of credit, especially so
early in the game. He said, you came out and
had a really important mound visit, and what did you
tell him that maybe you saw that that wasn't good
early on that he was able to clean up.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
I mean, I don't know anything about pitching mechanics or
how to throw a ball like that, So everything I
say is just more like psychological. Just just challenge him
to respond, to respond to how it's going right now
in a you know, in a in a positive way,
because you know, we were losing some some of our
command and I just wanted him to be able to, uh,
(29:38):
you know, move on to the next pitch and uh,
you know, not look not look frustrated, and keep his
keep his demeanor and keep his confidence out there.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
What was the ninth inning like? Going out to the
going out to the field for the ninth when he
has that opportunity.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
For you, it's a very nerve wracking, exciting, you know.
Just uh I've never never, never been a part of
a no hitter going into the ninth before, so it
was pretty cool. Uh, you know, especially in a place
like New York and you know we're about to go
face Lindor Soto and Alonzo, so uh, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It was.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
It was more exciting than anything, but uh, pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Any regrets at all how the ninth inning played out
strategy wise or anything like that, or do you feel
like he got beat with his best stuff?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:26):
I feel like he got beat with his best stuff.
I mean, hindsight's always twenty twenty, you know, whether it's
a almost no hitter or just any game. I'm always
second guessing myself and if anything doesn't go the way
that we want it to, just trying to be more
prepared for for the next time. You know, you know,
(30:47):
learning from from your failures is you know, one of
the biggest things in in game calling. So uh, you know,
definitely learn some things. But once again, like you got
to go out there and make a decision and about
eight seconds and in usually leaning on your pitcher's strength.
And you know, I thought Gavin made a good pitch
and Soda made a better swig.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Also, manager Steven Vogue talked to Hammy about the near
historic day in New York.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
First off, when did you start thinking no hitter watching
Gavin Williams or did you Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I was thinking about it the whole time. I thought,
you know, you're always paid attention to that. I have
my little not superstitions, but stitions, and we hadn't given
up a hit. And it really doesn't start to feel
real until you get kind of into the fifth and sixth.
You know, you've gone two times through the order. Here
comes the third and so when he kept rattling up
outs right on the bouts, I'm staring at that pitch
count wishing it could go down and go back in
(31:41):
time and take a few pitches away from the first
few innings. But you're thinking about it the whole time.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And it was.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It was a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
How about the fact you had nobody warming up at
any point in that game, including going into the ninth inning.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
How come well one as a manager who had never
been through a game like that before.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't know the rules.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I don't know if I'm allowed to talk to Carl,
I don't know if I'm allowed to talk to alb
I don't know if I'm allowed to even think about
it out loud. So I didn't say a word to
anybody the whole game. I was just sitting there stewing.
I'm like, well, they're not talking to me. I'm not
talking to them. We're just gonna let this thing ride.
And then it became apparent as soon as we scored
that fourth run. It bought us a little more cushion
because then I didn't have to think about how do
(32:21):
we win the game at any point until they scored
a runner, until they got two runners on, I didn't
have to think about how are we going to win
this game. I could only think about Gavin and trying
to get this no hitter. And so the credit the
offense for continuing to add on because that allowed me
a little bit of mind space.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Now, there was one of the memorable afternoons of baseball
for the Guardians in twenty twenty five, the near no
hitter or Gavin Williams against the Mets in early August.
Stay with us, We'll I have some final thoughts after
this time out on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio network, the.
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Speaker 7 (33:04):
I'm a biomedical researcher.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
The kids just weren't impressed.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
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Speaker 7 (33:08):
Embarrassed? And I knew it would be a fireman.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
It's always a fireman. It's a cliche, but a crowd favorite.
He had an accent everything.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
I can't compete with that.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
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Science Fair project?
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Hope not.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
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Welcome back to Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you
from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. As we get rolling
with our final segment of this week's show, we take
a look at the World Series twenty twenty five, our
last live baseball at the major league level until spring training,
and it's the Dodgers in blue. Did you have that
on your dance card as they've headed into the playoffs?
(34:04):
I think a lot of people may have, as both
teams very highly regarded. Certainly the Dodgers, I think everyone's
pick to not only reach the World Series, but win
the World Series, and they may yet do that. But
look for the Blue Jays as the series got underway
last night to be kind of that born in the
side for the Dodgers, as the Blue Jays certainly carrying
(34:25):
a lot of momentum after a thrilling seven game American
League Championship series as they eliminated the Mariners on that
dramatic Game seven thanks to the home run heroics of
George Springer. So a couple of news and notes on
the World Series things to keep an eye on in
terms of repeat champions, the Dodgers trying to do just
(34:46):
that after winning the World Series over the Yankees a
year ago, it's been twenty five years since there's been
a repeat champion in Major League Baseball. That's when the
Yankees won three straight nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine and
two thousand and That is the longest repeat champion drought
in the four major men's sports. They've all gone shorter
(35:09):
stretches without a repeat champion the Major League Baseball has,
so the Dodgers trying to put that to bed if
they can. The Dodgers the first reigning World champion to
return even to the World Series since the two thousand
and nine Phillies. They had defeated Tampa Bay in two
thousand and eight and then played the Yankees and lost
to New York in two thousand and nine. The Dodgers
(35:32):
with a sweep of the Brewers to get there in
the National League Championship Series. And I mentioned that it
was the Blue Jays with a seven game victory over
Seattle in the American League Championship Series. So what does
that mean in terms of teams that swept a series
and then take on a team that went seven games.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Who does it favor? Well?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Since the best of seven format was instituted for the
League Championship Series, there have only been four other instances
where one of those series resulted in a sweep and
the other went seven games, And in each of the
prior four, every time the team that went seven games
to win their league championship series went on to defeat
(36:17):
the team that swept in their league championship series. So
you would say the Blue Jays have the upper hand
heading into this one. And if you look back at
it nineteen eighty eight, that classic Dodger team then nobody
thought would do much. They eliminated the Mets in seven
to get to the World Series and then defeated that
juggernaut Oakland Athletics team with the Bash Brothers and the
(36:40):
Big Upsit there, the Dodgers the world champs, thanks in
large part to the Kirk Gibson walk off home run.
In the World Series opener two thousand and six, the
Cardinals upended the Tigers. The Cardinals were the team that
needed seven games to get to the World Series. In
the National League Championship Series, who can forget two thousand
and seven Cleveland, it would be them that would take
(37:02):
on the Rockies, who had swept the Diamondbacks in the NLCS,
But the Guardians lost a dramatics series to the Boston
Red Sox, and the Red Sox went on after that
seven game American League Championship Series to win the World
Series over Colorado. And the last time it happened, Giants,
they were able to defeat Texas in twenty twelve after
(37:24):
needing a seven game National League Championship Series to get there,
and then they went on and defeated the Texas Rangers
in the World Series. So who knows if it happens again,
A lot of people think it would be an upset
as the Blue Jays certainly the underdog heading into the
World Series this time around. That's going to do it
for this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks
(37:47):
to Brian Motse for helping to put together our show
each and every week until next week. This is Jim
Rosenhaus reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly
on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network.
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Welcome back to Guardian's Weekly. Jim rosen House back with
you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. As we get
rolling with our final segment of this week's show, we
take a look at the World Series twenty twenty five,
our last live baseball at the major league level until
spring training, and it's the Dodgers in Blue Jays. Did
you have that and on your dance card as they
(39:34):
headed into the playoffs? I think a lot of people
may have, as both teams very highly regarded. Certainly the Dodgers,
I think everyone's pick to not only reach the World Series,
but win the World Series, and they may yet do that.
But look for the Blue Jays as the series got
underway last night to be kind of that thorn in
the side for the Dodgers, as the Blue Jays certainly
(39:56):
carrying a lot of momentum after a thrilling seven game
American League Championship series as they eliminated the Mariners on
that dramatic Game seven thanks to the home run heroics
of George Springer. So a couple of news and notes
on the World Series. Things to keep an eye on
in terms of repeat champions, the Dodgers trying to do
(40:17):
just that after winning the World Series over the Yankees
a year ago. It's been twenty five years since there's
been a repeat champion in Major League Baseball. That's when
the Yankees won three straight nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine
and two thousand and That is the longest repeat champion
drought in the four major men's sports. They've all gone
(40:40):
shorter stretches without a repeat champion the Major League Baseball has,
so the Dodgers trying to put that to bed if
they can. The Dodgers the first reigning World champion to
return even to the World Series since the two thousand
and nine Phillies. They had defeated Tampa Bay in two
thousand and eight and then played the Yankees in law
(41:00):
to New York in two thousand and nine. The Dodgers
with a sweep of the Brewers to get there in
the National League Championship Series, and I mentioned that it
was the Blue Jays with a seven game victory over
Seattle in the American League Championship Series. So what does
that mean in terms of teams that swept a series
(41:22):
and then take on a team that went seven games,
Who does it favor?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Since the best of seven format was instituted for the
League Championship Series, there have only been four other instances
where one of those series resulted in a sweep, and
the other went seven games, And in each of the
prior four every time the team that went seven games
to win their league championship series went on to defeat
(41:49):
the team that swept in their league championship series. So
you would say the Blue Jays have the upper hand
heading into this one. And if you look back at
it in nineteen eighty eight, that classic Dodger team that
nobody thought would do much. They eliminated the Mets in
seven to get to the World Series and then defeated
that juggernaut Oakland Athletics team with the Bash Brothers and
(42:11):
the Big Upsit there, the Dodgers the world champs, thanks
in large part to the Kirk Gibson walk off home run.
In the World Series opener. Two thousand and six, the
Cardinals upended the Tigers. The Cardinals were the team that
needed seven games to get to the World Series. In
the National League Championship Series, who can forget two thousand
and seven, Cleveland thought it would be them that would
(42:33):
take on the Rockies, who had swept the Diamondbacks in
the NLCS, but the Guardians lost a dramatics series to
the Boston Red Sox. And the Red Sox went on
after that seven game American League Championship Series to win
the World Series over Colorado. And the last time it happened, Giants,
they were able to defeat Texas in twenty twelve after
(42:56):
needing a seven game National League Championship Series to get there,
and then they went on and defeated the Texas Rangers
in the World Series. So who knows if it happens again,
A lot of people think it would be an upset
as the Blue Jays certainly the underdog heading into the
World Series this time around. That's going to do it
for this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks
(43:18):
to Brian Matse for helping to put together our show
each and every week until next week. This is Jim
Rosenhause reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly
on the Cleveland Clitic Guardians Radio network.
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to Guardian's Weekly. Jim Rosen House along
with you this weekend from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland.
Guardians in the midst of their offseason and Major League
Baseball just about there. But the Fall Classic World Series
began on Friday night Dodgers and Blue Jays, and we
(01:11):
will have much more on that series in our final
segment of the show coming up a little bit later on.
Also in the second half of our show today, we
will have another look back at one of the great
games of the twenty twenty five season, our weekly feature
here during the offseason leading into our Thanksgiving and Holiday break,
and this week we take a look back at the
(01:33):
near no hitter from Gavin Williams in New York against
the Mets, a day where Williams flirted with history, only
to see it go by the boards with one down
in the ninth inning as he allowed a home run
to Wan Soto that broke up not only the no
hit bit, but the shutout bit as well. But a
great game, just the same for Williams, and we will
(01:54):
relive the tension and energy that day from Gavin Williams
and the rest of the ball club in New York
on a near no hitter that's coming up in the
second half of our show. In just a little bit,
we will hear from Daniel Espino. Keep that name top
of mind as we head into spring training twenty twenty six.
(02:16):
If you follow this team closely, especially the prospects, you
know the name Daniel Espino, one of the top pitching
prospects in all of baseball, who has battled severe shoulder
injuries the past several seasons.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But now he's back.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
On the mound in game action in the Arizona Fall League,
and we'll talk to him about how that has gone.
It has gone very well, and we'll get his thoughts
on that in our next segment, But first we'll take
a time. I'll come back with Daniel Lispino after this
short break on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network, the.
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Post CRIP Assembly press conference.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Ronnie Wiperguis, Michael, you had some trouble putting the gript
together today.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
What went wrong?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know those instructions can be tough, and well you
saw the outcome here.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You said when your wife pulled you and called in
the backup.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
No, I mean the baby needs a cred to sleep,
and so whatever it takes.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
You've got a.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Changing table to put together. Next, it's got a lot
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Speaker 2 (03:36):
Welcome back, It's Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you
as we join you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland.
We won't say these are the hot stove shows yet.
We'll wait for the World Series to be completed before
we do that. But for the Guardians, they are are
off season shows, and throughout this stretch here leading into
Thanksgiving and a break that will take from Thanksgiving through
(03:59):
the first of the year, we're going to really focus
on some of the young prospects who are in action,
first in the Arizona Fall League and then in other
spots as well, and kind of bring you up to
date on their whereabouts, how they're doing, and none more
important potentially for the Guardians than Daniel Espino. The youngster
is now twenty four years of age of former first
(04:21):
round draft pick by the Guardians. That was back in
the twenty nineteen draft. He was a first round pick
twenty fourth overall out of high school in Georgia. He
had been committed to go to LSU. A flamethrower who
really hasn't had much of an opportunity to get on
the mound in the minor leagues. You go back to
that twenty nineteen campaign in between the twenty twenty COVID
(04:45):
season and then a knee issue that held him up
two shoulder surgeries. He was limited to just thirty three
appearances during that time from twenty nineteen through this season,
before he got back on the mound four columb at
the tail end of the season and now he is
throwing in the Arizona Fall League. He has made three starts,
(05:07):
just one inning in each start, as they have brought
him along slowly. But as you'll see and here as
we get going with our interview with Daniel Lispino, he
is so excited with how things have gone, but just
a recap on his career, mentioning he went to high
school in Georgia, but he's from Panama. Moved to Georgia
during his sophomore year of high school, lived with the
(05:29):
coaches at the school that he went to, the Georgia
Premier Academy in Statesboro, Georgia. Felt it would be a
better spot for him to reach that ultimate goal of
making it to the major leagues, and the Guardians saw
that the Indians at the time and made him a
first round draft pick. But again after a pretty quick
rise where he was pitching at double a achron in
(05:50):
twenty twenty two, he had to shut it down after
just four appearances with the Rubber Ducks, and then it
was a knee issue that stopped him. Then then shoulder woes.
Looked like he was on the way back, but last
year another shoulder surgery for him, and then this year
a very slow rate of return, but all calculated by
the medical staff for the Guardians and also that rehab
(06:14):
staff out in Goodyear, Arizona. They did great work in
making sure that Espino was patient, built things up slowly
and now he's back, folks. He had a really strong
outing earlier this week in Arizona in the Arizona Fall
League just the one inning. Again, He's starting games going
one inning. But he struck out the side in his
(06:34):
most recent outing and came close, if not touching one
hundred miles an hour, depending on what radar readings you
look at. So the velocity is back, the excitement is back.
And when we caught up with Daniel earlier this week
after his start for the Arizona Fall League entry in Surprise,
he said he is ecstatic with how things are going.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Hey, Jim, I'm feeling really good, man.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
He's good to actually talk about basse all and you know,
not so much about my health and like all that stuff.
So I enjoying my time, you know, really grateful to
to want have the opportunity to be in the Folague
and the other one.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Just to step on the mount and you know, just pitch.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
That's that's something that that I've been dreaming about, just
to take the ball and just go out there and
have fun and compete.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And we get a chance to see the line scores
of your outings. But but you know what, what makes
you a good picture? And do you feel like things
are coming along the way you would hoped once you
got back on the mount and got healthy.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yes, sir, Like I never had like doubts on it.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
It's just for me more repetition and you know, getting
back into into a routine and back into into competing
and you know, like game situations and stuff like that.
But since I was throwing bullpens, my stuff was was there,
and you know that's that's a big different mentally on
the way that I'm attacking and all that. Just to
(08:06):
have that trust about, you know, just going out there
and knowing that I can throw my four pitches in
any situation.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
That that gives me.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
More to believe in myself more and not to think about, oh,
I don't know how this is going to feel or
something like that.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
So yeah, I will say like.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
It's been more about getting into into a routine and
just going out there and competing and getting that feeling back.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Daniel Espino joining us April of twenty twenty two until
this past August was the time it took for you
to get back on the mount and even on into
September that amount of time away. Take us back to
your start with Columbus or the outing with Columbus, when
you finally got back on the mount. How emotional was
that for you, because it seemed like as much for
(08:55):
you as it was for your teammates too, to see
you out there.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah, you know, I've being surrounded by really great people
from the medical staff in Arizona, in Cleveland, and also
just my teammates. They've been like really really supportive, and
also my family that they were there. So when I
got the the when they told me I was starting,
you know, I was like, okay, Like it's back to
(09:19):
that feeling to to to you know, excitement about pitching
and and and everything that I've gone through.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
It makes it a little bit more, you know, like surreal.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
To me, Like, Okay, I'm actually doing this because it's
been two years that I've been dreaming about just taking
the ball and going out there and competing. But I
was really happy with the way I handled it as
far as like mentally, how prepared I was, knowing all
the preparations that I've done over the last few years,
and knowing that that that that I that I belong there,
(09:51):
you know that that I belong and throwing that was
really exciting just to throw in front of my my
my family and and you know, to to know the
support of throughout organization. It's just you felt that it
was it wasn't just a win for me, but a
win for the organization and to the people around me.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
When you talk to people in the organization, they're always
optimistic that that you would come back and be able
to pitch healthy again. How about for you though, even
as you work through it and were there times where
you thought, man, it's so slow, it's taking such a
long time. Did you ever think that that maybe it
wouldn't come around and that you'd have to think about
(10:30):
something else.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, you know, never, you never, Like the first surgery
happened is just like, okay, I want to get stronger,
I want to be stronger than what it was before.
And you have that approach and then you find out
that you have to get surgery again. And of course,
like there were some tough moments, not only on the
(10:52):
baseball side of it, but also on my personal side
of it, some tough moments, some nights that I couldn't sleep,
and you know, negative tough that that that you know,
as a human being is normal to have. But that's
when when you know the support system that I have
and the people around me, just relying on them and
also just trusting that that theres and birth days are coming.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
And I feel like as a team.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
With the guys in in in in Arizona, with the
rehab group and everybody, it was just like, let's take
it day by day, let's not get too ahead of ourselves.
And that's something that we did and I feel like
that helped me a ton, just to take it day
by day and not no matter how much time I
was I was missing, and just going out there and
(11:41):
and and just taking it a little by little, step
by step like a baby.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
You know, is tough.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's not easy, especially those summer days here in Arizona,
they don't help a lot. But just knowing that where
theres are coming and too to be able to throw
right now, it just puts in perspective like everything that
I've gone through. And you can feel bad about yourself
whenever you find out that you have to be sidelined
(12:08):
or that's that's normal, but it's the way that you
get up and the way that that that you go
out there and the approach that you have and knowing
that also you can make an impact in the people
around you.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You mentioned the group out in Arizona in goodyear, and
you spent probably way more time than you would like
out there over the course of the past couple of years.
But there's been others out there like a Shane Bieber,
Ben Lively and others who have have been on that
rehab front. Does it help having some major leaguers there
and and others who can kind of push you along
(12:41):
and and help you get through the tough days?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Of course, yes, you know it is.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
It shows how dedicate everybody is. And having chained and
having travel staff and behind me and just chairing the
locker room with them, you know, it gave me a.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Better perspective about things and just some.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
Like talks that we had throughout like the rehab process
and all that, it just helped me to understand and
also like to take it day by day.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
And also they.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Never they never doubted about me, you know, like they really.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Show their support.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
They really show like, okay, like you're gonna do it,
You're gonna get through it is there's somebody that's.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Gonna do it. It is you. And they were really.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
They expressed that, like the talks that I had with them,
like they were like Okay, you're gonna You're gonna get
through this. Like if there's somebody that's gonna do it
is you. Obviously hearing that from the side young winner,
and hearing that for from Trevor Stephen, like you start
to believe that. So that's also like really really really
helped me and I really I have a really good
(13:49):
relationship with them and all that. So yeah, it was
easy to have them and learned a lot from them,
not only from the mental side of the game, but
also the competing side of the game. How they approached
their work every single day, how they approach their booking
session and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Daniel Espino joining us uh three starts in in Arizona,
and in today's day and age, good news travels fast,
and it sounded like your start this week was a
good one. Velocity. Obviously, there's so much more to pitching
than velocity, but that's been a big calling card for you.
And when you get into the upper nineties and close
(14:28):
to one hundred, what does that tell you about where
you are and where you could be headed here the
rest of the fall and then on in in the
spring training.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
It just tells me that I'm ready, you know, It's
been pretty consistent to me. I've been in the upper nineties,
pretty consistent in my last starts and also in my book,
in my live sessions and all that. So he just
tells me that I'm ready that that that, you know,
I'm shouldn't be worried about like how my health is
going to be, you know. But I'm just enjoying myself.
(15:01):
I'm just going out there having fun. And that's all
I can ask for. Is not so much about like
what I can do, what do I need to prove
or you know, worry about like twenty twenty six and
the years on and spring training and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Like I'm healthy, you know, and I'm throwing.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So that's all I can ask for, and that's all
I ask God, like to give me the help that
I'm going to take care of the rest. And yeah,
that's kind of like the mentality that I have and
been here obviously, like facing really good talent, talented theaters
and stuff like that. It's a good test for me
to know to only build myself confident that.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
I can do this, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
And maybe it's not a fair question based on what
you just said, but have you thought about about what
your role might be when when you do get to
spring training and they start to figure out where you
land to start the season. Is it as a starting
pitcher again or do you do you make that move
to the bullpen? And has that even been discussed at
this point in time.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I think everybody is just excited right now that that
I'm pitching and that I'm that I'm getting out there
every day, I'm touching the mound and just throwing the
ball and also recovering.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well. I think that's where the focus is right now
for the role.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
I've been starting pitching since I was in high school
and that's something that I've done my whole career. That's
something that I would love to do and to help
the team in that in that in that sense, but
at the end, like I'm just kicking everything in perspective,
just just being healthy, going out there doing my job.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
That's all I can take care of.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, it is great to see you pitching in game
action at UH and I know that's been a long
wait for you and Daniel. Thanks so much for taking
the time today and talking about your progress and continue
good health and success.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Jim easy kid to root for right there. Daniel Espino
one of the really nice young men in this game,
and he has been through a lot. He can hear
it in his voice, but so excited with what's going
on right now and how he's feeling, most importantly, and
he is certainly a name to keep an eye on
in spring training twenty twenty six. Stay with us when
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we come back. We'll visit and hear about the exploits
of another hard thrower, Gavin Williams, who's at the major
league level, had a breakthrough season this year, and there
was no better day for Williams than the day that
he almost threw a no hitter in New York against
the Mets. Will relive that game shortly as we continue
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Welcome back to Guardian's weekly Jimmersenhouse along with you from
Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Great Dabby with us for
baseball talk on the radio. Of course, there is still
Major League Baseball being played as the World Series is
underway in Toronto between the Blue JAYSA and the Dodgers. Meanwhile,
Guardians in postseason mode as they begin to get things
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organized and prepared for the best roster they can put
together for twenty twenty six. And you have to figure
at the top of that starting rotation will be Gavin Williams,
and he is the subject of this week's Game of
the Week. One of the great games of the twenty
twenty five season was certainly the near no hitter by
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Williams back in early August in New York against the Mets,
and we get right to it. It turned out to
be the Gavin Williams Show, Game three of a three
game series a Wednesday afternoon, after the Guardians had taken
the first two games of the series, they were looking
for the sweep of the Mets, and it was Williams
on the mound shutting down the Mets. In the first inning,
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Gavin Williams fastball, sinker, cutter, curve, slider, six six two
fifty twenty six years of age. He fires Lindor Rockets,
went up the middle, knocks the glove off, Williams picks it,
throws and he got Lindor.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh what a play. The two to swing in a
liner caught by Williams back up the middle. Gavin Williams
like a National League All Star Kalie.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Two saves and they were beauties.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And then the offense gave him a lead in the
second inning thanks to David Fry.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
The pitch hit a ton deep left center field.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
This ball is gone.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
David Fry with his sixth.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Home run, a line drive home run to the seats
in left center and Cleveland's got the early one nothing lead.
And for the Guardians, they are playing right now with
as much confidence as they have had all year long.
And if they get David Fry going look out in.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The third with a man on, it was on hell
Martinez extending the Guardian's advantage.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Now the set now the one one swung on hammered
deep left field.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
This ball gone on?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
How Martinez with his tenth home run, three nothing Cleveland,
a laser to left, and Martinez continues to thrive when
facing left handed pitching, and the Guardians have shocked city
field with home runs the last two innings, looking for
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a sweep in Queens.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And then Williams went back to work with a three
run lead.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Two down, nobody on in the Mets third payoff pitch, God,
I'm swinging at a curve in the dirt, Gavin Williams
with his first one two three inning where there wasn't
any deep counts per se. Outside of Soto, fans are
booing early, three nothing Cleveland after three.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Here's his one two pitch swung on and that's line
to left, but Kwan is there and the left fielder
makes the catch. Side retired. Williams still with no hit
baseball through five. We add to the sixth, three nothing Cleveland.
In the sixth inning, the Guardians added on another run
with a big two out hit from Gabrielarius.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Cleveland trying to get four games above five hundred for
the first time in almost two months June eighth, the
last time they were plus four.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Now the two to two.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Swung on trail toward the gap deep rank center. It'll
get down, take a bounce, go up against the wall.
Santana's got a chance to score. Bobbled out there by
Soda heading around to third, going in with a slide
as Czarius and the Guardians laid forth to nothing. Gabriel
Larius Knox in Carlos Santana he found the gap in
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right center, and then Soto when he picked up the
ball after it ricocheted off the wall, bobbled it and
then enabled Santana to score from first with ease, Arius
able to go to third. It is going to be
a generous triple for Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Arius, and then it was Gavin Williams from there on,
as his memorable afternoon in New York continued, Gavin Williams
three strangouts, three walks, but as not giving up a hit.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
The pitch swung on a week bouncer to the second
basement Chinhai hop handled by Rochio. He runs the ball
the first a fifteen feet away underhand flip and the
boo birds keep coming out. Gavin Williams into the motion
and the pitch to Soto swung on, grounded up the middle.
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The shortstop. Arius throws over two down the booze get louder.
Here's pain Alonzo the payoff swinging a jam job role
the third Ramirez has plenty of time, throws across the diamond.
Six no hit innings for Gavin Williams. Gavin Williams rocks
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into his livery here it comes, swung on a week
choppered a second chest time bounce handled. Rokio throws out McNeil.
Seven no hit innings for Gavin Williams, four nothing. Cleveland
eighth is next first round pick out of East Carolina University.
Lets it fly, swinging a little dribbler the first even
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with the bank Santana Club steps on the bag, no
hitter stays intact. Gavin Williams three outs away from putting
his name in the record book.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
So onto the ninth nning, the game went with Gavin
Williams flirting with history. Nobody and the Guardian's bullpen was up.
As Williams faced Francisco Lindor to start the inning.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
The big right hander.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Lets it fly, swinging ANFC got him on a curveball.
Glendor Is strikeout victim number six, two outs away from.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
History, and then it was the always dangerous, especially against Cleveland,
Juan Soto coming to the plate.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Gavin into the motion, the one oh swung on pounded
deep center field, Martinez track wall leaps, HiT's off the wall,
Karen's back toward the infield, and now the umpires are
saying it hit the back wall and Karen back onto
the field. Go home run and hit the banner's eye
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above the orange strength. And Juan Soto does it again
to Cleveland, a solo homer to dead center, his twenty
six no hit or gone shutout, gone.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
It was oh so close to history for Gavin Williams.
He'd get Pete Alonzo to fly out for the second
out in the inning, and then Hunter Gattis came on
to close out an unforgettable ballgame. Now the one to
one swung on skide in the air to center.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
This will do it. Martinez has camped under it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Bolka and the Cleveland Guardians almost got into the history
books along with Gavin Williams. But you know what, their
second sweep in the Big Apple in thirty five years.
Pretty darn good consolation prize, isn't it. Cleveland sweeps the Mets,
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winning today four to one. The only hit a solo
homer des center by Juan Soto off Gavin Williams with
one down in the night. What a performance by Gavin Williams.
What an incredible series by these Cleveland guardians.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And moments after the game, we caught up with the
big right hander out of North Carolina, Gavin Williams, to
talk about his incredible outing. Came close to throwing a
no hitter. It hasn't happened here since nineteen eighty one
for Cleveland. Gavin early on looked like command issues. But man,
you settled in in a hurry. And when did you
feel like you really had your good stuff gone?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (27:09):
I had one tough inning. I was out of the
delivery a little bit. I mean, Carl, BG and Joe
they all came down there and said something to me.
And then after that, I think third fourth inning felt
a garuve.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You had not pitched past seven or seven? Was your
longest outing in your career? You go out for the ninth.
Tell us about the emotions taking them out with a
chance at a no hitter.
Speaker 10 (27:32):
Yeah, I mean, especially when Heggie came out there, I
had I had shields running down my arms. Just giving
nine innings to the guys the bullpen. They've done a
lot for me in the past, so just trying to
help them out as much as possible is a big thing.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
You mentioned Austin Hedges. What did he mean today?
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Man, he's unbelievable that rough ending the second inning or
whatever it was. He came out there, told me literally
told me pick up the body language that he didn't
want to see it again. And I mean he helped
me through the whole day. So props with him. And
you kept going after allowing the home run. What was
that like to try and keep going after something like
that happens on such a potentially historic day. Yeah, I
(28:10):
mean Sota, he's good. Uh, I got him a couple
of times, and I guess he knew it was coming,
so uh, put a good swing on it. I mean,
just trying to finish the games and none of the
bullpen guys come out there, but it didn't work out
that way.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, having great going today. Thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Then the following day, his catcher on that Wednesday afternoon
was Austin Hedges, who said a chance for a no
hitter is just as exciting for the catcher as it
is for the man on the mound.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Yeah, I mean, uh, you know when you're when you're
back there catching you just there's a lot of homework
that goes on and you know, you want to see
your your your boy on the mound have as much
success as possible and anytime you can, you know, contribute
to you know, I mean it's something like a no
hitter and do you know something that goes down in
history that you know, you get to have forever. It's
(28:59):
just one of those things that I think all catchers, uh,
they take a lot of pride in that, and uh,
you know it's pretty cool to get close.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Naturally, he gave you a lot of credit, especially so
early in the game. He said, you came out and
had a really important mound visit, and what did you
tell him that maybe you saw that that wasn't good
early on that he was able to clean up.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
I mean, I don't know anything about pitching mechanics or
how to throw a ball like that, So everything I
say is just more like psychological. Just just challenge him
to respond, to respond to how it's going right now
in a you know, in a in a positive way,
because you know, we were losing some some of our
command and I just wanted him to be able to, uh,
(29:38):
you know, move on to the next pitch and uh,
you know, not look not look frustrated, and keep his
keep his demeanor and keep his confidence out there.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
What was the ninth inning like? Going out to the
going out to the field for the ninth when he
has that opportunity.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
For you, it's a very nerve wracking, exciting, you know.
Just uh I've never never, never been a part of
a no hitter going into the ninth before, so it
was pretty cool. Uh, you know, especially in a place
like New York and you know we're about to go
face Lindor Soto and Alonzo, so uh, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It was.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
It was more exciting than anything, but uh, pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Any regrets at all how the ninth inning played out
strategy wise or anything like that, or do you feel
like he got beat with his best stuff?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:26):
I feel like he got beat with his best stuff.
I mean, hindsight's always twenty twenty, you know, whether it's
a almost no hitter or just any game. I'm always
second guessing myself and if anything doesn't go the way
that we want it to, just trying to be more
prepared for for the next time. You know, you know,
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learning from from your failures is you know, one of
the biggest things in in game calling. So uh, you know,
definitely learn some things. But once again, like you got
to go out there and make a decision and about
eight seconds and in usually leaning on your pitcher's strength.
And you know, I thought Gavin made a good pitch
and Soda made a better swig.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Also, manager Steven Vogue talked to Hammy about the near
historic day in New York.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
First off, when did you start thinking no hitter watching
Gavin Williams or did you Oh?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I was thinking about it the whole time. I thought,
you know, you're always paid attention to that. I have
my little not superstitions, but stitions, and we hadn't given
up a hit. And it really doesn't start to feel
real until you get kind of into the fifth and sixth.
You know, you've gone two times through the order. Here
comes the third and so when he kept rattling up
outs right on the bouts, I'm staring at that pitch
count wishing it could go down and go back in
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time and take a few pitches away from the first
few innings. But you're thinking about it the whole time.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And it was.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
It was a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
How about the fact you had nobody warming up at
any point in that game, including going into the ninth inning.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
How come well one as a manager who had never
been through a game like that before.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't know the rules.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I don't know if I'm allowed to talk to Carl,
I don't know if I'm allowed to talk to alb
I don't know if I'm allowed to even think about
it out loud. So I didn't say a word to
anybody the whole game. I was just sitting there stewing.
I'm like, well, they're not talking to me. I'm not
talking to them. We're just gonna let this thing ride.
And then it became apparent as soon as we scored
that fourth run. It bought us a little more cushion
because then I didn't have to think about how do
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we win the game at any point until they scored
a runner, until they got two runners on, I didn't
have to think about how are we going to win
this game. I could only think about Gavin and trying
to get this no hitter. And so the credit the
offense for continuing to add on because that allowed me
a little bit of mind space.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Now, there was one of the memorable afternoons of baseball
for the Guardians in twenty twenty five, the near no
hitter or Gavin Williams against the Mets in early August.
Stay with us, We'll I have some final thoughts after
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Welcome back to Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhouse back with you
from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. As we get rolling
with our final segment of this week's show, we take
a look at the World Series twenty twenty five, our
last live baseball at the major league level until spring training,
and it's the Dodgers in blue. Did you have that
on your dance card as they've headed into the playoffs?
(34:04):
I think a lot of people may have, as both
teams very highly regarded. Certainly the Dodgers, I think everyone's
pick to not only reach the World Series, but win
the World Series, and they may yet do that. But
look for the Blue Jays as the series got underway
last night to be kind of that born in the
side for the Dodgers, as the Blue Jays certainly carrying
(34:25):
a lot of momentum after a thrilling seven game American
League Championship series as they eliminated the Mariners on that
dramatic Game seven thanks to the home run heroics of
George Springer. So a couple of news and notes on
the World Series things to keep an eye on in
terms of repeat champions, the Dodgers trying to do just
(34:46):
that after winning the World Series over the Yankees a
year ago, it's been twenty five years since there's been
a repeat champion in Major League Baseball. That's when the
Yankees won three straight nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine and
two thousand and That is the longest repeat champion drought
in the four major men's sports. They've all gone shorter
(35:09):
stretches without a repeat champion the Major League Baseball has,
so the Dodgers trying to put that to bed if
they can. The Dodgers the first reigning World champion to
return even to the World Series since the two thousand
and nine Phillies. They had defeated Tampa Bay in two
thousand and eight and then played the Yankees and lost
to New York in two thousand and nine. The Dodgers
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with a sweep of the Brewers to get there in
the National League Championship Series. And I mentioned that it
was the Blue Jays with a seven game victory over
Seattle in the American League Championship Series. So what does
that mean in terms of teams that swept a series
and then take on a team that went seven games.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Who does it favor? Well?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Since the best of seven format was instituted for the
League Championship Series, there have only been four other instances
where one of those series resulted in a sweep and
the other went seven games, And in each of the
prior four, every time the team that went seven games
to win their league championship series went on to defeat
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the team that swept in their league championship series. So
you would say the Blue Jays have the upper hand
heading into this one. And if you look back at
it nineteen eighty eight, that classic Dodger team then nobody
thought would do much. They eliminated the Mets in seven
to get to the World Series and then defeated that
juggernaut Oakland Athletics team with the Bash Brothers and the
(36:40):
Big Upsit there, the Dodgers the world champs, thanks in
large part to the Kirk Gibson walk off home run.
In the World Series opener two thousand and six, the
Cardinals upended the Tigers. The Cardinals were the team that
needed seven games to get to the World Series. In
the National League Championship Series, who can forget two thousand
and seven Cleveland, it would be them that would take
(37:02):
on the Rockies, who had swept the Diamondbacks in the NLCS,
But the Guardians lost a dramatics series to the Boston
Red Sox, and the Red Sox went on after that
seven game American League Championship Series to win the World
Series over Colorado. And the last time it happened, Giants,
they were able to defeat Texas in twenty twelve after
(37:24):
needing a seven game National League Championship Series to get there,
and then they went on and defeated the Texas Rangers
in the World Series. So who knows if it happens again,
A lot of people think it would be an upset
as the Blue Jays certainly the underdog heading into the
World Series this time around. That's going to do it
for this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks
(37:47):
to Brian Motse for helping to put together our show
each and every week until next week. This is Jim
Rosenhaus reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly
on the Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network.
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Welcome back to Guardian's Weekly. Jim rosen House back with
you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. As we get
rolling with our final segment of this week's show, we
take a look at the World Series twenty twenty five,
our last live baseball at the major league level until
spring training, and it's the Dodgers in Blue Jays. Did
you have that and on your dance card as they
(39:34):
headed into the playoffs? I think a lot of people
may have, as both teams very highly regarded. Certainly the Dodgers,
I think everyone's pick to not only reach the World Series,
but win the World Series, and they may yet do that.
But look for the Blue Jays as the series got
underway last night to be kind of that thorn in
the side for the Dodgers, as the Blue Jays certainly
(39:56):
carrying a lot of momentum after a thrilling seven game
American League Championship series as they eliminated the Mariners on
that dramatic Game seven thanks to the home run heroics
of George Springer. So a couple of news and notes
on the World Series. Things to keep an eye on
in terms of repeat champions, the Dodgers trying to do
(40:17):
just that after winning the World Series over the Yankees
a year ago. It's been twenty five years since there's
been a repeat champion in Major League Baseball. That's when
the Yankees won three straight nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine
and two thousand and That is the longest repeat champion
drought in the four major men's sports. They've all gone
(40:40):
shorter stretches without a repeat champion the Major League Baseball has,
so the Dodgers trying to put that to bed if
they can. The Dodgers the first reigning World champion to
return even to the World Series since the two thousand
and nine Phillies. They had defeated Tampa Bay in two
thousand and eight and then played the Yankees in law
(41:00):
to New York in two thousand and nine. The Dodgers
with a sweep of the Brewers to get there in
the National League Championship Series, and I mentioned that it
was the Blue Jays with a seven game victory over
Seattle in the American League Championship Series. So what does
that mean in terms of teams that swept a series
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and then take on a team that went seven games,
Who does it favor?
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Since the best of seven format was instituted for the
League Championship Series, there have only been four other instances
where one of those series resulted in a sweep, and
the other went seven games, And in each of the
prior four every time the team that went seven games
to win their league championship series went on to defeat
(41:49):
the team that swept in their league championship series. So
you would say the Blue Jays have the upper hand
heading into this one. And if you look back at
it in nineteen eighty eight, that classic Dodger team that
nobody thought would do much. They eliminated the Mets in
seven to get to the World Series and then defeated
that juggernaut Oakland Athletics team with the Bash Brothers and
(42:11):
the Big Upsit there, the Dodgers the world champs, thanks
in large part to the Kirk Gibson walk off home run.
In the World Series opener. Two thousand and six, the
Cardinals upended the Tigers. The Cardinals were the team that
needed seven games to get to the World Series. In
the National League Championship Series, who can forget two thousand
and seven, Cleveland thought it would be them that would
(42:33):
take on the Rockies, who had swept the Diamondbacks in
the NLCS, but the Guardians lost a dramatics series to
the Boston Red Sox. And the Red Sox went on
after that seven game American League Championship Series to win
the World Series over Colorado. And the last time it happened, Giants,
they were able to defeat Texas in twenty twelve after
(42:56):
needing a seven game National League Championship Series to get there,
and then they went on and defeated the Texas Rangers
in the World Series. So who knows if it happens again,
A lot of people think it would be an upset
as the Blue Jays certainly the underdog heading into the
World Series this time around. That's going to do it
for this week's edition of Guardians Weekly. As always, thanks
(43:18):
to Brian Matse for helping to put together our show
each and every week until next week. This is Jim
Rosenhause reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly
on the Cleveland Clitic Guardians Radio network.
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